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Speaker 1: Here we go. Look out below.

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Speaker 2: It's day two of life without Mike Tomlin, and I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna give you my top three picks to replace coach

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Speaker 2: even be considering, very likely won't interview, because it is

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Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski. He recently deposed head coach of the Cleveland Bronx.

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Speaker 2: He's young, he's only forty three. He's an ahead of

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Speaker 2: the curve offensive mind. He fits in perfectly with what

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Speaker 2: the league is, which is score more, score faster.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't do that at Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Because the owner kept giving him disastrous level interference, like

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Speaker 2: signing Deshaun Watson. But keep this in mind. He beat

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Speaker 2: the Steelers five times in a row at Cleveland, and

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Speaker 2: it was with quarterbacks like dtr and Jamis and this

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Speaker 2: year shedor Sanders. If you want to guy to come

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Speaker 2: in and do well when the Steelers don't cut no quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Bringing a guy who won with those bumps against the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: He's a two time Coach of the Year, which Tom

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Speaker 2: wind never won. So to me, he's the perfect pick

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Speaker 2: and will not even be considered. My number two pick

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Speaker 2: might be considered Clinton Kobiak, the offensive coordinate for Seattle,

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Speaker 2: good offensive mind, and he fits what the league is,

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Speaker 2: score more, score faster. Number three is another guy they

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Speaker 2: won't even consider. It's Mike McDaniel, the recently the post

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Speaker 2: head coach at Miami and analytics geek.

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Speaker 1: Heck, just a geek period, look at him, and.

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Speaker 2: Hiring McDaniel would drive everybody crazy. And he vapes during games.

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Speaker 2: That is just so Pittsburgh. Bring in the guy who

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Speaker 2: vapes during games. Just don't high anybody that's defense first.

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Speaker 2: But I think that's exactly what they're gonna do, whether

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Speaker 2: it's Mint or Shula. Shula right now is the betting

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Speaker 2: favorite in Vegas. I think those, to my mind, are

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Speaker 2: the two front runners.

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Speaker 1: It's just not a guy i'd higher.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, of course i'd love to see Freeman from

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame or Signetti from Indiana, but it's unrealistic because

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Speaker 2: the Steelers' job is just not a great job. Indiana

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Speaker 2: and Notre Dame are much better jobs right now. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you'd like to think that the job comes with the

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Speaker 2: long term job security that Noel Kwer and Tomlin got,

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Speaker 2: but all three of those coaches won relatively quickly. In

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Speaker 2: their tenures, which made it a lot easier to hold

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Speaker 2: on to one. So those are my three picks. The

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Speaker 2: fanskeet no chance, Kobiak a slight chance, Mike McDaniel even

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Speaker 2: less than no chance. And just to reiterate, if you

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Speaker 2: don't believe, this is a crap job that nobody should want.

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Speaker 2: Who's the quarterback going to be next year? They got

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Speaker 2: no quarterback. The New York Giants job is a better

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Speaker 2: job than the Steelers' job, if only because they got

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Speaker 2: Jackson Darts. This is Mark Mannen. Yeah, they'll probably hire

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Speaker 2: a defensive minded coach. But Art Rooney, if you're listening,

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Speaker 2: and I think you probably are, Mike tom Win listened

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Speaker 2: yesterday when I told him, if you had any pride

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Speaker 2: even announce should quit, and five minutes later he did.

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Speaker 2: I'm a super genius and I call the shots around here.

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Speaker 2: So Art, I'd like to remind you there are two

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Speaker 2: pass you can go by, but in the long run,

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Speaker 2: there's still time to change the road you're on. Joining

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Speaker 2: me now is Tommy who was looking at his phone,

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Speaker 2: Because good thing, we were looking at the phone yesterday

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Speaker 2: did tom would have quit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was right there. You said you got a

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Speaker 1: and then it just exploded all over social media. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But but yeah, uh so my choices there, Stefanski, Kubiak,

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Speaker 2: and McDaniel. Who were your three picks to replace Tom, Well,

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Speaker 2: not your predictions, but who you would look at.

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Speaker 1: I like your choices. I just eliminate McDaniel and Stefanski

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Speaker 1: because I think they're going to do the traditional you know,

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Speaker 1: I rule those guys out. But I like the offensive mine.

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Speaker 1: I'll take Kubiak as one. I like this Davis Web guy.

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Speaker 1: He's thirty years old. He's really young, but he's got

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Speaker 1: a lot of juice to him. Right now. That's too young.

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Speaker 2: That's too young for an old locker room that's going

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Speaker 2: get me wrong, that doesn't point negatively at Davis Web.

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Speaker 1: It points negatively at that locker. How much of that

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Speaker 2: Where are they gonna go, Tom, Where's t J. Watt

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Speaker 1: I'm saying from the Steeler side of things, though, just

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Speaker 2: Which is gonna I mean them trying to win this

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Speaker 2: year to the detriment of laying framework to build a

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Speaker 2: true contender years from now will be so typically rooney

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Speaker 2: and be their undoing.

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Speaker 1: They're continued undoing. And then if I had to go

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Speaker 1: with the third choice, I'll go with the defensive guy,

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Speaker 1: even though I don't want one. I'll go with Jesse

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Speaker 1: Mintor over Chris Shula. The Shula one scares the hell

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Speaker 1: out of me. Mark. First of all, the Rams defense,

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Speaker 1: I know, the Rams defense is what's gonna hold them

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Speaker 1: back if they don't win the Super Bowl this year.

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Speaker 2: Let me let me tell you him working under McVeigh

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Speaker 2: probably appeals to them because he's the young coach who

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Speaker 2: who got a team good right away and won a

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl away.

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Speaker 1: Okay, But why wouldn't you hire the guy who's the

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Speaker 1: Rams offensive coordinator who I'm looking up right now frantically,

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Speaker 1: Why won't you hire their passing game coordinator? If you're

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Speaker 2: If you're looking for an argument, you've come to the

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Speaker 2: wrong place. I think they need to hire.

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Speaker 1: Mike Laflour is the offensive coordinator? Well, that's brother not not.

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Speaker 2: What if Matt Lafleur gets let go by Green Bay,

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Speaker 2: because that's up in the here. I definitely it's if

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Speaker 2: he's available, he's by far my first choice. And bringing

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Speaker 1: Stefanski is Lafleur. And who's the last one you need? McDaniel?

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Speaker 1: Those three guys, I would love any of those three guys.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think they're going to go with a

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Speaker 1: I don't think they go with a recycled person. They

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't look at him at all. He was a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, at least with McDaniel and Stefanski, you have some

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Speaker 2: Well, as we know, Art wants to do what dad

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Speaker 2: and granddad did. And the last time the Steelers hired

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Speaker 2: a head coach with prior NFL head coaching experience was

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Speaker 2: Buddy Parker in nineteen fifty seven. And I'm not you're laughing.

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Speaker 2: I'm laughing, but I'm not joking. Yeah, So those are

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Speaker 2: my choices. We've heard your choices. Now let's predict who

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Speaker 1: They're gonna get Shula. I think it's gonna be Chris Shula.

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Speaker 1: He just fits everything. He's a little older, like he's

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Speaker 1: it's all screaming towards Chris schuch.

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Speaker 2: He's a little older by the definition of the Steelers'

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Speaker 2: previous hires, but not by NFL standards.

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Speaker 1: Why do I feel like to the name Shula matters

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Speaker 1: too in this equation? Don't matter? To me, no, but

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Speaker 1: do you know what I'm saying though, And it shouldn't

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Speaker 1: But like, I don't know, I just feel like they

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Speaker 1: there's a huge legacy behind our coach. Do you agree

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Speaker 2: Notion that it's not a good job, that a coach

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Speaker 2: it's an old roster, it's not a good job, and

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Speaker 1: Actually I have a trifect a little bit later that

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Speaker 1: little bit of a spoiler alert there. The defense will

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Speaker 1: be the selling point, right, but the defense ain't that

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Speaker 1: good and it's aging and it's really expensive now to

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Speaker 1: play Devil's advocation for me, Chris.

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Speaker 2: Shula, I mean, how much you're Cam Hayward and TJ.

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Speaker 2: Watt gonna buy in it? Ye, that's a huge thing.

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Speaker 1: Devil's advocate, though, if you go with an offensive minded

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Speaker 1: to him like, hey, we have a blank canvas. Go

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Speaker 1: out and find your guy. Now, like the person that

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Speaker 1: because they're gonna hire Shula the defensive it would be ideal.

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Speaker 2: I mean to me, i'd hi Stefanski, but I would

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Speaker 1: I think Kubiak or Shula is probably the way that

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Speaker 1: it would go because Kubiak fits the mold. Have never

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Speaker 1: been a head coach before? Which job would you rather have?

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Speaker 1: John Treh Steelers. I was thinking about this a lot.

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Speaker 1: That's a tough one, even beyond Jackson Dart, because I

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Speaker 1: Like you look at the Giants roster. They have Malik Neighbors,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they tend to fire coaches quicker than

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Speaker 2: the Steelers, but again, I'm not so sure Art. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think they're gonna do things the same way, which

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Speaker 2: is tragic because Tom and leaving should be the excuse

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Speaker 2: to pull the trigger on a reshuffling of organizational priorities.

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Speaker 2: Should It should just be a total reset for the

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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna get at least three four years,

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Speaker 2: but maybe not longer than that. The Giants, dude, tend

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Speaker 2: to pull I mean, they've stunk for how long? Right, Eli,

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Speaker 2: I pulled the trigger too pretty quick if I were them,

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Speaker 2: then again, I forget who said this. Somebody on TV

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Speaker 2: today said, whatever happened to letting coaches settled in and

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Speaker 2: see what they really can do? And I agree with that,

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Speaker 1: The NFL coaches and quarterbacks. You know, that just doesn't

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Speaker 2: It seems surreal that Tom would quit, especially right in

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Speaker 2: So I thought that at one time, but having thought it,

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Speaker 1: It's hard to believe though that you know the new

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Speaker 1: That might lead to Arch if you go if you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Arch, Arch would pull an Eli, Uncle Eli and

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Speaker 1: because Mike Tomlin's gone, but there's no doubt in my

433
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Speaker 1: mind that he got cold feet as far as going

434
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Speaker 1: back into that draft for a quarterback after what happened

435
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Speaker 1: to Kenny Pickett. You can't get that cold feet because

436
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Speaker 1: you might swing and miss after going, you know, four

437
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,159
Speaker 1: win season on that first round quarterback. You gotta keep

438
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,440
Speaker 1: taking bites at it though, keep going for that quarterback.

439
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 1: Eventually you're gonna get them.

440
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Speaker 2: The total cynic in meet Tom Wonders. Did Tom Leak

441
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,719
Speaker 2: get out just in time before he had a losing season?

442
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,879
Speaker 2: Did he see one coming last year? And he won

443
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 2: to maintain the streak If he never coaches again, I'll admit,

444
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 2: if he never coaches again, nineteen NFL season without a

445
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,119
Speaker 2: losing record will become more impressive as time goes on.

446
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Speaker 1: You can kind of appreciate it more too. As he's

447
00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 1: done now, you know what I mean, It's almost like

448
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Speaker 1: he's not at hostage and like you're seven going on

449
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Speaker 1: eight on.

450
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Speaker 2: Nine straight, I said today on the DV morning show,

451
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,479
Speaker 2: where I was right and everybody else was wrong. Uh,

452
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,639
Speaker 2: that streak belongs to Ben. It started before Tom and

453
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Speaker 2: with Ben, and he, to me, is more responsible.

454
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Speaker 1: I tend to give the credit to the player and

455
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 1: all those kind of debates, like you do Brady Belichick,

456
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Speaker 1: Who's response? It's Brady, you know what I mean? Like,

457
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 1: I always lean to the guy that's on the field

458
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Speaker 1: in that plus, I like Ben although he's almost certainly

459
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Speaker 1: not listening.

460
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Speaker 2: Because when Liverpool played the exhibition game here a couple

461
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Speaker 2: is it now?

462
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 1: Two summers? Yeah, before the championship season.

463
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Speaker 2: I saw Ben going to the elevator afterwards and he goes,

464
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Speaker 2: I didn't know you liked soccer, And I said, why not?

465
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Speaker 1: Just tell me you've never listened to my show. My god. Uh,

466
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Speaker 1: the only time he's listened is when you've interviewed him.

467
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Speaker 2: Well, you know what I've been saying lately, Tom, There's

468
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,640
Speaker 2: never been a better time to not listen. Maybe Ben

469
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 2: was ahead of the curve. Tom, you need to start

470
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Speaker 2: watching heated rivalry. Yeah, we should watch it together.

471
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Speaker 1: We need we show that.

472
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Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, I mean it that way simultaneously correct well,

473
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 2: well put yeah, yeah, because you're not my type. But

474
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Speaker 2: but uh now i'd watch it with Zach Effrin and

475
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 2: I'd say, hey, Zach inspired it all.

476
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: But but yeah, I you know, you know what's funny.

477
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Speaker 1: I was talking to a.

478
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Speaker 2: Friend of mine about watching Heated Rivalry right, and he says,

479
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Speaker 2: doesn't that make you feel uncomfortable? And I go, no,

480
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 2: it's no reason it should make anybody feel uncomfortable. But

481
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 2: I also watched every episode of the HBO prison drama OZ.

482
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 2: This is small potatoes. That does make you feel uncomfortable?

483
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 2: What's happening in Oz?

484
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Speaker 1: And not that much? One O five ninety X.

485
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Speaker 2: It's the Woody Show way better than NTR weeked mornings.

486
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Speaker 1: At six on the x Mark Mare Game Show on

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Speaker 1: one five nine d X.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I'm available for watch parties for the

489
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Speaker 2: next the NFL weekends because I want all the money

490
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 2: I can get before I quit and then die. So

491
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Speaker 2: email super Genius at WXDX dot com. I'm getna, sup.

492
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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, Tom, what should I do? Should I

493
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Speaker 2: host a watch party here for the Super Bowl or

494
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Speaker 2: go to Vegas for the Super Bowl?

495
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Speaker 1: You went to Vegas. Wasn't the Bucks and Chiefs Vegas

496
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Speaker 1: for two Super Bowls?

497
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Speaker 2: I was at the COVID right back from COVID when

498
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Speaker 2: the Bucks beat the Chiefs. I bet way too much

499
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Speaker 2: money on the Chiefs and I went there a long

500
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Speaker 2: time ago. What was the Super Bowl, Phil.

501
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Speaker 1: Rivers one drew Brees Pyton Manning And that was the

502
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Speaker 1: one McAfee punted right. Yeah, I went in the middle

503
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Speaker 1: of the Steelers winning. Yeah, I went to that one.

504
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Speaker 2: You can't beat Vegas for the Super Bowl, and you

505
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 2: can't beat Vegas for March Madness either, especially the opening weekend.

506
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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, and I'm not even a

507
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Speaker 2: college basketball or March Madness fan, but just the buzz

508
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 2: out there, like in the sports books and sports bars,

509
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Speaker 2: is very good.

510
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Speaker 1: You booked these next couple of rounds for watch parties

511
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Speaker 1: that could pay for a decent amount of your Vegas

512
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Speaker 1: trip right to go to the Super Bowl. But I'm

513
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 1: not too concerned about that. But like, hey, I'm just

514
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: saying it helps.

515
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Speaker 2: I like, I like doing the local watch party for

516
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Speaker 2: the Super Plus I'm going to Vegas for Penguins in

517
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 2: March and Foreigner and Sammy Hagar and I'm gonna go.

518
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Speaker 2: You know what, I'm convincing myself that every time Rod

519
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 2: Stewart plays it might be the last time. I went

520
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 2: to Baltimore a couple months back to see him. But

521
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Speaker 2: now he's doing the Vegas residency again, so going on

522
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Speaker 2: different two shows. Plus, if you go to the last

523
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Speaker 2: show of the run, which one of the shows I'm

524
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Speaker 2: going to is in I think it's May or maybe June,

525
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 2: he goes way back into the songbook, Like one time

526
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Speaker 2: I cut him on the last show of a run

527
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Speaker 2: and he played arguably my three favorite songs consecutively. He

528
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Speaker 2: played Angel, Every Picture tells the story afore I'm losing you, Temptations, Cover,

529
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Speaker 2: and Stay with Me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got a lot of good Vegas coming up

531
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Speaker 1: on the horizon. Maybe you should stay home and make

532
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Speaker 1: money to watch the super Bowl. That sounds great. I

533
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: need to just quit and spend all the money I

534
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: already have.

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Speaker 2: You know, Tom I'm curious to hear what the players

536
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Speaker 2: have to say about Tomlin's departure. You had Nitwick's Vax Creepo,

537
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, and by the way, he's leaving right on time.

538
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 2: As far as I'm concerned he salvaged his reputation. He

539
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 2: finished year with the winning season, and that'll probably be

540
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 2: his last year because I can't imagine him playing anywhere else.

541
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Speaker 2: And like Art the Second said today, Aaron came here

542
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 2: specifically to play with Tomlin, so he won't be back.

543
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: And again, I don't think he played well enough to

544
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Speaker 2: merit going anywhere else. He might do that midseason replacement

545
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 2: thing like Phil Rivers did this year, but I'm not

546
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Speaker 2: even sure about that. But he was talking about the

547
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 2: experts on Twitter and how the league has covered, et cetera.

548
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 2: You've been here about fifteen minutes, you Mark, But the

549
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: players are going to make Tomin into the victim of martyr.

550
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 2: But they should look in the mirror, Tom because the

551
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 2: players let don Mike Tomlin. All the old guys played

552
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 2: like old guys except Cam. The only quote I've seen

553
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Speaker 2: have you seen any quotes? I saw john who called

554
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 2: Tom Win a fall guy, but that's Lee Majors.

555
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: I did see Johnny Smith spoke. I haven't seen any

556
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Speaker 1: other current players speak, though I've heard some reporting about

557
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: like people said they were shocked. Obviously, one thing.

558
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Speaker 2: That leads me to think Tomlin knew and certain people

559
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: did that he was gonna quit even before that game,

560
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 2: Rogers sounded in retrospect. When he defended him as vociferously

561
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Speaker 2: as he did, Rogers sounded like he either knew or suspected.

562
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Speaker 1: I don't know if we'll ever hear from Rogers. He'll

563
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Speaker 1: be a long time until we hear from Rogers again.

564
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Speaker 1: I guess he's gonna have to announce his retirement or

565
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Speaker 1: what he's gonna do here. Eventually, there's no chance he

566
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Speaker 1: comes back with the Steelers. Rooney basically said that today.

567
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Speaker 1: Mark he basically came out and it's like, Yeah, Rogers

568
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Speaker 1: was here pretty much because of Mike, So I would

569
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Speaker 1: probably rule out seeing Aaron Rodgers come back for another

570
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Speaker 1: season in Pittsburgh.

571
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Speaker 2: So we haven't heard from many players except for John

572
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: Who and that was kind of vanilla and predictable and.

573
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Speaker 1: Weird, Like why Johnny Smith, the guy's been there for

574
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Speaker 1: one year.

575
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Speaker 2: I think he bumped into somebody, like a media guy

576
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Speaker 2: got him. Yeah, that's kind of how it read to me.

577
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 2: But never mind the players. What will the fans be

578
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: like if the Steelers do go five and twelve or whatever,

579
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: because there will be x amount who say I told

580
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: you so, Greenberg.

581
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Speaker 1: The TV guys will say I told you so.

582
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 2: But again, I think going five and twelve could be

583
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: the best thing for the franchise, you know, just I

584
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 2: thought prefers say three and three and fourteen, because then

585
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 2: you leave no dot.

586
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Speaker 1: You're getting what caught the first pick this year. You know,

587
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: the Vegas Raiders had won three wins. I think they

588
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Speaker 1: were three and fourteen, three and fourteen or two and

589
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Speaker 1: fifteen got the first win this year, the first There

590
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Speaker 1: you go, I want to make sure of getting the

591
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Speaker 1: first pick, you.

592
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Speaker 2: Know, I feel like that has always been by the

593
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 2: by the way, if they would, you know, tank to

594
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Speaker 2: get Arch, like the Penguins tank to get Lemieux, I'd

595
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 2: be okay with that. I mean, I don't believe or

596
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 2: even know about Arch like I believed and knew back

597
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: then about marrying. Yeah, but let me tell you what.

598
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: Drafting a man, and it seems like the way to bet.

599
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: And every time I've seen him, he plays, you know,

600
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: at least pretty good. He's still a young kid.

601
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Speaker 1: He's getting better. Yeah. Yeah. And here's the thing.

602
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 2: He books the part and he's a license perfect money.

603
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 2: Look at the ads he's doing. Yeah, no question, about it,

604
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: and he's got the ability to run too. Like in

605
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 2: the modern day age of the NFL, he could put

606
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: up one hundred yards on you just like that as

607
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 2: the quarterback. How the fans would handle going like five

608
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Speaker 2: and twelve. I feel like a lot of people feel

609
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Speaker 2: like there's this fear that they would turn on the

610
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Speaker 2: franchise if they had one year like that and the

611
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: stadium was start to come out to I don't buy

612
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 2: that at all. I think a lot of fans would

613
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: understand that a hard reset like that could do some good.

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00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: Now I don't.

615
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: If you don't, you don't know. I think in the moment,

616
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: they're going to be angry. I think the crowded acressure

617
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 2: will be angry because we paid good money and I've

618
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 2: been a season ticket holder for forty years.

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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. It is a pretty dumb fan base,

620
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Speaker 1: isn't it. So Yeah, it's a pretty old fan base.

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Speaker 1: They're pretty spoiled fan base. It is a very spoiled

622
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Speaker 1: fan and the young fans are the dumbest. Hey there

623
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: you they have no perspective, maybe too much effing perspective.

624
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: Is as David Saint Hubbins said, well, most of those

625
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: young fans have only had one coach in their entire life.

626
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Speaker 1: They've only ever known the Steelers as Mike Tomlin Pittsburgh Steeler,

627
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,959
Speaker 1: Vegas three and fourteen. Tom, that's the I'm shooting four

628
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Speaker 1: for the Steelers. I want to I want to make

629
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Speaker 1: sure to get Arch. You want to make sure or

630
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Speaker 1: to just have Arch tell us now because you don't

631
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Speaker 1: think he's coming here, that's right, Frank, one oh five

632
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Speaker 1: nine the X from the one oh five nine the

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Speaker 1: ex Weather Center F one tom Uh. Here's an interesting

634
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: factoid from Frank.

635
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: Michael Smith, who's a big social media guy does some

636
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: stuff for the athletic. Only one of the steelers last

637
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: twelve first round draft picks has gotten a second contract

638
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: with the team.

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00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: One out of twelve.

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00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: Regarding the Steelers first round picks, and that's on Tomlin

641
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: because he got autonomy, you know, pretty much with the job.

642
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: But if he didn't or if he got x amount

643
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: of it he had, and uh, that shows that he

644
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: couldn't draft or develop.

645
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy failed on so many levels that

646
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: people are just ignoring. Yeah, and you just can't build

647
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: yourself up to a contender of a team in the

648
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: NFL without having success through the draft. I know that

649
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: it's the era of free agency and you can really

650
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: supplement your roster that way and make big trades to

651
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: get you over the hump. But if you don't have

652
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: a strong nucleus mark, if you're not you know, building

653
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: from the foundation out. I still am a big believer

654
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: in that. Like you look at some of the other

655
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: teams around this league that are go like, yeah, I

656
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: know the Rams traded for Matthew Stafford, but they have

657
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: built that defensive, They've built a lot of the rest

658
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: of the team up through the draft. It's still so

659
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: valuable for them to not hand out a second contract.

660
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: What was it, only one of one of the last

661
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: twelve first from second contract. It's incredible.

662
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: It's so bad, And I bet Broderick Jones doesn't unless

663
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 2: they're not gonna pick it up. I don't think they

664
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Speaker 2: won't pick up the option they if he comes back

665
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: for less, but they fed him. Broderick Jones is an

666
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: example of how they don't know how to draft and

667
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 2: develop and how they always don't plan past the next game,

668
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: that there's no big picture thinking. You trade it up

669
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: to get this guy to be your franchise left tackle,

670
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: and then you put him the right tackle because you

671
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: wanted to give veteran respect to that Dan Moore junior

672
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: who was crap, who statistically was the worst left tackle

673
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: in football what the last two years, his first year

674
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: with Tennessee and his final year with the Steelers, And

675
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: then you made Jones the swing tackle. And then when

676
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 2: you finally put him at left tackle, you wondered why

677
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 2: it wasn't as good as you'd hope because you fed him. Now,

678
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, every player succeeds and feels on

679
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: his own merits, but it's up to the coaches to

680
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: put the player in a position to succeed, and the

681
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: Steelers coaches most decidedly did not do that with Broderick Jones.

682
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: It very sneaky, like one of Tomlin's biggest blunders. Is

683
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: there is the Dan Moore Broderick Jones decision to just

684
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: keep riding with Dan Moore instead of going with the

685
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: development of your stud tackle that you traded up to get.

686
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: Is he someone that could benefit though from a coaching change,

687
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: a new ideas in the building. Maybe that jump starts

688
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: him a little bit.

689
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 2: It depends how smart he is and how much he's

690
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: willing to look at his own big picture. If he

691
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: wallows in his own failure so far, maybe not. But

692
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: if he can regroup mentally. But but he shouldn't have

693
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: to regroup mentally. He never should have been, you know,

694
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: moved around. He should have done to left tackle the

695
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: first day he was here. He should be going onto

696
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: his first year here. He should be going onto his

697
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 2: fourth year this year as a starting left tackle. On

698
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: the excuse was well, Dan Moore junior can't play right tackle. Okay,

699
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: well cut him exactly. But again, veteran respect. It was

700
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: always more about veteran respect. It was always about being

701
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: a get along game. I'm gonna talk more about that

702
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: a little bit.

703
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Speaker 1: Tom.

704
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: People talk about Tom wins friendships with his players. Friendships

705
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: aren't important. Control is important. He didn't have control of

706
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 2: his players.

707
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: What was Dan more gonna do if he told him

708
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: he had to play right tackle even though he said,

709
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: I don't do that, You said, okay, you're gonna do that.

710
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: When when they break the huddle they both gonna run

711
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: to the left side. Are you kidding me? He would

712
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: have just played right tackle or you cut him if

713
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: he even goes that far but he wasn't gonna go

714
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: that far. He wouldn't knew his NFL career because he

715
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: won't play right tackle. I would have eliminated the middle man. Tom.

716
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have asked him that he could play right tackle.

717
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: Your cut, you wouldn't even have for this positions.

718
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: I know you don't like to play right tackle, so

719
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: you're cut. What are we gout for the trifecta? Tom?

720
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: For today's trifecta?

721
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: Mark?

722
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: I've got three reasons why I don't think the Steelers

723
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: job would be that attractive to some coaching candidates in

724
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: this cycle. Number three, I look at that defense. I

725
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: think that's going to obviously be the big sell. Hey,

726
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: come to Pittsburgh. Got dj WHT, you got Dalen Ramsey.

727
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: This defense is good, it's not that good, and it's old,

728
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: and it's expensive. I wouldn't want to hitch my lag

729
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: and it's not a big sell. That's what they're going

730
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: to sell that. I try to keep that stuff quiet.

731
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,959
Speaker 1: Number Two, they don't commit a lot financially to ancillary

732
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: stuff as far as an ownership is.

733
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: Oh, they've got crappy facility, coaching and their staff payroll.

734
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: It's the smallest and least expensive staff in foot. If

735
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: I'm a young, up and coming coach, I want to

736
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: know that I have a lot of backing there where. Hey,

737
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about I want to get

738
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: this coordinator. But do I have the money?

739
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: Let me tell you what else I want. I don't

740
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: want these old bastards. I don't want Danny Smith, the

741
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: gum chewing mascot. I don't want saddle with that creepy

742
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: old bastard in my own staff.

743
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: I think that would be allowed, don't you think Rooney

744
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: today kind of said that he would allow the coach.

745
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: I will guarantee you Danny Smith's coaching next. He's the

746
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: one that's back. I will guarantee you that a lot

747
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: more are back than should be. I was encouraged though,

748
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: when Rooney said no one from the staff is going

749
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: to be a candidate to move up. That eliminates Arthur

750
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: Smith from potentially just inheriting the head coaching.

751
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 2: I bet he goes someplace else and gets a head

752
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: coaching job. And that's good because then they don't have

753
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 2: to fire him because they might not.

754
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 1: You know the number one reason why this job shouldn't

755
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: be there. Let me interrupt.

756
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I could see Arthur Smith coming back as

757
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 2: the coordinator. I could see I could see it being sold. Okay,

758
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,959
Speaker 2: we bring in Minter whoever Shula the defensive head coach.

759
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: Oh god, and we have your veteran offensive expert at

760
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 2: your side to plot the offensive course.

761
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: This is a nightmare. This is a nightmare scenario that

762
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: you're painting. Tell me you can't see that happen. I

763
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: can see nightmare. Yes. Number one reason though, why you

764
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 1: wouldn't want it this job. They don't have a quarterback

765
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: right now. But more importantly, they're not in the position

766
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 1: right now to go up and get a quarterback unless

767
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: you load up draft capital to move up. But if

768
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: you you're a new coach, do you really want to

769
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: burn a bunch of draft capital that you have just

770
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: to go all in on this one quarterback? I need

771
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: those picks in the second and the third round.

772
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 2: What I want to do is tank for Arch. I

773
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: want to start a hashtag campaign Tom tank for Arch.

774
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 2: But you said he's not coming here, and that would

775
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: be the payoff. Okay, I'm not gonna be a this

776
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: year's draft. There's no way I'm going anywhere near that.

777
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 2: I might I'm gonna do a viewing party for Pittsburgh Brewing.

778
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: I think uh out in Creighton. But but I wouldn't

779
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 2: go near that draft. But but if they tank for Arch,

780
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 2: you go to DC in twenty seven, to DC in

781
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 2: twenty seven. And if he declined to play for the Steelers,

782
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: would I would run best security, run up on stage.

783
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: And like jump into his arms, waving a terrible towel.

784
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: No, no waving a New York Giants Jersey be like

785
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: Uncle Eli go to the Probably wouldn't want to go

786
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: there either.

787
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: Well, they're not going to tank anyway, because that's what

788
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: the owner came out and said. We always compete this year,

789
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: we're always trying to win. Now that's the mode. What

790
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 1: a waste it would be to just have a season

791
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: where you don't win. Maybe they're gonna tank and not

792
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: even know it. The Will Howard Gambit to Fabo, I

793
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: told the Fabo, Actually I didn't, but to Fabo, I

794
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: know you're listening. If you don't write that column, I

795
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: will and not give you credit because it's just a

796
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: great column.

797
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: And if you're you're you're not gonna do that. I mean,

798
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: why wouldn't he do that? That's a great column.

799
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: What time should we put on it? Like, he's got

800
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: forty eight hours? Uh no, three five till three oh

801
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: five to write that column? Yes, and then it's yours

802
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: or to get to me and commit to writing you

803
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: got it? Yeses, and then it would have to be

804
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: written by six and then the rights get transferred to you.

805
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: If that's not the case, well, stealing is probably the

806
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: proper word.

807
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: The trifecta brought to us by Danny's pitern Hogies, Pittsburgh's

808
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: original oven bake togy since nineteen sixty. That's Danny's on

809
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: Route eighty eight and Bethel Park and the first time

810
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: of the program brought to us by our good friends

811
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: at Shandorovich Shandorovitch and Fishman Tom. The Penguins lost two

812
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: to one in a shootout to Tampa Bay last night.

813
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: That's not a bad point against a team that now

814
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: has won eleven in a row. But it was just

815
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: a dead ass game, small crowd, and Hiloff's sled up

816
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 2: two goals on three shots in the shootout and not

817
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 2: on the season. He's a lot eleven goals on sixteen shots.

818
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, in a vacuum, it's not a bad loss at all,

819
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: and I am glad that they bled out that loser point.

820
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 1: But they've scored two goals in the past three games.

821
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: I mean, the offense is just completely dried up right now.

822
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: And I know Rusty's out, so they don't have much

823
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: depth that they don't Rusty, Oh, I'm sorry, Rusty play

824
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: last night, but Carlson's out, they don't have. That's second one.

825
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: I was thinking. They don't have much depth though to

826
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: call upon whenever there are injuries in their lineup. And

827
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I'm not totally discouraged by

828
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: the Penguins right now. But what a big game against

829
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: the old enemy tomorrow night, hall Mark. I mean that

830
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: is huge as playing standards two. They played a night though, too.

831
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: I think Philly's ahead on well they played tonight. What

832
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: is the streak that the Penguins aren't playing teams on

833
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 1: back to back.

834
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: That's like the Penguins have been waiting at home to

835
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: well no one of the games on the road, but

836
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: they've been waiting to play an opponent to travel.

837
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: I know, uh five times in the last like two

838
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: and a half week. Tampa was the same day last

839
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: night they played Philly on Monday. It's a huge advantage.

840
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Philly, Philly's like Talk and Mitchkoff there mercurial Russian

841
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: stars seemed to be at odds. Well, you heard that

842
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: quote yesterday from Ryan Whitney who said Mitchkoff is as

843
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: good as celebrating even talk, I won't give him the chance,

844
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: which shows that Ryan Whitney.

845
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: Filch about hockey.

846
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: I will say that that Ziegris went there from Anaheim

847
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: and I didn't think he'd become the player he has.

848
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: But he's a legit star.

849
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 2: So if talk is keeping Mitchkoff down, which I I

850
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 2: don't think he is, but but Ziegres is certainly blossoming

851
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: under him.

852
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: Wasn't there a lot of noise around Mitchkoff earlier in

853
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: the season too, Like he came to training camp completely

854
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: out of shape, and like now he's playing himself into shape.

855
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: He had a really slow start to the season. There

856
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 1: seems to be a lot of smoke on Mitchcalf's side

857
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: of things. Why he he's known to.

858
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 2: Be a pain in the ass and it was that

859
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 2: way for you know, I forget who the last coach

860
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 2: was in Philly, But yeah, it's it's nothing new. But

861
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 2: I want to talk about that shootout, think because I

862
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: asked MWS last night at the UH at the post

863
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: game conference if they would sub about shilloffs for the shootout,

864
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Speaker 2: which is quite a tongue twister by the way. She

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Speaker 2: sells Seashells by the seashore. Subbout shilloffs for the shootout,

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Speaker 2: and he said no, And that's just dumb. You gotta

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Speaker 2: do it, and I know it. It's been done I

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Speaker 2: think literally twice in the history of the shootout since

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Speaker 2: the NHL adopted it. But you can't keep giving away

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Speaker 2: points in the shootout because he sucks at it.

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Speaker 1: It's only been happening. It's only happened twice in the

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Speaker 1: history of the shootout, I think. So has there ever

873
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Speaker 1: been a goalie as bad as she? Lost the shootouts? Though?

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Speaker 1: Can we can we approach that topic right now with

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Speaker 1: some actual realty to it, like it actually could be true.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a small enough sample with him, because

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Speaker 2: that's not that many shootout attempts.

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Speaker 1: Well, but he always gives up goals, yeah every time.

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Speaker 2: Well, I will say he's improving because last night only

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Speaker 2: one of the goals went through the five hole the

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Speaker 2: other one I think. I think Kooch went and the

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Speaker 2: beget beat by Kutrov, who might be the best player

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Speaker 2: in the league.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But but here's the thing. You hear all this

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Speaker 1: bs and to be to be fair, I'm grateful to

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Speaker 1: meuse he spared me this kind of crap.

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Speaker 2: Afterwards, he says hill Offs is improving, we see him work,

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Speaker 2: we're convinced, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: But at least he didn't say, well.

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Speaker 2: If you put the other goalie and he's coming in

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Speaker 2: calling your risking injury, which is the biggest bunch of

892
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Speaker 2: bulls team because goalie's enter games cold all the time

893
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Speaker 2: due to injuries. But the reason they don't sub out

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Speaker 2: shitoffs for the shootout is because they're sparing his feelings.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to embarrass him. And if you want

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Speaker 1: to not make the.

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Speaker 2: Playoffs to spare some second string goaliees feelings, then you

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Speaker 2: go right ahead, but understand that that's what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: She Loffs is the biggest problem when it comes to

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Speaker 1: these shootouts. Don't get me wrong, but they also don't

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Speaker 1: score enough on shootouts either, Like they're not good enough.

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Speaker 2: Spooked on the shootout. Now he lost control of the

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Speaker 2: pot last night, never even got a shot off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's real bad and he's never gonna get get

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Speaker 1: out of the lineup because it's got a shoot.

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Speaker 2: I guess see it if you're listening, and he might

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Speaker 2: be see it. If you're listening. You have the best

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Speaker 2: backhand in hockey history. Go to it on the shootout.

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Speaker 1: At least Chinnikov scored though, right new Bloodunless you.

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Speaker 2: Know what he did, a lot of them don't do.

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Speaker 2: He came in with speed. Everybody else comes in from

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Speaker 2: the road.

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Speaker 1: He came in with speed. Man, you come in it.

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Speaker 2: When when the Trenton started coming in slow, it spooked

915
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Speaker 2: the goalies because it was against the grain, not that

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Speaker 2: they all come in slow. Coming in fast might might

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Speaker 2: be what spooks him up.

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Speaker 1: Next.

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Speaker 2: I will continue to talk at nauseum about about Mike

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Speaker 2: thomas departure and these Steelers replacing him. And there's a

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Speaker 2: lot about the Tom Win tenure. The people don't want

922
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Speaker 2: to get that. They refuse to understand. I know the

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Speaker 2: national media certainly refuses. I'm going to run that down

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Speaker 2: for you just around the corner on one O five

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Speaker 2: to niney X. Now here's your chance to win one

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars, just as you're this nationwide keyword on our

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Speaker 2: West