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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Happy Wednesday. Welcome into the latest edition of

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Speaker 2: SINCY three sixty starting right now. We're here until three

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Speaker 2: to those talkbacks in our number two this afternoon. Speaking

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Speaker 2: of this afternoon, let's start in hour number three. What

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Speaker 2: we'll have is Kyle Decker from Red Brick Legacy, Miami

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Speaker 2: of Ohio or I guess just Miami. At this point,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk all things red Hawks, the nil collective, basketball,

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Speaker 2: who won again last night? Football, the football game between

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Speaker 2: the Bearcats and the red Hawks that was moved to

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Speaker 2: TQL stadium and a big vote coming up at Miami

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Speaker 2: as it pertains to a new arena. A lot happening

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Speaker 2: in Oxford. We'll talk to Kyle Decker about that right

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Speaker 2: at two o'clock. Also in our number three, we'll talk

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Speaker 2: about red spring training and spring training as a whole.

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Speaker 2: One of the best biggest prospects in baseball for the

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Pirates Connor Griffin. He had himself a two home

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Speaker 2: run day yesterday and speaking of two home runs, Ellie

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Speaker 2: de la Cruz and Eo Honeyjo Suarez went back to

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Speaker 2: back in yesterday's Reds win over the Kansas City Royals

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Speaker 2: in spring training. We'll dive into that more in our

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Speaker 2: number three.

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Speaker 3: You know who Connor Griffin hit that first home runoff

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Speaker 3: of don't oh, it'll be Red Sox left handed hurler

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Speaker 3: Ranger Schworez. Oh who the Reds we'll see in game

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Speaker 3: number two. He's right for the picking of one and

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Speaker 3: sixty two. He is ripe for the pickings. You just

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Speaker 3: better get that straightened out. So I gotta say I

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Speaker 3: like all. I gotta say they're ranger.

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Speaker 2: I like it. As we get into our number two

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Speaker 2: today mentioned that we will have our uh our normal

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Speaker 2: talkbacks will also spend much of our number two on

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Speaker 2: college basketball. Last night, Miami a winner over Eastern Michigan,

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Speaker 2: the Kentucky Wildcats on the road a winner over South Carolina.

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Speaker 2: And how about what happened last night at ud Arena Austin.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, the Dayton Flyers. Some would call that

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Speaker 2: BTA Grand Canyon Mule, Saint Louis all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: sputtering a little bit down the stretch, and Dayton starting

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Speaker 2: to play some very good basketball.

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Speaker 3: Some people are calling him the Saint Louis Billa knts Ooh,

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 2: I like that. Last night in Lubbock, Texas, you see

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Speaker 2: comes up short against Texas Tech, the Red Raiders.

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Speaker 3: I thought for sure, like the first five minutes, Oh

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Speaker 3: my gosh, I was like, okay, it's we're on, Like yep,

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Speaker 3: it's go time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You see made their first nine shots from the field.

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Speaker 2: They were on fire to start the game. But yet, Austin,

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Speaker 2: when you make your first nine shots, I think there's

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Speaker 2: a part of you that thinks you should be maybe

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Speaker 2: winning the game by a good amount. The defense last night,

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Speaker 2: quite frankly for the Bearcats, did not make the trip

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Speaker 2: to Lubbock, Texas. MO tweeted this out earlier. Texas Tech

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Speaker 2: missed twenty five shots last night. They rebounded twelve of

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Speaker 2: those misses. After that nine for nine start, the Bearcats

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Speaker 2: U s had zero answers for Christian Anderson last night,

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Speaker 2: who had thirty one points, eleven rebounds, and seven assist.

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Speaker 2: Texas Tech has been impressive in the two games, small

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Speaker 2: Their style of play bodes very well for that offense

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Speaker 2: the most ball screens used in college basketball. Will break

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Speaker 2: down everything about last night's loss. You'll hear from Wes Miller,

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Speaker 2: an hour ago, he tweeted, this big opportunity tonight at Providence,

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Speaker 2: like lean into it. Hey, I heard that stuff. I'm

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just I don't understand why more people don't

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Speaker 2: a tweet February twenty eighth that the cyclones will be

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Speaker 2: those things are are absolute fire. I looked them up

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Speaker 2: two hundred dollars on the price tag. Okay for the

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati three way for a night. Those again, go look

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Speaker 2: and good on the Cincinnati Cyclones.

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Speaker 3: that's three days from now. Yes, and again, part of

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Speaker 3: your big signing bonus allows you the flexibility much like

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Speaker 3: Duke Tobin. You have the resources to attack the Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: and you'll be wearing one, I assume on Monday.

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Speaker 2: That's right. That's right. What else do we have? The

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Speaker 2: London games, that's right this upcoming season. What does that

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Speaker 3: Well, we don't really know for sure, but we know

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Speaker 3: that the Bengals are slated to travel to Washington next

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Speaker 3: I think in London. The only time the Bengals have

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Speaker 3: that day. I think there's a decent chance they could

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Speaker 2: Do you remember that, I do, Mohammed Sanu.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the last time they played at that stadium,

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Speaker 3: building a new stadium for the Commandos. Yeah, and if

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Speaker 2: of the Cincinnati Bearcats, Brendan Soorsby, who is now a

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Speaker 2: Texas Tech Red Raider, tweeted out last night following the

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Speaker 2: He said, Reckam, let's go Texas Tech men's basketball. Now,

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Speaker 2: it was documented throughout the course of the game that

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Speaker 2: Brendan Sorosby was sitting courtside. I don't have any problem

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Speaker 2: with him celebrating a win for Texas Tech. That is

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Speaker 2: of money. To me, it's just kind of where we

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Speaker 2: are as a collegiate athletics spot right now that a

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Speaker 2: at the end of the year, less than less than

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Speaker 2: three months ago, Brendan Sorsby was a Cincinnati Bearcat. Now

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Speaker 2: he's a Texas Tech Red Raider tweeting after a Texas

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to jump into the back and forth

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Speaker 2: with Brendan Soarsby. He can certainly tweet that out. I

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Speaker 2: will say, the mentions of said tweet are absolutely hilarious.

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Speaker 2: Why are people mad about that?

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Speaker 7: A lot of.

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Speaker 2: People wanted to point out Brendan Soarsby's career in November

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Speaker 3: That's all you need. If you're a Bearcat fan, that's

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Speaker 3: Uh, wild world. Now, I think it's awesome.

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Speaker 3: You know, he obviously goes elsewhere to play. I don't

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Speaker 3: Since he fans ain't bleep did Brendan Soresby save the program?

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Speaker 2: What about this one? Bleep? You never won more than

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Speaker 3: Here's one from a guy who claims to be Jared Cumberland.

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Speaker 3: It's not him. Oh, you're actually a bleeping loser. So

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Speaker 2: See you in two hundred and forty two days. Homecomings

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Speaker 3: If he has any if he needs any advice on

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Speaker 2: I'm used to this behavior from Bearcat fan. Shout out

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Speaker 3: I love this website, man, it is the absolute best.

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Speaker 3: I got to issue a correction. It was twenty twenty

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Speaker 8: Easily brings it home, swinging the ground ball past the

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Speaker 2: Well how about that? Hell yeah, how about a walk

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Speaker 2: number three. Let's talk some some NFL combine. It's happening

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Speaker 9: Years, whether it be at the trade deadline or in

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Speaker 12: can't have a bunch of twenty million dollar players in

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Speaker 12: every position.

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Speaker 4: It's just it's not feasible. The math doesn't work.

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Speaker 12: And so when you give up a young player that's

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Speaker 12: a four year player and a chance at you know,

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Speaker 12: finding Geno Atkins in the fourth round, you just.

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Speaker 4: Give up that fourth round pick. Nobody cares.

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Speaker 12: But if you name Geno Atkins, everybody would care that

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Speaker 12: you didn't have him. It would have affected us pretty

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Speaker 12: heavily if we did not have him. So we try

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Speaker 12: to maintain as many opportunities to find good young players

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Speaker 12: as we can. Now, there are definite needs that our

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Speaker 12: football team has, and those are the areas we'll try

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Speaker 12: to fill in with more proven veterans.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's part one there with with Duke Tobin,

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Speaker 2: a lot of emphasis on the big swings, and I

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Speaker 2: get that. The second part of that past rush being King,

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Speaker 2: I get where Duke is going with that. That the

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Speaker 2: part there in Traggs Mike Patai asked it what's the

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Speaker 2: difference of a big swing in free agency versus the draft.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you can operate under the assumption of, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, Gena Watkins was a fourth round pick like that.

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Speaker 2: You just can't do that. You're not going to find

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Speaker 2: those more often than not. You got to take the

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Speaker 2: big swings. What I think is interesting is Duke Tobin

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Speaker 2: took exactly zero time Austin to pound himself on the

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Speaker 2: back of up against Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 3: Again, well not only the Joe Flacco, but also, hey,

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Speaker 3: don't forget I drafted Geno Atkins too.

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Speaker 2: I mean too. Just let's pat that back a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Here and you'll you'll hear In the second part, he

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Speaker 3: reminds people that he drafted Andrew Whitworth as well. Like

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Speaker 3: my translation of that is they're not going to be

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Speaker 3: going and getting Max Crosby, correct, They're not going to

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Speaker 3: make a big move to move up or maybe even

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Speaker 3: back in the draft to give up draft capital. To me,

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Speaker 3: this was his indication of, yes, we're gonna go sign

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Speaker 3: some veteran free agents to help the team. We like

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Speaker 3: the pass rushers that are available, but we're not going

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Speaker 3: to empty the bank. Yeah, to go and get them,

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Speaker 3: and the bank being financially with a guy like Hendrickson

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Speaker 3: or Crosby, and also the value that they put into

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Speaker 3: draft picks, which clearly is quite a bit. If they

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Speaker 3: view every single draft pick as Geno Atkins, well then

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Speaker 3: hell yeah, he's never going to trade one.

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Speaker 2: My thing is this, you know he pushed back away

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Speaker 2: with I believe it was Kelsey Conway's question about the

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Speaker 2: big swing, and Duke says, we're always looking, but he

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Speaker 2: goes right into well, you know, with big swings, there's

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Speaker 2: a big chance you swing and miss. I don't like

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Speaker 2: that thought process, right, That's the mentality I want to

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Speaker 2: get away from, because that is pulling back more than

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Speaker 2: you are willing to go. Well, you know, a big

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Speaker 2: swing requires big compensation, and when you take those big swings,

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Speaker 2: there's a big chance that you miss. And then you

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Speaker 2: go back and like, no offense to Joe Flacco. I

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Speaker 2: didn't view Joe Flacco as a big swing last year.

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Speaker 2: I agree, but he goes to Joe Flacco as the

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Speaker 2: big swing that they made. I dislike the thought process

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Speaker 2: of there's a chance we miss, and that's going to

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Speaker 2: hold us back from maybe taking that big swing. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think when you play it overwhelmingly safe, you.

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Speaker 2: Get the results where they're at.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I understand that if you play with fire,

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Speaker 3: you might get burnt. That's that is a real possibility,

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Speaker 3: but also you can do something really special at the

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Speaker 3: same time, yep. And I think you have to understand

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Speaker 3: when you're able or more willing to take on the

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Speaker 3: risk because you can withstand if you miss. So right now,

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Speaker 3: when you have a Burrow and a Chase and a

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Speaker 3: Higgins and you have good young players on defense, I

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Speaker 3: feel like now's the time when you're more prepared to

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Speaker 3: take a big swing because if you miss, you can

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Speaker 3: still withstand some of that and financially down the road

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Speaker 3: they still have flexibility. And so yes, it's not always

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Speaker 3: the right time to take a big swing. If Andy

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Speaker 3: Dalton's your quarterback, if Jake Browning's your quarterback, if David

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Speaker 3: Klingler's your quarterback, it's not the time to take a

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Speaker 3: huge swing. But there are times when it's warranted because

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Speaker 3: of the way you've built the rest of the roster.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's where he's missing a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a break, let's come back, and let's get

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Speaker 2: to the second part of what Duke Tobin had to say,

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Speaker 2: and we'll react to that as well.

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Speaker 3: Maybe my favorite five minutes of Duke Tobin ever in

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Speaker 3: the twenty almost thirty years of Duke Tobin being at

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Speaker 3: this organization. The next five minutes are maybe my favorite

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Speaker 3: five five minutes I've ever heard him speak.

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Speaker 2: That happens next. Stick with us on ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station. Give a present to the planet for the.

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Speaker 1: You've found Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back our number one thanks to Skyline Chilly. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for listening to ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Part two of what Duke Tobin had to say? This

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Speaker 2: as coined by Austin before the break, your favorite five

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Speaker 2: minutes of Duke Tobin audio.

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Speaker 3: And it starts with a great question from Kelsey Conway.

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Speaker 3: How do you think you guys have done excuse me

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Speaker 3: with Jeff Hobson, my apologies.

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Speaker 4: How do you think you guys have done the last

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Speaker 4: year or two sticking to your board as opposed to

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Speaker 4: maybe reaching for means or you thank you. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 4: always a big conversation.

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Speaker 12: In general, what I prefer is staying with in the

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Speaker 12: bucket of player that we evaluate as worthy of that pick.

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Speaker 4: And not going down.

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Speaker 12: Now within that bucket, sometimes we'll take need, and so

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Speaker 12: it's always a big conversation of his need. More important,

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Speaker 12: if there's a glaring player that we have evaluated that

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Speaker 12: we believe is truly at a level higher than everybody else,

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Speaker 12: even though they might fit a need, we'll probably just

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Speaker 12: go with that guy because in a year that might

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Speaker 12: be something that looked really smart. And we've done that

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Speaker 12: in the past with guys. You know, Wit was that way.

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Speaker 12: You know, he was the best player Availa when we

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Speaker 12: took him. And when we have a guy like that

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Speaker 12: that stands out on our board, we're normally not going

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Speaker 12: to pass on it.

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Speaker 4: Do you think you I mean, that's what I mean,

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Speaker 4: that's what you try to do.

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Speaker 12: But I mean, there there are times when maybe we

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Speaker 12: had guys at the bottom of a bucket and guys

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Speaker 12: at the top of the bucket, and we've decided to

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Speaker 12: go with immediate need, and it's always a temptation. And

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Speaker 12: when we do that and it doesn't work out, that's

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Speaker 12: my fault. But our philosophy is we want guys worthy

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Speaker 12: of the pick that we're taking.

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Speaker 4: Regardless of the position.

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Speaker 10: Andrew Whitwerth said last week, like this is the biggest

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Speaker 10: off season in the Joker era. And I know that

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Speaker 10: you guys internally don't get up differently from one off season.

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Speaker 6: To the other.

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Speaker 10: Like you have your process and you go through it

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Speaker 10: that you're obviously human and you know when you have

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Speaker 10: a quarterback, you know as age, you know you have

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Speaker 10: a receiver. How has all of that affected you in

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Speaker 10: the way that you construct the roster if it has

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Speaker 10: changed anything at all?

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Speaker 4: With you with me pretty full speed all the time.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I this has never left my mind. Certainly.

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Speaker 4: I'm keenly aware that we have to improve.

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Speaker 12: When you come off of a bad season like we

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Speaker 12: have and we didn't get over the hump and win

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Speaker 12: these games that I felt like we should have won,

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Speaker 12: that we could have won, it is hard and you

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Speaker 12: need to improve enough to where those are losses turn

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Speaker 12: into wins.

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Speaker 4: And that's what we're focused on. We know where our

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Speaker 4: team is.

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Speaker 12: If I didn't believe in our team, I'd be, you know,

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Speaker 12: doing what Ben wants me to do and dumping all

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Speaker 12: the players and all those things, you know, But we

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Speaker 12: got a team that can win.

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Speaker 4: In my opinion win it all. That's my opinion.

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Speaker 12: Nobody else believes it fine, But am I aware of that?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 12: And do I think that we can make additions this

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Speaker 12: offseason that push us over the hump?

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 10: And then just to follow up on that, because we

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Speaker 10: talked to Zach a lot more. Obviously the head coach.

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Speaker 10: When Bruckers are going a certain way, like a coach's

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Speaker 10: job security is always brought up. And how did this

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Speaker 10: past year, with the scrutiny from whether it be like

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Speaker 10: national media or from the fans, how did that affect you?

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Speaker 10: Did you have to learn how to block the noise out?

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Speaker 10: I mean, obviously you've been doing this for so long

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Speaker 10: and every year it's different, but the magnitude behind like

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Speaker 10: the Burroughs, and it just nationally it feels like the

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Speaker 10: Bangles are under like a bigger spotlight than they might

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Speaker 10: have ever been in a franchise.

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Speaker 9: So how did you deal with all the noise around?

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Speaker 15: It?

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Speaker 16: Disappointing.

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Speaker 12: We don't mind being under the spotlight. I mean I

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Speaker 12: don't spend a lot of time on that. I view

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Speaker 12: that world as kind of the upside down. You know,

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Speaker 12: if you're there, you're looking for the exit. As fast

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Speaker 12: as you can get there, and you probably shouldn't want

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Speaker 12: to go. There isn't any exterior force that can put

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Speaker 12: more pressure on me than I put on myself. And

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Speaker 12: when we're not waiting, I put more pressure on myself

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Speaker 12: than any one of you can or any can.

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Speaker 4: Believe me, it hurts me more.

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Speaker 12: And and so you know, my motivation doesn't come from

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Speaker 12: national media or fans' perception. It comes from me and

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Speaker 12: I feel it, you know, I feel it before they

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Speaker 12: do because I can see it happening, maybe before they can.

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Speaker 12: And so that stuff doesn't really year to year.

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Speaker 4: Maybe there's more, maybe there's.

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Speaker 12: Less, but my motivation comes from within me. And believe me,

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Speaker 12: I'm harder on myself than anybody outside of myself can be.

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Speaker 2: All Right, So that is part two there of Duke

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Speaker 2: Tobin a lot of good stuff, and credit the media

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Speaker 2: as well for some of the questions that we're asked there.

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Speaker 2: I think it's obvious it's the biggest offseason and Duke

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Speaker 2: Tobin is not shying away from that. I don't think

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Speaker 2: this team as currently constructed can win it all. I

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Speaker 2: think they got heck of a lot of work to do.

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Speaker 2: That was first of all.

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Speaker 3: I loved those answers, like, that's what I want to

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Speaker 3: hear as a Bengals fan.

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Speaker 17: I like that.

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Speaker 3: And to peel back the curtain of best player versus

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Speaker 3: biggest need. Yeah now they Yeah, that was cool to say, Okay,

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Speaker 3: we want to pick a player that we think is worthy,

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Speaker 3: worthy of this spot in the draft. Glad to hear that.

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Speaker 3: He also admitted sometimes we don't and when it doesn't work,

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Speaker 3: that's my fault. Yes, accountability from Duke Tobin. Great job.

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Speaker 3: Duke also hypocritical. At one point says I'm keenly aware

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Speaker 3: that we need to improve. Thirty seconds later says I

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Speaker 3: think we can win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Those two things don't work hand in hand. And that's

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Speaker 3: what worries me about his ability to actually build the roster.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can say all the right things, and

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Speaker 3: he did, but you got to actually execute it. And

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Speaker 3: you've got to be able and be willing and be

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Speaker 3: open to the idea of changing up your process a

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Speaker 3: little bit more than what they have been. And we

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Speaker 3: can bring some of that back tomorrow. Because he did

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Speaker 3: go on to say he was asked about the idea

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Speaker 3: of less voices and more voices in the room, and

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Speaker 3: I think that answer is interesting, and he also kind

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Speaker 3: of talked about the addition of the scouts and the

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Speaker 3: data and stuff like that that they're working with. All

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Speaker 3: this is good, but does it translate?

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Speaker 2: Is the question? I think the overall out of those

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Speaker 2: ten minutes, the overall team of can you win it

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Speaker 2: all without taking a big swing? I think this offseason

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Speaker 2: is a big question because, as you mentioned, and it's

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Speaker 2: what I wrote down here, you can't talk about how

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Speaker 2: much the roster needs to get better and then in

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Speaker 2: the same sentence or the same question or answer session,

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Speaker 2: say that we have a team that can win it all.

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Speaker 2: This team right now can't win it all the way

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Speaker 2: they are currently constructed. You can't win it all. What

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Speaker 2: can you do to get there? And does that require

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Speaker 2: a big swing going forward? Let's do this because I

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Speaker 2: know we've got two parts of Zach Taylor as well,

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Speaker 2: and only got one segment when we come back, So

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Speaker 2: let's let's change it up for halftime. Let's recap last

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Speaker 2: night what happened in Lubbock, Texas, get a little West

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Speaker 2: Miller audio, and then we'll use that first longer segment

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Speaker 2: in hour number two to go through what Zach Taylor

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Speaker 2: had to say in the same setting speaking to members

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Speaker 2: of the media yesterday at the combine. So we'll wrap

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Speaker 2: the Bearcats from last night, and then to start our

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Speaker 2: number two, you'll hear from Zach Taylor and what he

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Speaker 2: had to say and Austin and I's reactions to that

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Speaker 2: as well. All still ahead since he three to sixty

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Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Hey Alexa, what's

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Speaker 2: going on in the NFL?

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Speaker 1: Getting ESPN fifteen thirty from iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, sorry, I'm back DESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Who were you doing, man? I was catching up with

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Speaker 2: mo is the first I've seen mo since last night. Oh,

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Speaker 2: and we were breaking down some of the game, the

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Speaker 2: loss in Lubbock, Texas, and Moe put it very well.

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Speaker 2: There was a point, Austin last night you mentioned the

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Speaker 2: start of the game. UC came out and made their

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Speaker 2: first nine baskets of the game and it was twenty

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Speaker 2: three to eighteen, and you kind of thought at that point, Man,

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Speaker 2: if you go nine for nine to start the game,

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Speaker 2: ideally you got maybe a double digit lead. Early on.

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Speaker 2: They had no answer for Texas Tech. They had no

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Speaker 2: answer last night for Christian Anderson thirty one points, eleven rebounds,

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Speaker 2: seven assists. For the point guard for Texas Tech, Donovan

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Speaker 2: Atwell made four threes last night. This is the Texas

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Speaker 2: Tech team. I give Texas Tech credit because they were

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Speaker 2: a team that liked to play through their big JT Toppin.

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Speaker 2: They lose him and they have completely changed up their moo.

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Speaker 2: They spread you out, they beat you off the dribble,

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Speaker 2: and they have shooters spread out around Christian Anderson. It's

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Speaker 2: a very tough ask and at times last night I

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Speaker 2: thought UC looked tired. You know, Saturday at Kansas, what

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Speaker 2: went into that win? A turnaround to play on Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: It just didn't look like they had their legs at

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Speaker 2: times last night. Mentioned before, Texas Tech only missed twenty

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Speaker 2: five shots on the night, and on the twenty five

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Speaker 2: shots they missed, they rebounded offensively twelve of them. They

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Speaker 2: shot fifty two percent from the field, forty percent from

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Speaker 2: the three point line. They out rebounded the Cincinnati Bearcats

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Speaker 2: by sixteen last night in a game that you see

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Speaker 2: loses eighty to sixty eight. Here is a little bit

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Speaker 2: of what Wes Miller had to say in opening up

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Speaker 2: his postgame press conference.

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Speaker 18: Coach for this season, your team has been excellent for

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Speaker 18: the most part at defensive rebounding. Opponents are getting twenty

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Speaker 18: six percent of their misshots back as offensive rebounds. But

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Speaker 18: it was a problem tonight twelve from for Texas Tech

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Speaker 18: nineteen second chance points. Did you feel that that was

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Speaker 18: the biggest difference in the game tonight?

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 4: I did.

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Speaker 2: I said that to the team just now.

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Speaker 15: I thought the offensive rebounding, the points off of offensive rebounding,

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Speaker 15: was the reason why the game wasn't a great game.

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Speaker 15: In the last minute of the game, you know, I

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Speaker 15: think if we checked the box there, we'd be in

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Speaker 15: position to win another big time game on the road.

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Speaker 2: But we weren't able to do that. You know, Christian

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Speaker 2: Anderson had a knight.

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Speaker 15: We're trying to put two to the ball like it

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Speaker 15: wasn't like we were just letting it happen. We're trying

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Speaker 15: to get it out of his hands. But he had

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Speaker 15: a big time night, and the offensive rebounding was difficult

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Speaker 15: for us.

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Speaker 19: I thought the piss the Caliti that they played download,

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Speaker 19: they got a chance to get away with a lot

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Speaker 19: of stuff that really gave them an advantage. But I

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Speaker 19: thought that gave them the advantage. That really gave some separation,

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Speaker 19: especially when you guys couldn't reciprocate on the other end.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I got to choose my words carefully with stuff

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Speaker 15: like that, So I you know, just uh, next question,

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Speaker 15: you know, type of thing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But not that I have a problem with your comment.

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Speaker 2: I just I'm I gotta.

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Speaker 15: Choose my words carefully and listen.

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Speaker 2: Uh, I don't. I don't ever want.

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Speaker 15: To sit here and say that there was a team

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Speaker 15: that was more physical than us. I thought our kids fight.

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Speaker 2: Was fine, but we.

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Speaker 15: We didn't have We weren't quicker to the ball tonight.

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Speaker 15: We weren't more physical tonight, and it was difficult because

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Speaker 15: got penalized for that a little bit too when we

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Speaker 15: tried to be I.

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Speaker 18: Don't think anybody's going to make the case the Texas

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Speaker 18: Tech is better without JT. Topping, But defending them in

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Speaker 18: some ways seems harder to me. He's such a dominant

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Speaker 18: figure when he's playing, they're going to him. He's going

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Speaker 18: to shoot. You know, he's hard to stop. But without

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Speaker 18: a man, the ball pops around, they drive, they kicked,

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Speaker 18: They've got great three point shooters. It's a very difficult

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Speaker 18: matchup for your team.

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Speaker 15: Defensively, well, I wouldn't say better either, you know, because

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Speaker 15: he's was the player here in our league. But they're

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Speaker 15: different and I feel like they've been energized. You know,

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Speaker 15: guys now that weren't playing or they weren't playing big minutes,

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Speaker 15: they're playing with great energy because they're getting their opportunity

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Speaker 15: and you can see they're getting a little bit of

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Speaker 15: a boost and that's to be expected. But he'll give

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Speaker 15: them credit for being able to respond and play without them.

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Speaker 19: A guy who didn't get all the stats that justify

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Speaker 19: he had a great game, Lawan wats He had thirteen points,

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Speaker 19: five rebounds. But they ran a lot of their offense

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Speaker 19: almost like Raymond Green threw him.

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Speaker 2: They passed it to him.

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Speaker 19: They do a lot of cuts up front, and it

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Speaker 19: seems like when they got one on one, he would

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Speaker 19: just back down and back down until a double team

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Speaker 19: came or if it didn't come. And since we're in

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Speaker 19: the second half or day they had him one on one,

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Speaker 19: there was so much action going up that he was

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Speaker 19: just picking a part with back cuts.

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Speaker 15: He's kind of like they used the Darien Williams kid

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Speaker 15: last year. He's kind of the same thing. So do

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Speaker 15: you double. We'd try to double him at the end

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Speaker 15: of the first half, they skip it and hit a

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Speaker 15: big three. You go play one on one. Well, we

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Speaker 15: got him to miss and then they get the offensive

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Speaker 15: rebound and that's when the an one occurs.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's a good passer.

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Speaker 15: I don't know if he can finish over top all night,

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Speaker 15: but if you let him pass and facilitate, and then

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Speaker 15: you don't box when you do get him to miss,

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Speaker 15: he can be very effective.

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Speaker 2: He heard us in the middle.

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Speaker 15: We're trying to cover the three point line and a

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Speaker 15: couple of times they get the ball to the middle

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Speaker 15: of the floor and we're taking two to Anderson and

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Speaker 15: we don't rotate over and they get a couple easy layups.

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Speaker 15: That'd be the third thing that happened tonight, I mean,

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Speaker 15: quite honestly. And Wats is a good decision making or facilitator.

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Speaker 15: He was the recipient of a couple of those plays,

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Speaker 15: not all of them, but a couple of them.

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Speaker 18: He got off to an incredible offensive start making your

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Speaker 18: first nine shots. Normally, you'd have some separation if that

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Speaker 18: were the case in the back of your mind where

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Speaker 18: you thinking we should be up more considering how well

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Speaker 18: we're shooting the ball.

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Speaker 15: Well, I thought I'd like to think about it that

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Speaker 15: way when I'm coaching. I just it was frustrated that

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Speaker 15: we weren't getting stops, you know, like that was frustrating,

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Speaker 15: you know, because you just know you're playing against this

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Speaker 15: is the number one offensive team in our league at home.

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Speaker 15: Like you said, they're playing with great rhythm. You could

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Speaker 15: see it when they played Kansas State in their last game,

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Speaker 15: and so you're you could see to start the game.

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Speaker 15: We weren't able to impact them the way that I

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Speaker 15: wanted our defense to impact him.

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Speaker 2: That was my concern.

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Speaker 15: You know, I didn't have a big problem with our offense,

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Speaker 15: but I thought we missed missed a couple like dayDay

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Speaker 15: got some great looks tonight, and he just wasn't in

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Speaker 15: a rhythm JC. I thought we executed to get him

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Speaker 15: a couple of wide open threes and pretty big moments,

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Speaker 15: you know, I thought, mood, you know, still is. He

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Speaker 15: didn't make quite as many. It was very physical down

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Speaker 15: there with him in the post. But he's in a

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Speaker 15: pretty good rhythm so offensively other than some misshots, and

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Speaker 15: I didn't like us on the offensive board. I didn't

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Speaker 15: have a huge problem with this, but you know, not

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Speaker 15: doing a better job on the defensive glass, would it be?

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Speaker 15: Would be my complaint?

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Speaker 2: There is Wes Miller with Dan Hord and Terry Nelson.

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Speaker 2: After last night's lost to Texas tech u SE was

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Speaker 2: led again by Mustapha Chom, who had twenty one points

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Speaker 2: and ten rebounds on the night, Bob Bob Miller twelve points,

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Speaker 2: Gisel James had twelve, and Jalen Celestine added fifteen points.

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Speaker 2: One of the key factors I thought for the Bearcats

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Speaker 2: last night as well. Only six points on two for

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Speaker 2: eight shooting from Dayde Thomas and just two bench points

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Speaker 2: collectively between Cincire, Harris Keishan Tillery and Tyler McKinley. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what it means for any outside chance of

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Speaker 2: UC making a run at the NCAA Tournament. I do

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Speaker 2: know this that would even require the next three wins

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Speaker 2: to have a conversation going to the Big twelve tournament

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Speaker 2: that starts on Saturday. When the Bearcats welcome in Oklahoma State,

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Speaker 2: they'll follow that up with welcoming in next Tuesday by you,

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Speaker 2: and then they'll wrap up their season on the.

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Speaker 3: Road at TCU. That's next for the Cincinnati Bearcats. What's

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Speaker 3: next for us? We flip back to the National Football

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Speaker 3: League the head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals, Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 3: We have two different cuts of Zach Taylor as well.

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Speaker 3: We'll start our two with the first cut. We'll react

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Speaker 3: and then we'll get to the second cut and react

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Speaker 3: to that as well, leading into your talkbacks. Next on

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome back. It is our number two on

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Speaker 2: Wednesday afternoon sincey three sixty. Thanks for listening along. In

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Speaker 2: our number one, we played about ten minutes of Duke

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Speaker 2: Tobin thanks to our guy James Rapine. One more time, Austin.

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Speaker 2: How can folks if they want to listen and see

874
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Speaker 2: more of this courtesy of our guy James.

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Speaker 3: He has an audio only channel. It's a podcast page.

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Speaker 3: You can find it on the iHeartRadio app. It's called

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals Talk. I didn't know yet a podcast feed

878
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Speaker 3: for it, but he does, and he puts a lot

879
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Speaker 3: of the audio that maybe you don't always have video for.

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Speaker 3: And in this case, at the combine, the meeting with

881
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Speaker 3: the local media was audio only. So you don't see

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Speaker 3: this anywhere else. You don't see this on social media

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Speaker 3: and otherwise. So it was very thankful to James for letting.

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Speaker 2: Us use of it. Again, this is opposite of what

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Speaker 2: is happening when they're at the podium and you're filming

886
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Speaker 2: that and you're hearing and seeing all of that. This

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Speaker 2: is separate from that. Just with the local media, we

888
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Speaker 2: played the Duke Tobin side of things. We've got Zach

889
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Speaker 2: Taylor cut into two segments as well. We'll get to

890
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Speaker 2: both of those here in this segment of the show

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Speaker 2: before talkbacks. Let's start with segment one of what Zach

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Speaker 2: Taylor had to say, is.

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Speaker 21: There an attribute you'd like to add most of Sason attribute?

894
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Speaker 5: Correct?

895
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Speaker 21: No, I don't have a sit. I don't want to

896
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Speaker 21: just give an answer, just give an answer. We just

897
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Speaker 21: want the best players that fit us, and we'll take

898
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Speaker 21: them how they come to us.

899
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Speaker 13: Are there certain things that those guys maybe have in

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Speaker 13: common that maybe you didn't have in previous years?

901
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Speaker 21: Uther, Well, I mean, if I'm drawing up my perfect player,

902
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Speaker 21: it's got great football intelligence, tremendous character, cares more about

903
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Speaker 21: others than cares about himself. Those are all things you want.

904
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Speaker 21: That's not always how.

905
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Speaker 2: They're gonna come.

906
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Speaker 21: Sometimes there's gonna be an alete talent level that is

907
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Speaker 21: maybe deficient in other areas, and you have to decide

908
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Speaker 21: what are we accepting of And those are decisions that

909
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Speaker 21: had to be opt to make.

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Speaker 11: For three years now, we've come to the combine and

911
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Speaker 11: asked you specifically about safety each year different players. Is

912
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Speaker 11: there anything you guys have learned in the process in

913
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Speaker 11: the last couple of years at that position that you're

914
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Speaker 11: hoping to take forward to when you guys figure out what.

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Speaker 21: Your plans are for especially think you know, I've seen

916
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Speaker 21: Jordan Battle continue to grow over the last several years,

917
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Speaker 21: and I've encouraged the direction that he's going and what

918
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Speaker 21: he's going to do for us in the future, especially

919
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Speaker 21: around a lot of other young players, the backers, we

920
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Speaker 21: have the corners, we have the guys up front, so

921
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Speaker 21: you know, we'll see how that position plays out for us.

922
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Speaker 21: But he's the guy that I continue to be excited about,

923
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Speaker 21: and I think he's only going to be better moving forward.

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Speaker 13: Can you learn from the free agents that you've added

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Speaker 13: at that position as you evaluate what we should look

926
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Speaker 13: for this or this could be a could have been

927
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Speaker 13: a red flag?

928
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Speaker 7: Or is it just in case?

929
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Speaker 21: I would give you that. I think every year you're

930
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Speaker 21: just booking ad guys that you think can help you win.

931
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Speaker 2: Further you'll get from the playoffs, the last appearance.

932
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Speaker 22: What kind of impact does that have on the processes

933
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Speaker 22: that you'll go through in the offseason.

934
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Speaker 2: Instance, to prepare for each year.

935
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Speaker 21: I think the side of that is you don't want

936
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Speaker 21: to get You don't feel like just because you made

937
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Speaker 21: the playoffs, like we got it all figured out, you know,

938
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Speaker 21: And so I think coming out of those playoff years,

939
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Speaker 21: I was always trying to find ways to keep it

940
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Speaker 21: fresh for the guys and change it up and not

941
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Speaker 21: let it be monotonous. And so that's no different when

942
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Speaker 21: you don't make it. I wish I was standing here

943
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Speaker 21: off of several playoff runs that we've had, but we're

944
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Speaker 21: not and so just got to continue to do whatever

945
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Speaker 21: whatever we feel is necessary to get the most other

946
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Speaker 21: players in the off season training camp so we can

947
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Speaker 21: go win some games and win the division, win the

948
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Speaker 21: playoffs being a championship games and and so that's that's

949
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Speaker 21: just what we're going to try to figure out way

950
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Speaker 21: to do.

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Speaker 13: Is it harder to snop? Is it harder to almost

952
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Speaker 13: stop that snowball effect? Or does it feel harder than

953
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Speaker 13: it did when you guys started to go on these

954
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Speaker 13: runs and expectations excitment.

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Speaker 21: No, I don't think so. I think every year has

956
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Speaker 21: been a little bit unique, and we just got to

957
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Speaker 21: capitalize on this year and make it a great one.

958
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Speaker 23: You were talking about seizing on the continuity of your staff.

959
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Speaker 23: It sounded like, you know, you don't want to read

960
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Speaker 23: too much into that and get ahead of yourself, but yeah,

961
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Speaker 23: three organizations overhauling their staffs could be really meaningful. You know,

962
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Speaker 23: do you think that could actually be a meaningful difference.

963
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Speaker 21: I don't know. I don't know it could be. I'm

964
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Speaker 21: glad that we have continuity, So so what I have

965
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Speaker 21: to make a lot of changes and we're able to

966
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Speaker 21: be at the spot. We're here on February twenty fourth,

967
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Speaker 21: and we feel like we're in a great spot, knowing

968
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Speaker 21: these guys on all levels, being able to help Doke

969
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Speaker 21: and his crew, and so that's just where we're at.

970
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Speaker 21: So I'm not going to speculate on how other teams

971
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Speaker 21: are doing it and what positions right in or not.

972
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Speaker 15: Playing where any talking specifically about exactly what you need

973
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Speaker 15: position wise, but do you feel like the organization is

974
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Speaker 15: in a spot where you you kind of know what

975
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Speaker 15: you need and you know how to fix what went

976
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Speaker 15: wrong in the last year.

977
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Speaker 21: So I feel like we're in a great spot where

978
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Speaker 21: we'll all speak the same language and we're just ready

979
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Speaker 21: to have a.

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Speaker 13: Great Yearlar kind of account into specifics, but how much

981
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Speaker 13: did al schemes solidify over the last year knowing exactly

982
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Speaker 13: hitting that one.

983
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Speaker 21: I think with anything your first year, you're getting to

984
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Speaker 21: know these players, you're getting to know the coaches, your

985
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 21: opponents that you're facing, and so it evolved over the

986
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Speaker 21: course of the season. I think he's in a great

987
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Speaker 21: place with the confidence level he has and who we

988
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Speaker 21: have in the locker room and the potential that we

989
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Speaker 21: can add and so it's just exciting, you know. I

990
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Speaker 21: think that's the best word, is just where excited for

991
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Speaker 21: this offseason and to see how we can make our

992
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Speaker 21: team better.

993
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Speaker 11: You look at the last couple of years, like there's

994
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Speaker 11: a term that a lot of people say in the

995
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Speaker 11: NFL coaches like adapt or die, like that you need

996
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Speaker 11: to be able to adapt year to year. It seems

997
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Speaker 11: like you have adopted a lot through different philosophies on

998
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Speaker 11: offense with Duke specific specifically, has he changed at all

999
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Speaker 11: in any of his processes in the way he evaluates

1000
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 11: players since you first started working with him.

1001
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Speaker 21: I think that's a question for him on how he's adopted.

1002
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Speaker 21: I think it's a phrase that can be overused. It's

1003
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Speaker 21: a fun phrase to say, and people just recited and

1004
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Speaker 21: say that's that's the way it's got to be done.

1005
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Speaker 21: I've got a lot of belief and Duke and the

1006
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Speaker 21: scouting department close to all those guys believe in what

1007
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Speaker 21: they do, have a ton of confidence. Like the way

1008
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Speaker 21: that they utilize us as well, And again is this

1009
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Speaker 21: this is their show at this point, But I like

1010
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Speaker 21: the way that they empower us to supplement them and

1011
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 21: they want our thoughts and they want to all be

1012
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Speaker 21: on the same page, and we all want players that

1013
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 21: we all want doesn't mean that we're not gonna have

1014
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 21: disagreements at times about who this player is and how

1015
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 21: we're going to utilize them. And that's why we make

1016
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Speaker 21: sure we have all those hard conversation. So we're in

1017
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Speaker 21: a great spot and I'm excited to see how we

1018
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Speaker 21: all come together and figure out who's going to join

1019
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 21: an AWK roam.

1020
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Speaker 2: All right, So I thought a couple of things stood

1021
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Speaker 2: out to me in that bit from Zach Taylor. One,

1022
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Speaker 2: he seemed to be very high in the praise for

1023
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 2: Jordan Battle. We've asked the question is is Jordan Battle

1024
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 2: a player you can rely on next year opposite of

1025
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: a new safety or was Jordan Battle viewed as just

1026
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 2: much better than than what Genostone was? And that was

1027
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Speaker 2: more of an indictment on Geno Stone. Zach went into

1028
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Speaker 2: detail on players He's looking for high football i Q,

1029
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,720
Speaker 2: high character guys are gonna put the team first before

1030
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 2: the actual player. He talked about the staff continuity, a

1031
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 2: couple things that are interesting there at the end for me, Austin,

1032
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: he made two references to say we're in a great

1033
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Speaker 2: spot again, I know that's a lot of coach speak.

1034
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Speaker 2: I don't think they're in the best spot. I think

1035
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Speaker 2: that I have work to do to get back to

1036
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Speaker 2: that spot. And I would like to highlight that a

1037
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Speaker 2: little bit more of you know what, we were not

1038
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Speaker 2: where we want to be. We missed the playoffs last year.

1039
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 2: If we were in a great spot and where we

1040
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,240
Speaker 2: wanted to be, then then we would have gone further

1041
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 2: last year. What happened last year wasn't good enough. We're

1042
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 2: working to get ourselves to a great spot. And then

1043
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 2: he did he was noncommittal on Duke's process, but if

1044
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 2: he caught there at the end, he did say this

1045
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 2: is their show right now, meaning they've got a lot

1046
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 2: of the say and they're going to obviously collaborate, but

1047
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 2: he didn't he did use the term the phrase that

1048
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Speaker 2: this is their show speaking of Duke and the scouting

1049
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 2: department as the combine gets underway. Those are just the

1050
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: things that that I wrote down that kind of stood

1051
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Speaker 2: out to me from from that first tidbit of Zach.

1052
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Speaker 3: I would argue that what he means by we're in

1053
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 3: a good spot is that we're in a good spot

1054
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 3: to fix the football team. I would hope that's what

1055
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 3: he means, said, you know the lens of the scouting combine. Yeah,

1056
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 3: I get where you're coming from. I'm hoping maybe I'm

1057
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 3: looking at it through rose colored glasses, that he's thinking

1058
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 3: we're in a good spot to fix what's been wrong.

1059
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Speaker 3: Jordan Battle has been talked about a lot. He was asked,

1060
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Speaker 3: Duke Tobin was asked about him, and Zach was asked

1061
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Speaker 3: about him. I think he's going to be a piece

1062
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Speaker 3: of this team moving forward. I think he stepped up

1063
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 3: the part about Al's scheme solidifying towards the end of

1064
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Speaker 3: the year. There's been some chatter about this over the

1065
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks that, you know, more people study

1066
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Speaker 3: the film, the more they see what the players did,

1067
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Speaker 3: the more they see how Al Golden adjusted. You see

1068
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Speaker 3: and insert players like Jalen Davis who finally got their chance.

1069
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Speaker 3: It's felt like it clicked for Al Golden. So I

1070
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Speaker 3: hope that's part of being in a good spot, that

1071
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, now we have a full understanding. And

1072
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Speaker 3: Duke even said when he talked on the podium that

1073
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Speaker 3: because the season went awry and you have a month

1074
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Speaker 3: extra head start, they feel like they are in a

1075
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Speaker 3: much better spot right now than they have been in

1076
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Speaker 3: years past. And if you remember, they hired Golden like

1077
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Speaker 3: right before the Combine last year, after the National Championship game.

1078
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Speaker 3: So I hope all of that is is working in

1079
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 3: their favor. And you know, I think the question about

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Speaker 3: the adaptation of Duke and how he adapts his process,

1081
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 3: I don't think you can ever argue that Zach hasn't

1082
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 3: been willing to change, whether it's the way that training

1083
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 3: camp is structured, the way that Mini Campus structured, the

1084
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 3: way that they do things to you know, whether it's

1085
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 3: joint practices to not having joint practices, the more padded

1086
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 3: practice like run scheme, all of it. Zach is very

1087
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 3: open to change. I don't think you can say that

1088
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 3: about the other part of the organization, and I do

1089
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 3: agree with you. I felt like there was a little

1090
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 3: bit of a this is what there is, this is

1091
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,959
Speaker 3: their show, this is what they do, this is their show.

1092
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 2: Now.

1093
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 3: I thought that was a little bit interesting. That was

1094
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 3: part one. Let's get to part two. So he had

1095
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 3: made mention on the podium about being open to Dan

1096
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 3: Pitcher calling plays. But you know, just because he's a

1097
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 3: professional and We're glad to see Jay Morris in his back.

1098
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 3: Shout out to jib absolutely, because Jay's a professional. He

1099
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 3: asked Zach for some clarification on those cobbids to start.

1100
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 24: Was it when you're up on the podium and you're talking

1101
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 24: about play calling and pitch you said it was something

1102
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 24: you'd be open to.

1103
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 21: What were you going to be an oc to call

1104
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 21: play somewhere else?

1105
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,919
Speaker 13: Yeah, I just want to do Okay, did that ever?

1106
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,439
Speaker 13: Has that come up with the idea of maybe Dan

1107
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 13: calling plays to keep him here or does that not

1108
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 13: a bit?

1109
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 21: I think we have a good process. People might not

1110
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 21: believe me when I say that we got a really

1111
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 21: good process that we follow. To say that he doesn't

1112
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 21: call plays just isn't true, Like it's that should be,

1113
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 21: that should be the TV show right as you actually

1114
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,959
Speaker 21: get to hear a headset for the entirety of the game,

1115
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 21: and I think people would say, Okay, this is overbolming.

1116
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 21: Clearly there's communication between every single play and every single series.

1117
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 21: What's the difference in you saying and me saying it.

1118
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 21: We're all on the same page trying to get the

1119
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 21: same outcome. So but there there obviously is something to

1120
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 21: going somewhere and be in the primary play caller. I

1121
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 21: understand about all that entails, but he and I co

1122
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 21: exist really well together. He calls a lot of the

1123
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 21: plays that we run. They're just coming out of my

1124
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 21: mouth when I speak it to Joe and and so

1125
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 21: we're on the same page. And I think it's the

1126
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 21: best process that works well for us.

1127
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 13: We didn't subscribe to that TV show. If you want

1128
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 13: to put it out there.

1129
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 21: Get Peyton. I'm sure you know he can do another

1130
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 21: Payton show. And and uh, that's the next thing is

1131
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 21: under the headset, maybe under the headset, and you can

1132
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 21: really go a whole show of coaches talking to coaches,

1133
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 21: and coaches talking to quarterbacks, and quarterbacks telling coaches in

1134
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 21: the huddle shut up even though the coach can't hear you.

1135
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 21: I just want to talk to my guys. So that

1136
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 21: that's the next show.

1137
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 13: Do you think that's an advantage to the headman being

1138
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 13: a guy calling the places?

1139
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 2: I mean you think that's an advantage.

1140
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 21: Maybe, oh, Jeff uh? I mean yes for us from

1141
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 21: from a continuity standpoint, yes, because the scheme doesn't change

1142
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 21: other teams. The head coach doesn't call the plays when

1143
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 21: the coordinators do it, and they've had a lot of success.

1144
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 21: So it's just what fits your team, what fits the

1145
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 21: coaches you have, the players you have. Everywhere is a

1146
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 21: little bit different for us. I feel like this is

1147
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 21: what fits us best.

1148
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 3: It's the biggest thing I'll push back on. I knew

1149
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 3: you were gonna love this, and I knew you were

1150
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 3: gonna love it.

1151
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 2: It's the biggest thing I'll push back on because it's

1152
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 2: been like this from the start. And yes, there are

1153
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 2: times where the offense is elite and the offense is

1154
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 2: operating at a high level, but there are also times

1155
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 2: that this offense gets disjointed. They disappear at times during games.

1156
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 2: There is constantly, constantly struggles with getting the play in

1157
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 2: late burning timeouts. You see as it goes on, more

1158
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 2: visible frustration from Joe to Zach on the field. I

1159
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 2: just I think from start to finish, at times it's clunky,

1160
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 2: and he goes back to the word continuity, and that's

1161
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: the main reason he's gonna continue to call plays while

1162
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 2: also uh praising Dan Pitcher and his role. And my

1163
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 2: question is, and my pushback to that would be, if

1164
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 2: Dan Pitcher is already so involved day to day play

1165
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 2: to play series, the series and the in the game

1166
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 2: plan already, what would be the big change in the

1167
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 2: continuity of Dan Pitcher being the one to call the

1168
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 2: plays and Zach being the one to give the input.

1169
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 2: I'll always that will be one of my bigger pushing points,

1170
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 2: especially now that that you're seeing this many years of

1171
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 2: coming short in the playoffs. And I get it, Joe's

1172
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 2: been out, defense has been atrocious, different quarterbacks calling different

1173
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 2: I get all of that, and I commend them for

1174
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 2: adjusting on the fly. I just to me, going into

1175
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 2: this offseason, I wish there would have been a little

1176
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 2: bit more conversation of Okay, we're going to run this back,

1177
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: but Dan Pitcher is going to be the primary caller. Zach,

1178
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 2: you're gonna focus on the endgame. You're gonna have a

1179
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 2: say in obviously the plays and when to use the timeouts,

1180
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 2: but float around the sideline a little more.

1181
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 3: That's how I would have been happiest I have said,

1182
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 3: and I stand by. I think there are parts of

1183
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 3: the process which Zach references as being really good. I

1184
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 3: think there are parts of the process that can be

1185
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 3: cleaned up. There were some pre snap penalties, there were

1186
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 3: some delay of games, there were some headset issues. Whatever

1187
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 3: it is, like, I think that needs to be cleaned up,

1188
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 3: and maybe the solution to it is someone else's the

1189
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 3: person calling the plays. And I think the hesitation of

1190
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 3: saying it's an advantage. I thought that was an interesting,

1191
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,439
Speaker 3: you know, kind of back and forth with Jeff Hobson there.

1192
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 3: But I will also say this, I just talked about

1193
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 3: how willing Zach Taylor is to change and how open

1194
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 3: he is to adaptation. He has brought in guys from

1195
01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 3: external sources on offense to change his run game, to

1196
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 3: change some of his concepts. With a guy like Justin Riscotti,

1197
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 3: who I continue to pound the table for this is

1198
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 3: a guy who has not been afraid to change, but

1199
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 3: for this he will not. And so that makes me

1200
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 3: feel like maybe it really isn't a big deal if

1201
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 3: he's willing to change everything else, but he doesn't feel

1202
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 3: the need to change this either. It's a massive blind spot,

1203
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 3: and I don't think it is because of the results.

1204
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 3: Although you're right there are issues that need to be

1205
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 3: worked out, and are two they happen too frequently, And

1206
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 3: the other part is like, is this really that big

1207
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 3: of a deal If it's the one thing he's doesn't

1208
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 3: feel like is worthy of a change.

1209
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 2: And I think there's a pride sense to it as well.

1210
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 2: Sure like I think part of it. Look, I that's

1211
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 2: my job. I'm gonna do that, because, as you mentioned,

1212
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 2: he's been more than willing in other areas to say,

1213
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 2: let's get help here, let's get help here, But always

1214
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 2: when it comes to the play calling or any pushback

1215
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 2: we've seen, whether in season or I'm the play caller.

1216
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 2: And again, that might be his confidence, that be his

1217
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 2: comfort level, or that might be him saying, I'm that's

1218
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 2: not going to change. That's a pride thing too.

1219
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 3: I'll push back on that. I will say he's almost

1220
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 3: always said it's collaborative. He's never been like, this is me,

1221
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 3: this is my job, this is what I do. He's

1222
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 3: framed it in the sense of I'm the guy who

1223
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 3: says it to Joe's ear. Everybody else is calling the plays,

1224
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 3: and at one point said, people who think Pitch doesn't

1225
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 3: call doesn't call plays, that's not true. He calls a

1226
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 3: lot of the plays. So maybe it's a nothing burger.

1227
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, I think, But.

1228
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 3: What I would love to push back on I would

1229
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 3: love to ask Joe Burrow about this. I would love

1230
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 3: to get more of Okay, let's let's dig deeper into

1231
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 3: the under the headset idea for a TV show. Let's

1232
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 3: go through some scenarios. Why do you have to burn

1233
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 3: a time out in your first drive of the third

1234
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 3: quarter in this game? Why did this play call not

1235
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 3: get incorrectly? What the issue with this formation? Like those

1236
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 3: little things? And I would hope that that's all being

1237
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 3: talked about over the course of the office, because it

1238
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 3: felt like it was more prevalent this past season than

1239
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 3: in years past.

1240
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 2: It felt like it happened a very It happened more

1241
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 2: so than then we've seen in years pa.

1242
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 3: And with the defense as bad as it is, that

1243
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 3: one five yard penalty that can derail a drive and

1244
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 3: they could lose.

1245
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 2: You a football game. Correct, Yeah, like you said, especially

1246
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 2: because of the holes on the defensive side. Before we

1247
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 2: get to our talkbacks today, John has been waiting on

1248
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 2: hold to get through to us. Let's do that and

1249
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 2: then we'll get to our talkbacks.

1250
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 5: Hey John, good afternoon, fellas.

1251
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 2: How are you good? How are you good?

1252
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 25: We're hanging in there. I just want to sprinkle on

1253
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 25: my corn flakes. Whatever Duke Ploban sprinks sprinkles on his

1254
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 25: corn flakes, because man, some of that stuff to lose

1255
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 25: your all obviously, you know, talking about things we.

1256
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 4: Already know about.

1257
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 25: Yeah, you need players in their first contract to be

1258
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 25: PRODUCTI well, you're the guy who drafted them. Sure, you

1259
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 25: know it's your responsibility. And if he thinks he has

1260
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 25: a Super Bowl loster, why bring back the entire coaching staff.

1261
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 25: I mean it went six and eleven, one and eight

1262
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 25: with Joe Flacco. Of course five and three with Joe

1263
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 25: Burrow on the center.

1264
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 5: So obviously there's a.

1265
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 25: Major difference in the quarterbacks. But you know, you bring

1266
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 25: back the entire coaching staff for a team that you

1267
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 25: think is Super Bowl ready and obviously on the defensive

1268
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 25: side of the ball, not even close. But you know,

1269
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 25: the thing that's frustrating, guys is we do this in

1270
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 25: our everyday life, right Like, say we're going to Walmart

1271
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 25: or Target and we have twelve things we want to

1272
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 25: pick up. I know, when I walk into the store,

1273
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 25: I'll go get the six things I know where they

1274
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 25: are that I get all the time. The staples, you know,

1275
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 25: the paper powls and all that stuff. The other six things,

1276
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 25: the missus wants to make pizza tonight, so I gotta

1277
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 25: go find pizza.

1278
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 2: Dell, where is that thing? Whatever?

1279
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 25: Why don't the Bengals take care business quicker? Dalton Reiser

1280
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 25: is the most frustrating part. He wants to stay in Cincinnati.

1281
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 25: He did a very very good job. I still maintain

1282
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 25: if he had been in camp early. Joe Burrow doesn't

1283
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 25: get hurt last year because he was the one who

1284
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 25: got beat by Eric Armstead and he had just barely

1285
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 25: done in camp. Take care of that here, Chase Brown,

1286
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 25: take here of those things. So when you get the

1287
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 25: free agency, you're ready to go and know, well, we

1288
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 25: don't need a guard.

1289
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 2: We're pretty solid at guard.

1290
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 25: We can go attack other areas that that's really the

1291
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 25: frustrating price.

1292
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 7: They're not the only team.

1293
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 4: That does that.

1294
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 25: I mean a lot of teams do it, but that

1295
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 25: is really frustrating.

1296
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 2: Yeah did we lose John Oh yeah?

1297
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 2: I and I thought too, like the the comments from

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01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 2: Duke Tobin yesterday, Like we didn't. We didn't play the

1300
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 2: comments themselves, but Duke Tobin used the call yesterday. He's

1301
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 2: got decisions to make, and we've got decisions to make.

1302
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 2: He's a guy we like a lot. That to me

1303
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 2: is make it. Make it so it's an easy decision

1304
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 2: for Dalton Reisner. He's already talked about liking it here

1305
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. Make him the offer that he can't say no,

1306
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 2: that he signs on the dotted line. I was a

1307
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 2: little taken back to to hear the he's got decisions

1308
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 2: to make and we've got decisions to make. That left

1309
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 2: me with a little bit of concern.

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01:06:56,560 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 3: I would think I read that as Dalton Rise is

1311
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 3: going to make sure that the Bengals offer he gets

1312
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 3: is not the only offer he gets, which is he

1313
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 3: just had one of the best seasons of his career.

1314
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 3: The Bengals are probably not trying to pay him the

1315
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 3: top flight offer like you're saying, and so he's going

1316
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 3: to try to go out in free agency and say, okay,

1317
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 3: well the Broncos are offering me this, or the Chargers

1318
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 3: are offering me this. Can you guys meet this'. That's

1319
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 3: how I view what's going on right now.

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01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 25: Yeah, I would just hopefully be more proactive and say,

1322
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 25: sure's what the market's going to be, although, like you said, Austin,

1323
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:35,479
Speaker 25: we don't know what the market's going to be because

1324
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 25: the salary caps up over three hundred million, but you know,

1325
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 25: two years twelve million dollars, two years fourteen million dollars.

1326
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 25: Even if it's a slight overpay, you have that position solidified.

1327
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 25: You get Dealing Fairchild at the left guard position. You

1328
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 25: feel pretty solid there and you go from there to

1329
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 25: build other parts of the offensive line. I mean, you

1330
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 25: have the best quarterback in football. I think it makes

1331
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 25: sense to protect him. He even talked about it in

1332
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 25: the final six games that this is the best the

1333
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 25: offensive a line has played in front of him since

1334
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 25: he's been here. That's a good sign.

1335
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 2: So you know, keep it going in that direction. Yeah, no,

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01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 2: I think that's fair. Thanks fellas, John, We appreciate you.

1337
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 2: Have a great day you too, Yeah, I think and

1338
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,679
Speaker 2: again to your point, I think that is an area

1339
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 2: that Dalton riisemen would try to take advantage of. Can

1340
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 2: the Bengals do anything to expedite that process to just

1341
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 2: get this done, get it in the stable and move

1342
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 2: on to the next item in order of business in

1343
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 2: the offseason. Sure your talkbacks, this show is flying by

1344
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 2: right now. Your talkbacks are everybody else is talking to us. Yeah,

1345
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 2: I'm fresh right now. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1346
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:45,799
Speaker 26: Ali singles like ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, It's.

1347
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 4: That time for talkbacks.

1348
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 27: Press the microphone and record your message for Austin in tone,

1349
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 27: please keep it clean and don't be mean and.

1350
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,759
Speaker 22: A sprinkle sprinkled drip drifts.

1351
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 2: It's that time with talkbacks.

1352
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 27: It's our favorite parter scene C three sixty. So Austin, buddy,

1353
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 27: play those buck backs on your screen and please trying

1354
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 27: out to cybotage.

1355
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 2: Well, here we go. Then the Wednesday edition your talkbacks

1356
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1357
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 3: Are you going to be watching the kicker workouts in

1358
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 3: the combine at all?

1359
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 2: Or I'm gonna I'm gonna skip that one. Okay, I

1360
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 2: will skip the kicker workouts. Well you if they televise them,

1361
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 2: I'll watch them. I mean more so, I'm just I'm

1362
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 2: so confident in what's already at place here, I don't

1363
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 2: need to see any kickers. Happy hump Day TV fifteen.

1364
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 28: Audie and all you wonderful listeners out there, you know

1365
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 28: the definition of all in completely, commit it, dedicate it,

1366
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 28: and poker turns aft all your chips in.

1367
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 4: The middle of the table.

1368
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 29: And Duke Covid says that's franchise always goes all in.

1369
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 8: We'll get the for breeze out boys, because that's what

1370
01:09:58,720 --> 01:09:59,600
Speaker 8: I like BS to me.

1371
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like one of the things that I

1372
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 2: saw circulating more than anything else was that comment from

1373
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 2: Duke Tobin that they're always all in.

1374
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 30: It's a bird, it's a plane, malp just Tony Pike

1375
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 30: falling back to earth.

1376
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 4: Dang man.

1377
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 5: Wow.

1378
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 2: For what it's worth.

1379
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 3: According to Joe Lenardi, the Bearcats did not move out

1380
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 3: of the next four out.

1381
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 2: Let them know, Let them know.

1382
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 31: Did you know that Notre Dame has not lost the

1383
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:39,799
Speaker 31: game that bad in basketball? The last time that happened

1384
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 31: was eighteen ninety eight that they lost that bad at

1385
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 31: home under that.

1386
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:45,719
Speaker 4: Of the day.

1387
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that game last night on their own floor

1388
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 2: for Duke to walk in to Notre Dame. They were

1389
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 2: up fifty four to twenty two at half. They cruised

1390
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 2: to a one hundred to fifty six win on the

1391
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 2: road at once Proud Austin Notre Dame.

1392
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 32: It's Wednesday, boys, and you know what that means that

1393
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 32: timble ball boys are back. We've had a couple of

1394
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:13,080
Speaker 32: weeks in a row where've been close, but not quite there.

1395
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 32: Joey McElroy was so close last week. We were right

1396
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 32: about Scotty. He's terrible on Thursday. But that's just not enough.

1397
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:24,719
Speaker 32: I'm cognizant coming into the Cognizant Classic that we must

1398
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 32: deliver this week. So this week we're doubling down with

1399
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 32: a DBB special right here, right now, let's go.

1400
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 2: Well, this should be good.

1401
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:37,480
Speaker 4: It's lunchtime.

1402
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 32: So what's on the menu? A DBB A double Brooks

1403
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 32: Burger Daniel Berger and Brooks Keopka both going off at

1404
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 32: thirty to one. These are two guys who both need

1405
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 32: to make a statement this week. It's a midfield, it's

1406
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 32: a mid tournament, it's a mid area. These two should dominate.

1407
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 32: Brooks has to make it happen. Hometown kid, he lives

1408
01:11:58,520 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 32: ten minutes away from this course.

1409
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 4: Even if he.

1410
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 32: Plays twelve holes, he at least knows the first twelve.

1411
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 32: Grab these guys thirty to one, let's go.

1412
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 2: I like that I can get behind Brooks Koepka.

1413
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 30: You know, some days I swear this football fan base

1414
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 30: is toxic because like dude talked a bunch of words

1415
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 30: salad yesterday, as he always does, and you know what,

1416
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 30: if you want to listen to it, you can, but

1417
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 30: like everybody'd be reading into it and saying stuff.

1418
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,520
Speaker 7: But it's like you have no idea.

1419
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:28,759
Speaker 3: What word salad? Beans?

1420
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 7: You just don't know.

1421
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 30: You can't say, ah, they low ball, doult riiser. You

1422
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 30: don't know it's word salad. So either eating or don't.

1423
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 2: Gosh.

1424
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 30: Also, what are you all thoughts on beans? Like beans

1425
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 30: that you eat like pinto, black beans, refried beans? Do

1426
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 30: we like them in any capacity? My guest is Tony

1427
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 30: no Austin maybe depending on the thing. I like him personally,

1428
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 30: high end protein, high in fiber, but gosh, they make

1429
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 30: you fart. So I want to beat a radio boost

1430
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 30: with one of you after just having some, but gosh, chilly.

1431
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 7: Different things you can think of with beans refried beans.

1432
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:08,560
Speaker 33: That makes the restaurant dolsham.

1433
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:10,759
Speaker 2: You don't have to worry about me on that one, Johnny.

1434
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 2: I do not eat beans, beans, beans the magical fruit.

1435
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 2: The more you eat, the more you toot.

1436
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 22: No.

1437
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 3: I like black beans occasionally, refried beans, but not often,

1438
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 3: and I absolutely despise pento beans.

1439
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:31,600
Speaker 17: Tone look Audie Leroy down here, his son is owner. Yeah, No,

1440
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 17: I'm not I'm a fament damn Flyers, rolling.

1441
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 2: Red Hawks, rolling Billy can or a Billy can't.

1442
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 31: I don't know.

1443
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,520
Speaker 21: Can anybody tell you what Duke Tobin's talking about?

1444
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 2: Makes no sense to me what he says. And Zach

1445
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 2: Keaylor still up there, grin like a possum. Come on,

1446
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 2: get to the other boys.

1447
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:02,520
Speaker 34: In honor of twenty ninth days until opening. You're obscure.

1448
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 34: Reds are Jose of Vado, Mike Stanton.

1449
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 2: M that's forgot about Mike Stanton? John Carlos? Was that

1450
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 2: John Carlo before he switched to Jean Carlo.

1451
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,839
Speaker 3: Well, yes, this is these are two different Mike Stantons.

1452
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 3: But you're right, yes, okay.

1453
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 26: Didn't we fall for that talk last season? Rep in

1454
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 26: the city out here, Sonny hot On, what up?

1455
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 5: Dude?

1456
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, not doing this.

1457
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 26: Again, man, not hitting that repeat button which you're talking

1458
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 26: like this. I'm not buying none of that stuff he's saying.

1459
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 26: Prove me wrong, front office, man. It is frustrating being

1460
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 26: a Bengals fan sometimes, especially hearing in that guy. Hey

1461
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 26: the Bearcats, Hey yo, you won four straight. It's all good.

1462
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 26: Just finished season off strong, win three, still two in

1463
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 26: the Big twelve tournament and then we can talk.

1464
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 2: Yep, yep. That's why I immediately went to last night.

1465
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 2: The mental illness is still alive and kicking inside of me.

1466
01:14:56,000 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 3: I respect Ronnie ron for starting with a he is

1467
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:04,679
Speaker 3: a cold open, then his intro, then his thoughts.

1468
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 2: Just listen to it again.

1469
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 7: Didn't we fall for that talk? Last season?

1470
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 2: Wrap in a City out here?

1471
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,919
Speaker 26: Sonny hots On, what Updue?

1472
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 3: I mean the creative excellence very well put. The guy

1473
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 3: just gets it.

1474
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 15: James Rapine brutally hepe mogged by Tony Pike, Austin.

1475
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 28: Omore brutally framed Mogs Giga, Chad Brenda.

1476
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 35: I ordered chicken nuggets and catch up from McDonald's for

1477
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 35: lunch today, I'm Tony Pike Max saying.

1478
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 2: And then whenever I got back to work, I did work.

1479
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 3: I turned on the All twenty two so I could

1480
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 3: Austin Max. We might need somebody to because I don't

1481
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:51,639
Speaker 3: fully explain this, and I'm chronically online, I don't fully

1482
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 3: understand it.

1483
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:53,440
Speaker 2: We might need an explanation.

1484
01:15:54,280 --> 01:16:00,679
Speaker 36: Hi, guys, Hey swornsby guy. Eh, you know, I remember

1485
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,719
Speaker 36: back last year, I think it was you guys were

1486
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 36: really talking that guy up. And then I thought he

1487
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 36: was a crappy quarterback. Really, I just I just didn't

1488
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 36: think Cincinnati was going to get anywhere. Uh they did,

1489
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:18,440
Speaker 36: truthfully with him. So but you know that's a mentality.

1490
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 36: So uh yeah, it doesn't make me mad, just kind

1491
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 36: of sad.

1492
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 2: Have a good Yeah, I'm sad as well. I believed

1493
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 2: in that.

1494
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 29: Did everybody have a cartoon man man quinbia attentions? I do,

1495
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 29: and I have a stated re union dress. But however,

1496
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 29: since this nast's hitting week, I do have a state

1497
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 29: of the onion address and dash skyline hitty unions. You're

1498
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 29: pretty down tasty on your three way, four way, five way?

1499
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 4: Somebody say, very way?

1500
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 2: Can it bell right outside of tasty on? Kyle J. French,

1501
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 2: Robert guess it's going. They're all in, all right man,

1502
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 2: well done?

1503
01:16:55,320 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 22: Roun DC. Is it just me or does Duke Tobin

1504
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 22: sound like Mike Brown's love child? I mean they have

1505
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 22: the same tone, inflection, excitement, et cetera.

1506
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 3: I've been saying this for years. I know our guy

1507
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 3: Ryan tweeted this at me earlier. I think when you

1508
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 3: work with someone closely for thirty years, you start to

1509
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 3: pick up on things, things that they do and things

1510
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 3: that they say, and the app You're exactly right, tone, inflection,

1511
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 3: all of it is nearly spot on too, Mike Brown.

1512
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 33: Are we sure Duke Tobin knows that you can sack

1513
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 33: the quarterback on first and second down, not just third down?

1514
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 37: Do we think that Duke really realizes that because he

1515
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 37: wouldn't got Flacco fleckhole did not equal Leans. Just wonder

1516
01:17:58,960 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 37: it's a good point.

1517
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 2: Dan Pitcher, speaking at the Combine today, says the Bengals

1518
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 2: would love to have Joe flaccoback. That's fine.

1519
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 3: Flacco was one in eight a quarterback through a Brootle

1520
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,600
Speaker 3: told me that that's not a big swing through a

1521
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 3: Burrudal pick six against the New England Patriots. I mean,

1522
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:17,720
Speaker 3: he was awesome against the Steelers, but he threw the

1523
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 3: ball to Chase thirty five times. I have no problem

1524
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 3: with bringing Flacco back. He was not the reason they

1525
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 3: were one and eight, but they were also one and eight.

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01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 17: Yes, yes, if you play with fire, you will get burnt,

1527
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 17: but you can't cook without it. This guy is baking

1528
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 17: in excuses and his big pat on it back is

1529
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,800
Speaker 17: was bringing Joe Flacco here. Yes, he re energized the offense. Yes,

1530
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 17: it did bring energy. Yes, it did give us hope,

1531
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 17: but it resulted in one win. If that is his

1532
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 17: big success and that is his measure of success, we're

1533
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 17: in more trouble than we thought.

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01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 2: Boys. Can you play the start of that again? That

1535
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 2: line was kind of fire.

1536
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 17: Yes, yes, if you play with fire, you will get burnt,

1537
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 17: but you can't cook.

1538
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 2: How about that? I should play with fire. You could

1539
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 2: get burnt, but you can't cook. My goodness, Lee the

1540
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 2: pizza dude bringing in goodness. While we are on the

1541
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 2: topic of backup quarterbacks, this is news emanating from the

1542
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 2: combine as we speak, Carolina has been getting calls about

1543
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:29,719
Speaker 2: Andy Dalton as a potential trade candidate. According to sources

1544
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 2: that tell Adam Schefter, I would take Andy Dalton in

1545
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 2: a heartbeat as the backup to Joe Burrow over Joe Flacco. Yes,

1546
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 2: what say you? I'll take Flacco.

1547
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 28: Good afternoon, gentlemen. After hearing Duke Hobn talk, two things

1548
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 28: come to mind. One is he related to Mike Brown

1549
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:56,719
Speaker 28: more than I realized, because they really sound a lot alike.

1550
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 28: And number two, it's obvious that we really hoped that

1551
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 28: one of these third tier pre agents that they sign

1552
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 28: has a heck of a season for us.

1553
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:09,560
Speaker 2: So I got guys, I have a good one, thank you.

1554
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 16: So Duke Tobin pretty much confirmed business as usual this

1555
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 16: offseason for the Bengals. Can't try to make any big

1556
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 16: moves because there's a chance they might fail. Good attitude there,

1557
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 16: try not to lose rather than actually go out and win.

1558
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 16: Don't need to do a restructure because they have what

1559
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 16: they need to go out and do what they want,

1560
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 16: which is probably just Tier three and Tier four guys.

1561
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 16: And laughing at the idea of attack and trade. Yep,

1562
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 16: it's the same pig, just another shade of lipstick.

1563
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 3: Wow, our guy Lance McAllister. Also, you know, I brought

1564
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 3: a great point. I like Duke and I think the

1565
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:50,680
Speaker 3: Bengals have done some good things. I don't believe in

1566
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 3: Duke Tobin. And here's a big reason why. Twenty four

1567
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:58,719
Speaker 3: teams the Bengals have built under the direction of Duke Tobin.

1568
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:02,679
Speaker 3: That's right, winning percentage, that's right, that's one eighty five,

1569
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 3: one ninety nine and four. That in good SPONGEBA only

1570
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 3: eleven winning seasons Patrick out of those twenty four teams,

1571
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 3: just two playoff appearances in the last decade.

1572
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:14,719
Speaker 2: That ain't good. Sandy, Why.

1573
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:19,759
Speaker 3: Why mister Crabs should I believe in Duke Tobin?

1574
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:21,480
Speaker 2: I don't think you ever could Plankton.

1575
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 34: Austin Tony.

1576
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 5: It's Ian.

1577
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:31,679
Speaker 33: On the Growler podcast last night, they mentioned the lack

1578
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 33: of free agent interior d line pickups that could make

1579
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 33: a difference.

1580
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 4: That has me really worried.

1581
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 33: And can they really pick up on the free market?

1582
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:47,719
Speaker 33: Are there areas that could offset that in balance?

1583
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 2: What is your opinion? I think there is, But I

1584
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 2: think that reason alone is why we draw to the

1585
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 2: idea more and more of Are there possible trades out

1586
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 2: there that work as well?

1587
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 3: You know, Duke Tobin said that you got to be

1588
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 3: able to sack the quarterback, but you got to stop

1589
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 3: the run so you can get the third down so

1590
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:10,560
Speaker 3: you can sack the quarterback. If you were holding a

1591
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 3: weapon too my head right now and asking me what

1592
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 3: position the Bengals are going to take at number ten,

1593
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 3: I would say defensive tackle. And the reason for that

1594
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,759
Speaker 3: being what you just said. There's not a very big class.

1595
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 3: Duke doesn't seem like he's going to be willing to

1596
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 3: trade picks for one and not a big free agent class.

1597
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 3: And I don't know that they're going to be able

1598
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 3: to trade back or want to trade back number ten

1599
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 3: to me right now, it smells like a reach for

1600
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:37,799
Speaker 3: a detackle.

1601
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 34: A great idea for the headset TV idea. They could

1602
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 34: do something that NASCAR does called radioactive, where the entire

1603
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:57,440
Speaker 34: show is based on the in the car radio between spotters,

1604
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 34: the crew chief, and the driver. So I think that'd

1605
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 34: be a pretty cool idea of the NFL, or even

1606
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 34: like Fox nineteen locally to keep going.

1607
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 2: Then they would just get super paranoid about other teams

1608
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 2: listening and getting getting their calls and stealing them that way.

1609
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say this, the NFL regulates those radios

1610
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 3: like you would not believe, Like it's it's difficult to

1611
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 3: get involved with it. Now, maybe if you did it

1612
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 3: in the un verse of how it works, because at

1613
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 3: the fifteen second mark, right, the play clock cuts off

1614
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 3: from the helmet, right, So if you could do it

1615
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 3: up until the play call begins, so and then at

1616
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:34,680
Speaker 3: fifteen seconds you hear what else is going on?

1617
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:35,640
Speaker 2: Right?

1618
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 3: So after it cuts off, you hear you know, Duke,

1619
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 3: or you hear Zach saying to Dan Pitcher, Okay, what

1620
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 3: if if we get sacked here?

1621
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,719
Speaker 2: What do you like or what if we're a yard short?

1622
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 2: What are you going to? You know that stuff that

1623
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 2: maybe you don't hear.

1624
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 38: Yeah, Gid Turvin does a good job talking about all

1625
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 38: the good draft picks. He don't mention the bad draft

1626
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 38: picks too much. Yeah, I've I'm with maybe a different

1627
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:08,680
Speaker 38: play caller, but like you guys said, it seems like

1628
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 38: Zach Taylor, he's pretty stuck on that. Yeah, I think

1629
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:17,719
Speaker 38: you see should win their next to shout out to Dayton, come.

1630
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 2: On, come on with the wind chimes in the background.

1631
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 39: Hello, Hello, calling talkbacks so I can hear my voice

1632
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 39: on the radio anyway. You know, I spend in that

1633
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 39: ignortinateort a lot of time on Facebook reels and I

1634
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 39: keep saying and hearing the Canadians just bellyaching about loosing

1635
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 39: the gold medal. I was lost in the quarterfinals, in

1636
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 39: the semi finals. How about being professional about it?

1637
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 35: Okay, Hey fellas, Happy hump day. Long time, no talkback.

1638
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 35: You know, we're in an underrated part of the sports calendar.

1639
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 35: Just coming up a week or so from now. We

1640
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:03,839
Speaker 35: have last season just about in full swing, March madness

1641
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 35: creeping up on US conference tournaments. First, of course, NFL

1642
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 35: free agency coming up in March, and then of course

1643
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 35: Red's opening Day in late March. Just got my tickets.

1644
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 35: Stoked to be going back. Speaking up, Are you guys

1645
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 35: doing the smoke Justice show blocking a bridge this year?

1646
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 2: I don't know if we're allowed to disclose. I know

1647
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 2: we do have plans for opening day, I don't know

1648
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 2: if we're allowed to disclose them yet.

1649
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 3: I would say it might be a safe bet. What

1650
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 3: you just mentioned, don't forget the World Baseball Classic.

1651
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 2: That's right, w C.

1652
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 3: I told Tarn last week, if we could get through,

1653
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 3: you know, last week, we'd be home free for a

1654
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 3: little while, scouting Combine, World Baseball Classic conference tournaments, March

1655
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 3: mad to spring training, free agency, all that stuff happening.

1656
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 2: So you're saying we're back.

1657
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 3: It feels that way. We may be back, a block

1658
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 3: of a bridge away, we're all the way back. I

1659
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 3: think it's a safe bet.

1660
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 2: Oh, now you're going to be making squid word speak

1661
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 2: of the devil and he shallow peer.

1662
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 29: Johnny As always hits the nail on the head.

1663
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 6: This fan base is not just toxic, it's p H

1664
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 6: one level acidic and toxic.

1665
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 30: Stop parsing words, Stop picking apart sentences.

1666
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 2: Let's just move forward and cheer for the team.

1667
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 3: Well, it's uh, part of what we part of what

1668
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 3: we do here. Part of the jobs.

1669
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 2: Are pento beans? You one cultured swine?

1670
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:38,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, dummy, they're refried. They're a lot better when they're refried,

1671
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:41,759
Speaker 3: not that raw pinto out of the jar. That's awful.

1672
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 3: Do you ever get you ever get pento at your Chipotle?

1673
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 3: I don't trust that person. Only Pento I know is

1674
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 3: Neville Pento.

1675
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 40: Yeah, Wednesday afternoon, gentlemen, Thank you you too. It might

1676
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 40: be too late for today's talk.

1677
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 36: That all in come in.

1678
01:26:58,439 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 5: You have context.

1679
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 40: Somebody goes swimming at.

1680
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 29: The local pool.

1681
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 40: Well, all in in the shallow wind really means something

1682
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:09,839
Speaker 40: different than all in in the deep.

1683
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 2: End point, and uh, we're in.

1684
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:14,600
Speaker 5: I hope we are all in.

1685
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:17,639
Speaker 2: That is an excellent analogy.

1686
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 15: This.

1687
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 3: I don't have my life jacket on. I didn't think

1688
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 3: we'd be getting that deep. This is like, this has

1689
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 3: been some of the most profound stuff today on talk

1690
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:27,439
Speaker 3: about it and seeing this is the stuff that Johnny

1691
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:29,640
Speaker 3: from out Healthy and Jeff and Virginia are trying to

1692
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 3: encourage us not to do.

1693
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 6: I don't understand has sure ever been a better test

1694
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 6: off rone booster than eugenics. It's got me lifting like

1695
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:43,679
Speaker 6: I'm playing for coach Carter again.

1696
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 36: Oh.

1697
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 2: Bill, been good to hear from Bill.

1698
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 3: I wish I wish Bill would have been here last

1699
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 3: week to comment on Mick Cronole.

1700
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 2: All right, we're done. Have there ever been a coach? Hey, Jarah,

1701
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 2: we're a bit a better. That's not good. Oh, I'm

1702
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:05,799
Speaker 2: gonna call it now. We got one segment when we return,

1703
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:10,799
Speaker 2: and then segment Man and then the red brick legacies

1704
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 2: in the building when we come back. Are we gonna

1705
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 2: do twenty nine days till opening days? You're darn right,

1706
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 2: twenty nine days until opening Day between the Reds and

1707
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 2: the Boston Red Sox. That will finish Hour two. Kyle Decker,

1708
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 2: we'll talk all things Miami RedHawks to kick off our

1709
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 2: number three right here on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

1710
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 20: WCKY Cincinnati and iHeartRadio Station Guaranteed Human ESPN fifteen thirty.

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01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:44,719
Speaker 7: I heard radio. Okay, show a hands hoo'sig sucks?

1712
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:47,719
Speaker 1: You found Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

1713
01:28:55,760 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 2: Welcome back, Ciny three to sixty. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 2: Sports Station. A Wednesday tradition that I know we are

1715
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 2: looking forward to more and more Austin as we go

1716
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 2: is the Wednesday visits from our friends at Dorothy Lane Market.

1717
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 2: They they've not missed in one of their Thursday food

1718
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 2: deliveries yet. How about today you want to talk about

1719
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:23,799
Speaker 2: up in the game? Oh, my goodness, meat and cheese, lasagna,

1720
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 2: come on, Italian meatballs, come on, Tierra missule yep?

1721
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 3: How salad? What else am I forgetting? I think it's

1722
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 3: called focasha. I had no idea how to pronounce it all.

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01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:37,720
Speaker 3: I'm not even sure if I said that correctly. You

1724
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:39,559
Speaker 3: want to talk about I mean, the Olympics are over.

1725
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 3: They were just in Italy. Well, Italy came to us

1726
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 3: today with the way that Dorothy Lane Market provided all

1727
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 3: those things. The meatballs were fantastic. Do you know the

1728
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:52,720
Speaker 3: usd A prime meat grind and mild Italian sausages cooked

1729
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 3: the perfection with Marinara sauce.

1730
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 2: Lord at Mercy They're they're big, and I was, I

1731
01:29:58,200 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 2: was speaking with some of them today that the push

1732
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:03,560
Speaker 2: about made right here. That's key here, all right. This

1733
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:07,560
Speaker 2: isn't being brought in somewhere else. This is made in

1734
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 2: store by Dorothy Lane Market stately location as a large

1735
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 2: in store kitchen where they make the meals from scratch,

1736
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 2: and you could really taste that today. I'm a big

1737
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:21,639
Speaker 2: lasagna guy, and you sense that a little bit today

1738
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 2: with the lasagna and the meatballs. Yeah.

1739
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:26,679
Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, the fact that you willingly

1740
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 3: ate something. I'll go lasagna and I'll go eatballs any

1741
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 3: day of the week. Yeah, it was perfect for you today.

1742
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 3: And by the way, this sort of gourmet meal you

1743
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 3: can just take away. It's called the gourmet takeaway at

1744
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 3: Dorothy Lane Market. Where you walk in they've made it,

1745
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:43,560
Speaker 3: you take it home, you heat it up, you eat it,

1746
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 3: and you get to lick your lips, just like we

1747
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 3: did today.

1748
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 2: I often wondered, when thinking about our friends at Dorothy

1749
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 2: Lane Market, if Wally Post what he would have thought

1750
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 2: of Dorothy Lane Market. You know, back in nineteen forty

1751
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 2: nine he donned the number twenty nine for the Cincinnati Reds.

1752
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,720
Speaker 2: I think guys like Pinky Jurgensen, Oh, how could you not,

1753
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:06,840
Speaker 2: clyde Volmer, Hank Sour, what would they have thought of

1754
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 2: Dorothy Lane Market. It'd be all over that twenty nine

1755
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 2: days away from opening day, of course, twenty nine right now,

1756
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 2: manned by the leadoff hitter for the Cincinnati Reds. That

1757
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 2: is one T. J. Friedel.

1758
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 3: I mean there's been some. I mean there's a who's

1759
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 3: who of guys to wear number twenty nine.

1760
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 2: For the Reds.

1761
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 3: Brandon Finnigan begin again. Brandon Finnegan, who was a horrible player.

1762
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:34,599
Speaker 3: Brian Paania, who was one of the most lovable Reds

1763
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 3: of all time. Always confused how he spelled his name.

1764
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 3: He kind of looked. He always reminded me of Winnie

1765
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 3: the Pooh. He just had that little belly out there

1766
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 3: and just a joyous fella. What about Ryan Hannigan? Ryan

1767
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:46,720
Speaker 3: Hannigan on the opposite hand, he always looked like he

1768
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 3: had just he hadn't washed his hair and wings. He

1769
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 3: looked like he hadn't showered in months. But that dude

1770
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 3: could He could flat out catch a couple of no

1771
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:57,920
Speaker 3: hitters from Homer Bailey didn't wasn't much of a threat

1772
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:01,719
Speaker 3: with the uh with the bat, his hand, good defensive catchup,

1773
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 3: but was a great catcher for some really good pitching

1774
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 3: staffs for the red What about Bret Boone?

1775
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 2: You beat me to it. Brett Boone.

1776
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 3: What about Cole's brother, Greg Swindel. I didn't realize they

1777
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:19,760
Speaker 3: were brothers. How could we forget our guy, the Big

1778
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:24,880
Speaker 3: two nine oh Man, the Tracer, Tracy Jones in eighty six,

1779
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 3: eighty seven, and eighty eight for the Reds, Alex Travino,

1780
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 3: a fan favorite, Buddy Dave Collins, Buddy Bradford, the glasses

1781
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:37,799
Speaker 3: that Dave Collins wore on his nineteen eighty six Donners

1782
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 3: baseball card. Unbelievable, man, unbelievable. The first Red to wear

1783
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 3: number twenty nine was Jack Quinn back in nineteen thirty three.

1784
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:53,679
Speaker 2: I didn't realize I had Larry Walker's brother either, Harry. Yeah,

1785
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 2: back in nineteen May. Larry's grandpa, Larry and Harry. And

1786
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 2: you know, one of the four random is Raoul Gonzalez.

1787
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:04,000
Speaker 2: He warred for the Reds in two thousand and two.

1788
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:07,559
Speaker 2: Raoul Gonzalez won like three World Series. Yeah, I miss

1789
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 2: I think two of them with Terry Francona. Yeah, at

1790
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:14,719
Speaker 2: one point I think as a coach. If I'm not mistaken,

1791
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:16,720
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly the Raoul Gonzalez.

1792
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, how about Christian Cologne. Yeah, he's got a cousin

1793
01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 3: named pinky perfume. I apologize to our guest Kyle. Kyle

1794
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 3: Decker was waiting to join us, and uh, Kyle represents

1795
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:39,000
Speaker 3: Kyle likes this kind of stuff.

1796
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:44,000
Speaker 2: I think so too. Kyle Decker, Red Brick Legacy is

1797
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 2: going to join us, and we're going to start our

1798
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:48,599
Speaker 2: three shining some light on all the good things happening

1799
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 2: in Oxford, Ohio. We're gonna talk Miami, and I'm not

1800
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:54,800
Speaker 2: talking about Miami of Ohio. It's just Miami now, so

1801
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:57,320
Speaker 2: get it right. Talk about that team in the South,

1802
01:33:57,360 --> 01:34:01,639
Speaker 2: that's Miami of Florida. The real Miami now resides in Oxford.

1803
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 2: Kyle Decker joins us to kick off our number three

1804
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:07,640
Speaker 2: here in studio next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

1805
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:09,759
Speaker 7: Station sixteen rules you would recurring motivated marketing.

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01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:15,080
Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike since e three sixty about Cincinnati.

1807
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:21,400
Speaker 1: From Cincinnati. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 2: Welcome back our number three since E three sixty. We

1809
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 2: are rolling along on a Wednesday afternoon right here on

1810
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:32,920
Speaker 2: the home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1811
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:36,680
Speaker 2: This is not new news to anyone. What's going on

1812
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 2: at Miami right now is absolutely amazing. We have dropped

1813
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:43,760
Speaker 2: Miami of Ohio. It is now just Miami. It is

1814
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:47,599
Speaker 2: the true Miami of all collegiate sports. So we'll take

1815
01:34:47,640 --> 01:34:49,680
Speaker 2: some time today in Stueo devisit with our guy from

1816
01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:52,639
Speaker 2: Red Brick Legacy, Kyle Decker is here. What's up, Kyle?

1817
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 2: How you doing? You're brother good? I love the respects. Yeah,

1818
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 2: I'm we dropped there too, So we've dropped it. Yeah,

1819
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 2: we've dropped Miami, Ohio place to be. It's the as

1820
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:03,600
Speaker 2: they call him, it's America's team right now. Yeah, you

1821
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 2: know it is now. I'll give we have to give

1822
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:09,040
Speaker 2: Austin credit here because before we got started today you

1823
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:12,600
Speaker 2: mentioned that Austin is a great follow up on X. Yeah. No,

1824
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 2: I look to actually have him right now. I don't.

1825
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 24: I see about seven thousand followers. I think he should

1826
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:19,160
Speaker 24: be like twenty five thousand plus. Wow, doesn't get the

1827
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 24: he doesn't get the respect Austin that I think you deserved.

1828
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 24: I was doing a little research. I think he has

1829
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 24: lots of good content. Wow, how about this really good

1830
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 24: good stuff. I think he's he gives a kind of

1831
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:33,200
Speaker 24: a genuine look at sports man, it's easy to be

1832
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:35,160
Speaker 24: red Brick Legacy.

1833
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:38,320
Speaker 2: It feels good to be seen. Thank you. Put some

1834
01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 2: respect on Austin Elmore for Red Brick Legacy. Coming up next, listen,

1835
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:46,240
Speaker 2: it's it's red hot right now with with what's going

1836
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:48,640
Speaker 2: on at Mammy, obviously the basketball team, which we're going

1837
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:50,640
Speaker 2: to talk about a lot of other things happening. I

1838
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:52,679
Speaker 2: thought one of the cooler moments of the past weekend

1839
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:56,799
Speaker 2: the gold medal game between USA and Kida and USA

1840
01:35:56,880 --> 01:36:00,720
Speaker 2: pulls it out and then national push back of what's

1841
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 2: going on at Brick Street. Yeah, I mean not just

1842
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 2: what's going on at Miami, but the Kipps, the university

1843
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 2: absolutely on fire right now.

1844
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:10,160
Speaker 24: Like it's just one thing after another, Like from uh,

1845
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 24: you know, we're on ESPN, who know, you know on

1846
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 24: Friday night the first time the Mac game has been

1847
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 24: then you got you know, the hockey and you got

1848
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 24: a team you'll say where It's like every major outlet

1849
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 24: was was tweeting Brick Street, Miama, Ohio or my university

1850
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 24: and uh, I got'ta even get used to it. But yeah,

1851
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:31,760
Speaker 24: I mean what a I think it's the best. I mean,

1852
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 24: I don't even think I have to say it, but

1853
01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:34,879
Speaker 24: the best college bar in the country.

1854
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 2: Have you ever been there?

1855
01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:39,600
Speaker 24: I've not, Man, you play a game, but yeah, I

1856
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 24: got the UH mark and Will Wiseman do a great

1857
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:44,799
Speaker 24: job of the l R and it's it's a staple.

1858
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 2: And now like UH places work is rocking.

1859
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:49,840
Speaker 24: I mean that dude was waving the Marin flag and

1860
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:52,120
Speaker 24: playing it under the bar and people are going nuts.

1861
01:36:52,120 --> 01:36:54,559
Speaker 24: It's like, how cool is that? You know, team USA

1862
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 24: gold medal. I mean, what a great thing for our country,

1863
01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 24: especially right now. And then to see all the bars,

1864
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:04,559
Speaker 24: I think it's the most watch game Eastern Standard time.

1865
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 24: And then just to see how much support. And then

1866
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 24: just to see brick Street, you know, packed alive to

1867
01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:13,720
Speaker 24: the gills and just going nuts. And then but yeah,

1868
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 24: it's it's a great time to be in Oxford, Ohio.

1869
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:20,440
Speaker 2: You know I mentioned you mentioned Espuno games are nationally televised.

1870
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:23,320
Speaker 2: You have guys like Scott van Pelt and others that

1871
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:26,559
Speaker 2: are coming out and pleading to put more respect Miami's name.

1872
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 2: And then the past weekend, Miles garrett attendance at Mallett

1873
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 2: Hallet Hall is rocking. The place is sold out, The

1874
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:36,960
Speaker 2: atmosphere is unbelievable. Again, so many people outside of the

1875
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 2: university are are taking notice. What's what's that ride been like?

1876
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:45,479
Speaker 2: As from someone on your side of things, just see

1877
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:48,439
Speaker 2: how this is not only engulfed the state of Ohio,

1878
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:50,760
Speaker 2: but but really the nation right now with the story. Yeah,

1879
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 2: it's crazy.

1880
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:53,640
Speaker 24: Like I was sitting court side and they're like, you

1881
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:56,200
Speaker 24: had governor to want going to be there tonight the

1882
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 24: next week, it's just Miles Garret. Miles Garrett actually his

1883
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:01,720
Speaker 24: agent is it was a brand Miami when I was there. Yeah,

1884
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 24: Chay good guy, but you know he's in there to

1885
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:05,439
Speaker 24: can picture super nice guy.

1886
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 4: Obviously.

1887
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:07,680
Speaker 24: I grew up a brown fan and still a Browns fan,

1888
01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:09,560
Speaker 24: as hard as to be. I don't know if I

1889
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:11,639
Speaker 24: should be in that on the and sin it's anattie,

1890
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:16,639
Speaker 24: but no, it's just it's a it's so much fun

1891
01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:20,479
Speaker 24: to know where Travis give the players and you know,

1892
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 24: Coach Steele and his staff credit.

1893
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:25,280
Speaker 2: You know, it's just being part of the process.

1894
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:27,840
Speaker 24: I guess Tony like years pat, you know, starting the

1895
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:30,160
Speaker 24: collective and kind of seeing behind the scenes how this

1896
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:33,400
Speaker 24: team was built. From that perspective, ye, let alone everything

1897
01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:35,960
Speaker 24: they do. I why say it's America's team? Because I

1898
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 24: really feel like one, you know, it's coaches speak all

1899
01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 24: the time. Hell yeah, we're a good team. We're together,

1900
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 24: we care a by each other. But it's true, it's

1901
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:48,160
Speaker 24: very true, like their togetherness is their you know, special power,

1902
01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:51,720
Speaker 24: as what Travis would say, and man do they they

1903
01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:54,360
Speaker 24: they play well together, they know each other. There's a

1904
01:38:54,439 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 24: ton of continuity and they're a fun team to watch.

1905
01:38:56,560 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 24: I would say unflappable. It's not like it's not like

1906
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:01,679
Speaker 24: they've been undefeated and tested. Yeah, there have been games,

1907
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 24: whether they're going on the road or they have to

1908
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:05,320
Speaker 24: come from behind at the end, they have found a

1909
01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:07,960
Speaker 24: way to win it. And almost like as they check

1910
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:10,960
Speaker 24: another one off the box, they're not tightening up. It's

1911
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:13,160
Speaker 24: just a more confident team. What they did last night

1912
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:16,360
Speaker 24: in the first half against Eastern Michigan to separate themselves.

1913
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 30: It is.

1914
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 2: It's been remarkable to watch and I know as crazy

1915
01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:22,599
Speaker 2: and cool of the scenes that Malett Hall have been.

1916
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 2: I know there's a big vote coming up as well

1917
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:28,360
Speaker 2: with the Board of Trustees on whether to green light

1918
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:30,760
Speaker 2: and fund anew I think two hundred and eighty plus

1919
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:34,560
Speaker 2: million dollar sports arena coming up. Yeah, no, it's it

1920
01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:36,920
Speaker 2: helps to have a winning basketball team. Right now, there's

1921
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:38,200
Speaker 2: a good time for a vote to happen.

1922
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 24: We talked previously about you know, anytime you're going to

1923
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:45,880
Speaker 24: build an arena and spend that much capital and where

1924
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 24: to place it on campus, there's there's a lot of feedback,

1925
01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:53,680
Speaker 24: and so it is going to vote tomorrow, and you know,

1926
01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:57,080
Speaker 24: I have high probability and high expectations that'll it'll go through.

1927
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,760
Speaker 24: But you know, I'm not in that room, but I

1928
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:01,400
Speaker 24: I feel like I have a good pulse. But I

1929
01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:05,360
Speaker 24: think it's a great thing. You know, obviously, I think

1930
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 24: it's gonna be an incredible arena. Their goal is to

1931
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 24: make it the best student section experience in the country.

1932
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 24: It's going to be an opportunity for us to have

1933
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 24: a multifaceted approach to to job fairs for for students.

1934
01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:20,960
Speaker 24: We'll be right next to the Farmer School of Business.

1935
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:24,439
Speaker 24: It's gonna be a great opportunity for us to advance

1936
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 24: and utilize other things. That much capital being infused into athletics,

1937
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 24: let alone the university. I think once that location gets

1938
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:35,000
Speaker 24: passed in it's built, I think a lot of people

1939
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:36,680
Speaker 24: will be extremely happy.

1940
01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:39,799
Speaker 2: How exciting and how much from from a fan standpoint

1941
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 2: to watch this and understand that with the notoriety, people

1942
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 2: are gonna say, Okay, what we want Travis Steele as

1943
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:48,120
Speaker 2: our next head coach or or the roster next year.

1944
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:50,240
Speaker 2: In the world of nil, people are going to try

1945
01:40:50,240 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 2: to come in and uh and and take off the roster.

1946
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:55,599
Speaker 2: We had Travis Steel in studio a couple of weeks ago,

1947
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:58,280
Speaker 2: and I think one of the things that kind of

1948
01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:00,880
Speaker 2: drove home to me was the the players that chose

1949
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:03,280
Speaker 2: to come back. And in this day and age, when

1950
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:05,280
Speaker 2: you can have meetings after a season and know that

1951
01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:07,800
Speaker 2: a guys might get offered more money and they want

1952
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:09,120
Speaker 2: to be a part of what you're doing, I think

1953
01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 2: you can tell you're building the program the right way.

1954
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:15,799
Speaker 2: That's the next question for me. As historic and awesome

1955
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:18,439
Speaker 2: as this season is and what they're still trying to finish,

1956
01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:21,880
Speaker 2: it feels like this has stain power as well to

1957
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 2: not just be you know, is it easy to go

1958
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 2: undefeated every year now, but to have stain power as

1959
01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:29,320
Speaker 2: a team that's going to be competing at the top

1960
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:30,920
Speaker 2: end of the MAC for years to come. Yeah.

1961
01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:32,680
Speaker 24: And that's like once I got into this and I

1962
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 24: love Coach Steel, I love coach Martin, I love all

1963
01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:39,600
Speaker 24: the coaches we have. Coach Mylen baseball or women's basketball,

1964
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 24: as we were talking about earlier, is incredible. We're all

1965
01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:45,800
Speaker 24: airs as they're winning the MAC. But to go back

1966
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:48,200
Speaker 24: to it, I think it's the program, you know, that

1967
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 24: we're trying to build. And you know, I was fortunate

1968
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:53,840
Speaker 24: enough that they did incorporate me into, you know, the

1969
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 24: contract offer, and I was able to put my two

1970
01:41:56,040 --> 01:41:58,360
Speaker 24: cents in for Travis in the basketball and a lot

1971
01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:01,160
Speaker 24: of the things they value for whatever reason, Tony, they

1972
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 24: value my opinion and insight. So as part of you know,

1973
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:06,920
Speaker 24: different iterations of how to work with our coaches and

1974
01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:09,560
Speaker 24: and really feel confident, I guess to go back to

1975
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 24: the resources. Like you said, you know, I think Travis,

1976
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:15,439
Speaker 24: you know, we we know that you know, he we

1977
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:18,040
Speaker 24: think extremely highly of him and we would love for

1978
01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:20,679
Speaker 24: him to continue to build. Obviously that's a decision he's

1979
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:23,919
Speaker 24: going to have to make, like any coach or any professional,

1980
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:26,960
Speaker 24: but he we feel like with the arena, with the

1981
01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:29,840
Speaker 24: resources and in il and like I said, I truly

1982
01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:31,960
Speaker 24: mean this and Travis says it too, we have complete

1983
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:34,040
Speaker 24: alignment and we didn't have that maybe three or four

1984
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 24: years ago, but from our board, to President Crawford, to

1985
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 24: our ad David Saylor, to our coaches, to donors, to

1986
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 24: the support like.

1987
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:44,840
Speaker 2: It's it's it takes that and we have that now.

1988
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:48,640
Speaker 24: And so I think any person like you said that

1989
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:51,560
Speaker 24: would come in and coach it's going to be an opportunity.

1990
01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:55,120
Speaker 24: I hope that's not the case, sure, but inevitably, if

1991
01:42:55,280 --> 01:42:57,400
Speaker 24: you know, things happen and we know that it's it's

1992
01:42:57,439 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 24: gonna be great opportunity, keep building.

1993
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 2: Red brick legas see itself. We kind of talked at

1994
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 2: the infancy stage of this, when this was just getting

1995
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:07,519
Speaker 2: up and running. You myself, Matt mchub was in here.

1996
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:10,080
Speaker 2: We were talking about kind of what the vision was

1997
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:12,519
Speaker 2: and where this was going. I think last time we

1998
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 2: had a chance to talk, we were talking about uptown

1999
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:18,360
Speaker 2: Light and where things were going to what's the latest

2000
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:21,040
Speaker 2: from the collective side, because as you know, as this

2001
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 2: thing continues to get rolling, it never stops in the

2002
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,120
Speaker 2: nil world and in what you're trying to raise, in

2003
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 2: the impact you're trying to have. Yeah, it's amazing where

2004
01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:31,040
Speaker 2: we were to where we are now.

2005
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:34,000
Speaker 24: I'd say I told you we want to be the

2006
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 24: best in the MAC and I would say soon thereof

2007
01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:40,519
Speaker 24: we're right at the top, if not the top, and

2008
01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:45,000
Speaker 24: definitely football in basketball, So those things are getting close

2009
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:45,920
Speaker 24: to where we need it to be.

2010
01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:47,800
Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of speculation.

2011
01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:50,760
Speaker 24: Obviously, going from zero and having no collective years ago,

2012
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:52,519
Speaker 24: we're a little bit late to enter the game. But

2013
01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:56,680
Speaker 24: now I'm pretty confident we're in the top tier and

2014
01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:58,760
Speaker 24: we're getting very close to be number one and are

2015
01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:02,240
Speaker 24: in those major sports. So really excited, and like I said,

2016
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 24: the a lot of that came in when when there

2017
01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:06,160
Speaker 24: was complete alignment.

2018
01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:07,559
Speaker 2: Sure, you know, I feel like I had.

2019
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:09,880
Speaker 24: To you know, push and prad and really be the

2020
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:12,719
Speaker 24: guy that kind of I guess one of the folks

2021
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:15,160
Speaker 24: and I'll give Zach Haynes on our board.

2022
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:18,200
Speaker 2: You know, he really invested time in me.

2023
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:21,200
Speaker 24: Uh and David Saylor, President Crawford once again they said,

2024
01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:23,639
Speaker 24: all right, whatever this guy's saying, let's start to listen,

2025
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:26,080
Speaker 24: you know. And not that they were not listening before,

2026
01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:29,320
Speaker 24: but I think they really understood the forward investment.

2027
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:30,919
Speaker 2: Now it's the front ports of the athletics.

2028
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:33,920
Speaker 24: I was talking to Joel Stone with the Farmer Foundation,

2029
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:37,680
Speaker 24: with the School of Business and he I said, I

2030
01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:39,879
Speaker 24: would love to see, and we're starting to see upticks

2031
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:44,639
Speaker 24: of applications and what athletics is truly doing is tremendous

2032
01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:47,400
Speaker 24: when it comes together, Like are the data that I

2033
01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:49,720
Speaker 24: think is going to come from this basketball season and

2034
01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:52,479
Speaker 24: you know, stuff like brick Street. It's sports and social

2035
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:54,320
Speaker 24: now for a lot of these kids, yep, you know,

2036
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:57,120
Speaker 24: and I think that part of that evolution, you know,

2037
01:44:57,280 --> 01:44:59,679
Speaker 24: is going to attract a lot more people at our university,

2038
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:01,040
Speaker 24: which is just gonna make us stronger.

2039
01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:03,679
Speaker 2: I'm really proud about that. How much is the importance,

2040
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:05,479
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, for everyone kind of pushing and rowing

2041
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:08,120
Speaker 2: in the same direction, not just in their own sport,

2042
01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:11,679
Speaker 2: but collectively as you know, Travis Deel and Chuck Martin

2043
01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:13,760
Speaker 2: and having it come together and have an understanding there.

2044
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 2: I'm sure there are ideas and things that surface through that.

2045
01:45:17,160 --> 01:45:20,439
Speaker 2: But to get both in major sports to come together

2046
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:22,599
Speaker 2: and push in the same direction, I'm sure is something

2047
01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:23,479
Speaker 2: that's gonna help as well.

2048
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 24: Yeah, I mean, I wish I could tape record when

2049
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 24: you get Chuck and Travis in the same right around

2050
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:30,400
Speaker 24: the same conference table, and we had some of those

2051
01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:33,160
Speaker 24: meetings early on. It's it's it's electric. But you know,

2052
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 24: like you said, our hockey program top twenty five are

2053
01:45:35,560 --> 01:45:37,599
Speaker 24: been in and out. You know, coaching Arene is doing

2054
01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:39,800
Speaker 24: a great job. Our women's basketball got beat for the

2055
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:42,120
Speaker 24: first time at UMass the other weekend. But baseball's off

2056
01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:44,360
Speaker 24: to a great start. Ease Ball's off to a great start.

2057
01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:47,880
Speaker 24: I mean, it's it's it's twenty twenty six. I've said it,

2058
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:49,519
Speaker 24: I'll say it again. Is gonna be the best year

2059
01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:53,439
Speaker 24: in Miami, you know athletics history, truly feel you know,

2060
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:56,479
Speaker 24: truly believe that. And then we get to come this

2061
01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:59,559
Speaker 24: fall an opportunity to go to TQL Stadium.

2062
01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:01,320
Speaker 2: Yeah cool, I mean that that is well. I was

2063
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 2: announced earlier in the week and you and I were

2064
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:05,760
Speaker 2: messaging a little bit about it. Originally set for pay

2065
01:46:05,800 --> 01:46:09,519
Speaker 2: Corpse Stadium. Now here's this unique environment at TQL Stadium.

2066
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 2: The venue itself is awesome. If you've ever been to

2067
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 2: an FC Cincinnati match or I urge you to do that.

2068
01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:20,040
Speaker 2: But moving this game to TQL Stadium feels like a

2069
01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:21,439
Speaker 2: win win for for all sides.

2070
01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:21,679
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2071
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:23,800
Speaker 24: I think it's like you said, like that is I

2072
01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 24: think it was just righted the best MLS stadium you

2073
01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:28,599
Speaker 24: know in that space for soccer.

2074
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:31,000
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a reason that the national teams are

2075
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:31,679
Speaker 2: coming to play.

2076
01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:34,800
Speaker 24: If you haven't been there, you got to go. And

2077
01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:36,439
Speaker 24: I'm not a big soccer guy to be honest, but

2078
01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:38,640
Speaker 24: you go, you have a great time. So I think

2079
01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:41,720
Speaker 24: it's gonna be a special environment for the rivalry. I

2080
01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:44,639
Speaker 24: think really excited about the portal class we had put together,

2081
01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:48,080
Speaker 24: that we have a bunch of early enrollies as freshmen.

2082
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:52,120
Speaker 24: I think we have a much better class and crop

2083
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:55,439
Speaker 24: of guys that are going to follow the culture and

2084
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:58,160
Speaker 24: what we're we're we believe in with coach Martin and

2085
01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:00,439
Speaker 24: in the Miami football way. But it's gonna be a

2086
01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:03,200
Speaker 24: lot of fun to see you see in Miami battle

2087
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:05,160
Speaker 24: at that stadium, and it's gonna be fantastic.

2088
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:08,439
Speaker 2: The thing for me with Nil and I hold this

2089
01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 2: to the very top of the Bengals, I think one

2090
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:14,840
Speaker 2: of the most challenging parts is, you know, you look

2091
01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:17,160
Speaker 2: at the Bengals. They've spent money. Are they spending the

2092
01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:20,160
Speaker 2: money that the scheme and the personnel match what you

2093
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:23,120
Speaker 2: want to do together? And I think that's a learning

2094
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:25,880
Speaker 2: process in college as well. Of Okay, now we have

2095
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:28,519
Speaker 2: money to spend That's the first part of it. Are

2096
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:30,879
Speaker 2: you spending the money the right way to get perfect

2097
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:33,760
Speaker 2: fits into your program? And when you do, you see

2098
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 2: in Indiana that, Okay, we spent the money, but also

2099
01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:39,880
Speaker 2: every piece seems to fit together. That has to be

2100
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:42,160
Speaker 2: a learning curve as well for a guy and Chuck

2101
01:47:42,200 --> 01:47:44,960
Speaker 2: Martin who's done it for so long. One way, Now

2102
01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:47,120
Speaker 2: you're paying players, but you got to make sure you're

2103
01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:50,080
Speaker 2: paying the right players. And as you said, it feels

2104
01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:52,920
Speaker 2: like and following along with the class and the portal,

2105
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:55,240
Speaker 2: it feels like you see a lot of these guys

2106
01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:57,960
Speaker 2: like man that seems like it fits for who they are. Yeah.

2107
01:47:57,960 --> 01:47:59,960
Speaker 24: I mean, I won't tell you what we have exactly

2108
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:01,680
Speaker 24: right now, but I can tell you what we did have,

2109
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:04,120
Speaker 24: which was zero than the first year, was eighty thousand

2110
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:07,320
Speaker 24: dollars right when we were going up against other guys.

2111
01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:10,439
Speaker 24: They're at ten, twelve, thirteen million dollars at that point. Yeah,

2112
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:14,439
Speaker 24: So now we have a lot more. And so like

2113
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 24: you said, like, how do you spend that money in

2114
01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:18,559
Speaker 24: our GM Cody Keller and his staff. So we've built

2115
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:22,479
Speaker 24: a staff, we have a general manager, even talk to

2116
01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:25,599
Speaker 24: Coach Steele about it. It's it's there's teams that we've

2117
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:28,080
Speaker 24: played in basketball that have more money than us, But

2118
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:31,200
Speaker 24: it's how we've spent our money, how we build, how

2119
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:34,640
Speaker 24: we value, Like you said, that is a process, and

2120
01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:38,080
Speaker 24: we've definitely learned through that. Myself. I've learned through that

2121
01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 24: because you know, I'm a little bit part of that process.

2122
01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:42,760
Speaker 24: And I think we learned a lot last year. We're

2123
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:44,920
Speaker 24: going to continue to learn. But it's exciting to have

2124
01:48:45,080 --> 01:48:48,240
Speaker 24: the resources now. It's like you said, it's it's now

2125
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:51,240
Speaker 24: you're going how do we spend this? And that's an

2126
01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:53,479
Speaker 24: exciting thing to do. But like you said, just because

2127
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:55,040
Speaker 24: you have all the talent in the world, the piece

2128
01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:57,599
Speaker 24: has got to fit, you know, And that's I think

2129
01:48:57,640 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 24: that we're seeing that across the board and any sport

2130
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:02,400
Speaker 24: or in culture still matters. That's why I love about

2131
01:49:02,439 --> 01:49:04,360
Speaker 24: the basketball team. It's a great lesson not just for

2132
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:06,760
Speaker 24: us at Miami, but I think the whole country that

2133
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:10,479
Speaker 24: you know, you got to still put you know, culture matters,

2134
01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:15,400
Speaker 24: teamwork matters, camaraderie matters, passing the ball to each other,

2135
01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:19,320
Speaker 24: you know, rooting for someone else's success, you know, is

2136
01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:22,200
Speaker 24: it still matters? You know, And that's what's so exciting

2137
01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:26,280
Speaker 24: about Miami basketball not just for our other sports, but

2138
01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:28,439
Speaker 24: like I said, really for college athletics. I think it's

2139
01:49:28,479 --> 01:49:30,719
Speaker 24: a huge thing for us right now, and I'm hoping

2140
01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:32,720
Speaker 24: that we finished strong. We still got a lot of

2141
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:34,880
Speaker 24: ball left in front of us. Tony MAC Championship. By

2142
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:37,960
Speaker 24: the way, Ady David Saylor said, Hey, get your tickets.

2143
01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:42,160
Speaker 24: Miami allotment is starting to sell out, which is awesome.

2144
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Speaker 24: I think you're gonna see a huge support to see

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Speaker 24: a Red up there in Cleveland. But go to Emmy

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01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:50,320
Speaker 24: RedHawks dot com. And also if you want to, you know,

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Speaker 24: I always tell people, if you got that million dollar

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Speaker 24: check you want to drop into Red Brick Legacy, go

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Speaker 24: to RedBrick Legacy dot com.

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Speaker 2: And we would love to continue to raise funds and

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Speaker 2: support that You've already got the residency in Detroit for

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01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:05,920
Speaker 2: the MAC Championship. Should folks just go ahead and start

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01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:09,080
Speaker 2: in Cleveland now? With what Travis Steel is putting together,

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01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:13,120
Speaker 2: three more regular season opportunities at Western Michigan Friday home

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01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:15,479
Speaker 2: versus Toledo, and a game that I can imagine is

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01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 2: going to be madness on March sixth on the road

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01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:21,599
Speaker 2: at Ohio three more opportunities, and as you mentioned, that's

2158
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:24,719
Speaker 2: just the tip of the iceberg. I'm sure this team

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01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:29,680
Speaker 2: has bigger aspirations than a regular season, undefeated, Slate MAC championship,

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01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:34,240
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament, and so much more. I know, football at

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01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:38,479
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh TQL Stadium, Yukon and the non conference. So a

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01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 2: lot of big stuff continuing on for Miami. I'm thankful

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Speaker 2: for you to stop by today one more time for

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01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:47,840
Speaker 2: folks that are either just learning about this, maybe this

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Speaker 2: is the first time they're hearing it, or maybe want

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Speaker 2: to find a way to give and have an impact

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Speaker 2: with Red Brick Legacy.

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Speaker 24: What's the easiest way. Yeah, no, really appreciate it. Thanks

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01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:58,560
Speaker 24: again for all the support RedBrick Legacy dot com. We

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Speaker 24: have socials that are out there, RedBrick Legacy MU RedHawks

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01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:05,639
Speaker 24: also has because now it's a partnership with the school.

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01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:08,360
Speaker 24: They have links and they send out a lot of content.

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01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:11,479
Speaker 24: But you know, I know, I know the kids. You know,

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Speaker 24: it's awesome to talk to Pete Sooter and all these

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Speaker 24: guys that are now you know, kind of national figures,

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01:51:16,479 --> 01:51:18,960
Speaker 24: but like just to to understand and just said thank

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Speaker 24: you know, walked up to them after the game there

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01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:23,760
Speaker 24: night and said thank you a senior night. Yeah, and

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Speaker 24: you know it's a special group. Get behind these guys.

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01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:31,360
Speaker 24: Let's let's finish the right way. I would love to

2181
01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:33,840
Speaker 24: say that it felt really good to be OU.

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01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 2: We do not like OU.

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01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:38,479
Speaker 24: Make that very clear, and hopefully that last game of

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Speaker 24: the season. It's now flex to ESPN two, Battle the

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01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:46,200
Speaker 24: Bricks and Basketball. Not a big fan of those OU Bobcats.

2186
01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:48,920
Speaker 24: My brother went there and definitely a lot of inter

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01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:51,880
Speaker 24: rivalries in the in the OU world.

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01:51:51,960 --> 01:51:54,200
Speaker 2: So beat the Bobbies. You hate to look ahead, but

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01:51:54,280 --> 01:51:56,839
Speaker 2: you have Western MISCN four and eleven in the conference,

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01:51:56,920 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 2: ten and eighteen overall. Toledo is a good team nine

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01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:03,000
Speaker 2: and six in the conference, fifteen and thirteen overall. But

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01:52:03,439 --> 01:52:06,880
Speaker 2: if you can get to that, that'll OU game undefeated.

2193
01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:09,840
Speaker 2: I can't imagine the madness that will ensue if Travis,

2194
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:12,479
Speaker 2: which he's not. They're up in Michigan right now, but

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01:52:12,560 --> 01:52:13,720
Speaker 2: he is game by game.

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Speaker 24: If you heard me talk about oue he is he is,

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Speaker 24: Like dude, if I hear you talk about two games

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Speaker 24: in advance, like you're gonna be in travel.

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Speaker 3: So please hopefully he's at world Western Michigan Broncos on Western. Yeah,

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01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:29,559
Speaker 3: that is that's Kyle Decker Red Brick legacy. We appreciate

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Speaker 3: the time and we'll catch up. So yeah, appreciate it.

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Speaker 24: Thank you, guys, Appreciate and follow Austin Elmore, don't forget

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Speaker 24: about that.

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Speaker 2: At Audielmore right there, it's a since he three sixty,

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Speaker 2: we're rolling along our number three. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Sports Station. Great use of a little free part here,

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01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:52,240
Speaker 2: welcome back, since he three sixty. Thanks to Kyle Decker

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01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:55,519
Speaker 2: for stopping by. Thank you for listening to ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Yesterday at the Ballpark, Reds pick

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01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:05,280
Speaker 2: up their first spring training win of the season, one

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01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 2: and two. Again, not that wins and losses really matter,

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01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:12,600
Speaker 2: but what does matter is what you saw from the

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Speaker 2: Reds I think, and Austin you said it as well,

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01:53:16,160 --> 01:53:17,840
Speaker 2: pretty close to what I think a lot of people

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01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:20,200
Speaker 2: would project right now. The opening day lineup to look

2216
01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:23,240
Speaker 2: like maybe Dane Meyers gets swapped out of there, and

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01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:26,160
Speaker 2: I don't know how the back end of that would

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01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:30,400
Speaker 2: look like, but certainly at the top. TJ. Friedel another hit,

2219
01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:34,080
Speaker 2: another RBI. Matt McClain with the long pants another hit

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01:53:34,280 --> 01:53:36,760
Speaker 2: and a walk in the game, and then we also

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01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:43,040
Speaker 2: saw for the first time, I think why the excitement

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01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:44,599
Speaker 2: is where it is from a lot of fans from

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Reds. Back to back home runs in the

2224
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Speaker 2: bottom of the fifth from Elie de la Cruz and

2225
01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:52,880
Speaker 2: eo Henio Suarez gave you a little taste, and I

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01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:55,360
Speaker 2: think when you kind of give, you also take away

2227
01:53:55,400 --> 01:53:57,759
Speaker 2: a little bit as well. Ellie struck out twice, Suarez

2228
01:53:57,800 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 2: truck out in the game, but all in you get

2229
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:02,800
Speaker 2: to kind of peel back the curtain a little bit

2230
01:54:02,840 --> 01:54:05,400
Speaker 2: of what this lineup can look like, especially from a

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01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:09,599
Speaker 2: power standpoint. Saw Andrew rabbit over two inning strikeout two,

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01:54:09,680 --> 01:54:12,960
Speaker 2: also gave up a two run home run. But a

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01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 2: Reds win yesterday the back to back home runs. Outside

2234
01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:19,920
Speaker 2: of that, any other major takeaways from yesterday's game.

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Speaker 3: Their first win of the spring. It was nice to

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01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:24,840
Speaker 3: see swore Az get his first two hits of the spring.

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01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:28,120
Speaker 3: He also singled along with that homer. You did mention

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01:54:28,280 --> 01:54:30,400
Speaker 3: they not only had back to back homers, but back

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01:54:30,439 --> 01:54:32,320
Speaker 3: to back strikeouts. That's going to be part of the

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Speaker 3: growing pains with those two in the middle of the lineup.

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Speaker 3: Brandon Williamson four strikeouts and a couple innings of work.

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Speaker 3: I think people are continually impressed with what they have

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01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:43,840
Speaker 3: seen from him. And yea guy made twenty starts for

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01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 3: the Reds a couple of years ago before he ran

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01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:49,000
Speaker 3: into that shoulder and then elbow injury. I think he's

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01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:52,320
Speaker 3: gonna be a bigger part of the twenty twenty six

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01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:56,560
Speaker 3: season than we realize at the moment. Other than that,

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01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 3: it was relatively status quo. The Reds go on the

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01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:02,200
Speaker 3: roa for the first time in the spring later this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: One other thing I do thought it was a refreshing

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Speaker 2: and welcome site. One walk divviat out by Reds pitching.

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01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:12,000
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, they corrected. That is so got that corrected. Yeah,

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01:55:12,400 --> 01:55:14,000
Speaker 3: a little bit better than what we had it at.

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Speaker 2: Do we have a lineup for how they will attack

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Speaker 2: the Chicago White Sox today, We sure do.

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Speaker 3: Cactus League action for the Red Legs a roster at

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01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:28,240
Speaker 3: three to oh five in Glendale. As I mentioned, they're

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01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:30,400
Speaker 3: going on the road for the first time in spring

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01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:34,240
Speaker 3: to take on the South Siders. The Chicago White Sox,

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Speaker 3: who have had a pretty big off season by their standards,

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01:55:37,160 --> 01:55:40,000
Speaker 3: now the worst owner in sports is Jerry Reinsdorf. He

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01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:44,320
Speaker 3: owned the Chicago White Sox. He also owns the Chicago Bulls.

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01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:48,720
Speaker 3: Now they're actually, it appears, investing in the White Sox. Meanwhile,

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01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:51,840
Speaker 3: they're driving the Bulls into the ground. Not that it's

2265
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:54,600
Speaker 3: a sore subject or anything. Here's how the Red Legs

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01:55:55,040 --> 01:55:59,320
Speaker 3: will line them up. Leading off in left field, Hector Rodriguez.

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01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:04,840
Speaker 3: The second batter is third baseman Key Brian Hayes batting third,

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01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:09,200
Speaker 3: right fielder JJ Bledah. The cleanup batter is first baseman

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01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:14,440
Speaker 3: Sal Stuart batting fifth, the DH Nathaniel Lowe. The sixth

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Speaker 3: batter is catcher Jose Travigno. Blake dunnwill bat seventh and

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01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:22,400
Speaker 3: play center field. Garrett Hampson bats eighth. He's the second basement.

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Speaker 3: The ninth batter is shortstop Edwin Arroyo and starting on

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01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:29,920
Speaker 3: the mound for the Red Legs today, the big lefty

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01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:35,320
Speaker 3: nick Leddolo Dolo day for the Red Legs. Once more,

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01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:41,800
Speaker 3: it's Rodriguez, Hayes, Rodriguez, Hayes, Blade, Stuart, low Travino, Don Hampson,

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01:56:41,960 --> 01:56:44,200
Speaker 3: Arroyo with Lodolo.

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Speaker 2: On the mound, not the old Hayes, Bla eday Man

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01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:49,480
Speaker 2: two three combination. We talked a lot about the two hole.

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01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:51,600
Speaker 2: We haven't talked about key Brian Hayes up there in

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01:56:51,680 --> 01:56:55,320
Speaker 2: that two hole. Yeah, you better not be j J. Bleday.

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01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:59,560
Speaker 2: A chance to see Sal Stuart uh with some extended

2282
01:56:59,600 --> 01:57:01,400
Speaker 2: action as well. And I think.

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01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:04,280
Speaker 3: We've not yet seen Spencer Steer in the outfield.

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01:57:04,440 --> 01:57:04,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:08,640
Speaker 2: I think that the big point here and kind of

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01:57:08,720 --> 01:57:12,560
Speaker 2: drove this home and Chad Brendle did so yesterday. The

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01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:17,320
Speaker 2: ability of Hunter Green, Andrew have Itt and Nick Lodolo

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01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:21,200
Speaker 2: as a big three to just get and start as

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01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:22,320
Speaker 2: many games as possible.

2290
01:57:22,680 --> 01:57:25,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you can get ninety starts out of those guys,

2291
01:57:25,080 --> 01:57:25,680
Speaker 3: you'd be thrilled.

2292
01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:29,840
Speaker 2: Yep, each of them start thirty games. Divvy up the

2293
01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:33,760
Speaker 2: rest between you know, your your four and your five,

2294
01:57:33,840 --> 01:57:37,880
Speaker 2: and also your deep pitching rotation for times when guys

2295
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:40,360
Speaker 2: are banged up, when you need guys to maybe miss

2296
01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:42,560
Speaker 2: a starter or two. You feel like you've got some

2297
01:57:42,640 --> 01:57:45,200
Speaker 2: built in depth there. You just talked about Brandon Williamson,

2298
01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:48,240
Speaker 2: We've talked about Rhet Louder. I think everyone we've talked

2299
01:57:48,280 --> 01:57:53,480
Speaker 2: about that's been to spring training. Austin has openly spoke

2300
01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:58,720
Speaker 2: about Chase Burtns and how impressed they've been with Chase

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01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:03,080
Speaker 2: Burtns and that could potentially be your fifth guy in

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01:58:03,200 --> 01:58:05,800
Speaker 2: the rotation, kind of bursting onto the scene as a

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01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:08,680
Speaker 2: star in the making for the Cincinnati Reds. Let's take

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01:58:09,040 --> 01:58:11,280
Speaker 2: a break, we'll come back. We have one final segment

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01:58:11,320 --> 01:58:13,600
Speaker 2: before we welcome Mo Agerbach for the first time this

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01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:17,040
Speaker 2: week right here on the home of the Bengals, ESBN

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01:58:17,120 --> 01:58:27,640
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Welcome back. Since the three

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01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:33,400
Speaker 2: to sixty ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, the comumbine

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01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:38,120
Speaker 2: is ongoing, which means Austin that the Bengals are hosting

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01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:42,360
Speaker 2: player interviews. Do we know at this point who, in

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01:58:42,440 --> 01:58:44,160
Speaker 2: fact the Bengals have met with.

2312
01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:48,960
Speaker 3: We know a few of the defensive linemen and linebackers

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01:58:49,000 --> 01:58:51,240
Speaker 3: that are meeting with the media today that have confirmed

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01:58:51,280 --> 01:58:54,520
Speaker 3: they've met with the Bengals. David Bailey, the edge from

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01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:58,800
Speaker 3: Texas Tech, Sunny Styles linebacker from Ohio State, Ruben Bain Junior,

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01:58:59,320 --> 01:59:03,240
Speaker 3: the edge rush from Miami Caden McDonald with defensive tackle

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01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:06,600
Speaker 3: from Ohio State, Peter Woods, the d tackle from Clemson,

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01:59:06,920 --> 01:59:10,320
Speaker 3: Peter Woods. I think had twenty one team interviews. It's

2319
01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:14,320
Speaker 3: a long day for Pete and Dante Corleone from Cincinnati.

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01:59:14,440 --> 01:59:17,000
Speaker 3: When he when he met with the media this morning,

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01:59:17,080 --> 01:59:18,760
Speaker 3: he said he hadn't met with the Bengals yet, but

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01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:22,240
Speaker 3: he was going too soon, So I would assume that

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01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:26,080
Speaker 3: meeting has happened already or is happening right now. That's

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01:59:26,200 --> 01:59:28,560
Speaker 3: just the list so far. Obviously more of those will

2325
01:59:28,600 --> 01:59:30,560
Speaker 3: come out over the next couple of days we go. Also,

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Speaker 3: did you see the news about the Toush push It

2327
01:59:36,600 --> 01:59:39,600
Speaker 3: got banned. Yeah, we talked about it yesterday. No, it

2328
01:59:39,680 --> 01:59:43,800
Speaker 3: got banned on the show. It got banned in the

2329
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:48,400
Speaker 3: UFL anyway, care about that? The UFL banned anyway, the

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Speaker 3: Toush push is no more. Anybody care about that in

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01:59:51,560 --> 01:59:56,720
Speaker 3: the UFL. Mike is on the phone. What's up, Mike?

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Speaker 5: Hey, thank you for squeezing the guy for sure that

2333
02:00:00,760 --> 02:00:03,560
Speaker 5: I had some weird stuff happened. I had a weird

2334
02:00:03,640 --> 02:00:09,040
Speaker 5: reaction to some new medicine that was a little scary. Anyway,

2335
02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:12,040
Speaker 5: I did some research on this, since I have a

2336
02:00:12,160 --> 02:00:16,680
Speaker 5: lot of time when in the damn bed, and there

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02:00:16,760 --> 02:00:21,800
Speaker 5: is virtually zero correlation between the spring and the regular season,

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02:00:21,960 --> 02:00:26,360
Speaker 5: and especially the postseason. I think in two thousand and six,

2339
02:00:26,520 --> 02:00:30,200
Speaker 5: the Braves defied the know the Diamondbacks defied the odds

2340
02:00:31,120 --> 02:00:35,640
Speaker 5: with a horrible spring training and then weaked into the playoffs.

2341
02:00:35,680 --> 02:00:38,840
Speaker 5: And then I think the Red Sox had a great

2342
02:00:39,040 --> 02:00:42,800
Speaker 5: spring training and then crapped out in twenty thirteen something

2343
02:00:42,880 --> 02:00:46,360
Speaker 5: like that. But anyway, bottom line is zero correlation. It's

2344
02:00:46,600 --> 02:00:51,480
Speaker 5: strictly a time, as you know, for development, experimentation and

2345
02:00:51,640 --> 02:00:53,920
Speaker 5: a lot of young guys that most of them won't

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02:00:53,960 --> 02:00:55,120
Speaker 5: even be on the team next year.

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02:00:55,200 --> 02:00:56,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, for sure, it's.

2348
02:00:56,160 --> 02:00:58,800
Speaker 5: Funny to get excited about it, but you know it's

2349
02:00:58,840 --> 02:01:01,040
Speaker 5: something to do since they're nothing else might score on.

2350
02:01:01,160 --> 02:01:03,840
Speaker 5: Although March Madness will be crazy, pretty cent. I can't

2351
02:01:03,880 --> 02:01:06,920
Speaker 5: wait for that without a doubt. Give me, I missed

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Speaker 5: it last night. Tone give me a quick recap on

2353
02:01:10,040 --> 02:01:13,000
Speaker 5: what the hell happened with the Bearcats with JT. Topp

2354
02:01:13,040 --> 02:01:14,400
Speaker 5: and they're all American being.

2355
02:01:14,280 --> 02:01:18,480
Speaker 2: Out Texas Tech. You give them credit. They completely revamped

2356
02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:20,560
Speaker 2: who and what they are on the offensive side of

2357
02:01:20,600 --> 02:01:22,760
Speaker 2: the ball. Now, they are heavy in the ball screens,

2358
02:01:22,760 --> 02:01:25,600
Speaker 2: they shoot a lot of threes, They spread the court out,

2359
02:01:25,800 --> 02:01:29,760
Speaker 2: they play a little bit smaller, and last night in

2360
02:01:29,960 --> 02:01:33,160
Speaker 2: that role, unfortunately they were also hitting shots. They made

2361
02:01:33,240 --> 02:01:36,200
Speaker 2: forty percent of their threes. They shot fifty two percent

2362
02:01:36,280 --> 02:01:39,160
Speaker 2: from the field, and as Mowagar pointed out, on the

2363
02:01:39,240 --> 02:01:43,240
Speaker 2: shots they missed, which wasn't many, they rebounded twelve of

2364
02:01:43,320 --> 02:01:47,720
Speaker 2: them on the offensive glass. They're undersized, but yet still

2365
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:53,120
Speaker 2: out rebounded the Bearcats by sixteen rebounds. It just it

2366
02:01:53,400 --> 02:01:58,440
Speaker 2: wasn't defensively, the attention to detail and I think at

2367
02:01:58,520 --> 02:02:01,800
Speaker 2: times the effort was not there last night. And if

2368
02:02:01,840 --> 02:02:06,560
Speaker 2: you look across the the box score for the Bearcats,

2369
02:02:07,200 --> 02:02:10,440
Speaker 2: uh Gisel James did not have a rebound, Tyler McKinley

2370
02:02:10,480 --> 02:02:13,640
Speaker 2: did not have a rebound. Keyshan Tillery did not register

2371
02:02:13,800 --> 02:02:16,720
Speaker 2: or rebound. It just it wasn't enough in a game

2372
02:02:16,840 --> 02:02:18,480
Speaker 2: like that, all hands got to be on deck on

2373
02:02:18,520 --> 02:02:20,560
Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball, and they didn't have

2374
02:02:20,720 --> 02:02:23,320
Speaker 2: that last night. And uh, and it resulted in a

2375
02:02:23,360 --> 02:02:24,160
Speaker 2: disappointing loss.

2376
02:02:25,440 --> 02:02:28,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I remember coach McCastle and saying before the

2377
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Speaker 5: game that they're all about team rebounding, team rebounding, and

2378
02:02:33,160 --> 02:02:34,840
Speaker 5: their guards hit the boards.

2379
02:02:34,720 --> 02:02:37,880
Speaker 2: And their offensive rebounds resulted in points. It was either

2380
02:02:37,960 --> 02:02:42,080
Speaker 2: put back dunks or kickout for wide open threes as

2381
02:02:42,120 --> 02:02:45,320
Speaker 2: opposed I mean, you see got eleven offensive rebounds to

2382
02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:47,640
Speaker 2: just twelve for Texas Tech, but it felt like Texas

2383
02:02:47,680 --> 02:02:51,640
Speaker 2: Tech capitalized on every single one of those offensive rebounds.

2384
02:02:52,520 --> 02:02:55,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a chiller loss too after what they've been doing.

2385
02:02:55,640 --> 02:02:59,240
Speaker 5: That's that's the and one last quick thing. Dan Patrick

2386
02:02:59,320 --> 02:03:01,320
Speaker 5: hit a thing. I'm getting addicted to him like I

2387
02:03:01,400 --> 02:03:04,280
Speaker 5: am to you guys. He had a thing about sounds

2388
02:03:04,360 --> 02:03:07,400
Speaker 5: of sports this morning, and it was really interesting to

2389
02:03:07,440 --> 02:03:10,080
Speaker 5: hear people calling in and talking about favorite sounds from

2390
02:03:10,120 --> 02:03:13,280
Speaker 5: all kinds of different sports. But the one I remember

2391
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:15,880
Speaker 5: growing up as a kid was down to Cincinnati Gardens

2392
02:03:15,920 --> 02:03:18,080
Speaker 5: on Paddock Road where the Royals used to play in

2393
02:03:18,200 --> 02:03:21,480
Speaker 5: slifting over there and going with my dad. I was

2394
02:03:21,520 --> 02:03:23,880
Speaker 5: eight or nine years old and my dad was a

2395
02:03:24,240 --> 02:03:27,320
Speaker 5: City of Cincinnati firefighter. He have his big eyeball cigar

2396
02:03:27,440 --> 02:03:30,760
Speaker 5: in his mouth buying tickets windows before we go in.

2397
02:03:31,480 --> 02:03:33,920
Speaker 5: And you get in there, Tony, and not just the

2398
02:03:34,080 --> 02:03:36,600
Speaker 5: size of the guys when you're that little, but the

2399
02:03:36,800 --> 02:03:41,320
Speaker 5: sound of the PA announcer. It sounded like God, like

2400
02:03:41,480 --> 02:03:44,560
Speaker 5: the voice was coming from heaven. It was the most

2401
02:03:44,960 --> 02:03:48,440
Speaker 5: pleasant memory I had as a kid growing up.

2402
02:03:48,520 --> 02:03:48,760
Speaker 6: It was.

2403
02:03:49,120 --> 02:03:51,280
Speaker 5: And then you hear the squeaking of the sneakers that

2404
02:03:51,440 --> 02:03:54,240
Speaker 5: they were warming up. And then Jerry Lucas came and

2405
02:03:54,320 --> 02:03:57,920
Speaker 5: did a thing before the game because he memorized he

2406
02:03:58,000 --> 02:04:02,200
Speaker 5: could memorize phone books. Sure, did you ever hear about that?

2407
02:04:02,880 --> 02:04:06,640
Speaker 2: I can imagine just just from basically but the sports

2408
02:04:06,640 --> 02:04:09,080
Speaker 2: time because Dan Patrick what was interesting to me, He

2409
02:04:09,160 --> 02:04:11,600
Speaker 2: actually brought up talking about that today the Texas Tech

2410
02:04:11,720 --> 02:04:14,560
Speaker 2: UC game last night because he was going on and

2411
02:04:14,640 --> 02:04:18,720
Speaker 2: on about how bad it sounded. He said, the rims,

2412
02:04:18,840 --> 02:04:21,280
Speaker 2: He said, the rims were so bad, and he said

2413
02:04:21,320 --> 02:04:22,720
Speaker 2: he had to turn the volume off because it was

2414
02:04:22,800 --> 02:04:24,560
Speaker 2: driving him nuts. And you see was missing a bunch

2415
02:04:24,600 --> 02:04:25,040
Speaker 2: of shots.

2416
02:04:26,320 --> 02:04:26,600
Speaker 15: Was it that?

2417
02:04:27,080 --> 02:04:29,440
Speaker 5: Because I didn't get to see it. Was it depth pronounced?

2418
02:04:29,880 --> 02:04:30,720
Speaker 7: Yes, it was it was.

2419
02:04:31,080 --> 02:04:34,200
Speaker 2: It was weird and you see, made their first nine shots,

2420
02:04:34,240 --> 02:04:36,320
Speaker 2: so you didn't notice it then, but every shot he

2421
02:04:36,440 --> 02:04:38,720
Speaker 2: missed after that. They even played the audio on some

2422
02:04:38,840 --> 02:04:41,760
Speaker 2: of the makes and it sounded like he was I

2423
02:04:41,800 --> 02:04:43,040
Speaker 2: don't know if he did, but he was trying to

2424
02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:45,160
Speaker 2: get someone from Texas Tech on to explain it.

2425
02:04:46,600 --> 02:04:46,840
Speaker 32: Wow.

2426
02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:49,720
Speaker 5: So so it was a clunk sound or what I mean?

2427
02:04:49,760 --> 02:04:51,040
Speaker 5: How was it just irritating?

2428
02:04:51,160 --> 02:04:52,360
Speaker 2: How would you describe it Austin.

2429
02:04:52,480 --> 02:04:54,960
Speaker 3: It was almost like it was a loose, kind of

2430
02:04:55,080 --> 02:04:58,560
Speaker 3: a squeak when it would hit. And you know, they

2431
02:04:58,640 --> 02:05:01,120
Speaker 3: have a bunch of microphone is there and part of

2432
02:05:01,160 --> 02:05:03,800
Speaker 3: it is the way that the microphones or way that

2433
02:05:03,960 --> 02:05:07,160
Speaker 3: the hoop is miked. But he was theorizing that that

2434
02:05:07,600 --> 02:05:12,000
Speaker 3: sound was coming from the rims being loose as opposed

2435
02:05:12,040 --> 02:05:14,080
Speaker 3: to them being really stiff.

2436
02:05:15,200 --> 02:05:17,560
Speaker 5: Like a bolt being loose or something.

2437
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:20,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. They were loose for Texas Tech shooting,

2438
02:05:20,840 --> 02:05:21,400
Speaker 2: that's for sure.

2439
02:05:22,480 --> 02:05:24,720
Speaker 5: You guys are awesome, like come off with stuff and

2440
02:05:24,760 --> 02:05:27,120
Speaker 5: you got the answers. God bless you. Love you guys.

2441
02:05:27,200 --> 02:05:27,840
Speaker 5: Talk to you tomorrow.

2442
02:05:28,640 --> 02:05:30,920
Speaker 2: Have a great day. We'll talk to you soon. Uh

2443
02:05:31,040 --> 02:05:35,280
Speaker 2: all right, mulagger back from Lubbo, Lubbock, Texas. Ready to

2444
02:05:35,320 --> 02:05:37,840
Speaker 2: be back in holder. If you notice the sounds, we'll

2445
02:05:37,840 --> 02:05:38,280
Speaker 2: ask him not.

2446
02:05:38,440 --> 02:05:38,640
Speaker 5: Next.

2447
02:05:39,040 --> 02:05:42,280
Speaker 2: Quick kits ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station from the

2448
02:05:42,360 --> 02:05:43,160
Speaker 2: any Weather Heating.

2449
02:05:44,920 --> 02:05:48,280
Speaker 7: Now it's time for quick hits on Tony Pikes.

2450
02:05:48,360 --> 02:05:53,280
Speaker 2: Since the three was looking for Mo, we got Mo

2451
02:05:53,480 --> 02:05:57,400
Speaker 2: back from Love It Lubbock. Mo is back in the building.

2452
02:05:57,480 --> 02:06:01,720
Speaker 2: It's quick hits ahead of the Lagers show. No longer

2453
02:06:01,800 --> 02:06:05,800
Speaker 2: the Chad Brendle Show. It's on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

2454
02:06:05,840 --> 02:06:09,120
Speaker 2: Sports station MOE rejoining us Now, Mo, how was your

2455
02:06:09,200 --> 02:06:10,240
Speaker 2: time in Lubbick?

2456
02:06:10,440 --> 02:06:11,839
Speaker 7: It was great until halftime.

2457
02:06:12,120 --> 02:06:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say the first ten minutes were stellar.

2458
02:06:14,960 --> 02:06:17,200
Speaker 7: It was really good. I knew they were in trouble.

2459
02:06:17,280 --> 02:06:20,960
Speaker 7: Eleven fifty eight to go, UC had not missed a shot.

2460
02:06:21,080 --> 02:06:23,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were up by five. Did you because this

2461
02:06:23,800 --> 02:06:26,160
Speaker 2: was apparently a big thing with Dan Patrick today, it's

2462
02:06:26,200 --> 02:06:28,080
Speaker 2: been a big thing with some of our listeners. Did

2463
02:06:28,160 --> 02:06:32,640
Speaker 2: you notice the sound of the Rims as everyone else did. Yeah,

2464
02:06:32,920 --> 02:06:33,160
Speaker 2: it was.

2465
02:06:33,200 --> 02:06:36,400
Speaker 7: Odd sounded fine to me. Huh, I was wrong with them, and.

2466
02:06:36,480 --> 02:06:38,760
Speaker 2: Dan Patrick did a whole segment about how bad they sounded,

2467
02:06:38,880 --> 02:06:41,520
Speaker 2: how he had to turn the audio off if you

2468
02:06:41,600 --> 02:06:43,440
Speaker 2: were listening to the radio. Lass and for the first

2469
02:06:43,560 --> 02:06:46,560
Speaker 2: nine nine shots didn't matter wishes, Yeah.

2470
02:06:46,960 --> 02:06:49,960
Speaker 7: No I didn't. I mean I was there, so I

2471
02:06:50,000 --> 02:06:52,880
Speaker 7: don't know. I didn't watch TV broadcast, But yeah, for

2472
02:06:53,600 --> 02:06:56,440
Speaker 7: for like the first uh eight minutes or so of

2473
02:06:56,480 --> 02:06:59,080
Speaker 7: the game, they were awesome on offense.

2474
02:06:59,360 --> 02:07:04,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Did have no answer for Christian Anderson last night.

2475
02:07:04,320 --> 02:07:05,640
Speaker 2: He was awesome last night.

2476
02:07:05,720 --> 02:07:08,880
Speaker 7: Man, they didn't try as many things as I maybe

2477
02:07:08,920 --> 02:07:11,000
Speaker 7: would have liked to see him try, but I'm not

2478
02:07:11,040 --> 02:07:14,960
Speaker 7: sure it would have mattered. He was awesome. A team

2479
02:07:15,040 --> 02:07:18,120
Speaker 7: is scary, scary even without yeah, the reigning player of

2480
02:07:18,120 --> 02:07:18,480
Speaker 7: the year.

2481
02:07:18,400 --> 02:07:21,440
Speaker 2: In the conference. It's insane to think about. But also

2482
02:07:22,320 --> 02:07:25,240
Speaker 2: if the Bearcats hoped to do anything going forward that

2483
02:07:25,400 --> 02:07:28,760
Speaker 2: the disappearance at times of dayde Thomas has been Yeah,

2484
02:07:29,480 --> 02:07:30,440
Speaker 2: I think alarming.

2485
02:07:30,640 --> 02:07:32,560
Speaker 7: That's the thing though, Like with this team, they've played

2486
02:07:32,600 --> 02:07:36,160
Speaker 7: twenty eight games, and game to game, what are you counting.

2487
02:07:35,960 --> 02:07:40,000
Speaker 2: On as of the last couple Baba Miller and Mustafa Champ,

2488
02:07:40,400 --> 02:07:42,680
Speaker 2: But that's not been consistent every game all year.

2489
02:07:42,840 --> 02:07:45,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, and like I think both guys against Kansas made

2490
02:07:45,400 --> 02:07:48,600
Speaker 7: shots that you don't necessarily go okay going into every game.

2491
02:07:48,680 --> 02:07:50,600
Speaker 2: This is what we have, I thought. I like the

2492
02:07:50,680 --> 02:07:53,880
Speaker 2: fact that they played inside out against Kansas and early

2493
02:07:54,000 --> 02:07:55,880
Speaker 2: last night that I think they got away from it

2494
02:07:55,920 --> 02:07:57,920
Speaker 2: a little bit. But I like playing through the post.

2495
02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:02,120
Speaker 7: I think Mustapha Chomp's good, like I think like legitimately good.

2496
02:08:03,840 --> 02:08:06,240
Speaker 7: I just I don't know what they can go into

2497
02:08:06,320 --> 02:08:08,680
Speaker 7: a game against a good team in that environment and

2498
02:08:08,840 --> 02:08:11,360
Speaker 7: hang their hat on. And so there they are at

2499
02:08:11,400 --> 02:08:14,760
Speaker 7: fifteen and thirteen. But yeah, I'm sure there's gonna be

2500
02:08:14,840 --> 02:08:16,879
Speaker 7: no shortage of people doing the math.

2501
02:08:16,800 --> 02:08:19,360
Speaker 2: To you, am, uh, what do you have coming up

2502
02:08:19,400 --> 02:08:20,240
Speaker 2: on the program? Todack?

2503
02:08:20,320 --> 02:08:22,440
Speaker 7: Like, here's the thing, Like, it's well, if they win

2504
02:08:22,520 --> 02:08:25,680
Speaker 7: their next five, they're in the conversation. Okay, well, yeah,

2505
02:08:25,880 --> 02:08:28,200
Speaker 7: I'm in the conversation to go out with Chloe Fieman.

2506
02:08:28,360 --> 02:08:29,960
Speaker 2: Sure can I go out with her?

2507
02:08:30,320 --> 02:08:30,360
Speaker 30: No?

2508
02:08:30,680 --> 02:08:34,440
Speaker 7: Well we had the conversation like I'm sorry, man, Like

2509
02:08:35,360 --> 02:08:37,080
Speaker 7: I've gotten a bunch of this, Like, well, if they

2510
02:08:37,320 --> 02:08:39,560
Speaker 7: just win like number one, you know what they still

2511
02:08:39,560 --> 02:08:42,200
Speaker 7: have to do. They have to beat BYU here. That's

2512
02:08:42,280 --> 02:08:44,600
Speaker 7: not gonna be easy to go to TCU and will

2513
02:08:44,640 --> 02:08:47,080
Speaker 7: they'll be underdogs in that game and then win multiple

2514
02:08:47,160 --> 02:08:50,280
Speaker 7: games in the conference tournament to be what team number

2515
02:08:50,320 --> 02:08:55,160
Speaker 7: seventy four? Mm hm, Like I I hate to sound annoyed.

2516
02:08:56,160 --> 02:08:56,880
Speaker 7: Maybe I am.

2517
02:08:57,040 --> 02:08:59,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's the same exercise we do

2518
02:08:59,200 --> 02:09:02,360
Speaker 2: seemingly with every team that we talked about, Well, if

2519
02:09:02,400 --> 02:09:04,360
Speaker 2: they hadn't lost that game early on, if they didn't lose,

2520
02:09:04,440 --> 02:09:05,880
Speaker 2: we did it with the Reds, we did it with

2521
02:09:05,920 --> 02:09:06,440
Speaker 2: the Bengals.

2522
02:09:06,600 --> 02:09:09,440
Speaker 7: The problem is not losing Tech. That's a really good team.

2523
02:09:09,480 --> 02:09:11,240
Speaker 7: With a guy in Christian Anderson who was awesome. The

2524
02:09:11,280 --> 02:09:13,760
Speaker 7: problem is it was the thirteenth loss.

2525
02:09:13,560 --> 02:09:16,200
Speaker 2: The Western Michigan's dead laughed in the mouth.

2526
02:09:16,080 --> 02:09:20,120
Speaker 7: Ten and nineteen ten and nineteen like that. Those the

2527
02:09:20,240 --> 02:09:24,160
Speaker 7: Xavier and EMU games loom over this entire season, some

2528
02:09:24,280 --> 02:09:26,520
Speaker 7: of the early season in the Big Twelve. Losses to

2529
02:09:26,600 --> 02:09:31,879
Speaker 7: schools like West Virginia, the UCF game, yeah, the Arizona

2530
02:09:31,920 --> 02:09:35,600
Speaker 7: State loss, like loom over everything at face value. There's

2531
02:09:35,720 --> 02:09:37,920
Speaker 7: no shame in losing on the road to Texas Tech,

2532
02:09:38,040 --> 02:09:42,040
Speaker 7: none whatsoever. The problem is the added importance of those games,

2533
02:09:42,120 --> 02:09:46,040
Speaker 7: and like I you know, hey, if they would have

2534
02:09:46,120 --> 02:09:48,680
Speaker 7: won that game last night, they're on the bubble. Well

2535
02:09:48,680 --> 02:09:50,160
Speaker 7: then you got to play your way off the bubble,

2536
02:09:50,160 --> 02:09:52,120
Speaker 7: which I think is more difficult than people seem to

2537
02:09:52,160 --> 02:09:55,400
Speaker 7: want to realize. But I don't I don't know why

2538
02:09:55,440 --> 02:09:57,720
Speaker 7: it sounds so annoyed with it. What's on the show today, Yeah,

2539
02:09:57,960 --> 02:10:01,560
Speaker 7: or we talk about last Land's game. Paul Tanner Junior

2540
02:10:01,600 --> 02:10:04,280
Speaker 7: from the Combine. Paul's at the Combine.

2541
02:10:04,320 --> 02:10:06,520
Speaker 2: See, I did job. I got you low riled up.

2542
02:10:07,440 --> 02:10:10,920
Speaker 7: That's what I do at the Combine. Uh So is

2543
02:10:10,960 --> 02:10:15,200
Speaker 7: Lindsay Rhodes formerly of the NFL Network, now is SUMER Sports.

2544
02:10:15,240 --> 02:10:16,440
Speaker 7: She is going to be with us in the five

2545
02:10:16,440 --> 02:10:21,400
Speaker 7: o'clock hour. She is at the combine. Hmmm, we're going

2546
02:10:21,480 --> 02:10:24,040
Speaker 7: to talk to her because she is at the combine,

2547
02:10:24,280 --> 02:10:30,680
Speaker 7: the one in Indianapolis. Nope, Indy ninety minutes away.

2548
02:10:31,200 --> 02:10:31,360
Speaker 2: Huh.

2549
02:10:31,800 --> 02:10:33,880
Speaker 7: Rickbrooring Musketeer Report dot Com is going.

2550
02:10:33,840 --> 02:10:35,280
Speaker 2: To be he's at the combine too.

2551
02:10:35,720 --> 02:10:39,280
Speaker 7: No, no, no, he's He's not at the combine, but

2552
02:10:39,320 --> 02:10:39,800
Speaker 7: he's gonna be.

2553
02:10:39,800 --> 02:10:43,000
Speaker 2: On the show. To put to bed those Providence rumors

2554
02:10:43,040 --> 02:10:45,560
Speaker 2: with a very well worded tweet today.

2555
02:10:46,920 --> 02:10:49,400
Speaker 7: Do you think anybody who's been wondering about Richard Pettina

2556
02:10:49,400 --> 02:10:51,440
Speaker 7: go into Providence is going to stop talking about that

2557
02:10:51,520 --> 02:10:52,320
Speaker 7: based on that tweet?

2558
02:10:53,040 --> 02:10:53,080
Speaker 30: No?

2559
02:10:53,480 --> 02:10:54,760
Speaker 2: No, I love it though.

2560
02:10:55,120 --> 02:10:55,240
Speaker 38: Uh.

2561
02:10:55,520 --> 02:10:58,960
Speaker 7: And our guy Stewart W. Penrose from the Manila Law

2562
02:10:59,000 --> 02:11:02,760
Speaker 7: Group on a handful of of sports legal topics.

2563
02:11:02,480 --> 02:11:06,920
Speaker 2: Austin and I discussed today. Yeah, Duke Tobin, he's at

2564
02:11:06,920 --> 02:11:09,880
Speaker 2: the combine. He was asked about taking a big swing.

2565
02:11:10,040 --> 02:11:12,160
Speaker 7: He was talking with people who were at the combine

2566
02:11:12,240 --> 02:11:13,680
Speaker 7: yesterday talking about a big swing.

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Speaker 2: Fascinating. Yeah, and then talking about a big swing, he said, well,

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Speaker 2: you're always looking for one but to take a big swing,

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Speaker 2: you have to realize that you could swing and miss

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Speaker 2: and it requires big compensation. And to me, what I'm

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Speaker 2: kind of at the point here, where can we just

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Speaker 2: take the big swing?

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Speaker 26: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Like that to me sounded like Duke saying, yeah, we

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02:11:34,680 --> 02:11:37,400
Speaker 2: could take a big swing, but that that that's a

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Speaker 2: chance that you you miss on it as well.

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Speaker 7: You know, we talked, we did this last week where

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Speaker 7: the Max Crosby thing came up. Yeah, and I did

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02:11:44,120 --> 02:11:46,480
Speaker 7: the most annoying thing a human human being can do.

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02:11:47,000 --> 02:11:51,200
Speaker 7: I answered a question by asking a question. So should

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Speaker 7: the Bengals trade for Max Crosby? Yeah, that sounds awesome?

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Speaker 7: Can they still satisfy all of their other offseason needs?

2583
02:11:59,280 --> 02:12:00,920
Speaker 7: And if the answer is yes, let's go for it.

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02:12:01,080 --> 02:12:05,839
Speaker 7: It feels like they believe that not only is acquiring

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Speaker 7: Max Crosby be going to be a little bit too

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02:12:07,720 --> 02:12:09,720
Speaker 7: bit too rich for their blood, but also like we

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02:12:09,840 --> 02:12:10,920
Speaker 7: have all this other stuff to do.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean, Duke Tobin said that you feel

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02:12:12,400 --> 02:12:13,360
Speaker 2: like they can win it all? Right now?

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Speaker 7: Okay, well he's kind of in the minority.

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Speaker 2: He did nobody else back to back answers, He said,

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Speaker 2: what do you say we need to.

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Speaker 3: We're good enough to win the Super Bowl, and I

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02:12:24,120 --> 02:12:25,960
Speaker 3: know that I'm the only person who thinks that way.

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02:12:26,480 --> 02:12:28,320
Speaker 2: We have to get better. Let me ask this Duke.

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Speaker 7: Tobin talked at the end of the season for like

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Speaker 7: an hour the Mega Press conference, and then he talked yesterday,

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02:12:33,200 --> 02:12:36,520
Speaker 7: we good on Duke. Those is like this huge yearning

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02:12:36,600 --> 02:12:39,000
Speaker 7: to hear from Duke. Now that we have heard from him,

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Speaker 7: are we okay?

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine be to get access at the combine

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Speaker 2: to maybe be around Duke to hear ask those question.

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Speaker 3: I want to know how many other great draft picks

2604
02:12:48,920 --> 02:12:51,960
Speaker 3: he will reference, because he referenced the trade for Joe,

2605
02:12:53,240 --> 02:12:56,480
Speaker 3: he referenced Geno Atkins is a fourth round pick. He

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02:12:56,640 --> 02:13:00,320
Speaker 3: referenced Andrew Whitworth as best player available twenty years ago.

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02:13:01,760 --> 02:13:02,680
Speaker 7: Sixteen years ago.

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Speaker 2: Was his example of a big sway.

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Speaker 7: I mean, this seems like one of these guys that's like,

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Speaker 7: you know, forty one years old talking about what he

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02:13:09,080 --> 02:13:09,840
Speaker 7: did in high school.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, That's that's exactly what it is.

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Speaker 7: Is that is that what we're just saying, Oh, we

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Speaker 7: stuff that we did a decade and a half ago

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Speaker 7: that people are for, like, g you know, Atkins been

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02:13:18,680 --> 02:13:20,240
Speaker 7: out the league for like six years.

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Speaker 3: Now, but that was it was good about him, the

2618
02:13:22,240 --> 02:13:26,080
Speaker 3: perfect thing to help people realize how they value draft picks.

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Speaker 3: In their mind, every fourth round pick is Geno Atkins.

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Speaker 3: Well that many of them, and as as misguided as

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Speaker 3: that might be, that is that's why they won't trade it.

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Speaker 7: That's he he unveiled it right there. I understand where

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Speaker 7: he's coming from in that regard.

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Speaker 30: I do.

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Speaker 3: Every sixth round pick is Tom Brady, Tom Brady, So

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Speaker 3: take The thing is like, draft picks are valuable, but

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02:13:48,960 --> 02:13:51,680
Speaker 3: they don't necessarily have to be spent on players you

2628
02:13:51,800 --> 02:13:53,600
Speaker 3: take out of college like those.

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Speaker 7: That's currency, and it's currency you could use to get

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Speaker 7: college players cheap labor. It's also current see you could

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Speaker 7: use to get established players. Like, just because you trade

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Speaker 7: a draft pick doesn't mean you don't value it. You're

2633
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Speaker 7: using it to get something. Yep, right, it's it's currency,

2634
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Speaker 7: it's an asset. That's where I think there's a huge disconnect.

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Speaker 7: Could not agree more. Could not agree more.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of the huge walk off win

2637
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Speaker 2: Spring training win number one for the Red.

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Speaker 7: Lly de la Cruz and a Uhano Suarez went back

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Speaker 7: to back. It was strikeouts are homers. We talked off

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Speaker 7: there earlier. There will be so many instances this year

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Speaker 7: where they hit back to back home runs. There's also

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Speaker 7: gonna be a lot of times where it's like runner

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Speaker 7: on second, third, one out, Elly Suarez strikeout back to back,

2644
02:14:36,400 --> 02:14:37,960
Speaker 7: and you're screaming at your TV.

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Speaker 2: But you just kind of have to go with that's

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Speaker 2: what it's going to be this year.

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Speaker 7: Uh yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, with with Gino,

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Speaker 7: there's gonna be a lot of that and not much

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Speaker 7: else besides home runs. With Ellie, you sort of hope

2650
02:14:50,200 --> 02:14:53,760
Speaker 7: he rounds into a more polished hitter and is maybe

2651
02:14:53,800 --> 02:14:55,960
Speaker 7: a little bit better at putting the ball in play.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, that was that was cool yesterday I seen

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Speaker 7: those guys.

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Speaker 2: What do you think Matt mcle wearing the pant leg

2655
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Speaker 2: down early on in spring training.

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Speaker 7: I prefer the pant leg down. Okay, Look, if you're

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Speaker 7: not gonna have actual stirrups, I like the pant leg down.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 7: Now there's a movement of people who like the high socks,

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02:15:12,400 --> 02:15:14,600
Speaker 7: and that's cool. Now, I think if you're gonna go

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Speaker 7: old school stirrup high pant leg, nobody wears the old

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Speaker 7: school stirrup and then pant leg down.

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Speaker 2: You're talking low pant leg or like pant leg tucked

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Speaker 2: under the spike. That looks always sort of stupid, that

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Speaker 2: sort of looks. There's just a lot of good pair

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Speaker 2: of pants low and professional low and professional.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but like how about extremely tight Jonathan Andya Spencer

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Speaker 3: steer type yea, Jonathan India did wear his pants.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not too baggy, not too tight. Wear the pants

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Speaker 2: down just basically the way I wear jeans, and then

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Speaker 2: the whole oven skinny gens oven mits. We're done.

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Speaker 7: My nephew got an oven miant to play baseball this year,

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Speaker 7: but they're not allowed to slide.

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Speaker 3: What's the point behind the oven mitt? Then got took.

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Speaker 3: This is the culture that you provoked with the bat

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02:15:59,080 --> 02:16:01,960
Speaker 3: flip culture. This is wow part of it that you provoke.

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Speaker 7: So these oven mids are my fault.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, part of it.

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Speaker 7: I get the protection, but if you're not allowed to slide.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to get hit in the hand. Running

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Speaker 2: the basis, you gotta look cool, That's what it's all about.

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Speaker 2: If you approachase it, it's like a no situations.

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Speaker 7: Dad was telling me about, and I'm like, so, how

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Speaker 7: much did that run you?

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Speaker 2: They're not cheap. No no, head over to Dick's Sporting Goods.

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Speaker 2: Take a lot mis.

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Speaker 3: Oven myths, have a good shows, Have a great rest

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