1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 2: So let's go to Tucson, Arizona. What we have found 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: out today is that there is video of the individual 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 2: who was suspected of kidnapping, abducting, whatever you want to 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: call it. Nancy Guthrie, the mother of NBC Morning Today's 6 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: Show host Savannah Guthrie, This is been an amazing story, 7 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: an amazing story. 8 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 3: Today the video. 9 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 2: Appeared about one thirty or so, and it just was 10 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 2: shocking because we had told we had been told by 11 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: the authorities, and I say we need the news mean 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: they had been told by the authorities that there was 13 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: there was nothing that nothing that could be done. So 14 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: this was the original video put out by the three 15 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: members of the family, the two daughters and the son. 16 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: Cut number twenty three A rob. 17 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 4: The light is missing from our lives. Nancy is our mother. 18 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 4: We are her children. She is our beacon. 19 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 5: She holds fast to joy in all of life's circumstances. 20 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 5: She chooses joy day after day, despite having already passed 21 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 5: through great trials of pain and grief. We are always 22 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 5: going to be merely human, just normal human people who 23 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 5: need our mom. Mama, Mama, if you're listening, we need 24 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 5: you to come home. We miss you. 25 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: Evening last evening, Savannah Guthrie sounded more desperate. I guess 26 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: I would characterize it cut twenty five Rob. 27 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 6: Hi there, everybody. I wanted to come on and just 28 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 6: share a few thoughts as we enter into another week 29 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 6: of this nightmare. I just want to say, first of all, 30 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 6: thank you so much for all of the prayers and 31 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 6: the love that we have felt, my sister and brother 32 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 6: and I, and that our mom has felt. Because we 33 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 6: believe that somehow, some ways she is feeling these prayers 34 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 6: and that God is lifting her even in this moment 35 00:02:55,760 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 6: and in the darkest place, I believe our mom is. 36 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: Still out there. 37 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 6: We need your help. Law enforcement is working tirelessly around 38 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 6: the clock trying to bring her home, trying to find her. 39 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 6: She was taken and we don't know where. 40 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 3: Well they may know more tonight. 41 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: Savannah got through, spoke last night, got twenty five day Rob. 42 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 6: So I'm coming on just to ask you, not just 43 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 6: for your prayers, but no matter where you are, even 44 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 6: if you're far from Tucson, if you see anything, you 45 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 6: hear anything, if there's anything at all that seems strange, 46 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 6: to you that you report to law enforcement. We are 47 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 6: in an hour of desperation and we need your help. 48 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: And now we're going to go to a CBS News 49 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: special report, the Latest from Tucson. 50 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news Radio. 51 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: Now, I suspect that that some of you might be 52 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: watching cable network news on this story, because of course 53 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: they are twenty four to seven. I checked the mainstream 54 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: media four five and at NBC SO, CBS, ABC and NBC. 55 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: NBC has the Olympics, ABC and CBS are are. They 56 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 2: have not broken regular programming. There's no arrest, there's there's 57 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: someone who's been detained, no indication as to what that 58 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: all means, but it's going to come clear in the 59 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: next couple of days. I know I was stunned today. 60 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: I'd love to know what your reaction was when you 61 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: saw that video, if you if you were watching This 62 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: Afternoon Live when that video became available the FBI released it. Look, 63 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: I've been a critic of the for many, many years, 64 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: and I must say that on this particular case and 65 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 2: also other cases, they have done a good job. Now 66 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 2: I'm told just from listening to news reports today and 67 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: listening to the experts, and some of you probably know 68 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: a lot more about this than I do. That because 69 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 2: me and sy Guthrie did not have a subscription with 70 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 2: Ring Camera or whatever this camera was. And again my 71 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: understanding is that Google, this camera was a product of Google. 72 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: They were able to go back, I guess, and recapture 73 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: the images of this individual who walked up to the 74 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 2: home at that time, and clearly he tried to disable 75 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: the camera. It's an amazing piece of video because it's 76 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: something that took ten days to recover. It is out there. 77 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: I think all of you have seen it now. I 78 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: was beginning to think, and I'd love to know what 79 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 2: you were thinking on this one. I was beginning to 80 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: think that, hey, they may never find this woman. Now 81 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if this they still haven't found her. 82 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if she's being held captive somewhere. I 83 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: don't know if because she didn't have the medicines, the 84 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: medications that she needed, that she's no longer with us. 85 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 2: I mean, there's still plenty of questions to be to 86 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: be answered here and to be asked. But this story 87 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 2: has been moving at a really mock speed in the 88 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: last six or seven hours or maybe now eight or 89 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 2: nine hours. But I just think to myself, this is 90 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 2: this is an example of artificial intelligence in some form 91 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: of fashion. This video, although it had disappeared, some technicians 92 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: in the private sector, were able to bring it back. 93 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: And once this video and the up close video of 94 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 2: this guy, it reminded me very much of when they 95 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: arrested Luigi Mangione in that McDonald's in Pennsylvania a few 96 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: days after he allegedly killed the United Healthcare CEO. He's 97 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: sitting there and there was one person apparently I got 98 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: an assistant manager at the McDonald's who noticed his eyebrows 99 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: of this guy sitting in the corner, and they quietly 100 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: called the local police department, and the local police department 101 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 2: came in, asked him some questions. Apparently he appeared pretty nervous, 102 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: didn't give him the answers that they would have hoped for, 103 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: and decided at that point that hey, this is the 104 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: guy we're going to rest. And this is clearly the 105 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: guy I think, who is God. I'm not going to 106 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: prejudge the case, but and I'll say the word allegedly, 107 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: but it's pretty clear to me that these surrounding circumstances 108 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: suggest that they got their man there, and I believe 109 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: that they will get their man here. So I would 110 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: love you to join the conversation. I can talk all 111 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: night long about this case, but I don't want to 112 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: because this is nice side with Dan Ray and the 113 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: callers out there. Your perspective is as important, no more 114 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: important than mine, because frankly, you may have more knowledge 115 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 2: of this. I have been to Tucson, Arizona, and I 116 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: don't know that I have been in that neighborhood because 117 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: Tucson is a big city. But I do know that 118 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: there are neighborhoods in that part of Arizona where homes 119 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: are very spread out. At night, there's apparently no lights, 120 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: street lights. I guess that they do a lot of 121 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: stargazing down there. I think they may even have some 122 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: NASA facility down there in which there are municipal laws 123 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 2: to prevent a lot of street lighting like we're used 124 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: to up here in the Northeast. So the ring camera video, 125 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 2: which was somehow recovered, just amazing that they can go 126 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: back and I don't know how they do it. Maybe 127 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 2: some of you out there are smaller than I am. 128 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I'm sure many of you 129 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: out there are smarter than I am. How they were 130 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 2: able to go into the system and recover the images 131 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: of this guy who clearly is the guy who approached 132 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 2: the door and at whatever the time it was twelve 133 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: fifty on a Sunday morning and abducted this poor woman. 134 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 2: She's eighty four years old. It sounds like she's living 135 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: alone in the house, no one there to help her, 136 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: no one there to call the police. Apparently she was 137 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: heading towards a every Sunday morning, some form of a 138 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: Sunday morning service. I don't know if it was in 139 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: a church, sure, if it was a group of people. 140 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 2: I heard today in one of the stations that she 141 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 2: it was involved in a worship group and they they 142 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: gathered every Sunday morning. When she didn't show up, people 143 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 2: knew something was wrong. That gave the bad guys at 144 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: least a twelve hour head start. And then I don't 145 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: understand how you can think in this day and age, 146 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: if you're a kidnapper, that you can actually physically abduct someone, 147 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: hold them hostage, and secure millions of dollars somehow. Now 148 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 2: I know it's done electronically, and I guess there are 149 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: many things about this that I don't understand, but if nothing, 150 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: I would hope this would be a lesson to all 151 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: potential kidnappers going forward, that this is a game whose 152 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: time has passed. I mean, in the old days, I 153 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: guess they had a telephone, they couldn't figure out where 154 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: people were calling from it that say, you know, leave 155 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: a briefcase at the corner of you know such and such, 156 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: or leave it in a phone booth at three o'clock 157 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: in the morning, and if there's anyone around, the person 158 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 2: will suffer bad consequences. Anyway, that's I'm going to take 159 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: a quick break here, and I want to see these 160 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 2: lines lit up. I'm looking for suspicions, theories as to 161 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: how this could go on, and how could this kidnapping 162 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 2: fool think that now he may have kidnapped her and 163 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 2: she may have died two days later, but because I 164 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 2: guess her medications were not taken with her. But how 165 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: could this fool stand in front of this ring camera 166 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 2: and try to I guess, detach the ring camera or 167 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: deactivate the ring camera, and in that effort to disguise himself, 168 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 2: he provided I'll be it ten days later, a perfect 169 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: a shot of him. I suspend they have this guy's 170 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: name from several sources at this point six one, seven, two, five, 171 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. 172 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: If this case can be solved, and if particularly if 173 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: Nancy Guthrie is still alive, we should all celebrate and 174 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 2: celebrate greatly because it may augur well kidnapping. You can 175 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 2: think back to the to the Lindbergh baby probably was 176 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: the most famous kidnapping in the history of this country. 177 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: There have been others, but maybe this will end kidnapping 178 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: as a criminal practice. We'll go to phone calls right 179 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: after the break. I promise stay with us. We will continue. 180 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 2: The only lines that are open right now are six one, seven, nine, three, 181 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 2: one ten thirty. 182 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: Fill the lines up back right after this. 183 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio. 184 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: Carol, Let's get it rolling here at nightside Rachel and quinsy. 185 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 3: Rachel, what what are your thoughts? 186 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: Did you think this case would ever be solved? 187 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 7: Hi? 188 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: Dan? 189 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 7: How are you? I? Yes, I do. And so when 190 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 7: you look at that mask and you look at over 191 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 7: the lip, did jet black mustache? That's one? And Dan, 192 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 7: when you said something about the eyebrows. I am not 193 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 7: kidding you. When I saw his eyebrows, I'm like, Okay, 194 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 7: they're almost perfect eyebrows. That's the first thing I said. 195 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 7: I'm like, eyebrows, that mustache, and the fact that with 196 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 7: the you know, the money that they wanted and whatever, 197 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 7: this person stopped. I really truly think that it's the 198 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 7: son in law I do. 199 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 2: I don't want Rachel Rachel, Rachel, Rachel, Rachel, Rachel. I 200 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: don't want to go there, Okay, because I tried to 201 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: explain to Lola from San Diego the other night, We're 202 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 2: not in the business here of identifying suspects. 203 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 3: Okay, It's as simple as that. 204 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: And I know that some of you read newspapers, you 205 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: listen to other shows, and I be my company will 206 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: be libel if if if someone like you or Rola 207 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 2: from San Diego implicates an innocent person, because at that 208 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: point we will listen. 209 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 3: Please, Rachel, please listen to me. 210 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: Because we do not have the defense as a radio 211 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: station to say, well, it was on another radio station 212 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: and our and our call or mentioned that as a possibility. No, 213 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: if we if we further amplify an allegation that turns 214 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: out to be untrue. We are as libel as the 215 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 2: radio station or newspaper or or whomever who started it. 216 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 3: So I'm just asking you don't go there, Okay, I. 217 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 7: Apologize, No apology necessary. 218 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, as long as you understand the law and the 219 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 2: FCC regulations under which we're very free country, we can 220 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: pretty much say what we want, but we can't defame people. 221 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: We can't slander people, and we can't recirculate defamation and 222 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: slander that might be directed at someone else. So if 223 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: it's okay with you, so. 224 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 7: I guess I can just say, look at the eyebrows. 225 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 2: You can say that, but don't but you know, don't 226 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: tell me that you think it was Luigi Mangioni or whatever. 227 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: So Rachel, I'm gonna let you go here because I 228 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: gotta keep rolling. Okay, thank you for your Thank you, Rachel, 229 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: God bless you too. Let me go to Andrew and 230 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: Rockland and you Andrew, welcome next on Nightside. 231 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 3: Dan. How you doing, I'm doing better right now? Go ahead, Andrew. 232 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 8: So, I just I don't know what to think of 233 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 8: the case. If it's legit, I do think that whoever 234 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 8: did it's gonna get caught. I don't know how you 235 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 8: could do something like that at this day and age. 236 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 8: But I wanted to ask you if you saw the 237 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 8: whole Silence of the Lambs reference there where they compared 238 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 8: the two videos she was they were like legit talking 239 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 8: about the mother on one interview and pleading for her safe return, 240 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 8: and the wording was the same exact wording that the 241 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 8: mother used the Silence of the Lambs to describe her 242 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 8: daughter and bringing her back. Oh, I found it very, 243 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 8: very strange. I don't know if you've seen that yet. 244 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: I have not seen. I have not seen that. I 245 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: have not seen reference to that. It could be I 246 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: don't think. 247 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 3: I know. 248 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: Look, Savannah, Savannah Guthrie is an intelligent woman as that 249 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: you know she She's worked in the business a long time. 250 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: It might be that people who find themselves in situations 251 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 2: like this which are just impossible to imagine what must 252 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: have been going through her mind that she relied on 253 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: similar phraseology. 254 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 3: I don't think. 255 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe I just find it so bizarre that it's 256 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 8: like she's kind of Hollywood and that movie is obviously 257 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 8: made in Hollywood. 258 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 3: Well, she's got Hollywood, She's she looked. So then I 259 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 3: got through New York City. 260 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: She works as a host of the Today's Today's show 261 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 2: That Ain't Hollywood. 262 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 3: Together? Get it? I get it. 263 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't think that they would say, hmm, 264 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 2: let me go and see what what they said in 265 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 2: silas of the Lips. 266 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 8: It's very it's very strange the movie. It's almost word 267 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 8: for word that what she said. 268 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: You know, if you, if you, if you get a chance. 269 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 2: I don't know where you did you see that in 270 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 2: some some newspaper article or was it? 271 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 3: Okay, I will find it. 272 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 8: Yeah, you'll definitely find it. ID do some research on it. 273 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 8: I found out that it is real and she really 274 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 8: but they basically said the same thing that you just 275 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 8: said that Maybe it's just negotiators telling her to say it, 276 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 8: you know. 277 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: Well, I also think that it could be that that 278 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: what was in her heart happened to me what was 279 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 2: in the script of a great movie. 280 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 3: I loved that movie. 281 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 2: I thought it was the scariest, one of the scariest 282 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 2: movies I ever saw. Yeah, to live something like that 283 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: in real life, wow, unbelievable. Yeah, hey, Andrew, appreciate the call. 284 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 2: Thank you, Minch. Yeah, all right, pal, talk to you. 285 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 2: Let me go to Chuck and Plymouth, Chuck, gonna get 286 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 2: you in here under the wire so you don't have 287 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 2: to wait through the year. 288 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 9: Great, thanks for taking a call, buddy, I mean, you're welcome. 289 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 9: How many calls? 290 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 5: Man? 291 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 9: They think they're playing clue. But I just think that overall, 292 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 9: this guy was not very well prepared as much as 293 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 9: many people think he was. One, How's he not like 294 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 9: scan that door before he does this and find out 295 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 9: that there's a ring camera there so he has tape. Two, 296 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 9: How's he have a whole her in front of his 297 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 9: growing and not realize that, you know, you look like 298 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 9: a clown. 299 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 7: I also think. 300 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes those those those those pistols can go off inadvertently. 301 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean he hit a piece of wood. You're 302 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 9: in trouble. But I just think in general that the 303 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 9: one thing we're missing out here. First of all, the 304 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 9: ring camera. It wasn't a ring okay, it was it 305 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 9: was a nest camera. I think that I think that 306 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 9: we don't have the resources because evidently she didn't have 307 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 9: a subscription to go back and hit replay. But I 308 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 9: think when you throw around sagain, Savannah guph of your 309 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 9: money or her husband's money. Somehow Google finds that video 310 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 9: all of a sudden, you're able to find it money talks. 311 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 9: I think, yeah, I would. 312 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 2: I would also think that because it's such a high 313 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: profile case, Google probably cooperated totally with the Well, then. 314 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 9: Why doesn't bitcoin cooperate and say, hey, okay, here's the 315 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 9: guy's account, here's the guy that set it up. Because 316 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 9: bitcoin is built on people's amonymity, with you know, potentially 317 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 9: promiscuous or fraudulent money being put in there. So this 318 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 9: guy sets up an account, he's smart enough to do 319 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 9: it so that Hey, you're not going to hear from me. 320 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 9: Here's my account, put it in. 321 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 2: No more questions, but commission, let me ask you count 322 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: you with bitcoin? 323 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 3: Hide your identity? 324 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 9: Isn't that well, that's the whole thing. Like Apple, Apple 325 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 9: never gives it up right, and there's no little asterisk 326 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 9: that says unless you committed a crime. Here's the other thing. 327 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 9: You will never never know Dan did Savannah Guthrie? Hey, 328 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 9: this guy or supposedly a guy. I mean it's some 329 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 9: women with some Harry lips Hey, this person some money 330 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 9: and the authorities will never let you know because if 331 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 9: you pay him six million dollars in bitcoin and she's 332 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 9: already dead, they're gonna excuse me, we need twelve and 333 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 9: then it's going to open the floodgates. I got news 334 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 9: for you. If it was my mother in law and 335 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 9: you wanted six million dollars to save her, I'd be like, hey, 336 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,479 Speaker 9: I'll give you twelve million if you just keep her. 337 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: That's just me well that that might be a problem 338 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 2: with your mother in law. Hey, I got a run 339 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 2: chuck uh all right, all right, good night, here comes 340 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 2: the news. We'll have the latest on this, I promise 341 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 2: you during the next hour. Join the conversation six one, seven, two, five, 342 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 2: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one, ten thirty. 343 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 3: It's night side with Dan Ray. You're a night side 344 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 3: Let's hear from you.