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Speaker 1: Six here at fifty five KRC DE talk station. By

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Speaker 1: Time's wishing you a very very happy Wednesday, inviting you

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Speaker 1: to listener, Launch Price, sil Chiley and welcoming back to

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Speaker 1: the fifty five KRC Morning Show. The next Governor of

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Speaker 1: the State of Ohio, Vive Ramaswamy. Mister Ramaswamy, it is

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Speaker 1: a distinct pleasure to have you on the program. Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: my friend.

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Speaker 2: Great to be on. Just finished morning drop off for

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Speaker 2: the kids at school, and no way, no better way

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Speaker 2: to start the day than catch up with you, Brian.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that, and good for you being a father

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Speaker 1: that you're supposed to be. You don't delegate that responsibility.

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Speaker 1: You're taking the kids to school. That's great and I'm

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Speaker 1: glad to hear it. And probably you're insisting on a

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Speaker 1: great education, are you. Are they involved in the classical education?

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Speaker 1: I hate to bring that up out of nowhere, vv, but.

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Speaker 2: So they're very young, I mean, my my youngest one's three, oh,

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Speaker 2: that's five. But we have we have toured a number

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Speaker 2: of the classical schools, and particularly in Columbus, and I

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Speaker 2: have been impressed. Right they think about the ways in

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Speaker 2: which our traditional academic standards and educational standards have gradually

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Speaker 2: declined in the last thirty years, and you see a

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Speaker 2: lot of these innovative approaches, including classical education. You know,

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Speaker 2: they're incorporating Singapore math, They're incorporating classical approaches even from

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Speaker 2: studying even ancient languages. I think these are important for

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Speaker 2: young people to develop in the modern world. And that's

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Speaker 2: a longer conversation we can have.

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Speaker 1: Of course, not to dwell on this too much, because

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Speaker 1: we want to talk with Turning Point in USA and

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Speaker 1: how your campaign's going. But I know part of your

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Speaker 1: campaign involves helping and helping young people excel in math

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Speaker 1: and reading and critical thinking. And I have to ask

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Speaker 1: you just straightforward, because I am literally frightened for America

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Speaker 1: when I see the public education proficiency scores. When I

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Speaker 1: read about college educated students, or rather high school educated

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Speaker 1: students to get into college and they can't even manage

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Speaker 1: eighth grade level mathematics, yet they graduated within a and

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Speaker 1: got a diploma. I mean, I weep for the future

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Speaker 1: of our country. And part of me makes me, part

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Speaker 1: of this makes me think that this is something nefarious.

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Speaker 1: It's almost as if we're raising a nation of idiots

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Speaker 1: who can be easily manipulated by the morons who are

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Speaker 1: trying to steer us towards socialism in this country. Sorry

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Speaker 1: to be so blunt, mister Ramaswami.

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Speaker 2: Well, especially as we think about entering an era of

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Speaker 2: AI and technology and automation, it's all the more important

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Speaker 2: to have cultivated citizens who are able to think independently

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Speaker 2: for themselves. And at the end of the day, that responsibility, Brian,

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Speaker 2: falls on us. Not up to us to blame anybody

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Speaker 2: else for a nefarious plot. It's up to us to

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Speaker 2: really step up as parents, as citizens to cultivate the

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Speaker 2: next generation of young people. You said it well, and

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Speaker 2: to be honest with you, a lot of people on

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Speaker 2: the left would get upset at me over the last

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Speaker 2: half decade when I said about the woke left standards

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Speaker 2: eroding merit and academic standards. But to be honest, sometimes

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Speaker 2: when I say it, there may be voices on the

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Speaker 2: right who are upset to hear the same message. But

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Speaker 2: the truth hurts because it's true. Wow, students are underperforming

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Speaker 2: kids in other countries. Seventy five percent of eighth graders

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Speaker 2: now are not proficient in math, and that's unacceptable. To us.

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Speaker 2: It's not going to change overnight. But the way I'm

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Speaker 2: going to change it in Ohio is bringing standards back

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Speaker 2: to public education. The idea of one hundred percent third

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Speaker 2: grade literacy as a guarantee for every kid who's medically capable.

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Speaker 2: We're going to get that done in this state. Numeracy standards,

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Speaker 2: algebra competence by the end of eighth grade should be

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Speaker 2: a goal for every student. Civic competence by the time

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Speaker 2: you graduate from high school. You know, I think every

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Speaker 2: should have to pass the same Civics test that every

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Speaker 2: legal immigrant has to pass before that immigrant becomes a

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Speaker 2: naturalized citizen. That's just common sense. And you know this

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Speaker 2: is controversial, mostly on the left, but even to some

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Speaker 2: on certain fringes of the right, And it doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: to me. That's the truth. It's what we have to

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Speaker 1: Well, one bright spot, and I know it was a

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Speaker 1: tragedy beyond tragedies when Charlie Kirk was murdered. Just horrific,

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Speaker 1: age folks to pursue a Turning Point USA chapter. The

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Speaker 1: number of new chapters has ballooned, and I understand that

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I think the idea of young people being

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Speaker 2: hungry for something greater than what they're being served up

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Speaker 2: by their culture, that's been true for the last couple

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Speaker 2: decades in our country. And Charlie Kirk, better than anybody

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Speaker 2: I know, understood that and provided an alternative vision of citizenship,

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Speaker 2: an alternative vision of reviving faiths and family and patriotism

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Speaker 2: and hard work. The last time I saw him was

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Speaker 2: Delaware County, Ohio, one on one when he visited just

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Speaker 2: two weeks before his assassination. And I do feel some

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Speaker 2: sense of responsibility as a friend of Charlie's, as somebody

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Speaker 2: of the Turning Point pack and some of their affiliated entities,

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Speaker 2: which I wasn't able to do. But the fact that

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Speaker 2: he and I traveled the country for so much of

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Speaker 2: the last year gives me a special sense of mission

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Speaker 2: to make sure we're continuing to carry out that work

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Speaker 2: of motivating young people to think independently, to speak their

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Speaker 2: country where we don't always agree on everything, not all

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Speaker 2: the time, of course we don't, but we could still

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Speaker 2: disagree vehemently and view ourselves as fellows citizens rather than

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Speaker 2: enemies to be conquered and win through persuasion, which is

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Speaker 2: something that we've lost in modern politics, is even the

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Speaker 2: idea that you could persuade someone rather than to force

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Speaker 2: them into defeat versus loss. Persuasion is a lost art.

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Speaker 2: And that's a big part of what Charlie did with

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Speaker 2: our work across these campuses.

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Speaker 1: And that they very well be the reason the Turning

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Speaker 1: that these liberals, they start pulling their hair out and

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Speaker 1: screaming in anguish. Oh my god, a Turning Point USA

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Speaker 2: To stop it.

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Speaker 1: They're afraid of that very debate you discuss.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think that's historically, if you look at

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Speaker 2: if you scratch beneath the Service Brian, people are hungry

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Speaker 2: for something different than the direction of just the politics

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Speaker 2: of defeating opposition through silencing, through canceling, through censorship. Now

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Speaker 2: I don't care whether you're on the left or the right.

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Speaker 2: We don't believe in this kind of cancel culture. We

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Speaker 2: don't believe in this kind of victimhood culture. And that's

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Speaker 2: the message I'm hoping to hoping to deliver tonight. We

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Speaker 2: were at the University of Cincinnati on Monday night, great discussion,

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Speaker 2: wholesome conversations. There were students from the left, from the right,

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Speaker 2: want to start businesses, but were interested in what this

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Speaker 2: We're going to be at Miami University tonight continuing that conversation,

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Speaker 2: they're looking for purpose. A lot of them are skeptical

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Speaker 2: American dream. They're very cynical about the American dream because

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Speaker 2: And so they're cynical about the American dream. But our

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Speaker 2: confidence in it. And that's what I'm going to do

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Speaker 2: we're going to do it.

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Speaker 1: You will, indeed. Then that's why I have so much

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Speaker 1: confidence in you your candidacy and encourage my listeners to

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Speaker 1: the next governor of the state of Ohio, and he

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Speaker 1: will lead with confidence and we will put Ohio. You

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Speaker 1: will put Ohio back on the map. I'm confident of that.

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Speaker 2: In your platform, We're going to make it happen and

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Speaker 2: it's a team effort to get there, and to tell

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Speaker 2: you the truth, we're gonna do it in a positive way.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, by the time we're done, Brian,

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Speaker 2: we want Texas and Florida to be following Ohio's lead

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Speaker 2: rather than the other way around. I think we're going

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Speaker 1: That's a hell of an aspiration. Be big, Ramaswamy. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for the time you spend today. I hope to have

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Speaker 1: next November. Keep up the great work and good luck

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Speaker 1: with the event this evening now you too, my friend,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks much. It's eight sixteen here fifty five

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