Speaker 1: In American way to midweek, here we go Scott's flown
Speaker 1: back on seven hundred w WELW. He called it intolerable.
Speaker 1: One of the latest, the longest list of adjectives I've
Speaker 1: ever heard about crime in Cincinnati. The new one is intolerable.
Speaker 1: That would be your adjective of the day, is what
Speaker 1: mayor have to Puerval called the violence downtown, the back
Speaker 1: to back shootings on Fountain Square and says significant changes
Speaker 1: are coming after all that. So we're going to see
Speaker 1: swat on Fountain Square. We're going to see the Civil
Speaker 1: Disturbance Response Team whatever that is, on Fountain Square, and
Speaker 1: it's going to look like parts of Gaza. Chief Terry
Speaker 1: Thiji is commanding her officers to make contact with people
Speaker 1: for even the most minor offenses. That's called the broken
Speaker 1: windows theory of policing, which is just absolutely as sailed
Speaker 1: for years by progressives, is just punching down on people
Speaker 1: and stopping them and causing distrust in the community. And now,
Speaker 1: guess what turns out that strategy might work a little bit. Huh.
Speaker 1: But before the Mayor's Presser Council had a public safety
Speaker 1: hearing yesterday, it was really hard to hear that, and
Speaker 1: you could hear the frustration from residents.
Speaker 2: Listen, I am not able to tell future tenants and
Speaker 2: they would be safe.
Speaker 3: I've been down the district to a couple times myself.
Speaker 3: I just don't feel like we're getting the results that
Speaker 3: we need to make our tenants feel safe. It feels
Speaker 3: like something has shifted.
Speaker 1: Two of our best friends who live in the neighborhood
Speaker 1: have decided to move.
Speaker 3: The violence has just gotten out of control.
Speaker 1: Honest and more is council member Anna, I'll be with
Speaker 1: law in public safety. She sits on the committee and
Speaker 1: sat through that difficult testimony yesterday, Anna, good morning, how
Speaker 1: you been by?
Speaker 4: Good morning? Thanks got having me. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, your reaction when you're sitting there listening to
Speaker 1: all these people say, look, I have his investment of property,
Speaker 1: and I'm a landlord who I feel him is imagine going, hey,
Speaker 1: I have people who won't rent because they afraid they're
Speaker 1: going to get shot, or someone has said, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: my circle of friends, they're all moving out because they've
Speaker 1: got small kids, or they just fear their safety. That
Speaker 1: was some of the most telling testimony I think I've
Speaker 1: heard in a long time, and it shows you how
Speaker 1: far gone things are. What was your immediate reaction.
Speaker 4: Well, immediately in the moment, I made sure my staff
Speaker 4: got all those folks compact information, and I was taking
Speaker 4: diligent notes. You know, I take all of this very
Speaker 4: very seriously. You know, public safety, making sure people feel
Speaker 4: safe is my number one priority, and I know that shared.
Speaker 4: So I followed up afterwards with the city manager and
Speaker 4: the police chief listing out the issues that we heard.
Speaker 4: I took notes on the exact location, so you know
Speaker 4: we're going to take action here. I also spoke with
Speaker 4: the assistant police chief yesterday about another issue that was
Speaker 4: brought to my attention. So we're really taking action here
Speaker 4: and using police based solutions to really dig into what's
Speaker 4: happening in this specific spot to make sure that we
Speaker 4: can everyone feels safe, feel safe in our safe right.
Speaker 4: It'stion plus reality.
Speaker 1: I'm hereath the Grapevines about Well, we heard this small
Speaker 1: learning about Jeff Ruby's Lempica, which used to be the
Speaker 1: main location in the Art deco restaurant on Seventh Street,
Speaker 1: and they've now turned that into an event space. Actually,
Speaker 1: I was at a wedding there a few months ago.
Speaker 1: And this absolutely spectaculars way over the top. It's so nice.
Speaker 1: They're closing that location and maybe a beef with the
Speaker 1: landlord with Town Properties, which I get because there's some
Speaker 1: safety issues like door if not being locked and things
Speaker 1: like that, and so we don't feel safe and our
Speaker 1: businesses compromise. So we're closing that up despite a huge
Speaker 1: investment in that. Don't know what it's going to become
Speaker 1: in the future, if anything, but that's a loss, and
Speaker 1: they're moving their business operations to Wallut Street. But you know,
Speaker 1: behind these scenes, I guess they're hearing rumors that there's
Speaker 1: maybe some threats there saying, hey, we if we got
Speaker 1: gun you know, people shooting each other on Fountain Square
Speaker 1: across from our beautiful flagship restaurant on Fountain Square. And
Speaker 1: now we've had the shooting the other we had what
Speaker 1: two shootings in the last few days on Fountain Square,
Speaker 1: like right in front of Rubies. That's not a place
Speaker 1: where people are gonna feel safe coming to. Our clientele's
Speaker 1: not gonna be safe. We're gonna have to we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to move. Losing that would send I think a
Speaker 1: tutle wave of problems for those who sit on council
Speaker 1: and those who seek to be re elected or elected
Speaker 1: might be a good thing for them. But I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's true or not, Anna, but that that's
Speaker 1: really really telling there. If we have flagship restaurants, if
Speaker 1: we have the culinary name in Cincinnati going, we can't
Speaker 1: be in Cincinnati. You lost.
Speaker 4: So I can't comment on you know, the speaks of
Speaker 4: landlords or any of that details. I know probably as
Speaker 4: much as you reading in the press. But again, this
Speaker 4: council and mayor and administration, we're truly taking action. You
Speaker 4: heard yesterday from the slice chief and the mayor new
Speaker 4: plans around Sountain Square, both from looking at transportation patterns
Speaker 4: what we need to do to kind of spread out
Speaker 4: the people and make sure that we have bet Are coverage,
Speaker 4: also bringing in additional support from law enforcement. So that
Speaker 4: is the work we're doing. I mean, I think what
Speaker 4: was most shocking to me was the most recent an
Speaker 4: incident and where it's the fact that we had four
Speaker 4: officers there.
Speaker 5: Yep, right, and.
Speaker 4: That's that's just shocking behavior. I think we all just
Speaker 4: have to name it that that is insane.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 4: However, many years ago, knowing that four officers were a
Speaker 4: matter of yards away from you would have been at
Speaker 4: a turrent. So you know this, this is a new level,
Speaker 4: and we are stepping up to the plate to provide
Speaker 4: more resources, new resources, partnering with the governor, partnering with
Speaker 4: the sheriff's office, doing all of that work to really
Speaker 4: try to tackle what's happening.
Speaker 1: But isn't that an indication Anna that it's too far gone?
Speaker 1: I mean that, you know, it's not like everyone's gonna
Speaker 1: pull up stakes. But you know, all this action now, okay, great,
Speaker 1: but if the bad guys aren't obeying law enforcement, there's
Speaker 1: a cop standing right there, I'm gonna shoot at you anyway.
Speaker 1: All the adjectives, all the superlatives, all the patrols, all
Speaker 1: the curfews. What you're saying is it hasn't done anything
Speaker 1: to stop the violence. And that then tells me that
Speaker 1: we moved that, that our leaders moved way too late
Speaker 1: on us.
Speaker 4: You know, here, here's what I would say. It would
Speaker 4: be really helpful if we had support from the state
Speaker 4: in terms of laws, because there are too many guns
Speaker 4: on our street. And you know, I'm going to talk
Speaker 4: about this all day. It is too easy to get
Speaker 4: firearms legally and too we can get them easily illegally
Speaker 4: as well. And so it'll be really great if Ohio
Speaker 4: had some stronger gun laws or we could actually go
Speaker 4: after getting somebod climb off the street harder. And you
Speaker 4: know that's part of the work of the Crime Gun
Speaker 4: Intelligence Center, and we partner with the APS, with local
Speaker 4: law enslorcement, the Ohio State controls helping us with us like,
Speaker 4: there are too many guns, and I think we just
Speaker 4: all need to acknowledge are too many guns on our streets.
Speaker 4: And that is why I'm really passionate about we need
Speaker 4: stronger laws at the state level, hopefully at the federal
Speaker 4: level that actually empower us to go get the firearms
Speaker 4: pop of the handle games with people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I let me push back on that. A couple
Speaker 1: of points. Number one would be we have federal laws.
Speaker 1: The law says if you are a felon and you
Speaker 1: you're carrying a gun, you've now escalated that you go
Speaker 1: to prison. And yet we have judges, largely progressive judges
Speaker 1: that see juveniles, that see people go, oh, you got
Speaker 1: a gun. You're not supposed to have a gun. You
Speaker 1: cut your ankle, bonder, Yeah, you're good, go ahead, It's fine,
Speaker 1: we'll catch it a later date. I mean, weep. You
Speaker 1: keep calling for tougher laws, but you're not enforcing the
Speaker 1: laws in the books. Why aren't we getting tougher with
Speaker 1: people who are who end up getting jammed up with
Speaker 1: a gun and they right out of a felony. That's
Speaker 1: that's called having a gun to disability. And I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but we have judges in Cincinnati that allow that.
Speaker 4: Hey, our judges are making sure that laws are performed
Speaker 4: and executed.
Speaker 1: And are they're not, otherwise they wouldn't have this.
Speaker 4: Hey, agree to disagree on this one, right, That's that's fair.
Speaker 4: But you know, at the end of the day, I
Speaker 4: think we have too many guns. I support the work
Speaker 4: of our Crime Intelligence Center going after those because it is.
Speaker 4: It was shocking to me to watch the video in
Speaker 4: the Prep Sumping District with the police chief and how
Speaker 4: casually someone was able to just pull gun out, shoot
Speaker 4: shoot at people and walk away. Right, That's that's horrifict
Speaker 4: We can all right.
Speaker 1: Because they know there's no consequences if I do that.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, officers are on the scene pretty pretty quickly, right,
Speaker 4: So like it now, it's a matter of putting together
Speaker 4: the case and going through with that and that again,
Speaker 4: that is where we have to do off into the
Speaker 4: job from the city perspective of putting together strong cases
Speaker 4: so our judges have all the information. And frankly, we're
Speaker 4: doing work to working with the judicial system on improving
Speaker 4: our technology in the courtrooms making sure that information is
Speaker 4: more readily available that we had that we were able
Speaker 4: to provide all that case information. So here's the I'm
Speaker 4: the only only to my family who's not a lawyer.
Speaker 4: My brother is actually a prosecutor in the Federal Office
Speaker 4: and VC. But you know, these lawyers, you know, haveing
Speaker 4: making sure the prosecutors have all the information that day
Speaker 4: in front of them with technology, that is a big
Speaker 4: challenge right now. So we are working the city puts
Speaker 4: dollars together and there's a whole kind of task force
Speaker 4: with our judges where we're making sure that we're empowering
Speaker 4: our judges and our prosecutors and our officers with all
Speaker 4: the technologies to make sure all that information is at
Speaker 4: their fingertips. Decisions are being made off the.
Speaker 1: Court, but the problem is they're not. And you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think gun laws may do something in the future,
Speaker 1: probably not because I think the other element of two
Speaker 1: analby is how are the people, especially juveniles, getting guns
Speaker 1: so well they're breaking into cars? Well, why are people
Speaker 1: live in guns and cars? Is because I think a
Speaker 1: couple of things. Number one would be there's a lot
Speaker 1: of places we are not allowed to carry by law,
Speaker 1: and so I say, hey, I don't feel safe in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: If I come downtown, I'm gonna come with a gun,
Speaker 1: come heavy and okay. If I got to go somewhere
Speaker 1: to leave in my car, I think that's just a
Speaker 1: It's like a self fulfilling prophecy. The more unsafe people feel,
Speaker 1: the more they feel they need to arm themselves. They
Speaker 1: can't bring it in, so they're leaving the car, which
Speaker 1: encourages people to break into cars and steal guns.
Speaker 4: You have talked about secure firearm storage in cars of force,
Speaker 4: So I know, no, this is a place where we
Speaker 4: can both agree in terms of making sure that you know,
Speaker 4: if a gun, if you're bringing it downtown, that's pure legal, right,
Speaker 4: let's have it locked up.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 4: So we're doing a couple of things. One, we're increasing
Speaker 4: our requirements when it comes to parking garages and parking
Speaker 4: lots on what's needed in terms of better lighting, can landscaping, security,
Speaker 4: and then we're also going to have PtD go out
Speaker 4: and provide a feeding system for all those garages. So
Speaker 4: you as a responsible citizens driving downtown to say, oh,
Speaker 4: because of an ADC or D, whatever the scale is,
Speaker 4: this is a safe place that's meeting the security requirements.
Speaker 4: This isn't right, So caret and a stick approach. But
Speaker 4: in addition to that, I've been working with CPD and
Speaker 4: we've started handing out gun space for cars. At the
Speaker 4: last few home bangals games, that's the home most opener.
Speaker 4: We had over seventy seven people come up and grab
Speaker 4: a gun law, and so that's the work I'm trying.
Speaker 3: To do it.
Speaker 1: As a gun owner myself, I like, okay, I think
Speaker 1: you know, I hate more burden on people like myself
Speaker 1: because the overwhelming majority, almost all the gunners are responsible people.
Speaker 1: You know, talk about the guns on the streets and
Speaker 1: it's getting out there because responsible people are tired of
Speaker 1: de policing and you know, the lax enforcement of our laws.
Speaker 1: I got all these laws that I have to buy
Speaker 1: buy as a Second Amendment rights holder, but and it
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like the criminal element cares about that they're
Speaker 1: going to rob my stuff. It's that's the frustration. But
Speaker 1: I agree. I think that if you're responsible gun, there's
Speaker 1: gotta be something relative to making sure your gun when
Speaker 1: it's stored safely, not just in a you know, a
Speaker 1: console or a glove box or into the seat or
Speaker 1: see something along those lines. It has to be in
Speaker 1: a physical safe that that should be by rule. She's
Speaker 1: council member and I'll be sits on law in public safety,
Speaker 1: hearing it from citizens yesterday in a meeting, people saying
Speaker 1: what am I going to tell prospective tenants if they
Speaker 1: ask if it are going to be safe downtown and
Speaker 1: people moving out, and it is unraveling when you see
Speaker 1: gunfire and consecutive and what three over the course of
Speaker 1: a weekend. Basically we had two shootouts the other one
Speaker 1: of the other night where someone who was sitting at
Speaker 1: City Bird and someone pulls out a gun, fires a
Speaker 1: couple of shots in the window. Still haven't caught the
Speaker 1: guy yet, And I think we need to make examples
Speaker 1: of these people. I really really do on that. One
Speaker 1: of the problems is, as I understand it, as you
Speaker 1: understand it too, isn't it like people getting off at
Speaker 1: the metro station of Government Square, and then then that's
Speaker 1: where the beats start.
Speaker 4: So I think it's lots of you know, people getting
Speaker 4: off there and more of just how do we spread
Speaker 4: out kind of the mass of people, if that makes sense. Right,
Speaker 4: We have a lot of people coming in at once.
Speaker 4: So that's part of the what the mayor is working
Speaker 4: with sorta on is, hey, how do we kind of
Speaker 4: distribute these bus routes a little bit more again, makes
Speaker 4: it easier for us to have you know, coverage when
Speaker 4: it comes to officers and all of that. So you know,
Speaker 4: I'm not I just want to be really clear, there
Speaker 4: is no part of this so the saying that people
Speaker 4: use our wonderful public transportation or criminals, that's not what
Speaker 4: we're saying. But we're trying to use some place based
Speaker 4: problem solving here, right, And if we're seeing, you know,
Speaker 4: kind of a cluster of issues happening around one space,
Speaker 4: how can we spread out the people the bodies right
Speaker 4: to maybe just use some of the conflict because what
Speaker 4: I'm under how I understand it is some of these
Speaker 4: are starting as personal talk with right, Like people are
Speaker 4: getting into fights and unfortunately they're armed and that's vacillating.
Speaker 1: That's that's what the last two we're talking about worst,
Speaker 1: you know, just stupid street beefs between people who knew
Speaker 1: each other.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and that's where some of the reflections
Speaker 4: I've been doing frankly, over the past day and a half,
Speaker 4: it's been it's just been around, how do we, you know,
Speaker 4: teach conflict resolution. I know that sounds maybe very but
Speaker 4: you know, how do we help people, even starting in
Speaker 4: our schools, And these are conversations I've had with our
Speaker 4: school boards start kind of teaching conflict drives. We have
Speaker 4: a young age, so people can learn how that's turned
Speaker 4: down the temperature, sure, because it's just it's just you know,
Speaker 4: too easy.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, that's true of all of us. But that
Speaker 1: doesn't fix the now we have. You know, we have
Speaker 1: adults acting like toddlers and they have guns, and that's
Speaker 1: the unfortunate part. My point is, and maybe something that
Speaker 1: should be explored is I'll be honest with you, I
Speaker 1: and when I talk to cops and others saying, you know, Metro,
Speaker 1: it's like this funnel and not you're certainly not everyone
Speaker 1: who's ride the Metro that most people are just trying
Speaker 1: to get from point A to point being live their lives.
Speaker 1: But you've got criminal elements on there kind of looking
Speaker 1: for trouble. We've heard horror stories about metrobus drivers getting
Speaker 1: shot and everything else. And it largely centers around Metro
Speaker 1: the Government Square station, and it's such a critical area
Speaker 1: to our infrastructure that's now spilling over to Fountain Square itself.
Speaker 1: You know, we have the Fort Washington away underground garage.
Speaker 1: It's not going used. And I know the cry was,
Speaker 1: well it's too far from Fountain Square. You know what
Speaker 1: you need. I'm sorry, But if for me I've closed
Speaker 1: that Government Square metro station, I'd make it a stop.
Speaker 1: I'd move everything to Fort Washington a way. You have
Speaker 1: an entrance and egress points. You can monitor that with cameras,
Speaker 1: you could have gunspotder technology, face technology. You have a
Speaker 1: confined area that you can easily police and shut it
Speaker 1: down if you have to, and you can control who's
Speaker 1: coming in and coming out. More importantly, keep an eye
Speaker 1: on people and lock it down if you have to.
Speaker 1: To get a bad guy with a gun and then run,
Speaker 1: I don't know, run a shuttle or a bus that
Speaker 1: looks like a trolley to Fountain Square to get people there.
Speaker 1: It just seems to me like you got to get
Speaker 1: that Metro station at Government Square is a problem. I
Speaker 1: think we got to shut that down and move it.
Speaker 4: I think everything worth discussing for now. It's the kind
Speaker 4: of changing up the route to disperse that kind of
Speaker 4: cluster Government Square. So you know, that is a step
Speaker 4: in the right direction. Again, I want to make sure
Speaker 4: that in this conversation we're not dehumanizing people run the
Speaker 4: ride the bus because you know, personally, I feel very
Speaker 4: passionately that we have a working public transit and infrastructure
Speaker 4: because it's important right how most people are just getting
Speaker 4: to their jobs, and it's also how in some of
Speaker 4: our kids are getting to schools, people getting to you
Speaker 4: know whatever fun.
Speaker 1: Well, they don't deserve all this. That's the point. You're
Speaker 1: trying to protect them. We're trying to protect them by saying, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: we'll just run a We'll run a shuttle to Fountain
Speaker 1: Square for those people got another bus to Fountain Square.
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem that hard.
Speaker 4: Yeah, again, I'm open to all these conversations with Metro.
Speaker 4: You know, they they are the experts on their bus routes.
Speaker 4: But for now that we are working collaboratively with them
Speaker 4: on this kind of first step to this. First those
Speaker 4: bus routes try to spread out the crowds to your
Speaker 4: point of like what we have too many people kind
Speaker 4: of concentrate on one spot and just one of those
Speaker 4: people has to be up to no goods to cause
Speaker 4: safe issues for everyone. And I think that also comes
Speaker 4: with frankly, you know, for officers who are down there.
Speaker 4: You heard from the Chief yesterday talking through art Wet
Speaker 4: we got to be alert, right, We've got to have
Speaker 4: our eyes out open for what could be happening. And
Speaker 4: that's to where you know, we have community advocates who
Speaker 4: are down there and you know, learning simple kind of
Speaker 4: this is what a body language triggers of like oh
Speaker 4: that could be turning into a fight. Being much more
Speaker 4: aware and picking up on that faster. And that's what
Speaker 4: I heard from the chief right yesterday and her remarks
Speaker 4: with the press conference is Okay, we a CPD are
Speaker 4: going to step up here. We're going to be watching
Speaker 4: out for that a lot more, and you know, again
Speaker 4: using our complex resition be escalation skills to make sure
Speaker 4: those personal fights are not turning into gunfire. That's ultimately where.
Speaker 5: We got it.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I mean, we can teach
Speaker 1: it in the schools and all that stuff, but I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a percentage of the population that are
Speaker 1: freaking animals. What we saw yes to what we we're
Speaker 1: talking about. He is animalistic, predatory, sociopathic behavior. There's people
Speaker 1: out there that are worth saving, but there's some that aren't,
Speaker 1: and we've got to come to terms of that and
Speaker 1: segregate them for society because all this, we've got to
Speaker 1: change them and thick that might happen in another generation
Speaker 1: or two maybe, but probably not. But we've got to
Speaker 1: addressed to here and now. The people that are shooting
Speaker 1: on Fountain Square. I'man a guest that the guy who
Speaker 1: fired the shots at City Bird probably shouldn't had that
Speaker 1: gun in the first place, and I would I question
Speaker 1: the need for more laws if we don't take those
Speaker 1: people off the streets the minute they use a gun
Speaker 1: and commission of a crime.
Speaker 4: You and I have no disagreement on people who shouldn't
Speaker 4: have guns. It should and shouldn't have guns, right If
Speaker 4: someone's going to be using a firearm that lately for
Speaker 4: criminal activity, should not have a gun. And that's again
Speaker 4: why I go back to it would be really great
Speaker 4: if we actually had background check on every single gun
Speaker 4: sale beyond just the certified sellers, but you know Facebook,
Speaker 4: gun sales, things out of people's trunks all that, so
Speaker 4: we could actually be able to have, you know, a
Speaker 4: way to enforce, hey, you are a bad guy. You
Speaker 4: should not have a gun. Right And then in terms
Speaker 4: of they hear now, that is why we are pulling
Speaker 4: out all the stops, in terms of our local CPD
Speaker 4: working on patrol, bringing reinforcements from Ohio State Patrol right
Speaker 4: to really be out there in the community, watching out
Speaker 4: for these instances and hopefully intervening before they accalate.
Speaker 1: Let me and I've got just a second here, and
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Back on that in the Highway patrol,
Speaker 1: that's a really good point is from what we heard
Speaker 1: is is you know, the governor reached out some time
Speaker 1: ago and we're still waiting for Okay, I guess the
Speaker 1: Highway Patrol is going to come in and now we
Speaker 1: have all right, we had another shooting and so now
Speaker 1: we have SWAT officers. It looks like parts of Gaza
Speaker 1: now on Fountain Square and this. I don't know. It
Speaker 1: seems like, okay, now we're doing that and the optics
Speaker 1: that are tough, But why why don't we if we
Speaker 1: just brought troopers into enforced the highways, we could have
Speaker 1: regular cops, more of them on the street. Why are
Speaker 1: we fighting against the set? Why are we leaning into
Speaker 1: the state and having more officers more troopers come in
Speaker 1: so we.
Speaker 4: Do have the troopers coming in helping. I'm going to
Speaker 4: go back to the crime done.
Speaker 1: There's like two days a month or something stupid like that.
Speaker 1: That's what's that going to do?
Speaker 4: Helps of our capacity right when we have big busts.
Speaker 4: I don't know a better technical term than that of
Speaker 4: you know, these big investigations to take a lot of
Speaker 4: man so having support, but that does free up our
Speaker 4: CPD local officers to be out patrolling our neighborhoods. And frankly,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest when it comes to kind of
Speaker 4: patrolling in our neighborhoods, I still stand by. You know,
Speaker 4: sometimes Believe has amazing training when it comes to collaborative agreement,
Speaker 4: comes to the escalation. They have relationships with our residence too,
Speaker 4: and that is very very important because having that quest
Speaker 4: of law enforcement makes a difference when you're interacting in
Speaker 4: the neighborhoods. So I stand by all of that, But
Speaker 4: when it comes to these bigger operations, yeah, let's bring in,
Speaker 4: bring in support and having you know, swat out take
Speaker 4: control supporting that these like hot spots right now.
Speaker 1: Sure, but again it took too long. I mean, that
Speaker 1: was something was offered a couple of months ago after
Speaker 1: you know, after the brawl and went July, and here
Speaker 1: it is, we're almost in the November at this point,
Speaker 1: and now we're like, okay, now they're fre We're gonna
Speaker 1: get them a couple days. It just it just seems
Speaker 1: like we're I don't know, fighting against law enforcement. Then
Speaker 1: we just turn around, puts a lot of on the street.
Speaker 1: How any different is that than having National Guardsmen out there?
Speaker 1: They look the same.
Speaker 4: Well, National guardsmen are not trained in our collaborative agreement.
Speaker 4: They're not they don't know our people. And frankly, that
Speaker 4: the scenes I've seen coming out of Chicago with Ice.
Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm not saying I have the National
Speaker 1: Guarden saying it. That's what it looks like. It's the same.
Speaker 1: What's the difference between local squat offers and that as
Speaker 1: far in the court of public opinion. And yeah, I
Speaker 1: get the training element, but I think people see that
Speaker 1: you see paramilitary troopers that are either squat or now
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. You've got guys in tactical gears standing
Speaker 1: on that Fountain Square to intimidate the bad guys. It's
Speaker 1: the same look.
Speaker 4: I you know, for me, I will say, I don't
Speaker 4: think living in a police state and this is why
Speaker 4: I think I'm hearing from me, living in a police
Speaker 4: state is in our perfect version of safety. And I agree, right,
Speaker 4: but to your point, like there's a crisis right now
Speaker 4: and we're doing everything we can, and if you know,
Speaker 4: four cops standing on Fountain Square wasn't enough, and you
Speaker 4: know what's the next step. So it's really a balance here, right,
Speaker 4: I mean, I agree, I don't think having a police
Speaker 4: date is is where we want to be. But if
Speaker 4: we are, you know, have so many guns in the street,
Speaker 4: and we got to bring in help to de escalate
Speaker 4: and keep those guns, you know, out of the wrong hands.
Speaker 4: We're going to do it right now because again, like
Speaker 4: we're digging this all very seriously, and I want to
Speaker 4: follow up, go back to where you started the conversation
Speaker 4: in terms of what we heard from public facety public
Speaker 4: commenters yesterday, following up immediately, in fact, i'd already been
Speaker 4: my opposite, had already been in contact with one of
Speaker 4: the gentlemen and got you know, an email after immediately.
Speaker 4: And we're working quickly here, and I go back to
Speaker 4: problem solving and how do we address these issues at
Speaker 4: the spot right We heard.
Speaker 1: Some fo we needed to and I had to touch off,
Speaker 1: but I got to get going way or away over
Speaker 1: like she's conc member and I'll be law in public safety.
Speaker 1: I know we just addressed a lot there, but I
Speaker 1: appreciate your thoughtful consideration and conversation and the back and forth.
Speaker 1: It was really good. Hopefully people listen to this and
Speaker 1: and and the right people listen to this so we
Speaker 1: get some answered soon because this date, I'll agree with
Speaker 1: the mayor. It's intolerable for sure. Hey, all the best.
Speaker 1: Good luck on the campaign. I know you're doing that
Speaker 1: as well, seeking the reelection and council. Anna. Thanks for
Speaker 1: coming on the show. Be well, good luck, appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Thanks to take care.
Speaker 1: We got to get the news run the lake. We'll
Speaker 1: get your reaction to this, so more gun laws will
Speaker 1: solve this. Well, then let's talk about that coming up
Speaker 1: next on seven hundred W them Scott's Loan here, seven
Speaker 1: hundred WL I was gonna have time to get to
Speaker 1: play some of the Terry Thigi audio. It's Cincinnati's Grandma,
Speaker 1: Terry Thigi, and she can tell there's frustration with her too.
Speaker 1: And the press conference after press conference, Scott's Loan here,
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW last half Ari Ana Albeyond council member,
Speaker 1: all be law in public safety. She thought through the testimony,
Speaker 1: people saying, look, what am I going to tell my
Speaker 1: tenants people want to rent from me? I own property.
Speaker 1: I'm a business owner, and I need bodies to move downtown.
Speaker 1: I don't need bodies moving away from downtown. What do
Speaker 1: I tell tenants to say? Ask the question am I
Speaker 1: going to be safe? Will I be safe? I don't
Speaker 1: have an answer for that, or people going listen, I tried.
Speaker 1: I mean, I bought into Cincinnati and the urban thing,
Speaker 1: and I just I can't do it anymore. It's just
Speaker 1: the dangers all over the place. And are people say, well,
Speaker 1: statistically it's fine, Well, you don't live in statistics, do you?
Speaker 1: And That's why another reason I hate numbers, I hate
Speaker 1: the statistics it is because of that. It's like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't live in statistics, man, I know what I see.
Speaker 1: Same thing when you watch a football game, Mberrow and
Speaker 1: Joe Flack will make a completion that had a one
Speaker 1: point two percent chance of being successful. Okay, then why
Speaker 1: would you throw that ball? So the numbers are always
Speaker 1: what they are, right, And it's perception. And I'm sorry
Speaker 1: when I see people shooting across Fountain Square at each other.
Speaker 1: When I see some guy recognizing someoney at a beef
Speaker 1: with and he settles beef by pulling out a gun
Speaker 1: and shooting rounds through cityberg Chicken on Fountain Square and
Speaker 1: then runs away like it's just me and him. It's
Speaker 1: our world. You know, the time for programs and the
Speaker 1: time for feel goods. And I'm sorry that's over. You
Speaker 1: got at some point, you got split wigs. That's what
Speaker 1: this is. And Fiji said yesterday and it's about time
Speaker 1: that what they're gonna do is restore broken windows policing,
Speaker 1: which basically means we're going after the little stuff. We
Speaker 1: see you jaywalking, we see you smoking a joint, we
Speaker 1: see you doing something that technically is we're gonna make
Speaker 1: contact with you. Screw Iris rallying her feels the hell
Speaker 1: with her, this is what we're gonna do. And then
Speaker 1: how about this other element instead of and she proposed
Speaker 1: that we need more gun laws. We do not need
Speaker 1: more gun laws. We don't need more laws restricting the Again,
Speaker 1: most Americans ninety nine percent plus are completely law abiding
Speaker 1: and use their guns responsibly. And I get it. We've
Speaker 1: got a lot of guns out there because every time
Speaker 1: we propose more gun laws, people buy more guns. And
Speaker 1: the same thing happens in Cincinnati. Okay, well, why do
Speaker 1: we have so many guns on the street. We have
Speaker 1: so many guns on the street because when people go
Speaker 1: downtown who have to liver work there, they're scared because
Speaker 1: of stuff like this. Because you've ignored the problem for
Speaker 1: so long, May and largely progressives and Democrats. You've forgotten
Speaker 1: and you know all the programs and the money, we're
Speaker 1: fun and we're doing well. We can't. We can't have
Speaker 1: ostracized kids. And they're young kids and they deserve a chance.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, when you pick up a gun, your chances
Speaker 1: are over. Enough of this nonsense, and because of all
Speaker 1: this death and destroy and the threat of somebody like
Speaker 1: Ruby's pulling out of downtown. Can you imagine and people
Speaker 1: moving out of downtown And now all of a sudden's like, well,
Speaker 1: you know all these feel good things that we thought
Speaker 1: were good in theory in reality like that, it doesn't work.
Speaker 1: So now we got to split wigs. Good. We should
Speaker 1: be doing that. We should be doing that. But the
Speaker 1: idea that we have more gun laws, well, okay, great,
Speaker 1: we have gun laws, and people are coming downtown because
Speaker 1: they're scared they have guns, and their signs up saying
Speaker 1: don't bring your gun anywhere, So I leave at my car,
Speaker 1: and then people are breaking into cars because they know
Speaker 1: that's where the guns are. It's a self fulfilling prophecy.
Speaker 1: How do you end that thing? You start making examples
Speaker 1: of the people are committing gun crimes. When somebody cuts
Speaker 1: an ankle monitor off, You don't wait a month, two weeks,
Speaker 1: a year later and go, well we'll get you, and
Speaker 1: you get you. Well maybe they'll turn themselves in. You
Speaker 1: go and you get a task force and you bring
Speaker 1: them to justice. Like I said, how many times is it?
Speaker 1: This twenty four year old it's not his first time
Speaker 1: of the road. You guarantee it. You just don't wake
Speaker 1: up one day and pull out a gun and shoot
Speaker 1: at someone. They's got to have prior. There's no almost
Speaker 1: willing to bet the house that that guy is restricted
Speaker 1: from having a gun. He's under disability. I mean he
Speaker 1: had a prior felony at twenty four. He shouldn't have
Speaker 1: that gun. Well, we got to pass laws to make
Speaker 1: sure people like that. No, what we have to do
Speaker 1: is take people like that and go you go to
Speaker 1: prison for thirty years for that, like we used to.
Speaker 1: But then, oh, but you know society people are there's
Speaker 1: backlash and this is what happens when you don't do that.
Speaker 1: It's exactly what happens when you don't do that. And
Speaker 1: now you know they're throwing out how many more adjectives
Speaker 1: is aft to have? Pure hole going to use? Today's
Speaker 1: at the adjective it's like Sesame Street with Grover not
Speaker 1: The adjective of the day is intolerable. Yeah, okay, great,
Speaker 1: and tomorrow will be something else, a bond ball or
Speaker 1: you're gonna run out eventually. It's significant changes are coup
Speaker 1: after violence downtown? What are they doing? They're having swat
Speaker 1: in the Civil Disturbance Response Team, and okay, what we
Speaker 1: don't want is the National Guard here, and we don't
Speaker 1: want the State of Ohio here because it makes us
Speaker 1: look bad. What's the optics of having Thursday night football
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati downtown. They show that shot of Fountain Square
Speaker 1: and what you see are I'm sorry, paramilitary troops that
Speaker 1: are SWAT officers. There's a bit of a difference there.
Speaker 1: I get that, but I'm sorry someone the average person
Speaker 1: looks at someone an individual who's got tactical gear on,
Speaker 1: got a vest, you're all strapped down, you got your
Speaker 1: tactical helmet on, you got your visors, you're carrying a
Speaker 1: long gun. You're standing on Fountain Square. People see that
Speaker 1: and go paramilitary. They don't go, oh, that's just a
Speaker 1: SWAT officer versus a National guardsman versus. No, they're going
Speaker 1: to go Cincinnatie is dangerous AF That's what people think.
Speaker 1: But I'll talk about the fields and well, we'll use
Speaker 1: our swat officers. They're different, and it all looks the
Speaker 1: same to me. Baby. And you guys did this. You
Speaker 1: did this, AFTAB, the policies that you stand behind did this.
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Speaker 1: Harry on the show. Good morning, good morning. Uh you
Speaker 1: heard the words of council Member Anna. I'll be on
Speaker 1: this the shooting downtown. Ruby's may pull out at some
Speaker 1: point if this just kind of behavior continues. We have
Speaker 1: SWAT officers to me, look like National Guardsmen patrolling the
Speaker 1: center of our city. And yet I'm hearing about how
Speaker 1: we need more gun laws and we need more programs.
Speaker 1: Enough of the nonsense. You got to start splitting wigs,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Oh, most definitely. Yeah, I've listened to that conversation. I
Speaker 6: wanted to drive my car off a bridge. The judges
Speaker 6: don't profit. If the judges don't take care of getting
Speaker 6: people off the street when presented with the facts, then
Speaker 6: the number of guns are just going to continue to.
Speaker 1: Be where they are. There's a question to somebody, you.
Speaker 5: Put them in jail.
Speaker 6: That's a gun off the street.
Speaker 5: But I think, but I've had.
Speaker 1: A gun off the street. That's a person who's going
Speaker 1: to use the gun. And Commission of a crime off
Speaker 1: the street. And furthermore, if you have someone who has
Speaker 1: an ankle monitor, they caught off and we'll I'll just
Speaker 1: catch you later. How many more people are going to
Speaker 1: needlessly become victims of crime, and often violent crime and
Speaker 1: often homicide if we continue that behavior. We don't need laws.
Speaker 1: We need mortal laws. We needed to damn enforce the
Speaker 1: laws that we already have.
Speaker 6: Oh, there's no question. And I wonder if that particular
Speaker 6: council person has ever stood at Government Square at four
Speaker 6: o'clock in the afternoon and watched what goes on there.
Speaker 6: Per thing about people are taking the buses and getting
Speaker 6: them off the Government Square primarily to go to work.
Speaker 6: It's a bunch of nonsense. Okay, I worked downtown. That's
Speaker 6: not what goes on on Government Square. Yes, there are
Speaker 6: people that go there to use the buses to go
Speaker 6: to work, correct, But there's a whole bunch of other
Speaker 6: people that are just there.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, there are, And you know it does it's
Speaker 1: not all the people. And you know, we gotta be
Speaker 1: careful how you just shut it down because you have
Speaker 1: school kids, you know, using metro, you have people who
Speaker 1: are commuting using metro, and then of course you have
Speaker 1: people up to no good using Metro. And I just
Speaker 1: don't understand why do we have to have that bus
Speaker 1: station at Government Square, Because they the people that are
Speaker 1: causing trouble come out and then they shoot at each other.
Speaker 1: They cause problems. There's violence all the time around that
Speaker 1: Metro stop. It happens all the Why not move the
Speaker 1: damn thing to the Fort Washington Way Garage. It's underground
Speaker 1: first of all, so you stay dry, but you also
Speaker 1: have you can also monitor the entrance and exits, the
Speaker 1: ingress and egress points. And then if somebody does something
Speaker 1: stupid in there, you spot somebody, you could put cameras
Speaker 1: up there to have technology that spots the gun inside
Speaker 1: your clothing. You can have offices there intercepting people. Then
Speaker 1: if you have to lock it down, you've got to
Speaker 1: point in point B to do that, and that's going
Speaker 1: to deter that crime. And if people have to commute
Speaker 1: to Fountain Square, why not run some shuttles that look
Speaker 1: like street cars and run bus lines to Fountain Square
Speaker 1: to get the commuters there. It seems to me that's
Speaker 1: where we need to move it as away from from
Speaker 1: Fountain Square and move it to an area that could
Speaker 1: be better monitored.
Speaker 6: Seloy, You're using logic, and logic doesn't enter into the
Speaker 6: conversation when you're dealing with politicians. All you did is
Speaker 6: word salad with ideas, but no gumption to move on
Speaker 6: these ideas.
Speaker 1: That's the problem. It's also the fear of backlash from
Speaker 1: other progressives that say you're just causing more problems and
Speaker 1: you're ostracizing people and you're labeling them. It's more of
Speaker 1: the iris rally stuff. Harry, thanks the call to Brian
Speaker 1: in Mount Auburn on the Scott Sloan share a show
Speaker 1: seven under WW Brian High.
Speaker 5: Hey Scott, how you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm doing well. We got well.
Speaker 2: We lived down Pound for twelve years and back in
Speaker 2: March we moved to Mount Auburn and a big part
Speaker 2: of that was what was happening downtown. I mean, we
Speaker 2: still walk to downtown, we still go support the places
Speaker 2: we always have, but at night, we just wanted to
Speaker 2: feel safe when walked in the dog or something like that.
Speaker 3: And listening to the.
Speaker 2: Council memory had on when you brought up the fact
Speaker 2: that we're not enforcing the judges aren't enforcing.
Speaker 5: The laws that are play that's a huge part of it.
Speaker 2: We have family and that are CPD.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, yeah, Brian, Brian, apologize, I'm losing your sales
Speaker 1: fading out there, but I get the crutch what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I appreciate listening to show and check it in this morning,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I hear about you know, hey, we need
Speaker 1: to try to reform people and get them at a
Speaker 1: younger Okay, great, but that's that's way down the line.
Speaker 1: You're talking about what five, six, seven, eight year olds.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about twenty four year olds going shooting rounds
Speaker 1: to the window at City Bird. I mean, it's a
Speaker 1: little late for the programs in the fields. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: put that in stel. I'm one hundred percent with you.
Speaker 1: But when people like that, and I almost willing to
Speaker 1: bet that that twenty four year old gut in the
Speaker 1: white T shirt, that that guy has had priors, that
Speaker 1: they know who that is, that he's going to come
Speaker 1: back and he's going to have a jacket. I don't
Speaker 1: know how thick it is, but there's gonna be something
Speaker 1: in that jacket. It's going to show you that he
Speaker 1: shouldn't have a gun in the first place. So I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: we need more laws and tougher gun laws. What is
Speaker 1: that going to do for people who simply don't care
Speaker 1: that they're going to shoot someone they had a beef
Speaker 1: with in the in broad daylight. I mean, we had
Speaker 1: a gunfight across Fountain Square to a guy in a
Speaker 1: car and guy in Founain Square just shooting at the
Speaker 1: guy in the car during rush hour. But how many
Speaker 1: laws did you break right there? Do you think they cared?
Speaker 1: They don't. And that's what we just need more tougher laws.
Speaker 1: And we got to do something about all these guys. Now,
Speaker 1: we got to do something about the a holes that
Speaker 1: are ruined for ninety nine point nine percent of the
Speaker 1: rest of the population. Target them quick, screw their feelings
Speaker 1: and lock them up. I don't care how old they are,
Speaker 1: Get them the hell off the street. Thanks for the call.
Speaker 1: We'll switch it up. We'll get to a news update
Speaker 1: here in just seconds and then, uh, health care is
Speaker 1: in crisis right now. One of my favorite topics to
Speaker 1: talk about, because we're seeing this government shutdown on day fifteen,
Speaker 1: and there's a solution for this, and because not shutting down,
Speaker 1: the government's actually legislators doing their jobs, and that is
Speaker 1: fixing healthcare in Democrats and Republicans both the blind because
Speaker 1: Democrats right now are shutting this down because when we
Speaker 1: want more subsidy, and subsidy just means something costs too much.
Speaker 1: And Republicans don't have a plan at all to fix
Speaker 1: health care. How about you do this? How about instead
Speaker 1: of giving money away and ignoring it, why do you
Speaker 1: get together and figure out why our healthcare costs so
Speaker 1: much and how we get so little out of it?
Speaker 1: Maybe some answers just ahead with an actual physician who
Speaker 1: sees this first hand. He's next in the show seven
Speaker 1: hundred WWT Cincinnata.
Speaker 3: We want to.
Speaker 1: Scott flown back on seven hundred WLW. As the government
Speaker 1: shut down continues over healthcare subsidies, it illustrates just how
Speaker 1: broken our system is, and not yet uniformly broken, not
Speaker 1: beyond repair. I mean, let's face, it's still an American
Speaker 1: any thing's perspective. You know, people still get excellent care,
Speaker 1: People still come here from other countries to get medical care.
Speaker 1: Medical innovation thrives in America. Way times are shorter than
Speaker 1: in single pair systems. But I'm an less face at
Speaker 1: the cost the access the people who are left in
Speaker 1: and excluded from it. That's really the problem with striving
Speaker 1: things in America, and there's consequences for our broken healthcare
Speaker 1: system what it means for ordinary families on that is
Speaker 1: doctor Peter Cowie. He's a cardiologist and public health expert
Speaker 1: and joins the show now to discuss on seven hundred
Speaker 1: WLW Doctor Kylie. Welcome, How are you, Scott?
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me and I appreciate the invitation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think this is extremely lebant now that
Speaker 1: we fight over healthcare subsidies and you know, you know,
Speaker 1: there are a number of Americans that are dependent upon
Speaker 1: that and working people who are working multiple jobs in
Speaker 1: order to try and survive today, and they need healthcare.
Speaker 1: It's not provided by their employer, and so ACA fills
Speaker 1: that void. They get high scores for that. But you know,
Speaker 1: to act like somehow it makes it a affordable it doesn't.
Speaker 1: Because the tremendous amount of subsidy that's at stake here.
Speaker 1: You continue to subsidize things, it distorts what the costs
Speaker 1: really are. And it really it just glosses over a
Speaker 1: broken system in that regard, doesn't it absolutely?
Speaker 5: You know, we have two populations that are at risk here.
Speaker 5: One is obviously the uninsured, but there's a gigantic proportion
Speaker 5: of our population who are underinsured, so they have to
Speaker 5: pay large deductibles, they have to pay a lot of
Speaker 5: out of pocket expenses when they seek medical care. Those
Speaker 5: are the people who are really at risk here, and
Speaker 5: of course, with the reduction in the subsidies, their premiums
Speaker 5: look like they're going to go through the roof.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we have lawmakers breaking away. I mean, Taylor
Speaker 1: Green from Georgia, you should saying, lo, listen. You know
Speaker 1: I've got family members that rely on subsidies on the
Speaker 1: Affordable Care Act in order to provide they're working a
Speaker 1: few jobs. I have family members that are like that
Speaker 1: right now. You know this is a US against them
Speaker 1: and we must you know, it's because it's Obamacare. It
Speaker 1: must be destroyed. It's propping up or broken in defunct system,
Speaker 1: and something needs to be done because the future is
Speaker 1: not looking bright. And you're right about that, in failure
Speaker 1: to treat what this really means for ordinary families as
Speaker 1: things continue the way they are. The broad picture on this, though,
Speaker 1: doctor Cowie is Here's what I don't understand, right, is
Speaker 1: that we have a not a good system was is
Speaker 1: what Medicare and Medicaid and the Affordable character and Obamacare
Speaker 1: and things are being propped up and subsidized, and it's
Speaker 1: ugly and it doesn't work. The other side of it,
Speaker 1: it's I don't see many ideas come out of the
Speaker 1: Republicans though, when it comes to a better solution for this,
Speaker 1: other than well, you know, it's socialized medicine, and we
Speaker 1: can't have that. What's the solution.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you're entirely correct, we can't. We have a
Speaker 5: patchwork system right now. We have people trying to get
Speaker 5: help insurance in several different directions, and as we've already said,
Speaker 5: at very high costs. It really is going to come down, unfortunately,
Speaker 5: to a debate about whether we should as a country,
Speaker 5: as a civilization here, but just say everybody has to
Speaker 5: have affordable health care, and in whatever form that's going
Speaker 5: to take. You've heard the term Medicare for all. That
Speaker 5: may be a little bit large in terms of how
Speaker 5: much that would cost and whether it could be implemented.
Speaker 5: But the truth of the matter is that until we
Speaker 5: get to the point that we all agree that.
Speaker 7: This is not this is not.
Speaker 5: A luxury, this is a necessity that we need to
Speaker 5: provide affordable health care for all of our citizens. Until
Speaker 5: we grasp that concept, I'm afraid that the system is
Speaker 5: not going to get fixed in the alley.
Speaker 1: The overwriting story here regards of where you stand politically
Speaker 1: on this effect is it doesn't. I think everyone agrees
Speaker 1: in Republican Democrats know that it doesn't work the way
Speaker 1: it is, and it's something has to give because we
Speaker 1: spend what twice as much per person on healthcare as
Speaker 1: other countries who are wealthy and something like thirteen thous
Speaker 1: thirteen grand per person anually spend on healthcare, and a
Speaker 1: lot of those people don't use healthcare. We're talking about
Speaker 1: younger people who don't use healthcare as much as older
Speaker 1: people do, and we're not getting any better outcomes. Number
Speaker 1: one cause of personal bankruptcy medical bills. That's no future
Speaker 1: for a that's still a recipe for future success.
Speaker 5: I should say no, We're spending four and a half
Speaker 5: trillion dollars a year on healthcare in the United States,
Speaker 5: projected in twenty thirty five to be closer to nine
Speaker 5: trillion dollars on healthcare, and yet, as you just said,
Speaker 5: and I completely agree, we sit at the bottom in
Speaker 5: ranks of civilized countries in terms of almost any healthcare
Speaker 5: outcome measure you want to use, infant mortality, life expectancy.
Speaker 5: It is not a system that's working, but we've the resource.
Speaker 5: You're preamble by the way, I really appreciate it because
Speaker 5: you're right, you.
Speaker 3: Know you can.
Speaker 5: The glass isn't completely empty half empty. There's a lot
Speaker 5: of really good things about our healthcare system. The problem
Speaker 5: is access. The problem is allowing people to get into
Speaker 5: the system so that they can take advantage of this
Speaker 5: wonderful technology and innovation that we have here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we saw the murder of the CEO of United Healthcare,
Speaker 1: and the reaction that I saw from a number of
Speaker 1: people is sickening that we're celebrating the death of a
Speaker 1: CEO of a company like he is the one driving
Speaker 1: this problem people. And I get it, you know, it's
Speaker 1: a metaphor for the system that's broken. But I don't
Speaker 1: understand celebrating someone's assassination basically is what happened here? What
Speaker 1: does that tell you about where're and how much of
Speaker 1: that has to do? And I get it, you know,
Speaker 1: insurance companies and insurers they stand the most to gain
Speaker 1: by well what the Democrats want. A lot of this
Speaker 1: money is going to go to Uh. If you subsidize anything,
Speaker 1: what happens is you just it just costs you more.
Speaker 1: College is a great example. You know, we subsidize college.
Speaker 1: Everyone has to go to college free college money grants
Speaker 1: tuition on the thing, and college is raised the Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll just going to charge more because more people have
Speaker 1: It's more money and it's artificial. You have to pay it.
Speaker 1: The same thing is true here, isn't it.
Speaker 5: Yeah? I agree entirely. What you saw with the reaction
Speaker 5: to that unfortunate event is how angry people are. I mean,
Speaker 5: I think what you saw was a reflection of their
Speaker 5: frustration and their anger with dealing with healthcare insurance companies
Speaker 5: that they really don't care about you. I mean, they've
Speaker 5: advertise on television how much they care, and the truth
Speaker 5: of the matter is they don't. I don't know if
Speaker 5: you saw recently, Scott, that a number of companies, including
Speaker 5: Medicare as well, are now going to go to pre
Speaker 5: certification done by artificial intelligence. Now think about that. Think
Speaker 5: about that your doctor orders a test and some computer
Speaker 5: is going to make a decision as to whether or
Speaker 5: not you can get that test done or not. I mean,
Speaker 5: that's the level of the absurdity that's going on with
Speaker 5: pre certification, for example, or denials of care. And in
Speaker 5: the books failure to treat their numerous examples of the
Speaker 5: stories about people who suffered really severe harm because of
Speaker 5: what happens with their medical insurance system as it currently exists.
Speaker 1: Oh, you don't have to look far to find those
Speaker 1: examples that you know, there's the things that you think
Speaker 1: are covered and they try to find a way not
Speaker 1: to cover it, or you know, it's almost a it's
Speaker 1: hard enough when your child, for example, as you know
Speaker 1: doctor Cowie is ill and you're trying to get them
Speaker 1: treatment for something like pediatric cancer, heart or some sort
Speaker 1: of serious illness like that, and then you're waging a
Speaker 1: war with the insurance company on top of that. It
Speaker 1: seems punitive.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And don't believe that the doctors aren't advocating. I mean,
Speaker 5: my office spends almost a full fte just dealing with
Speaker 5: insurance companies to get certification for procedures, and they put
Speaker 5: you on hold for a couple of hours and you
Speaker 5: have to wait there until they've decided to come on
Speaker 5: the phone, and then when they deny something, you have
Speaker 5: to go into a complicated system of trying to appeal
Speaker 5: to appeal the decision, and you have to go up
Speaker 5: in the ladder to what they call a peer review
Speaker 5: and talk to somebody who's who may not even be
Speaker 5: in your specialty to make a decision about coverage. So
Speaker 5: the system is rotten. Okay, it's a rotten system, and
Speaker 5: unfortunately we're we've adapted to where we tried to live
Speaker 5: with it. But it has to it has to change.
Speaker 1: Well we've heard that for a long time, though, what
Speaker 1: is going to be the change agent here? Is it
Speaker 1: going to be one extreme case? One extreme example? Kind
Speaker 1: of like you know, when we have a I don't
Speaker 1: know terror attack, everything changed after nine to eleven? Do
Speaker 1: we need like a medical nine to eleven to occur?
Speaker 1: And what would that look like?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, I wonder I wondered this myself.
Speaker 5: You know, I used to think that when the Sandy
Speaker 5: Hook shootings occurred and all those children were massacred, that
Speaker 5: that was going to stimulate change in the gun laws.
Speaker 5: And it didn't.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 5: It almost rised the level of absurdity of what you
Speaker 5: need to do to convince legislators. And that's where this
Speaker 5: has to come from.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 5: We need we need major changes in our regulation of
Speaker 5: insurance companies and laws. What's a going to take to
Speaker 5: get these people off the dime and make them understand
Speaker 5: that we need to move forward and make the system better.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I thought of the Sandy hook, but
Speaker 1: I don't know if I entirely agree that, because there
Speaker 1: you have Okay, you have a second Amendment. We have
Speaker 1: second membright to arm ourselves and that is a I
Speaker 1: don't think European countries understand the Second Amment, how powerful
Speaker 1: it is and what you can do. And we put
Speaker 1: a lot of laws in place to again keep guns
Speaker 1: on the hands of criminals, but also impacts most people
Speaker 1: don't guns, are law abiding citizens. And there's also a
Speaker 1: mental health component. Use a physician know that, And you
Speaker 1: know what about people who commit domestic violence acts? And
Speaker 1: well we have HIPPA but we can't disclose. And when
Speaker 1: you fill out your Federal Firearms form, you know you
Speaker 1: may have mental health issues, but you're not going to
Speaker 1: admit it, or maybe you don't know what you think
Speaker 1: the rest of the world's crazier and you're normal and
Speaker 1: you go, yeah, I'm perfectly fine, and then they go
Speaker 1: on a mass shooting. But there's none of that in
Speaker 1: play here. You don't have that. But when you have
Speaker 1: both sides agreeing right that the healthcare system is broken
Speaker 1: needs to be fixed, there's no hey, there's an amendment
Speaker 1: that says you're not entitled to healthcare, or there's no opposition.
Speaker 1: Is we all agree in the same thing, and yet
Speaker 1: we can't do anything to me. That's the most frustrating
Speaker 1: part about this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I completely agree that they're not analogy necessarily analogous. However,
Speaker 5: think about this that the Republicans are denying the fact
Speaker 5: right now, they're denying the fact that cutting Medicaid and
Speaker 5: Medicare in the big beautiful Bill. They're denying the fact
Speaker 5: that that is going to cause a disaster in American
Speaker 5: medicine when everybody knows that it's going to Hospitals are
Speaker 5: already teeter tottering, right. I mean, the majority of hospitals
Speaker 5: in this country are operating in the red. Seventeen percent
Speaker 5: of hospitals last year either bankrupted or came close to bankruptcy.
Speaker 5: And these are royal hospitals, creating these healthcare deserts. I mean,
Speaker 5: if the Medicaid thing goes in to effect and the
Speaker 5: hospitals can no longer rely on that revenue, it could
Speaker 5: actually be a complete catastrophe. The Republicans need to know that,
Speaker 5: but they're they're in denial.
Speaker 1: Would that be the medical nine eleven we're talking about.
Speaker 5: I think absolutely, Scott, that could be the disaster that
Speaker 5: finally wakes people up. But the problem is that once
Speaker 5: it happens, yeah, getting reversing it that may take years,
Speaker 5: and people are going to die because of it.
Speaker 1: I have a family in rural Ohio. You listening you
Speaker 1: might have that as well, or like at least you
Speaker 1: know someone because you know, we're in a big city.
Speaker 1: We're in Cincinnati, Ohio. We have Columbus, we have Cleveland.
Speaker 1: We have mid sized cities like Dayton and Toledo and
Speaker 1: elsewhere in our listening area. But the bulk of all
Speaker 1: eighty eight counties are pretty rural in Ohio. And I've
Speaker 1: seen firsthand clinics and hospitals closed because they just don't
Speaker 1: have the people coming in and can't afford the staffing
Speaker 1: and everything, all the compliance and everything else in order
Speaker 1: to operate a modern hospital. There's just it's not profitable.
Speaker 1: And I know a lot of people cringe at the
Speaker 1: state taking over health care, but I don't know can
Speaker 1: this be? And we tell you, yeah, I look, well
Speaker 1: we know healthcare. We've seen hospitals clothed in rural areas.
Speaker 1: It's happening as we speak right now. It doesn't get
Speaker 1: to play simply because it's flyover country. People lose all
Speaker 1: their healthcare, they lose all hope. At that point, we're
Speaker 1: going to have people dying of things that were easily
Speaker 1: fixable just weeks and months and years ago as opposed
Speaker 1: to to right now. And at some point that it's
Speaker 1: going to come to a tipping point because you're right,
Speaker 1: these hospitals can't run profitable. But you look, listen to
Speaker 1: this can goa a minute. If every man wanted a child,
Speaker 1: we're spending like thirteen thousand dollars plus on average for
Speaker 1: our healthcare system. It's not that we're not spending money.
Speaker 1: Where's the money going?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Well what's going into the pockets of
Speaker 5: people like in private equity for example, they're taken over
Speaker 5: a lot of these hospital systems and manage to bankrupt
Speaker 5: them and close them for profit. But if you recall
Speaker 5: in the book It's a Failure to Treat, there's a
Speaker 5: story about a baby and a parents who were trying
Speaker 5: to get their baby to a hospital in a rural
Speaker 5: early This is an affluent couple. This isn't just about
Speaker 5: this isn't just about indigen people. This is everybody trying
Speaker 5: to get the baby to a hospital. And when they
Speaker 5: pull up to the emergency room, the hospital had closed
Speaker 5: and they ended up having another drive another twenty five
Speaker 5: miles to get to a hospital. By the time they
Speaker 5: got there, the baby was beyond fix shame and died.
Speaker 5: And these are true stories. This is a true story
Speaker 5: of what can happen in our healthcare system. And you're right.
Speaker 5: If that starts happening on a big, high level, big scale,
Speaker 5: it could be it could be the Army Eddon that
Speaker 5: you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I get the private equity element too, But
Speaker 1: they come in and go, hey, listen, you know you're
Speaker 1: not profitable. We'll buy a stake, we'll buy you out,
Speaker 1: we'll take you out. And of course they're about squeezing
Speaker 1: the last remaining dollars out there. And that is the
Speaker 1: nature of how our enterprises, the conditions in which we
Speaker 1: engage in America today, of course, is capitalism, and that's
Speaker 1: the ugly side of it, to be sure. But you know,
Speaker 1: it used to be a government be kind of like
Speaker 1: a referee in these things, and that's long since gone
Speaker 1: away with modern politics the way it is. He is,
Speaker 1: Peter Cowie's a cardiologist, public health expert. Failure to Treat
Speaker 1: as the book and where things are headed here with
Speaker 1: our broken healthcare system that both Republicans and Democrats agree on,
Speaker 1: it's broken and has to change. There's got to be
Speaker 1: a change ageing company. He believes it's going to be
Speaker 1: more healthcare deserts, meaning rural hospital shutting down and people dying, uh,
Speaker 1: largely from trauma. I mean, you're telling me that people
Speaker 1: can literally bleed out because there's no physician or emergency
Speaker 1: room to treat them in a rural area. And we're
Speaker 1: talking about people who are farmers a lot of agricultural areas.
Speaker 1: And as we take the information super Highway and put
Speaker 1: it more rural areas because of the technology, what we'll
Speaker 1: see people who have met in a motor vehicle accident
Speaker 1: or you know, cut themselves of the saw that wind
Speaker 1: up dying is what you're saying, when just a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago they could go to the clinic and get
Speaker 1: sutured up. That's kind of it's and it's like an
Speaker 1: almost third world It sounds like, uh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you know, there are many areas you write
Speaker 5: about absolutely right about trauma. Think about obstetrical obstetrical care.
Speaker 5: How many hospitals not they might not necessarily close, but
Speaker 5: they've closed their obstetrical programs. So women have no place
Speaker 5: to deliver their baby. And there's many reasons for that.
Speaker 5: For the reasons we just discussed. There are financial issues,
Speaker 5: but there's also liability. Now doctors are not going into obstetrics.
Speaker 5: We have a severe shortage of obstetrical physicians in the
Speaker 5: United States, especially in the West and the Midwest. And
Speaker 5: so you're a woman, you're going to deliver your baby,
Speaker 5: you have to drive fifty miles to find someplace where
Speaker 5: they'll deliver your baby for you.
Speaker 1: Think about that, How a lie you can hang on
Speaker 1: after your water breaks.
Speaker 5: Right, I mean, it's insane, but that's exactly what's happening.
Speaker 5: And the thing that's really maddening about this is that
Speaker 5: the public does occasionally take notice of this stuff, but
Speaker 5: they hadn't risen up to the extent that I thought
Speaker 5: that they might. And the book is really kind of
Speaker 5: a clarion call for people, the public as well as
Speaker 5: practitioners to speak up, to talk to their legislators, to
Speaker 5: make sure that they understand that this is an issue
Speaker 5: that they really have to deal with.
Speaker 1: He's doctor Peter Cowie's cardiologists public health expert. The book
Speaker 1: is a failure to treat and what things look like
Speaker 1: maybe in a not so future dystopian future for that matter.
Speaker 1: It sounds dystopiing to me and like the stuff of movies,
Speaker 1: but this is reality. If things continue to go the
Speaker 1: way they are, the question is who wakes up and says,
Speaker 1: all right, we got to blow this thing up. You know,
Speaker 1: government subsidized healthcare costs way more money, and they tell
Speaker 1: me subsidize something. It becomes grossly more inefficient and really
Speaker 1: doesn't help those who would serve to help, because, let's
Speaker 1: face it, the insurance companies, the middle men, are the
Speaker 1: ones taking the money from the government.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 1: As the holdout continues on the other side, if we
Speaker 1: just go, well, you know what, we can't have socialized medicine, Well,
Speaker 1: what's your alternative? Well nothing. Maybe the simple solution is
Speaker 1: as simply, and I've said this for a long time,
Speaker 1: the easiest thing to be doctor Cowie, would be to
Speaker 1: take away the burden for providers like yourself. Imagine if
Speaker 1: you don't have to employ an entire team behind the
Speaker 1: scenes for medical billing, coding, Medicare, Medicaid and all that nonsense,
Speaker 1: and just go Listen, you get sick, here's how much
Speaker 1: it cost us, pay it or get for castropic situations,
Speaker 1: just give catastrophic insurance and pay that much like you
Speaker 1: do your homeowners, your auto insurance, your life insurance. Go
Speaker 1: to a system like that and get your employer the
Speaker 1: hell of a business providing healthcare. I think would solve
Speaker 1: the problem.
Speaker 5: I think what you're suggesting has tremendous merit, and there
Speaker 5: are many people who believe that you're correct that we've
Speaker 5: created an infrastructure of health insurance companies administrators. We have
Speaker 5: more administrators in our hospital than we have nurses. Yeah,
Speaker 5: to get rid of this gigantic infrastructure that we probably
Speaker 5: don't need and return to some kind of a more
Speaker 5: simplistic approach to payment. And I completely agree with your
Speaker 5: catastrophic insurance for those situations where things get a little
Speaker 5: out of control and you're very ill. But yeah, it's
Speaker 5: going to take people to wake up and have a
Speaker 5: little common sense about this, and hopefully the book and
Speaker 5: your radio program will get people motivated in the right.
Speaker 1: All we have to do is eliminate the administrative and
Speaker 1: bureaucratic class. That's a problem. It's too big in in
Speaker 1: medica a medical, it's too big in government, it's too
Speaker 1: big in schools. You name where the problem is. It's
Speaker 1: because we've got a bloated administrative and bureaucratic class. That's
Speaker 1: the problem. All the best, Doc, good luck with the book.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate it very much, Scott, all right.
Speaker 1: Thanks again.
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Speaker 1: Here's our career shipa. Julie Bouki's all right with the
Speaker 1: economy and just the job market titane. You can really
Speaker 1: feel it, especially among graduates. And then you throw Ai
Speaker 1: into the mix, and what does that mean for future jobs,
Speaker 1: graduates and like and enjoining the show this morning is
Speaker 1: that Julie Bouki our career, Shirpa, welcome, how are you,
Speaker 1: good morning, how are you sar well? Thank you. So
Speaker 1: typically it was hey, it used to be just go
Speaker 1: get a degree. It's fine, go have fun, get good,
Speaker 1: good grades, and we'll this whole thing out. Or you know,
Speaker 1: back when I was a student, it was more like, okay,
Speaker 1: well you know, and you knew people that change majors
Speaker 1: like eleven times are probably still in school. But back
Speaker 1: then it wasn't as not affordable as today today. You've
Speaker 1: got to a plan going in. You just can't figure
Speaker 1: it out as you go along, as generations past have done,
Speaker 1: even more so with AI.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and the plan can't be send junior off someplace
Speaker 8: at eighteen for four years and then when he or
Speaker 8: she pops out at twenty two, they've got a great
Speaker 8: job and a great career path waiting for them. And
Speaker 8: those those days are gone. And the challenge is with
Speaker 8: parents getting our kids understand that. I love this article
Speaker 8: on the Wall through Journal talking about it's hard to
Speaker 8: give career advice to your kids these days. Of course,
Speaker 8: I had to laugh at that and say like they
Speaker 8: were ever listening. You know, we want them to start
Speaker 8: thinking ahead, start being prepared. And it's really hard when
Speaker 8: you're a teenager in late teens, early twenties to have
Speaker 8: that ability to see ahead and to see that the
Speaker 8: world has changed and you're going to have to join
Speaker 8: the workforce and exist in a different way. In the past,
Speaker 8: we joined a company and we did all of our
Speaker 8: learning there. We got trained, we bumped our head, we
Speaker 8: were successful, we weren't successful, We moved around, and we
Speaker 8: did it all inside of a four wall sort of metaphorically.
Speaker 8: But we are in a place now where kids are
Speaker 8: going to have to learn to maneuver from chapter to
Speaker 8: chapter and each chapter might look different from the last one,
Speaker 8: and so the ability to do that, that's really if
Speaker 8: you've got teenagers right now, the three things that I'm
Speaker 8: suggesting that you really work with them on or focus
Speaker 8: on is helping them build out there what we call
Speaker 8: soft skills. How do you can customer service, talking to people,
Speaker 8: problem solving, doing something that's hard and feels uncomfortable. Can
Speaker 8: you stand in front of a room and that's something
Speaker 8: those we call them soft skills that those are really
Speaker 8: the ones that companies that are really desiring right now.
Speaker 6: Because we talked.
Speaker 8: I know, we talked last week about AI and AI
Speaker 8: will replace some jobs, but for the most part, what
Speaker 8: it's going to do is it's going to impact how
Speaker 8: jobs you're done. Won't replace you, but it'll change maybe
Speaker 8: how you work. And so therefore you have to be
Speaker 8: better at those people skills, communicating, listening, problem solving, you know,
Speaker 8: being a decent person to work with. Those things are
Speaker 8: going to become magnified in terms of their importance.
Speaker 1: That's something that AI can't do. It can't act. At
Speaker 1: some point, there's there's gonna be you know, let's face it,
Speaker 1: growing number of jobs where there's no human interaction. But
Speaker 1: there's still plenty out there in the service sector.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: I just thinking of this, Julie, because the fear is AA.
Speaker 1: My daughter's studying and she's like realizing, like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm studying, it's in the computer field. It's like,
Speaker 1: AI is probably going to take this job into your future.
Speaker 1: I got to pivot and so I see what classes
Speaker 1: I have and I can change and move and she's
Speaker 1: being I think that's a smart move and may delay
Speaker 1: graduation a semester. But you know, okay, let's not get
Speaker 1: a degree in something that's worthless. Let's not do that.
Speaker 1: At the same time, she's also her income and she's
Speaker 1: a server and that's why she's paying for school and so.
Speaker 1: But she's learning though, So I think that's important, right,
Speaker 1: is they we don't want our kids to work, We
Speaker 1: want them to play sports, and we'll pay for everything.
Speaker 1: And you know, not all parents are that way. But
Speaker 1: I think having that service job where you're in front
Speaker 1: of people and you're having to deal with, you know,
Speaker 1: problematic customers and managers and schedules, and that trains you
Speaker 1: for what we're talking about here. If you spend your
Speaker 1: entire life just in front of a screen, you have
Speaker 1: no soft skills at all. You have to learn by
Speaker 1: interacting with human beings.
Speaker 8: Yes, and you said something really important there when you
Speaker 8: were talking about your daughter, So that she's taking she's
Speaker 8: in a technology field, working on her degree, and that's great,
Speaker 8: but even if parts of that are going to be
Speaker 8: impacted by AI. What she's doing, what she's modeling is
Speaker 8: and understanding and inter some technology and are willing to learn.
Speaker 8: And then you said flexible, flexible, adaptable, Another super important skills.
Speaker 8: Because if she is showing right now, look she's if
Speaker 8: she is, I look at that and I say, okay.
Speaker 8: If I was working with her to tell her story,
Speaker 8: I say, okay. I enjoyed learning about technology. I understand
Speaker 8: that things are going to change, but the basis and
Speaker 8: everything I've learned, I think it's going to help me
Speaker 8: learn more quickly whatever comes my way. In addition, I
Speaker 8: have worked as a server and a lot of customer
Speaker 8: service roles that have really taught me how to deal
Speaker 8: with all kinds of people from the general public to
Speaker 8: you know, more senior level people. And that combination really
Speaker 8: is what companies are looking for. And so that flexibility, adaptability,
Speaker 8: learn soft skills, the ability to learn, and then some
Speaker 8: level of comfort with technology. You know, we didn't do
Speaker 8: that in my day is never going to got it
Speaker 8: ever ever again, No, you have to learn.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing, is Okay. So if you're the
Speaker 1: parent of a student, or you're a student, or you're
Speaker 1: headed off to college student side, how do I know
Speaker 1: that AI is going to take this job over? Is
Speaker 1: there a letmus test for this or we just don't know?
Speaker 8: Well, you don't, And I think that's I heard one
Speaker 8: of probably one of the most prolific prognosticators on this
Speaker 8: kind of stuff being asked this question on a call
Speaker 8: in show and he said, I have no idea. Because
Speaker 8: the mom was asking how do I guide my young
Speaker 8: sons who are getting ready for college in a couple
Speaker 8: of years, and he said, I have no idea, But
Speaker 8: he said, in actence the same thing I did. The
Speaker 8: ability to learn, the ability to communicate effectively, the ability
Speaker 8: to fall in your face and get back up. That
Speaker 8: those are the things that at least as we speak today,
Speaker 8: AI cannot replace. And so it's as you have teenagers
Speaker 8: junior high high school, you know, maybe you know, insist
Speaker 8: that they get out there and get their hands dirty
Speaker 8: working with the general public, babysitting, working a don, walking
Speaker 8: the dogs, whatever it is, that being a caddy is
Speaker 8: wonderful experience for interacting with people. Don't get so caught
Speaker 8: up in they have to take every single AP class offered.
Speaker 8: And I think also from a parental standpoint, we have
Speaker 8: to get off of our there's only one right way past.
Speaker 8: And if your son or daughter is really showing an
Speaker 8: interest in working with their hands in the sort of
Speaker 8: the industrial type arts, or really, you don't have to go,
Speaker 8: oh good, you can be a blah blah blah engineer
Speaker 8: at that point when they start to show with their
Speaker 8: interest in it, and listen to them and make sure
Speaker 8: they take advantage of everything their high school offers in
Speaker 8: order to get clear on what direction they should point.
Speaker 8: They're not going to stay in that direction forever, but
Speaker 8: at least gives them solid footing to begin their career.
Speaker 8: Prom and don't the colleges are not doing this for
Speaker 8: your kids, so you have to it has to start young,
Speaker 8: and don't and really listen to what they want to do.
Speaker 8: And maybe they're not expressing it in the right word,
Speaker 8: but what they are doing, the things they gravitate towards
Speaker 8: the things they enjoy, their hobbies, all those things are
Speaker 8: clues about what they enjoy and so how do you
Speaker 8: take that and then translate that? And it's not a
Speaker 8: one and done process, and they're going to have many,
Speaker 8: many chapters in their careers.
Speaker 1: Julie Balki Our career short, but jumps on the show
Speaker 1: every Wednesday morning, breaks up a little talking correlated stuff
Speaker 1: in AI. How rough time for grads right now? But
Speaker 1: now I'm going to school and like, am I going
Speaker 1: to have a job in a year or two or
Speaker 1: three when I graduate in a field that AI is
Speaker 1: going to destroy? I mean, we always talk about how
Speaker 1: people born today are going to take jobs that have
Speaker 1: yet to be created. Now we have people that are
Speaker 1: close to graduating that are not going to get a
Speaker 1: job because it was here and then it's gone because
Speaker 1: of AI. It's really weird and you at the same time,
Speaker 1: you know, in school, we saw this during COVID, especially
Speaker 1: with you know, zoom and collaborating and everything else. But
Speaker 1: today we're telling students in school not to use AI.
Speaker 1: You've got to learn this material. And then okay, well
Speaker 1: I go to college and I'm going to need to
Speaker 1: have AI skills when I graduate. That's kind of a
Speaker 1: mixed message, isn't it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, and we've talked about this in the past,
Speaker 8: how companies are just so fed up with applicants using
Speaker 8: AI for everything to write the resumes, come up with
Speaker 8: answers to the potential interview questions, and so we're you know,
Speaker 8: the pendulum is swing and this is all still being
Speaker 8: figured out. But when you're out there, so okay, go ahead,
Speaker 8: let chat GPT, write your resume, but don't stop there,
Speaker 8: go and read it, look at it and say, okay,
Speaker 8: is this really? Is this really telling my story? Is
Speaker 8: this language I would use when I show up for
Speaker 8: an interview? Is this resume going to sound like me?
Speaker 8: You've got to put another layer over that, which is
Speaker 8: really what is you know?
Speaker 6: Who are you?
Speaker 8: And if everybody's using cat GPT to write the resumes,
Speaker 8: you aren't going to stand out. And so this isn't
Speaker 8: about and so I think it's the same with using
Speaker 8: gp GPT for anything. Don't rely it, rely it, rely
Speaker 8: it for the finished product, help you to help you
Speaker 8: get started, to fast start, and then refine from there.
Speaker 8: I think that's where when we're when we're using it
Speaker 8: just because we don't want to put the work in,
Speaker 8: or we don't want to do the hard thinking around
Speaker 8: a project or a resume or cover letters or whatever
Speaker 8: it is, that's when it starts to really really backfire
Speaker 8: because employers, and you know, whether it's employer you're interviewing
Speaker 8: with or someone you work with, can see right through that.
Speaker 1: I know AI can't replace the trades.
Speaker 8: That's true, but it will change how they're done, yeah,
Speaker 8: how they interact with customers. You know, so yeah, it's
Speaker 8: not going to retreat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you've got to you know, put a
Speaker 1: you know, sweats and plumber, put a press fitting in
Speaker 1: something you plumbing for example, you still have to do
Speaker 1: the plumbing. AA is not go did Now you may
Speaker 1: be able to use AI to do calculations and runs
Speaker 1: and stuff. Oh, that's a little different matter, but the
Speaker 1: physical nature of it until we build an AI robot
Speaker 1: that can replace a human being to build stuff that
Speaker 1: and we should And unfortunately, parents I think are waking
Speaker 1: up going, wait a minute, you're spending all this money
Speaker 1: and you know, we still have to subsidize you when
Speaker 1: you're a young adult. You should be on your own.
Speaker 1: That's not all, but that's too many. And I think
Speaker 1: parents are finally realized and there's no stigma in gaining
Speaker 1: your kids and something like that.
Speaker 8: Nope, nope. And then we're making progress there. And sometimes
Speaker 8: it's just driven by by need, you know, by demand,
Speaker 8: and to the point that we can't keep our head
Speaker 8: in the sand anymore.
Speaker 1: Well, we're still going to need people in stems, I
Speaker 1: mean science, math, Oh, gotcha, We're still going to need
Speaker 1: people with you know, if you have a business degree,
Speaker 1: you're still going to be fine. Now, am I change
Speaker 1: that a lot? But you still you can do a
Speaker 1: lot with a business degree.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, absolutely. It's a broad set of skills and
Speaker 8: knowledge that every business that looks to run a profit
Speaker 8: or even a nonprofit is going to benefit from those skills.
Speaker 8: So it's being broadly skilled, being open to learn, being
Speaker 8: eager to jump in and take on something new, and
Speaker 8: not being afraid of falling on your face. That's really
Speaker 8: what that's really in a nutshell, eployers are looking for,
Speaker 8: and we're not preparing young people, especially for the failing
Speaker 8: and getting out there and screwing up part. It's like
Speaker 8: we you know, as parents, we too many parents look
Speaker 8: at this as if you fail at something, and the
Speaker 8: fail I use the word loosely, but if you don't
Speaker 8: do well at something or something doesn't go your way,
Speaker 8: it's a direct reflection on me as a parent.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and it's really not I mean, we still
Speaker 1: have that stigma of going to you know, people where
Speaker 1: in the mom and dad university vanity stickers on the
Speaker 1: minivans there are probably my kids oh Harvard Mom. Okay, great,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make you a better person. Now if your
Speaker 1: kid goes, Hi, are you going to go to an
Speaker 1: ivy league. I'm not diminishing that at all. It's congratulations.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of people whose values of parents
Speaker 1: wrapped up in that that's unfortunate.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, yes, very much associate it all the time.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we do.
Speaker 1: Julie Balki our career.
Speaker 9: Sure.
Speaker 1: On the Scott's Loan Show. She jumps in every Wednesday morning.
Speaker 1: She's at the Bauki group dot com. Her team ready
Speaker 1: to work for you. Maybe you're going through job change.
Speaker 1: Maybe uh again. You do your work with college students
Speaker 1: as well, too, right, or even high schools.
Speaker 8: Yeah, young people or very young people like that. We
Speaker 8: have worked with the very mature juniors and seniors in
Speaker 8: college to help them prepare for what's next. Its actually,
Speaker 8: it's fun. They're really fun. They're very creative. I think
Speaker 8: we don't give them enough credit. They're so skilled in
Speaker 8: so many different ways that we just didn't value or
Speaker 8: having valued as much as we should. So, yeah, we're
Speaker 8: even working with juniors and seniors in college.
Speaker 1: No, they're not. They're just putting your questions into AI
Speaker 1: and getting an answer. What's wrong with you?
Speaker 8: No, they're not things you can't fake you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, we know exactly. You know, you kind of
Speaker 1: know when you're sitting down face to face and talking
Speaker 1: to someone, there's eye contact, there's all these things. That's
Speaker 1: why I'm a big proponent of working when you're younger
Speaker 1: and having a job in college or high school because
Speaker 1: the soft skills, the people skills, learning how to interact
Speaker 1: with folks, and so many young people today, not all
Speaker 1: of them, but far too many don't have the ability.
Speaker 1: It's like they've got to look at the screen and
Speaker 1: you know, talk in one hundred and forty one hundred
Speaker 1: and forty characters less. And I work with people like
Speaker 1: that and go, man, you got to have some ability
Speaker 1: to hold a conversation. Look somebody, the eyes, shake their hand,
Speaker 1: interact and that feels like it's a dying art and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the cornerstone what we do in the future.
Speaker 1: You want to sep yourself, separate yourself from AI, then
Speaker 1: you have to have those skills.
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Julie all the Bessel Chat next week, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: we will take care. She's at the Bauki Group Bauk
Speaker 1: bukiegroup dot com. We've got lots going on in the city,
Speaker 1: of course, and a lot of bad things are happening,
Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff. We've got the Thursday Night
Speaker 1: Football crew in town, so Cincinnati will be featured on
Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football Bengals Steelers will have the game for
Speaker 1: you with Dan and lap here on the Home of
Speaker 1: the Best Bengals coverage seven hundred WLW. My fear though,
Speaker 1: is when they shoot shoot the glamour shots of downtown
Speaker 1: and they show Fountain Square, are we going to see
Speaker 1: a swat officer standing there guarding the Genius of statue,
Speaker 1: the Genius of water statue from Aaron bullets striking the bronze.
Speaker 1: I mean literally steps away from what they're going to
Speaker 1: show on Thursday Night. Tomorrow night will be a window
Speaker 1: with a bullet hole in it. At City Chicken. Of course,
Speaker 1: we had gunplay steps away from that the day before,
Speaker 1: days before anyway, where some people who had a beef
Speaker 1: had beef with each other decide they're going to get
Speaker 1: a shoot out right in the middle of Fountain Square,
Speaker 1: but right during rush hour as well. And now the
Speaker 1: mayors come out of press conference saying the adjective of
Speaker 1: the day is intolerable. Intolerable. My adjective may be maybe incurable.
Speaker 1: Has it gone too far? Has it gone put the
Speaker 1: point of no? Which are we too far gone? Not
Speaker 1: that we can't save it, but all the adjectives and
Speaker 1: curfews and patrol, they've done little, And we just got
Speaker 1: to get back to enforcing the law, going and going
Speaker 1: after those individuals and making examples of them. There should
Speaker 1: absolutely be no wiggle room. If you are a person
Speaker 1: who has a gun on you, they shouldn't have a
Speaker 1: gun on you. And that could be someone at her age,
Speaker 1: but specifically someone under disability, meaning that person's already been
Speaker 1: convicted of a felony and the law prohibits them from carrying, using,
Speaker 1: or even thinking about a firearm. And I'm willing to
Speaker 1: bet a lot maybe the farm, even if I had
Speaker 1: a farm, that that guy that we saw in the
Speaker 1: video with a white T shirt, the thick guy, fits
Speaker 1: into that category. You know what I'm saying. I just
Speaker 1: have a sneaking suspicion that person had some priors. The
Speaker 1: way they carried, the way they acted, what they did,
Speaker 1: and just how cold they were tells me that person
Speaker 1: probably has some experience of law enforcement. Don't know what's
Speaker 1: going to initiate the change here. But the stuff they
Speaker 1: didn't want to do looks like we're doing this argument
Speaker 1: about okay, well we don't want the national Guard here.
Speaker 1: We can't have the National Guard here because it looks why, well,
Speaker 1: you know it's a federal say okay, I get the
Speaker 1: nuance between state, local, and federal government. At the same time,
Speaker 1: the average untrained eye, if I see an officer or
Speaker 1: someone who's dressed in military gear, paramilitary gear with a
Speaker 1: long gun, tactical gear, helmet, face shield, all of that stuff,
Speaker 1: I think it's police state, regardless if it's a National Guard,
Speaker 1: whether it's the US Army, or whether it's local law enforcement.
Speaker 1: I mean, stop with the semantics of it. We're at
Speaker 1: that point right now. I'm sorry, and we're at that
Speaker 1: point because well we let it get to this point.
Speaker 1: Up next on the show, Denise three House is here.
Speaker 1: She's the president of the Hamlin County Commission. Did you
Speaker 1: hear about this talk about building a new arena when
Speaker 1: that is I don't know, but there are four sites
Speaker 1: selected at least to attracted. One would be where Heritage
Speaker 1: Bank Center sits now, simply because well, how are you
Speaker 1: going to do that? You got to blow that up
Speaker 1: and then rebuild. So there's no hockey, there's no events there.
Speaker 1: What's that do for the banks? And it's kind of
Speaker 1: hard to redevelop that area. And now they've gone it
Speaker 1: for a second time and said, no, wait, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: maybe this is the best area for a wait a minute,
Speaker 1: hold on just a second. What just happened? Ask Denise
Speaker 1: about this coming up next? Scott's loan seven hundred WWT
Speaker 1: since now do you want to be an American?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 1: Scott's flown back on seven hundred wws. So last year
Speaker 1: we did a study to find out where you could
Speaker 1: put a new arena. We need a shiny new arena badly,
Speaker 1: and they came up with four sites. The spot where
Speaker 1: Heritage Bank Center sits now is ah. They looked at
Speaker 1: it and went, is this it's too small? We can't
Speaker 1: there's no way you can put an arena here all
Speaker 1: right now. MSA Sport, the agency, the group that's doing
Speaker 1: the studies, They re examined that site again recently and said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I think we can make this. I
Speaker 1: think we can make this work. Boy, this is interesting.
Speaker 1: Hemlin County Commission President Denise Dreehouse on the show on
Speaker 1: seven hundred at WLWDS. Welcome back. How are you?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm dad, how are you?
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me? Of course? All right, So this
Speaker 1: is the I don't know, maybe this is like the
Speaker 1: Italian in me. I'm not sure. But so MSA comes
Speaker 1: in a second time for free mind you, and they go,
Speaker 1: you know what, we need to really look at this
Speaker 1: this arena site again and you know what, actually we
Speaker 1: can do it if we move maring Way and we
Speaker 1: build a floodwall and do they say we can actually
Speaker 1: put a new arena on the existing site. And I
Speaker 1: heard that, And this is after the study came out
Speaker 1: just last year. It's not like, you know, five ten
Speaker 1: years have passed. This feels to me like there's tremendous
Speaker 1: pressure from people with a lot of influence strongly suggesting
Speaker 1: the site, as in, yeah, if you know it's good
Speaker 1: for you, you're going to build the arena the same site.
Speaker 1: My question is is this forced? And if so, who
Speaker 1: forced it? Because all of a sudden it didn't fit
Speaker 1: and then suddenly, praise God, the arena miracle happened and
Speaker 1: now we can fit an arena in the spot that
Speaker 1: we thought we couldn't just a year ago. What am
Speaker 1: I missing here?
Speaker 9: Well, I think there are people. I don't know, it's
Speaker 9: great influence. I'm not sure that captures it, but there
Speaker 9: are people that are advocating for all of the site.
Speaker 9: And so I think this one on the riverfront, you know,
Speaker 9: I think there was some question as to whether or
Speaker 9: not it could fit in a larger footprint. And as
Speaker 9: you say, they've moved the street to the south, They've
Speaker 9: opened up some of the parking, the surface parking down
Speaker 9: there for the project, and so it's an interest. I mean,
Speaker 9: I'm very interested in this design because it captures and
Speaker 9: utilizes some of the built infrastructure that is already down
Speaker 9: there that the county and the city and the state
Speaker 9: all partnered to you'll build all that parking infrastructure there,
Speaker 9: and from I vanage point, I want to definitely try
Speaker 9: to take advantage of build infrastructure no matter where the
Speaker 9: arena goes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I get it. You look at that
Speaker 1: and it's quite embarrassing for us to ease if you
Speaker 1: look at whether it's a county, the city, the Bengals,
Speaker 1: or all of us the banks is the fact that
Speaker 1: that was some twenty something years ago and there's still
Speaker 1: concrete piercing in there, waiting to be decked up for parking,
Speaker 1: garage and everything else. And I just can't help. But
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that this building out on the initial site,
Speaker 1: the site where the bank arena is right now, the
Speaker 1: Heriage Bank Center is now, is not a bad idea.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, is are we choosing that simply because
Speaker 1: there's so many people I know, you and the commission,
Speaker 1: the Bank's working group, the Reds, the Bengals, the big
Speaker 1: money people, the decision makers really wanted on that site
Speaker 1: because so much is invested in the banks. I understand that,
Speaker 1: But again, we have land that's ready to be developed
Speaker 1: and it's been sitting vacant for so long. I mean
Speaker 1: it's really not let's face, it doesn't take twenty years
Speaker 1: to do what the grand vision is. I just wonder
Speaker 1: if we're forcing this to make sure that we use Atlanta,
Speaker 1: and when you do that, of course, are we choosing
Speaker 1: the best site or the one that the people behind
Speaker 1: the scene want the most? And does that does is
Speaker 1: that good for taxpayers and people have come down there.
Speaker 1: I think it's a legit question.
Speaker 9: Oh, I absolutely think we should ask the question which
Speaker 9: is best for the taxpayers, And that is ultimately the
Speaker 9: question I asked myself, which one benefits the taxpayers again
Speaker 9: using this built infrastructure that the taxpayers invested in. And
Speaker 9: so I am not committed necessarily to one site over
Speaker 9: the other. I think we do need to evaluate and
Speaker 9: make sure we're picking the best site. But I think
Speaker 9: these questions have to be asked. You know, where is
Speaker 9: the biggest thing for the bug for the taxpayers. And
Speaker 9: I have always said from the very beginning that we
Speaker 9: need to recognize we've got built infrastructure in some of
Speaker 9: these locations and we don't necessarily have it in others.
Speaker 9: So I don't feel like there's a heavy hand here.
Speaker 9: I mean, there was a study that was conducted by
Speaker 9: the Chamber in partnership with the city and the county
Speaker 9: to evaluate different sites, and that's what they did, and
Speaker 9: so this isn't a dendum to that report. I don't
Speaker 9: think it's put the period on anything. So I don't
Speaker 9: quite view it in that way. And the other thing
Speaker 9: I want to mention is that the Urban Design Review Group,
Speaker 9: that again is some of the stakeholders down on the riverfront,
Speaker 9: are looking at those four sites that are still not
Speaker 9: developed and presenting a report to us mid November, and
Speaker 9: so I'm very interested in seeing what they come up with,
Speaker 9: because a lot twenty four is ready to go. The
Speaker 9: other three are not because we have to build that
Speaker 9: parking underneath. But at least we're moving on it. And
Speaker 9: I share your frustration, but at least we're moving on it.
Speaker 9: You know, you do have to have the resources to
Speaker 9: move on some of the stuff, and COVID really took
Speaker 9: a hit on our restricted funds, particularly the parking fund
Speaker 9: and the tourism fund, and so we just need to
Speaker 9: recognize the reality of you know, at least we're in
Speaker 9: a good position now where we've got a report coming
Speaker 9: forward to the city and the county to talk about
Speaker 9: those last four lots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I get we have parking infrastrucure right around it.
Speaker 1: It'd be great the length of the project, though, what
Speaker 1: happens to businesses during the time when there are no events.
Speaker 1: If this is the site we go with, that's a
Speaker 1: factor that we don't have to worry about. And a
Speaker 1: few of the other sites, you know, the West End
Speaker 1: around where the casino is another one of the sites
Speaker 1: that are being evaluated. The CETV studio or town center
Speaker 1: garages maybe a little bit, but I mean this is
Speaker 1: this is the existing arena that goes away for what
Speaker 1: a couple of years, like we saw at the Duke
Speaker 1: Energy Convention Center. But that also impacts all the foot
Speaker 1: traffic to the banks. How do we work around that.
Speaker 9: Well, let's not forget that we've got other assets down there,
Speaker 9: never mind the stadiums, but also the music venue that
Speaker 9: was meant to bring year round entertainment and business to
Speaker 9: those retailers down there. I mean, that's part of the
Speaker 9: reason we pushed so hard for the music venue for
Speaker 9: that very reason. And so if this goes offline for
Speaker 9: a while, it is just like the convention center. Look,
Speaker 9: you go down, you go dark for a while, You
Speaker 9: make the investments, you make sure that end product is
Speaker 9: better and will draw more business than what we had previously,
Speaker 9: and in the end there is a benefit, and you
Speaker 9: do it as quickly as you can. And that's exactly
Speaker 9: what we did with the convention Center. And I would
Speaker 9: expect that's what it's this word to be cited there
Speaker 9: at that site, then I would expect the same thing
Speaker 9: to happen there.
Speaker 1: What do you do with the cyclones? For two years
Speaker 1: biggest tenant.
Speaker 9: I don't I don't know the answer to that. I mean,
Speaker 9: I'm not in the weeds like that. I'll admit I'm
Speaker 9: looking at the different options. I mean, let's not forget
Speaker 9: that we don't have the money to do this right now.
Speaker 9: So I've said this a million times, like this is
Speaker 9: on the radar, it's on the list. It's not at
Speaker 9: the top of my list because we are invested in
Speaker 9: the convention center renovation. We just finished up the Bengals deal.
Speaker 9: We've got a lot on our plate that are really
Speaker 9: really big projects. And so you know, while the arena,
Speaker 9: you know, conversation is important and we're part of it,
Speaker 9: we do not have financing in place to construct a
Speaker 9: new arena, so we we were missing a piece of
Speaker 9: this at the moment.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the other thing too is it's what it's still
Speaker 1: be publicly owned but publicly funded because the environ entertainment
Speaker 1: owns it. But I'm here, like seventy percent investment, and
Speaker 1: then you know there's that, and then what about the
Speaker 1: private investment too. Those are pieces that still have to
Speaker 1: come together, right one hundred percent.
Speaker 9: Yeah, we're looking for a financial stack that makes sense
Speaker 9: because as you say it's privately owned right now, so
Speaker 9: I don't know is it is it public owned private owned?
Speaker 9: I mean, look, we have limited resources. I just you know,
Speaker 9: and so to assume that the county has the ability
Speaker 9: to step in here and renovates this is not realistic.
Speaker 9: You know, we are a partner in this, that we
Speaker 9: have limited resources, and I just want to emphasize that.
Speaker 9: So we are not where we need to be with
Speaker 9: a financial steck. We're looking at it. I mean, we've
Speaker 9: got experts looking at it. And so to answer your
Speaker 9: questions about public ownership private ownership, I don't know the
Speaker 9: answer of that because we haven't resolved that question.
Speaker 1: One of the big questions Commission President in east your
Speaker 1: house to ask would be, well you got to work
Speaker 1: with the city on this one too, And then often
Speaker 1: cases is I mean, I guess I just look at
Speaker 1: if we have peace between Israel and Palestine, I suppose
Speaker 1: that the city and the county can get along on
Speaker 1: some things. And what about the railroad money, That is
Speaker 1: something that the city has for infrastructure. I don't know
Speaker 1: if what applies here and that's the railroad sale. Proceeds
Speaker 1: in the railroad sale that would go just to infrastructure
Speaker 1: and roads in the city. I don't know if there's
Speaker 1: a carve out there or you're able to take some
Speaker 1: of those moneyes or not. Has that conversation been had
Speaker 1: at all with the city.
Speaker 9: Well, we're working very closely with the city on a
Speaker 9: number of projects, not the least of which is again
Speaker 9: mentioned center and the convention Center hotel, and so it's
Speaker 9: not the days of old where the county and the
Speaker 9: city are fighting with each other. That is not the case.
Speaker 9: I mean I have regular meetings with AaB and council
Speaker 9: members about a number of issues. So we are in
Speaker 9: good stead with the city. And my expectation is that
Speaker 9: any financial stack we come up with includes the city,
Speaker 9: the county, the private side, perhaps the state. I mean,
Speaker 9: we need to look at all options. It's an expensive proposal.
Speaker 9: We don't again we don't have those final numbers, but
Speaker 9: it's going to have to be a collaborative approach to.
Speaker 1: This and that's getting stuff done. Although you know, as
Speaker 1: I pointed out the beginning, Denise, I look at the
Speaker 1: empty vastness around the banks and still areas yet twenty years,
Speaker 1: two decades you have to be developed and on that
Speaker 1: we're talking about the Duke Energy Convention Center too, getting
Speaker 1: ready to open up, I think, you know, first quarter
Speaker 1: of the year and pretty soon it's going up. What
Speaker 1: happened to the hotel?
Speaker 9: Oh, it's well, so let's I want to be clear
Speaker 9: about that. What's left on the banks this will be
Speaker 9: private development. This is not going to be your government development.
Speaker 9: So we will look to the private side, and I
Speaker 9: think there's a lot of potential there because I think
Speaker 9: people do want to develop down there. Same with the
Speaker 9: host Headquarter hotel. It's a private development. There are incentives
Speaker 9: from the state, the city, the county in that deal
Speaker 9: to make sure that it happens. And that's moving along.
Speaker 9: So I don't know if you've seen the renderings, but
Speaker 9: they're pretty fantastic and it will allow us to have
Speaker 9: the room blocks that we need for the conventions that
Speaker 9: we're going to get because the convention center is so
Speaker 9: much better than it used to be and the apartment holdings.
Speaker 9: The group that is going to do that development just
Speaker 9: to the south of the convention center also has purchased
Speaker 9: the Wesson and so that is a great opportunity for
Speaker 9: us to not only have the seven hundred keys in
Speaker 9: the hotel, that's going to be new, but also utilize
Speaker 9: the wespons for those blocks. So it's a real opportunity.
Speaker 9: I'm very excited about that.
Speaker 1: How soon before we start. I haven't been down there
Speaker 1: in a while, so I don't have they done site
Speaker 1: work yet or if they got anything in yet. What's
Speaker 1: the timeline?
Speaker 9: I believe what's moving. I know that it's moving because
Speaker 9: I think some of these reports will be coming out.
Speaker 9: I think it's twenty twenty six, seven eight something like that.
Speaker 9: Remember it's a seven hundred key hotel, so the convention
Speaker 9: Center will come online far before that, and we've got
Speaker 9: capacity in the downtown hotels.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 9: The key to that, or the Convention Center hotel is
Speaker 9: that they can be relegated for the conventions, and so
Speaker 9: a group that wants to come in and do conventions
Speaker 9: in Cincinnati won't have to have hotel rooms spread all
Speaker 9: all over the city. They'll be located right across the street.
Speaker 9: We'll have a skywalk over the street, and so that
Speaker 9: will really help, you know, kind of a turbocharge some
Speaker 9: of the conventions that are.
Speaker 1: Coming in all right, kind of got off on the
Speaker 1: weeds there, as I often knew because of my brain
Speaker 1: the add Denise, but you know high role Hamlin County
Speaker 1: Commission President in Eastreehouse, I'm with Slowney seven hundred WLW
Speaker 1: and kind of update there with the hotel and the
Speaker 1: convention center project where we're talking about the new arena.
Speaker 1: A story comes out that says MSA Sport has on
Speaker 1: their own dime re examined the current Heritage Bank site
Speaker 1: and said, you know what, we actually can make this work.
Speaker 1: We can put a new arena there, which opens up
Speaker 1: a host of other questions as well, namely shutting that
Speaker 1: thing down for a couple of years and what that
Speaker 1: looks like for the banks and how you pay for it,
Speaker 1: of course, are huge issues right now. So it sounds
Speaker 1: like we're way down the line here before timeline. You know,
Speaker 1: what time do we start making a final decision and
Speaker 1: picking a site in you know, specifically the financing and
Speaker 1: when do you see this coming together if at all?
Speaker 9: Well, I don't know if it all is an option,
Speaker 9: but I think I don't know. I mean, as I
Speaker 9: told you, you know from my vantage point.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm interested in this.
Speaker 9: I think it's a big deal for the city and
Speaker 9: the county, but I am not later focused on this
Speaker 9: because we've got so many other things that were invested in.
Speaker 9: But I know the ideas are moving forward. This new
Speaker 9: look at the riverfront property, you know, just just came out,
Speaker 9: so you know, we're still studying it. But the big
Speaker 9: elephant in the room is the financing. And I have
Speaker 9: not seen a financial stack that pays.
Speaker 1: For this, okay, So that's a long way down the line.
Speaker 1: And how much of a factor, too, is and this
Speaker 1: is more short term I think, because we're talking years.
Speaker 1: Is what's happening in the city. As I mentioned, the
Speaker 1: conflict in the city and the county. Sometimes often cases
Speaker 1: it teams here at odds with each other, at least
Speaker 1: from the public perspective. But I'm looking at the violence
Speaker 1: of the crime on Fountain Square and around the city.
Speaker 1: We've got a new convention center that's going to open up,
Speaker 1: We've got a hotel that's going to go in. We're
Speaker 1: talking about building a new arena and getting more people
Speaker 1: downtime at a time where people were testifying about moving
Speaker 1: out of downtown because of the violence. What kind of
Speaker 1: role does a county have in this and working along
Speaker 1: with the city. I know you've been kind of silent
Speaker 1: spectators on the sidelines, although Sheriff McGuffey is doing everything
Speaker 1: she can to enforce the laws of the city. But
Speaker 1: that's an area that's often not talked about between the
Speaker 1: city and the county, but clearly there's a overlay and
Speaker 1: the ven diagram of violence.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and when we do work with the city, and
Speaker 9: I have been in contact with a mayor and council member,
Speaker 9: the sheriff is the one that's our law and public
Speaker 9: safety person right at the county. And so if you'll
Speaker 9: recall back when there was an influx of violence, the
Speaker 9: sheriff for thirty days did to patrol like a sweep
Speaker 9: of Court Street. They you know, it's an overlap of
Speaker 9: what CPD was doing. And so she came in with
Speaker 9: her folks and said, Okay, we're going to take Court Street.
Speaker 9: We're going to get things under control up here. And
Speaker 9: so she did, and there was a partnership between the
Speaker 9: city and the county and so that ended, things got better.
Speaker 9: And so now I know the sheriff and the mayor
Speaker 9: are talking again about the counties roll in again, it's
Speaker 9: through the sheriff as to what that partnership will look
Speaker 9: like here. But you are correct. I mean, if we
Speaker 9: have continued violence in the city cores that obviously impacts
Speaker 9: all of what we're just talking about, whether it's on
Speaker 9: the banks or down a Fountain Square or you know,
Speaker 9: some of these iconic places in the city and in
Speaker 9: the county, and we need to get it under control.
Speaker 9: And so we are talking to the city. I know
Speaker 9: the sheriff importantly is talking to CPD to try to
Speaker 9: figure out what the best strategies are. It's a work
Speaker 9: in progress, but you know there, I heard some pretty
Speaker 9: strong language at the press conference yesterday, and so looking
Speaker 9: forward to our continued partnership there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't get whether the partnership dissolved in the
Speaker 1: first place. And now it's like in Hindsight's twenty twenty
Speaker 1: goe boy, you could use more boots on the ground,
Speaker 1: We could use use sheriffs controls in certain areas here,
Speaker 1: and now we've got slot officers standard. It's not a
Speaker 1: good look for the city as we try to build
Speaker 1: a nice new shiny things to keep them from the
Speaker 1: outside coming in.
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, let me just clarify that. You know, the
Speaker 9: city asked us to come in for a month to
Speaker 9: do this work, and so that's exactly what the sheriff did, right,
Speaker 9: And some of it is just a matter of you know,
Speaker 9: finances and resources because it's really CPD's territory. I mean,
Speaker 9: the sheriff is coming in to a territory that CPDS
Speaker 9: happily helping to do that. But there it has to
Speaker 9: be if we're going to have a long term arrangement,
Speaker 9: we have to figure that out. That'll include some resources
Speaker 9: from the city, from the county. And so if that's
Speaker 9: the goal, then something we're open to talking about. That
Speaker 9: was not what we were asked to do, for my understanding,
Speaker 9: and so the sheriff of which she was asked to do.
Speaker 9: And so now you know there's a continued conversation with her,
Speaker 9: and there are other actors and all of this. Can
Speaker 9: I back up and say one thing I forgot to mention,
Speaker 9: and it's on a more positive note. Over at the
Speaker 9: convention center, So the convention Center is being redone at
Speaker 9: the city County County partnership. A hotel will go just
Speaker 9: to the south. Let's not forget about the property to
Speaker 9: the east where the Millennium used to sty Oh yeah,
Speaker 9: I remember the Millennium hotel. County invested there got that
Speaker 9: under control to get down that space is this big
Speaker 9: green space that we are going to be programming and
Speaker 9: it allows us to program stuff that convention stuff that
Speaker 9: would otherwise be in a building, but move it outside.
Speaker 9: And this is something that is a trend in the market.
Speaker 9: I'm super excited there. We're way ahead of the trends
Speaker 9: here and to use that for programmable space for conferences
Speaker 9: and sessions, but also for social events, it's going to
Speaker 9: be a real game changer for the convention center.
Speaker 1: She is Hamlin County Commissioned President Denise Dreehouse on the
Speaker 1: show this morning and talking about the arena site and
Speaker 1: Heritage Bank Center and that may be the spot where
Speaker 1: we put a new arena on top of the old
Speaker 1: one and what that all means. And that's a little
Speaker 1: bit down the line, but I appreciate it coming on
Speaker 1: this morning and then laying that out for us. Denise.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're well and we'll talk again soon.
Speaker 9: Yeah, thank you, Scott. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. We'll get to a news update and more
Speaker 1: to follow. Sarah release and the Snort report stands by
Speaker 1: Next Bengals and Thursday Night Football in Town at pay
Speaker 1: court to tomorrow night light it up here seven hundred
Speaker 1: so long, it feels like it's been so long.
Speaker 3: How are you well, you're the one who's crippled.
Speaker 1: How are you share? Relisa snort report? She comes over
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Speaker 1: And then she comes and snort your way through sports
Speaker 1: and Wednesday mornings and such.
Speaker 2: Here with you.
Speaker 1: It's been been a while. What do we do? Last
Speaker 1: got the crutches? I got crutches. One more week. I
Speaker 1: think next Tuesday the crutches should go bye bye and.
Speaker 3: You'll be walking around again. I missed the scooter. Yeah, selfishly,
Speaker 3: I liked riding around on it like I was the
Speaker 3: dude from Soul.
Speaker 1: And she's she's been driving me around like to work
Speaker 1: every morning for two weeks.
Speaker 3: She's your personal uber.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm like, you know what, I probably can
Speaker 1: get the crutches instead of the scooter and that's fine.
Speaker 3: And one more week and week?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, good is new?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 1: I heard anything like that? So I think I'm ready
Speaker 1: to go, but I don't want to push it till.
Speaker 3: And that's what happens is once you start to feel good,
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, I'm going to go run a marathon
Speaker 3: and then you're back and good.
Speaker 1: I still have the boot and the crutches, so I
Speaker 1: got it. I'm gonna good boy, I'm gonna wait till
Speaker 1: my my doc. Doctor Baker says, let's go.
Speaker 3: Well, this is the time for the older gentlemen because
Speaker 3: we are getting ready for the icy hot bulls.
Speaker 1: And a little bit.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna share some of the comments on social media
Speaker 3: because it is so funny. So we know Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 3: being forty one, Joe Flacco forty years old, which I'm
Speaker 3: not too far from these guys. So all the older
Speaker 3: people comments kind has me a little triggered.
Speaker 1: Well it should be, got of triggered a little bit.
Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, I'm not far from that.
Speaker 1: Well, the funny part is at my side.
Speaker 3: It's like, forty forty still young, right for you? You're like,
Speaker 3: kill me forty forty. But it is kind of ironic
Speaker 3: that you got the older dudes out there and you
Speaker 3: got the young guys in a boot like yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, walking around Burrow with um must up toe. You
Speaker 1: feel about tomorrow night?
Speaker 5: You know what?
Speaker 3: I'm excited. I'm excited. I feel optimistic about it.
Speaker 1: What makes you feel optimistic?
Speaker 3: You know what, Joe Flacco looked really good in that
Speaker 3: second halfened Green Bay. I feel like he finally settled in.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, you got to give you got to
Speaker 3: give the guy some credit. It was a very last
Speaker 3: minute notice to get that call to go to Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: He had maybe two days to practice with the team,
Speaker 3: and it was on a plane to Green Bay and
Speaker 3: you're you're doing You're battling it out at Lambeau, which
Speaker 3: is also a really hard place to play. Head coach
Speaker 3: Zac Taylor and his presser the other day he goes, look,
Speaker 3: Joe didn't even know the names of most of the
Speaker 3: guys on the team yet. He's still trying to settle in.
Speaker 1: But Flo has done this a little bit, so he's like,
Speaker 1: this is not his first roads. Like he's seen pretty
Speaker 1: much off of every offensive scheme that you.
Speaker 3: Can He's set up pretty much the entire AFC North.
Speaker 3: He could be with the Steelers by the time this
Speaker 3: season's over and Joe Burrow is back on the.
Speaker 1: Field, right because if something happens to a rod right now,
Speaker 1: you're thinking now, you're thinking, so I'll.
Speaker 3: Be there tomorrow night with my dad. We never miss
Speaker 3: the Bengals Steelers game. This is one we always look
Speaker 3: forward to, no matter who the quarterback is.
Speaker 1: We've seen it all.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, we've seen too many losses.
Speaker 1: I think it's that again. I think here's the problem
Speaker 1: right the offensive line. Okay, there's some work to do
Speaker 1: there obviously, still and he you know, they kept them upright,
Speaker 1: which is a great thing. Maybe different to get the Steelers, but.
Speaker 3: I actually had what one sack last year?
Speaker 1: But the last problem is it damn you know? Okay,
Speaker 1: the offense showed them in the second half, but the
Speaker 1: defense fall apart.
Speaker 3: Can we just have it all? Please? And what about
Speaker 3: Moneymack with Like the sixty seven yarder that didn't count.
Speaker 1: In my head on my back thing in the entire game.
Speaker 3: I looked at my husband, I said, you know, when
Speaker 3: it does count, he's not going to make it.
Speaker 1: Of course not that's a hard sixty seven is a
Speaker 1: big ask. Like that's the whole field again, Bengal luck
Speaker 1: working against us in this case.
Speaker 3: This is I feel about tomorrow night?
Speaker 2: Do you want?
Speaker 1: I mean? I okay, look at okay, you got Joe Flacco.
Speaker 1: He's hitting some of the guy. Okay, can you outscore Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: At this point, I just the defense show no Like
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, I haven't seen damn thing
Speaker 1: out of the defense. It makes me think that they
Speaker 1: can carry this team into the fourth quarter. That's what
Speaker 1: scares me about it, because I think Pittsburgh just smash mouth.
Speaker 1: They're going to come in and I think it's going
Speaker 1: to be close in it maybe another Green Bay situation.
Speaker 3: I think it is going to be a close game.
Speaker 3: I have no idea what's going to happen tomorrow night.
Speaker 1: I feel like every time you gotta win, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is it.
Speaker 3: Every time it's a surprise. But yes, this is a
Speaker 3: must win situation if you want to try to keep
Speaker 3: up in the AFC North, Yep, take advantage of how
Speaker 3: bad the Browns and the Ravens are doing.
Speaker 1: Take advantage of that, right, full advantage. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: tough to catch Pittsburgh, but you get it because you
Speaker 1: got at Pittsburgh. It's yeah, it's kind of then.
Speaker 3: You and then you've got ten days off to get
Speaker 3: it together with your new QB. So this really is
Speaker 3: a must win for the bast.
Speaker 1: You gotta come out and you go to that buy
Speaker 1: of the win, half the win. This must win otherwise.
Speaker 1: I don't know how they I don't know how they
Speaker 1: pull it off.
Speaker 3: I don't know how you keep up in the conversation.
Speaker 3: You do. I don't want this to be a four
Speaker 3: win season.
Speaker 1: Okay, please?
Speaker 6: But yeah.
Speaker 3: With Aaron Rodgers being forty one Flak being forty, this
Speaker 3: is just the second matchup of starting QB's forty or
Speaker 3: older in NFL history, So we're witnessing.
Speaker 1: This is great for you.
Speaker 3: I am so excited for this. Okay, I think this
Speaker 3: is great. The comments are hilarious. But Tom Brady and
Speaker 3: Drew Brees the last one is to do it back
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty, So get ready for history. Baby. This
Speaker 3: is fun.
Speaker 1: This historic. Did they take a nap at halftime? There's
Speaker 1: like a five minute too.
Speaker 3: That's what I was going to get to. So some
Speaker 3: of the comments under the post this is the battle
Speaker 3: of the Granddaddy's. Oh my gosh, I feel so old.
Speaker 3: Instead of a sideline reporter, put a staff of nurses
Speaker 3: out there. A few other ones this game should be
Speaker 3: sponsored by AARP, calling it the Geriatric Bowl. Someone said
Speaker 3: eight point fifteen is too late of a start for
Speaker 3: guys that are in bed by seven.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you can't do that. He should be
Speaker 1: playing the London game.
Speaker 3: Look, we just at the morning. I want to sit
Speaker 3: there with my Cinne bums and watch the daddies go
Speaker 3: at it. Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'll be there with my dad. We just laugh to
Speaker 3: keep him crying. That's what happens.
Speaker 1: That's all you can do is as a Bengals fan,
Speaker 1: because at this point will be going how many days?
Speaker 1: If they lose tomorrow, it's how many days till opening day?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Mike, what are we at one fifty? I don't know
Speaker 3: something like that. We've got Reds Fest in January. That's
Speaker 3: something to look forward to.
Speaker 1: The dude, Pittsburgh. All teams beat Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: I said, must win. Some positive news, how golden. Yesterday
Speaker 3: talking to media our defensive coordinator, he said that Shamar
Speaker 3: Stewart finally back. Remember he went down week two with
Speaker 3: that ankle injury. I know we're all kind of like,
Speaker 3: who's Schamar's Stewart?
Speaker 1: What happened to him?
Speaker 6: So?
Speaker 3: Anyways, he's back. Not sure what's going to go down
Speaker 3: with Trey Hendrickson dealing with a bad back injury. I
Speaker 3: think he's playing tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We think.
Speaker 3: I think we'll see him there minutes before kickoff, right,
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor will say, uh, hey, by the way, he'll
Speaker 3: be out there.
Speaker 1: We will see Stewart tomorrow.
Speaker 3: That's what Al Golden is saying.
Speaker 1: Okay, that'll be big. He needs a He looked good
Speaker 1: in the limited starts he had. But yeah, getting some
Speaker 1: guy's healthy, Gaina back there, that's going to help tremendously.
Speaker 3: I think so Logan Wilson or yeah, Logan Wilson had
Speaker 3: talked to media yesterday about getting benched for that Green
Speaker 3: Bay game.
Speaker 1: Talk about old. There's your guy getting old. That's what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 3: He's not old, he's not even thirty.
Speaker 1: Okay, but he doesn't look the same Zack. Looking old
Speaker 1: and feeling old are two differentings.
Speaker 3: I understand that. Unfortunately, I'm going through both. I know
Speaker 3: I'm looking old, I'm feeling old.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing okay looking old, Sarah. Feeling old like so.
Speaker 3: Many needles you can put in my face, and needles
Speaker 3: into your ankle and your foot and your knee and
Speaker 3: your clder and everything. You're doing it, You're going to
Speaker 3: be like Joe Burrow, like a whole robotic.
Speaker 1: I'm doing it. You feel better. You do it to
Speaker 1: look better. Those are two different types of procedures.
Speaker 3: Hey, when you look good, you feel good, feel good, Okay, good, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Don't overdo it. Don't turn into plastic surgery mass. You're
Speaker 1: not going to do that.
Speaker 3: Are you going to afford to do that?
Speaker 1: It's probably a good thing.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 3: God's like, I'm going to keep you poor, so you
Speaker 3: don't get.
Speaker 1: Had plastic surgery in their thirties and forties, but then
Speaker 1: they're fifty, they look like the scream masks.
Speaker 3: Oh look yeah, you only want the screen mask for
Speaker 3: one day out of the year for folloween so but yeah.
Speaker 3: So Logan Wilson he had talked to media about getting bench.
Speaker 3: She said, I can look back at this time of
Speaker 3: adversity and be able to tell my kids how to
Speaker 3: work through It. Looks like the Bengals are going to
Speaker 3: be starting Barrett Barrett Carter. So he told Barrett that
Speaker 3: he wants to help him out in any way. There's
Speaker 3: no hard feelings about anything. Logan Wilson handling it like
Speaker 3: a true pro and Barrett said nothing but love and
Speaker 3: respect for Logan Wilson.
Speaker 6: So there you go.
Speaker 3: That's what's trending with our Bengals.
Speaker 1: Okay, and I saw the Thursday football teams are in
Speaker 1: town already getting the paycore ready to go. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: great under the lights. The weather's gonna be phenomenal.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's gonna feel like football weather. It's gonna be gorgeous.
Speaker 3: It's a bag white out.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The team had a late night practice. They actually had
Speaker 3: it at paycor Stadium last night and they were getting
Speaker 3: the white out ready. So go check out the Bengals
Speaker 3: social media for that.
Speaker 1: They've got like.
Speaker 3: White and black tiger striped walls up against the you know,
Speaker 3: around the whole field. It looks really cool. So if
Speaker 3: you look cool, you're gonna play cool, right, all right?
Speaker 3: Even in the icy hot Bowl. The Bengals did't announce
Speaker 3: the other day that the ruler of the Jungle is
Speaker 3: going to be Andrew Whitworth. He kind of gives the
Speaker 3: Bengals a hard time. Do I love?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And I think that's okay.
Speaker 1: You can be both.
Speaker 3: You can be a fan and you can also give
Speaker 3: your team a hard time. I think it should be
Speaker 3: like that all right.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 1: The big question is can he suit up? No, can
Speaker 1: we put him out there. It's not the injuries on
Speaker 1: the field. It's the injuries like at Fountain Square, anybody
Speaker 1: gets shot.
Speaker 3: Why would you go there?
Speaker 1: Because that's the big story today.
Speaker 3: Did you see that they're gonna have police and swats
Speaker 3: it up front two pm?
Speaker 1: To the National Guard? Here, we can't have the National Guard.
Speaker 1: It looks it's terribly you got these uniform paramilitary troopers.
Speaker 1: By the way, we're gonna have swat officers. I think
Speaker 1: to the untrained eye, you look at a swat officer
Speaker 1: and you look at it, we kind of freak out
Speaker 1: a little round. Well, you look at the National guardsman,
Speaker 1: I know the difference between the two obviously, but when
Speaker 1: for the amatursity you look at it go, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's a guy that's just in tactical gear with them
Speaker 1: the sult type or right full and a helmet on.
Speaker 1: It's like, what whether it's the National Garden, it's the
Speaker 1: same thing. And you're still not leaning into having the
Speaker 1: troopers come down, State troopers and and that whole thing.
Speaker 1: It's like it's just more of the same. It's like
Speaker 1: you could see this coming because they just slow played
Speaker 1: the whole thing going Okay, well we'll try a little more.
Speaker 1: How are the curfews working out?
Speaker 3: And how's it's it's not the curfew thing is not
Speaker 3: working Yeah, clearly. And you know it's bad when Jeff
Speaker 3: Ruby's releases the presser and starts making.
Speaker 1: Moves, start making taking Olympika out. Oohlim on, Tom properties,
Speaker 1: I guess I get that, but it's like it's a
Speaker 1: safety issue and we're moving it to Walnut and correct.
Speaker 1: Tell you what, you have more bullets flying and Fountain Square,
Speaker 1: that nice shiny rubies you're eating at They're gonna move.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine? And we don't want them, do you imagine? No,
Speaker 1: the flagship restaurant for the culinary experience in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: Britney Ruby is my mayor of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Is she pulls out of there?
Speaker 3: Oh we're done. We don't want that to happen. That
Speaker 3: is a beautiful restaurant. Oh you're right around the corner.
Speaker 3: You've got the lighting of the Christmas tree coming up.
Speaker 3: You've got all you know, the ice skating coming like,
Speaker 3: let's come on, get it together.
Speaker 1: Well, you got this clown that just keeps going. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, we got a little more, you know, more
Speaker 1: hands on. We need more programs, and this is what
Speaker 1: happens when you just let sociopaths run the streets unchecked.
Speaker 3: An eight o'clock shooting on a Monday night, right right
Speaker 3: outside of Jeff Ruby's not good, Ballsy not good. And
Speaker 3: it's not just the teenagers. Now, these were twenty year
Speaker 3: olds that were involved. Yeah, a couple of teens, a
Speaker 3: twenty four year old dude. And they're still looking for
Speaker 3: the GODI, the big guy. Uh huh, looking for Biggie Smalls.
Speaker 3: That video was triggering. They released that the other night.
Speaker 1: I don't know this, this fat guy. That's the streets.
Speaker 1: The guy couldn't have gone to Maybe you want to
Speaker 1: stake out a drive through.
Speaker 3: But yeah, there's a lot going on in Cincinnati. Uh
Speaker 3: this weekend. You know, You've got the Bengals tomorrow night,
Speaker 3: and then FC Cincinnati for their fan appreciation night at
Speaker 3: t Q well, and then Cyclones hockey is back on
Speaker 3: Saturday night. And guess who's sounding the siren? Your husband,
Speaker 3: our girl Tiff Potter, she is, Yes, I will be
Speaker 3: there with her on Saturday night. She got a job fast,
Speaker 3: I know, sounding the siren for the Cincinnati Cyclones for
Speaker 3: the first face off. Yeah, it'll be a good time.
Speaker 1: All right, good, well, she needs to get out and
Speaker 1: have some fun after the reduction and force.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, yes, we very much. But she's gonna land on
Speaker 3: her feet on shore and do great things.
Speaker 1: That's the nature of our economy these days.
Speaker 3: Go out and support our cyclones and our girl tiff
Speaker 3: on Saturday.
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? I just had Denise Treehouse.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard that at all, but
Speaker 1: the shoes talking about the arena. They want to put
Speaker 1: the arena on top of the old arena. Now that
Speaker 1: that's open. I want to her lean on that because
Speaker 1: that sounds like that was off the table. How are
Speaker 1: we going to do?
Speaker 6: So?
Speaker 1: What are you going to do with the cyclones? If
Speaker 1: they shut the they blow the arena up and it's
Speaker 1: closed for two years, what are they gonna play?
Speaker 3: I guess they could take over.
Speaker 1: Or would they go to Kentucky? I probably would you play?
Speaker 1: You can't plan. I'm thinking where you played like Sports
Speaker 1: Plus had never hold it or North lond It's not
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get seating there. So whatd it have
Speaker 1: to be at?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they sent ten thousand heritage so they have
Speaker 3: ice capacity at Northern Kentucky. You can lay some lice,
Speaker 3: lay some ice anywhere.
Speaker 1: I guess you can. You need a refrigeration. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess you could do a raise thing like they
Speaker 1: do for the Winter Classic. But I don't know how
Speaker 1: you freeze that if there's no Well.
Speaker 3: The arena managers, well, I guess they put everything on
Speaker 3: top of ice constantly for concerts and comedians.
Speaker 1: But the ice, the the integration for the ice is
Speaker 1: below the surface too. He's gonna have to refrigerate it.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if a floating I don't know
Speaker 1: how they do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know either.
Speaker 1: I have to be Northern Kentucky if they do it.
Speaker 1: But that's interesting anyway, Go to Dayton, Send them up
Speaker 1: to Dayton, Google play there.
Speaker 3: Selfishly, I don't want that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of a drunk right now.
Speaker 3: I'm a mile away, so I'm like stick around here
Speaker 3: somehow find out. But they do deserve a new arena.
Speaker 1: All right, snorts. Give me a prediction for tomorrow. What
Speaker 1: do you got, Bengals? Oh my gosh, I think it's
Speaker 1: too Steelers six. Is that what you're going with?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, twenty seventeen, Bengals twenty seventeen Moneymack twenty
Speaker 3: seventeen at the end to win it a sixty seven yarder.
Speaker 1: All right, what do you think I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be ready for this one?
Speaker 2: Ready?
Speaker 8: One?
Speaker 1: Twenty four to twenty four tie?
Speaker 3: Sweet? Can we please stop the ties and everything?
Speaker 1: It's so bad. I hate ties.
Speaker 3: It's just play until you winil so.
Speaker 1: Many dies falls over, that's the game.
Speaker 3: Like baseball. You got to go to fifteen innings to
Speaker 3: get it done, and so be it.
Speaker 1: Keep Southern death. That's fine if you need to do
Speaker 1: the the overtimerals, but just keep going till you get
Speaker 1: a winner. Ties are dumb.
Speaker 6: I hate it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what are the Packers now? Three?
Speaker 2: One and one?
Speaker 3: This is soccer, stupid, No, and soccer shouldn't end in
Speaker 3: a tie either. Just go and tell your score.
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