WEBVTT - 10-15-25 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:04.360 In American way to midweek, here we go Scott's flown 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:08.800 back on seven hundred w WELW. He called it intolerable. 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:11.480 One of the latest, the longest list of adjectives I've 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:14.360 ever heard about crime in Cincinnati. The new one is intolerable. 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:16.360 That would be your adjective of the day, is what 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:20.720 mayor have to Puerval called the violence downtown, the back 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:24.200 to back shootings on Fountain Square and says significant changes 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:26.840 are coming after all that. So we're going to see 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:29.280 swat on Fountain Square. We're going to see the Civil 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:32.760 Disturbance Response Team whatever that is, on Fountain Square, and 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:35.680 it's going to look like parts of Gaza. Chief Terry 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:38.640 Thiji is commanding her officers to make contact with people 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.280 for even the most minor offenses. That's called the broken 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:45.720 windows theory of policing, which is just absolutely as sailed 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:49.160 for years by progressives, is just punching down on people 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:52.559 and stopping them and causing distrust in the community. And now, 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:56.000 guess what turns out that strategy might work a little bit. Huh. 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:59.320 But before the Mayor's Presser Council had a public safety 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.280 hearing yesterday, it was really hard to hear that, and 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:04.320 you could hear the frustration from residents. 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:07.720 Listen, I am not able to tell future tenants and 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:08.959 they would be safe. 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.240 I've been down the district to a couple times myself. 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:13.560 I just don't feel like we're getting the results that 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:15.880 we need to make our tenants feel safe. It feels 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:17.520 like something has shifted. 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:20.720 Two of our best friends who live in the neighborhood 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:21.600 have decided to move. 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:24.720 The violence has just gotten out of control. 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.480 Honest and more is council member Anna, I'll be with 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:31.720 law in public safety. She sits on the committee and 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:35.920 sat through that difficult testimony yesterday, Anna, good morning, how 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:37.360 you been by? 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:39.319 Good morning? Thanks got having me. I appreciate it. 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:41.600 Yeah. Well, your reaction when you're sitting there listening to 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:45.560 all these people say, look, I have his investment of property, 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:48.640 and I'm a landlord who I feel him is imagine going, hey, 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:51.480 I have people who won't rent because they afraid they're 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:53.440 going to get shot, or someone has said, hey, listen, 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:56.080 my circle of friends, they're all moving out because they've 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:59.040 got small kids, or they just fear their safety. That 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:01.120 was some of the most telling testimony I think I've 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:03.680 heard in a long time, and it shows you how 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:06.000 far gone things are. What was your immediate reaction. 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:10.639 Well, immediately in the moment, I made sure my staff 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:14.120 got all those folks compact information, and I was taking 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:17.320 diligent notes. You know, I take all of this very 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:21.760 very seriously. You know, public safety, making sure people feel 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.400 safe is my number one priority, and I know that shared. 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:28.480 So I followed up afterwards with the city manager and 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.240 the police chief listing out the issues that we heard. 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:34.160 I took notes on the exact location, so you know 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:37.000 we're going to take action here. I also spoke with 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.840 the assistant police chief yesterday about another issue that was 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:44.040 brought to my attention. So we're really taking action here 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:48.320 and using police based solutions to really dig into what's 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:51.280 happening in this specific spot to make sure that we 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:55.080 can everyone feels safe, feel safe in our safe right. 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:56.639 It'stion plus reality. 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:59.960 I'm hereath the Grapevines about Well, we heard this small 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:03.160 learning about Jeff Ruby's Lempica, which used to be the 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:05.320 main location in the Art deco restaurant on Seventh Street, 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:08.160 and they've now turned that into an event space. Actually, 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:09.400 I was at a wedding there a few months ago. 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:12.160 And this absolutely spectaculars way over the top. It's so nice. 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:14.919 They're closing that location and maybe a beef with the 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:17.840 landlord with Town Properties, which I get because there's some 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:19.880 safety issues like door if not being locked and things 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:21.880 like that, and so we don't feel safe and our 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:24.720 businesses compromise. So we're closing that up despite a huge 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:26.440 investment in that. Don't know what it's going to become 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.160 in the future, if anything, but that's a loss, and 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:32.000 they're moving their business operations to Wallut Street. But you know, 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:35.400 behind these scenes, I guess they're hearing rumors that there's 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.280 maybe some threats there saying, hey, we if we got 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.560 gun you know, people shooting each other on Fountain Square 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:44.000 across from our beautiful flagship restaurant on Fountain Square. And 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:46.480 now we've had the shooting the other we had what 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:49.080 two shootings in the last few days on Fountain Square, 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.960 like right in front of Rubies. That's not a place 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:53.960 where people are gonna feel safe coming to. Our clientele's 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:55.720 not gonna be safe. We're gonna have to we're gonna 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:59.040 have to move. Losing that would send I think a 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:02.280 tutle wave of problems for those who sit on council 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.240 and those who seek to be re elected or elected 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:06.720 might be a good thing for them. But I don't 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:09.720 know if that's true or not, Anna, but that that's 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:13.600 really really telling there. If we have flagship restaurants, if 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:16.560 we have the culinary name in Cincinnati going, we can't 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:18.360 be in Cincinnati. You lost. 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:24.560 So I can't comment on you know, the speaks of 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:26.840 landlords or any of that details. I know probably as 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:30.640 much as you reading in the press. But again, this 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:35.560 council and mayor and administration, we're truly taking action. You 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.560 heard yesterday from the slice chief and the mayor new 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:44.160 plans around Sountain Square, both from looking at transportation patterns 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.560 what we need to do to kind of spread out 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:51.279 the people and make sure that we have bet Are coverage, 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:55.320 also bringing in additional support from law enforcement. So that 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:57.240 is the work we're doing. I mean, I think what 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:00.120 was most shocking to me was the most recent an 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.040 incident and where it's the fact that we had four 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:02.840 officers there. 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.240 Yep, right, and. 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.599 That's that's just shocking behavior. I think we all just 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:09.960 have to name it that that is insane. 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:10.320 Right. 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.840 However, many years ago, knowing that four officers were a 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:15.800 matter of yards away from you would have been at 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:19.240 a turrent. So you know this, this is a new level, 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.839 and we are stepping up to the plate to provide 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:26.800 more resources, new resources, partnering with the governor, partnering with 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:29.880 the sheriff's office, doing all of that work to really 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:31.520 try to tackle what's happening. 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:35.320 But isn't that an indication Anna that it's too far gone? 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:37.039 I mean that, you know, it's not like everyone's gonna 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:40.440 pull up stakes. But you know, all this action now, okay, great, 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:44.839 but if the bad guys aren't obeying law enforcement, there's 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.000 a cop standing right there, I'm gonna shoot at you anyway. 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:50.440 All the adjectives, all the superlatives, all the patrols, all 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:53.279 the curfews. What you're saying is it hasn't done anything 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.960 to stop the violence. And that then tells me that 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:59.000 we moved that, that our leaders moved way too late 0:05:59.040 --> 0:05:59.400 on us. 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:02.680 You know, here, here's what I would say. It would 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:06.120 be really helpful if we had support from the state 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:09.159 in terms of laws, because there are too many guns 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:10.720 on our street. And you know, I'm going to talk 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:13.080 about this all day. It is too easy to get 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:17.360 firearms legally and too we can get them easily illegally 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.200 as well. And so it'll be really great if Ohio 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.880 had some stronger gun laws or we could actually go 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:26.440 after getting somebod climb off the street harder. And you 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:28.160 know that's part of the work of the Crime Gun 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:31.719 Intelligence Center, and we partner with the APS, with local 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.800 law enslorcement, the Ohio State controls helping us with us like, 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:36.520 there are too many guns, and I think we just 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.320 all need to acknowledge are too many guns on our streets. 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.120 And that is why I'm really passionate about we need 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.800 stronger laws at the state level, hopefully at the federal 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.560 level that actually empower us to go get the firearms 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:48.840 pop of the handle games with people. 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:50.440 Yeah, I let me push back on that. A couple 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:53.320 of points. Number one would be we have federal laws. 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.880 The law says if you are a felon and you 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.400 you're carrying a gun, you've now escalated that you go 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.280 to prison. And yet we have judges, largely progressive judges 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:03.720 that see juveniles, that see people go, oh, you got 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:05.080 a gun. You're not supposed to have a gun. You 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:07.680 cut your ankle, bonder, Yeah, you're good, go ahead, It's fine, 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:09.640 we'll catch it a later date. I mean, weep. You 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:11.680 keep calling for tougher laws, but you're not enforcing the 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:15.080 laws in the books. Why aren't we getting tougher with 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.360 people who are who end up getting jammed up with 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.120 a gun and they right out of a felony. That's 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.640 that's called having a gun to disability. And I'm sorry, 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:24.800 but we have judges in Cincinnati that allow that. 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.880 Hey, our judges are making sure that laws are performed 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:30.200 and executed. 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.400 And are they're not, otherwise they wouldn't have this. 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:37.080 Hey, agree to disagree on this one, right, That's that's fair. 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.840 But you know, at the end of the day, I 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.160 think we have too many guns. I support the work 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:46.720 of our Crime Intelligence Center going after those because it is. 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.760 It was shocking to me to watch the video in 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:52.520 the Prep Sumping District with the police chief and how 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.360 casually someone was able to just pull gun out, shoot 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:58.640 shoot at people and walk away. Right, That's that's horrifict 0:07:58.680 --> 0:07:59.480 We can all right. 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:01.680 Because they know there's no consequences if I do that. 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.040 Well, I mean, officers are on the scene pretty pretty quickly, right, 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.720 So like it now, it's a matter of putting together 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:10.920 the case and going through with that and that again, 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:12.840 that is where we have to do off into the 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:16.720 job from the city perspective of putting together strong cases 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.440 so our judges have all the information. And frankly, we're 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:23.320 doing work to working with the judicial system on improving 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.080 our technology in the courtrooms making sure that information is 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.680 more readily available that we had that we were able 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.400 to provide all that case information. So here's the I'm 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:34.520 the only only to my family who's not a lawyer. 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.760 My brother is actually a prosecutor in the Federal Office 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:41.160 and VC. But you know, these lawyers, you know, haveing 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.679 making sure the prosecutors have all the information that day 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:45.719 in front of them with technology, that is a big 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.199 challenge right now. So we are working the city puts 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:50.360 dollars together and there's a whole kind of task force 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:53.719 with our judges where we're making sure that we're empowering 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:56.720 our judges and our prosecutors and our officers with all 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:58.880 the technologies to make sure all that information is at 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:01.360 their fingertips. Decisions are being made off the. 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.200 Court, but the problem is they're not. And you know, 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:05.559 I don't think gun laws may do something in the future, 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.559 probably not because I think the other element of two 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:12.040 analby is how are the people, especially juveniles, getting guns 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:13.800 so well they're breaking into cars? Well, why are people 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.640 live in guns and cars? Is because I think a 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:18.320 couple of things. Number one would be there's a lot 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.280 of places we are not allowed to carry by law, 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.199 and so I say, hey, I don't feel safe in Cincinnati. 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.200 If I come downtown, I'm gonna come with a gun, 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:27.400 come heavy and okay. If I got to go somewhere 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:30.200 to leave in my car, I think that's just a 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.080 It's like a self fulfilling prophecy. The more unsafe people feel, 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:34.800 the more they feel they need to arm themselves. They 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:36.360 can't bring it in, so they're leaving the car, which 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:38.439 encourages people to break into cars and steal guns. 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.040 You have talked about secure firearm storage in cars of force, 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:43.640 So I know, no, this is a place where we 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.480 can both agree in terms of making sure that you know, 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.559 if a gun, if you're bringing it downtown, that's pure legal, right, 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:50.560 let's have it locked up. 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:50.800 Right. 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:54.079 So we're doing a couple of things. One, we're increasing 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:57.520 our requirements when it comes to parking garages and parking 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:01.679 lots on what's needed in terms of better lighting, can landscaping, security, 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.079 and then we're also going to have PtD go out 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:07.000 and provide a feeding system for all those garages. So 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:10.280 you as a responsible citizens driving downtown to say, oh, 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:13.040 because of an ADC or D, whatever the scale is, 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.680 this is a safe place that's meeting the security requirements. 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.079 This isn't right, So caret and a stick approach. But 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:20.280 in addition to that, I've been working with CPD and 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:24.079 we've started handing out gun space for cars. At the 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:27.560 last few home bangals games, that's the home most opener. 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.320 We had over seventy seven people come up and grab 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:33.040 a gun law, and so that's the work I'm trying. 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:33.040 To do it. 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:36.280 As a gun owner myself, I like, okay, I think 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:38.120 you know, I hate more burden on people like myself 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:41.160 because the overwhelming majority, almost all the gunners are responsible people. 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:42.840 You know, talk about the guns on the streets and 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.760 it's getting out there because responsible people are tired of 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:49.720 de policing and you know, the lax enforcement of our laws. 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:51.600 I got all these laws that I have to buy 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:55.880 buy as a Second Amendment rights holder, but and it 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:57.840 doesn't feel like the criminal element cares about that they're 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.680 going to rob my stuff. It's that's the frustration. But 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:02.440 I agree. I think that if you're responsible gun, there's 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.600 gotta be something relative to making sure your gun when 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:06.840 it's stored safely, not just in a you know, a 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.520 console or a glove box or into the seat or 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.520 see something along those lines. It has to be in 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:13.800 a physical safe that that should be by rule. She's 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:16.240 council member and I'll be sits on law in public safety, 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:20.200 hearing it from citizens yesterday in a meeting, people saying 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.280 what am I going to tell prospective tenants if they 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:23.840 ask if it are going to be safe downtown and 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:26.840 people moving out, and it is unraveling when you see 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:30.240 gunfire and consecutive and what three over the course of 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:33.040 a weekend. Basically we had two shootouts the other one 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.160 of the other night where someone who was sitting at 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:36.880 City Bird and someone pulls out a gun, fires a 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:39.200 couple of shots in the window. Still haven't caught the 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:41.880 guy yet, And I think we need to make examples 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.559 of these people. I really really do on that. One 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:48.559 of the problems is, as I understand it, as you 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:50.679 understand it too, isn't it like people getting off at 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.319 the metro station of Government Square, and then then that's 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:54.080 where the beats start. 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.560 So I think it's lots of you know, people getting 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.920 off there and more of just how do we spread 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:06.120 out kind of the mass of people, if that makes sense. Right, 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:08.520 We have a lot of people coming in at once. 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:12.120 So that's part of the what the mayor is working 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.960 with sorta on is, hey, how do we kind of 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.480 distribute these bus routes a little bit more again, makes 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:21.480 it easier for us to have you know, coverage when 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:24.760 it comes to officers and all of that. So you know, 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.160 I'm not I just want to be really clear, there 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:29.280 is no part of this so the saying that people 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.000 use our wonderful public transportation or criminals, that's not what 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:34.400 we're saying. But we're trying to use some place based 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:37.360 problem solving here, right, And if we're seeing, you know, 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:40.520 kind of a cluster of issues happening around one space, 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.839 how can we spread out the people the bodies right 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:47.079 to maybe just use some of the conflict because what 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.600 I'm under how I understand it is some of these 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.680 are starting as personal talk with right, Like people are 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:56.199 getting into fights and unfortunately they're armed and that's vacillating. 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:58.720 That's that's what the last two we're talking about worst, 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.200 you know, just stupid street beefs between people who knew 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:01.560 each other. 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.439 Yeah, I mean, and that's where some of the reflections 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.240 I've been doing frankly, over the past day and a half, 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:11.000 it's been it's just been around, how do we, you know, 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:15.840 teach conflict resolution. I know that sounds maybe very but 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:20.440 you know, how do we help people, even starting in 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:22.440 our schools, And these are conversations I've had with our 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.400 school boards start kind of teaching conflict drives. We have 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:28.160 a young age, so people can learn how that's turned 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:31.320 down the temperature, sure, because it's just it's just you know, 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:32.320 too easy. 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:34.319 Well yeah, that's true of all of us. But that 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:37.240 doesn't fix the now we have. You know, we have 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:40.000 adults acting like toddlers and they have guns, and that's 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:43.000 the unfortunate part. My point is, and maybe something that 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.680 should be explored is I'll be honest with you, I 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:47.720 and when I talk to cops and others saying, you know, Metro, 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.000 it's like this funnel and not you're certainly not everyone 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.040 who's ride the Metro that most people are just trying 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:54.880 to get from point A to point being live their lives. 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.280 But you've got criminal elements on there kind of looking 0:13:57.320 --> 0:14:00.000 for trouble. We've heard horror stories about metrobus drivers getting 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.400 shot and everything else. And it largely centers around Metro 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:06.120 the Government Square station, and it's such a critical area 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:09.679 to our infrastructure that's now spilling over to Fountain Square itself. 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:12.720 You know, we have the Fort Washington away underground garage. 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:14.560 It's not going used. And I know the cry was, 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:16.800 well it's too far from Fountain Square. You know what 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:20.280 you need. I'm sorry, But if for me I've closed 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:22.640 that Government Square metro station, I'd make it a stop. 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.080 I'd move everything to Fort Washington a way. You have 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.520 an entrance and egress points. You can monitor that with cameras, 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:32.120 you could have gunspotder technology, face technology. You have a 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:34.640 confined area that you can easily police and shut it 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:36.800 down if you have to, and you can control who's 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.200 coming in and coming out. More importantly, keep an eye 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:41.520 on people and lock it down if you have to. 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:43.720 To get a bad guy with a gun and then run, 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:45.840 I don't know, run a shuttle or a bus that 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:48.200 looks like a trolley to Fountain Square to get people there. 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:50.480 It just seems to me like you got to get 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.120 that Metro station at Government Square is a problem. I 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:54.600 think we got to shut that down and move it. 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:59.520 I think everything worth discussing for now. It's the kind 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.760 of changing up the route to disperse that kind of 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.400 cluster Government Square. So you know, that is a step 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.360 in the right direction. Again, I want to make sure 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:11.560 that in this conversation we're not dehumanizing people run the 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:13.920 ride the bus because you know, personally, I feel very 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:17.400 passionately that we have a working public transit and infrastructure 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:19.400 because it's important right how most people are just getting 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:21.480 to their jobs, and it's also how in some of 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.120 our kids are getting to schools, people getting to you 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:24.920 know whatever fun. 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.600 Well, they don't deserve all this. That's the point. You're 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:31.160 trying to protect them. We're trying to protect them by saying, hey, listen, 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:34.200 we'll just run a We'll run a shuttle to Fountain 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.400 Square for those people got another bus to Fountain Square. 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:37.400 It doesn't seem that hard. 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:42.320 Yeah, again, I'm open to all these conversations with Metro. 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:44.840 You know, they they are the experts on their bus routes. 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:47.440 But for now that we are working collaboratively with them 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.560 on this kind of first step to this. First those 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:52.000 bus routes try to spread out the crowds to your 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.520 point of like what we have too many people kind 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.760 of concentrate on one spot and just one of those 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:58.800 people has to be up to no goods to cause 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.880 safe issues for everyone. And I think that also comes 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.720 with frankly, you know, for officers who are down there. 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.480 You heard from the Chief yesterday talking through art Wet 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:09.240 we got to be alert, right, We've got to have 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.760 our eyes out open for what could be happening. And 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.680 that's to where you know, we have community advocates who 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:18.800 are down there and you know, learning simple kind of 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.760 this is what a body language triggers of like oh 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.040 that could be turning into a fight. Being much more 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.320 aware and picking up on that faster. And that's what 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:29.080 I heard from the chief right yesterday and her remarks 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.680 with the press conference is Okay, we a CPD are 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:33.400 going to step up here. We're going to be watching 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:35.720 out for that a lot more, and you know, again 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.920 using our complex resition be escalation skills to make sure 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:44.000 those personal fights are not turning into gunfire. That's ultimately where. 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:44.080 We got it. 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:45.800 I'll be honest with you. I mean, we can teach 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:48.160 it in the schools and all that stuff, but I'm sorry, 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:50.600 there's a there's a percentage of the population that are 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:53.240 freaking animals. What we saw yes to what we we're 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:57.720 talking about. He is animalistic, predatory, sociopathic behavior. There's people 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:59.840 out there that are worth saving, but there's some that aren't, 0:16:59.880 --> 0:17:01.360 and we've got to come to terms of that and 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:03.920 segregate them for society because all this, we've got to 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:06.680 change them and thick that might happen in another generation 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:08.680 or two maybe, but probably not. But we've got to 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:10.760 addressed to here and now. The people that are shooting 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.040 on Fountain Square. I'man a guest that the guy who 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:15.520 fired the shots at City Bird probably shouldn't had that 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:17.800 gun in the first place, and I would I question 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:20.480 the need for more laws if we don't take those 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.800 people off the streets the minute they use a gun 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:24.000 and commission of a crime. 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:29.360 You and I have no disagreement on people who shouldn't 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.320 have guns. It should and shouldn't have guns, right If 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:34.679 someone's going to be using a firearm that lately for 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:37.360 criminal activity, should not have a gun. And that's again 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.200 why I go back to it would be really great 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:42.160 if we actually had background check on every single gun 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:45.119 sale beyond just the certified sellers, but you know Facebook, 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:48.159 gun sales, things out of people's trunks all that, so 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:51.480 we could actually be able to have, you know, a 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:53.720 way to enforce, hey, you are a bad guy. You 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:57.080 should not have a gun. Right And then in terms 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.840 of they hear now, that is why we are pulling 0:17:59.880 --> 0:18:02.919 out all the stops, in terms of our local CPD 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:07.560 working on patrol, bringing reinforcements from Ohio State Patrol right 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:10.360 to really be out there in the community, watching out 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:13.400 for these instances and hopefully intervening before they accalate. 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:15.880 Let me and I've got just a second here, and 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:18.240 I appreciate it. Back on that in the Highway patrol, 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.560 that's a really good point is from what we heard 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:22.720 is is you know, the governor reached out some time 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:25.480 ago and we're still waiting for Okay, I guess the 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.240 Highway Patrol is going to come in and now we 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:29.000 have all right, we had another shooting and so now 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:32.080 we have SWAT officers. It looks like parts of Gaza 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:35.760 now on Fountain Square and this. I don't know. It 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:38.000 seems like, okay, now we're doing that and the optics 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:40.800 that are tough, But why why don't we if we 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:42.879 just brought troopers into enforced the highways, we could have 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.000 regular cops, more of them on the street. Why are 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:47.200 we fighting against the set? Why are we leaning into 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:49.920 the state and having more officers more troopers come in 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:51.040 so we. 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:53.399 Do have the troopers coming in helping. I'm going to 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:54.840 go back to the crime done. 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:57.160 There's like two days a month or something stupid like that. 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:58.119 That's what's that going to do? 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:03.879 Helps of our capacity right when we have big busts. 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:05.879 I don't know a better technical term than that of 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:08.119 you know, these big investigations to take a lot of 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:10.719 man so having support, but that does free up our 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:14.720 CPD local officers to be out patrolling our neighborhoods. And frankly, 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:16.480 I'm gonna be honest when it comes to kind of 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:19.399 patrolling in our neighborhoods, I still stand by. You know, 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:22.439 sometimes Believe has amazing training when it comes to collaborative agreement, 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:25.920 comes to the escalation. They have relationships with our residence too, 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:28.400 and that is very very important because having that quest 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:31.080 of law enforcement makes a difference when you're interacting in 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:33.320 the neighborhoods. So I stand by all of that, But 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:36.000 when it comes to these bigger operations, yeah, let's bring in, 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:38.800 bring in support and having you know, swat out take 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:42.080 control supporting that these like hot spots right now. 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:45.119 Sure, but again it took too long. I mean, that 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:46.840 was something was offered a couple of months ago after 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:49.960 you know, after the brawl and went July, and here 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:52.240 it is, we're almost in the November at this point, 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:54.080 and now we're like, okay, now they're fre We're gonna 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:56.439 get them a couple days. It just it just seems 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:58.840 like we're I don't know, fighting against law enforcement. Then 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:00.680 we just turn around, puts a lot of on the street. 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.359 How any different is that than having National Guardsmen out there? 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:04.080 They look the same. 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:09.440 Well, National guardsmen are not trained in our collaborative agreement. 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:11.639 They're not they don't know our people. And frankly, that 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:14.920 the scenes I've seen coming out of Chicago with Ice. 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:17.760 So I'm not I'm not saying I have the National 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:19.600 Guarden saying it. That's what it looks like. It's the same. 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:22.200 What's the difference between local squat offers and that as 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:24.800 far in the court of public opinion. And yeah, I 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.000 get the training element, but I think people see that 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:30.560 you see paramilitary troopers that are either squat or now 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:33.359 it doesn't matter. You've got guys in tactical gears standing 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:35.880 on that Fountain Square to intimidate the bad guys. It's 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:36.480 the same look. 0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:41.760 I you know, for me, I will say, I don't 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:43.239 think living in a police state and this is why 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:44.760 I think I'm hearing from me, living in a police 0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:48.120 state is in our perfect version of safety. And I agree, right, 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:51.040 but to your point, like there's a crisis right now 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:53.600 and we're doing everything we can, and if you know, 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:56.439 four cops standing on Fountain Square wasn't enough, and you 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:59.520 know what's the next step. So it's really a balance here, right, 0:20:59.880 --> 0:21:02.240 I mean, I agree, I don't think having a police 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:05.720 date is is where we want to be. But if 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:08.560 we are, you know, have so many guns in the street, 0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:12.200 and we got to bring in help to de escalate 0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:14.280 and keep those guns, you know, out of the wrong hands. 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:17.119 We're going to do it right now because again, like 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:20.359 we're digging this all very seriously, and I want to 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:22.320 follow up, go back to where you started the conversation 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:25.000 in terms of what we heard from public facety public 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:29.040 commenters yesterday, following up immediately, in fact, i'd already been 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:30.760 my opposite, had already been in contact with one of 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:34.119 the gentlemen and got you know, an email after immediately. 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:38.159 And we're working quickly here, and I go back to 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:42.080 problem solving and how do we address these issues at 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:43.480 the spot right We heard. 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:46.760 Some fo we needed to and I had to touch off, 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:48.320 but I got to get going way or away over 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:51.280 like she's conc member and I'll be law in public safety. 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:52.960 I know we just addressed a lot there, but I 0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:56.760 appreciate your thoughtful consideration and conversation and the back and forth. 0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:58.960 It was really good. Hopefully people listen to this and 0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:01.399 and and the right people listen to this so we 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:03.840 get some answered soon because this date, I'll agree with 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:06.280 the mayor. It's intolerable for sure. Hey, all the best. 0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:08.040 Good luck on the campaign. I know you're doing that 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:10.439 as well, seeking the reelection and council. Anna. Thanks for 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:12.560 coming on the show. Be well, good luck, appreciate it. 0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:13.359 Thanks to take care. 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:14.639 We got to get the news run the lake. We'll 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:16.560 get your reaction to this, so more gun laws will 0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:18.840 solve this. Well, then let's talk about that coming up 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:23.760 next on seven hundred W them Scott's Loan here, seven 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:27.360 hundred WL I was gonna have time to get to 0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:30.600 play some of the Terry Thigi audio. It's Cincinnati's Grandma, 0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:35.520 Terry Thigi, and she can tell there's frustration with her too. 0:22:35.560 --> 0:22:38.119 And the press conference after press conference, Scott's Loan here, 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:41.880 seven hundred WLW last half Ari Ana Albeyond council member, 0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:44.720 all be law in public safety. She thought through the testimony, 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:46.520 people saying, look, what am I going to tell my 0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:49.040 tenants people want to rent from me? I own property. 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:51.919 I'm a business owner, and I need bodies to move downtown. 0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:54.159 I don't need bodies moving away from downtown. What do 0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:56.960 I tell tenants to say? Ask the question am I 0:22:57.080 --> 0:22:59.040 going to be safe? Will I be safe? I don't 0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:03.280 have an answer for that, or people going listen, I tried. 0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:05.760 I mean, I bought into Cincinnati and the urban thing, 0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:07.399 and I just I can't do it anymore. It's just 0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:10.080 the dangers all over the place. And are people say, well, 0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:12.840 statistically it's fine, Well, you don't live in statistics, do you? 0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:16.200 And That's why another reason I hate numbers, I hate 0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:23.720 the statistics it is because of that. It's like, well, yeah, 0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:26.080 I don't live in statistics, man, I know what I see. 0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:28.520 Same thing when you watch a football game, Mberrow and 0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:31.399 Joe Flack will make a completion that had a one 0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:33.879 point two percent chance of being successful. Okay, then why 0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:37.399 would you throw that ball? So the numbers are always 0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:39.520 what they are, right, And it's perception. And I'm sorry 0:23:39.600 --> 0:23:42.280 when I see people shooting across Fountain Square at each other. 0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:46.560 When I see some guy recognizing someoney at a beef 0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:49.080 with and he settles beef by pulling out a gun 0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:53.639 and shooting rounds through cityberg Chicken on Fountain Square and 0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:56.240 then runs away like it's just me and him. It's 0:23:57.000 --> 0:24:00.800 our world. You know, the time for programs and the 0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:03.600 time for feel goods. And I'm sorry that's over. You 0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:05.399 got at some point, you got split wigs. That's what 0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:08.320 this is. And Fiji said yesterday and it's about time 0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:11.679 that what they're gonna do is restore broken windows policing, 0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:14.159 which basically means we're going after the little stuff. We 0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:16.680 see you jaywalking, we see you smoking a joint, we 0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:18.800 see you doing something that technically is we're gonna make 0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:21.680 contact with you. Screw Iris rallying her feels the hell 0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:24.760 with her, this is what we're gonna do. And then 0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:26.959 how about this other element instead of and she proposed 0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:28.480 that we need more gun laws. We do not need 0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:32.639 more gun laws. We don't need more laws restricting the Again, 0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:36.760 most Americans ninety nine percent plus are completely law abiding 0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:41.080 and use their guns responsibly. And I get it. We've 0:24:41.119 --> 0:24:43.320 got a lot of guns out there because every time 0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:45.600 we propose more gun laws, people buy more guns. And 0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:48.440 the same thing happens in Cincinnati. Okay, well, why do 0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:49.680 we have so many guns on the street. We have 0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:52.040 so many guns on the street because when people go 0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:55.480 downtown who have to liver work there, they're scared because 0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:57.840 of stuff like this. Because you've ignored the problem for 0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:02.399 so long, May and largely progressives and Democrats. You've forgotten 0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:04.240 and you know all the programs and the money, we're 0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:05.840 fun and we're doing well. We can't. We can't have 0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:08.840 ostracized kids. And they're young kids and they deserve a chance. 0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:10.440 I'm sorry, when you pick up a gun, your chances 0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:13.760 are over. Enough of this nonsense, and because of all 0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:16.040 this death and destroy and the threat of somebody like 0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:19.000 Ruby's pulling out of downtown. Can you imagine and people 0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:21.520 moving out of downtown And now all of a sudden's like, well, 0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:23.240 you know all these feel good things that we thought 0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:26.240 were good in theory in reality like that, it doesn't work. 0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:29.480 So now we got to split wigs. Good. We should 0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:32.560 be doing that. We should be doing that. But the 0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:35.040 idea that we have more gun laws, well, okay, great, 0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:36.800 we have gun laws, and people are coming downtown because 0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:39.160 they're scared they have guns, and their signs up saying 0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:41.320 don't bring your gun anywhere, So I leave at my car, 0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:43.639 and then people are breaking into cars because they know 0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:46.200 that's where the guns are. It's a self fulfilling prophecy. 0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:49.520 How do you end that thing? You start making examples 0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:52.120 of the people are committing gun crimes. When somebody cuts 0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:54.120 an ankle monitor off, You don't wait a month, two weeks, 0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:55.440 a year later and go, well we'll get you, and 0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:58.000 you get you. Well maybe they'll turn themselves in. You 0:25:58.160 --> 0:25:59.760 go and you get a task force and you bring 0:25:59.840 --> 0:26:04.680 them to justice. Like I said, how many times is it? 0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:07.239 This twenty four year old it's not his first time 0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:09.480 of the road. You guarantee it. You just don't wake 0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:10.760 up one day and pull out a gun and shoot 0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:13.040 at someone. They's got to have prior. There's no almost 0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:16.480 willing to bet the house that that guy is restricted 0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:19.000 from having a gun. He's under disability. I mean he 0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:21.560 had a prior felony at twenty four. He shouldn't have 0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:23.280 that gun. Well, we got to pass laws to make 0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:24.560 sure people like that. No, what we have to do 0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:25.920 is take people like that and go you go to 0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:28.480 prison for thirty years for that, like we used to. 0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:32.080 But then, oh, but you know society people are there's 0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:34.920 backlash and this is what happens when you don't do that. 0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:38.520 It's exactly what happens when you don't do that. And 0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:41.000 now you know they're throwing out how many more adjectives 0:26:41.160 --> 0:26:44.160 is aft to have? Pure hole going to use? Today's 0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:47.119 at the adjective it's like Sesame Street with Grover not 0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:53.160 The adjective of the day is intolerable. Yeah, okay, great, 0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:55.040 and tomorrow will be something else, a bond ball or 0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:59.960 you're gonna run out eventually. It's significant changes are coup 0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:02.760 after violence downtown? What are they doing? They're having swat 0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:06.240 in the Civil Disturbance Response Team, and okay, what we 0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:09.040 don't want is the National Guard here, and we don't 0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:11.119 want the State of Ohio here because it makes us 0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:14.560 look bad. What's the optics of having Thursday night football 0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:16.879 in Cincinnati downtown. They show that shot of Fountain Square 0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:21.240 and what you see are I'm sorry, paramilitary troops that 0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:23.959 are SWAT officers. There's a bit of a difference there. 0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:26.639 I get that, but I'm sorry someone the average person 0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:30.520 looks at someone an individual who's got tactical gear on, 0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:33.439 got a vest, you're all strapped down, you got your 0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:36.000 tactical helmet on, you got your visors, you're carrying a 0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:39.159 long gun. You're standing on Fountain Square. People see that 0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:41.080 and go paramilitary. They don't go, oh, that's just a 0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:44.080 SWAT officer versus a National guardsman versus. No, they're going 0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:48.360 to go Cincinnatie is dangerous AF That's what people think. 0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:50.719 But I'll talk about the fields and well, we'll use 0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:53.320 our swat officers. They're different, and it all looks the 0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:55.960 same to me. Baby. And you guys did this. You 0:27:56.119 --> 0:28:01.240 did this, AFTAB, the policies that you stand behind did this. 0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:06.480 Five three seven, The big one talk back iHeartRadio app 0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:09.200 and you can look at you can also drop that 0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:10.560 and if you're listening on the stream, you stream the 0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:13.320 show be the iHeart Radio app on that is a 0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:17.119 Harry on the show. Good morning, good morning. Uh you 0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.760 heard the words of council Member Anna. I'll be on 0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:22.879 this the shooting downtown. Ruby's may pull out at some 0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:25.639 point if this just kind of behavior continues. We have 0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:30.080 SWAT officers to me, look like National Guardsmen patrolling the 0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:32.919 center of our city. And yet I'm hearing about how 0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:35.119 we need more gun laws and we need more programs. 0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:37.600 Enough of the nonsense. You got to start splitting wigs, 0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:38.240 you know what I'm saying. 0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:43.440 Oh, most definitely. Yeah, I've listened to that conversation. I 0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:47.480 wanted to drive my car off a bridge. The judges 0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:52.640 don't profit. If the judges don't take care of getting 0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:57.239 people off the street when presented with the facts, then 0:28:57.320 --> 0:28:59.760 the number of guns are just going to continue to. 0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:01.960 Be where they are. There's a question to somebody, you. 0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:03.760 Put them in jail. 0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:04.960 That's a gun off the street. 0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:08.320 But I think, but I've had. 0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:09.920 A gun off the street. That's a person who's going 0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:11.600 to use the gun. And Commission of a crime off 0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:13.760 the street. And furthermore, if you have someone who has 0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:16.360 an ankle monitor, they caught off and we'll I'll just 0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:18.280 catch you later. How many more people are going to 0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:21.320 needlessly become victims of crime, and often violent crime and 0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:25.480 often homicide if we continue that behavior. We don't need laws. 0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:27.440 We need mortal laws. We needed to damn enforce the 0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:28.400 laws that we already have. 0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:34.200 Oh, there's no question. And I wonder if that particular 0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:40.520 council person has ever stood at Government Square at four 0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:44.080 o'clock in the afternoon and watched what goes on there. 0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:48.520 Per thing about people are taking the buses and getting 0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:50.800 them off the Government Square primarily to go to work. 0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:57.760 It's a bunch of nonsense. Okay, I worked downtown. That's 0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:00.560 not what goes on on Government Square. Yes, there are 0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:02.320 people that go there to use the buses to go 0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:05.200 to work, correct, But there's a whole bunch of other 0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:07.280 people that are just there. 0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:09.720 Yep, yeah, there are, And you know it does it's 0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:11.800 not all the people. And you know, we gotta be 0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:13.520 careful how you just shut it down because you have 0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:16.200 school kids, you know, using metro, you have people who 0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:18.800 are commuting using metro, and then of course you have 0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:20.920 people up to no good using Metro. And I just 0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:24.400 don't understand why do we have to have that bus 0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:27.040 station at Government Square, Because they the people that are 0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:29.400 causing trouble come out and then they shoot at each other. 0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:31.840 They cause problems. There's violence all the time around that 0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:34.560 Metro stop. It happens all the Why not move the 0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:37.080 damn thing to the Fort Washington Way Garage. It's underground 0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:39.120 first of all, so you stay dry, but you also 0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:41.960 have you can also monitor the entrance and exits, the 0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:45.800 ingress and egress points. And then if somebody does something 0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:47.920 stupid in there, you spot somebody, you could put cameras 0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:51.360 up there to have technology that spots the gun inside 0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:54.200 your clothing. You can have offices there intercepting people. Then 0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:55.720 if you have to lock it down, you've got to 0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:57.920 point in point B to do that, and that's going 0:30:57.960 --> 0:30:59.960 to deter that crime. And if people have to commute 0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.760 to Fountain Square, why not run some shuttles that look 0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:05.680 like street cars and run bus lines to Fountain Square 0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:07.640 to get the commuters there. It seems to me that's 0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:09.800 where we need to move it as away from from 0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:11.960 Fountain Square and move it to an area that could 0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:12.719 be better monitored. 0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:18.840 Seloy, You're using logic, and logic doesn't enter into the 0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:23.000 conversation when you're dealing with politicians. All you did is 0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:30.240 word salad with ideas, but no gumption to move on 0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:31.320 these ideas. 0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:34.920 That's the problem. It's also the fear of backlash from 0:31:34.960 --> 0:31:38.680 other progressives that say you're just causing more problems and 0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:41.040 you're ostracizing people and you're labeling them. It's more of 0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.880 the iris rally stuff. Harry, thanks the call to Brian 0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:45.960 in Mount Auburn on the Scott Sloan share a show 0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:47.600 seven under WW Brian High. 0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:49.480 Hey Scott, how you doing. 0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:51.800 I'm doing well. We got well. 0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:55.400 We lived down Pound for twelve years and back in 0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:58.520 March we moved to Mount Auburn and a big part 0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:01.160 of that was what was happening downtown. I mean, we 0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:04.240 still walk to downtown, we still go support the places 0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:06.880 we always have, but at night, we just wanted to 0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:09.440 feel safe when walked in the dog or something like that. 0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:11.360 And listening to the. 0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.680 Council memory had on when you brought up the fact 0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:18.080 that we're not enforcing the judges aren't enforcing. 0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:20.840 The laws that are play that's a huge part of it. 0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:22.960 We have family and that are CPD. 0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:30.520 Yeah, hey, yeah, Brian, Brian, apologize, I'm losing your sales 0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:32.360 fading out there, but I get the crutch what you're saying. 0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:34.160 I appreciate listening to show and check it in this morning, 0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:39.560 and yeah, I hear about you know, hey, we need 0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:42.320 to try to reform people and get them at a 0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:45.160 younger Okay, great, but that's that's way down the line. 0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:48.320 You're talking about what five, six, seven, eight year olds. 0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:50.800 I'm talking about twenty four year olds going shooting rounds 0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:54.160 to the window at City Bird. I mean, it's a 0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:56.360 little late for the programs in the fields. Okay, let's 0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:57.840 put that in stel. I'm one hundred percent with you. 0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:00.680 But when people like that, and I almost willing to 0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:02.560 bet that that twenty four year old gut in the 0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:06.000 white T shirt, that that guy has had priors, that 0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:08.080 they know who that is, that he's going to come 0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:10.240 back and he's going to have a jacket. I don't 0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:11.680 know how thick it is, but there's gonna be something 0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:12.760 in that jacket. It's going to show you that he 0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:15.680 shouldn't have a gun in the first place. So I'm sorry, 0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:17.640 we need more laws and tougher gun laws. What is 0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:19.760 that going to do for people who simply don't care 0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:21.880 that they're going to shoot someone they had a beef 0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:24.360 with in the in broad daylight. I mean, we had 0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:28.280 a gunfight across Fountain Square to a guy in a 0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:29.800 car and guy in Founain Square just shooting at the 0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:33.280 guy in the car during rush hour. But how many 0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:35.280 laws did you break right there? Do you think they cared? 0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:38.000 They don't. And that's what we just need more tougher laws. 0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:40.320 And we got to do something about all these guys. Now, 0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:42.480 we got to do something about the a holes that 0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:44.720 are ruined for ninety nine point nine percent of the 0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:47.960 rest of the population. Target them quick, screw their feelings 0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:49.800 and lock them up. I don't care how old they are, 0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:53.720 Get them the hell off the street. Thanks for the call. 0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:57.080 We'll switch it up. We'll get to a news update 0:33:57.120 --> 0:34:00.400 here in just seconds and then, uh, health care is 0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:02.840 in crisis right now. One of my favorite topics to 0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:05.920 talk about, because we're seeing this government shutdown on day fifteen, 0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:08.560 and there's a solution for this, and because not shutting down, 0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:12.320 the government's actually legislators doing their jobs, and that is 0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:16.359 fixing healthcare in Democrats and Republicans both the blind because 0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:19.040 Democrats right now are shutting this down because when we 0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:21.719 want more subsidy, and subsidy just means something costs too much. 0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:25.279 And Republicans don't have a plan at all to fix 0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:28.920 health care. How about you do this? How about instead 0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:30.600 of giving money away and ignoring it, why do you 0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:33.440 get together and figure out why our healthcare costs so 0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:35.000 much and how we get so little out of it? 0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:38.120 Maybe some answers just ahead with an actual physician who 0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:39.839 sees this first hand. He's next in the show seven 0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:41.160 hundred WWT Cincinnata. 0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:41.880 We want to. 0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:47.320 Scott flown back on seven hundred WLW. As the government 0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:51.359 shut down continues over healthcare subsidies, it illustrates just how 0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:55.520 broken our system is, and not yet uniformly broken, not 0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:58.520 beyond repair. I mean, let's face, it's still an American 0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:02.080 any thing's perspective. You know, people still get excellent care, 0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:04.960 People still come here from other countries to get medical care. 0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:09.040 Medical innovation thrives in America. Way times are shorter than 0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:11.560 in single pair systems. But I'm an less face at 0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:15.160 the cost the access the people who are left in 0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:18.080 and excluded from it. That's really the problem with striving 0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:22.760 things in America, and there's consequences for our broken healthcare 0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:24.600 system what it means for ordinary families on that is 0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:27.800 doctor Peter Cowie. He's a cardiologist and public health expert 0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:30.200 and joins the show now to discuss on seven hundred 0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:33.279 WLW Doctor Kylie. Welcome, How are you, Scott? 0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:37.440 Thanks for having me and I appreciate the invitation. 0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:40.640 Yeah, and I think this is extremely lebant now that 0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:43.600 we fight over healthcare subsidies and you know, you know, 0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:45.560 there are a number of Americans that are dependent upon 0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:48.600 that and working people who are working multiple jobs in 0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:52.480 order to try and survive today, and they need healthcare. 0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:55.480 It's not provided by their employer, and so ACA fills 0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:57.560 that void. They get high scores for that. But you know, 0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:00.920 to act like somehow it makes it a affordable it doesn't. 0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:04.399 Because the tremendous amount of subsidy that's at stake here. 0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:08.080 You continue to subsidize things, it distorts what the costs 0:36:08.160 --> 0:36:11.160 really are. And it really it just glosses over a 0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:15.120 broken system in that regard, doesn't it absolutely? 0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:19.040 You know, we have two populations that are at risk here. 0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:24.040 One is obviously the uninsured, but there's a gigantic proportion 0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:27.719 of our population who are underinsured, so they have to 0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:31.160 pay large deductibles, they have to pay a lot of 0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:36.279 out of pocket expenses when they seek medical care. Those 0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:38.160 are the people who are really at risk here, and 0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:41.480 of course, with the reduction in the subsidies, their premiums 0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:43.279 look like they're going to go through the roof. 0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:48.239 Yeah, and we have lawmakers breaking away. I mean, Taylor 0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:51.160 Green from Georgia, you should saying, lo, listen. You know 0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:54.400 I've got family members that rely on subsidies on the 0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:56.800 Affordable Care Act in order to provide they're working a 0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:58.440 few jobs. I have family members that are like that 0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:00.879 right now. You know this is a US against them 0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:02.840 and we must you know, it's because it's Obamacare. It 0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:07.000 must be destroyed. It's propping up or broken in defunct system, 0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:10.000 and something needs to be done because the future is 0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:11.960 not looking bright. And you're right about that, in failure 0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:14.839 to treat what this really means for ordinary families as 0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:17.920 things continue the way they are. The broad picture on this, though, 0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:20.840 doctor Cowie is Here's what I don't understand, right, is 0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:24.239 that we have a not a good system was is 0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:27.120 what Medicare and Medicaid and the Affordable character and Obamacare 0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:29.520 and things are being propped up and subsidized, and it's 0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:31.719 ugly and it doesn't work. The other side of it, 0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:34.279 it's I don't see many ideas come out of the 0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:37.320 Republicans though, when it comes to a better solution for this, 0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:40.200 other than well, you know, it's socialized medicine, and we 0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:42.880 can't have that. What's the solution. 0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:48.520 Yeah, so you're entirely correct, we can't. We have a 0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:52.239 patchwork system right now. We have people trying to get 0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:56.239 help insurance in several different directions, and as we've already said, 0:37:56.239 --> 0:38:00.879 at very high costs. It really is going to come down, unfortunately, 0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:05.040 to a debate about whether we should as a country, 0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:10.640 as a civilization here, but just say everybody has to 0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:14.920 have affordable health care, and in whatever form that's going 0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:18.640 to take. You've heard the term Medicare for all. That 0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:21.520 may be a little bit large in terms of how 0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:24.080 much that would cost and whether it could be implemented. 0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:26.840 But the truth of the matter is that until we 0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:29.200 get to the point that we all agree that. 0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:30.719 This is not this is not. 0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:34.880 A luxury, this is a necessity that we need to 0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:37.920 provide affordable health care for all of our citizens. Until 0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:41.000 we grasp that concept, I'm afraid that the system is 0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:43.360 not going to get fixed in the alley. 0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:46.920 The overwriting story here regards of where you stand politically 0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:49.000 on this effect is it doesn't. I think everyone agrees 0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:51.759 in Republican Democrats know that it doesn't work the way 0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:54.440 it is, and it's something has to give because we 0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:57.160 spend what twice as much per person on healthcare as 0:38:57.200 --> 0:39:00.480 other countries who are wealthy and something like thirteen thous 0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:04.200 thirteen grand per person anually spend on healthcare, and a 0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:06.319 lot of those people don't use healthcare. We're talking about 0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:08.839 younger people who don't use healthcare as much as older 0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:11.959 people do, and we're not getting any better outcomes. Number 0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:17.160 one cause of personal bankruptcy medical bills. That's no future 0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:19.680 for a that's still a recipe for future success. 0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:23.239 I should say no, We're spending four and a half 0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:25.640 trillion dollars a year on healthcare in the United States, 0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:29.120 projected in twenty thirty five to be closer to nine 0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:32.520 trillion dollars on healthcare, and yet, as you just said, 0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:36.279 and I completely agree, we sit at the bottom in 0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:39.600 ranks of civilized countries in terms of almost any healthcare 0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:43.319 outcome measure you want to use, infant mortality, life expectancy. 0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:50.960 It is not a system that's working, but we've the resource. 0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:54.000 You're preamble by the way, I really appreciate it because 0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:54.920 you're right, you. 0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:55.359 Know you can. 0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:59.000 The glass isn't completely empty half empty. There's a lot 0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:02.240 of really good things about our healthcare system. The problem 0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:05.439 is access. The problem is allowing people to get into 0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:07.880 the system so that they can take advantage of this 0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:10.759 wonderful technology and innovation that we have here. 0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:15.120 Yeah, we saw the murder of the CEO of United Healthcare, 0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:18.640 and the reaction that I saw from a number of 0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:21.480 people is sickening that we're celebrating the death of a 0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:23.520 CEO of a company like he is the one driving 0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:27.080 this problem people. And I get it, you know, it's 0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:29.600 a metaphor for the system that's broken. But I don't 0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:33.640 understand celebrating someone's assassination basically is what happened here? What 0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:35.440 does that tell you about where're and how much of 0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:37.200 that has to do? And I get it, you know, 0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:40.759 insurance companies and insurers they stand the most to gain 0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:43.040 by well what the Democrats want. A lot of this 0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:46.120 money is going to go to Uh. If you subsidize anything, 0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:48.319 what happens is you just it just costs you more. 0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:50.800 College is a great example. You know, we subsidize college. 0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:53.600 Everyone has to go to college free college money grants 0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:56.120 tuition on the thing, and college is raised the Okay, 0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:58.040 we'll just going to charge more because more people have 0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:00.600 It's more money and it's artificial. You have to pay it. 0:41:00.640 --> 0:41:01.920 The same thing is true here, isn't it. 0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:06.640 Yeah? I agree entirely. What you saw with the reaction 0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:11.960 to that unfortunate event is how angry people are. I mean, 0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:14.040 I think what you saw was a reflection of their 0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:19.680 frustration and their anger with dealing with healthcare insurance companies 0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:22.919 that they really don't care about you. I mean, they've 0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:25.439 advertise on television how much they care, and the truth 0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:26.880 of the matter is they don't. I don't know if 0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:30.360 you saw recently, Scott, that a number of companies, including 0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:33.359 Medicare as well, are now going to go to pre 0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:37.480 certification done by artificial intelligence. Now think about that. Think 0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:40.320 about that your doctor orders a test and some computer 0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:42.239 is going to make a decision as to whether or 0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:44.880 not you can get that test done or not. I mean, 0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:48.200 that's the level of the absurdity that's going on with 0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:52.480 pre certification, for example, or denials of care. And in 0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:56.800 the books failure to treat their numerous examples of the 0:41:56.920 --> 0:42:01.560 stories about people who suffered really severe harm because of 0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:05.960 what happens with their medical insurance system as it currently exists. 0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:07.879 Oh, you don't have to look far to find those 0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:10.160 examples that you know, there's the things that you think 0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:11.719 are covered and they try to find a way not 0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:14.239 to cover it, or you know, it's almost a it's 0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:16.440 hard enough when your child, for example, as you know 0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:18.880 doctor Cowie is ill and you're trying to get them 0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:22.359 treatment for something like pediatric cancer, heart or some sort 0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:24.960 of serious illness like that, and then you're waging a 0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:27.000 war with the insurance company on top of that. It 0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:27.920 seems punitive. 0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:33.520 Yeah, And don't believe that the doctors aren't advocating. I mean, 0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:38.680 my office spends almost a full fte just dealing with 0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:43.160 insurance companies to get certification for procedures, and they put 0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:44.920 you on hold for a couple of hours and you 0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:46.840 have to wait there until they've decided to come on 0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:50.080 the phone, and then when they deny something, you have 0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:53.400 to go into a complicated system of trying to appeal 0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:55.920 to appeal the decision, and you have to go up 0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:59.240 in the ladder to what they call a peer review 0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:01.920 and talk to somebody who's who may not even be 0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:05.000 in your specialty to make a decision about coverage. So 0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:08.239 the system is rotten. Okay, it's a rotten system, and 0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:12.600 unfortunately we're we've adapted to where we tried to live 0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:14.319 with it. But it has to it has to change. 0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:16.640 Well we've heard that for a long time, though, what 0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:18.560 is going to be the change agent here? Is it 0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:21.719 going to be one extreme case? One extreme example? Kind 0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:24.080 of like you know, when we have a I don't 0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:26.520 know terror attack, everything changed after nine to eleven? Do 0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:29.439 we need like a medical nine to eleven to occur? 0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:30.480 And what would that look like? 0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:34.520 Yeah, yeah, you know, I wonder I wondered this myself. 0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:38.160 You know, I used to think that when the Sandy 0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:41.840 Hook shootings occurred and all those children were massacred, that 0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:44.440 that was going to stimulate change in the gun laws. 0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:45.320 And it didn't. 0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:46.040 Uh. 0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:49.320 It almost rised the level of absurdity of what you 0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:53.920 need to do to convince legislators. And that's where this 0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:54.600 has to come from. 0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:54.799 Right. 0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:57.480 We need we need major changes in our regulation of 0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:00.719 insurance companies and laws. What's a going to take to 0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:03.800 get these people off the dime and make them understand 0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:06.160 that we need to move forward and make the system better. 0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:09.840 Well, you know, I thought of the Sandy hook, but 0:44:10.440 --> 0:44:13.160 I don't know if I entirely agree that, because there 0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:14.640 you have Okay, you have a second Amendment. We have 0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:18.160 second membright to arm ourselves and that is a I 0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:20.760 don't think European countries understand the Second Amment, how powerful 0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:22.000 it is and what you can do. And we put 0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:24.960 a lot of laws in place to again keep guns 0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:27.680 on the hands of criminals, but also impacts most people 0:44:27.719 --> 0:44:30.080 don't guns, are law abiding citizens. And there's also a 0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:32.400 mental health component. Use a physician know that, And you 0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:34.960 know what about people who commit domestic violence acts? And 0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:37.160 well we have HIPPA but we can't disclose. And when 0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:39.680 you fill out your Federal Firearms form, you know you 0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:41.719 may have mental health issues, but you're not going to 0:44:41.760 --> 0:44:43.279 admit it, or maybe you don't know what you think 0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:45.239 the rest of the world's crazier and you're normal and 0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:47.480 you go, yeah, I'm perfectly fine, and then they go 0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:50.440 on a mass shooting. But there's none of that in 0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:52.400 play here. You don't have that. But when you have 0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:55.600 both sides agreeing right that the healthcare system is broken 0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:58.320 needs to be fixed, there's no hey, there's an amendment 0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:01.800 that says you're not entitled to healthcare, or there's no opposition. 0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:03.560 Is we all agree in the same thing, and yet 0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:06.200 we can't do anything to me. That's the most frustrating 0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:06.719 part about this. 0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:12.600 Yeah, I completely agree that they're not analogy necessarily analogous. However, 0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:17.080 think about this that the Republicans are denying the fact 0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:22.239 right now, they're denying the fact that cutting Medicaid and 0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:26.160 Medicare in the big beautiful Bill. They're denying the fact 0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:28.800 that that is going to cause a disaster in American 0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:32.200 medicine when everybody knows that it's going to Hospitals are 0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:35.960 already teeter tottering, right. I mean, the majority of hospitals 0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:39.480 in this country are operating in the red. Seventeen percent 0:45:39.560 --> 0:45:44.520 of hospitals last year either bankrupted or came close to bankruptcy. 0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:49.440 And these are royal hospitals, creating these healthcare deserts. I mean, 0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:52.719 if the Medicaid thing goes in to effect and the 0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:57.919 hospitals can no longer rely on that revenue, it could 0:45:58.040 --> 0:46:01.680 actually be a complete catastrophe. The Republicans need to know that, 0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:03.200 but they're they're in denial. 0:46:04.280 --> 0:46:06.879 Would that be the medical nine eleven we're talking about. 0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:11.600 I think absolutely, Scott, that could be the disaster that 0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:14.399 finally wakes people up. But the problem is that once 0:46:14.480 --> 0:46:18.240 it happens, yeah, getting reversing it that may take years, 0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:20.719 and people are going to die because of it. 0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:23.320 I have a family in rural Ohio. You listening you 0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:24.920 might have that as well, or like at least you 0:46:25.000 --> 0:46:27.520 know someone because you know, we're in a big city. 0:46:27.560 --> 0:46:30.200 We're in Cincinnati, Ohio. We have Columbus, we have Cleveland. 0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:33.400 We have mid sized cities like Dayton and Toledo and 0:46:33.480 --> 0:46:36.600 elsewhere in our listening area. But the bulk of all 0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:39.640 eighty eight counties are pretty rural in Ohio. And I've 0:46:39.680 --> 0:46:44.000 seen firsthand clinics and hospitals closed because they just don't 0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:46.320 have the people coming in and can't afford the staffing 0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:48.879 and everything, all the compliance and everything else in order 0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:51.719 to operate a modern hospital. There's just it's not profitable. 0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:54.239 And I know a lot of people cringe at the 0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:57.799 state taking over health care, but I don't know can 0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:00.359 this be? And we tell you, yeah, I look, well 0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:03.520 we know healthcare. We've seen hospitals clothed in rural areas. 0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:05.239 It's happening as we speak right now. It doesn't get 0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:09.120 to play simply because it's flyover country. People lose all 0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:11.319 their healthcare, they lose all hope. At that point, we're 0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:14.400 going to have people dying of things that were easily 0:47:14.480 --> 0:47:17.680 fixable just weeks and months and years ago as opposed 0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:20.440 to to right now. And at some point that it's 0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:22.040 going to come to a tipping point because you're right, 0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:24.080 these hospitals can't run profitable. But you look, listen to 0:47:24.120 --> 0:47:26.560 this can goa a minute. If every man wanted a child, 0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:29.320 we're spending like thirteen thousand dollars plus on average for 0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:32.759 our healthcare system. It's not that we're not spending money. 0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:33.759 Where's the money going? 0:47:34.560 --> 0:47:37.160 Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Well what's going into the pockets of 0:47:37.239 --> 0:47:40.600 people like in private equity for example, they're taken over 0:47:40.640 --> 0:47:43.000 a lot of these hospital systems and manage to bankrupt 0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:46.080 them and close them for profit. But if you recall 0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:47.920 in the book It's a Failure to Treat, there's a 0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:51.919 story about a baby and a parents who were trying 0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:54.239 to get their baby to a hospital in a rural 0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:57.560 early This is an affluent couple. This isn't just about 0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:01.319 this isn't just about indigen people. This is everybody trying 0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:03.360 to get the baby to a hospital. And when they 0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:06.120 pull up to the emergency room, the hospital had closed 0:48:06.680 --> 0:48:09.000 and they ended up having another drive another twenty five 0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:11.319 miles to get to a hospital. By the time they 0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:13.839 got there, the baby was beyond fix shame and died. 0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:17.000 And these are true stories. This is a true story 0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:20.160 of what can happen in our healthcare system. And you're right. 0:48:20.640 --> 0:48:24.160 If that starts happening on a big, high level, big scale, 0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:26.880 it could be it could be the Army Eddon that 0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:27.720 you're talking about. 0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:30.160 Yeah, and I get the private equity element too, But 0:48:30.239 --> 0:48:32.080 they come in and go, hey, listen, you know you're 0:48:32.080 --> 0:48:36.239 not profitable. We'll buy a stake, we'll buy you out, 0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:38.320 we'll take you out. And of course they're about squeezing 0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:40.600 the last remaining dollars out there. And that is the 0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:46.560 nature of how our enterprises, the conditions in which we 0:48:46.680 --> 0:48:50.279 engage in America today, of course, is capitalism, and that's 0:48:50.320 --> 0:48:52.320 the ugly side of it, to be sure. But you know, 0:48:52.360 --> 0:48:54.520 it used to be a government be kind of like 0:48:54.600 --> 0:48:57.200 a referee in these things, and that's long since gone 0:48:57.200 --> 0:48:59.719 away with modern politics the way it is. He is, 0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:03.640 Peter Cowie's a cardiologist, public health expert. Failure to Treat 0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:05.560 as the book and where things are headed here with 0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:09.400 our broken healthcare system that both Republicans and Democrats agree on, 0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:12.000 it's broken and has to change. There's got to be 0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:14.120 a change ageing company. He believes it's going to be 0:49:14.360 --> 0:49:18.759 more healthcare deserts, meaning rural hospital shutting down and people dying, uh, 0:49:19.080 --> 0:49:21.799 largely from trauma. I mean, you're telling me that people 0:49:21.880 --> 0:49:25.640 can literally bleed out because there's no physician or emergency 0:49:25.719 --> 0:49:27.440 room to treat them in a rural area. And we're 0:49:27.440 --> 0:49:30.800 talking about people who are farmers a lot of agricultural areas. 0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:34.239 And as we take the information super Highway and put 0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:36.600 it more rural areas because of the technology, what we'll 0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:39.120 see people who have met in a motor vehicle accident 0:49:39.320 --> 0:49:41.319 or you know, cut themselves of the saw that wind 0:49:41.440 --> 0:49:43.839 up dying is what you're saying, when just a few 0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:45.440 weeks ago they could go to the clinic and get 0:49:45.480 --> 0:49:48.080 sutured up. That's kind of it's and it's like an 0:49:48.080 --> 0:49:50.799 almost third world It sounds like, uh. 0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:53.480 Yeah, well, you know, there are many areas you write 0:49:53.520 --> 0:49:56.960 about absolutely right about trauma. Think about obstetrical obstetrical care. 0:49:57.560 --> 0:50:00.360 How many hospitals not they might not necessarily close, but 0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:04.120 they've closed their obstetrical programs. So women have no place 0:50:04.200 --> 0:50:08.000 to deliver their baby. And there's many reasons for that. 0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:11.120 For the reasons we just discussed. There are financial issues, 0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:15.799 but there's also liability. Now doctors are not going into obstetrics. 0:50:15.880 --> 0:50:18.600 We have a severe shortage of obstetrical physicians in the 0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:22.680 United States, especially in the West and the Midwest. And 0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:25.759 so you're a woman, you're going to deliver your baby, 0:50:25.760 --> 0:50:28.040 you have to drive fifty miles to find someplace where 0:50:28.040 --> 0:50:29.239 they'll deliver your baby for you. 0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:33.120 Think about that, How a lie you can hang on 0:50:33.239 --> 0:50:34.440 after your water breaks. 0:50:34.280 --> 0:50:38.560 Right, I mean, it's insane, but that's exactly what's happening. 0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:41.239 And the thing that's really maddening about this is that 0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:45.400 the public does occasionally take notice of this stuff, but 0:50:45.520 --> 0:50:47.719 they hadn't risen up to the extent that I thought 0:50:47.760 --> 0:50:50.160 that they might. And the book is really kind of 0:50:50.280 --> 0:50:53.440 a clarion call for people, the public as well as 0:50:53.480 --> 0:50:56.840 practitioners to speak up, to talk to their legislators, to 0:50:56.920 --> 0:50:58.919 make sure that they understand that this is an issue 0:50:58.920 --> 0:51:00.360 that they really have to deal with. 0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:05.319 He's doctor Peter Cowie's cardiologists public health expert. The book 0:51:05.440 --> 0:51:07.480 is a failure to treat and what things look like 0:51:08.040 --> 0:51:11.600 maybe in a not so future dystopian future for that matter. 0:51:11.680 --> 0:51:14.520 It sounds dystopiing to me and like the stuff of movies, 0:51:14.640 --> 0:51:17.040 but this is reality. If things continue to go the 0:51:17.080 --> 0:51:19.480 way they are, the question is who wakes up and says, 0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:21.040 all right, we got to blow this thing up. You know, 0:51:21.200 --> 0:51:24.200 government subsidized healthcare costs way more money, and they tell 0:51:24.280 --> 0:51:28.040 me subsidize something. It becomes grossly more inefficient and really 0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:30.600 doesn't help those who would serve to help, because, let's 0:51:30.640 --> 0:51:32.680 face it, the insurance companies, the middle men, are the 0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:34.200 ones taking the money from the government. 0:51:34.280 --> 0:51:34.400 Here. 0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:37.000 As the holdout continues on the other side, if we 0:51:37.160 --> 0:51:40.319 just go, well, you know what, we can't have socialized medicine, Well, 0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:43.480 what's your alternative? Well nothing. Maybe the simple solution is 0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:45.040 as simply, and I've said this for a long time, 0:51:45.080 --> 0:51:47.480 the easiest thing to be doctor Cowie, would be to 0:51:48.200 --> 0:51:51.040 take away the burden for providers like yourself. Imagine if 0:51:51.080 --> 0:51:53.040 you don't have to employ an entire team behind the 0:51:53.120 --> 0:51:57.240 scenes for medical billing, coding, Medicare, Medicaid and all that nonsense, 0:51:57.280 --> 0:51:59.640 and just go Listen, you get sick, here's how much 0:51:59.680 --> 0:52:03.600 it cost us, pay it or get for castropic situations, 0:52:03.680 --> 0:52:06.600 just give catastrophic insurance and pay that much like you 0:52:06.640 --> 0:52:09.800 do your homeowners, your auto insurance, your life insurance. Go 0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:11.719 to a system like that and get your employer the 0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:14.000 hell of a business providing healthcare. I think would solve 0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:14.520 the problem. 0:52:15.880 --> 0:52:19.160 I think what you're suggesting has tremendous merit, and there 0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:22.200 are many people who believe that you're correct that we've 0:52:22.400 --> 0:52:29.239 created an infrastructure of health insurance companies administrators. We have 0:52:29.400 --> 0:52:32.120 more administrators in our hospital than we have nurses. Yeah, 0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:37.720 to get rid of this gigantic infrastructure that we probably 0:52:37.840 --> 0:52:40.200 don't need and return to some kind of a more 0:52:40.239 --> 0:52:43.839 simplistic approach to payment. And I completely agree with your 0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:47.000 catastrophic insurance for those situations where things get a little 0:52:47.000 --> 0:52:49.960 out of control and you're very ill. But yeah, it's 0:52:50.000 --> 0:52:52.560 going to take people to wake up and have a 0:52:52.640 --> 0:52:56.239 little common sense about this, and hopefully the book and 0:52:56.760 --> 0:52:59.920 your radio program will get people motivated in the right. 0:53:00.040 --> 0:53:02.160 All we have to do is eliminate the administrative and 0:53:02.200 --> 0:53:04.680 bureaucratic class. That's a problem. It's too big in in 0:53:04.840 --> 0:53:07.440 medica a medical, it's too big in government, it's too 0:53:07.480 --> 0:53:09.759 big in schools. You name where the problem is. It's 0:53:09.840 --> 0:53:12.799 because we've got a bloated administrative and bureaucratic class. That's 0:53:12.840 --> 0:53:14.560 the problem. All the best, Doc, good luck with the book. 0:53:15.920 --> 0:53:17.759 Yeah, I appreciate it very much, Scott, all right. 0:53:17.719 --> 0:53:18.120 Thanks again. 0:53:18.239 --> 0:53:18.439 Soon. 0:53:18.840 --> 0:53:20.600 It's a news update just a few minutes there, the 0:53:20.680 --> 0:53:22.320 very latest, what's going on. Of course, he violence in 0:53:22.520 --> 0:53:25.680 on Fountain Square first and foremost this morning, and I 0:53:25.760 --> 0:53:27.480 go and I'll hear more adjectives from the mayor. We'll 0:53:27.480 --> 0:53:29.799 find out if any of the sas teeth whatsoever. I'm 0:53:29.880 --> 0:53:31.880 asked Denise Dreehouse about this coming up at eleven oh 0:53:31.920 --> 0:53:34.000 six to some degree, because we're talking about putting the 0:53:34.080 --> 0:53:35.759 old arena where they are the new arena where the 0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:39.480 old arena is Heritage Bank Center and does what does 0:53:39.560 --> 0:53:41.320 this say about the violence downtown and how does that 0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:42.839 impact the banks and what we're trying to do all 0:53:42.840 --> 0:53:45.040 the positive stuff we're trying to do with the arena project, 0:53:45.080 --> 0:53:47.120 among other things, as well as a convention center. She's 0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:49.160 at eleven oh six. Well close than that though. Up 0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:51.719 next Julie Bouki, Julie on the Job We talk career 0:53:51.760 --> 0:53:53.959 related stuff, a little break from the reality of life, 0:53:54.000 --> 0:53:56.480 and maybe some advice and news you can use. Next 0:53:56.520 --> 0:53:58.719 seven hundred WLW Scotts Lunchia. 0:54:00.320 --> 0:54:04.440 And barricades have given way to handshakes and handovers as 0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:08.560 Israel and Hamas six change hostages in a transaction of trust, 0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:12.600 with diplomacy being resurrected from the rubble. Will it hold 0:54:13.000 --> 0:54:16.040 or will the conflict continue? Keep it here for the 0:54:16.200 --> 0:54:20.919 latest updates on seven hundred WLW tri. 0:54:20.960 --> 0:54:22.239 State Board Buyers. 0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:28.279 Helping you navigate the rocky path of fulfilling employment. 0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:33.719 Here's our career shipa. Julie Bouki's all right with the 0:54:33.800 --> 0:54:37.080 economy and just the job market titane. You can really 0:54:37.120 --> 0:54:39.760 feel it, especially among graduates. And then you throw Ai 0:54:40.000 --> 0:54:43.440 into the mix, and what does that mean for future jobs, 0:54:43.520 --> 0:54:46.800 graduates and like and enjoining the show this morning is 0:54:46.840 --> 0:54:49.239 that Julie Bouki our career, Shirpa, welcome, how are you, 0:54:50.680 --> 0:54:53.880 good morning, how are you sar well? Thank you. So 0:54:54.080 --> 0:54:56.600 typically it was hey, it used to be just go 0:54:56.680 --> 0:54:58.799 get a degree. It's fine, go have fun, get good, 0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:01.600 good grades, and we'll this whole thing out. Or you know, 0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:04.960 back when I was a student, it was more like, okay, 0:55:05.080 --> 0:55:07.160 well you know, and you knew people that change majors 0:55:07.280 --> 0:55:10.160 like eleven times are probably still in school. But back 0:55:10.239 --> 0:55:13.040 then it wasn't as not affordable as today today. You've 0:55:13.040 --> 0:55:14.960 got to a plan going in. You just can't figure 0:55:14.960 --> 0:55:17.439 it out as you go along, as generations past have done, 0:55:17.920 --> 0:55:19.040 even more so with AI. 0:55:20.680 --> 0:55:24.280 Yeah, and the plan can't be send junior off someplace 0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:27.040 at eighteen for four years and then when he or 0:55:27.160 --> 0:55:29.960 she pops out at twenty two, they've got a great 0:55:30.040 --> 0:55:32.480 job and a great career path waiting for them. And 0:55:32.840 --> 0:55:37.600 those those days are gone. And the challenge is with 0:55:37.800 --> 0:55:44.120 parents getting our kids understand that. I love this article 0:55:44.120 --> 0:55:46.080 on the Wall through Journal talking about it's hard to 0:55:46.120 --> 0:55:48.439 give career advice to your kids these days. Of course, 0:55:48.480 --> 0:55:50.440 I had to laugh at that and say like they 0:55:50.480 --> 0:55:54.560 were ever listening. You know, we want them to start 0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:57.200 thinking ahead, start being prepared. And it's really hard when 0:55:57.200 --> 0:56:00.680 you're a teenager in late teens, early twenties to have 0:56:00.920 --> 0:56:05.239 that ability to see ahead and to see that the 0:56:05.320 --> 0:56:08.759 world has changed and you're going to have to join 0:56:08.840 --> 0:56:11.359 the workforce and exist in a different way. In the past, 0:56:11.440 --> 0:56:13.359 we joined a company and we did all of our 0:56:13.480 --> 0:56:17.040 learning there. We got trained, we bumped our head, we 0:56:17.200 --> 0:56:20.440 were successful, we weren't successful, We moved around, and we 0:56:20.560 --> 0:56:24.239 did it all inside of a four wall sort of metaphorically. 0:56:24.400 --> 0:56:27.680 But we are in a place now where kids are 0:56:27.719 --> 0:56:30.440 going to have to learn to maneuver from chapter to 0:56:30.600 --> 0:56:34.000 chapter and each chapter might look different from the last one, 0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:37.040 and so the ability to do that, that's really if 0:56:37.080 --> 0:56:40.560 you've got teenagers right now, the three things that I'm 0:56:40.640 --> 0:56:43.760 suggesting that you really work with them on or focus 0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:48.040 on is helping them build out there what we call 0:56:48.160 --> 0:56:52.640 soft skills. How do you can customer service, talking to people, 0:56:52.840 --> 0:56:57.799 problem solving, doing something that's hard and feels uncomfortable. Can 0:56:57.840 --> 0:57:00.720 you stand in front of a room and that's something 0:57:01.320 --> 0:57:03.839 those we call them soft skills that those are really 0:57:03.920 --> 0:57:07.520 the ones that companies that are really desiring right now. 0:57:07.760 --> 0:57:08.680 Because we talked. 0:57:08.760 --> 0:57:11.840 I know, we talked last week about AI and AI 0:57:11.960 --> 0:57:14.239 will replace some jobs, but for the most part, what 0:57:14.320 --> 0:57:17.040 it's going to do is it's going to impact how 0:57:17.240 --> 0:57:21.000 jobs you're done. Won't replace you, but it'll change maybe 0:57:21.080 --> 0:57:24.120 how you work. And so therefore you have to be 0:57:24.280 --> 0:57:28.520 better at those people skills, communicating, listening, problem solving, you know, 0:57:28.720 --> 0:57:32.520 being a decent person to work with. Those things are 0:57:32.600 --> 0:57:34.880 going to become magnified in terms of their importance. 0:57:35.200 --> 0:57:38.280 That's something that AI can't do. It can't act. At 0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:40.400 some point, there's there's gonna be you know, let's face it, 0:57:40.480 --> 0:57:42.400 growing number of jobs where there's no human interaction. But 0:57:42.720 --> 0:57:44.880 there's still plenty out there in the service sector. 0:57:45.400 --> 0:57:45.560 You know. 0:57:45.560 --> 0:57:47.920 I just thinking of this, Julie, because the fear is AA. 0:57:48.080 --> 0:57:51.200 My daughter's studying and she's like realizing, like you know 0:57:51.200 --> 0:57:52.920 what I'm studying, it's in the computer field. It's like, 0:57:53.160 --> 0:57:55.400 AI is probably going to take this job into your future. 0:57:55.440 --> 0:57:57.720 I got to pivot and so I see what classes 0:57:57.760 --> 0:57:59.640 I have and I can change and move and she's 0:57:59.680 --> 0:58:02.760 being I think that's a smart move and may delay 0:58:02.800 --> 0:58:05.040 graduation a semester. But you know, okay, let's not get 0:58:05.040 --> 0:58:06.960 a degree in something that's worthless. Let's not do that. 0:58:07.680 --> 0:58:11.560 At the same time, she's also her income and she's 0:58:11.600 --> 0:58:14.880 a server and that's why she's paying for school and so. 0:58:14.960 --> 0:58:16.880 But she's learning though, So I think that's important, right, 0:58:17.000 --> 0:58:18.520 is they we don't want our kids to work, We 0:58:18.600 --> 0:58:21.000 want them to play sports, and we'll pay for everything. 0:58:21.120 --> 0:58:23.040 And you know, not all parents are that way. But 0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:25.360 I think having that service job where you're in front 0:58:25.360 --> 0:58:27.040 of people and you're having to deal with, you know, 0:58:27.560 --> 0:58:31.480 problematic customers and managers and schedules, and that trains you 0:58:31.640 --> 0:58:33.560 for what we're talking about here. If you spend your 0:58:33.720 --> 0:58:36.760 entire life just in front of a screen, you have 0:58:36.880 --> 0:58:38.600 no soft skills at all. You have to learn by 0:58:38.800 --> 0:58:40.000 interacting with human beings. 0:58:41.400 --> 0:58:43.600 Yes, and you said something really important there when you 0:58:43.640 --> 0:58:46.520 were talking about your daughter, So that she's taking she's 0:58:46.560 --> 0:58:50.959 in a technology field, working on her degree, and that's great, 0:58:51.640 --> 0:58:54.440 but even if parts of that are going to be 0:58:54.480 --> 0:58:58.200 impacted by AI. What she's doing, what she's modeling is 0:58:58.880 --> 0:59:02.160 and understanding and inter some technology and are willing to learn. 0:59:02.280 --> 0:59:07.840 And then you said flexible, flexible, adaptable, Another super important skills. 0:59:08.240 --> 0:59:10.560 Because if she is showing right now, look she's if 0:59:10.640 --> 0:59:12.439 she is, I look at that and I say, okay. 0:59:12.440 --> 0:59:14.080 If I was working with her to tell her story, 0:59:14.160 --> 0:59:18.360 I say, okay. I enjoyed learning about technology. I understand 0:59:18.920 --> 0:59:21.760 that things are going to change, but the basis and 0:59:21.880 --> 0:59:23.760 everything I've learned, I think it's going to help me 0:59:24.640 --> 0:59:28.680 learn more quickly whatever comes my way. In addition, I 0:59:28.800 --> 0:59:30.960 have worked as a server and a lot of customer 0:59:31.040 --> 0:59:33.040 service roles that have really taught me how to deal 0:59:33.120 --> 0:59:35.840 with all kinds of people from the general public to 0:59:36.600 --> 0:59:40.880 you know, more senior level people. And that combination really 0:59:41.440 --> 0:59:45.680 is what companies are looking for. And so that flexibility, adaptability, 0:59:46.680 --> 0:59:49.960 learn soft skills, the ability to learn, and then some 0:59:50.280 --> 0:59:53.800 level of comfort with technology. You know, we didn't do 0:59:53.920 --> 0:59:56.040 that in my day is never going to got it 0:59:56.240 --> 0:59:58.960 ever ever again, No, you have to learn. 0:59:59.560 --> 1:00:01.880 But that's the thing, is Okay. So if you're the 1:00:02.000 --> 1:00:03.760 parent of a student, or you're a student, or you're 1:00:03.760 --> 1:00:05.960 headed off to college student side, how do I know 1:00:06.040 --> 1:00:07.800 that AI is going to take this job over? Is 1:00:07.840 --> 1:00:09.680 there a letmus test for this or we just don't know? 1:00:10.360 --> 1:00:13.720 Well, you don't, And I think that's I heard one 1:00:13.760 --> 1:00:17.200 of probably one of the most prolific prognosticators on this 1:00:17.360 --> 1:00:20.920 kind of stuff being asked this question on a call 1:00:21.040 --> 1:00:23.880 in show and he said, I have no idea. Because 1:00:23.880 --> 1:00:25.760 the mom was asking how do I guide my young 1:00:25.800 --> 1:00:27.760 sons who are getting ready for college in a couple 1:00:27.760 --> 1:00:29.880 of years, and he said, I have no idea, But 1:00:30.000 --> 1:00:32.520 he said, in actence the same thing I did. The 1:00:32.600 --> 1:00:37.960 ability to learn, the ability to communicate effectively, the ability 1:00:38.040 --> 1:00:40.080 to fall in your face and get back up. That 1:00:40.440 --> 1:00:42.680 those are the things that at least as we speak today, 1:00:43.240 --> 1:00:48.120 AI cannot replace. And so it's as you have teenagers 1:00:48.200 --> 1:00:51.920 junior high high school, you know, maybe you know, insist 1:00:52.280 --> 1:00:54.600 that they get out there and get their hands dirty 1:00:54.920 --> 1:00:59.280 working with the general public, babysitting, working a don, walking 1:00:59.320 --> 1:01:03.520 the dogs, whatever it is, that being a caddy is 1:01:03.720 --> 1:01:07.680 wonderful experience for interacting with people. Don't get so caught 1:01:07.720 --> 1:01:10.480 up in they have to take every single AP class offered. 1:01:11.160 --> 1:01:14.080 And I think also from a parental standpoint, we have 1:01:14.280 --> 1:01:17.439 to get off of our there's only one right way past. 1:01:18.280 --> 1:01:21.200 And if your son or daughter is really showing an 1:01:21.240 --> 1:01:24.960 interest in working with their hands in the sort of 1:01:25.000 --> 1:01:28.640 the industrial type arts, or really, you don't have to go, 1:01:28.760 --> 1:01:31.480 oh good, you can be a blah blah blah engineer 1:01:32.560 --> 1:01:34.600 at that point when they start to show with their 1:01:34.600 --> 1:01:36.720 interest in it, and listen to them and make sure 1:01:36.840 --> 1:01:40.120 they take advantage of everything their high school offers in 1:01:40.280 --> 1:01:42.840 order to get clear on what direction they should point. 1:01:43.560 --> 1:01:45.400 They're not going to stay in that direction forever, but 1:01:45.480 --> 1:01:47.919 at least gives them solid footing to begin their career. 1:01:48.000 --> 1:01:51.000 Prom and don't the colleges are not doing this for 1:01:51.160 --> 1:01:54.520 your kids, so you have to it has to start young, 1:01:54.720 --> 1:01:57.200 and don't and really listen to what they want to do. 1:01:57.760 --> 1:01:59.880 And maybe they're not expressing it in the right word, 1:02:00.160 --> 1:02:03.360 but what they are doing, the things they gravitate towards 1:02:03.360 --> 1:02:05.920 the things they enjoy, their hobbies, all those things are 1:02:06.040 --> 1:02:09.120 clues about what they enjoy and so how do you 1:02:09.240 --> 1:02:11.920 take that and then translate that? And it's not a 1:02:12.000 --> 1:02:13.720 one and done process, and they're going to have many, 1:02:13.760 --> 1:02:15.040 many chapters in their careers. 1:02:15.960 --> 1:02:17.720 Julie Balki Our career short, but jumps on the show 1:02:17.720 --> 1:02:20.080 every Wednesday morning, breaks up a little talking correlated stuff 1:02:20.080 --> 1:02:22.920 in AI. How rough time for grads right now? But 1:02:23.040 --> 1:02:25.280 now I'm going to school and like, am I going 1:02:25.360 --> 1:02:27.000 to have a job in a year or two or 1:02:27.000 --> 1:02:29.960 three when I graduate in a field that AI is 1:02:30.040 --> 1:02:33.160 going to destroy? I mean, we always talk about how 1:02:33.280 --> 1:02:35.240 people born today are going to take jobs that have 1:02:35.400 --> 1:02:37.680 yet to be created. Now we have people that are 1:02:37.720 --> 1:02:40.120 close to graduating that are not going to get a 1:02:40.280 --> 1:02:42.840 job because it was here and then it's gone because 1:02:42.880 --> 1:02:45.120 of AI. It's really weird and you at the same time, 1:02:46.320 --> 1:02:49.200 you know, in school, we saw this during COVID, especially 1:02:49.360 --> 1:02:52.160 with you know, zoom and collaborating and everything else. But 1:02:52.200 --> 1:02:55.200 today we're telling students in school not to use AI. 1:02:55.240 --> 1:02:57.960 You've got to learn this material. And then okay, well 1:02:57.960 --> 1:02:59.880 I go to college and I'm going to need to 1:03:00.080 --> 1:03:02.360 have AI skills when I graduate. That's kind of a 1:03:02.400 --> 1:03:03.200 mixed message, isn't it. 1:03:04.760 --> 1:03:06.400 Yeah, you know, and we've talked about this in the past, 1:03:06.440 --> 1:03:10.280 how companies are just so fed up with applicants using 1:03:11.720 --> 1:03:14.320 AI for everything to write the resumes, come up with 1:03:14.400 --> 1:03:17.800 answers to the potential interview questions, and so we're you know, 1:03:17.840 --> 1:03:19.840 the pendulum is swing and this is all still being 1:03:19.920 --> 1:03:24.360 figured out. But when you're out there, so okay, go ahead, 1:03:25.040 --> 1:03:28.000 let chat GPT, write your resume, but don't stop there, 1:03:28.520 --> 1:03:31.040 go and read it, look at it and say, okay, 1:03:31.120 --> 1:03:34.160 is this really? Is this really telling my story? Is 1:03:34.240 --> 1:03:37.040 this language I would use when I show up for 1:03:37.160 --> 1:03:39.640 an interview? Is this resume going to sound like me? 1:03:40.280 --> 1:03:43.480 You've got to put another layer over that, which is 1:03:43.600 --> 1:03:45.000 really what is you know? 1:03:45.120 --> 1:03:45.720 Who are you? 1:03:46.240 --> 1:03:50.640 And if everybody's using cat GPT to write the resumes, 1:03:50.840 --> 1:03:53.600 you aren't going to stand out. And so this isn't 1:03:53.720 --> 1:03:57.560 about and so I think it's the same with using 1:03:57.840 --> 1:04:02.880 gp GPT for anything. Don't rely it, rely it, rely 1:04:03.000 --> 1:04:06.160 it for the finished product, help you to help you 1:04:06.240 --> 1:04:09.720 get started, to fast start, and then refine from there. 1:04:10.240 --> 1:04:12.520 I think that's where when we're when we're using it 1:04:12.760 --> 1:04:14.280 just because we don't want to put the work in, 1:04:14.880 --> 1:04:17.560 or we don't want to do the hard thinking around 1:04:17.720 --> 1:04:19.959 a project or a resume or cover letters or whatever 1:04:19.960 --> 1:04:23.200 it is, that's when it starts to really really backfire 1:04:23.320 --> 1:04:26.520 because employers, and you know, whether it's employer you're interviewing 1:04:26.560 --> 1:04:28.800 with or someone you work with, can see right through that. 1:04:29.760 --> 1:04:31.919 I know AI can't replace the trades. 1:04:33.560 --> 1:04:36.439 That's true, but it will change how they're done, yeah, 1:04:37.000 --> 1:04:39.600 how they interact with customers. You know, so yeah, it's 1:04:39.640 --> 1:04:40.400 not going to retreat. 1:04:40.840 --> 1:04:42.400 Yeah, but if you've got to you know, put a 1:04:42.840 --> 1:04:44.880 you know, sweats and plumber, put a press fitting in 1:04:45.000 --> 1:04:47.080 something you plumbing for example, you still have to do 1:04:47.120 --> 1:04:48.640 the plumbing. AA is not go did Now you may 1:04:48.680 --> 1:04:51.479 be able to use AI to do calculations and runs 1:04:51.480 --> 1:04:53.480 and stuff. Oh, that's a little different matter, but the 1:04:53.560 --> 1:04:56.120 physical nature of it until we build an AI robot 1:04:56.200 --> 1:04:59.080 that can replace a human being to build stuff that 1:04:59.440 --> 1:05:02.000 and we should And unfortunately, parents I think are waking 1:05:02.080 --> 1:05:03.760 up going, wait a minute, you're spending all this money 1:05:03.800 --> 1:05:06.320 and you know, we still have to subsidize you when 1:05:06.360 --> 1:05:07.880 you're a young adult. You should be on your own. 1:05:08.160 --> 1:05:10.480 That's not all, but that's too many. And I think 1:05:10.560 --> 1:05:13.160 parents are finally realized and there's no stigma in gaining 1:05:13.200 --> 1:05:14.680 your kids and something like that. 1:05:15.920 --> 1:05:19.040 Nope, nope. And then we're making progress there. And sometimes 1:05:19.080 --> 1:05:22.400 it's just driven by by need, you know, by demand, 1:05:22.760 --> 1:05:24.520 and to the point that we can't keep our head 1:05:24.520 --> 1:05:25.320 in the sand anymore. 1:05:25.800 --> 1:05:27.760 Well, we're still going to need people in stems, I 1:05:27.800 --> 1:05:31.440 mean science, math, Oh, gotcha, We're still going to need 1:05:31.560 --> 1:05:33.480 people with you know, if you have a business degree, 1:05:33.520 --> 1:05:35.400 you're still going to be fine. Now, am I change 1:05:35.440 --> 1:05:37.320 that a lot? But you still you can do a 1:05:37.360 --> 1:05:38.240 lot with a business degree. 1:05:39.600 --> 1:05:42.880 Oh yeah, absolutely. It's a broad set of skills and 1:05:43.040 --> 1:05:46.160 knowledge that every business that looks to run a profit 1:05:46.320 --> 1:05:49.000 or even a nonprofit is going to benefit from those skills. 1:05:49.400 --> 1:05:52.440 So it's being broadly skilled, being open to learn, being 1:05:52.520 --> 1:05:55.760 eager to jump in and take on something new, and 1:05:55.920 --> 1:05:58.080 not being afraid of falling on your face. That's really 1:05:58.160 --> 1:06:00.840 what that's really in a nutshell, eployers are looking for, 1:06:01.200 --> 1:06:05.400 and we're not preparing young people, especially for the failing 1:06:05.560 --> 1:06:07.680 and getting out there and screwing up part. It's like 1:06:07.800 --> 1:06:10.480 we you know, as parents, we too many parents look 1:06:10.520 --> 1:06:13.160 at this as if you fail at something, and the 1:06:13.240 --> 1:06:15.320 fail I use the word loosely, but if you don't 1:06:15.360 --> 1:06:17.920 do well at something or something doesn't go your way, 1:06:18.000 --> 1:06:19.760 it's a direct reflection on me as a parent. 1:06:20.120 --> 1:06:22.480 Yeah yeah, and it's really not I mean, we still 1:06:22.520 --> 1:06:24.280 have that stigma of going to you know, people where 1:06:24.280 --> 1:06:27.440 in the mom and dad university vanity stickers on the 1:06:27.480 --> 1:06:30.760 minivans there are probably my kids oh Harvard Mom. Okay, great, 1:06:30.800 --> 1:06:32.640 it doesn't make you a better person. Now if your 1:06:32.720 --> 1:06:34.040 kid goes, Hi, are you going to go to an 1:06:34.040 --> 1:06:36.920 ivy league. I'm not diminishing that at all. It's congratulations. 1:06:36.920 --> 1:06:39.120 But there's a lot of people whose values of parents 1:06:39.200 --> 1:06:40.560 wrapped up in that that's unfortunate. 1:06:41.160 --> 1:06:43.760 Absolutely, yes, very much associate it all the time. 1:06:43.880 --> 1:06:44.320 Yeah, we do. 1:06:44.640 --> 1:06:45.560 Julie Balki our career. 1:06:45.600 --> 1:06:45.760 Sure. 1:06:46.000 --> 1:06:48.560 On the Scott's Loan Show. She jumps in every Wednesday morning. 1:06:48.640 --> 1:06:51.520 She's at the Bauki group dot com. Her team ready 1:06:51.560 --> 1:06:54.120 to work for you. Maybe you're going through job change. 1:06:54.200 --> 1:06:58.240 Maybe uh again. You do your work with college students 1:06:58.280 --> 1:06:59.920 as well, too, right, or even high schools. 1:07:00.320 --> 1:07:02.360 Yeah, young people or very young people like that. We 1:07:02.640 --> 1:07:05.560 have worked with the very mature juniors and seniors in 1:07:05.600 --> 1:07:07.960 college to help them prepare for what's next. Its actually, 1:07:08.760 --> 1:07:11.720 it's fun. They're really fun. They're very creative. I think 1:07:11.800 --> 1:07:14.360 we don't give them enough credit. They're so skilled in 1:07:14.480 --> 1:07:16.960 so many different ways that we just didn't value or 1:07:17.000 --> 1:07:18.880 having valued as much as we should. So, yeah, we're 1:07:18.880 --> 1:07:20.680 even working with juniors and seniors in college. 1:07:20.760 --> 1:07:23.000 No, they're not. They're just putting your questions into AI 1:07:23.120 --> 1:07:24.600 and getting an answer. What's wrong with you? 1:07:25.000 --> 1:07:27.360 No, they're not things you can't fake you. 1:07:27.360 --> 1:07:31.840 Know, yeah, we know exactly. You know, you kind of 1:07:31.880 --> 1:07:33.560 know when you're sitting down face to face and talking 1:07:33.600 --> 1:07:35.680 to someone, there's eye contact, there's all these things. That's 1:07:35.720 --> 1:07:37.600 why I'm a big proponent of working when you're younger 1:07:37.640 --> 1:07:39.480 and having a job in college or high school because 1:07:40.160 --> 1:07:42.160 the soft skills, the people skills, learning how to interact 1:07:42.200 --> 1:07:44.000 with folks, and so many young people today, not all 1:07:44.040 --> 1:07:47.040 of them, but far too many don't have the ability. 1:07:47.120 --> 1:07:48.640 It's like they've got to look at the screen and 1:07:49.000 --> 1:07:52.040 you know, talk in one hundred and forty one hundred 1:07:52.040 --> 1:07:54.200 and forty characters less. And I work with people like 1:07:54.280 --> 1:07:56.840 that and go, man, you got to have some ability 1:07:56.840 --> 1:07:59.080 to hold a conversation. Look somebody, the eyes, shake their hand, 1:07:59.440 --> 1:08:02.800 interact and that feels like it's a dying art and 1:08:03.120 --> 1:08:05.200 it's gonna be the cornerstone what we do in the future. 1:08:05.200 --> 1:08:08.160 You want to sep yourself, separate yourself from AI, then 1:08:08.200 --> 1:08:09.080 you have to have those skills. 1:08:10.560 --> 1:08:12.120 Yeah, absolutely, all. 1:08:12.080 --> 1:08:15.280 Right, Julie all the Bessel Chat next week, right, Yes, 1:08:15.400 --> 1:08:18.439 we will take care. She's at the Bauki Group Bauk 1:08:18.640 --> 1:08:22.000 bukiegroup dot com. We've got lots going on in the city, 1:08:22.080 --> 1:08:23.960 of course, and a lot of bad things are happening, 1:08:23.960 --> 1:08:25.720 a lot of good stuff. We've got the Thursday Night 1:08:25.760 --> 1:08:28.600 Football crew in town, so Cincinnati will be featured on 1:08:28.720 --> 1:08:31.160 Thursday Night Football Bengals Steelers will have the game for 1:08:31.240 --> 1:08:32.560 you with Dan and lap here on the Home of 1:08:32.560 --> 1:08:36.880 the Best Bengals coverage seven hundred WLW. My fear though, 1:08:37.000 --> 1:08:39.120 is when they shoot shoot the glamour shots of downtown 1:08:39.200 --> 1:08:41.320 and they show Fountain Square, are we going to see 1:08:41.680 --> 1:08:44.519 a swat officer standing there guarding the Genius of statue, 1:08:44.600 --> 1:08:48.919 the Genius of water statue from Aaron bullets striking the bronze. 1:08:50.280 --> 1:08:52.240 I mean literally steps away from what they're going to 1:08:52.280 --> 1:08:54.960 show on Thursday Night. Tomorrow night will be a window 1:08:55.000 --> 1:08:57.040 with a bullet hole in it. At City Chicken. Of course, 1:08:57.080 --> 1:08:59.760 we had gunplay steps away from that the day before, 1:09:00.240 --> 1:09:02.920 days before anyway, where some people who had a beef 1:09:03.000 --> 1:09:04.720 had beef with each other decide they're going to get 1:09:04.760 --> 1:09:06.920 a shoot out right in the middle of Fountain Square, 1:09:07.040 --> 1:09:09.400 but right during rush hour as well. And now the 1:09:09.439 --> 1:09:12.479 mayors come out of press conference saying the adjective of 1:09:12.520 --> 1:09:18.680 the day is intolerable. Intolerable. My adjective may be maybe incurable. 1:09:18.760 --> 1:09:20.479 Has it gone too far? Has it gone put the 1:09:20.520 --> 1:09:22.280 point of no? Which are we too far gone? Not 1:09:22.400 --> 1:09:24.840 that we can't save it, but all the adjectives and 1:09:24.960 --> 1:09:27.880 curfews and patrol, they've done little, And we just got 1:09:27.960 --> 1:09:31.439 to get back to enforcing the law, going and going 1:09:31.520 --> 1:09:34.759 after those individuals and making examples of them. There should 1:09:34.840 --> 1:09:37.519 absolutely be no wiggle room. If you are a person 1:09:37.560 --> 1:09:39.040 who has a gun on you, they shouldn't have a 1:09:39.080 --> 1:09:40.920 gun on you. And that could be someone at her age, 1:09:40.960 --> 1:09:44.479 but specifically someone under disability, meaning that person's already been 1:09:44.520 --> 1:09:48.200 convicted of a felony and the law prohibits them from carrying, using, 1:09:48.320 --> 1:09:51.240 or even thinking about a firearm. And I'm willing to 1:09:51.320 --> 1:09:54.840 bet a lot maybe the farm, even if I had 1:09:54.880 --> 1:09:57.000 a farm, that that guy that we saw in the 1:09:57.080 --> 1:10:01.160 video with a white T shirt, the thick guy, fits 1:10:01.200 --> 1:10:03.479 into that category. You know what I'm saying. I just 1:10:03.560 --> 1:10:06.439 have a sneaking suspicion that person had some priors. The 1:10:06.520 --> 1:10:08.800 way they carried, the way they acted, what they did, 1:10:09.120 --> 1:10:11.280 and just how cold they were tells me that person 1:10:11.560 --> 1:10:18.000 probably has some experience of law enforcement. Don't know what's 1:10:18.040 --> 1:10:20.160 going to initiate the change here. But the stuff they 1:10:20.200 --> 1:10:23.000 didn't want to do looks like we're doing this argument 1:10:23.040 --> 1:10:25.360 about okay, well we don't want the national Guard here. 1:10:25.439 --> 1:10:27.880 We can't have the National Guard here because it looks why, well, 1:10:28.760 --> 1:10:30.400 you know it's a federal say okay, I get the 1:10:30.479 --> 1:10:34.000 nuance between state, local, and federal government. At the same time, 1:10:34.160 --> 1:10:37.080 the average untrained eye, if I see an officer or 1:10:37.160 --> 1:10:40.840 someone who's dressed in military gear, paramilitary gear with a 1:10:40.920 --> 1:10:45.080 long gun, tactical gear, helmet, face shield, all of that stuff, 1:10:46.920 --> 1:10:49.439 I think it's police state, regardless if it's a National Guard, 1:10:51.080 --> 1:10:54.360 whether it's the US Army, or whether it's local law enforcement. 1:10:54.760 --> 1:10:58.160 I mean, stop with the semantics of it. We're at 1:10:58.200 --> 1:11:01.120 that point right now. I'm sorry, and we're at that 1:11:01.200 --> 1:11:03.320 point because well we let it get to this point. 1:11:04.600 --> 1:11:06.519 Up next on the show, Denise three House is here. 1:11:06.640 --> 1:11:09.200 She's the president of the Hamlin County Commission. Did you 1:11:09.240 --> 1:11:12.599 hear about this talk about building a new arena when 1:11:12.640 --> 1:11:14.120 that is I don't know, but there are four sites 1:11:14.120 --> 1:11:17.040 selected at least to attracted. One would be where Heritage 1:11:17.040 --> 1:11:19.080 Bank Center sits now, simply because well, how are you 1:11:19.080 --> 1:11:20.360 going to do that? You got to blow that up 1:11:20.360 --> 1:11:22.760 and then rebuild. So there's no hockey, there's no events there. 1:11:22.800 --> 1:11:25.240 What's that do for the banks? And it's kind of 1:11:25.280 --> 1:11:27.360 hard to redevelop that area. And now they've gone it 1:11:27.400 --> 1:11:29.240 for a second time and said, no, wait, wait a minute, 1:11:29.240 --> 1:11:31.559 maybe this is the best area for a wait a minute, 1:11:31.600 --> 1:11:35.519 hold on just a second. What just happened? Ask Denise 1:11:35.520 --> 1:11:38.000 about this coming up next? Scott's loan seven hundred WWT 1:11:38.080 --> 1:11:40.040 since now do you want to be an American? 1:11:41.479 --> 1:11:41.559 Right? 1:11:41.600 --> 1:11:44.479 Scott's flown back on seven hundred wws. So last year 1:11:44.600 --> 1:11:47.160 we did a study to find out where you could 1:11:47.200 --> 1:11:49.719 put a new arena. We need a shiny new arena badly, 1:11:50.640 --> 1:11:53.920 and they came up with four sites. The spot where 1:11:54.000 --> 1:11:58.400 Heritage Bank Center sits now is ah. They looked at 1:11:58.400 --> 1:12:01.360 it and went, is this it's too small? We can't 1:12:01.400 --> 1:12:03.760 there's no way you can put an arena here all 1:12:03.880 --> 1:12:08.080 right now. MSA Sport, the agency, the group that's doing 1:12:08.160 --> 1:12:11.360 the studies, They re examined that site again recently and said, 1:12:11.400 --> 1:12:13.080 you know what, I think we can make this. I 1:12:13.240 --> 1:12:16.240 think we can make this work. Boy, this is interesting. 1:12:16.320 --> 1:12:18.720 Hemlin County Commission President Denise Dreehouse on the show on 1:12:18.800 --> 1:12:21.200 seven hundred at WLWDS. Welcome back. How are you? 1:12:22.200 --> 1:12:23.040 Yeah, I'm dad, how are you? 1:12:23.240 --> 1:12:26.120 Thanks for having me? Of course? All right, So this 1:12:26.360 --> 1:12:28.160 is the I don't know, maybe this is like the 1:12:28.280 --> 1:12:31.000 Italian in me. I'm not sure. But so MSA comes 1:12:31.040 --> 1:12:33.160 in a second time for free mind you, and they go, 1:12:33.640 --> 1:12:35.519 you know what, we need to really look at this 1:12:36.040 --> 1:12:38.880 this arena site again and you know what, actually we 1:12:39.040 --> 1:12:40.920 can do it if we move maring Way and we 1:12:41.040 --> 1:12:43.080 build a floodwall and do they say we can actually 1:12:43.120 --> 1:12:46.280 put a new arena on the existing site. And I 1:12:46.400 --> 1:12:48.599 heard that, And this is after the study came out 1:12:48.680 --> 1:12:50.160 just last year. It's not like, you know, five ten 1:12:50.240 --> 1:12:53.280 years have passed. This feels to me like there's tremendous 1:12:53.320 --> 1:12:56.920 pressure from people with a lot of influence strongly suggesting 1:12:57.040 --> 1:12:59.880 the site, as in, yeah, if you know it's good 1:12:59.920 --> 1:13:02.080 for you, you're going to build the arena the same site. 1:13:02.200 --> 1:13:04.920 My question is is this forced? And if so, who 1:13:05.040 --> 1:13:07.320 forced it? Because all of a sudden it didn't fit 1:13:07.400 --> 1:13:09.960 and then suddenly, praise God, the arena miracle happened and 1:13:10.000 --> 1:13:11.519 now we can fit an arena in the spot that 1:13:11.600 --> 1:13:13.840 we thought we couldn't just a year ago. What am 1:13:13.840 --> 1:13:14.400 I missing here? 1:13:15.800 --> 1:13:19.120 Well, I think there are people. I don't know, it's 1:13:19.200 --> 1:13:21.360 great influence. I'm not sure that captures it, but there 1:13:21.400 --> 1:13:24.400 are people that are advocating for all of the site. 1:13:24.960 --> 1:13:28.960 And so I think this one on the riverfront, you know, 1:13:29.000 --> 1:13:31.080 I think there was some question as to whether or 1:13:31.120 --> 1:13:35.040 not it could fit in a larger footprint. And as 1:13:35.120 --> 1:13:38.160 you say, they've moved the street to the south, They've 1:13:38.200 --> 1:13:40.639 opened up some of the parking, the surface parking down 1:13:40.680 --> 1:13:44.040 there for the project, and so it's an interest. I mean, 1:13:44.080 --> 1:13:48.920 I'm very interested in this design because it captures and 1:13:49.120 --> 1:13:52.880 utilizes some of the built infrastructure that is already down 1:13:52.960 --> 1:13:55.240 there that the county and the city and the state 1:13:55.760 --> 1:13:58.960 all partnered to you'll build all that parking infrastructure there, 1:13:59.400 --> 1:14:02.639 and from I vanage point, I want to definitely try 1:14:02.680 --> 1:14:05.479 to take advantage of build infrastructure no matter where the 1:14:05.560 --> 1:14:06.200 arena goes. 1:14:07.120 --> 1:14:08.400 Yeah, I mean, I get it. You look at that 1:14:08.479 --> 1:14:11.320 and it's quite embarrassing for us to ease if you 1:14:11.400 --> 1:14:13.839 look at whether it's a county, the city, the Bengals, 1:14:13.920 --> 1:14:15.640 or all of us the banks is the fact that 1:14:16.080 --> 1:14:18.320 that was some twenty something years ago and there's still 1:14:18.400 --> 1:14:21.320 concrete piercing in there, waiting to be decked up for parking, 1:14:21.360 --> 1:14:23.640 garage and everything else. And I just can't help. But 1:14:23.880 --> 1:14:26.160 I'm not saying that this building out on the initial site, 1:14:26.200 --> 1:14:28.000 the site where the bank arena is right now, the 1:14:28.040 --> 1:14:29.960 Heriage Bank Center is now, is not a bad idea. 1:14:30.000 --> 1:14:33.080 But I'm saying, is are we choosing that simply because 1:14:33.120 --> 1:14:35.280 there's so many people I know, you and the commission, 1:14:35.720 --> 1:14:38.000 the Bank's working group, the Reds, the Bengals, the big 1:14:38.080 --> 1:14:41.479 money people, the decision makers really wanted on that site 1:14:41.520 --> 1:14:43.720 because so much is invested in the banks. I understand that, 1:14:44.200 --> 1:14:47.719 But again, we have land that's ready to be developed 1:14:47.720 --> 1:14:49.880 and it's been sitting vacant for so long. I mean 1:14:49.920 --> 1:14:52.320 it's really not let's face, it doesn't take twenty years 1:14:52.360 --> 1:14:54.599 to do what the grand vision is. I just wonder 1:14:54.720 --> 1:14:58.320 if we're forcing this to make sure that we use Atlanta, 1:14:58.800 --> 1:15:00.920 and when you do that, of course, are we choosing 1:15:00.960 --> 1:15:03.599 the best site or the one that the people behind 1:15:03.640 --> 1:15:06.519 the scene want the most? And does that does is 1:15:06.560 --> 1:15:08.720 that good for taxpayers and people have come down there. 1:15:08.720 --> 1:15:09.679 I think it's a legit question. 1:15:10.720 --> 1:15:13.040 Oh, I absolutely think we should ask the question which 1:15:13.120 --> 1:15:16.360 is best for the taxpayers, And that is ultimately the 1:15:16.479 --> 1:15:21.000 question I asked myself, which one benefits the taxpayers again 1:15:21.160 --> 1:15:24.160 using this built infrastructure that the taxpayers invested in. And 1:15:24.280 --> 1:15:27.360 so I am not committed necessarily to one site over 1:15:27.400 --> 1:15:29.720 the other. I think we do need to evaluate and 1:15:29.840 --> 1:15:32.200 make sure we're picking the best site. But I think 1:15:32.439 --> 1:15:35.160 these questions have to be asked. You know, where is 1:15:35.280 --> 1:15:38.320 the biggest thing for the bug for the taxpayers. And 1:15:38.600 --> 1:15:41.840 I have always said from the very beginning that we 1:15:42.000 --> 1:15:44.600 need to recognize we've got built infrastructure in some of 1:15:44.680 --> 1:15:48.360 these locations and we don't necessarily have it in others. 1:15:48.800 --> 1:15:50.680 So I don't feel like there's a heavy hand here. 1:15:50.720 --> 1:15:52.840 I mean, there was a study that was conducted by 1:15:52.880 --> 1:15:55.519 the Chamber in partnership with the city and the county 1:15:55.600 --> 1:15:58.560 to evaluate different sites, and that's what they did, and 1:15:58.680 --> 1:16:01.360 so this isn't a dendum to that report. I don't 1:16:01.360 --> 1:16:04.639 think it's put the period on anything. So I don't 1:16:04.680 --> 1:16:06.640 quite view it in that way. And the other thing 1:16:06.720 --> 1:16:10.840 I want to mention is that the Urban Design Review Group, 1:16:11.120 --> 1:16:15.000 that again is some of the stakeholders down on the riverfront, 1:16:15.439 --> 1:16:18.320 are looking at those four sites that are still not 1:16:18.520 --> 1:16:22.800 developed and presenting a report to us mid November, and 1:16:23.040 --> 1:16:25.400 so I'm very interested in seeing what they come up with, 1:16:25.560 --> 1:16:27.640 because a lot twenty four is ready to go. The 1:16:27.720 --> 1:16:30.280 other three are not because we have to build that 1:16:30.680 --> 1:16:33.840 parking underneath. But at least we're moving on it. And 1:16:33.960 --> 1:16:36.680 I share your frustration, but at least we're moving on it. 1:16:37.040 --> 1:16:40.240 You know, you do have to have the resources to 1:16:40.680 --> 1:16:43.400 move on some of the stuff, and COVID really took 1:16:43.439 --> 1:16:47.080 a hit on our restricted funds, particularly the parking fund 1:16:47.560 --> 1:16:49.920 and the tourism fund, and so we just need to 1:16:49.960 --> 1:16:52.280 recognize the reality of you know, at least we're in 1:16:52.320 --> 1:16:54.400 a good position now where we've got a report coming 1:16:54.479 --> 1:16:57.760 forward to the city and the county to talk about 1:16:57.800 --> 1:16:58.800 those last four lots. 1:16:59.040 --> 1:17:01.600 Yeah, and I get we have parking infrastrucure right around it. 1:17:01.920 --> 1:17:05.680 It'd be great the length of the project, though, what 1:17:05.800 --> 1:17:08.840 happens to businesses during the time when there are no events. 1:17:08.880 --> 1:17:10.320 If this is the site we go with, that's a 1:17:10.439 --> 1:17:12.960 factor that we don't have to worry about. And a 1:17:13.000 --> 1:17:14.439 few of the other sites, you know, the West End 1:17:15.120 --> 1:17:17.320 around where the casino is another one of the sites 1:17:17.320 --> 1:17:20.400 that are being evaluated. The CETV studio or town center 1:17:20.439 --> 1:17:22.479 garages maybe a little bit, but I mean this is 1:17:23.320 --> 1:17:25.640 this is the existing arena that goes away for what 1:17:26.160 --> 1:17:27.559 a couple of years, like we saw at the Duke 1:17:27.680 --> 1:17:30.280 Energy Convention Center. But that also impacts all the foot 1:17:30.280 --> 1:17:31.880 traffic to the banks. How do we work around that. 1:17:33.040 --> 1:17:36.479 Well, let's not forget that we've got other assets down there, 1:17:36.560 --> 1:17:39.200 never mind the stadiums, but also the music venue that 1:17:39.720 --> 1:17:43.519 was meant to bring year round entertainment and business to 1:17:43.600 --> 1:17:45.680 those retailers down there. I mean, that's part of the 1:17:45.720 --> 1:17:48.640 reason we pushed so hard for the music venue for 1:17:48.760 --> 1:17:52.120 that very reason. And so if this goes offline for 1:17:52.240 --> 1:17:55.280 a while, it is just like the convention center. Look, 1:17:55.640 --> 1:17:57.800 you go down, you go dark for a while, You 1:17:57.880 --> 1:18:01.000 make the investments, you make sure that end product is 1:18:01.360 --> 1:18:04.880 better and will draw more business than what we had previously, 1:18:05.000 --> 1:18:07.120 and in the end there is a benefit, and you 1:18:07.240 --> 1:18:09.880 do it as quickly as you can. And that's exactly 1:18:09.960 --> 1:18:12.120 what we did with the convention Center. And I would 1:18:12.160 --> 1:18:15.559 expect that's what it's this word to be cited there 1:18:16.240 --> 1:18:19.400 at that site, then I would expect the same thing 1:18:19.439 --> 1:18:19.960 to happen there. 1:18:20.320 --> 1:18:21.880 What do you do with the cyclones? For two years 1:18:22.040 --> 1:18:22.679 biggest tenant. 1:18:23.800 --> 1:18:25.800 I don't I don't know the answer to that. I mean, 1:18:25.840 --> 1:18:28.720 I'm not in the weeds like that. I'll admit I'm 1:18:28.800 --> 1:18:31.479 looking at the different options. I mean, let's not forget 1:18:31.560 --> 1:18:33.360 that we don't have the money to do this right now. 1:18:34.240 --> 1:18:37.479 So I've said this a million times, like this is 1:18:37.600 --> 1:18:40.000 on the radar, it's on the list. It's not at 1:18:40.040 --> 1:18:42.960 the top of my list because we are invested in 1:18:43.040 --> 1:18:46.639 the convention center renovation. We just finished up the Bengals deal. 1:18:47.000 --> 1:18:49.280 We've got a lot on our plate that are really 1:18:49.479 --> 1:18:52.719 really big projects. And so you know, while the arena, 1:18:53.160 --> 1:18:55.320 you know, conversation is important and we're part of it, 1:18:56.600 --> 1:19:00.600 we do not have financing in place to construct a 1:19:00.640 --> 1:19:03.600 new arena, so we we were missing a piece of 1:19:03.680 --> 1:19:04.479 this at the moment. 1:19:04.680 --> 1:19:04.880 Yeah. 1:19:04.960 --> 1:19:07.720 And the other thing too is it's what it's still 1:19:07.760 --> 1:19:11.639 be publicly owned but publicly funded because the environ entertainment 1:19:11.680 --> 1:19:15.160 owns it. But I'm here, like seventy percent investment, and 1:19:15.240 --> 1:19:17.240 then you know there's that, and then what about the 1:19:17.360 --> 1:19:19.560 private investment too. Those are pieces that still have to 1:19:19.600 --> 1:19:21.840 come together, right one hundred percent. 1:19:21.960 --> 1:19:24.960 Yeah, we're looking for a financial stack that makes sense 1:19:25.040 --> 1:19:28.479 because as you say it's privately owned right now, so 1:19:28.880 --> 1:19:31.639 I don't know is it is it public owned private owned? 1:19:31.800 --> 1:19:34.600 I mean, look, we have limited resources. I just you know, 1:19:34.720 --> 1:19:38.679 and so to assume that the county has the ability 1:19:38.760 --> 1:19:43.120 to step in here and renovates this is not realistic. 1:19:43.840 --> 1:19:46.920 You know, we are a partner in this, that we 1:19:47.040 --> 1:19:49.680 have limited resources, and I just want to emphasize that. 1:19:49.880 --> 1:19:52.200 So we are not where we need to be with 1:19:52.280 --> 1:19:54.200 a financial steck. We're looking at it. I mean, we've 1:19:54.240 --> 1:19:56.400 got experts looking at it. And so to answer your 1:19:56.479 --> 1:19:59.640 questions about public ownership private ownership, I don't know the 1:19:59.680 --> 1:20:02.000 answer of that because we haven't resolved that question. 1:20:02.840 --> 1:20:06.120 One of the big questions Commission President in east your 1:20:06.200 --> 1:20:08.400 house to ask would be, well you got to work 1:20:08.400 --> 1:20:10.439 with the city on this one too, And then often 1:20:10.520 --> 1:20:12.600 cases is I mean, I guess I just look at 1:20:12.680 --> 1:20:17.160 if we have peace between Israel and Palestine, I suppose 1:20:17.200 --> 1:20:19.080 that the city and the county can get along on 1:20:19.160 --> 1:20:21.960 some things. And what about the railroad money, That is 1:20:22.040 --> 1:20:24.120 something that the city has for infrastructure. I don't know 1:20:24.120 --> 1:20:27.080 if what applies here and that's the railroad sale. Proceeds 1:20:27.120 --> 1:20:29.160 in the railroad sale that would go just to infrastructure 1:20:29.160 --> 1:20:31.599 and roads in the city. I don't know if there's 1:20:32.680 --> 1:20:34.519 a carve out there or you're able to take some 1:20:34.600 --> 1:20:36.680 of those moneyes or not. Has that conversation been had 1:20:36.720 --> 1:20:37.519 at all with the city. 1:20:38.720 --> 1:20:41.960 Well, we're working very closely with the city on a 1:20:42.120 --> 1:20:44.320 number of projects, not the least of which is again 1:20:44.439 --> 1:20:48.000 mentioned center and the convention Center hotel, and so it's 1:20:48.080 --> 1:20:50.760 not the days of old where the county and the 1:20:50.800 --> 1:20:53.000 city are fighting with each other. That is not the case. 1:20:53.320 --> 1:20:55.799 I mean I have regular meetings with AaB and council 1:20:55.880 --> 1:20:58.640 members about a number of issues. So we are in 1:20:58.800 --> 1:21:02.320 good stead with the city. And my expectation is that 1:21:02.439 --> 1:21:05.519 any financial stack we come up with includes the city, 1:21:05.640 --> 1:21:08.800 the county, the private side, perhaps the state. I mean, 1:21:08.840 --> 1:21:11.599 we need to look at all options. It's an expensive proposal. 1:21:11.680 --> 1:21:14.920 We don't again we don't have those final numbers, but 1:21:15.200 --> 1:21:18.200 it's going to have to be a collaborative approach to. 1:21:18.240 --> 1:21:21.120 This and that's getting stuff done. Although you know, as 1:21:21.120 --> 1:21:23.360 I pointed out the beginning, Denise, I look at the 1:21:23.400 --> 1:21:26.760 empty vastness around the banks and still areas yet twenty years, 1:21:26.760 --> 1:21:29.519 two decades you have to be developed and on that 1:21:30.040 --> 1:21:32.400 we're talking about the Duke Energy Convention Center too, getting 1:21:32.439 --> 1:21:34.320 ready to open up, I think, you know, first quarter 1:21:34.360 --> 1:21:36.439 of the year and pretty soon it's going up. What 1:21:36.560 --> 1:21:37.320 happened to the hotel? 1:21:39.160 --> 1:21:42.200 Oh, it's well, so let's I want to be clear 1:21:42.240 --> 1:21:44.479 about that. What's left on the banks this will be 1:21:44.600 --> 1:21:48.200 private development. This is not going to be your government development. 1:21:48.360 --> 1:21:50.800 So we will look to the private side, and I 1:21:50.880 --> 1:21:53.120 think there's a lot of potential there because I think 1:21:53.200 --> 1:21:55.720 people do want to develop down there. Same with the 1:21:55.760 --> 1:22:00.600 host Headquarter hotel. It's a private development. There are incentives 1:22:00.680 --> 1:22:03.719 from the state, the city, the county in that deal 1:22:04.120 --> 1:22:06.639 to make sure that it happens. And that's moving along. 1:22:06.920 --> 1:22:09.280 So I don't know if you've seen the renderings, but 1:22:09.400 --> 1:22:12.920 they're pretty fantastic and it will allow us to have 1:22:13.120 --> 1:22:15.400 the room blocks that we need for the conventions that 1:22:15.439 --> 1:22:17.800 we're going to get because the convention center is so 1:22:17.880 --> 1:22:21.160 much better than it used to be and the apartment holdings. 1:22:21.280 --> 1:22:24.240 The group that is going to do that development just 1:22:24.320 --> 1:22:27.400 to the south of the convention center also has purchased 1:22:27.439 --> 1:22:31.280 the Wesson and so that is a great opportunity for 1:22:31.479 --> 1:22:34.360 us to not only have the seven hundred keys in 1:22:34.520 --> 1:22:37.360 the hotel, that's going to be new, but also utilize 1:22:37.400 --> 1:22:40.720 the wespons for those blocks. So it's a real opportunity. 1:22:40.760 --> 1:22:41.800 I'm very excited about that. 1:22:41.880 --> 1:22:44.320 How soon before we start. I haven't been down there 1:22:44.320 --> 1:22:45.639 in a while, so I don't have they done site 1:22:45.720 --> 1:22:48.519 work yet or if they got anything in yet. What's 1:22:48.560 --> 1:22:49.080 the timeline? 1:22:51.200 --> 1:22:54.920 I believe what's moving. I know that it's moving because 1:22:55.000 --> 1:22:57.400 I think some of these reports will be coming out. 1:22:57.720 --> 1:23:02.320 I think it's twenty twenty six, seven eight something like that. 1:23:02.479 --> 1:23:06.240 Remember it's a seven hundred key hotel, so the convention 1:23:06.360 --> 1:23:09.000 Center will come online far before that, and we've got 1:23:09.080 --> 1:23:11.519 capacity in the downtown hotels. 1:23:11.560 --> 1:23:11.680 Now. 1:23:11.960 --> 1:23:15.240 The key to that, or the Convention Center hotel is 1:23:15.840 --> 1:23:20.760 that they can be relegated for the conventions, and so 1:23:21.280 --> 1:23:23.320 a group that wants to come in and do conventions 1:23:23.360 --> 1:23:26.080 in Cincinnati won't have to have hotel rooms spread all 1:23:26.120 --> 1:23:29.200 all over the city. They'll be located right across the street. 1:23:29.240 --> 1:23:33.160 We'll have a skywalk over the street, and so that 1:23:33.320 --> 1:23:37.120 will really help, you know, kind of a turbocharge some 1:23:37.280 --> 1:23:38.240 of the conventions that are. 1:23:38.200 --> 1:23:39.680 Coming in all right, kind of got off on the 1:23:39.720 --> 1:23:41.400 weeds there, as I often knew because of my brain 1:23:41.560 --> 1:23:44.200 the add Denise, but you know high role Hamlin County 1:23:44.240 --> 1:23:47.240 Commission President in Eastreehouse, I'm with Slowney seven hundred WLW 1:23:47.439 --> 1:23:49.040 and kind of update there with the hotel and the 1:23:49.120 --> 1:23:51.960 convention center project where we're talking about the new arena. 1:23:52.160 --> 1:23:54.680 A story comes out that says MSA Sport has on 1:23:54.800 --> 1:23:56.960 their own dime re examined the current Heritage Bank site 1:23:56.960 --> 1:23:58.920 and said, you know what, we actually can make this work. 1:23:58.960 --> 1:24:00.800 We can put a new arena there, which opens up 1:24:00.840 --> 1:24:04.040 a host of other questions as well, namely shutting that 1:24:04.120 --> 1:24:05.640 thing down for a couple of years and what that 1:24:05.760 --> 1:24:08.160 looks like for the banks and how you pay for it, 1:24:08.280 --> 1:24:11.599 of course, are huge issues right now. So it sounds 1:24:11.640 --> 1:24:14.040 like we're way down the line here before timeline. You know, 1:24:14.120 --> 1:24:17.360 what time do we start making a final decision and 1:24:17.439 --> 1:24:20.600 picking a site in you know, specifically the financing and 1:24:20.920 --> 1:24:22.519 when do you see this coming together if at all? 1:24:24.160 --> 1:24:25.920 Well, I don't know if it all is an option, 1:24:26.160 --> 1:24:29.200 but I think I don't know. I mean, as I 1:24:29.280 --> 1:24:31.519 told you, you know from my vantage point. 1:24:31.560 --> 1:24:32.880 You know, I'm interested in this. 1:24:33.040 --> 1:24:35.360 I think it's a big deal for the city and 1:24:35.400 --> 1:24:38.240 the county, but I am not later focused on this 1:24:38.400 --> 1:24:41.760 because we've got so many other things that were invested in. 1:24:42.040 --> 1:24:45.360 But I know the ideas are moving forward. This new 1:24:46.040 --> 1:24:49.680 look at the riverfront property, you know, just just came out, 1:24:49.840 --> 1:24:53.439 so you know, we're still studying it. But the big 1:24:53.680 --> 1:24:55.880 elephant in the room is the financing. And I have 1:24:56.040 --> 1:24:59.160 not seen a financial stack that pays. 1:24:58.960 --> 1:25:02.439 For this, okay, So that's a long way down the line. 1:25:03.800 --> 1:25:06.000 And how much of a factor, too, is and this 1:25:06.120 --> 1:25:08.400 is more short term I think, because we're talking years. 1:25:09.760 --> 1:25:11.800 Is what's happening in the city. As I mentioned, the 1:25:11.840 --> 1:25:14.880 conflict in the city and the county. Sometimes often cases 1:25:14.920 --> 1:25:16.400 it teams here at odds with each other, at least 1:25:16.400 --> 1:25:19.479 from the public perspective. But I'm looking at the violence 1:25:19.520 --> 1:25:21.559 of the crime on Fountain Square and around the city. 1:25:21.720 --> 1:25:23.800 We've got a new convention center that's going to open up, 1:25:23.800 --> 1:25:25.320 We've got a hotel that's going to go in. We're 1:25:25.320 --> 1:25:27.760 talking about building a new arena and getting more people 1:25:27.840 --> 1:25:30.320 downtime at a time where people were testifying about moving 1:25:30.400 --> 1:25:34.360 out of downtown because of the violence. What kind of 1:25:34.479 --> 1:25:37.439 role does a county have in this and working along 1:25:37.479 --> 1:25:39.880 with the city. I know you've been kind of silent 1:25:39.920 --> 1:25:42.880 spectators on the sidelines, although Sheriff McGuffey is doing everything 1:25:42.920 --> 1:25:45.080 she can to enforce the laws of the city. But 1:25:45.720 --> 1:25:48.519 that's an area that's often not talked about between the 1:25:48.560 --> 1:25:51.080 city and the county, but clearly there's a overlay and 1:25:51.080 --> 1:25:52.400 the ven diagram of violence. 1:25:54.040 --> 1:25:56.640 Yeah, and when we do work with the city, and 1:25:56.720 --> 1:25:59.760 I have been in contact with a mayor and council member, 1:26:00.680 --> 1:26:02.920 the sheriff is the one that's our law and public 1:26:03.000 --> 1:26:06.360 safety person right at the county. And so if you'll 1:26:06.400 --> 1:26:10.240 recall back when there was an influx of violence, the 1:26:10.920 --> 1:26:13.679 sheriff for thirty days did to patrol like a sweep 1:26:14.160 --> 1:26:17.240 of Court Street. They you know, it's an overlap of 1:26:17.320 --> 1:26:20.200 what CPD was doing. And so she came in with 1:26:20.479 --> 1:26:23.920 her folks and said, Okay, we're going to take Court Street. 1:26:23.960 --> 1:26:26.320 We're going to get things under control up here. And 1:26:26.520 --> 1:26:28.920 so she did, and there was a partnership between the 1:26:28.960 --> 1:26:33.920 city and the county and so that ended, things got better. 1:26:34.320 --> 1:26:36.639 And so now I know the sheriff and the mayor 1:26:36.640 --> 1:26:39.800 are talking again about the counties roll in again, it's 1:26:39.880 --> 1:26:43.200 through the sheriff as to what that partnership will look 1:26:43.280 --> 1:26:45.720 like here. But you are correct. I mean, if we 1:26:46.040 --> 1:26:51.439 have continued violence in the city cores that obviously impacts 1:26:51.560 --> 1:26:54.320 all of what we're just talking about, whether it's on 1:26:54.400 --> 1:26:56.360 the banks or down a Fountain Square or you know, 1:26:56.479 --> 1:26:59.080 some of these iconic places in the city and in 1:26:59.160 --> 1:27:01.400 the county, and we need to get it under control. 1:27:01.760 --> 1:27:04.240 And so we are talking to the city. I know 1:27:04.360 --> 1:27:07.200 the sheriff importantly is talking to CPD to try to 1:27:07.200 --> 1:27:09.800 figure out what the best strategies are. It's a work 1:27:09.840 --> 1:27:14.000 in progress, but you know there, I heard some pretty 1:27:14.080 --> 1:27:17.320 strong language at the press conference yesterday, and so looking 1:27:17.400 --> 1:27:19.240 forward to our continued partnership there. 1:27:19.280 --> 1:27:21.120 Yeah, I don't get whether the partnership dissolved in the 1:27:21.200 --> 1:27:23.599 first place. And now it's like in Hindsight's twenty twenty 1:27:23.640 --> 1:27:25.360 goe boy, you could use more boots on the ground, 1:27:25.360 --> 1:27:28.320 We could use use sheriffs controls in certain areas here, 1:27:28.360 --> 1:27:30.120 and now we've got slot officers standard. It's not a 1:27:30.120 --> 1:27:31.960 good look for the city as we try to build 1:27:31.960 --> 1:27:33.560 a nice new shiny things to keep them from the 1:27:33.600 --> 1:27:34.320 outside coming in. 1:27:35.520 --> 1:27:37.760 Yeah, well, let me just clarify that. You know, the 1:27:37.880 --> 1:27:40.400 city asked us to come in for a month to 1:27:40.520 --> 1:27:43.360 do this work, and so that's exactly what the sheriff did, right, 1:27:43.840 --> 1:27:45.760 And some of it is just a matter of you know, 1:27:45.840 --> 1:27:49.800 finances and resources because it's really CPD's territory. I mean, 1:27:49.840 --> 1:27:52.919 the sheriff is coming in to a territory that CPDS 1:27:53.000 --> 1:27:56.680 happily helping to do that. But there it has to 1:27:56.760 --> 1:27:58.400 be if we're going to have a long term arrangement, 1:27:58.439 --> 1:28:01.640 we have to figure that out. That'll include some resources 1:28:01.680 --> 1:28:03.760 from the city, from the county. And so if that's 1:28:03.840 --> 1:28:06.519 the goal, then something we're open to talking about. That 1:28:06.720 --> 1:28:09.520 was not what we were asked to do, for my understanding, 1:28:09.800 --> 1:28:11.600 and so the sheriff of which she was asked to do. 1:28:12.680 --> 1:28:15.599 And so now you know there's a continued conversation with her, 1:28:15.840 --> 1:28:18.479 and there are other actors and all of this. Can 1:28:18.520 --> 1:28:20.880 I back up and say one thing I forgot to mention, 1:28:21.320 --> 1:28:23.960 and it's on a more positive note. Over at the 1:28:24.040 --> 1:28:27.080 convention center, So the convention Center is being redone at 1:28:27.080 --> 1:28:30.040 the city County County partnership. A hotel will go just 1:28:30.120 --> 1:28:32.439 to the south. Let's not forget about the property to 1:28:32.479 --> 1:28:34.880 the east where the Millennium used to sty Oh yeah, 1:28:35.160 --> 1:28:38.920 I remember the Millennium hotel. County invested there got that 1:28:39.040 --> 1:28:42.599 under control to get down that space is this big 1:28:42.920 --> 1:28:46.040 green space that we are going to be programming and 1:28:46.360 --> 1:28:51.439 it allows us to program stuff that convention stuff that 1:28:51.479 --> 1:28:54.560 would otherwise be in a building, but move it outside. 1:28:54.960 --> 1:28:57.920 And this is something that is a trend in the market. 1:28:58.280 --> 1:29:01.320 I'm super excited there. We're way ahead of the trends 1:29:01.320 --> 1:29:05.200 here and to use that for programmable space for conferences 1:29:05.360 --> 1:29:09.200 and sessions, but also for social events, it's going to 1:29:09.320 --> 1:29:12.400 be a real game changer for the convention center. 1:29:12.800 --> 1:29:15.479 She is Hamlin County Commissioned President Denise Dreehouse on the 1:29:15.520 --> 1:29:18.240 show this morning and talking about the arena site and 1:29:18.320 --> 1:29:20.080 Heritage Bank Center and that may be the spot where 1:29:20.120 --> 1:29:21.360 we put a new arena on top of the old 1:29:21.400 --> 1:29:23.160 one and what that all means. And that's a little 1:29:23.160 --> 1:29:24.600 bit down the line, but I appreciate it coming on 1:29:24.720 --> 1:29:26.559 this morning and then laying that out for us. Denise. 1:29:26.800 --> 1:29:28.519 I'm glad you're well and we'll talk again soon. 1:29:29.000 --> 1:29:30.280 Yeah, thank you, Scott. I appreciate it. 1:29:30.320 --> 1:29:32.559 Appreciate it. We'll get to a news update and more 1:29:32.600 --> 1:29:35.040 to follow. Sarah release and the Snort report stands by 1:29:35.120 --> 1:29:38.200 Next Bengals and Thursday Night Football in Town at pay 1:29:38.240 --> 1:29:40.679 court to tomorrow night light it up here seven hundred 1:29:57.120 --> 1:29:59.920 so long, it feels like it's been so long. 1:30:01.479 --> 1:30:04.160 How are you well, you're the one who's crippled. 1:30:04.240 --> 1:30:07.120 How are you share? Relisa snort report? She comes over 1:30:07.200 --> 1:30:09.679 from one of two seven EBM. That's where import her from. 1:30:09.760 --> 1:30:12.479 And then she comes and snort your way through sports 1:30:12.520 --> 1:30:14.200 and Wednesday mornings and such. 1:30:15.680 --> 1:30:16.160 Here with you. 1:30:16.520 --> 1:30:18.840 It's been been a while. What do we do? Last 1:30:18.880 --> 1:30:21.200 got the crutches? I got crutches. One more week. I 1:30:21.280 --> 1:30:24.160 think next Tuesday the crutches should go bye bye and. 1:30:24.200 --> 1:30:29.000 You'll be walking around again. I missed the scooter. Yeah, selfishly, 1:30:29.080 --> 1:30:30.960 I liked riding around on it like I was the 1:30:31.040 --> 1:30:31.840 dude from Soul. 1:30:33.080 --> 1:30:36.040 And she's she's been driving me around like to work 1:30:36.080 --> 1:30:36.960 every morning for two weeks. 1:30:37.520 --> 1:30:38.880 She's your personal uber. 1:30:39.120 --> 1:30:41.200 Yeah, but I'm like, you know what, I probably can 1:30:41.280 --> 1:30:44.639 get the crutches instead of the scooter and that's fine. 1:30:44.720 --> 1:30:46.360 And one more week and week? 1:30:46.479 --> 1:30:47.960 Yeah? Yeah, yeah, good is new? 1:30:48.080 --> 1:30:48.200 Right? 1:30:48.240 --> 1:30:49.920 I heard anything like that? So I think I'm ready 1:30:49.960 --> 1:30:51.320 to go, but I don't want to push it till. 1:30:51.439 --> 1:30:53.800 And that's what happens is once you start to feel good, 1:30:53.840 --> 1:30:55.680 you're like, oh, I'm going to go run a marathon 1:30:56.080 --> 1:30:57.280 and then you're back and good. 1:30:57.320 --> 1:30:59.240 I still have the boot and the crutches, so I 1:30:59.320 --> 1:31:01.000 got it. I'm gonna good boy, I'm gonna wait till 1:31:01.000 --> 1:31:04.000 my my doc. Doctor Baker says, let's go. 1:31:04.280 --> 1:31:07.719 Well, this is the time for the older gentlemen because 1:31:07.880 --> 1:31:12.040 we are getting ready for the icy hot bulls. 1:31:14.400 --> 1:31:14.920 And a little bit. 1:31:14.960 --> 1:31:17.719 I'm gonna share some of the comments on social media 1:31:17.840 --> 1:31:20.880 because it is so funny. So we know Aaron Rodgers 1:31:20.960 --> 1:31:25.479 being forty one, Joe Flacco forty years old, which I'm 1:31:25.520 --> 1:31:28.320 not too far from these guys. So all the older 1:31:28.400 --> 1:31:31.320 people comments kind has me a little triggered. 1:31:32.439 --> 1:31:34.320 Well it should be, got of triggered a little bit. 1:31:35.640 --> 1:31:36.920 I'm like, hey, I'm not far from that. 1:31:37.120 --> 1:31:38.519 Well, the funny part is at my side. 1:31:38.560 --> 1:31:41.800 It's like, forty forty still young, right for you? You're like, 1:31:42.280 --> 1:31:45.320 kill me forty forty. But it is kind of ironic 1:31:45.439 --> 1:31:47.080 that you got the older dudes out there and you 1:31:47.160 --> 1:31:49.320 got the young guys in a boot like yourself. 1:31:49.520 --> 1:31:52.920 Yeah, walking around Burrow with um must up toe. You 1:31:53.000 --> 1:31:54.320 feel about tomorrow night? 1:31:54.880 --> 1:31:55.200 You know what? 1:31:55.320 --> 1:31:59.400 I'm excited. I'm excited. I feel optimistic about it. 1:31:59.560 --> 1:32:00.880 What makes you feel optimistic? 1:32:01.360 --> 1:32:03.320 You know what, Joe Flacco looked really good in that 1:32:03.479 --> 1:32:06.400 second halfened Green Bay. I feel like he finally settled in. 1:32:06.720 --> 1:32:08.800 I mean, look, you got to give you got to 1:32:08.840 --> 1:32:11.800 give the guy some credit. It was a very last 1:32:11.960 --> 1:32:14.880 minute notice to get that call to go to Cincinnati. 1:32:15.000 --> 1:32:17.479 He had maybe two days to practice with the team, 1:32:18.280 --> 1:32:20.160 and it was on a plane to Green Bay and 1:32:20.280 --> 1:32:23.120 you're you're doing You're battling it out at Lambeau, which 1:32:23.200 --> 1:32:26.639 is also a really hard place to play. Head coach 1:32:26.760 --> 1:32:28.800 Zac Taylor and his presser the other day he goes, look, 1:32:29.320 --> 1:32:32.200 Joe didn't even know the names of most of the 1:32:32.240 --> 1:32:35.160 guys on the team yet. He's still trying to settle in. 1:32:35.280 --> 1:32:37.560 But Flo has done this a little bit, so he's like, 1:32:38.439 --> 1:32:41.439 this is not his first roads. Like he's seen pretty 1:32:41.479 --> 1:32:43.120 much off of every offensive scheme that you. 1:32:43.160 --> 1:32:46.439 Can He's set up pretty much the entire AFC North. 1:32:47.160 --> 1:32:49.320 He could be with the Steelers by the time this 1:32:49.439 --> 1:32:51.519 season's over and Joe Burrow is back on the. 1:32:51.520 --> 1:32:56.479 Field, right because if something happens to a rod right now, 1:32:56.560 --> 1:32:58.639 you're thinking now, you're thinking, so I'll. 1:32:58.520 --> 1:33:00.720 Be there tomorrow night with my dad. We never miss 1:33:01.200 --> 1:33:04.160 the Bengals Steelers game. This is one we always look 1:33:04.200 --> 1:33:05.960 forward to, no matter who the quarterback is. 1:33:06.040 --> 1:33:06.760 We've seen it all. 1:33:07.360 --> 1:33:09.439 Unfortunately, we've seen too many losses. 1:33:09.720 --> 1:33:12.080 I think it's that again. I think here's the problem 1:33:12.120 --> 1:33:13.840 right the offensive line. Okay, there's some work to do 1:33:13.920 --> 1:33:16.559 there obviously, still and he you know, they kept them upright, 1:33:16.640 --> 1:33:19.240 which is a great thing. Maybe different to get the Steelers, but. 1:33:19.520 --> 1:33:21.519 I actually had what one sack last year? 1:33:21.560 --> 1:33:23.240 But the last problem is it damn you know? Okay, 1:33:23.320 --> 1:33:24.640 the offense showed them in the second half, but the 1:33:24.680 --> 1:33:25.479 defense fall apart. 1:33:26.320 --> 1:33:29.559 Can we just have it all? Please? And what about 1:33:29.640 --> 1:33:32.559 Moneymack with Like the sixty seven yarder that didn't count. 1:33:32.360 --> 1:33:34.680 In my head on my back thing in the entire game. 1:33:35.120 --> 1:33:37.439 I looked at my husband, I said, you know, when 1:33:37.479 --> 1:33:39.000 it does count, he's not going to make it. 1:33:39.120 --> 1:33:41.240 Of course not that's a hard sixty seven is a 1:33:41.280 --> 1:33:44.679 big ask. Like that's the whole field again, Bengal luck 1:33:44.760 --> 1:33:46.120 working against us in this case. 1:33:46.520 --> 1:33:48.240 This is I feel about tomorrow night? 1:33:51.200 --> 1:33:51.920 Do you want? 1:33:52.400 --> 1:33:54.599 I mean? I okay, look at okay, you got Joe Flacco. 1:33:54.640 --> 1:33:57.280 He's hitting some of the guy. Okay, can you outscore Pittsburgh. 1:33:57.320 --> 1:34:00.600 At this point, I just the defense show no Like 1:34:00.920 --> 1:34:03.080 I'll be honest with you, I haven't seen damn thing 1:34:03.120 --> 1:34:04.720 out of the defense. It makes me think that they 1:34:04.800 --> 1:34:06.680 can carry this team into the fourth quarter. That's what 1:34:06.760 --> 1:34:08.920 scares me about it, because I think Pittsburgh just smash mouth. 1:34:08.920 --> 1:34:10.519 They're going to come in and I think it's going 1:34:10.560 --> 1:34:12.599 to be close in it maybe another Green Bay situation. 1:34:12.920 --> 1:34:14.320 I think it is going to be a close game. 1:34:14.680 --> 1:34:16.800 I have no idea what's going to happen tomorrow night. 1:34:17.000 --> 1:34:18.960 I feel like every time you gotta win, I mean, 1:34:19.000 --> 1:34:19.320 this is it. 1:34:19.560 --> 1:34:21.400 Every time it's a surprise. But yes, this is a 1:34:21.520 --> 1:34:23.640 must win situation if you want to try to keep 1:34:23.720 --> 1:34:26.400 up in the AFC North, Yep, take advantage of how 1:34:26.520 --> 1:34:28.599 bad the Browns and the Ravens are doing. 1:34:29.560 --> 1:34:32.240 Take advantage of that, right, full advantage. It's gonna be 1:34:32.280 --> 1:34:35.240 tough to catch Pittsburgh, but you get it because you 1:34:35.240 --> 1:34:37.080 got at Pittsburgh. It's yeah, it's kind of then. 1:34:36.960 --> 1:34:40.000 You and then you've got ten days off to get 1:34:40.040 --> 1:34:42.400 it together with your new QB. So this really is 1:34:42.439 --> 1:34:43.680 a must win for the bast. 1:34:43.840 --> 1:34:44.960 You gotta come out and you go to that buy 1:34:45.000 --> 1:34:46.959 of the win, half the win. This must win otherwise. 1:34:47.280 --> 1:34:48.439 I don't know how they I don't know how they 1:34:48.479 --> 1:34:48.880 pull it off. 1:34:48.960 --> 1:34:50.760 I don't know how you keep up in the conversation. 1:34:51.000 --> 1:34:53.320 You do. I don't want this to be a four 1:34:53.400 --> 1:34:53.960 win season. 1:34:54.000 --> 1:34:54.800 Okay, please? 1:34:55.640 --> 1:34:55.960 But yeah. 1:34:56.000 --> 1:35:00.120 With Aaron Rodgers being forty one Flak being forty, this 1:35:00.280 --> 1:35:04.280 is just the second matchup of starting QB's forty or 1:35:04.520 --> 1:35:08.320 older in NFL history, So we're witnessing. 1:35:09.439 --> 1:35:10.400 This is great for you. 1:35:10.800 --> 1:35:13.439 I am so excited for this. Okay, I think this 1:35:13.680 --> 1:35:17.080 is great. The comments are hilarious. But Tom Brady and 1:35:17.160 --> 1:35:19.880 Drew Brees the last one is to do it back 1:35:19.920 --> 1:35:24.160 in twenty twenty, So get ready for history. Baby. This 1:35:24.320 --> 1:35:24.679 is fun. 1:35:24.840 --> 1:35:27.360 This historic. Did they take a nap at halftime? There's 1:35:27.400 --> 1:35:28.200 like a five minute too. 1:35:28.320 --> 1:35:29.519 That's what I was going to get to. So some 1:35:29.640 --> 1:35:32.599 of the comments under the post this is the battle 1:35:32.680 --> 1:35:36.320 of the Granddaddy's. Oh my gosh, I feel so old. 1:35:39.400 --> 1:35:42.320 Instead of a sideline reporter, put a staff of nurses 1:35:42.400 --> 1:35:46.320 out there. A few other ones this game should be 1:35:46.400 --> 1:35:52.599 sponsored by AARP, calling it the Geriatric Bowl. Someone said 1:35:52.680 --> 1:35:55.280 eight point fifteen is too late of a start for 1:35:55.479 --> 1:35:57.400 guys that are in bed by seven. 1:35:57.560 --> 1:36:00.360 Oh my god, you can't do that. He should be 1:36:00.400 --> 1:36:01.280 playing the London game. 1:36:01.439 --> 1:36:05.040 Look, we just at the morning. I want to sit 1:36:05.080 --> 1:36:07.240 there with my Cinne bums and watch the daddies go 1:36:07.360 --> 1:36:09.959 at it. Yeah, I'm excited. 1:36:10.040 --> 1:36:10.320 I don't know. 1:36:10.360 --> 1:36:12.840 I'll be there with my dad. We just laugh to 1:36:12.920 --> 1:36:14.200 keep him crying. That's what happens. 1:36:14.600 --> 1:36:16.320 That's all you can do is as a Bengals fan, 1:36:16.520 --> 1:36:18.200 because at this point will be going how many days? 1:36:18.360 --> 1:36:20.519 If they lose tomorrow, it's how many days till opening day? 1:36:21.000 --> 1:36:21.080 Oh? 1:36:21.200 --> 1:36:22.880 Mike, what are we at one fifty? I don't know 1:36:23.000 --> 1:36:25.360 something like that. We've got Reds Fest in January. That's 1:36:25.360 --> 1:36:26.240 something to look forward to. 1:36:26.400 --> 1:36:31.000 The dude, Pittsburgh. All teams beat Pittsburgh. 1:36:31.400 --> 1:36:36.839 I said, must win. Some positive news, how golden. Yesterday 1:36:36.920 --> 1:36:40.200 talking to media our defensive coordinator, he said that Shamar 1:36:40.320 --> 1:36:43.720 Stewart finally back. Remember he went down week two with 1:36:43.800 --> 1:36:45.640 that ankle injury. I know we're all kind of like, 1:36:45.720 --> 1:36:47.080 who's Schamar's Stewart? 1:36:47.600 --> 1:36:48.639 What happened to him? 1:36:50.160 --> 1:36:50.200 So? 1:36:50.320 --> 1:36:53.920 Anyways, he's back. Not sure what's going to go down 1:36:54.000 --> 1:36:57.360 with Trey Hendrickson dealing with a bad back injury. I 1:36:57.600 --> 1:36:58.839 think he's playing tomorrow. 1:36:59.040 --> 1:36:59.360 We think. 1:36:59.640 --> 1:37:02.320 I think we'll see him there minutes before kickoff, right, 1:37:02.439 --> 1:37:04.960 Zach Taylor will say, uh, hey, by the way, he'll 1:37:04.960 --> 1:37:05.280 be out there. 1:37:05.840 --> 1:37:07.200 We will see Stewart tomorrow. 1:37:07.560 --> 1:37:08.800 That's what Al Golden is saying. 1:37:08.840 --> 1:37:11.880 Okay, that'll be big. He needs a He looked good 1:37:11.920 --> 1:37:14.560 in the limited starts he had. But yeah, getting some 1:37:14.600 --> 1:37:16.599 guy's healthy, Gaina back there, that's going to help tremendously. 1:37:16.880 --> 1:37:21.120 I think so Logan Wilson or yeah, Logan Wilson had 1:37:21.160 --> 1:37:23.800 talked to media yesterday about getting benched for that Green 1:37:23.880 --> 1:37:24.240 Bay game. 1:37:24.360 --> 1:37:26.960 Talk about old. There's your guy getting old. That's what 1:37:27.040 --> 1:37:27.240 it is. 1:37:27.479 --> 1:37:30.240 He's not old, he's not even thirty. 1:37:29.960 --> 1:37:33.639 Okay, but he doesn't look the same Zack. Looking old 1:37:33.680 --> 1:37:34.960 and feeling old are two differentings. 1:37:35.200 --> 1:37:38.160 I understand that. Unfortunately, I'm going through both. I know 1:37:38.360 --> 1:37:39.800 I'm looking old, I'm feeling old. 1:37:39.840 --> 1:37:44.920 I'm not doing okay looking old, Sarah. Feeling old like so. 1:37:45.000 --> 1:37:47.920 Many needles you can put in my face, and needles 1:37:47.960 --> 1:37:50.120 into your ankle and your foot and your knee and 1:37:50.200 --> 1:37:53.439 your clder and everything. You're doing it, You're going to 1:37:53.479 --> 1:37:55.640 be like Joe Burrow, like a whole robotic. 1:37:55.400 --> 1:37:57.080 I'm doing it. You feel better. You do it to 1:37:57.120 --> 1:37:59.200 look better. Those are two different types of procedures. 1:37:59.240 --> 1:38:03.200 Hey, when you look good, you feel good, feel good, Okay, good, Yeah. 1:38:03.200 --> 1:38:06.880 Don't overdo it. Don't turn into plastic surgery mass. You're 1:38:06.880 --> 1:38:07.360 not going to do that. 1:38:07.439 --> 1:38:08.439 Are you going to afford to do that? 1:38:08.800 --> 1:38:09.720 It's probably a good thing. 1:38:10.040 --> 1:38:10.280 I know. 1:38:11.320 --> 1:38:13.080 God's like, I'm going to keep you poor, so you 1:38:13.120 --> 1:38:13.559 don't get. 1:38:14.280 --> 1:38:16.840 Had plastic surgery in their thirties and forties, but then 1:38:16.880 --> 1:38:18.719 they're fifty, they look like the scream masks. 1:38:18.800 --> 1:38:22.439 Oh look yeah, you only want the screen mask for 1:38:22.520 --> 1:38:26.040 one day out of the year for folloween so but yeah. 1:38:26.120 --> 1:38:28.840 So Logan Wilson he had talked to media about getting bench. 1:38:28.920 --> 1:38:30.479 She said, I can look back at this time of 1:38:31.000 --> 1:38:32.880 adversity and be able to tell my kids how to 1:38:33.000 --> 1:38:35.479 work through It. Looks like the Bengals are going to 1:38:35.479 --> 1:38:41.760 be starting Barrett Barrett Carter. So he told Barrett that 1:38:41.800 --> 1:38:43.280 he wants to help him out in any way. There's 1:38:43.320 --> 1:38:46.040 no hard feelings about anything. Logan Wilson handling it like 1:38:46.080 --> 1:38:49.200 a true pro and Barrett said nothing but love and 1:38:49.400 --> 1:38:50.839 respect for Logan Wilson. 1:38:51.439 --> 1:38:52.120 So there you go. 1:38:53.160 --> 1:38:55.200 That's what's trending with our Bengals. 1:38:55.439 --> 1:38:58.840 Okay, and I saw the Thursday football teams are in 1:38:58.920 --> 1:39:01.559 town already getting the paycore ready to go. Yeah, that's 1:39:01.600 --> 1:39:04.000 great under the lights. The weather's gonna be phenomenal. 1:39:04.160 --> 1:39:07.879 Oh, it's gonna feel like football weather. It's gonna be gorgeous. 1:39:07.920 --> 1:39:09.080 It's a bag white out. 1:39:09.680 --> 1:39:09.880 Yeah. 1:39:09.920 --> 1:39:12.439 The team had a late night practice. They actually had 1:39:12.479 --> 1:39:14.759 it at paycor Stadium last night and they were getting 1:39:14.800 --> 1:39:17.679 the white out ready. So go check out the Bengals 1:39:17.720 --> 1:39:18.760 social media for that. 1:39:18.880 --> 1:39:19.400 They've got like. 1:39:19.920 --> 1:39:23.400 White and black tiger striped walls up against the you know, 1:39:23.479 --> 1:39:26.000 around the whole field. It looks really cool. So if 1:39:26.040 --> 1:39:28.000 you look cool, you're gonna play cool, right, all right? 1:39:28.160 --> 1:39:31.040 Even in the icy hot Bowl. The Bengals did't announce 1:39:31.080 --> 1:39:33.640 the other day that the ruler of the Jungle is 1:39:33.760 --> 1:39:37.760 going to be Andrew Whitworth. He kind of gives the 1:39:37.840 --> 1:39:41.479 Bengals a hard time. Do I love? 1:39:41.720 --> 1:39:41.920 Yeah? 1:39:42.560 --> 1:39:43.400 And I think that's okay. 1:39:43.520 --> 1:39:44.360 You can be both. 1:39:44.479 --> 1:39:46.439 You can be a fan and you can also give 1:39:46.479 --> 1:39:48.840 your team a hard time. I think it should be 1:39:49.040 --> 1:39:50.040 like that all right. 1:39:50.720 --> 1:39:50.840 Now. 1:39:50.880 --> 1:39:54.280 The big question is can he suit up? No, can 1:39:54.360 --> 1:39:57.040 we put him out there. It's not the injuries on 1:39:57.080 --> 1:39:59.200 the field. It's the injuries like at Fountain Square, anybody 1:39:59.240 --> 1:39:59.719 gets shot. 1:40:00.880 --> 1:40:01.800 Why would you go there? 1:40:02.479 --> 1:40:04.120 Because that's the big story today. 1:40:04.240 --> 1:40:06.320 Did you see that they're gonna have police and swats 1:40:06.360 --> 1:40:07.599 it up front two pm? 1:40:07.680 --> 1:40:10.920 To the National Guard? Here, we can't have the National Guard. 1:40:11.000 --> 1:40:13.880 It looks it's terribly you got these uniform paramilitary troopers. 1:40:13.920 --> 1:40:15.559 By the way, we're gonna have swat officers. I think 1:40:15.640 --> 1:40:17.639 to the untrained eye, you look at a swat officer 1:40:17.680 --> 1:40:19.000 and you look at it, we kind of freak out 1:40:19.000 --> 1:40:20.719 a little round. Well, you look at the National guardsman, 1:40:20.960 --> 1:40:23.840 I know the difference between the two obviously, but when 1:40:24.560 --> 1:40:26.120 for the amatursity you look at it go, I don't know. 1:40:26.200 --> 1:40:28.120 It's a guy that's just in tactical gear with them 1:40:28.120 --> 1:40:29.960 the sult type or right full and a helmet on. 1:40:30.080 --> 1:40:32.720 It's like, what whether it's the National Garden, it's the 1:40:32.760 --> 1:40:35.160 same thing. And you're still not leaning into having the 1:40:35.200 --> 1:40:39.000 troopers come down, State troopers and and that whole thing. 1:40:39.040 --> 1:40:41.160 It's like it's just more of the same. It's like 1:40:41.200 --> 1:40:43.280 you could see this coming because they just slow played 1:40:43.320 --> 1:40:45.120 the whole thing going Okay, well we'll try a little more. 1:40:45.280 --> 1:40:46.599 How are the curfews working out? 1:40:46.640 --> 1:40:49.040 And how's it's it's not the curfew thing is not 1:40:49.200 --> 1:40:53.519 working Yeah, clearly. And you know it's bad when Jeff 1:40:53.560 --> 1:40:57.559 Ruby's releases the presser and starts making. 1:40:57.439 --> 1:41:02.240 Moves, start making taking Olympika out. Oohlim on, Tom properties, 1:41:02.280 --> 1:41:03.560 I guess I get that, but it's like it's a 1:41:03.600 --> 1:41:06.000 safety issue and we're moving it to Walnut and correct. 1:41:06.080 --> 1:41:08.360 Tell you what, you have more bullets flying and Fountain Square, 1:41:08.560 --> 1:41:10.920 that nice shiny rubies you're eating at They're gonna move. 1:41:11.160 --> 1:41:14.479 Can you imagine? And we don't want them, do you imagine? No, 1:41:14.760 --> 1:41:17.839 the flagship restaurant for the culinary experience in Cincinnati. 1:41:17.960 --> 1:41:20.040 Britney Ruby is my mayor of Cincinnati. 1:41:20.240 --> 1:41:21.320 Is she pulls out of there? 1:41:21.800 --> 1:41:24.519 Oh we're done. We don't want that to happen. That 1:41:24.640 --> 1:41:27.679 is a beautiful restaurant. Oh you're right around the corner. 1:41:27.720 --> 1:41:29.760 You've got the lighting of the Christmas tree coming up. 1:41:29.800 --> 1:41:32.000 You've got all you know, the ice skating coming like, 1:41:32.080 --> 1:41:33.360 let's come on, get it together. 1:41:33.439 --> 1:41:35.439 Well, you got this clown that just keeps going. Well, 1:41:35.520 --> 1:41:37.720 you know, we got a little more, you know, more 1:41:37.800 --> 1:41:39.840 hands on. We need more programs, and this is what 1:41:39.960 --> 1:41:42.759 happens when you just let sociopaths run the streets unchecked. 1:41:43.040 --> 1:41:46.200 An eight o'clock shooting on a Monday night, right right 1:41:46.240 --> 1:41:50.160 outside of Jeff Ruby's not good, Ballsy not good. And 1:41:50.280 --> 1:41:54.640 it's not just the teenagers. Now, these were twenty year 1:41:54.680 --> 1:41:57.400 olds that were involved. Yeah, a couple of teens, a 1:41:57.439 --> 1:41:59.560 twenty four year old dude. And they're still looking for 1:41:59.640 --> 1:42:03.360 the GODI, the big guy. Uh huh, looking for Biggie Smalls. 1:42:05.120 --> 1:42:07.400 That video was triggering. They released that the other night. 1:42:09.160 --> 1:42:12.000 I don't know this, this fat guy. That's the streets. 1:42:12.200 --> 1:42:14.160 The guy couldn't have gone to Maybe you want to 1:42:14.200 --> 1:42:15.200 stake out a drive through. 1:42:19.320 --> 1:42:22.040 But yeah, there's a lot going on in Cincinnati. Uh 1:42:22.160 --> 1:42:24.400 this weekend. You know, You've got the Bengals tomorrow night, 1:42:24.520 --> 1:42:28.280 and then FC Cincinnati for their fan appreciation night at 1:42:28.320 --> 1:42:31.080 t Q well, and then Cyclones hockey is back on 1:42:31.200 --> 1:42:35.679 Saturday night. And guess who's sounding the siren? Your husband, 1:42:35.840 --> 1:42:39.000 our girl Tiff Potter, she is, Yes, I will be 1:42:39.080 --> 1:42:41.599 there with her on Saturday night. She got a job fast, 1:42:41.720 --> 1:42:44.840 I know, sounding the siren for the Cincinnati Cyclones for 1:42:45.000 --> 1:42:47.880 the first face off. Yeah, it'll be a good time. 1:42:47.800 --> 1:42:49.439 All right, good, well, she needs to get out and 1:42:49.520 --> 1:42:52.960 have some fun after the reduction and force. 1:42:53.280 --> 1:42:58.479 Unfortunately, yes, we very much. But she's gonna land on 1:42:58.560 --> 1:43:00.360 her feet on shore and do great things. 1:43:00.760 --> 1:43:02.720 That's the nature of our economy these days. 1:43:02.800 --> 1:43:05.040 Go out and support our cyclones and our girl tiff 1:43:05.080 --> 1:43:05.559 on Saturday. 1:43:05.600 --> 1:43:07.360 What are you gonna do? I just had Denise Treehouse. 1:43:07.400 --> 1:43:08.640 I don't know if you heard that at all, but 1:43:08.760 --> 1:43:10.640 the shoes talking about the arena. They want to put 1:43:10.680 --> 1:43:12.320 the arena on top of the old arena. Now that 1:43:12.439 --> 1:43:14.000 that's open. I want to her lean on that because 1:43:14.000 --> 1:43:15.439 that sounds like that was off the table. How are 1:43:15.439 --> 1:43:15.800 we going to do? 1:43:15.960 --> 1:43:16.000 So? 1:43:16.080 --> 1:43:17.320 What are you going to do with the cyclones? If 1:43:17.320 --> 1:43:18.840 they shut the they blow the arena up and it's 1:43:18.840 --> 1:43:20.200 closed for two years, what are they gonna play? 1:43:20.760 --> 1:43:22.320 I guess they could take over. 1:43:22.600 --> 1:43:27.439 Or would they go to Kentucky? I probably would you play? 1:43:27.439 --> 1:43:29.000 You can't plan. I'm thinking where you played like Sports 1:43:29.040 --> 1:43:30.760 Plus had never hold it or North lond It's not 1:43:31.040 --> 1:43:33.200 you're not gonna get seating there. So whatd it have 1:43:33.320 --> 1:43:33.680 to be at? 1:43:33.800 --> 1:43:33.920 Uh? 1:43:34.080 --> 1:43:36.960 Yeah, because they sent ten thousand heritage so they have 1:43:37.040 --> 1:43:40.240 ice capacity at Northern Kentucky. You can lay some lice, 1:43:40.880 --> 1:43:42.000 lay some ice anywhere. 1:43:42.000 --> 1:43:43.880 I guess you can. You need a refrigeration. I mean, 1:43:43.880 --> 1:43:45.160 I guess you could do a raise thing like they 1:43:45.240 --> 1:43:46.920 do for the Winter Classic. But I don't know how 1:43:46.960 --> 1:43:48.960 you freeze that if there's no Well. 1:43:48.880 --> 1:43:51.200 The arena managers, well, I guess they put everything on 1:43:51.320 --> 1:43:54.000 top of ice constantly for concerts and comedians. 1:43:54.400 --> 1:43:57.519 But the ice, the the integration for the ice is 1:43:57.560 --> 1:43:59.479 below the surface too. He's gonna have to refrigerate it. 1:43:59.520 --> 1:44:00.880 So I don't know if a floating I don't know 1:44:00.920 --> 1:44:01.320 how they do it. 1:44:01.400 --> 1:44:02.080 Yeah, I don't know either. 1:44:02.160 --> 1:44:03.640 I have to be Northern Kentucky if they do it. 1:44:03.680 --> 1:44:07.400 But that's interesting anyway, Go to Dayton, Send them up 1:44:07.439 --> 1:44:08.639 to Dayton, Google play there. 1:44:08.800 --> 1:44:09.800 Selfishly, I don't want that. 1:44:09.960 --> 1:44:11.080 Yeah, it's kind of a drunk right now. 1:44:11.120 --> 1:44:13.439 I'm a mile away, so I'm like stick around here 1:44:13.560 --> 1:44:16.440 somehow find out. But they do deserve a new arena. 1:44:16.200 --> 1:44:18.200 All right, snorts. Give me a prediction for tomorrow. What 1:44:18.240 --> 1:44:20.680 do you got, Bengals? Oh my gosh, I think it's 1:44:21.280 --> 1:44:23.760 too Steelers six. Is that what you're going with? 1:44:24.120 --> 1:44:24.160 No? 1:44:24.800 --> 1:44:29.559 Oh my gosh, twenty seventeen, Bengals twenty seventeen Moneymack twenty 1:44:29.600 --> 1:44:32.360 seventeen at the end to win it a sixty seven yarder. 1:44:32.479 --> 1:44:36.840 All right, what do you think I think it's gonna 1:44:36.840 --> 1:44:37.720 be ready for this one? 1:44:37.800 --> 1:44:38.040 Ready? 1:44:38.240 --> 1:44:38.400 One? 1:44:39.040 --> 1:44:40.479 Twenty four to twenty four tie? 1:44:41.920 --> 1:44:45.320 Sweet? Can we please stop the ties and everything? 1:44:45.400 --> 1:44:46.639 It's so bad. I hate ties. 1:44:46.720 --> 1:44:49.160 It's just play until you winil so. 1:44:49.200 --> 1:44:50.479 Many dies falls over, that's the game. 1:44:50.640 --> 1:44:52.840 Like baseball. You got to go to fifteen innings to 1:44:52.880 --> 1:44:54.240 get it done, and so be it. 1:44:54.400 --> 1:44:56.160 Keep Southern death. That's fine if you need to do 1:44:56.240 --> 1:44:58.320 the the overtimerals, but just keep going till you get 1:44:58.320 --> 1:44:59.240 a winner. Ties are dumb. 1:44:59.400 --> 1:44:59.880 I hate it. 1:45:00.200 --> 1:45:01.439 Yeah, what are the Packers now? Three? 1:45:01.640 --> 1:45:02.240 One and one? 1:45:02.360 --> 1:45:05.360 This is soccer, stupid, No, and soccer shouldn't end in 1:45:05.439 --> 1:45:07.559 a tie either. Just go and tell your score. 1:45:07.840 --> 1:45:11.479 Snart Reports gets trigger every Wednesday Morning Football Tamar and 1:45:11.520 --> 1:45:13.559 the Natty Thursday Night Football is here and we got 1:45:13.600 --> 1:45:14.680 the game for you and the home and the best 1:45:14.680 --> 1:45:16.960 Bengals coverage seven hundred Wody, Cincinnat