1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 2: Lou Penrose with you till ten o'clock. Thank you tuning in. 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: Good to have you along with us. Everything is so expensive, right, 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: Prices are going up and up and up, But they've 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: been going up and up and up since you were 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 2: a kid. And a new study is out that really 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 2: kind of puts things in perspective and it may break 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: your brain. 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 3: It really threw me off. 10 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: I'm always looking at prices of fast food. I don't 11 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: know why. I'm just fascinated with that industry. I worked 12 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 2: at Burger King, I guess because I understand the industry 13 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 2: and I understand what goes on back there. But it's 14 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: just always fascinating to me because I can remember when 15 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: the cost of a burger at Burger King was twenty 16 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: five cents and a cheez burger was thirty five cents. 17 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 2: And it wasn't that long ago that there were still 18 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: things that were ninety nine cents. I mean, the McDonald's 19 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: Value menu ended, but it wasn't that long ago. But 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,639 Speaker 2: things do go up in price. Maybe they've gone up 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: significantly more since we've raised minimum wage in California. Those 22 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: kinds of debates happening. But that's just you know, at 23 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: the menu at McDonald's, things are going up all over 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 2: the place, and some things are going to go up 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: because things just go up. We also want wages to 26 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 2: go up. So if you want wages to go up, 27 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 2: then the price of the entree in the restaurant has 28 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: to go up. So what you wanted to do is 29 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: go up slower than your paycheck goes up. You want 30 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: your paycheck to go up, for sure, but you don't 31 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: want to just break even. You want your paycheck to 32 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: go higher than the martini at the bar, at least 33 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: I do so in the last if you look at 34 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: the last thirty years, so effectively ninety five to twenty 35 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: five or ninety six to twenty six, if you base 36 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: how much prices went up in the last thirty years, 37 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: and then you use that exact same metric and look 38 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: at twenty twenty fifty five, which is thirty years from now, 39 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: is that too much math for the radio? In other words, 40 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: if everything continues to go up the way it's been 41 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: going up for the last thirty years, in twenty fifty five, 42 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 2: a new car will cost two hundred and eighteen thousand dollars, 43 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 2: like an average new car. A cup of coffee at 44 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: Starbucks will cost twenty eight dollars in the year twenty 45 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: fifty five. Isn't that amazing? You think no one's gonna 46 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: pay twenty eight dollars for a cup of coffee. People 47 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: are paying four to six dollars for it now. A 48 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: gallon of gas based on the last thirty years. In 49 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: thirty years, will be sixteen dollars a gallon. And this 50 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: one's kind of hard because this is average in the 51 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: United States and it's not so much of a big 52 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: deal here in California. But an average home will be 53 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: one point six million dollars in the United States. But 54 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: the car really got me two hundred and eighteen thousand dollars. Fush, 55 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 2: you just bought a new car. Did it cost two 56 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: hundred and eighteen thousand dollars? It luckily did not, right, 57 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 2: But well, how much did it costs? Can I ask? 58 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? 59 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: It was Well what was the sticker on it? Uh? 60 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 3: It was twenty eight and then I got over twenty six. 61 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 2: Okay, so in nineteen ninety six that would have been 62 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: crazy talk. 63 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right right. 64 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: We would have been like, what are you talking about 65 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: cars cost twelve thousand dollars tops, you know, because they 66 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: did they call it. I mean, I'd bought a car 67 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: in nineteen Let's see, I moved to southern California February 68 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: of nineteen ninety and I bought a car at the 69 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: Critos Auto Center and it was ninety nine ninety nine, 70 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: So ten thousand dollars brand new car six O five 71 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: meets South Street, Cerritos Auto Square, that's right way. So yeah, 72 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: and now they're like twenty four to twenty five, twenty 73 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: six thousand dollars, thirty four thirty five thirty six thousand dollars, 74 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: and based on that level of inflation in the year 75 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: twenty fifty five, it's gonna be two hundred and eighteen 76 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. It just seems wild, like what are our 77 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: paychecks gonna be? Oh man? But you know, you see 78 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: these like old black and white ads for cars and 79 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 2: homes from the fifties, and they just cost a couple 80 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: of thousand dollars. But people are making salaries of nine 81 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year, so everything just goes up. It's 82 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: just wild how much it's gonna go up. The other 83 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 2: thing that I thought was interesting is the level of technology. 84 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: This is gonna be the real stunner in San Diego 85 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: where I my home broadcast radio station is Kogo, and 86 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: San Diego and San Diego they're pushing back on the weaimo. 87 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of the waimo. I'm a big 88 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: fan of all technology. I think technology is making everything better. 89 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: There are upsides and downsides to any technological improvement, and 90 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: we the users have to manage that. But by and large, 91 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 2: things have gotten a lot better. And it's good, right. 92 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if a technological improvement that's 93 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 2: come our way that isn't really good. I mean, Ronner, 94 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: you mentioned the fax machine. Do you remember when the 95 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: fax machine first came out, and how like space age 96 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 2: it seemed not such that? No, you remember that? 97 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 3: No, I must have blocked out the trauma. 98 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 2: Oh no, I I just because the paper was different. 99 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,119 Speaker 2: So that was cool in and of itself. 100 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 3: It's a thermal paper, right. 101 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: But I remember watching it and thinking they figured it out. 102 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 2: They did it. 103 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 3: It's done. 104 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: Like now you don't have to because the facts came 105 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: out before email. So in order to get a document 106 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: to anybody, you have to drop in the mail or 107 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: messenger it. Now you could fax it coast to coast. 108 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: I thought, that's amazing. 109 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 3: Now now that you bring it up. I do remember 110 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 3: my first newspaper job. I had to fax copies of 111 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 3: stories to people and it was a huge pain in 112 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: the ass. 113 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were a pain because you had to feed 114 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: it and the feeders didn't work very well, and you're 115 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 2: always out of paper. And I remember working at a 116 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: radio station and my GM, the boss, he was sick 117 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: of like buying fax paper. So that's how we went 118 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: to the next step, which is getting a computer that 119 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 2: had a like that received the fax number and they 120 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: would all just load into the screen and then you 121 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: only printed what you wanted because you would get spammed. 122 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: You get junk facts. 123 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, right there there was an issue with receiving 124 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 3: unwanted factxes and that costing people a bunch of money 125 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: because it usually. 126 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 2: Come in Monday morning. Right, You come in Monday morning 127 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: and the floor is filled like a confetti parade. I 128 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: could take a tape parade. 129 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 3: Of all these facts. Yeah, that's even worse than junk mail. Now, 130 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 3: have you ever actually been in a Weima Lou Not yet. No, 131 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: My cousin has, my niece has. They sent me photographs 132 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 3: of it. I've not yet been in a weimo, but 133 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 3: I want to. So they've sent you proof of life, 134 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 3: which proved of life. Yeah. 135 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: I just think that's gonna happen, Like that's to be 136 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: the thing that happens where we will never remember it 137 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: not being part of our lives. It's gonna increase efficiencies 138 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: and just be so amazing that it will just it 139 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: will be like email, like you can't remember not having email, 140 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: although email has not been around forever, but the idea 141 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: of not having email is just it's not even possible. 142 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: And I think the way MOO is going that way 143 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 2: in San Diego, they're fighting it. They're fighting it in 144 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: San Diego because the impact that we'll have on rideshare drivers. 145 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: And I appreciate that that's very nice, but that's like 146 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: not allowing Henry Ford to sell cars because of the 147 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: horse and buggy people. I mean, this is no way 148 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: you can hold back like that technological improvement. And I 149 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: just think it's gonna be such a game changer and 150 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: it's gonna happen within our lifetime. It'll start with trucks. 151 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: The trucks leaving the Port of Long Beach on that 152 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: corridor are gonna be self driven, and they're gonna run 153 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: three shifts, They're gonna run twenty four hours. It's gonna 154 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: be so efficient and it's going to be devastating in 155 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: the short term for the trucking industry, but in the 156 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: long term, the levels of efficiencies are going to be 157 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: off the charts and we wouldn't have it any other way. 158 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: And then I think the next is going to be 159 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: like taxi rides. Basically, the waimo is going to drive 160 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: you everywhere. Now, I mean, I don't know about you, 161 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: but I never go out with my wife with my car. 162 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: I always Uber because why I would never. I'm not 163 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: gonna ever risk taking a drink, and why can't we 164 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: both have a drink? 165 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 3: We'll just uper it. 166 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: And that's been a game changer for so many people. 167 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: Why there are still DUIs out there is fascinating to me, Like, 168 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: what's wrong with you? People call the uber, call the lift, 169 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: they come and get you. 170 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 3: You'd be insane to risk a dui, especially at this 171 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 3: point in time with the massive I mean, it's life 172 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 3: changing to get busted for a dui. 173 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: Right and expensive as all hell, and you can hurt somebody, 174 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 2: and think about that, What if you didn't mean to 175 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: hurt somebody, somebody jumped out in front of you or whatever. 176 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: You hurt somebody and you got that on your conscious conscience, 177 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: and you know you could get hit civilly pretty hard too. 178 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: So now there's no reason to do it. And that's 179 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: out there, and I just think the WAIMO is going 180 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 2: to be just adding to that, and I think that's 181 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 2: all happening. 182 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 3: You're a lot more I think you're a lot more 183 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: optimistic about the WEYMO than I am. At the very least, 184 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 3: I would say they got a few kinkst iron out 185 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 3: before I'm getting into one of those things. 186 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 2: For sure, that's gonna happen. Oh, so you're you're waiting 187 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: for the rest of us to get backed up. 188 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 3: That's exactly I wouldn't. I wouldn't get in one of 189 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 3: those on a bet right now. But maybe maybe down 190 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: the line. We'll see. 191 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,359 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 192 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: USA Today Today. Survey Monkey uh Workforce survey says that 193 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: the biggest s gripe workers have is they don't get 194 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: paid enough to keep up with the cost of living. 195 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: So things are going up, paychecks are not and workers 196 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: are not happy with that, and that is reasonable. But 197 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: I really think that technology is going to make a 198 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: huge difference in our ability to have better quality of life. 199 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: Wages are going to have to go up. 200 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: There's no question. 201 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: I've been saying this for years. Some of the biggest 202 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: problems we have right here in Southern California are not 203 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 2: that so much things have gone up. It's that we're 204 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: not getting paid as much as we're worth. And it's 205 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: not just taxes being taken out. The taxes have gone up, 206 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 2: but by small percentages. By my calculations, we should be 207 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: being We should be we should be paid way more, 208 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: Our wages should be way higher across the board. Let 209 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: me give you a brief analysis, a rough analysis. All right, 210 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 2: forty years ago, nineteen eighty average salary in Southern California 211 00:10:54,800 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars a year, average home first time ardor 212 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: home average cost sixty thousand dollars a year, three times 213 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: as much. But certainly, if you made twenty thousand dollars 214 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: a year, you could save a down payment on a 215 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 2: sixty thousand dollars home. It would be work but you 216 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 2: could do it. It may take many years, but people 217 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 2: did well. Of course people did it. That's why all 218 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: these everyone that lives here, our parents did it. People 219 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 2: save for a home. You're going on vacation this year, Lou? No, no, no, 220 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 2: we're saving for a home. Hey, you're gonna buy a 221 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 2: new car this year, lou, uh no, not this year. 222 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 2: We're saving for home. Where are you taking the kids 223 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 2: on vacation this year? Ah, We're just gonna go stay 224 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 2: with my mom in Palm Springs because we're saving for 225 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 2: a home. Remember that phrase, You remember your parents using 226 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: that phrase, people save for a home. And people rooted 227 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: for people that were saving for a home. You know what, 228 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 2: saving for a home. Let's uh, you know, let's put 229 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: some extra bucks in their Christmas present. Like, you know, people, 230 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: we're all pulling for each other, people that are saving 231 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: for a home. I mean we're really really rooting for them. 232 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 2: And you could save a down payment on a sixty 233 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 2: thousand dollar home and move into it, which is what 234 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 2: they did. Okay, so the system worked fast forward forty years. 235 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: Here we are. It's now twenty twenty or twenty twenty six. 236 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: Average salary in southern California sixty thousand dollars a year, 237 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: three times as much average cost of a starter home 238 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars. There's no way you 239 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: can save, and now they want twenty percent down. There's 240 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: no way you're saving a down payment for a house 241 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: on sixty thousand dollars. I'll go one better. Now you 242 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: and your wife make sixty thousand dollars, you get one 243 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty thousand dollars. There's no way you're making 244 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 2: that down payment anytime soon. Making one hundred and twenty 245 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 2: dollars not gonna happen. So it's not because the house 246 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: is too expensive, and it's not because nineteen eighty was 247 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: a dream. It's because your wages are too low. So 248 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: think about it that way. The next time you go 249 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: in and see your boss and they want to do 250 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: reviews and raises, that's at least that's look. Those are 251 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 2: the numbers. So I've often felt that we we are 252 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: as a working people, we are far more productive. Technologies 253 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: allowed us to be far more productive. The biggest argument 254 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: going on in American workforce is being bothered on the weekend. 255 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: Why is that because we're so productive that we could 256 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 2: fire a text back to the boss, like on a 257 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: Sunday at one and get them an answer to something. 258 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: The fact that we can do that is the reason 259 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: that they butt in on our weekend. And so some 260 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 2: bosses do it so much that now we have to 261 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: push back. And this got be an office work policy. 262 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: Uh you know that, Hey, I can't be bothering the 263 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: staff on the weekend or on their time off. But 264 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: you know, for most of us, if somebody needs a 265 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: quick answer to a quick question about a quick project 266 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 2: and they shoot you a text or an email or whatever. 267 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: After your home, you tell your wife, hang on a 268 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: secon let me just respond to this real quick. And 269 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: you're a good guy and you're part of the team, 270 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 2: and it's not that big of a deal. But the 271 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: technology allowed for that level of efficiency. So I think 272 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: it's you can set whatever parameters you want and whatever 273 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: guardrails you want on your life and your time, but 274 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: the technology will always be there. So here's what the 275 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 2: future is going to be like. Are you ready for this? 276 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: This will blow your mind. The technology people at MIT 277 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: tell us that in the next twenty five years, science 278 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 2: and technology will be at a minimum four times more advanced, 279 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: but more likely seven times more advanced, four to seven 280 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: times more advanced than right now in the next twenty 281 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 2: five years. That means that twenty fifty is as far 282 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: forward technologically as eighteen ninety eight is backwards. So now 283 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: imagine talking to somebody from eighteen ninety eight and explaining 284 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: to them what you did today? How did you day start? Well, 285 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: the alarm clock went off, which wasn't invented yet because 286 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: it was plugged into a wall, which the outlet wasn't 287 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: invented because it was no electricity. And then I got 288 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: up and took a shower with hot water from a 289 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: water heater that wasn't invented by powered by gas, and 290 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 2: then went downstairs and looked at my phone that wasn't 291 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: invented yet, and microwaved myself some breakfast that wasn't invented yet, 292 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: to get into a car that wasn't invented yet, to 293 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: go to work and get on a computer and respond 294 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 2: to emails that were never invented yet, right, I mean, 295 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: you couldn't. You couldn't possibly explain to somebody an American, 296 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: By the way, nineteen eighteen ninety eight society was pretty advanced. 297 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 2: They had newspapers, they had societies, they had department stores. 298 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: I mean, these were active people living a life. But 299 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: you could never explain to somebody in the like the 300 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: crowd in Walnut Grove on little House on the prairie, 301 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: we're thinking people. They solve problems all the time, and 302 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 2: they went to church and you know, they did all 303 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: kinds of things. Charles Ingalls and Carolyn and then you 304 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: got to Mary and law and Carrie and the dog Tiger. 305 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: I mean, they had all kinds of things going on. 306 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: They read books, they went to school. So these were 307 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: these were not backward ass people. These were learned people. 308 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 2: They could not conceive of what you did today, and 309 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: you did it so freely that lack of understanding that 310 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: these people would, like these Walnut Growth people, would have 311 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: to what you you did today is what twenty fifty 312 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 2: is going to be like, Like it's not just gonna 313 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 2: be a better iPhone, it's gonna be way better. And 314 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: by the way, this is four times advancement and science 315 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 2: and technology if you go with the MIT people, and 316 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: it's seven times more advanced by twenty fifty than twenty 317 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:38,239 Speaker 2: fifty forward would be like sixteen hundred backwards and now 318 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: you're talking to Isaac Newton and he's inventing calculus. So 319 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: strap and tight, it's gonna be a hell of a 320 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 2: twenty five years. 321 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 322 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 2: So cost of living is up everywhere. Paychecks are just 323 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 2: not USA today. Survey Monkey Workforce survey se that the 324 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 2: biggest great people have it's all about the Benjamins. No, 325 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: lou exhaust your patients. 326 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 3: He exhausted all of our patients. 327 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 2: I appreciate the call. Henry again, Becky here, could you 328 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: make us want to jump off a bridge any more 329 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 2: than you are? I appreciate that. Not trying to give 330 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 2: you the blues, But the reality is we're just our 331 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: earnings are not keeping up with inflation, and that's the struggle. 332 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: More Americans are working a second job. Nearly two thirds 333 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 2: of workers now rely on a second job for income. 334 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: One job just isn't enough anymore. And look, there's a 335 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: lot that can be said about that. I mean, people 336 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 2: in the past, our ancestors, if you will, relied on 337 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 2: second jobs to get ahead, to stabilize their families. So 338 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: you could either be moan the fact that it takes 339 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 2: a second job to have the quality of life that 340 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 2: you want, or you can delight in the fact that 341 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 2: there is a second job opportunity available. So it's really 342 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 2: just about the perspective. But the reality is, and I'll 343 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: stand on this, the wages just aren't paying. And it 344 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: goes back to what I have been talking about for years, 345 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: and that is there's only so much money you can 346 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 2: make in the service economy. We embrace this emergence of 347 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: the service economy like it was the elixir to modern 348 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: American life. I mean so much so that we actually 349 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 2: established a union for it. Now, I'm a Republican, but 350 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: I do believe in collective bargaining rights, and I think 351 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: there is a place for unions because work in labor 352 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: and management are going to have a natural ebb and 353 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: flow and push and pull. It makes sense, right we 354 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 2: use these terms in economics like labor and management. Do 355 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 2: you know who populates labor management? Humans? And there is 356 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 2: a human condition. So if you are a manager of 357 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: a team, you are looking to reduce costs as much 358 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: as possible without impacting productivity. That's your job. It's not 359 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 2: being mean and it's not being cheap. You're trying to 360 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: expand the bottom line and expand profits. That's what you're 361 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: there to do. You're managing. If you are labor, your 362 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: job is to work and get paid more, right effectively, 363 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 2: if you really think about it, Labor advocacy is more 364 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: money for less pay, less work, less hours, write, more 365 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 2: time off, more breaks, bigger like longer lunches, right, more 366 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: more downtime, make your quality of life in the workforce 367 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 2: better and get more money doing it, and that's natural. Right. 368 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: So those two forces are going to clash, and unionized 369 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 2: labor helps stabilize that. So the management realizes, Okay, look 370 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 2: we can't make cars without labor, and labor realizes, look, 371 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 2: we can't be ridiculous in our ask. So let's have 372 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 2: a meeting, let's organize and get through this together so 373 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 2: that everybody's happy. And it's all very reasonable. They're not 374 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 2: going to give us more money than they want to, 375 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: and we can't ask for more money that's reasonable so 376 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: that they can't make any profit, right, And the system 377 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: worked for years. It worked. Now we don't have as 378 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 2: much manufacturing jobs, but we still have this model of 379 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: labor union and we're applying it to service workers. It's foolish, 380 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 2: it's absolutely foolish, and that's part of the problem. So 381 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: we've elevated service work as the only work there is. 382 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 2: And the real money maker in the American economy has 383 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: always he's been manufacturing, and we've kicked all the jobs overseas, 384 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 2: and we don't have any American manufacturing or very little, 385 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 2: and we wonder why the quality of life is not 386 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: keeping up and why our dollars aren't going anywhere. You know, 387 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: in the last hour or in the last episode if 388 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: you're listening to this as a streaming podcast, we talked 389 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 2: about the cause of permanente nurses and I appreciate their struggle, 390 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 2: but back in the day, like if there was a 391 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 2: nurse in your family, she was doing well. Everybody was 392 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: proud of her. Oh she's a nurse, she got her 393 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: RN right, that job security. They were making money, and 394 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: like they never went on strike. You know why, because 395 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: the nurse was probably married to somebody who was making 396 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 2: very good money, and that household was bringing in good money. 397 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 2: My great aunt was a nurse. She actually she stopped 398 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: being a nurse after they had a family, but she 399 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: was married to it's not my uncle, but it's an uncle, 400 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: and my Mexican American listeners can understand this. When you're Italian. 401 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: It's all uncles, even though they're cousins of your mother 402 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 2: or whatever. And he was an engineer, he worked at Grumming, 403 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 2: He was a factory worker, and they made good money 404 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 2: to the point where she was a nurse. But she 405 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 2: stopped being a nurse as soon as they had children. 406 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 2: And they had four kids, four children, their own house. 407 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 2: Everybody had their own bedroom, two cars in the driveway 408 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: in a pretty tony area of town, and one paycheck. 409 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 2: Blue collar work, so it used to be that way, 410 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 2: like people were working and earning and making good money 411 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: and they didn't belly ache about the cost of things. 412 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 2: I was telling this story over the Chris this holiday. 413 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: One of my sons, I think the baby, I mean 414 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 2: the baby's twelve, but he's the baby. Uh. He had 415 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 2: some kind of project about family or whatever. I don't 416 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 2: remember what it was, but I it caused me to 417 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 2: go look for some old photo and so I went 418 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 2: into that box that we have that has old photos 419 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: and including some old photos that I had from when 420 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: I was a kid, and I found some like old 421 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: Christmas photos from when I. 422 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 3: Was a kid. 423 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 2: And it wasn't part of the project. I just happened 424 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 2: to stumble upon it and I wanted to show my boys. 425 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 2: Is unbelievable. I mean, none of my parents had college degrees. 426 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: None of the cousins had college degrees. My grandfather didn't 427 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: have a college degree. He didn't even speak English Man. 428 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 2: The Christmas parties these people through unbelievable. You're talking like 429 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: fifteen eighteen twenty one people in my grandmother's house in 430 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 2: the kitchen, food everywhere, bottles of booze all over the place, wine, champagne, 431 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 2: they're all drinking Johnny Walker red, They're all doing Manhattan's. 432 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: Is unbelievable. Thinking how did these people pay. 433 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: For all this? 434 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 2: There was no costco to go to, so people did 435 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 2: do it. People lived good quality lives and through parties 436 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: and celebrated. And you know, we're getting paid decent money 437 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: for their day's labor. And it's just it's not kept up. 438 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 2: Your wages have not kept up, and that's really the 439 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: biggest problem. 440 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. 441 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: I got the email this from the Dean of students. 442 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: Unfortunately your son made an inappropriate choice today. You ever 443 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 2: received one of these emails mister Ronnor that starts with 444 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: your son made an inappropriate choice. 445 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 3: I think I was the subject of lots of emails 446 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 3: like that when I was in school. 447 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 2: I always get the same like reactions like, oh, can't 448 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 2: a week go by? One week go by without one 449 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 2: of these emails or a problem at school or a 450 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: letter or an email from one of the teachers saying 451 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 2: that the assignment wasn't turned in on time. And now 452 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 2: the best you can get is half credit or the 453 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 2: other thing, which is when they go to school and 454 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 2: I get a call three periods in that they left, 455 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: you know, their cleats in the backseat of the car. 456 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 3: Like my wife and I just we we yearned. 457 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 2: For one full week with three boys to just have 458 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: not one disciplinary problem or grade concern. 459 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 3: But I haven't made it yet. 460 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 2: So the inappropriate choice what like when you start reading 461 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 2: it wasn't so bad. And then, of course I don't 462 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 2: have my son's side of the story, and I do 463 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 2: want to hear him out, But he did get in 464 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: school suspension. That's I s s so in school suspension 465 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: and is kind of the worst of all suspensions. Like 466 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: I'd rather stay after school and just basically do the 467 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: homework I guess in school, suspension is when you just 468 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 2: have to sit in the principal's office and do nothing 469 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 2: like do your work. But he's in there. He's not 470 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 2: in there all day, he's in and out because he 471 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 2: also teaches classes. But that's what he had to do. 472 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 3: What did he do wrong? 473 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 2: Again, Well, I'm not sure if I can say this. Well, 474 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: I don't even know. 475 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 3: It was a violation. 476 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: It was a violation of the other students' personal space 477 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 2: and a violation of committing an act with the intent 478 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 2: to embarrass another student, which is unacceptable under the code 479 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 2: of conduct. 480 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 3: I see, Well, you got to back him up, Loue. 481 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 3: Here's the best thing that ever happened to me. When 482 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 3: I was in school, I got in trouble and they 483 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 3: called my grandmother in. She was who I was living with, 484 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 3: and the principal said, your grandson almost gave a teacher 485 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 3: a heart attack today, and my grandmother shot right back 486 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 3: at her. Well, then I think you better hire some 487 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 3: healthier teachers. Yeah, I love you do love. 488 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: It when actually your parents come to the principal's office 489 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 2: and they come out swinging. 490 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what you gotta do. You gotta take 491 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 3: your kid's side, Well, I didn't, so I didn't. 492 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 2: I got aggravated as soon as I got this email, 493 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: and I called my wife immediately, and I'm like, what, 494 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 2: what the hell is wrong with him? Like, why would 495 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 2: he do such a thing like that? He knows that 496 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 2: he can't, he's not able to do that. 497 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 3: What he did. 498 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 2: I'll give all the details in the next hour, but 499 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 2: it didn't sound right to me, so I wanted to 500 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: hear the details. And when I talked to him, it 501 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 2: was a completely different scenario. It was goofing around and 502 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: goofing around with teammates, so it wasn't like a big deal. 503 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 2: But he got caught doing it. Everybody else was doing it. 504 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: He's the teacher, or in this case, the coach, walked 505 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 2: in while he was engaging in it, And of course 506 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: you can't unsee things, and they have no choice but 507 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 2: to go by the letter of the book, and what 508 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: he did, while silly and harmless, does violate, so of 509 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: course the dean has no choice but to do all. 510 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 2: It's a funny email. It'll be easier to understand if 511 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: I just read it, and I'll do that in the 512 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: next hour, and then you tell me if it's the 513 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: right thing to do. But it's a funny. He's like, 514 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 2: your son is a good kid, and I look forward 515 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: to supporting him in the remainder of the twenty five 516 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: twenty six school year. So even even the principal is 517 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 2: sweet on my son because he tells them that he's 518 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,479 Speaker 2: gonna get in school suspension. He made a bad choice, 519 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, he's a really 520 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 2: good kid and I like him a lot. 521 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 3: Well, i'd worry if I had a son who didn't 522 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 3: occasionally get in at least a little bit of trouble. 523 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 3: That wouldn't be normal. Normal. 524 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just NonStop when you have three boys and 525 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 2: they're close in age. I'll never forget this one. I 526 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 2: had to leave work early to come pick up my 527 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 2: I'm middle son from the y. They they went to 528 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 2: the YMCA after school. 529 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 3: This was in there. 530 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 2: They were both in elementary school, and it was great 531 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 2: because there was a YMCA on the campus of the 532 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 2: school for after school program. You still have to pay 533 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 2: for it, but it was very convenient. You'd have to 534 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: leave the property, and I remember wondering how the YMCA 535 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 2: pulled that off. But I'm a big fan of the YMCA. 536 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 2: I'll never say a bad thing about them. They do 537 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: pre like before school care and after school care, and 538 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 2: they're wonderful people. And if you have two working parents, 539 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 2: which at the time we both were trying to get 540 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 2: out of that situation, but we wanted, you know, until 541 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 2: we could, we wanted to make sure that the kids 542 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 2: were someplace good and safe, and they do healthy mind 543 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: time and help with homework, and they play and they 544 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: taught them how to play chess, which was amazing. I 545 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: would go in there and like all the kids in 546 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 2: third grade, they'd be in this big chess tournament and 547 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: I thought, man, that's gaming, old school gaming, but gaming. 548 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: And they just taught him wonderful things. And The Why 549 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 2: is just a wonderful place. So if you have the 550 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 2: opportunity and you have kids, check it out. And then 551 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: they do all kinds of wonderful summer programs and they 552 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 2: just everybody supports everybody, and there's you know, there's scholarships 553 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 2: for families that don't have the money to do it, 554 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: and everybody. It's just great. I get a pall from 555 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: The Why and they're like, look, sorry to do this too, 556 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: but you need to come up and pick up your 557 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 2: your middle son because he fought, he punched somebody, Like, oh, 558 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 2: is there everything okay? Yeah, no, it's I mean, everything's fine, 559 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 2: and we separated and calmed it down. But like that, 560 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 2: that's a violation, Like you can't if you punch somebody, 561 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 2: there's no zero tolerance for punching. And he has to 562 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 2: go home, so unfortunately you have to come pick him up. 563 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 2: And I'm like, all right, I get it. You know, 564 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 2: you don't want to get sideways with the white people, 565 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 2: and you don't want to be one of those parents. 566 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,959 Speaker 2: You want to be on their team. Right, they're running 567 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: fourteen fifteen kids out there after school. It's hot, there'sn't 568 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 2: wear conditioning. Uh, So I don't I don't want to 569 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 2: challenge it. He hit somebody, not allowed to hit anybody. 570 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 2: I guess I gotta go pick him up. So I 571 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 2: drive all the way down there and you know, try 572 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 2: and put on that stern face and guess who he hit? 573 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 2: He hit his brother. I'm like, wait a minute, what 574 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 2: and that requires and I'm like, what did he's so 575 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 2: he's got to go home early because he hit his brother. 576 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: It's his brother. They're hitting each other all day. When 577 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 2: they go home, they're going to hit each other, like, well, 578 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 2: you're not allowed to hit anybody. Well, why didn't you 579 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 2: tell me that he hit his own brother? Like that's 580 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 2: okay with us? So now I had to go pick 581 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 2: him up take him home. I didn't even know, Like, 582 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 2: how do you reprimand your son for hitting his own brother? 583 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: At the wye? Being sent home early? So I had 584 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 2: to go drive him home, then wait like two hours, 585 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 2: and then drive back to the why to pick up 586 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 2: My older son. Thought the whole thing was hysterical because 587 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 2: he's bigger. He's like, yeah, he hit me, and he 588 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 2: got they saw him hit me, so he had. 589 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 3: To go home. All times have changed, less violence has tolerated. 590 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 3: When violence from teachers and with other kids was kind 591 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 3: of the normal when we were growing up. Didn't you 592 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 3: ever get in fights in school? 593 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? But like I would. I mean it's one thing. 594 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 2: You get into a fight, you get separated, he get 595 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 2: suspended or whatever. It's you know, a detention. But if 596 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 2: I'm hitting my own brother, I think that's a little 597 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 2: bit different. 598 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 3: You should get a free pass on holding your own brother. 599 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 2: I thought I thought they would have given him a 600 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 2: free pass, but they didn't. True story lou Penrose I'm 601 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 2: k IF. I am six forty live everywhere on the 602 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 2: iHeart Radio app,