Speaker 1: The quest for the three peat has begne.
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Speaker 2: three consecutive titles. The Dodgers are the favorites to become
Speaker 2: the fifth.
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Speaker 1: David vasse Da.
Speaker 2: Ta Oscar Hernandez was already with his bobb all head
Speaker 2: throwing sunflower seeds tonight.
Speaker 3: That was the giveaway.
Speaker 2: He was going to use it in the dugout for
Speaker 2: the Dodgers when they hit a home run tonight, but
Speaker 2: that never came to be. The Dodgers did not hit
Speaker 2: a home run tonight and they fall to the Phillies
Speaker 2: by a final score of four to three.
Speaker 3: Welcome the Dodger Talk.
Speaker 2: David vass with you until eleven thirty tonight here on
Speaker 2: a five to seventy. LA's sports Oryan Keckering, who was
Speaker 2: the pitcher on the mound when the Dodgers beat the
Speaker 2: Phillies in Game four last year's NLDS remember the comebacker,
Speaker 2: the fumble, the throwaway, and the Dodgers walk it off
Speaker 2: in the eleventh inning against Keckering and the Phillies to
Speaker 2: go on to the NLCS. Well, Keckering was back on
Speaker 2: the mountain tonight. In the seventh inning. It was a
Speaker 2: little rocky, especially early on. He spiked a fastball right
Speaker 2: in front of home plate facing show hel Tani. So
Speaker 2: you have to imagine you start to see some of
Speaker 2: the ghosts of Hay Sung Kim and Andy Paihez. In
Speaker 2: that seventh inning, the Dodgers were able to score a
Speaker 2: runoff for Keckering. In that seventh inning, Mookie Beds drove
Speaker 2: in Andy Piez. We'll get to that plane a second.
Speaker 2: But the Dodgers fall tonight to the Phillies four to three.
Speaker 2: Tanner Scott takes the loss after giving up three runs
Speaker 2: in the eighth inning. Tanner Scott had not given up
Speaker 2: any run since April twenty fourth, had been that long.
Speaker 2: He had not given up any runs in the month
Speaker 2: of May, and had not given up a home run
Speaker 2: in the month of May. So tonight one of those
Speaker 2: nights where, for whatever reason, Tanner Scott just couldn't put
Speaker 2: away the Phillies because he did give up three hits
Speaker 2: when he had two strikes on those batters in the
Speaker 2: eighth inning, including at Mundo Sosa who hit a one
Speaker 2: to two fastball over the right field wall into the
Speaker 2: home run seats, and that fan that tried to catch
Speaker 2: it with his whole body obviously did not do a
Speaker 2: good job because it bounced off his belly and back
Speaker 2: onto the field, and either way at Mundo Sosa and
Speaker 2: the Phillies had taken the lead. So that was a
Speaker 2: little shocking because you kind of feel like no drama
Speaker 2: for Tanner Scott has been a regular thing this year,
Speaker 2: but tonight there was some drama in the eighth inning.
Speaker 2: He just couldn't put a way any of the Phillies
Speaker 2: in that eighth inning. And look the reality is, and
Speaker 2: I said this during the Clubhouse show, but it bears repeating.
Speaker 2: Tanner Scott had the right idea. He gets ahead O
Speaker 2: two on Sosa, who's a free swinger. Twenty one strikeouts
Speaker 2: this year for Sosa and only three walks in limited action.
Speaker 2: He's sitting two thirteen. His ops is six to oh one,
Speaker 2: so he's ahead of him two and he throws a
Speaker 2: slider down and away.
Speaker 3: You know, that's a good pitch.
Speaker 2: You know, see, if he's going to chase it, I
Speaker 2: would double up with another slider, maybe not as far
Speaker 2: down off the strike zone, but a little bit closer
Speaker 2: to the strike zone.
Speaker 3: But instead he threw a.
Speaker 2: Fastball right in the wheelhouse of a Mundo Sosa and
Speaker 2: he did not miss it, as he he and the
Speaker 2: Phillies are certainly they are a free swing. They swing
Speaker 2: early and often, and the Dodgers were exploiting that until
Speaker 2: that eighth inning. And that was a pitch right where
Speaker 2: Sosa could extend his arms, and it was a no
Speaker 2: doubt from this vantage point in ninety six fastball that
Speaker 2: Sosa hit for a two run home run to give
Speaker 2: the Phillies a four to three lead in the eighth inning,
Speaker 2: and that would be the final score. Now, in the
Speaker 2: bottom of the ninth inning, Dave Roberts brought Dalton Rushing
Speaker 2: off the bench to pinch hit for Santiago Espinal and
Speaker 2: Joan Duran is a better pitcher against righties than he,
Speaker 2: excuse me, a better pitcher against lefties than he is
Speaker 2: against righties. Rushing seemed like he was trying to tie
Speaker 2: the score on his own and he rolled over a
Speaker 2: one pitch. You gotta see more pitches against Duran in
Speaker 2: that situation. Try to get on base any way you can.
Speaker 2: Don't try to tie the score yourself, even though you can.
Speaker 2: Otani's on deck behind you. So I felt like that
Speaker 2: kind of set the wheels in motion for a pretty
Speaker 2: easy ninth inning for Joan Duran. Eight six six, nine
Speaker 2: eighty seven two five seventy is the phone number.
Speaker 3: So all of what took place in the.
Speaker 2: Eighth inning really overshadowed a good start from Roki Sasaki,
Speaker 2: who was really good tonight.
Speaker 3: He just seems to continue to get better.
Speaker 2: Even though everybody is so skeptical when it comes to
Speaker 2: Roki Sasaki, you can't deny in his last five starts
Speaker 2: he has started to look like a bona fide major
Speaker 2: league starter. And tonight his fastball was the best we
Speaker 2: have seen it all season long.
Speaker 3: He hit one hundred miles an hour.
Speaker 2: He was right there with ninety eight basically all night
Speaker 2: with his fastball.
Speaker 3: That's something that we haven't seen.
Speaker 2: We saw a lot of confidence, and we've seen the
Speaker 2: confidence growing over this month of May that Dave Roberts
Speaker 2: pointed to, and tonight was maybe an all time high
Speaker 2: when it comes to his confidence, his execution and the
Speaker 2: fastball velocity was a great indicator of that because on
Speaker 2: the year his fastball's been averaging ninety seven. Tonight, his
Speaker 2: fastball averaged almost ninety nine miles an hour, and that's
Speaker 2: the Roki Sasaki we heard of, and the Phillies had
Speaker 2: no answer for his splitter or his slider.
Speaker 3: The Phillies were zero for nine with three strikeouts against
Speaker 3: sasaki splitter and slider tonight. Also, his fastball got seven
Speaker 3: swings and misses, which was a career high tonight. So
Speaker 3: what took place in the eighth inning and the Dodgers
Speaker 3: losing tonight overshadowed the fact that Roki Sasaki closed out
Speaker 3: a very good May, throwing twenty eight and a third
Speaker 3: innings in five starts, holding hitters to a two wait
Speaker 3: batting average, and his strikeout to walk ratio was phenomenal
Speaker 3: twenty eight strikeouts and only six walks tonight. Seven strikeouts
Speaker 3: in one walk for Sasaki. So the Dodgers have not
Speaker 3: lost faith in him. They felt like keeping him up
Speaker 3: at the.
Speaker 2: Big league level and have him learn and be around
Speaker 2: Mark Pryor and Connor McGinness. You heard Dave Roberts allude
Speaker 2: to the fact that Sasaki's been working diligently with the Dodgers'
Speaker 2: strengthened conditioning coach and Travis Smith. It's all starting to
Speaker 2: come together, and you just hope that he can continue
Speaker 2: to build off these five starts in the month of
Speaker 2: May and keep it going. Also lost in all this
Speaker 2: was the sixth inning where Alex Vesia came in after
Speaker 2: Sasaki allowed the first two batters in the sixth inning
Speaker 2: to get on Schwarber and Turner with back to back singles.
Speaker 2: After getting Justin Crawford to strike out, Dave Roberts went
Speaker 2: to Alex Vesia to face Bryce Harper. He walked Bryce Harper.
Speaker 2: There were a couple abs challenges that well. There was
Speaker 2: one that Will Smith got wrong. It was way off
Speaker 2: the plate, trying to get the momentum back for Vessia
Speaker 2: and it just didn't work out. So it was bases loaded,
Speaker 2: one out and Vessia faced at Mundo Sosa. Sosa struck
Speaker 2: out on pitches that were completely out of the strike
Speaker 2: zone and then he was able to get Alec Bohm
Speaker 2: to ground out to Espinall to end the inning. So
Speaker 2: that also was overshadowed by the eighth inning. Another play
Speaker 2: at the plate that was overshadowed, or another play that
Speaker 2: was overshadowed by the eighth inning was the bottom of
Speaker 2: the seventh inning. Mookie Betts hits a base hit to
Speaker 2: right field that's where Dallas Garcia is and Andy pie Haz
Speaker 2: was coming around to score, and he was going to score.
Speaker 2: It was a close play at the plate, don't get
Speaker 2: me wrong, but what an awkward slide by Andy pie
Speaker 2: Has who never touched home plate and JT. Real Mudo
Speaker 2: made a huge mistake. A veteran catcher right there, why
Speaker 2: not go You usually see this when you know it's
Speaker 2: like what are you doing? He did slide and touch
Speaker 2: home plate. Catchers go back and touch the runner just
Speaker 2: to be one hundred percent certain. In this case, Paz
Speaker 2: never touched home plate. Real Mudo never went to tag
Speaker 2: Paz and it was kind of a clumsy play at
Speaker 2: the plate by two guys. And I'll say this, Andy
Speaker 2: Pahz is very very fortunate not to have injured his
Speaker 2: ankle when he had a very poor slide into home
Speaker 2: plate because it was not even a slide, it was
Speaker 2: like a jump slide, and if you go back and
Speaker 2: look at the replay, his right ankle kind of sticks
Speaker 2: into the dirt because he never touched home plate. And
Speaker 2: you know, he's very fortunate he didn't turn that ankle.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, if you go back and look at that replay,
Speaker 2: Andy has got to have better slides feet first into
Speaker 2: home plate because that was that was dangerous and that
Speaker 2: was a bad play by both the runner and the
Speaker 2: catcher in that situation. In the seventh inning, eight six
Speaker 2: six seven two five seventy is the phone number. I
Speaker 2: know everybody's going to point to that eighth inning. But
Speaker 2: the Dodgers had a lot of opportunities early in this
Speaker 2: game tonight. Kyle Tucker had a couple of opportunities. One
Speaker 2: that was taken away from him was in the fourth
Speaker 2: inning when he hit a fly ball down the right
Speaker 2: field line. It had a lot of hangtime, but nonetheless
Speaker 2: a Dallas Garcia made a great catch on a fly
Speaker 2: ball that would have scored Mookie Betts in that third inning. Instead,
Speaker 2: it was just out two and Kyle Tucker was fit
Speaker 2: to be tied. Because not a lot of right fielders
Speaker 2: are going to dive going towards the foul line and
Speaker 2: into that short wall. But Garcia gambled and there was
Speaker 2: a lot of hangtime, so he was able to come
Speaker 2: up with it. But it was still a great catch
Speaker 2: to rob Tucker of extra bases and rob the Dodgers
Speaker 2: of what could have been at now that we look
Speaker 2: back on the game, a very pivotal run. But the
Speaker 2: fact is the Dodgers were just two for eleven tonight
Speaker 2: with runners in scoring position, and Kyle Tucker tonight was
Speaker 2: zero for four and he's now hitting two thirty six
Speaker 2: on the season. I mean, that's hard to ignore. Let's
Speaker 2: go out to Orange County, Tyson. You're on Dodger Talk
Speaker 2: with David vasse Hi Tyson.
Speaker 5: Hi, David, how are you.
Speaker 2: I'm doing good. It was a good game tonight, Tyson.
Speaker 2: Tonight was a good baseball game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree. And the pitching has been really good
Speaker 5: all the way from the bullpen through the you know,
Speaker 5: some of the depth of the stars, and it'll probably
Speaker 5: be interesting to see what they'll do with those starters
Speaker 5: when everyone gets healthy, but well we know with this
Speaker 5: team that probably won't be the case. But anyways, to
Speaker 5: go on to what I want to talk about with Tucker,
Speaker 5: it looks like he's just pulling off, you know, on everything.
Speaker 6: And is rolling over to the right side.
Speaker 5: And if he stays close kind of like what my
Speaker 5: favorite Dodger ever, Adrian Gonzalez, would do, is stay closed
Speaker 5: and try to shoot the ball left. It'll stop doing
Speaker 5: that and probably have a better success.
Speaker 2: What do you think it's funny you said that because
Speaker 2: Kyle Tucker was out here for early batting practice and
Speaker 2: that's exactly what he was working on, trying to shoot
Speaker 2: the ball to left field. I wouldn't say he was
Speaker 2: completely pleased with his batting practice session because talk to
Speaker 2: him walking off the field and he wasn't really in
Speaker 2: the mood for it. Rick Monday saw him throw his
Speaker 2: bat during batting practice, so he didn't have a good
Speaker 2: BP session, And it feels like he's just trying to
Speaker 2: find that feel consistently. But you have the right idea,
Speaker 2: because that's what Kyle Tucker and his intent was during
Speaker 2: early batting practice to shoot it to left field.
Speaker 3: He just hasn't been able to do that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, he's a big, strong guy. It's not
Speaker 5: like he's, you know, some slap you know, what hit
Speaker 5: her if if he tries to hit the ball the
Speaker 5: left side.
Speaker 7: He's gonna still.
Speaker 5: Get doubles in some homers. But you know, I've seen
Speaker 5: it with Dodgers in the past day. They pull off
Speaker 5: and just roll over the right side, and you know
Speaker 5: now they don't have this shift, so you can might
Speaker 5: get some hits out of it.
Speaker 3: But I know you.
Speaker 2: Sound like my mom when I was a kid. I said, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'll clean my room, and then she keeps going on
Speaker 2: and say, you never clean your room. I just told
Speaker 2: you he's trying to work on going to the left side.
Speaker 5: As a long season dure he used to play baseballs.
Speaker 5: Sometimes it's hard to you know.
Speaker 3: You understanding, easier said than done.
Speaker 2: But he knows what he's doing wrong and he's trying
Speaker 2: to figure it out, and it's good to see him. Actually,
Speaker 2: you know, Tyson, everybody talks about how he doesn't show
Speaker 2: any care factor or any emotion. Well, he's shown a
Speaker 2: lot of emotion lately, and it's not in a good way.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of frustration. So at the very least
Speaker 2: he cares. You can't doubt that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I'll be rooting for him, and hopefully, you know,
Speaker 5: I can call back here soon with you know better news.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Hey, by the way, your favorite player,
Speaker 2: Adrian Gonzalez was on off day Dodger Talk Thursday night.
Speaker 2: You can find that that interview on the iHeartRadio app
Speaker 2: right there, Tyson.
Speaker 4: All right, I'll go right to it.
Speaker 3: All right after the show.
Speaker 2: Eleven thirty were off tonight eight six six nine eight
Speaker 2: seven two five seventy is the phone number. The Phillies
Speaker 2: scored three runs in the eighth inning and beat the
Speaker 2: Dodgers tonight four to three. Let's go out to Santa Clarita. Jacob,
Speaker 2: you're on Dodger Talk.
Speaker 6: How you doing, Jacob doing good? How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm doing great. Great baseball game tonight at Dodgers Stadium.
Speaker 4: Would have loved to see the win, but you know,
Speaker 4: good baseball.
Speaker 6: Nonethe left.
Speaker 4: So I think recently, Brokie you.
Speaker 2: Have like a go back there, Jacob, Like, who's why
Speaker 2: don't you put the person that's telling you what to
Speaker 2: say on the phone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, I'm a puppet. Yeah, I got someone's
Speaker 4: hand in me right now.
Speaker 5: We'll we'll go for it.
Speaker 4: So I want to talk about Roki. I think Roki's
Speaker 4: been improving his game a lot. I think he needs
Speaker 4: to be, you know, highlighted more as a starter. I
Speaker 4: would love to see, you know, like some more depth
Speaker 4: from him. The improving era is good. I'm just worried
Speaker 4: about how he's going to perform deeper in the season.
Speaker 4: You know, if we you know, end up getting into October,
Speaker 4: that's something I worry about.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't, I wouldn't worry about that right now.
Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is this is and and
Speaker 2: there's no two ways around it. It's a developmental project
Speaker 2: with Roki Sasaki, and you're starting to see some of
Speaker 2: the benefits of the hard work the Dodgers' staff has
Speaker 2: put in to try to make this guy a major
Speaker 2: league starter and help him grow at the major league level.
Speaker 2: So I think at this point in time, Jacob, the
Speaker 2: biggest thing is is be happy that you saw this
Speaker 2: type of performance from Roki, not only to but in
Speaker 2: his previous four starts and in October. I mean, who
Speaker 2: knows if he's even in the starting rotation. I find
Speaker 2: it hard to believe he will be. He'll probably be
Speaker 2: coming out of the bullpen.
Speaker 4: Again, I don't disagree with you. Another thing that I
Speaker 4: think will play as a factor or could potentially be
Speaker 4: a factor as the injuries we have to the starting
Speaker 4: bullp or the starting pitching rotation. You know what with
Speaker 4: Snell and Glass now right now, hopefully that doesn't progress
Speaker 4: and you know that deep into the season, but if
Speaker 4: we have to know.
Speaker 3: It, we'll be back in two months.
Speaker 2: Snell will be back in two months and he'll be
Speaker 2: ready to go for the stretch run and ready for October.
Speaker 2: Glass now, I'm not sure. It seems a lot more vague.
Speaker 2: Backs are fickle, especially when you're six 's eight. And
Speaker 2: let's not forget there's a lot of talk about the Tigers,
Speaker 2: who have the worst record in the American League with
Speaker 2: the Angels, that they may actually decide to trade Trek
Speaker 2: Scubele and teams are gonna wait to see whether or
Speaker 2: not Schoobles healthy in the month of June, and who knows.
Speaker 2: I mean, the Dodgers are right there with the prospect
Speaker 2: capital to be able to pull off a trade like that.
Speaker 4: If we were to gain Schooble. Do you not worry
Speaker 4: about the potential prospect of getting schemes in the future.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, school, I mean, what, Jacob, what I
Speaker 2: gotta go? I mean, come on, I mean that that
Speaker 2: is ridiculous right there. Schooble, by the way, is a
Speaker 2: free agent at the end of the year, so you
Speaker 2: know that is so far down the road. And quite honestly,
Speaker 2: I'd love to see Paul Skien stay with the Pirates
Speaker 2: for more than just his first six years of team control.
Speaker 2: That would be good for the sport, for the Pirates
Speaker 2: to step up and pay Paul Skians to stay a Pirate.
Speaker 2: But the Tigers, on the other hand, it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: They've low balled Scooble in the past with extensions that
Speaker 2: are ridiculous. They have the worst record in the American
Speaker 2: League right now with the Angels, and if it continues
Speaker 2: on this trajectory, it makes sense that they would try
Speaker 2: to get something in return for Schoobol if their season
Speaker 2: is looking bleak as we get closer to the trade deadline,
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Speaker 2: By the way, the Dodgers could have tied the game
Speaker 2: in the ninth inning, not necessarily a walkoff victory.
Speaker 3: They did not, of course. But how about this.
Speaker 2: The Dodgers are the only team that hasn't played an
Speaker 2: extra inning game this year.
Speaker 3: Their first fifty eight.
Speaker 2: Games has not been any of them including an extra
Speaker 2: inning game. That's right, The Dodgers have gone fifty eighth
Speaker 2: straight games to begin the year without an extra inning contest,
Speaker 2: did you.
Speaker 3: Realize that we did?
Speaker 2: It is the tenth longest streak without playing an extra
Speaker 2: inning game to begin the season.
Speaker 3: The team that played the most.
Speaker 2: Straight games to open up a season without going to
Speaker 2: extra innings was the two thousand and five Red Sox,
Speaker 2: who played ninety eight straight games that year to open
Speaker 2: the season without playing an extra inning game. So the
Speaker 2: Dodgers have played fifty eight straight in counting, that is
Speaker 2: the tenth longest streak to begin the season without going
Speaker 2: to extra innings. Eight six six nine eight seven two
Speaker 2: five seventy is the phone number. We're gonna take a
Speaker 2: time out here on Dodger Talk. When we continue, well
Speaker 2: check in with Jose Mota. You'll hear from Teoscar Hernandez
Speaker 2: and Don Mattingley as we caught up with the former
Speaker 2: Dodgers skipper before the game.
Speaker 3: Today.
Speaker 2: Phillies beat the Dodgers tonight four to three on a
Speaker 2: five to seventy LAS Sports.
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Speaker 1: Dodger Talk with Dodger insider David Bass.
Speaker 2: Phillies four three runs in the eighth inning and beat
Speaker 2: the Dodgers tonight by a final score of four to three.
Speaker 2: O'Ryan keickering with the win, Tanner Scott the losing pitcher,
Speaker 2: and Joan Durant with his twelfth save of the year.
Speaker 2: This is Dodger Talk. David vasse with you until the
Speaker 2: bottom of the hour. Well checking with Jose Mota. In
Speaker 2: ten minutes. You'll hear from Don Mattingley about what it
Speaker 2: was like this offseason after being on the losing end
Speaker 2: of last year's incredible World Series between the Dodgers and
Speaker 2: Blue Jays. Remember Don Mattingley was John Schneider's bench coach
Speaker 2: last year and he actually was given the opportunity to
Speaker 2: take out the lineup card before Game one. John Schneider
Speaker 2: gave him that honor because it was the first time
Speaker 2: in Don Mattingley's illustrious career as a player, as a coach,
Speaker 2: as a manager that he ever was involved in the
Speaker 2: World Series. So you'll hear from Don Mattingley a little
Speaker 2: bit later in the show. Mookie Betts tonight had three
Speaker 2: hits and he drove in Andy Pahz on that awkward
Speaker 2: slide in the seventh inning. But that was good to
Speaker 2: see Mookie Betts bouncing back after a couple of down games.
Speaker 2: Remember early on this homestand against the Rockies, he hit
Speaker 2: two home runs in that fifteen run outburst. So tonight
Speaker 2: to see him get three hits against a really good
Speaker 2: starter and Jesus Lozardo was encouraging. And on Monday, we
Speaker 2: had a chance to catch up with Dave Roberts during
Speaker 2: our managers meeting presented by Downy Hunday, and I asked
Speaker 2: Dave Roberts.
Speaker 3: What version of Mookie Betts do you need?
Speaker 8: What I do need? I think what I need and
Speaker 8: it's an simple answer, is I need MOOKI. We need
Speaker 8: MOOKI to be Mookie Bets. And I say that in
Speaker 8: the sense of you're that dog. I think that when
Speaker 8: Mooki's right, there's that little scowl on his face when
Speaker 8: he's hitting. You know, that determination, that fight, that toughness,
Speaker 8: and not the self doubt, the questioning, the over anxiousness
Speaker 8: in the box. And every single time he steps on
Speaker 8: the field, he should think that he's one of the
Speaker 8: best players on the planet, let alone on the field.
Speaker 8: And it is true that being a human being sometimes
Speaker 8: you start to question that yourselves, even if you are
Speaker 8: Mooki Bets. But for me, the last couple of days,
Speaker 8: I saw that edge again, and that's what I want
Speaker 8: to see. And if I see that, the results will
Speaker 8: bet on those results.
Speaker 2: And those that edge has still been there. And tonight
Speaker 2: you say the results three hits and RBI by Mookie
Speaker 2: Betts in the seventh inning. And just to give you
Speaker 2: a peek inside Mookie Bets, I mean he is one
Speaker 2: of the best players of this generation.
Speaker 3: There is no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: I mean, how many guys can win six gold gloves
Speaker 2: and right field and then moved to shortstop almost when
Speaker 2: the MVP if not being hit on the wrist a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago and make that transition seamless. But
Speaker 2: Mookie Bets, for some reason, has a lot of self
Speaker 2: doubt and in Anaheim, when I interviewed him, I asked him,
Speaker 2: what's the piece of advice that David Ortiz gave him
Speaker 2: that he pays forward, and he always said positive self talk.
Speaker 2: And on a recent episode of All the Smoke with
Speaker 2: Matt Barnes, Mookie Betts gave us a peek inside just
Speaker 2: the challenge he has within himself.
Speaker 9: I think, really, what I'm thinking about is don't know.
Speaker 9: And when I tell myself that, like I say that
Speaker 9: all the time, and then I tell move, don't say that,
Speaker 9: don't say that, and by the time I'm stepping in
Speaker 9: the box, and then I just play. So I have
Speaker 9: though I have like these bad thoughts that I really
Speaker 9: have been trying to fix, and then when I get them,
Speaker 9: when I get done with that argument with myself, I
Speaker 9: just play. But I got to go through the argument
Speaker 9: because if I get happy thoughts, then I'm like ah,
Speaker 9: and then you know, the intrusive thoughts start and then.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 9: I've just learned to argue with myself and then cut
Speaker 9: it off as soon as the games, as soon as
Speaker 9: I step in the box.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. So when you see Mookie Bets on the
Speaker 2: on deck circle. There's an argument raging inside his head,
Speaker 2: telling him don't f it up, and then him telling
Speaker 2: his other voice, Hey, I'm gonna do really well here.
Speaker 2: And tonight it worked. He got three hits and he
Speaker 2: came up with an RBI bas it in the seventh inning.
Speaker 2: And I think that's just the positive reinforcement that.
Speaker 3: He needs to believe that he is that good.
Speaker 2: I know it's been a struggle with injuries at times,
Speaker 2: him losing you know, close to twenty pounds last year
Speaker 2: because of the illness, but Mookie Betts has to remember
Speaker 2: that he's Mooky freaking Bets. I mean, just go back
Speaker 2: and look at the back of your baseball card, look
Speaker 2: at Baseball Reference, look at whatever you want. You've done
Speaker 2: things that no other player in this sport has ever done.
Speaker 2: And your one three homer game away from being the
Speaker 2: guy that has the most three homer games in baseball history.
Speaker 2: Right now, he's tied with Johnny Maize and Sammy Sosa
Speaker 2: with six three homer games. He's still got something left
Speaker 2: in the tank. He's thirty three years old. He's still
Speaker 2: rounding into baseball shapes. Still doesn't have one hundred at
Speaker 2: bats under his belt this year, so you know, you
Speaker 2: just I just wanted to share with you what his
Speaker 2: manager knows about him, and obviously Dave knows him pretty
Speaker 2: well since he got here in twenty twenty, and just
Speaker 2: to share, I mean that was he was really insightful
Speaker 2: for him to be that candid on all the smoke
Speaker 2: with Matt Barnes about the raging argument that he has
Speaker 2: with himself from the on deck circle to the batter's box.
Speaker 2: Eight sixty six nine eight seven two five seventy is
Speaker 2: the phone number. Also had a chance to catch up
Speaker 2: with ta Oscar Hernandez earlier this afternoon.
Speaker 3: If you remember, during the.
Speaker 2: Off season and into spring training, Taoscar Hernandez said he
Speaker 2: worked really hard and changed his off season training to
Speaker 2: be able to help him play almost every game of
Speaker 2: the one hundred and sixty two game regular season plus postseason.
Speaker 2: He was frustrated with himself that he had a groin
Speaker 2: injury mid season last year. It lingered all year long
Speaker 2: and he wanted to change that. And then you have
Speaker 2: what took place a couple of nights ago, him running
Speaker 2: up the first base line and he strains his left hamstring.
Speaker 3: I asked Taoscar.
Speaker 2: With all that work he put in, how much more
Speaker 2: frustrating was to have this type of injury.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I was feeling really good. That came
Speaker 10: out of nowhere, But I understand at the same time,
Speaker 10: it's part of the part of the process, is part
Speaker 10: of the game. Like you said, I trained so hard
Speaker 10: this offseason just to be on the field every single
Speaker 10: day for the team, for my teammates, but unfortunately it happens,
Speaker 10: and now it's different time. I need to get stronger,
Speaker 10: need to get better, and just be black as soon
Speaker 10: as possible.
Speaker 2: The good news is Taoscar Hernandez did not ignore his body,
Speaker 2: because if he did, he said, he could have been
Speaker 2: out almost three months. The prognosis is for Oscar Hernandez
Speaker 2: to only miss a month, so that's good news for
Speaker 2: the Dodgers as well. But Taoskar was just heating up
Speaker 2: at the right time. The good news is he did
Speaker 2: not try to push it and make the injury worse.
Speaker 2: So hopefully he is back within a month, and that
Speaker 2: would bring him back right before the All Star break,
Speaker 2: get some games under his belt and then be ready
Speaker 2: to go, ready to go.
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Speaker 1: It's time to go around the horn with hose Mota.
Speaker 2: All right, jose Mota, we've been talking about Roki Sasaki
Speaker 2: every time he's out there, and you're always holding your breath.
Speaker 2: Which Rokie are we going to get? But he seems
Speaker 2: to have built some momentum to his season.
Speaker 7: Oh, the Presidents is so much different now, David has
Speaker 7: no doubt about it. You can see the confidence and
Speaker 7: the eyes and the look the rocky Osaki that now
Speaker 7: has a lot of separation between his fastball at triple
Speaker 7: digits and living at ninety nine to ninety eight, and
Speaker 7: his slider, which is a premiere pitch now very important
Speaker 7: for him, the splitter, the two of them that he's throwing.
Speaker 7: So there's no doubt. The command is there. And I
Speaker 7: think you know you and I talked about this last year.
Speaker 7: What if he just eliminated the wats what would happen
Speaker 7: because the only people that are really hurting him in
Speaker 7: terms of putting the ball in play or Sluggie was
Speaker 7: the top guy in the bottom two, but he was
Speaker 7: hurting himself by allowing the bottom two to beat him
Speaker 7: a lot because he was walking guys in the middle
Speaker 7: of that lineup. So the answer is there, David, when
Speaker 7: he doesn't want guys, he is again a very eleap pitcher.
Speaker 2: Are you sold that there is no looking back now?
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously every starter has a bat outing here
Speaker 2: or there, But do you feel like Rokies made a
Speaker 2: significant turn to the season.
Speaker 7: I believe so. I think at times there's going to
Speaker 7: be some bumps still on the road. But here's what
Speaker 7: the biggest challenge is going to come for him. This
Speaker 7: is not a one time thing. This is a the
Speaker 7: league is going to find out what exactly bringing your
Speaker 7: latest success and then you don't change money. You readjust
Speaker 7: to what you're doing. And it could be just on
Speaker 7: looks that you give in different counts, sequencing the pitches,
Speaker 7: working up and down against certain lineups. I mean, there
Speaker 7: are certain lineups that are gonna hurt you up in the
Speaker 7: zone and certain lineup's going to hurt you with the
Speaker 7: upper cuts down on the zone. But understand exactly what
Speaker 7: the league is going to be doing against you. But
Speaker 7: one thing, just remember that quality strikes or quality strikes,
Speaker 7: it doesn't matter who it is against. And now he
Speaker 7: has the ability to get ahead with not just the fastball,
Speaker 7: but he can run the fastball as a two seamer
Speaker 7: two when he wants to and implement that slider I'll
Speaker 7: tell you about. You know, Charles's comment about that side
Speaker 7: was like that was that's a megile, big pitch. Now
Speaker 7: to keep him honest and keep him off the north
Speaker 7: south pattern with his fastball and split fingers. So again, mentally,
Speaker 7: the challenge is going to be there. He's gonna look
Speaker 7: you know, he's got much stronger, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 7: But for any pitcher, Dave, when you talk about an
Speaker 7: uptick in velocity, believe me, the pride, the ego grows
Speaker 7: and says, you know what, I'm here, That's where I
Speaker 7: want to be.
Speaker 2: Hose, what did you think about the play at the
Speaker 2: plate in the seventh inning on that RBI based sit
Speaker 2: by Mookie beds Andy Potter has slid never touch home play.
Speaker 2: JT Real Mudo never went back to tag him. They
Speaker 2: go to the challenge and the call is upheld. Take
Speaker 2: us through what you saw on that plane. You know,
Speaker 2: I felt like Piz was very fortunate to escape without
Speaker 2: hurting his ankle on a really bad slide.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's number one. Remember that home plate area usually
Speaker 7: is a little bit sticky because the hitters want to
Speaker 7: not have, you know, their feet slipping in the batter's box.
Speaker 7: So you got to be careful the way you slide.
Speaker 7: You slide much differently at home play because there's no
Speaker 7: actually surface that you can step on. Everything flat the
Speaker 7: way you would slide against the base, and you know,
Speaker 7: let's call it first, second, and third. Now what I
Speaker 7: saw is Pies just not being able to drag his
Speaker 7: foot across home plate. And now without catchers blocking home
Speaker 7: plate legally, you see more guys diving in and using
Speaker 7: the left hand to slide in and find the play.
Speaker 7: But it's not a decision that you can make, you know,
Speaker 7: last matter, you've got to be careful how you do it.
Speaker 7: And you know, real Muto in that case, a veteran Castro,
Speaker 7: I was surprised that if there's any doubt beyond you
Speaker 7: tagging him, which obviously he didn't, but go back and
Speaker 7: tech the guy. No matter what, just go back just
Speaker 7: in case. So that's what the you know, Matting has
Speaker 7: got some clearance on that, and you know clarification as
Speaker 7: to the challenge what it was. But real Muto going
Speaker 7: back and tagging him, I think it becomes an out.
Speaker 2: Would you have slid head first if your andy pat hasn't?
Speaker 2: For any runner these days with having to be given
Speaker 2: a lane, is it a lot safer now to slide
Speaker 2: head first rather than what we grew up knowing? And
Speaker 2: you're taught to go feed first into home plate especially, it.
Speaker 7: Is one where you have to decide early what's happening.
Speaker 7: You have to tell yourself exactly if you're going to
Speaker 7: go in hard, don't go in too early because you're
Speaker 7: gonna get stuck. You've got to pretty much anticipate at
Speaker 7: least a little bit of a contact with the catcher
Speaker 7: to take his feet out of him to slide feed first. Now,
Speaker 7: a lot of guys don't feel comfortable, you know, I
Speaker 7: don't see if Freddie Freeman sliding you know, headfirst into
Speaker 7: home play. But it is a pattern now which in
Speaker 7: fact organizations are telling guys because now they have protection
Speaker 7: in their hands and the wrists to do it more
Speaker 7: often because there's always going to be some white exposed
Speaker 7: at home plate, which, as you mentioned, for years, for
Speaker 7: generations you were told do not ever dive into home
Speaker 7: play because you're gonna get hurt. But now you're going
Speaker 7: to be fine that shing. Are you going to find
Speaker 7: more open lane to do it, but you got to
Speaker 7: feel comfortable doing it. You can't force it, but nonetheless
Speaker 7: you're going to find more open spots if you do that.
Speaker 7: For Anti Pyrus, that would have been tonight if he's
Speaker 7: going to if first, just go a little bit later
Speaker 7: and make sure that your feet are dragging and don't
Speaker 7: pick him up.
Speaker 2: The picture on the mount for the Phillies in the
Speaker 2: seventh inning was Oriyan Keckering, who obviously does not have
Speaker 2: great memories after what took place at the end of
Speaker 2: Game four of last year's NLDS. Did you feel like
Speaker 2: he had some nerves when he first went out there.
Speaker 7: I think there's some thinking about the moment of what
Speaker 7: happened back on, you know, that day on Game four
Speaker 7: when he came to relief Lozardo, who was a losing
Speaker 7: pitcher that night, and the a couple of pitches through
Speaker 7: to show, hey, you know, the up and end kind
Speaker 7: of got show here awakened a little bit more. But
Speaker 7: then the one he spiked, who was like, I'm over
Speaker 7: trying here, But you know what, his stuff is so good.
Speaker 7: And one thing I've learned from the guys in Philly,
Speaker 7: Dave is he talked to a lot of guys yourself too.
Speaker 7: Is they really respect Number one? The Phillies were not
Speaker 7: trying to trade him. Not easy to, you know, fail
Speaker 7: in Philadelphia and go through a whole off season like that.
Speaker 7: Number two is for charactering to really step up and say,
Speaker 7: I want to go out there and do the best
Speaker 7: I can to just remove that from the memory. It's
Speaker 7: not going to be eliminated overall, one hundred percent, but
Speaker 7: I need to go and prove that I'm not that
Speaker 7: kind of picture and I can go out there and
Speaker 7: play cash and his stuff plays quite well. He got himself,
Speaker 7: you know, a nice situation in that any where he
Speaker 7: showed the stuff that he has because he had more
Speaker 7: than one pitture to get you out. But you know
Speaker 7: it's gonna live forever. But I do applaud the way
Speaker 7: the Phillies have handled him and Dave Don braskam the
Speaker 7: top to Rob Thompson, now Dom Mattley, because the guy
Speaker 7: it's a big piece with that bothend for them.
Speaker 2: All right, Jose, We'll see how tomorrow goes down. On paper,
Speaker 2: it looks like it's a mismatch, but you know how
Speaker 2: things go in the game of baseball. But Yamamoto's on
Speaker 2: the mound, and I have a feeling that Dodgers will
Speaker 2: have a happy flight to the desert after a Sunday
Speaker 2: fun day against the Phillies.
Speaker 7: Dave about it was not gante. Let's make a Domingo
Speaker 7: very alleging, very happy. What do you think? Oh?
Speaker 3: I love that, Jose. That's gonna be a T shirt
Speaker 3: one day.
Speaker 7: Happy Sunday.
Speaker 2: Okay, Ose, we'll see you tomorrow. Quick turnaround for the
Speaker 2: Dodgers in Phillies. A day game on getaway day for
Speaker 2: both these teams. And Don Mattingley, the interim manager for
Speaker 2: the Phillies. We had a chance to catch up with
Speaker 2: him on the pregame show and like I mentioned earlier,
Speaker 2: first time Don Mattingly has been back to Dodgers Stadium
Speaker 2: since what game five of last year's World Series, and obviously,
Speaker 2: the Blue Jays won two out of three of the
Speaker 2: games played here at Dodgers Stadium. One they lost an
Speaker 2: eighteen inning affair that Freddie Freeman ended on a walk
Speaker 2: off home run. But Don Mattingly first time to the
Speaker 2: World Series as a player, as a coach, as a manager,
Speaker 2: I asked him before the game, how long did it
Speaker 2: take for him to get over the Miguel Rojas home run,
Speaker 2: the Will Smith home run in the eleventh inning, and
Speaker 2: the Dodgers beating the Blue Jays in Game seven of
Speaker 2: the World Series.
Speaker 6: It was pretty cool. It was fun. You know, it
Speaker 6: meant a lot to get to the World Series.
Speaker 11: Honestly, that's something that you fight to get to and
Speaker 11: have an opportunity to win.
Speaker 6: Obviously that didn't happen.
Speaker 11: But being able to get to my first World Series
Speaker 11: and then Snyde you know, want me to do that,
Speaker 11: it was it.
Speaker 6: Was pretty cool. Were you surprised by that gesture?
Speaker 7: I was?
Speaker 6: I was when do you spring it on you? I
Speaker 6: don't know. I was probably way too nervous for that.
Speaker 2: Also, when you lose a seven game World Series, obviously
Speaker 2: it's tough to get over. How long did it take
Speaker 2: you to get over it.
Speaker 6: It took a minute, you know, it really did.
Speaker 11: And not so much for myself really more for our
Speaker 11: team bocause those guys played really hard. We accomplished a lot,
Speaker 11: played great in that World Series, I thought. And so
Speaker 11: you feel bad for our guys, you know, those guys
Speaker 11: were you know, obviously, when you want something bad and
Speaker 11: you've worked hard for it, it's crushing when you don't
Speaker 11: get it and you're you know, it's within your grasp.
Speaker 6: So that was that was a tough time. But I
Speaker 6: think of it more not so much for me personally,
Speaker 6: but more for our players.
Speaker 3: All Right.
Speaker 2: That was Don Mattingley and really the first time we've
Speaker 2: had a chance to talk to him since everything that
Speaker 2: happened with the Dodgers celebrating back to back World Series championships.
Speaker 2: And if you remember, when Don Mattingley was the manager
Speaker 2: with the Dodgers, Clayton Khrushaw.
Speaker 3: Was coming into his own.
Speaker 2: He won two Cy Young's with Don Mattingley, won an
Speaker 2: MVP with Don Mattingley as the manager, and you know,
Speaker 2: Clayton Krushaw was at the peak of his powers when
Speaker 2: Don Mattinglee was the manager of the Dodgers, and at
Speaker 2: that point in time, Krushaw was very stubborn in a
Speaker 2: lot of different ways. And to this day Kershaw being
Speaker 2: in the stands last night, to this day, Clayton Kershaw
Speaker 2: and Don Mattingley still have a mutual respect for each other.
Speaker 11: No, it was always good, and I'd tell guys, I
Speaker 11: don't I never get mad when the guys doesn't want
Speaker 11: to come out of the game. Obviously you don't want
Speaker 11: him to show you up on the mound, but you're
Speaker 11: not asking guys to be happy to be coming out
Speaker 11: of the game. And remember Clayton told me one time,
Speaker 11: he said, you take me out whenever you think he goes,
Speaker 11: but don't take me out because you think.
Speaker 6: I'm tired, because he says, I don't get tired, right,
Speaker 6: So I'm like, O get girls. So I always like that.
Speaker 2: Hey, it was great to catch up with Don Mattinglee
Speaker 2: and his boss, the GM of the Phillies, Preston Mattingly.
Speaker 2: It was really great to spend a lot of time
Speaker 2: with those two guys these last two days and to
Speaker 2: hear the full Converse station with Don Mattingley. You know
Speaker 2: where to find it on the iHeartRadio app. Don and
Speaker 2: the Phillies will be here tomorrow as the Dodgers try
Speaker 2: to win this series against Philadelphia with Yamamoto on the
Speaker 2: mound four and for the record for Yamamoto this year
Speaker 2: is eras three zero nine, going up against right hander
Speaker 2: Andrew Payner, who's one in five with an ERA of
Speaker 2: five forty. Our coverage begins tomorrow at noon with first
Speaker 2: pitch at one ten with Rick Monday and Steven Nelson.
Speaker 2: That'll do it for us tonight on Dodger Talk. Thanks
Speaker 2: for hanging late night with us on this Saturday night,
Speaker 2: thanks to colling Ye back at our Burbank studios, Thanks
Speaker 2: to Dwayne McDonald out here at Dodgers Stadium, and thanks
Speaker 2: to you for listening in case you missed any of
Speaker 2: the show or any of our pregame conversations with the
Speaker 2: two managers of these teams. The last two Dodger managers,
Speaker 2: Dave Roberts joins us the first game of this series,
Speaker 2: and Don Mattingley joined us before today's game, so you
Speaker 2: can find all of those conversations on the iHeartRadio app
Speaker 2: once again. The final score tonight from Dodgers Stadium. The
Speaker 2: Phillies score three in the eighth to beat the Dodgers
Speaker 2: four to three.
Speaker 3: We'll talk to you tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Have a great rest of your night, Be safe, see
Speaker 2: them