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Speaker 1: I said to myself, Dan, this program is not based

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Speaker 1: So if you try to turn the one hour or

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Speaker 1: two where I can justify it, or more easily justify

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Speaker 1: talking about what took place last night the impossible taking

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Speaker 1: think we can do it. Starting with today's game Vikings

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Speaker 1: game high noon right here in the fan pregame ten o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Should the new battle cry for the Minnesota Vikings the

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Speaker 2: That's the question.

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Speaker 1: Fernando, of course, is the starting quarterback, the seemingly almost

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Speaker 2: One hundred and thirty fourth ranked.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, they didn't steal them from Miami

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Speaker 1: And now we have to ask, as JJ McCarthy gets

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Speaker 2: Should we flop for Fernando?

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Speaker 1: Would this team's long term interests be better served if

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Speaker 1: It sounds to drafting a quarterback with our first round

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Speaker 1: in Michigan and went very well, very very too, Davy.

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Speaker 1: But I got to tell you, boys and girls, the

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I don't think there's any danger.

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Speaker 2: It's a bad argument.

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Speaker 1: Many games in a row Indiana has lost to as

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Speaker 1: But I attended, actually this particular game, I didn't attend,

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Speaker 4: At the top of the album Sunday Sermon's brought to

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Speaker 1: Thirty in a row, Ohio State had won the last

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Speaker 1: history now stands Indiana thirteen wins, Ohio State eighty one victories,

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Speaker 1: at six four six eight six And do you believe

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Speaker 1: there have to be some records worse than ours right now,

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Speaker 1: Sunday will commence at ten am, opening kickoff just past noon,

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Speaker 1: and then the second game of the doubleheader.

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Speaker 1: It's two losing teams, your Packers club playing for first

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Speaker 1: times over the years, and I'm not sure we ever

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00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 1: covered this subject because I'm not sure I was ever

437
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 1: aware of it.

438
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 2: Now I'm assuming somebody's doing a hope.

439
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: Somebody's doing a fact check that Fran is accurate and

440
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: you know, not just sort of exaggerating the picture from

441
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: back then. But if true, it is pretty stunning. Now

442
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: we know Bud prided himself on less is more. In fact,

443
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: he thought that was part of his success. He didn't

444
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: believe in just driving players mercilessly forever.

445
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: He was tough. He had tough practices, but.

446
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: They weren't as long and he was, you know, notorious

447
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: for I don't want my coaches in the office at

448
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: two in the morning. You're not impressing me. Go do

449
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 1: something else. It's healthier. And at some point analysis paralysis

450
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 1: by analysis ends up working against the team if there's

451
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: too much of it. But it is stunning if it's

452
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 1: true that you wouldn't completely I mean, use at least

453
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: part of that week to prepare and to prepare your team. Now,

454
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: is that Fran looking for an explanation for statistically not

455
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: very good performances in the three Viking Super Bowls. He

456
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: was a part of Miami Pittsburgh Oakland, in which, of course,

457
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: the Vikings lost all three one touchdown, six interceptions for

458
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: fran and a quarterback rating of forty three point seven.

459
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: That includes against Pittsburgh eleven for twenty six, one hundred

460
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: and two yards, zero touchdowns, three picks, quarterback rating of

461
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: fourteen point one. That's a JJ McCarthy quarterback rating you're

462
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: talking about there.

463
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: So who knows?

464
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: I mean, is that him trying to, you know, looking back,

465
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: taking a little of the pressure off himself, maybe because

466
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: he didn't perform particularly well. But we know the world

467
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: was different then, and I'm assuming generally teams didn't prepare

468
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: as long as when I say as long, but in

469
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: as many days as they would now in this specialized

470
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: world where he got you know, twenty two assistant coaches

471
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: and all that sort of thing. But I did find

472
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: that pretty interesting, And frankly, there were stretches of several

473
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: of those games in which it looked like the fightens

474
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: hadn't practiced. So who knows whether any of that would

475
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: have made a difference, or they just weren't as good

476
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: as they thought they were, or they just didn't rise

477
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: up to the occasion. But I didn't think that was

478
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: rather interesting. This is from Ron out of Golden Valley.

479
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what Ryan Day thinking last night, especially

480
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: if he's willing to settle for the tie on fourth down.

481
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: Ohio State now running on third and one with a

482
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: running back averaging four point eighty eight yards per carrying

483
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: the game out, thinking yourself with the game in the balance,

484
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: very koc like, Well, it's interesting because.

485
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: I look at it a little differently. I was not

486
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: as offended as.

487
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: Other people that they didn't go for it on that

488
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: second fourth and one with four minutes to go to

489
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: tie the game. I don't think that was an indefensible decision.

490
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: But I do think, and this goes back to the

491
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: play calling part, if my intention is to not go

492
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: forward on fourth and one, then I don't pass on

493
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: third down. In other words, if I'm going to try

494
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: to pass a tricky pass play on third down and one,

495
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: as they did, and I think he ended up going

496
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: to another receiver in the end zone, great defensive play

497
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: to knock it away.

498
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: That to me is the problem with the sequence.

499
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: If I want to try take one shot at the

500
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: end zone or just by throwing on third down, that

501
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying to everybody, but I'm going to take a

502
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: shot on the ground too. I'm going for it on

503
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: fourth down. So for me, it's more the place selection

504
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: on third down. If you do not intend to go

505
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: for it on fourth down, and we'll never know the

506
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: answer to it, you know, what was the right decision.

507
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: And then you know, I mean, obviously the kid misses

508
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: the field goal. Indiana missed a not quite as close

509
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: but a very makeable field goal in the first half

510
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: as well. The other story that, and you know, Guardian

511
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: and I have talked about this going all the way

512
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: back to much earlier in the season. To me, what's

513
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,719
Speaker 1: different about Indiana even from a year ago, is just

514
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: how stout they are at the line of scrimmage. That

515
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,959
Speaker 1: they are really good defensively up front. I think they

516
00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: had five sacks early on saying, and then their linebackers

517
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: are disciplined, they play apparently almost all zone. They just

518
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: don't make very many mistakes. It's a really good, damn

519
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: good defense. But the line of scrimmage, they're very good

520
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: offensively and defensive and defensive and now their offensive line

521
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: is a little league because I think the right tackles

522
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: hurt the regular and so Fernando had to move around

523
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: a little bit and he got nailed a few times.

524
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: But to me, it's at the line of scrimmage that

525
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: they're good. The other story that's emerged by the way,

526
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: they're arguably their second best receiver got hurt early in

527
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: the game, was not available the rest of the game.

528
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: And Charlie Becker, who ended up being the hero late

529
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: in the season.

530
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: Through the first nine games of this year, he caught

531
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: seven passes. He ends up being a star the rest

532
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: of the season for them. In the Penn State game,

533
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: huge and obviously it was massive again last night.

534
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: How did you feel about the.

535
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: You know, just taking the three points or trying to

536
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: take the three points on the fourth and one.

537
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 5: I mean, it ended up working out for him, and

538
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 5: they know what they're doing is you just don't want

539
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 5: to pull a you know, you know, no.

540
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: It didn't work out for him. You missed the field goal.

541
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is would they be better should Ohio

542
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: State in that situation you're down three four minutes to go,

543
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: do you say we're Ohio State, We're going for it

544
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: on fourth down in one because you ain't gonna stop us.

545
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: Now if we're ever going to prove what we are.

546
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna prove it on this play, and we're gonna

547
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: keep going. And even if eventually we have to settle

548
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: for a field goal, we're gonna keep running out clock,

549
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: or we're gonna go ahead and get a touchdown and

550
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: win the game.

551
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,959
Speaker 2: Right now, I thought you were talking about something else. Yeah.

552
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 5: I mean, if you're the big bat Ohio State and

553
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 5: you want to put everything on the table, and I'd

554
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 5: say you go for it. It doesn't always work out though,

555
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 5: you know, if you think back to last week Vikings game,

556
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 5: you go for it, you try to get too cute

557
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 5: and it turns into disaster. I was watching a little

558
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 5: bit of the Georgia Alabama game and they went forward

559
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 5: on a handful of fourth downs where there's a person

560
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 5: going to run the ball right at you because we're

561
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 5: better than you.

562
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

563
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 5: So you got to have the execution to do it,

564
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 5: and I for whatever reason, you just have any trust

565
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 5: in them.

566
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: Dan Fellow, who's your here living in Minnesota? So like you,

567
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: I'm not really one of us. Grew up right down

568
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: Highway thirty seven from Bloomington in Bedford, Indiana. Never thought

569
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: I would see the day, watch the whole game. Still

570
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: can't believe it. Let me get to a couple more ts. Oh,

571
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: while I'm looking for some more texts. Of course, now

572
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: it's logged me out and now I'm gonna have to

573
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: go through that nonsense.

574
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: What's happening to do?

575
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: Are you ready to get worried about the wild because

576
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,479
Speaker 1: then we lose to another bad team.

577
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a team that they've dominated this season in

578
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 5: Minnesota and Vancouver.

579
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it sucks. I'm not on the panic.

580
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 5: It's hard to you know, it has been two or

581
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 5: three stinkers, and Heines has been very vocal about who was.

582
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: In that last night it was Wolstet.

583
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 5: Uh oh yeah, not great. It's been a couple of

584
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 5: games where Heines has said they got out, competed, outskated out,

585
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 5: blanked out, blanked out, blanked and you name it. But

586
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 5: does that overrule a month of unbelievable hockey. I don't

587
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 5: think so yet. No it does not. I do think

588
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 5: they're going to have to do something. I agree with

589
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 5: what Pat said yesterday and beyond the pond that they're

590
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 5: going to have to do something. The deadline to contend

591
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 5: and what does he want what's he looking for? Top six?

592
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 5: And well, I think he would like to see ROSSI

593
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 5: out the door. I'm obviously not of that mind. Don't

594
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 5: want to put too many words in his mouth. You

595
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 5: agree to disagree on that, Yeah, but I do think

596
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 5: they need to add and it stinks that it's they've

597
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 5: put together a couple of stingers announced become more of

598
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 5: a trend than a mirage.

599
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: But I don't think it outweighs the month of November yet.

600
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: But if you put together one or two more, you

601
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 2: want to see it.

602
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, It's it's not good to just not be competitive

603
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 5: in games that you should be competitive in.

604
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: All right, I'm looking for Have you seen any updates?

605
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: Because I have not?

606
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: On our two offensive lineman both listed his questionable including

607
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: Christian dearrisaw has anything been mentioned via social media to

608
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: this point? Because I I don't see anything, but I'm

609
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: gonna keep looking just in case Daniels is playing for Washington. Correct,

610
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: I think that much wetter.

611
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:12,919
Speaker 2: True.

612
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: Look, I'm gonna check one other place here. No, I'm

613
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: not seeing anything. Yeah, So I guess it's maybe it's

614
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: a little too soon, but I'm sure we'll be getting

615
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: that very very shortly. Again, I mean the the whether

616
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: you believe in flopping for Fernando or not, the storyline

617
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: is the reason people will watch today is Okay, let's

618
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: see how if the kid can play a little better, right,

619
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's basically it.

620
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 2: I mean, it's all now. All the eyes are gonna

621
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: be on McCarthy.

622
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: And as I said Friday, you know, originally my thought was, well,

623
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: in a sense, the pressure is off because even if

624
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: he has mistakes, commits some some mistake during the game,

625
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: it won't feel like there's as much at stake because

626
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 1: the team is no longer competing for a playoff spot,

627
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: which is the goal when the season began. On the

628
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: other hand, because the next three teams the Vikings play

629
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: starting with today have statistically speaking, three of the worst

630
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: five defenses in the league, that is going to add

631
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: I think a certain burden back to JJ as in,

632
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: I'm bet it, man, I'm better get something done in

633
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: these games around They're really going to be down on

634
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: me here.

635
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: In this town.

636
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: I also believe, and you said you're going so you're

637
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: going to be able to be a judge of this.

638
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: I think this is one of those occasions when the

639
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: crowd could get could get surly very easily. If the

640
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: Vikings struggle early offensively again, oh, I think they'll turn

641
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: pretty quickly there. Now, if he plays well, they'll cheer,

642
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: they'll be back on it and they'll say, yeah, let's go.

643
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: Maybe he's figuring some stuff out. But I'm just saying

644
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: if he struggles against this defense, against a three and

645
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: nine team at home, it will become a hostile environment

646
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: very quickly.

647
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 5: Don't you think the only birds that the big glass

648
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 5: windows can't kill her the boo birds? Apparently they they will.

649
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 5: I mean, if if it's a third and four and

650
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 5: JJ airmails justin Jefferson ways exactly, I mean, they're going

651
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 5: to come out exactly. But we mentioned earlier that if

652
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 5: the season ends today in Minnesota would be drafting eleventh.

653
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 5: One of the teams ahead of them is Washington at six.

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Speaker 5: So okay, something to keep in mind. If jj Airmail

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Speaker 5: is a pass, maybe it's not all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I will have to see how that goes. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't, I mean, I I will be well. I

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Speaker 1: was about to saying it gonna be shocked if we

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Speaker 1: see brosmur again this season, but you can't say that

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Speaker 1: because JJ, among other things, also hats to prove he

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Speaker 1: can stay healthy. And so who knows, I mean, there

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Speaker 1: could be another he could get nicked up, some other injury,

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Speaker 1: God forbid, another you know, concussion protocol.

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Speaker 2: Kind of a thing.

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Speaker 1: Who's to say, and we could end up seeing a

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Speaker 1: little bit more of a Brosmer. In all honesty, Brozmer

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00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: probably deserves a second chance too. If McCarthy deserves a fifth, sixth,

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Speaker 1: and seventh chance, then Broser at some point probably deserves

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Speaker 1: a second. But all the eyes are on McCarthy the

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Speaker 1: rest of the season because this team has invested so

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Speaker 1: much in him, and I do think I hope they've

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Speaker 1: figured out trying to burnish the legend of JJ before

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Speaker 1: he performs was a just a massive blunder. You know,

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Speaker 1: about the alter ego and the toughness, and he'll run

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Speaker 1: through walls for you and all all the factor all

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Speaker 1: these things that we've heard about him might end up

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Speaker 1: being true, but they don't stick without results. And when

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Speaker 1: the results have been as putrid as they've been so far,

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Speaker 1: even though it's again not nearly enough of a sample

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Speaker 1: size to make any firm draw any firm conclusions, then

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Speaker 1: nobody's you know, the people are gonna start rolling their

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Speaker 1: eyes about the myths. You're better off sort of keeping

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Speaker 1: it to play better, help him play better. Just make

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Speaker 1: just put together three or four or five plays in

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Speaker 1: a row, right, and then in one drive, and then

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Speaker 1: maybe you do it in a second drive in the

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Speaker 1: second quarter, and you and you just build on it

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00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: that way. And they don't have to be spectacular plays.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they just have to be first down plays.

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Speaker 1: And if you can mix in something that's big, that's

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Speaker 1: good too, because what's weird is if if the head

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Speaker 1: coach really believed everything he said about his fundamentals, then

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Speaker 1: he still has to improve his fundamentals. And just because

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Speaker 1: they're now saying forget about that doesn't mean it wasn't relevant.

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Speaker 1: It just means they're desperate right now and they're worried

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Speaker 1: that they're gonna end up the players gonna end up

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Speaker 1: going into a confidence spin in the wrong direction. And

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Speaker 1: so we're doing the old let's just go ahead and

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Speaker 1: make some plays, yes, go I just you know, don't

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Speaker 1: don't overthink it, because there is such a thing as overthinking.

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Speaker 1: Although I think that the head coach is probably contributed

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Speaker 1: to that by trying to put too much on his

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00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: plate too soon. By the way, there's I don't see

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Speaker 1: any defense that Fernando can't solve.

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Speaker 2: I mean everything. I mean it looks to me like just.

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Speaker 1: You want to throw a man at him, you want

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Speaker 1: to throw his zone, you want him to throw short.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, you want him. You want him to throw

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Speaker 1: a dart when it has to be made thirty two

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00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: yards down a field to basically ice the game, He'll

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Speaker 1: do that too. So you know, flopping for Fernando might

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Speaker 1: not be the worst idea. My guess is we're not

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Speaker 1: going to be able to flop badly enough to catch

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Speaker 1: some of those other teams.

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Speaker 2: We'll have to see. They're on pace. They've lost four

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Speaker 2: in a row. Yeah, you're right about that. It's a

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Speaker 2: four game losing streak.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, if they don't win tonight or today,

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Speaker 1: they may well go with only one home victory this season.

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Speaker 1: The Cincinnati game is their only one.

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Speaker 5: I do wanted to spell one thing. Yes, no Green

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Speaker 5: and Gold will be warned by me today. Good for you,

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Speaker 5: I condemn that. Are you confident about your game three

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Speaker 5: twenty five? I'm optimistic. I'm not confident.

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Speaker 1: But it's bear weather. I mean, it's not snowy, but

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Speaker 1: it's hacker weather.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 1: It's also a packer weather. They did play the Ice

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Speaker 1: Bowl and win it, didn't they.

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Speaker 2: That is true. It's a very good point. Push push,

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Speaker 2: Brett Blake Moore. Thank you for your help today.

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Speaker 1: Vikings Football Sunday is right around the corner and we

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Speaker 1: will join you tomorrow once again at three o'clock on

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Speaker 1: bumper to bumper, bumper Bob.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk then