WEBVTT - Disciplining Josiah

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<v Speaker 1>All right, it is the Mojo in the morning show.

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<v Speaker 1>The phone number is eight four four Mojo Live eight

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<v Speaker 1>four four six sixty five six five four eight. Kev's

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<v Speaker 1>told us in our pre show meeting that Josiah was

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. I don't know. I say bad because

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<v Speaker 1>Josiah can never be bad. Josiah's bad is not bad,

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<v Speaker 1>is it? No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, he's not He's not bad. That's not the word

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<v Speaker 2>I would use. I was, he say, But I had

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<v Speaker 2>a little attitude problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Josiah's off for school for two weeks for spring break,

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<v Speaker 2>and I basically allowed Joe to kind of do whatever

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<v Speaker 2>he want to do, like it's like a free vacation,

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<v Speaker 2>no real rules, kind of go to sleep kind of whenever,

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<v Speaker 2>as long as he go to be about three, like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm straight. But with this freedom, Josiah does not like

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<v Speaker 2>when you try to take away that freedom or limit

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<v Speaker 2>that freedom. And I feel like he has a hard

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<v Speaker 2>time understanding how blessed he is to stay up as

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<v Speaker 2>long as he wants to, to be able to go

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<v Speaker 2>in refrigerator and get whatever he wants to, to watch TV,

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<v Speaker 2>to go to sleep at three am, to play these

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<v Speaker 2>games that he forgets. How amazing. That is for five

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<v Speaker 2>or six days straight. So when the seventh day comes

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<v Speaker 2>and you tell him no, we about to do something else,

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't respond in the way that I think he

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<v Speaker 2>should respond. And ever since Josiah was born, his mom

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<v Speaker 2>and I have allowed him to vocalize his opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>We never wanted to silence him.

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<v Speaker 2>We never wanted them to feel like just because he's

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<v Speaker 2>a child, he doesn't have a voice. And when he

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<v Speaker 2>asks questions, we don't just say because I said so,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we like to provide a reason, although sometimes you

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<v Speaker 2>don't need to know the reason.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it is because I say so. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>neither here nor there.

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<v Speaker 2>So it comes to a point where I'm telling Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Saia like, this is what we're going to do. Shut

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<v Speaker 2>down everything else, and he starts to talk back. He

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<v Speaker 2>start to pop off with his mouth, and a piece

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<v Speaker 2>of me is like, Nah, don't hit Josiah. I've never

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<v Speaker 2>been well, I don't like beating kids and all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel me. I donet been through guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd have had my ass with several I just don't feel

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<v Speaker 2>like that's the best way to approach these type of situations.

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<v Speaker 2>But it'd be the moments where it's like, dog, I

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<v Speaker 2>need to like I want to beat your ass like copus,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, but like I don't. So

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<v Speaker 2>my thing was we was about to watch it movie

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<v Speaker 2>when I got popcorn pizza, the whole vibe. He was

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<v Speaker 2>still popping off his arm, like, shut all this down

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<v Speaker 2>to go to give me your damn eyepass. Shut down

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<v Speaker 2>the laptop like all that, take your ass upstairs, you

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<v Speaker 2>go want to bid seven o'clock, Like you go to bid.

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<v Speaker 2>He's still I'm like, take your ass to bid, and

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<v Speaker 2>I shut down everything. And he woke go the next

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<v Speaker 2>morning and he was cool, but he still had a

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<v Speaker 2>little spice to him, and I'm like, dog, like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what to do for it.

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<v Speaker 1>So even after you took away all the fun stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't wake up the next morning going dad, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>Can I have my stuff back? Or he you can

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<v Speaker 1>tell he woke up different.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe the long sleep that he had helped, but he

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<v Speaker 2>still had a little bit of spice in him, like

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<v Speaker 2>he was still a little bit like the punishment wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>long enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it's thirteen, and that's in my mom I'm like Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you're clearly going through a change right now, and I

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<v Speaker 2>need to not necessarily, I need to understand that and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, walk through that with you. But that still

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't give you license to act up.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I body slammed Jo. I'll get him in

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<v Speaker 1>a second. Here him in our back, in our kitchen,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know exactly where I was standing, right in

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<v Speaker 1>front of the stove. He talked back and I looked

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<v Speaker 1>at him and I said what and he said it again?

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<v Speaker 1>And he was middle school and I literally picked him

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<v Speaker 1>up and I picked him up, grabbed him and put

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<v Speaker 1>him to the ground and got on top of him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, you fat as it was. It wasn't funny

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<v Speaker 1>to Chelsea. Chelsea was like, because Chelsea's like, how cav was.

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<v Speaker 1>Chelsea's like, we do not touch the kids. We did that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I go, Chelsea, I'm sorry. But he needed it

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<v Speaker 1>at that moment. He needed that moment to have stone

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<v Speaker 1>cold Steve dad. Yeah, you know that's how I'm feeling,

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<v Speaker 1>dog like.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember my dad and I we got into two

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like fistfights when I was younger. One he

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<v Speaker 2>took me outside and I don't remember if I ran

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<v Speaker 2>back in and locked the door on him or what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>But something happened there and then the other one was

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<v Speaker 2>in my grandma bedroom and I caught him. But I

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<v Speaker 2>remember when I was younger, we used to spend a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of time at my grandma's house and my uncle

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<v Speaker 2>the worst punishment that ever happened. He used to make

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<v Speaker 2>me sit downstairs on the basement steps and he used

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<v Speaker 2>to make me sit there for hours, bro, And I

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<v Speaker 2>remember I used to fall asleep sometimes I was there

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<v Speaker 2>so long. But that was the worst punishment ever. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think immediately we try to go to physical and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like that for many reasons. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that's the best way or the ultimate, you know, course correction.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. I need some help, bro. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what. One two friends that offered to do something

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<v Speaker 1>for me. I never did it with the keis and

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to do it, we'll do it. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the friends was the whole scared straight thing. He

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<v Speaker 1>worked at the presence, yeah, and was basically just going

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<v Speaker 1>see what it looks like. That was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things never did that. The other one was a friend

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<v Speaker 1>of mine that wanted their church volunteered and they did

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<v Speaker 1>the whole picking up stuff on the sides of the

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<v Speaker 1>road things, but it was almost kind of like putting

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<v Speaker 1>the kids to like labor where they had to do something. See,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he need like his thing isn't to

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<v Speaker 1>that extreme.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't think I need to have him go

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<v Speaker 2>to jail and do the scary straight thing or pick

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<v Speaker 2>up trash. I think, honestly, maybe I just need to

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<v Speaker 2>not give him as much freedom well so that when

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<v Speaker 2>I take it away, it's not like this crazy you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you give her UNO card.

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<v Speaker 1>You basically said for two weeks, you could go to

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<v Speaker 1>bed at any time you want to and you can

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever you want to. I mean you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>as are asking, you know, what to turn is.

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<v Speaker 3>So does he get like this with Jasmin?

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<v Speaker 1>And so this this week he with Jasmine.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, she's gonna call me sometimes and like she

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<v Speaker 2>she said, Joe be crashing out sometimes, but it's mostly

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<v Speaker 2>around like school work, Like he has a heavy load

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<v Speaker 2>of schoolwork. So there will be moments whereas he just

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<v Speaker 2>he's overwhelmed. Yeah, and she'll allow him to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like rage a little bit and being real and back in.

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<v Speaker 2>But this had nothing to do with school where it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you had a reason for behaving the

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<v Speaker 2>way you did other than the fact that you just

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<v Speaker 2>wanted another night to stay to three am of roadblocks

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<v Speaker 2>And I told you couldn't be on the call with

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<v Speaker 2>the homies you on the call week.

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned this on the air when Shannon talked about, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know Lucy a couple of weeks ago with something,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, when you are a middle school kid,

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<v Speaker 1>your hormones are like crazy, You're going through a change

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<v Speaker 1>in your body, like all this stuff. Middle school is

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<v Speaker 1>the one time in my kid's life, the three years

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<v Speaker 1>of my kid's life that I wish I could forget. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>they oh, they hated apparently, you know us and Chelsea

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<v Speaker 1>always understood it. I didn't understand it. I'm like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>why are they hating me? I didn't do anything that

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<v Speaker 1>so hard?

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<v Speaker 4>Like keV, I don't know what to do either half

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<v Speaker 4>the time with lou and she's in sixth grade with

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<v Speaker 4>Size and seventh grade, and it like I feel for

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<v Speaker 4>their I feel for them and what they're going through

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<v Speaker 4>and like these emotions that they don't know what to

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<v Speaker 4>do with, And I feel like a crazy person because

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<v Speaker 4>at the same time, I'm going through the same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>So like when Lucy's crashing out, I feel like I

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<v Speaker 4>start to crash out too, and that just makes the

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<v Speaker 4>situation so much worse.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's like I'm trying to like deflate. Is that

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<v Speaker 5>even the word?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, deflet myself before I like tend to her.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard.

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<v Speaker 5>It's hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Anthony, Hey, guys, what's going on morning?

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<v Speaker 6>All right? So keV hear me out. I'm literally going

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<v Speaker 6>through the same thing that you're going through with my

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<v Speaker 6>son Jacob. But the problem is he's ten and in

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<v Speaker 6>fifth grade. So when they go on like breaks and

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<v Speaker 6>things like that, or even on the weekends, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I let him stay up talk this homies on social

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<v Speaker 6>you know, the little social media and all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 6>and the Fortnite calls that they're on. But there comes

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<v Speaker 6>a time where I'm like, okay, Jacob is Sunday time,

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<v Speaker 6>is said everything down. I usually have him shut everything

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<v Speaker 6>down at a thirty He'll get an attitude and you know, again,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like you, I don't put my hands on my kid,

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<v Speaker 6>but I'll give him a certain look and then he'll

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<v Speaker 6>just start room raging through the room, trying to straighten

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<v Speaker 6>stuff up, but messing it up at the same time.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm like, oh, okay, that's what we're doing. So I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know if you're familiar with what's going on. The

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<v Speaker 6>new trend is like you know, how you make your

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<v Speaker 6>kids exercise or do the Drew Hills or and all that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm like, Okay, you got all this energy, you

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<v Speaker 6>want to roy, you want a room rage, Let's go ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>Let's go out in the garage and go into the gym.

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<v Speaker 6>Because my garage is a gym. I'm like, okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 6>let's go out here. I said, you got five minutes

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<v Speaker 6>of Drew Hils, and I'll tell you when to stop.

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<v Speaker 6>Said I don't want to do that. I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 6>to hear it.

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<v Speaker 7>Go ahead, you got.

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<v Speaker 6>All the energy, Let's go ahead and do that. Let's

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<v Speaker 6>go ahead and go out here, and then maybe afterwards

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<v Speaker 6>you think about how he came across with the situation,

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<v Speaker 6>you know what I mean. So maybe make him do

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<v Speaker 6>a few Drew Hills.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, Drew Hill to R and B group,

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<v Speaker 2>So there are dance moves that take place in Drew Hill,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's like a jump hop. So that's like the

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<v Speaker 2>punishment was like over and over.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin put on five steps, so we gonna get busy, Kevin.

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<v Speaker 1>My Joe just walked in. Joe, do you remember when

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<v Speaker 1>you were in middle school and I wrestled your ass

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<v Speaker 1>to the ground in the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 3>I won that fight. I don't know what you're talking about, Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I probably did What did I do?

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<v Speaker 1>You were mouthing off, you were talking back.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, yeah, I think I probably said something to

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<v Speaker 3>my mom and then uh my mom gave my dad

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<v Speaker 3>a look and was like, be the man.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the only he was the only guy I

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<v Speaker 1>knew I could take. I would never be able to

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<v Speaker 1>take anybody else. But do you remember being in middle

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<v Speaker 1>school and how difficult that was? Like the time that

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<v Speaker 1>time of your life at all? Yeah, So because of

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<v Speaker 1>Kev's son, Joe is going through that right now. He

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<v Speaker 1>lets his kids stay up till three o'clock in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning playing video games.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait what really?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I do.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's on spring break right now, he's got weeks off.

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<v Speaker 2>He works very hard. Yeah, so he can stay up

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<v Speaker 2>and do his thing till three. But the moment you

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<v Speaker 2>tell him shut down, the laptop, turn off the game.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not time to talk to these people anymore. All

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, he's tried to get an attitude and

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<v Speaker 2>he's starting to pop off any of those people, Joe

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<v Speaker 2>and Jed.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe say, hey, man, we were on a three game

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<v Speaker 3>win streak. What the hell?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not having any Joe?

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<v Speaker 3>Would you recommend that Kevin take it to a physical level?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that at all helped you?

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<v Speaker 3>That's a great question. And it absolutely beat your son.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good idea. All right, we got you turned out,

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<v Speaker 1>it all worn out, hit him, and you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any bad memories of that time, do you?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, not at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I probably deserved it.

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<v Speaker 5>I would give anything to see video of.

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<v Speaker 1>Called me a fat ass too. That was one time

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<v Speaker 1>I called me a fat ass last time. What's going on, Colleen?

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing?

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<v Speaker 8>Hey?

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<v Speaker 9>Good morning?

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning?

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<v Speaker 7>Hi Hi.

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<v Speaker 9>I thought a few things. One I struggled personally as

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<v Speaker 9>an adult, and one of my two children do just

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<v Speaker 9>like transition phases. One I can go like, hey, we're

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<v Speaker 9>shutting the TV off, No big deal. The other one

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<v Speaker 9>needs you know, like, hey, this is the last twenty minutes. Hey,

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<v Speaker 9>and ten minutes, Hey, in five minutes, they need like

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<v Speaker 9>a kind of like a transitional type reminder. And then

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<v Speaker 9>just as a punishment as a child, when I or

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<v Speaker 9>my brothers would maybe act like this, my dad would

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<v Speaker 9>take away our choices to make us realize how many

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<v Speaker 9>choices we had. So, for example, if I started making

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<v Speaker 9>bad decisions, like I knew tomorrow I was supposed to

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<v Speaker 9>spend the day of my dad and he got popcorn

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<v Speaker 9>and we're going to the movies and all these things,

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<v Speaker 9>but I still decided to stay up till three am

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<v Speaker 9>that morning and not send alarm and be all crabby

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<v Speaker 9>and mean. Well, then that whole day, like he decided

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<v Speaker 9>what I wanted to eat? Were my brothers got to pick?

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<v Speaker 9>He decided this? You know this, So throughout the day,

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<v Speaker 9>I'd realized, like, dang, I get to make a lot

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<v Speaker 9>of decisions. I'd better start making, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have the game time around keV? Do you

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<v Speaker 3>have a station lockdown?

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<v Speaker 2>Then no, he's a he's a PC gamer. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>all like it was a little computer.

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<v Speaker 5>So could you just could you set screen time?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I'll share it.

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<v Speaker 3>He's probably really smart. He'll probably learn how to hack

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<v Speaker 3>into he'll set a screen timeer on your phone.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, Ashley?

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, good morning, how are you guys?

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning? Okay, what's going on? So?

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<v Speaker 8>I am a child and family therapist. So one of

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<v Speaker 8>the questions that I had, and it sounds like you

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<v Speaker 8>guys had already answered, it, was was he talking to

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<v Speaker 8>friends while he was on his devices when you told

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<v Speaker 8>him to turn it off?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I don't know for sure, let's just say yes,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just say yeah, he was okay.

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<v Speaker 8>So at thirteen, developmentally kids really could care less about

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<v Speaker 8>family members and wanting to be a part of like

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<v Speaker 8>their family group. They are way more interested in worrying

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<v Speaker 8>about their friends and fitting in. And if I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>you guys have to think back when you were that

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<v Speaker 8>age and how much you were. It's always the what's.

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<v Speaker 7>The hottest trend? What can I wear? What can how

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<v Speaker 7>can I fit in with my peers? And in a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of ways, you are getting in the way of that,

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<v Speaker 7>Like you are you telling him to turn off the device.

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<v Speaker 7>You are now a barrier of.

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<v Speaker 8>Him continuing to fit in with his friends and communicate

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<v Speaker 8>with them in the ways that he wants to. So

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<v Speaker 8>obviously touchy feely therapist over here. I'm also a mom,

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<v Speaker 8>so I get it.

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<v Speaker 6>But what I.

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<v Speaker 8>Would say is I don't necessarily disagree with the last

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<v Speaker 8>color with transitions times either giving like warnings of hey man,

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<v Speaker 8>ten more minutes and then we're going to turn off

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<v Speaker 8>the devices to do whatever comes next. The other thing

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<v Speaker 8>that you could do is you could talk to him

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<v Speaker 8>of what's going to be the best way for you

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<v Speaker 8>and I to be able to communicate. When I say

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<v Speaker 8>enough is enough? You understand and you comply, like what

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<v Speaker 8>does he feel like he might need from you? And

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<v Speaker 8>I understand at the end of the day, you're the parent.

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<v Speaker 8>What you say goes. But to give him that mutual

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<v Speaker 8>respect of Okay, I see you and what you're trying

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<v Speaker 8>to do and where you are in your phase of life.

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<v Speaker 8>How can we work together in order for us to

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<v Speaker 8>be able to make it a smoother transition for.

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<v Speaker 1>Both of us? All right, wish wish.

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<v Speaker 8>Our name doctor, not a doctor, but my name's Ashley.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, therapist, Ashley. Let me ask you this. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying is right or wrong? You know, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>giving you a like a I was brought up, so

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<v Speaker 2>when I was brought up, it was I don't give

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<v Speaker 2>a damn who you talking to. I don't give a

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<v Speaker 2>damn what you doing. When you see me call you,

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<v Speaker 2>when you hear my voice or you see my car

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<v Speaker 2>pull up. I don't stop talking to your little friends

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<v Speaker 2>and come when I tell you to come. And that

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<v Speaker 2>worked for me. When you think about that, I think

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<v Speaker 2>you should do the Drewill anytime my mom or my

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<v Speaker 2>grandma called my name I was on the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that, actually that's wonderful therapy, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's probably great. But I also think that there's

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<v Speaker 1>levels that maybe maybe he needs to get a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of uh not. You know, I'm never gonna hit

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe the exercise maybe the thing, because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if Josiah is an exercise kind of guy, but

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<v Speaker 1>the dad who says I take him out into the

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<v Speaker 1>garage and I say, we're going to get some energy

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<v Speaker 1>out of you. You know what I mean? Like that

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<v Speaker 1>that might be the thing he needs.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna start with the drew Hills. I'm gonna impletimate that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, Yeah, or am I just sit on

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<v Speaker 1>him like you do? I told joe I said, just

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<v Speaker 1>a second ago, my son Joey said, get off the

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<v Speaker 1>air with me right now, or I will wrestle your