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Speaker 1: Is Tony Pike Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: From Cincinnati. This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Hello, welcome in. How we're number two of Cincy

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Speaker 3: three sixty here on ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Austin Elmore.

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Speaker 3: No Tony with us today, Big Fellow back on Monday.

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Speaker 3: But the show goes on, and as we normally do

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Speaker 3: at this time every Friday, we talk to our guy,

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Speaker 3: Charlie Goldsmith from Charlie's Chalkboard The gold Standard on Fox nineteen,

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Speaker 3: the Power Stacks Podcast. He's everywhere these days, including in

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Speaker 3: Arizona covering the Reds in spring training. Hi, Charlie, how

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Speaker 3: are you.

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Speaker 4: Austin? I'm doing great. How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm wonderful. I'm curious everybody keeps talking about the high

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Speaker 3: sky in Arizona. Can you describe that?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 3: What does it mean to have a high sky out

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Speaker 3: there in Arizona?

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Speaker 4: You know what? That's one thing I still really don't

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Speaker 4: know the answer to. And you see it on both sides.

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Speaker 4: You see good, good fly ball catchers and dad flyball

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Speaker 4: catchers struggle with it. But I guess it's how few

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Speaker 4: clouds there are or something like that makes it seem

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Speaker 4: extra blue and extra extra high. But I guess this

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Speaker 4: is why I didn't make it into the big league.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's the first question of maybe many that I'm

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Speaker 3: going to ask you that I don't know if you

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Speaker 3: know the answer to, and the main topic being Hunter

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Speaker 3: Green and the elbow stiffness that he dealt with towards

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Speaker 3: the end of last year that is now cropped up again.

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Speaker 3: My first question would be when did the Reds know

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Speaker 3: that Hunter was experiencing elbow stiffness? Was it last year,

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Speaker 3: in the middle of it, or was it going into

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Speaker 3: spring training this year?

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Speaker 4: Yes, last September, the Reds and Hunter were We're talking

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Speaker 4: about this and it was something that I even had

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Speaker 4: heard rumblings of at the time but wasn't in position

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Speaker 4: to report. But that was around kind of a controversy

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Speaker 4: at the time, which was why weren't the red moving

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Speaker 4: Hunter's start day up a day to get him an

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Speaker 4: extra start your season? We know now it was because.

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Speaker 3: Of this stiffness.

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Speaker 4: Now that's something I understand. They got more clarity about

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Speaker 4: in October, which led to Hunt for getting an injection.

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Speaker 4: The decision was made and I'm using the passive voice

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Speaker 4: for a reason to go with an injection over something

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Speaker 4: that would just completely eliminate it and put it behind you.

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Speaker 4: With Hunter obviously aiming for being full goat to start

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Speaker 4: a spring training, which he thought he was going to be.

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Speaker 4: But then obviously the sort of I did not dissipate,

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Speaker 4: and here we are now waiting more information. But it's concerning.

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Speaker 4: I mean not long term the ugls clean, but right

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Speaker 4: now for the start of the season, it's concerning.

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Speaker 3: So was there imaging done after last year that revealed

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Speaker 3: that the UCL was fine and that there were bone

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Speaker 3: spurs and that led to the decision to get the injection?

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Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying.

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Speaker 4: That's that's how I understand it. Obviously Hunter knew about

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Speaker 4: the bone spurs before the sort. It's returned in spring.

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Speaker 4: That's how I understand the timeline.

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Speaker 3: What was the injection, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Usually PRP or I would assume it wasn't a quartzone shot.

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Speaker 4: That wouldn't make sense something like that.

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Speaker 3: But I don't have the answer to that, okay, And

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Speaker 3: so that kind of that makes the most sense to

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Speaker 3: me because I was the most curious about the timeline

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Speaker 3: and when the Reds knew and when they didn't and

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Speaker 3: what the decision was made to then, as you said,

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Speaker 3: kind of let it rest, give it the shot and

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Speaker 3: be ready for spring training. But it came back, and

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Speaker 3: so now I guess the question is could they take

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Speaker 3: that route again? Is that what they're trying to figure out,

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Speaker 3: either to take that same route or to have some

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Speaker 3: sort of procedure that's going to take him out for

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Speaker 3: an extended amount of time.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, the real answer is the truth is

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Speaker 4: here that they just don't know. And the takeaway from

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Speaker 4: the last week from the Red side from Greenside, it's

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Speaker 4: we just need more information because obviously a route that

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Speaker 4: would have been ideal wasn't taken in October because the

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Speaker 4: soreness returned, you know, they weren't able to really put

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Speaker 4: of the day, they just needed more information and that's

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Speaker 4: what Hunter's getting now. And again, the fact that Elatrosha

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Speaker 4: they need an expert, not that they're don't have experts,

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Speaker 4: but but Ala Trasha is in the front of elbow

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Speaker 4: research in the world, so it's something they really need

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Speaker 4: an an expert expert expert opinion on because Plan A

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Speaker 3: I've talked to two different people now that have told

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Speaker 3: me that the shelf life for a Tommy John surgery

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Speaker 3: is in the six to seven year range. Now, you

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Speaker 3: just said that the UCL is intact, and that's not

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Speaker 3: something that I guess the reds are all that workorried about.

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Speaker 3: But Hunter Green did have Tommy John surgery in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 3: which would put us on the timeline of maybe this

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Speaker 3: being an issue. Is that a concern at all within

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Speaker 3: the organization Tommy John or the UCL, or the impact

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Speaker 3: that what is currently happening could then impact the UCL.

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Speaker 4: I don't think so. And it probably depends on your

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Speaker 4: Tommy John surgery, because I know everyone's kind of different

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Speaker 4: based on how the ligaments, whatever I bet I can

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Speaker 4: come up with if you gave me him minute. A

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Speaker 4: lot of examples of guys who had Tommy John and

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Speaker 4: never worried about it. Again, that could be the case

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Speaker 4: for Hunter Again, he felt very confident about his elbow

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Speaker 4: and he had more information than he shared with it publicly. Sure,

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Speaker 4: so that's not something that is on the forefront of.

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Speaker 3: My radar, right now, okay, so now we look into

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Speaker 3: the trickle down effect on the rest of the organization.

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Speaker 3: What to you does this mean for Chase Burns, for

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Speaker 3: Rhet Louder, and even for Brandon Williamson.

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Speaker 4: Start here, like the Reds almost had a problem, that

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Speaker 4: a great problem, the perfect problem to have, like Rhet

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Speaker 4: Louder is the talk of camp. It was become so

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Speaker 4: entering camp. What I said, probably on the show, I

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Speaker 4: said it wherever it was. There's nothing wrong with having

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Speaker 4: that competitive stamina, build up his arm, and then join

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Speaker 4: the big league rotation when they need him.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: That was not my opinion on Reht anymore. He was

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Speaker 4: too good to do that with. So they would have

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Speaker 4: had to have done something like the Brewers have done

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Speaker 4: this where it's kind of not a six man rotation

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Speaker 4: because they don't want that, and not a long reliever

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Speaker 4: out some advanced picking plan to make sure that Rhet

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Speaker 4: Louder was in the big league, right, because you need

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Speaker 4: the rosters, just start or there is one more concern,

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Speaker 4: which is that they will have to manage the innings

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Speaker 4: and act Yard as well. So your starting pitching depth

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Speaker 4: isn't full starting pitching depth because you're not going to

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Speaker 4: get to get two hundred innings out of them. But

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Speaker 4: now Louder just joins the rotation and you got or

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Speaker 4: you know, Williamson's still competing and he's been a nice

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Speaker 4: surprising camp. But there's the top five right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so the trade for I believe Kyle Nicholas

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Speaker 3: the other day that sends Tyler Callahan to Pittsburgh, what

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Speaker 3: exactly does that trade mean? And could those two things

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Speaker 3: the bullpen maybe a little bit more while there's an

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Speaker 3: innings limit for those guys, What exactly does that trade mean?

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Speaker 3: In your eyes?

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Speaker 4: It's a completely separate conversation. And you know, I don't

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Speaker 4: much is what I'm trying to say. Of like the

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Speaker 4: May con of Philips is nice and he'll probably make

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Speaker 4: the team, but it's not like he's just been September

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Speaker 4: con of Phillips right away. I don't want to make

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Speaker 4: did my spring training player pull to day who's standing out?

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Speaker 4: And if you would have asked me a month ago,

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Speaker 4: I would have expected one of those rookies would be

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Speaker 4: this guy's about to be a seventh inning guy. That

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Speaker 4: just hasn't happened for any of them. So they want

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Speaker 4: to kind of add another dart because that's what what

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Speaker 4: relief prospects are, you know. Dart throws some sticks don't,

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Speaker 4: Some hit on their lead stuff, some can't throw strikes.

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Speaker 4: Nicholas he's twenty seven, he's a bit older, but he's

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Speaker 4: in the zack same bucket as May, Maxwell, et cetera.

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Speaker 4: Really great stuff, like great stuff. Can you throw a strike?

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Speaker 4: Who knows? Let's see, let's watch, let's all learn together.

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Speaker 4: He's a guy who kind of gives them another long

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Speaker 4: term option kind of looks a little bit to me

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Speaker 4: like Lucas Sims. When Lucas first got here, not obviously

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Speaker 4: if he can find the take consistency the Lucasis.

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Speaker 3: How do you balance placing players in these buckets while

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Speaker 3: understanding that it is spring training baseball, Like, yeah, Louder

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Speaker 3: And then a guy like you know, Graham ash Craft

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Speaker 3: and you know Santiine and Pegan way too early to tell,

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Speaker 3: you balance putting them in those buckets and understanding, Okay,

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Speaker 3: it's also spring training baseball, and I don't want to

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Speaker 3: weigh it down too much. How do you balance that?

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Speaker 4: It's especially hard with relievers and just full transparency, Like

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Speaker 4: I think personally, I'm the worst. The worst group for me,

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Speaker 4: while Santiano Pagan had bad days like but also I've

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Speaker 4: I've read into both good and bad guys who were

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Speaker 4: I've been completely wrong and completely missed on the path.

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Speaker 4: So it's you know, the context of their careers, whether

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Speaker 4: to fix ano positively and negatively, like you said, like Rhett,

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Speaker 4: just the pure stuff right, Like seeing that in the

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Speaker 4: fact that that exists, like that leads to the hype

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Speaker 4: around Red Louder, where like there are other guys who

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Speaker 4: you wouldn't read into positively. It's all they're all their

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Speaker 4: own thing. And I don't know if I have it right. Heck,

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Speaker 4: you know every day fult who probably gets happen right

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Speaker 4: to have to be wrong. Yeah, I will say this,

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm not concerned, I am noticing, or let me

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Speaker 4: say it like this way. A week from now, if

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Speaker 4: these bullpensure and continue, I won't be as excited about

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Speaker 3: Okay, that kind of answered my next question because my

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Speaker 3: next question is, and I've I've never been shy about this.

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Speaker 3: I'm not buying what Graham Ashcraft is selling. Should like,

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Speaker 3: should I be concerned or am I crazy for thinking

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Speaker 3: like there's there's a lot for Graham Ashcraft to prove.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent. I agree with that specifically, like and

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Speaker 3: That's uh. I agree one hundred percent Charlie, really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy Scottsdale. It's the best grapefruit or the best Cactus

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Speaker 3: All right, Thanks Charlie, take it easy er. That is

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Speaker 3: start bench cut. He often does start bench cuts that

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Speaker 3: I don't play that involve picking sponsors against each other,

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Speaker 3: which is great, and then or our friends against each

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Speaker 3: other and then Doug Gottlieb. But if he makes more

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Speaker 3: Doug Gottlieb Anti Gottlieb talkbacks, I'm in favor of.

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Speaker 7: There you go. In other news, take that, Mike.

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Speaker 8: Now on to sunny Hot Zona, where a Reese round

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Speaker 8: tripper a Heinz Homer walks off the World Champs with

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Speaker 8: the great egg Man and attendance.

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Speaker 7: Very impressive.

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Speaker 8: And speaking of impressive, how about the opt man calling

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Speaker 8: Santiago Espinal and Nicky longballs to go six for eight.

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Speaker 7: And destroy Red's pitching.

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Speaker 8: Yep, those washed up Traders went three for four with

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Speaker 8: three home runs. And seven RBIs combined. That's on Pace

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Speaker 8: four six for eight all done.

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Speaker 3: Yep, the band called his shot yesterday. It's a poetic

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Speaker 3: justice to this ball club. I know him too well.

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Speaker 6: Uh so, guys, I've got a confession to make. I

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Speaker 6: was the one that was kind of running around with

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Speaker 6: Multi Personality Mike's wife.

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Speaker 5: And.

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Speaker 6: Unfortunately I didn't realize that he doesn't actually have a wife,

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Speaker 6: that the quote wife is one of his personalities. I

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Speaker 6: found out the hard way. Guys, careful out.

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Speaker 3: There, Thank you. Multi Personality Mike is my favorite talkbacker

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Speaker 3: and he's been known to be sabotaged by Drew Wester Heidi.

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Speaker 7: Oh gosh, I'm doing my best here, folks.

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Speaker 10: It's the Lord Happier Friday Friday, Austin. You guys were

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Speaker 10: talking about backup quarterbacks. Oh, that the Bengals should look

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Speaker 10: into one of the quarterbacks. You forgot to mention, and

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Speaker 10: it was mentioned on them Egger show is Andy Dalton.

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Speaker 3: That's not true. We talked would come back here.

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Speaker 10: He knows the offense, he knows the players. What do

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Speaker 10: you guys think?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we did five good minutes on Andy Dalton the

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Speaker 3: other week when it came out that he was, the

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Speaker 3: teams were calling the Panthers about him. I think Andy

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Speaker 3: Dalton would make a lot of sense here. I think

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Speaker 3: Andy Dalton makes the most sense for the Las Vegas Raiders, who,

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Speaker 3: by the way, report came out today that the Raiders

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Speaker 3: don't want to play Fernando Mendoza right away, which I

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Speaker 3: think is interesting. And I think Andy Dalton makes a

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Speaker 3: lot of sense for both the Bengals and the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: Happy Friday, Tony and Austin. Wow, what a beautiful, beautiful day.

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Speaker 11: I have a question, and you've got to answer this honestly,

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Speaker 11: Christmas for Tony again.

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Speaker 12: Say Miami plays tonight, if they win, they go undefeated.

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Speaker 7: Scenario if you see would play Miami.

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Speaker 3: In dayton I hate to say this, but I.

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Speaker 7: Think I'm rooting for Miami. Oh my gosh, and I'm a.

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Speaker 3: Bear Cat alumni.

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Speaker 7: What would you do?

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Speaker 3: Well, I can tell you Tony would never know, under

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Speaker 3: any circumstances, entertain the thought of rooting against UC basketball.

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Speaker 3: I personally have a problem with your outlook. I think

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Speaker 3: you should root for your alma mater in a game

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Speaker 3: like that. Correct one percent?

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Speaker 13: Hey often marker from the groove, Marcus, is it just

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Speaker 13: me or has there been a lot of home runs

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Speaker 13: hit so far into spring training. I'm not getting over excited.

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Speaker 13: I know it's only spring training and maybe the weather

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Speaker 13: down there is different, but it just seems to me

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Speaker 13: that the team that we saw last year, with the

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Speaker 13: lack of power and home runs, is completely changed.

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Speaker 7: So far early.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. I am going to put a little

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Speaker 3: bit on it of it on the weather, and I

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Speaker 3: am going to put a little bit of it on

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Speaker 3: the fact that the breaking pitches don't break as much

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Speaker 3: in that air out there. But that being said, you

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Speaker 3: still got to put a good swing on a baseball

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Speaker 3: hit out of the ballpark, and the Reds have done

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Speaker 3: a good job at day.

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Speaker 14: I will say I worked the Reds game yesterday. That

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Speaker 14: wind was blowing like eighteen mile an hour dead out

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Speaker 14: to right. So if you put one up, I said

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Speaker 14: it earlier, Santiago Estpin'll hit two home runs yesterday. True,

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Speaker 14: Like that doesn't happen now were there, Like Ellie's doesn't

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Speaker 14: matter what day it was, right, that thing's gone, Nathaniel Low's,

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Speaker 14: I don't care what, like what ballpark was whether, it

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Speaker 14: doesn't matter that ball was going over the fence. So again,

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Speaker 14: good process leading to good results.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Happy Friday atp.

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Speaker 15: Fifteen in Haughty, I gotta start bench cut there in

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Speaker 15: the NFL free edge of Combination, which you sign if

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Speaker 15: you were Duke Tobin and Katie Blackburn at Dapha Oway

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Speaker 15: and Devin Lloyd. I have Nick Cross and the Kobe

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Speaker 15: Dean or Brian Cook and John Franklin Myers.

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Speaker 3: Damn, that's a good one because I am a John

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Speaker 3: Franklin Myers believer, and he's gonna cost them a lot

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Speaker 3: of money if he wants to be a Bengal. I'm

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Speaker 3: going to start Brian Cook and John Franklin Myers. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna bench a Dafeoway and Devin Lloyd, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: cut Nick Cross and Jacoby Dean.

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Speaker 7: Those are your expertise, not mine.

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Speaker 2: Hello, this is former President Ronald Reagan and Wale. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna keep things light here on a gorgeous Friday. Is

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Speaker 2: it just me? Or is the Reds roster filled with

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Speaker 2: players who sound more like country music singers than ballplayers.

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Speaker 7: I mean you've got Blake Dunn.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, keep Brian Ayesrhese Hines, Tyler Stevenson and Spencer Steer

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Speaker 2: just to name a few.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a good way of putting it.

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Speaker 3: So I think they're gonna be at the saloon stage

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Speaker 3: a country concert. We'll be there.

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Speaker 14: The golf podcast I listen to No Laying Up local guys.

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Speaker 14: They play a game on their pod called a country Star,

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Speaker 14: PGA tour Player or Baseball reliever that is brilliant and

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Speaker 14: it is remarkable how hard that game can be.

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Speaker 3: Has Graham Ashcraft been featured?

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Speaker 14: He The thing is is that two of the guys

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Speaker 14: on the pot are Reds fans, so they like they

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Speaker 14: know the Reds guys, but it's it is pretty remarkable.

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Speaker 7: They probably get about sixty percent right.

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Speaker 14: And there are a ton of country music singers that

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Speaker 14: and I listened to country music a little bit that

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Speaker 14: I've absolutely never heard of.

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Speaker 7: It is remarkable.

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Speaker 11: Hey, fella's back at the doubled. If you said, what's

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Speaker 11: my expectations of the Reds, Well, I'm thinking maybe somewhere

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Speaker 11: around ninety two ninety three wins and a playoff appearance

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Speaker 11: rather that wildcard or division winner. Not really sure, but

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Speaker 11: that's what I think too.

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Speaker 14: If the Reds win ninety three games and have to

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Speaker 14: play in the wildcard, Sea I'm gonna be frustrated. That

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Speaker 14: would infuriate me.

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Speaker 3: This is Jim from Anderson.

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Speaker 12: If you saw the other Dale moaning Crony complaining about

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Speaker 12: his players having to get up at the traveling Nebraska

564
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Speaker 12: to go to class the next day.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but if.

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Speaker 12: I'm making six to seven figures to play for UCLA

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Speaker 12: men's basketball, I'm probably not going to class either way.

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Speaker 12: Tell Mickey time Zones it's time to relax.

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Speaker 3: I think mighty time zones. You know, I've heard some

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Speaker 3: stuff about Mick Cronin lately. I don't like that guy.

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Speaker 7: He's grumpy. He's a grumpy Gills.

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Speaker 14: And the other thing is, if you want to complain

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Speaker 14: about this stuff, complain to your administration for joining a

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Speaker 14: conference based out of the Midwest.

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Speaker 3: Correct, immundo.

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Speaker 9: Austin is sound good today? You get a help a

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Speaker 9: job by yourself there, Bud. When does I heeart give

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Speaker 9: you your own show? I can hear the title now

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Speaker 9: more game with Austin elmore more game.

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Speaker 4: Show.

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Speaker 9: Great job today, guy, thanks a lot, fine.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you for the kind words. I appreciate. That's

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm going to write that down. More Game.

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Speaker 7: That's pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I think we can.

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Speaker 16: All agree we're a little bit aggravated with Hunter Green

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Speaker 16: and how he treated himself in the offseason. He may

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Speaker 16: or may not have had help with that, but the

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Speaker 16: more and more he speaks and his arrogance comes across,

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Speaker 16: I'm starting to not be much of a fan of

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Speaker 16: him like I used to be. So with that said,

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Speaker 16: I'd like to play a little game call name association.

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Speaker 16: I'll go first, Hunter Green, and I will answer with

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Speaker 16: Homer Bailey, what do you got No?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no. The first thing I

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Speaker 3: think of when I think a Hunter Green is monster.

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Speaker 3: That's what I think. I think he's a beast. I

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Speaker 3: feel better after talking to Charlie and finding out that

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Speaker 3: the Reds knew about this the whole time. And again

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Speaker 3: that's just I wanted to know the timeline of events.

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Speaker 3: I will always disagree with the mindset of get an

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Speaker 3: injection and let it rest, especially with LB. Go in there,

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Speaker 3: clean it up, and if you start a little bit

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Speaker 3: later than normal, that's a lot better than missing two

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Speaker 3: or three or four months. And so I am not

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Speaker 3: an expert, and I will not I am never going

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Speaker 3: to pretend to be one. But if it's me. They're

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Speaker 3: likely like, you just get the damn thing cleaned up

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Speaker 3: and get back to work when you can, instead of

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Speaker 3: waiting on it and waiting on it. And that's what

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Speaker 3: I'm frustrated about.

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Speaker 1: I'd be the only one to think this, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think Hendrickson is going to want all the money

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Speaker 1: that he thinks he's going to get being a free agent.

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Speaker 3: He's going to get a big reality check.

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Speaker 1: And me personally, I'm not saying he's overrated, but I

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Speaker 1: am saying, like all his sacks that he had were

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Speaker 1: pretty much garbage time stuff, and a lot of times

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Speaker 1: he didn't show up until like the fourth quarter was

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Speaker 1: like a minute to go when the Bengals were losing.

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Speaker 1: So maybe you guys can help me explain. Beside that

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Speaker 1: one year he had all the sacks, what has Hendrickson

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Speaker 1: done that makes teams want to pay him that much money.

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Speaker 3: Well, I will say this, it was two years of

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Speaker 3: seventeen and a half sacks, which is elite production. There

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Speaker 3: are underlying pass rush metrics that would suggest he is

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Speaker 3: on the same plane as the Daniel Hunters, the Max Crosby's,

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Speaker 3: the Micah Parsis Parsons specifically when it comes to pass rush.

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Speaker 3: I think what the issue with Hendrickson is is he's

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Speaker 3: a poor run defender. He's not a very good tackler.

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Speaker 3: He is older, he did just suffer an injury. There

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Speaker 3: are times when he completely disappears against tackles that he's

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Speaker 3: not supposed to be getting erased by. I think back

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Speaker 3: to the Eagles game last year when Fred Johnson looked

635
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Speaker 3: like Anthony Munos against him, and then I think of

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Speaker 3: games like the Raiders and like the Steelers where he

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Speaker 3: feasted on backup tackles and got eight and a half

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Speaker 3: of his seventeen and a half sacks in those two

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Speaker 3: games or whatever the number was. So I have always

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Speaker 3: pounded the drum and have said many times on this

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Speaker 3: show that Trey Hendrickson is not the elite of the

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Speaker 3: elite pass rushers. He is nowhere near Miles Garrett. He

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Speaker 3: is not TJ Watt, He is not Micah Parsons and

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Speaker 3: Max Crosby. Now there might be underlying metrics that suggest

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Speaker 3: he's on some of those similar wavelengths, but all of

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Speaker 3: those guys are much more complete players than Trey Hendrickson is,

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Speaker 3: and they're all younger, and so for that reason, I

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Speaker 3: would not pay him top flight money. And this is

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Speaker 3: a stance that I have had from the very beginning

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Speaker 3: with Trey, and I think the Bengals should have traded him.

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Speaker 3: But I think other teams see what I see, and

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Speaker 3: they don't see him at that level, so they don't

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Speaker 3: value him that much. And the Bengals are trying a

654
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Speaker 3: little bit too much to get more of that similar

655
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Speaker 3: type of value. And I agree with you that I

656
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 3: think Trey will get out here, and I think he'll

657
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 3: make plenty of money because Daniel Hunter just did what

658
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson has been asking to do this whole time.

659
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Speaker 3: He just got another one year extension for forty million dollars.

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Speaker 3: The market is forty million plus now, Trey, he might

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Speaker 3: make thirty five, he might make thirty two. He's gonna

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Speaker 3: make more than I think he would have been offered

663
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Speaker 3: here in Cincinnati, unless he goes to a place where

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Speaker 3: he really wants to play, and he maybe gets a

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Speaker 3: two year deal at fifty million dollars with all of

666
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Speaker 3: it fully guaranteed, and you know, he goes somewhere like Tampa,

667
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 3: or he goes somewhere like Tennessee or or somewhere like that.

668
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Speaker 3: Maybe he takes a little bit less money in that situation,

669
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Speaker 3: But if he's just going to sign another one year

670
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Speaker 3: deal and try to prove it and get back out there,

671
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Speaker 3: I could see him making upwards of thirty to thirty

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Speaker 3: five million dollars for a team that's willing to pay that.

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Speaker 14: And you've got to be looking at teams that have good,

674
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Speaker 14: good quarterbacks on rookie contracts. Seems like the Bears seems

675
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Speaker 14: like the Patriots, where they can afford to kind of

676
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Speaker 14: you know, you may see thirty seven million as an

677
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Speaker 14: overpay for Trey Hendrickson, but they can afford to overpay

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Speaker 14: him for a year.

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Speaker 7: Sure, And the Bears have made some moves. They freed

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Speaker 7: up forty four million in.

681
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Speaker 14: Cap over the past couple of days, and it does

682
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Speaker 14: not seem like they are really in the Crosby running.

683
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Speaker 14: So that kind of lends me to believe that maybe

684
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Speaker 14: they are a destination that is going to go after Tranjison.

685
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Speaker 3: And I also think, and I do think the Bears

686
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 3: are going to make a run at Tyler Linderbaum too,

687
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 3: now that their center retired. But the Crosby thing, it

688
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: seems like it's going to happen, and there's a lot

689
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Speaker 3: of smoke around that situation today, including the Dallas Cowboys,

690
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Speaker 3: and the Cowboys have been a name that's been involved

691
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Speaker 3: in Trey Henderson as well. So once the dust settles

692
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Speaker 3: on Max Crosby, which I'm starting to think will happen

693
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 3: sooner rather than later. Once that happens, that might clarify

694
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 3: some things for Trey. I think the two that make

695
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 3: the most sense to me, and I don't know their

696
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 3: cap situation, but I would say Tampa just because that's

697
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Speaker 3: a place he wants to be in Florida. And the

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00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 3: second would be the Tennessee Titans because they have an

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00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 3: ungodly amount of money to spend, they have a defensive

700
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 3: coordinator and Robert Sala. They're in an area that Trey

701
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 3: and his family like. I just feel like that makes

702
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 3: a lot of sense.

703
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 17: Titanic struggle, not I Miami against the Ohio Bobcats. I

704
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 17: know Pappy Patty went to Miami. She wants the perfect season.

705
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 17: I like both schools. Prey, I love ou Athens. Yeah,

706
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 17: Tom brennanman went there. Ken Brewce Walsh, guitar player for Eagles.

707
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 7: Went there.

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Speaker 14: Okay, all right, some stats going into the big matchup

709
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Speaker 14: of the bricks tonight, Miami is not won in Athens in.

710
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Speaker 7: Over fifteen years.

711
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty cool.

712
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 14: Twenty eleven since two thousand, Miami is just three and

713
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 14: twenty three at Ohio. So that is what's on the

714
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 14: line tonight for the Miami RedHawks. And I think if

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Speaker 14: they win tonight and go undefeated in the regular season,

716
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Speaker 14: I do not think you'll have to worry about them

717
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Speaker 14: not winning the MAC Championship. I think if they complete

718
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 14: an undefeated regular season, they will be in the tournament,

719
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Speaker 14: in the tournament, not in Dayton, in the tournament, even

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Speaker 14: if they don't win the maxas you're.

721
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Speaker 3: Telling me, Dayton doesn't count.

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Speaker 14: Is in the tournament? Is that what you're trying to

723
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 14: tell me, Well, it depends on who you ask. I

724
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 14: wouldn't I think that counts. So that's you know, and

725
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 14: again that's your opinion. We all have our opinions here.

726
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Speaker 14: But but I do like because the big buzz that's

727
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Speaker 14: been going around here is if you see wins against

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00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 14: TCU tomorrow and kind of gets into that you know,

729
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 14: first four, could we see the you know, it was

730
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 14: brought up in a talk back earlier. But could we

731
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Speaker 14: see the Miami versus UC game in Dayton, which would

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Speaker 14: be very fun.

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Speaker 7: I would be in attendance for that.

734
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Heyauti, it's bake.

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Speaker 18: My prediction is ninety and seventy two, second place in

736
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Speaker 18: the division and they'll make the playoffs again. One thing

737
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Speaker 18: I saw from the game yesterday, Julian Aggie are looks

738
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Speaker 18: like he is healthy and healed.

739
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Speaker 7: He gave up a run, but his stuff was good.

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Speaker 3: Who okay, all right? Thank you bank, Yeah go Audie

741
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 3: good solo show from the NKY. What do you know? Man?

742
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 5: I want to piggyback off that first talkbacker. No one

743
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 5: likes the Lord's voice. It's awful and the takes are awful.

744
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 5: Put him on the band list? No, no, you go?

745
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 7: You see.

746
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 3: Who day. You gotta be pretty egregious to get on

747
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 3: the band list. And he tries like hell, And sometimes

748
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 3: I don't play his stuff and sometimes I do. There's

749
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 3: nothing wrong with him. Here we go, last one Austin.

750
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Speaker 16: That country festival they're advertising over in Newport or Covington

751
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 16: tomorrow has the Steel Drivers.

752
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 3: Yes at it, I believe, which is Stapleton's first band. YEP,

753
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 3: I was talking about we when we announced that we're

754
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 3: going to Smoke Justice for opening day, and Moe was

755
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 3: talking about the music festival that they got this weekend

756
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 3: at Smoke Justice in that area and the steel Drivers

757
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 3: being there, fired up because you know, I love the

758
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 3: steel Drivers. Unfortunately I can't make it, but good seats

759
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 3: still available. I think everyone should go. All right, that's it,

760
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: all right, we'll take a break. We'll do one segment

761
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Speaker 3: when we come back before we head over to Tommy

762
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Speaker 3: g At the start of our number three. This is

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Speaker 3: since E three sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty. I don't

764
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Speaker 3: know how, but yesterday we never got to our Reds

765
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: opening day countdown. Well, yesterday was three weeks. That would

766
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 3: be twenty one days until opening day, and we normally

767
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 3: go through some of the great Reds to wear the

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Speaker 3: number twenty one, and so we're gonna give you a

769
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Speaker 3: few of those and then we'll get to today's number.

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously Hunter Green, Michael Lorenzen, the Todd Father,

771
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 3: Todd Frasier to wear number twenty one. Scott had a Berg,

772
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Speaker 3: Sean Casey, the Mayor, Dion Sanders. I mean, this is

773
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Speaker 3: a Paul O'Neil I mean, this is a star studded

774
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 3: Paul Householder, Eddie Milner. I mean, these are some all

775
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 3: time great Reds that have won warn the number twenty one.

776
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 3: And I know Drew one of your favorites, Peanuts Lowry. Oh, yes,

777
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 3: back in nineteen forty, in nineteen fifty one, back forget

778
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: forty four, we had Dick Sipek and Jojo White. What

779
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 3: about Max Marshall, Jim Gleeson, Bill Hallahan, Si Johnson, Paul Daringer,

780
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 3: and of course back in nineteen thirty two Cliff Heathcote.

781
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 3: Those guys all wore number twenty one. And then it

782
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 3: gets pretty dog one good with number twenty as well.

783
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 3: When it comes to the Reds, we're talking guys like

784
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 3: Chris Steins, Danny Jackson, Eddie Milner as well, Sazar Geronimo,

785
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 3: part of the Big Red Machine, Frank Robinson, one of

786
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 3: the best players that's ever played baseball. Ted Klezuski actually

787
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 3: wore the number twenty early on in the late forties,

788
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: Dane Clay Gene Shott. Now, if this list is correct,

789
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 3: no Red has worn the number twenty since nineteen ninety seven,

790
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: And I'm racking my brain. I guess that's true because

791
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 3: of Frank Robinson, right, I would think so, Frank Robinson

792
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 3: or or Seesar Geronimo. And either way, not a number

793
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 3: that is worn anymore by a Red but I guess

794
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm just now thinking about it,

795
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 3: but either way, that's the number as we are now

796
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 3: twenty one days away from opening day. If you look

797
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 3: at the list that we're gonna miss over the weekend

798
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 3: for the number nineteen, obviously Joey Vado for a long time,

799
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 3: Chris Donorfia. Do you remember Chris Donorfia.

800
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 7: I can't say that I do.

801
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 3: He used to hit homers and would like sprint around

802
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 3: the bases. Love that, but he didn't hit a lot

803
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 3: of homers. Jeff co nine wore it actually the same

804
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 3: year Joey Vado wore it. Bill durand Wayne Crin Chicky.

805
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 3: That's a name that gets floated around a lot, the

806
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 3: great Tommy Helms or number nineteen, Bobby Durnball, Larry Benton

807
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 3: and others. And then of course number eighteen. That's another

808
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 3: retired number that hasn't been worn sinceneteen ninety seven, which

809
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 3: of course for Ted Klezuski, who wore it so many

810
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 3: years in the forties and fifties. Gordy Coleman wore it

811
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 3: for a while as well, and of course Peaches Davis

812
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 3: back in nineteen thirty seven. Old Peaches Epa Rixey another

813
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 3: famous Red for a long time. And then we'll get

814
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 3: back into number seventeen later on in the likes of

815
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 3: Double Joe Dwyer and Dazzy Vance and Ernie Lombardi and others.

816
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 3: But twenty days away from Red's opening day when they

817
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 3: take on the Boston Red Sox in at Great American Ballpark,

818
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 3: really quick an update on the World Baseball Classic. Mexico

819
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 3: leads Great Britain one to nothing going to the bottom

820
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 3: of the third inning in Houston. There was a final

821
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 3: from earlier today. Cuba did beat Panama three to one

822
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 3: in that game and currently in the bottom of the

823
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: fifth Venezuela holding a six to one lead over the

824
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 3: Netherlands in pool play action. And as I said earlier,

825
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 3: Aohaneo Suarez not in the starting lineup for Venezuela, but

826
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 3: they are doing pretty dog on good Ronald Acunya Junior,

827
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 3: which I can't believe of all the guys that have

828
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 3: had insurance issues and contract guarantee problems. I can't believe

829
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 3: Ronald Acuna Junior is playing in the World Baseball Classic,

830
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 3: considering the amount of injuries that he has had over

831
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: the last couple of years. But he has a double

832
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 3: in this game and one hit so far in a

833
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,479
Speaker 3: walk in a leadoff spot for Venezuela. More games coming

834
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 3: up tonight. All right, there's some NFL news that we're

835
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: going to get to in our number three. There are

836
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 3: a lot of cap casualties that are starting to hit

837
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 3: the wire today. I expect the Bengals to be a

838
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,479
Speaker 3: team that has a couple of those guys. I would

839
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: expect at least two cap casualties that the Bengals will

840
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 3: use to free up a little bit of money going

841
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 3: into free agency. I expect that to be Orrin Burks,

842
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: and I expect that to be Cody Ford. But none

843
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 3: of that is official yet. There's been some pretty good

844
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 3: players let go today across the NFL. We will talk

845
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 3: about that when we get to it, and more of

846
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 3: the NFL stuff in our number three. We'll also talk

847
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 3: to Tommy g here in about five minutes and Chad

848
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 3: Brindle at two forty five for quick hits as Chad

849
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Speaker 3: is in form this afternoon. That's all coming up next.

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Speaker 3: This is sin C three p. Sixty on the Home

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Speaker 3: of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty