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Speaker 2: Welcome into the Monday Midday Quarterback. How about the bear Cats?

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Speaker 3: Baby, let's get it started. Here on a Monday, A

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Speaker 3: lot's a lot to discuss.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 3: We're frustrated, we're mad, we're angry, but the show goes on.

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Speaker 3: We're not stopping.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: We turn the heat up even more. We've got a

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Speaker 3: Bengals loss to break down. I think the term demoralizing

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Speaker 3: is pretty much the easiest way to look at what

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Speaker 3: happened yesterday, because, for the first time I think ever

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Speaker 3: watching a Bengals game that I can remember, I truly

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Speaker 3: didn't feel like they had a chance to win by

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Speaker 3: the time the ball was kicked off to the time

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Speaker 3: the game ended. Just never felt like they were a

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Speaker 3: threat to win the game yesterday. And I think that

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Speaker 3: is a failure on so many levels based on how

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Speaker 3: the roster has been built, how they've been coached, and

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Speaker 3: how they've been executing. We're gonna talk a lot about

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Speaker 3: Duke Tobin, We're gonna talk a lot about Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 3: At some point players got to execute as well. Now,

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Speaker 3: who is putting those players in the opportunities to execute?

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Speaker 3: Who is deciding which players have the best chance to execute?

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Speaker 2: Fair?

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Speaker 3: That is coaching, and I one hundred percent get it.

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Speaker 3: But we have a lot to sift through today. We

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Speaker 3: can play the wheel of blame game. I asked last night,

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Speaker 3: got a lot of responses, and I feel like every

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Speaker 3: response is about the same between Zach and Duke Tobin.

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Speaker 3: You can individually talk about position groups like the O

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Speaker 3: line and the play of the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: But one of the.

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Speaker 3: Things I'm gonna drive home today, Austin, and I want

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Speaker 3: to get your thought on it as well. I just

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Speaker 3: did another series of video breakdowns on x Tony Underscore

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Speaker 3: Pike fifteen. You can go watch him, and in a

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Speaker 3: lot of those breakdowns, there are plays to be made,

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Speaker 3: and Jake Browning just isn't making them. Whether it's a

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Speaker 3: poor throw or a poor read, he's not making the throws.

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Speaker 3: So you could say, well, then it's on the job

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Speaker 3: of the quarterback. But Austin, who has been the biggest

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Speaker 4: Zach Taylor, the head Zach Taylor football team, you're putting

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Speaker 4: him out there. You're saying that, Hey, I'm putting my

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Speaker 4: stake in this guy, and he's letting you down. And

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Speaker 4: he did so after the game again and talking more

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Speaker 4: about Yeah, we've got trust, We've got faith.

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Speaker 2: Ins in Jake Browning.

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Speaker 4: That to me is a miss, and not to me

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Speaker 4: is why the seat for Zach Taylor right now is

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Speaker 4: scorching hot?

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Speaker 2: Scorching hot for us or hit the fan base, hit.

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Speaker 4: The breaking news sounder. You just said, what scorching hot

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Speaker 4: for us? So that would mean me and me, you

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Speaker 5: You.

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Speaker 4: I feel like Zach Taylor should no longer be the

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Speaker 4: head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals. Oh my goodness, Now

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Speaker 4: I say that knowing that it will be at least

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Speaker 4: at least seven to ten days before we we get

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Speaker 4: to that point. I think if I were circling a

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Speaker 4: because if the current trend continues, which is at the

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Speaker 4: Bengals are fourteen and a half point underdogs at Green Bay,

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Speaker 4: and then they have a standalone Thursday night game at home,

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Speaker 4: and the Bengals continue to be embarrassed the way that

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Speaker 4: they have been embarrassed, I don't know how you can

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Speaker 2: So this is this is flooring. I thinkbelievable.

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Speaker 4: More than anything that the straw that's that broke the

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Speaker 4: the past, and just two weeks ago disagreed about whether

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Speaker 4: I'm not afraid to say, hand up, I was wrong

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Speaker 4: on that. I was I thought it wouldn't matter because

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Speaker 4: the offensive line was playing so poorly and blah blah blah. Well,

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Speaker 4: and as you have outlined both on this show and

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Speaker 4: I can look at that and say, yeah, Zach Taylor

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Speaker 4: had a quarterback to operate the offense more efficiently, maybe

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Speaker 4: some of these games are different. But I also look

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Speaker 4: the worst quarterback performances I have ever seen by a professional,

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Speaker 4: and then to see him walking off the field, slamming

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Speaker 4: crashing out on the sidelines and having what the kids

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Speaker 4: call these days a mente B, which is a mental breakdown.

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Speaker 4: I thought to myself, Zach Taylor can't put him back

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Speaker 4: out there, and he did, and it kept getting war.

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Speaker 4: My fear from yesterday though, is Hey, they played good

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Speaker 4: Gained some confidence there on the fourth Austin, how many

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Speaker 4: least three? I would think you think in the they

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Speaker 4: fourth quarter, when they led twenty eight to three after three,

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Speaker 2: Probably not.

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Speaker 3: Do you think they were just going to make sure

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Speaker 4: The long touchdown by Jamar Chase sixty four yarder a

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Speaker 3: To put it into perspective on on I guess how

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Speaker 3: six passes for one hundred and ten yards and two touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: But Austin, if you look at the insights, most of

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Speaker 3: he had four catches in ninety seven yards on off

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Speaker 2: That's not great, not great.

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Speaker 3: Chase brown Austin yesterday had seven catches for twenty one yards.

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Speaker 3: Detroit knew the checkdown was coming, they defended it when

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Speaker 3: opportunities presented themselves. Jake Brownie neither missed the read or

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Speaker 3: missed the throw. There was a questionable flea flicker called

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Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter. Austin, you pointed out today, and

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Speaker 3: it's what I imagined yesterday. They don't line up under center much,

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Speaker 3: must have thought that Detroit was going to bite up

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Speaker 3: on the under center run on a flea flicker, and

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Speaker 3: then Orlando Brown Junior just whiffs and it's a complete disaster.

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Speaker 3: But there's so many holes, and there are so many questions.

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Speaker 3: There's not a lot of talent on this team. There

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Speaker 3: I thought special teams was poor yesterday. Again, we'll talk

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Speaker 3: held Detroit to fourteen in the first half, but when

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Speaker 3: I don't know how to feel about the defense. The

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Speaker 3: d line I thought was better for sacks seven quarterback hits.

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Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson played well. We'll talk about snap count, takeaways

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Speaker 3: on offense and defense. I want to talk about Zach

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Speaker 3: Taylor and Jake Browning more Austin before the touchdown for

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Speaker 3: the Bengals, nineteen straight possessions without a touchdown in the

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Speaker 3: National Football League, nineteen straight possessions. At one point, Jamar

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Speaker 3: Chase was tied for the team lead in tackles with

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Speaker 3: had more interceptions than yards per completion, and they're a

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Speaker 3: fourteen and a half point underdog at Green Bay. As

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Speaker 3: you mentioned, there is so much to sift through for

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Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals, and we'll do so for much of today. Also,

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Speaker 3: we would be remissed Austin not to mention the Bearcats

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Speaker 3: who beat Iowa State thirty eight to thirty.

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Speaker 2: They were up thirty eight.

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Speaker 3: To seven at one point on the fourteenth ranked team

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Speaker 3: what I watch on Sundays with the Bengals. It was

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Speaker 3: one of the most dominant and physical offensive line performances

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Speaker 3: We're gonna out physical you, we're going to out scheme you,

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Speaker 3: an eighty two yard to Caleb Goodie when the team

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Speaker 3: needed it. The most phenomenal, phenomenal win for the UC Bearcats.

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Speaker 3: They are ten and a half point favorite right now

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Speaker 3: when they do it again on Saturday against UCF the

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Speaker 3: and the Bearcats right now apevol ap pole is out.

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Speaker 3: They are twenty sixth technically in the Ape Pole, so

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Speaker 3: just outside the top twenty five. Somehow Austin they are

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Speaker 3: still ranked behind Iowa State and Penn State somehow still

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Speaker 3: ranked after the worst loss that I can remember in

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Speaker 4: Oh man doesn't get anywhere rank. He did say something

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's tough.

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously a tough place to play there in

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Speaker 4: and what seventeen thousand people there or something like that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's just it's James Franklin to a t.

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Speaker 4: I hope he is the Penn State coach forever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to the crowd at the University of Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Nippert Stadium was fantastic. On Saturday, we'll talk more about

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Speaker 3: the Bearcats. FC Cincinnati wins over New York one to

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Speaker 3: oh over the weekend. They host Montreal on October eighteenth,

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Speaker 3: but they can no longer clinch the supporter Shield that

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Speaker 3: was clinched by Philly. But FC Cincinnati did win their

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Speaker 3: match over the weekend as well. MLB Playoffs Dodgers come

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Speaker 3: the Yankees with power and with home runs. Through two games.

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Speaker 3: Tigers win Game one and eleven innings on the road.

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Speaker 3: They get skewball in Game two, but the Mariners find

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Speaker 4: Welcome back Monday Midday Quarterback ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Days.

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Speaker 4: That's so funny man, I'm just thinking about the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Like, what what are you thinking about? Just laugh? Play calls,

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Speaker 4: They didn't get embarrassed. I thought there were some good starts,

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Speaker 4: And I never really felt like it got that way.

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Speaker 4: Do you know that, Uh, Joseph Osai actually had more

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Speaker 2: Another failure of a draft pack.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Logan Wilson played one hundred percent of the snaps.

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Speaker 4: So with Oron Burks, I thought he would play a

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Speaker 2: Sam Laporta. Okay, his job.

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Speaker 4: If Sam Laporta stays back to block, you go up.

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Speaker 2: That was the plan. I'm gonna say it again.

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Speaker 4: not that much of a drop off between Si and

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Speaker 4: Sample rushing the passer as there would be with Demetrius

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Speaker 4: Knight Junior. And there's a significant drop off in those

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Speaker 4: two guys in coverage compared to the dark Knight that

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Speaker 4: I thought was a big miss by al Gol.

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Speaker 3: Too many times I'm seeing DNZ dropping the coverage on

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Speaker 3: the tight ends and then I'm seeing linebackers matching up

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Speaker 3: with Aman Ross Saint Brown. Yeah, make those ideas make sense.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't. It does not make sense.

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Speaker 4: And you drafted these linebackers DK, Darius Knight Junior, Dimitrius

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Speaker 4: Night Junior, and Barrett Carter because of their ability in

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Speaker 4: pass coverage. So here's the thought, let's use him in

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Speaker 4: pass coach.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: Offensively quick snap count takeaway, they went far less twelve

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Speaker 3: personnel this game than they have in any other game

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Speaker 3: this year. Yoshi vash played eighty seven percent of yesterday snaps,

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Speaker 3: Jamar Chase ninety two. You'd never guess this. Austin T.

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Speaker 3: Higgins only missed two snaps in the game, yet they

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Speaker 3: couldn't find a way to get him the a catch

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Speaker 3: more than three times for twenty two yards. That's a

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Speaker 3: whole other conversation that we're gonna have to have. But

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Speaker 3: Mike Kasicki only played fifty percent of the snaps, Drew

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Speaker 3: Sample forty four percent, Noah Fan twenty four percent. Tanner

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Speaker 3: Hudson played one snap. Far less twelve personnel seemed to

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Speaker 3: be one of the adjustments that the Bengals were gonna

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Speaker 3: try yesterday. I don't think we saw really any improvement

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Speaker 3: from them going with twelve to them not going with

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Speaker 3: twelve personnel. The only other thing to me that stood

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Speaker 3: out outside of that one rep by Dalton Reisner Chase

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Speaker 3: Brown fifty three percent of the snaps, Samaj p Ryan

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Speaker 3: forty seven percent, almost a fifty to fifty split between

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Speaker 3: Chase Brown and Samaj p Ryan.

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Speaker 2: And it's not like Samaj was in there just a

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Speaker 2: pass blot.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 4: He ran the football four times for twenty seven yards

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Speaker 4: and Chase Brown ran the football eight times for twenty

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Speaker 4: seven yards. I thought Samaj looked pretty good running the ball.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I don't know exactly how there's so

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Speaker 4: many plays that you can go through and say, okay, well,

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Speaker 4: if this person had gotten his block, Chase Brown might

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Speaker 4: score a touchdown. And you don't always say that with

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Speaker 4: a guy like Samaj jp Ryan. But I thought he

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Speaker 4: performed well, especially on special teams. Brought the wood on

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Speaker 4: Khalif Raymond, which was pretty cool to see. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean I thought it was a tough stat line.

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Speaker 4: Chase Brown had seven catches for twenty one yards. Three

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Speaker 4: yards of catch.

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Speaker 3: That tells me Jake Browning just trying to dump it

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Speaker 3: down and the defense was like, okay, we know that's coming.

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Speaker 4: You could if Jake Browning could process even at a

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Speaker 4: fraction faster, that might be seven catches for eighty yards.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 4: It's like the times he has a chance to throw

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Speaker 4: to Chase Brown, he's late and the times that he

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Speaker 4: does throw to Chase Brown he misses somebody else. That's

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Speaker 4: what is so good about Joe Burrow, and Joe always

494
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Speaker 4: talks about the idea of just finding completions. Joe is

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Speaker 4: superpower is that ability to process at the snap? Okay,

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Speaker 4: not there, not their checkdown and you get the ball

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Speaker 4: to Chase Brown, or you get the ball to Drew Sample,

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Speaker 4: or you get the ball to somebody coming out of

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Speaker 4: the backfield quickly enough that then go get your four

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Speaker 4: or five yards and keep you ahead of the sticks.

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Speaker 4: Jake Browning, it's like he'll wait and wait and wait

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Speaker 4: and wait. Is anybody can come up? Okay, now I'll

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Speaker 4: check it down. By that point, they're already moving in

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Speaker 4: position to bring your your ball carrier down. And then

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Speaker 4: the situation late in the game where he threw the

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Speaker 4: interception to Alex Anzeloni. You know, I've never played quarterback

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Speaker 4: in the National Football League like you have, but I

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Speaker 4: do think I probably could have gotten back to my

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Speaker 4: checkdown and thrown it there. And the way for Jake

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Speaker 4: Browning did because that took so long.

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Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, one of your checkdowns on

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Speaker 3: that play was Jamar Chase separation.

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Speaker 2: What are we doing? It's frustrating. Demetrius and I had

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Speaker 2: how many snaps?

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Speaker 3: Again, Demetrious percentage uhift eight percent?

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Speaker 4: And you know he led the team in tackles. Oh

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Speaker 4: maybe that Warrant's playing.

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Speaker 2: More a TfL as well.

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Speaker 4: You know he he he played uh twenty six less

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Speaker 4: snaps than Logan Wilson. Jamar Chase had more tackles than

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Speaker 4: Trey Henderson yesterday. Actually, can I read it? I want

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Speaker 4: to give you a list here please, Trey Uh, Jamar

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Speaker 4: Chase had more tackles than Chris Jenkins, Cam sample Orren Burks,

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Speaker 4: Trey Henderson, Cam Taylor Britt, Mike Penel, Miles Murphy, samaj p,

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Speaker 4: Ryan Tyson, Anderson Shaka hey were Josh Newton, DJ Turner,

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Speaker 4: McKinley Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Oh my lord, what are we doing?

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Speaker 4: You know what I gotta I do, gotta before we

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Speaker 4: end this segment, shout out to Evan McPherson because he

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Speaker 4: didn't hear no damn bell.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: I was fighting for that on side kick, and I

533
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Speaker 4: was glad to see some of that attitude from Evan McPherson.

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Speaker 4: He's not afraid. Yeah, he was getting in the scrum.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to man, he's probably sore as hell today.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to f he ain't been hit like that

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Speaker 4: in a while. What a night, What a day, What

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Speaker 4: a day to react.

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Speaker 3: We'll start with some of your reactions next Monday, midday

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Speaker 3: Quarterback on the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 6: You've been listening to football in the NATI on ESPN

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Speaker 6: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: This is what it sounds like to.

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Speaker 6: Win out though, ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 7: Third down and.

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Speaker 8: Eight, Cats at their own eighteen yard line. Soorsby catches

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Speaker 8: the shotgun snap. He's looking to throw, floats it high

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Speaker 8: and deep downfield. Good even a catch racing to the

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Speaker 8: forty thirty twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 9: Ten five touchdown bear Cats eighty two yards and in

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Speaker 9: case you're wondering, no penalty flags.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable. What a throw from Brendan Soarsby. He's been all

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Speaker 3: a couple times today on that deep ball. Couldn't place

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Speaker 3: it any better on that one. They took the aggressiveness

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Speaker 3: of Biawa State, especially on the back end. The safety

557
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Speaker 3: comes up good, he gets over the top. Soresby lays

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Speaker 3: it up and the rest is history. What an unbelievable

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Speaker 3: throw at the biggest moment in the game from Brendan Soresby. Hey,

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Speaker 3: that sounds like a win Schuler's call of the day.

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Speaker 3: That sounds like a win Schuler's call of the day.

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Speaker 3: Thanks to our friends at Win Schulers and their four

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Speaker 3: fantastic cheese spreads which are perfect for your tailgate, get together, holiday,

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Speaker 3: of your night or day, or party or morning. Maybe

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Speaker 3: Whatever it is, Win Schulers has what you need. I

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Speaker 3: love Dan's call on that because he made sure to

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Speaker 3: mention there was no flags. At one point, after Matt

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Speaker 3: Campbell was flagged for going after an official, they called

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Speaker 3: a penalty on seven straight place against the Bearcats.

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Speaker 2: Seventh straight amazing. Never seen anything like it.

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Speaker 3: But the Bearcats overcome that, find a way to get

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Speaker 3: a win and and put themselves in a good position

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Speaker 3: here in the Big twelve.

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Speaker 2: Give a shout out to our guy Jim Kelly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, praying for him obviously the news came out Jim

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Speaker 4: announced dealing with a cancer battle and is going to

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Speaker 4: be missing the rest of the season in the booth,

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Speaker 4: So praying for Jim. I know he listens to the show,

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Speaker 4: loves the show, and we love him. So hope you

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Speaker 4: feel better, Jam.

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Speaker 2: Right, I said this weekend.

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Speaker 4: Jim is the name Kelly at the University of Cincinnati,

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Speaker 4: from his dad to Jim to the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: His name to me means excellence at the University of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: And as high as I hold him on the football

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Speaker 4: side of things, I hold him even to high as

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Speaker 4: a person, genuinely one of the greatest and nicest people

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Speaker 4: you'll ever meet. And our thoughts and prayers are certainly

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Speaker 4: with Jim Kelly as he goes through his battle right now,

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Speaker 4: and we wish him nothing but the best and there

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Speaker 4: for him every step of the way. Let's take some

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Speaker 4: phone calls. Let's allow folks to get some stuff off

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Speaker 4: their chest. Let's start with Jeff. What's up, Jeff.

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Speaker 7: Happy if we'd won the on side kick Monday?

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Speaker 2: Jents, Well, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, if we'd have won the on side kick, Jeff,

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Speaker 3: Zach Taylor thinks we're winning that game for sure?

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Speaker 10: Is he on Io High schoo with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: Or I when I when I heard that quote, I

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Speaker 3: thought it was Ai. I thought it was Ai generated

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Speaker 3: John Just you know, we're an onside kick away from

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Speaker 3: probably winning this game.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Well, I'm not going to count the weekend

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Speaker 7: as a total loss. The Yankees are down oh to

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Speaker 7: two because of all those rally killing home runs. Arch

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Speaker 7: Manning lost again. So there's some bright sides of what happened,

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Speaker 7: But onto the lost side of the weekend.

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Speaker 5: Who's more washed?

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Speaker 7: Ted Carrott, Ted Harris or Logan Wilson.

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Speaker 3: Oh Manichach Taylor?

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Speaker 7: Maybe?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think still at this point, Carris's play has

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Speaker 3: just been so poor. But but it's pro probably closer

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Speaker 3: than I would think.

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Speaker 7: Do you think Logan Wilson just does not sit out

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Speaker 7: Golden's scheme?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, because when Al Golden was originally here,

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Speaker 3: Logan Wilson was fantastic as ane as a linebacker when

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Speaker 3: Al Golden was coaching him. So maybe it's a scheme.

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Speaker 3: But as Austin said, nothing about the scheme makes sense

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Speaker 3: because you got defensive ends dropping into coverage, and you

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Speaker 3: got coverage linebackers that aren't being used in coverage. None

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Speaker 3: of it makes sense right.

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Speaker 7: Now, well, and when they ran the wildcat with golfit

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Speaker 7: wide receiver, why didn't they call time out? Nobody knew

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Speaker 7: what was going on on that play.

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Speaker 10: Yep, it's just easy call a time out and let

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Speaker 10: it reset.

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Speaker 7: Let him know that you know what's coming. So and

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Speaker 7: then my second thought is there is a waiting list

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Speaker 7: for season tickets supposedly, right, yes, do we know if

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Speaker 7: they offer those people the first right to buy unused

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Speaker 7: season tickets?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I don't know that. I don't think so. I think, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was yesterday.

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Speaker 7: Out against Pittsburgh, maybe even worse than yesterday.

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Speaker 4: I'm worried about the Pittsburgh crowd with how bad that

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Speaker 4: was yesterday.

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Speaker 7: Yesterday was the worst I've ever seen it. It was

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Speaker 7: just I hope Mike or Katie was sitting in the

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Speaker 7: owner's box looking across the field at all that blue

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Speaker 7: on the visitors side. I know they don't care, But

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Speaker 7: can't we donate unused tickets the youth football programs or

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Speaker 7: programs that went to the states last year or something

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Speaker 7: that It seems to make sense to me, But we

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Speaker 7: know they don't think what sense down there all the time.

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Speaker 7: So all right, let's get on to everybody else who

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Speaker 7: has something to say.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Jeff, I appreciate that. Let's go to John,

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Speaker 3: Let's go to Boston.

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Speaker 2: What's up John, Tony Austin, good afternoon. How are you good?

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Speaker 2: How are you good?

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Speaker 10: We're hanging in there or hanging in there now. I

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Speaker 10: have one suggestion. First of all, there are internships available, correct,

658
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Speaker 10: So why not have Brendan Swarsby played for the bear

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Speaker 10: Cats on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: As on Sunday?

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Speaker 4: Like this?

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Speaker 2: I like this, you know, let's not forget that.

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Speaker 10: Jake Browne in one hundred and twenty four passing attempts

664
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Speaker 10: this year eight interceptions, Joe Burrow in six hundred and

665
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Speaker 10: fifty two passing attempts last year nine interceptions. So obviously

666
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Speaker 10: a downgrade in quarterback to say the least. But I

667
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Speaker 10: think we could pin a lot of this on Zach Taylor,

668
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Speaker 10: a lot of it on Duke Tobin. But it has

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Speaker 10: to start with ownership, just the relative cheapness of the organization.

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Speaker 10: I remember last week you and Moe were talking about

671
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Speaker 10: how Denver was susceptible to running backs coming out of

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Speaker 10: the backfield catching passes. I'm not sure if the Bengals

673
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Speaker 10: knew that because We heard a big story in the

674
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Speaker 10: offseason that they double their analytics staffs from one to two.

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Speaker 10: Now you're going against a bunch of teams like the

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Speaker 10: Eagles and the Ravens and the Chiefs that have twenty

677
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Speaker 10: twenty two to twenty four members of an analytics staff.

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Speaker 10: So you're playing from behind when it comes to those

679
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Speaker 10: types of things. So obviously they have to spend more

680
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Speaker 10: money there. I think in a macro aspect, they need

681
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Speaker 10: a football zar, you know, someone who can come in

682
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Speaker 10: run the football program, general manager, coach, fully staffed coaching staffs,

683
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Speaker 10: scouting staffs. But that's not going to happen. That's not

684
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Speaker 10: going to happen because this is the one team and

685
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Speaker 10: I have this some pretty good sources, guys who cover

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Speaker 10: the league, that this is the one team that before

687
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Speaker 10: the season starts as we are going to make seventy

688
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Speaker 10: five million dollars or we're going to make eighty million

689
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Speaker 10: dollars and then goes from there. So you can't win

690
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Speaker 10: when you have that type of method. Going forward and

691
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Speaker 10: looking at Zach Taylor and I'll tweet these out to

692
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Speaker 10: you tomorrow, eight and twenty six without Joe Burrow is

693
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Speaker 10: a quarterback that's twenty four percent winning percentage, forty five,

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Speaker 10: thirty two and one, which is nearly sixty percent winning.

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Speaker 2: Percentage with Joe Burrow is his quarterback.

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Speaker 10: Now, when we talk about head coaches guys, right, they

697
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Speaker 10: usually fall into two categories and tony who played the game.

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Speaker 10: You have the Dan Campbell, Mike Grabel, Demiko Ryans, the

699
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Speaker 10: former players who come in the room, big strong guys

700
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Speaker 10: have a presence of the CEO type coaches. Or you

701
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Speaker 10: have the brainyacts who are the ex's and o's guys.

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Speaker 10: I don't know where Zach Taylor fits. He's certainly not

703
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Speaker 10: a motor. He doesn't, you know, remind you Dan Campbell

704
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Speaker 10: in the least. And I don't really find it would

705
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Speaker 10: be all that brilliant with x's and o's. So I

706
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Speaker 10: what exactly does he offer the head coach?

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Speaker 3: So to me, that was one of the questions, because remember,

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Speaker 3: and I think I don't have the quote directly Austin,

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Speaker 3: but Jamar Chay said something last week along the lines

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Speaker 3: of we need more fire and anger, and I find

711
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Speaker 3: myself wondering who delivers fire and anger on this staff.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's Zach. I don't think it's al

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Speaker 3: golden and I wonder from which players it comes because

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Speaker 3: for players it's unique because you have to be able

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Speaker 3: to be a leader, but your play also has to

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Speaker 3: reflect that. Like I think Ted Carris can be that guy.

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Speaker 3: But if Ted Carris has harpened on players to play

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Speaker 3: better or do their job, the players are going to say, well,

719
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Speaker 3: do your job.

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Speaker 2: What do you harpen on me for? And you're not

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Speaker 2: doing your job. So I like that.

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Speaker 3: Jamar says we need more fire and anger. I just

723
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Speaker 3: don't know who it comes from.

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Speaker 10: Does it come from someone other than the quarterback. I mean,

725
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Speaker 10: obviously the quarterback can provide that, but if that's not

726
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Speaker 10: in his DNA's person, then that starts what's going to happen.

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Speaker 10: I always think it comes from the offensive lineman, and

728
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Speaker 10: then you can talk about it all the time. When

729
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Speaker 10: you played at the University of Cincinnati's at Jason Kelsey

730
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Speaker 10: was the guy that basically had everybody fired up for

731
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Speaker 10: the game, right, It usually comes from the offensive line

732
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Speaker 10: or even the offensive line coach, who you know sometimes

733
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Speaker 10: are a little bit, you know, a few cards short

734
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Speaker 10: of a full deck, but nonetheless the motivators of the team, well,

735
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Speaker 10: the special teams coach, I don't even get any of that,

736
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Speaker 10: and it's sound like a broken record. But when I

737
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Speaker 10: saw the play against Jacksonville where the ball slipped out

738
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Speaker 10: of Burrow's hand, he chased it because it wasn't sure

739
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Speaker 10: if as an incompletion or a fumble. He's the only

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Speaker 10: guy that chased the ball. They did recover it, it was

741
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Speaker 10: called it in completion. He stood up and got cheap

742
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Speaker 10: shotted from behind by someone on Jacksonville, and not one

743
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Speaker 10: offensive lineman came to his defense. You picture if that

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Speaker 10: happened to you at the University of Finnatti with Jason

745
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Speaker 10: Kelsey would have done.

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Speaker 3: It wouldn't have and if it did, and I respect it,

747
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Speaker 3: he would have probably got a fifteen yard penalty on

748
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Speaker 3: top of it for going after someone that did that.

749
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Speaker 10: Good, because that's but yes, Ben, you want that Kyle

750
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Speaker 10: Turley took someone's helmet off because they keep shot and

751
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Speaker 10: Drew brees Corre like, is there a disconnect with Joe

752
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Speaker 10: and the offensive line?

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Speaker 2: I can't see that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean when we saw the quarterback on Netflix,

755
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Speaker 10: he has.

756
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Speaker 2: Them over his house.

757
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Speaker 10: He gave them those beautiful Samurai so ones which are

758
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 10: kind of laughable considering none of those guys play like samurais.

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Speaker 10: But I just, you know, I just don't understand that.

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Speaker 10: And then I still think it starts from the top guys.

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Speaker 10: If they're not going to invest in the franchise.

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Speaker 2: This is where you're at.

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Speaker 10: You've basically been a five hundred team since two thousand

764
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Speaker 10: and three, and you've only had two head coaches, the

765
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Speaker 10: same amount as Pittsburgh and Baltimore, one more than the

766
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Speaker 10: Patriots during that time, and those teams have won a

767
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Speaker 10: total of Bay Super Bowls. And the Binalds are five

768
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Speaker 10: hundred teams since two thousand and three with two head coaches.

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Speaker 10: And he's not going to get fired because if Borrow

770
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Speaker 10: doesn't come back, ownership will say, well, we lost our quarterback,

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Speaker 10: let's run.

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Speaker 2: It back next year. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I hope that's not the crutch, but I could see

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Speaker 3: that also being the crutch if things don't get better. John,

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Speaker 3: Thank you, man, appreciate the call. All Right, fellas, let's

776
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Speaker 3: grab one more then we'll grab a break.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Dante, Hey, what's up?

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Speaker 7: Hey?

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Speaker 5: I got a new name for your show. We're gonna

780
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 5: call it the TNA. So anyway, I got some things

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Speaker 5: to fix the real kick big dollar. First off, get

782
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Speaker 5: rid of that. Go get Joe Brady from the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 5: He was Burrow and Chases coordinator Lsu help out because

784
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Speaker 5: he knows how to make your work. Joe Brady, what

785
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Speaker 5: do you think about him?

786
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Speaker 4: Chris Collinsworth had some critical words for Joe Brady last night.

787
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Speaker 4: That offense kind of stalled out, but.

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Speaker 2: I'd be open to it.

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Speaker 4: I think he's one of those guys that you would

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Speaker 4: have to consider. I mean, I think right now, like

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Speaker 4: three names that immediately come to mind. Jeff Hafley, the

792
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Speaker 4: defensive coordinator the Green Bay Packers, Joe Brad, Joe Brady

793
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Speaker 4: in Buffalo. I think Doug Peterson is an interesting one.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I'd go with him, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I think you would have to at

796
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Speaker 4: least consider Joe Brady.

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Speaker 5: Okay, and it's sad too when your star receiver leaves

798
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Speaker 5: the team that tackles was during one point.

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Speaker 2: It's not good.

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Speaker 10: That's really bad.

801
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Speaker 5: And also, okay, fellas and I got this thing, and

802
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Speaker 5: please nobody get mad at me. I've set, but I

803
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 5: got a wait a solution to help us out. As

804
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Speaker 5: far as like the quarterback situation. We know Joe's coming back.

805
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Speaker 5: He's had four surgeries in four years. Honestly, with the

806
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Speaker 5: way we go on the team, I hate to say

807
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Speaker 5: I love Joey, my idol, but he's not gonna make

808
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Speaker 5: it ten years. So let's do like Aaron Rodgers Jordan

809
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Speaker 5: Love situation. Go ahead, call the Browns, give him a

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Speaker 5: four hundred five shuder.

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Speaker 2: And just sit.

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Speaker 5: So you're gonna sit for two to three years. Learn

813
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 5: the system. That way, we got somebody mobile. Then when

814
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 5: our line doesn't block, won't get killed because Jacob Snate.

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Speaker 5: You know that that that played at the end of

816
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Speaker 5: the game yesterday, I think that was Alando that let

817
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Speaker 5: that lineman get right past him. I didn't think he

818
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Speaker 5: was getting up from that hit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the the hits are continuing. The old line play

820
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Speaker 3: is not much better. Dante, thanks for the call. I

821
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Speaker 3: don't think I'm ready to package the picks yet. I

822
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Speaker 3: don't think I'm ready to pull the plug on Joe yet.

823
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Speaker 3: We gotta well, yeah, no, we're not gonna.

824
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Speaker 4: I think he was saying, go get shit, or for

825
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 4: Joe's ultimate demise, everything should be on.

826
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Speaker 2: The doors out of I don't think he's that mobile.

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Speaker 4: Either everything should be on the table, sure, I don't

828
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Speaker 4: know if that should.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a lot to sort through. Let's finish

830
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Speaker 3: up our number one. We come back. As we get

831
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Speaker 3: into our number two, we'll grab more of your phone

832
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 3: calls as well before talkback. So hang with us, Chad,

833
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 3: hang with us, Mark and anyone else. Five one, three, seven,

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Speaker 3: four nine, fifteen thirty The Monday midday Quarterback ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station, See.

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Speaker 2: What's going on in Baseball?

837
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Speaker 6: Getting ESPN fifteen thirty from iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Me not alone, Nick A strong mine. I gotta have

839
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Speaker 2: some fun tonight.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: This season continues the way it is, we're gonna be

842
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 3: pouring a lot of drinks.

843
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 4: I agree with that, a lot of drinks. When do

844
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 4: we start talking draft?

845
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 2: Boy? Bye? Yeah? Did he get the does he get

846
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 2: that far?

847
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 4: Sooner rather than later? Unfortunately, it's going to be. That's

848
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 4: gonna be a lot of draft talk. IM not a

849
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Speaker 4: fan of that. I'm not excited about that coming down.

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Speaker 3: Did you echo Zach Taylor's feelings at the end of

851
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Speaker 3: the game there that that if you recover that on side,

852
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 3: do you think you win the game. Sure, Okay, why

853
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Speaker 3: not do you echo his sentiment that that there's still

854
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Speaker 3: trust and belief in Jake Browning. Uh No, you think

855
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 3: the locker room believes in that. I have a couple

856
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 3: of Zach Taylor's sound bites. Do you want to use

857
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Speaker 3: those now?

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Speaker 2: Or please? Next segment?

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Speaker 5: No?

860
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Speaker 2: Please?

861
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Speaker 4: Okay, here's here's the first one. Okay, here's the first

862
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Speaker 4: or actual soundbites. This is not a this is real.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 11: I gotta do a better job getting this into a rhythm.

865
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Speaker 11: Get us away where we can sustain some drives, put

866
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Speaker 11: points on the board. There's some place he's gonna want

867
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Speaker 11: to have back. I'm glad he hung in there, made

868
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Speaker 11: some place force down the stretch. Three straight touchdown drives

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Speaker 11: at the end of the game. I'm sure a lot

870
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Speaker 11: of people wanted him on the bench at that point.

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Speaker 2: I could hear it. And you stuck with.

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Speaker 11: Him, and he comes back and has three straight drives

873
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Speaker 11: for touchdowns, and that's that's the Jake Browning. I know

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Speaker 11: he's resilient.

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Speaker 3: Thoughts that to me sounds like gain some confidence as

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Speaker 3: the game went on. We're gonna roll that into next week.

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Speaker 3: Status quo. Don't need to make a change all right,

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Speaker 3: here's number two.

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Speaker 10: I do.

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Speaker 11: I of course, after a game like that, we're gonna

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Speaker 11: look at all personnel to make sure we're doing the

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Speaker 11: right thing. So I won't shy away from that because

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Speaker 11: it's a very fair question after the amount of turnovers

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Speaker 11: we have. But to say that, I don't think Jay

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Speaker 11: can win games for us. I believe Jake and win

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Speaker 11: games force I do.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't either, very simply what, I don't believe he

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Speaker 4: can win games. I don't believe he can beat the Packers.

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Speaker 4: I don't believe he can beat the Steelers. Hell at

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Speaker 4: this point, I don't know if he can beat the Jets, Sobering,

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Speaker 4: you know what this is leading up to. You know,

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Speaker 4: the Jets through five weeks do not have a single

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Speaker 4: takeaway yep, and they may not for the next They'll

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Speaker 4: have two weeks, they'll have a season's worth. Glenn said

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Speaker 4: after the game yesterday. We gotta keep doing what we're doing,

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Speaker 4: and they're gonna come. They're gonna come in bunches. Okay,

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Speaker 4: October twenty six and be honey, bunches of votes at

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Speaker 4: the stadium on that night. If Jake Browning is still

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Speaker 4: the quarterback on October twenty Sixthikes, yikes, that.

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Speaker 2: Would mean one of two things. One neither were good.

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Speaker 4: He caught fire against Green Bay and Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: And the season might be back on. Or two Brett Ripping,

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Speaker 2: Mike White, and Sean Clifford all got hurt. Yeah, or

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Speaker 2: sick couldn't make the trip.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Either way, that wouldn't make.

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Speaker 3: You feel if you're Mike White walking in there. What

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Speaker 3: am I doing here? My agent said this was a

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Speaker 3: good choice. What are we doing? I don't know, And

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Speaker 3: again I don't know. How you you go forward with

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Speaker 3: where you're at and keep its status quo. I hope

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Speaker 3: that's just coach speak, but my goodness, it was rough

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Speaker 3: to watch our two is next your phone calls more

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Speaker 3: on the Bengals, and we'll look around at a busy

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