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Speaker 2: I think you know what is doing every day, what.

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Speaker 4: Kr C the talk station five oh five Gary champin

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Speaker 4: for Brian Thomas on this December eighth.

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Speaker 5: I'll lie together. It's so precious together. We have grown,

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Speaker 8: An unspeakable tragedy confirmed to us by ABC News in

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Speaker 8: New York City. John Lennon outside of his apartment building

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Speaker 8: on the West side of New York City, the most famous,

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Speaker 4: It has been forty five years since December eighth, nineteen

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Speaker 4: the cultural system. It was a shock to the music

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Speaker 4: paying attention. You may have not cared all that much.

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Speaker 4: You may have not cared for John Lennon, but still

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Speaker 4: in all in the realm of culture and celebrity and influence,

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Speaker 4: John Lennon was a powerful character throughout the sixties and

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Speaker 4: top so well stated this album Double Fantasy, which came

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Speaker 4: out just a couple of months before the shooting, John

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Speaker 4: Lennon felt like he was just starting over, putting away drugs,

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Speaker 4: It is December eighth, twenty twenty five before we look

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Speaker 4: ahead to look back at significant events and people tied

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Speaker 4: to this particular date, including but not limited to these

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Speaker 4: important Bell Weather Day for the United States, and what

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Speaker 4: has happened in the eighty plus years since. December eighth,

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Speaker 4: nineteen forty one, a day after the Imperial Japanese had

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Speaker 4: as Congress declared WAW nineteen eighty seven, President Reagan and

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Speaker 4: Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev signed a treaty at the White

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Speaker 4: playing the nuclear dose do with other superpowers. On this date,

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Speaker 4: just thirteen years ago, Texas A and M quarterback Johnny

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Speaker 4: NATO ceremonially ended their combat mission in Afghanistan the state

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Speaker 4: In twenty fourteen, of course, there was the botch pullout

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Speaker 4: by George by Joe Biden. He doesn't know his name either.

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Speaker 4: In twenty twenty one, John Glenn, who in nineteen sixty

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Speaker 4: and propel that event, propelling him to a long career

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Speaker 4: in the Senate, died in Columbus, Ohio at the age

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Speaker 4: of ninety five. It's been nine years since we lost

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Speaker 4: John Glenn. Twenty twenty two, Russia freed WNBA star Britney

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Speaker 4: a vight pen and also looking very much like a man.

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Speaker 4: Maybe not that last part, I'm not sure. Famous folks

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Speaker 4: celebrating birthdays today, Flutist James Galway is eighty six. It's

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Speaker 4: and prosperous life. Kim Basinger is seventy two. I've always

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Speaker 4: enjoyed Kim basing Actually not the way other men have

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Speaker 4: enjoyed her. But Ann Coulter is sixty four. Have other

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Speaker 4: lot of men have enjoyed Terry Hatcher. She is sixty one. Today,

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Speaker 4: Basketball Hall of Famer Teresa Weatherspoon is sixty. My god,

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Speaker 4: Mike Mussina, a Baseball Hall of Famer, fifty seven Today.

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Speaker 4: if it's your birthday, I hope it is the best

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Speaker 4: summer of hay in twenty twenty. Remember, Cincinnati wasn't immune

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Speaker 4: The old joke, Oh that was the campaign. Today you voted.

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Speaker 4: this morning with the latest. I wonder if Corey Bowman's

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Speaker 4: ever had a car repossessed huh, and I hope the

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Speaker 4: It's great to be with you. I'm glad you showed up.

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Speaker 4: January of twenty twenty four, It's been almost two years

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Speaker 4: ago Mayor A. F. Tab Pureval had his black Lincoln

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Speaker 4: Aviator repossessed. What the mayor says, it was the auto pay.

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Speaker 4: He made a mistake with the auto pay. This was

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Speaker 4: the explanation for a man supposed to be a shining

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Speaker 4: example of fiscal responsibility as the executive in charge of

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Speaker 4: taxpayers money in Cincinnati. I mean kind of what the

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Speaker 4: for our car payments, just automatically comes out every month

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Speaker 4: you probably wouldn't have your car repossess. In fact, I

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Speaker 4: know emphatically you wouldn't. Finance companies who give out car

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Speaker 4: by text, by phone, by email to let you know

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Speaker 4: So it wasn't a one month lapse. It was three months.

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Speaker 4: They came and hooked it up. Don't you know who

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Speaker 4: about one point seven million people in this country that

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Speaker 4: that secret too. But no, the autopay defense of why

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Speaker 4: state of Cincinnati, Aftab said the state of Cincinnati is strong,

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Speaker 4: but violence, housing remained challenges. I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 4: who's in charge of Aftim pure Vol's finances. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I've made a mess of mind before, but I'm not

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Speaker 4: the so called leadership is the city of Cincinnati. We'll

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Speaker 4: get into the George Floyd settlement too, that's now about

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Speaker 4: to be rubber stamped by city council. They knew that

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Speaker 4: It just goes on and on and on, doesn't it.

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Speaker 4: Let's see here two juveniles shot after fight between neighbors

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati police say an argument between neighbors escalated to a

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Speaker 4: is that any better than a drive by over a

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Speaker 4: So one round fire that grazed a juvenile hit the

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Speaker 4: life threatening injuries. I mean, this could happen anywhere in America.

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Speaker 4: leave our guns at home. Have you ever been to

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Speaker 4: Call eight four to four and we continue. I'm just

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Speaker 4: going through these news stories with these other shootings and

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Speaker 4: maybe the new city of brotherly love or sisterly love

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Speaker 4: going to be paid by the City of Cincinnati, which means,

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Speaker 4: I agree with everything you just said, Jay, I believe this.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much. So people work extra hard. They

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Speaker 4: December night, there'll be a meeting and yeah, the City

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Speaker 4: who has made a an incredib career, built an incredible

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Speaker 4: career out of writing about the history of this area,

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Speaker 4: from the Mob and the people that controlled northern Kentucky

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Speaker 4: to Larry Flint, to the pioneers who settled here, to

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati's role in freeing of the slaves. It's an amazing

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Speaker 4: piece body of work that he's put together, and now

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Speaker 4: he's taking readers on another magical history tour. That's the

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Speaker 4: title of his latest Peter Bronson joins us for a

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Speaker 4: few minutes. Hey, Pete, how are you.

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Speaker 12: Peter, I thought maybe you'd play Magical History Tour as

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Speaker 12: we came out.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that's that's true. That's true. So tell me

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Speaker 4: you've been very busy again with a new book out.

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Speaker 4: This is a different kind of book than the other

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Speaker 4: history books you have written, but it still is along

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Speaker 4: the lines of historical notes and stories. These are five

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Speaker 4: short stories. You and I have talked about this about

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Speaker 4: local history that's been buried in more ways than one. Absolutely,

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Speaker 4: so I know you probably talked to Brian about it,

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Speaker 4: but just refresh the listener's memories on what magical History

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Speaker 4: tours about.

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Speaker 12: Yes, this is, as you pointed out, a collection of

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Speaker 12: five short stories. And I know that readers often like

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Speaker 12: a book that they can dip into, and our tension

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Speaker 12: spans aren't what they used to be always, So anyway,

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Speaker 12: this one has grave robbery, It has an adventure on

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Speaker 12: the Oregon Trail and the gold Rush.

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Speaker 1: It has a.

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Speaker 12: Story about Cincinnati's first serial killer, who incidentally was a woman,

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Speaker 12: and also the first woman's go to the electric chair.

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Speaker 12: And we have also a story about a couple of

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Speaker 12: Shaker women who were banished from the Whitewater village and

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Speaker 12: they showed up in Cincinnati for a week and then

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Speaker 12: they were found in a hotel room dead.

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Speaker 1: So there's a mystery, there's adventure, there's local history. Is

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Speaker 1: just so full of great treasures and stories that I

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Speaker 1: just loved get them endto it.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned grave robbery, and this was actually very very

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Speaker 4: This was a lucrative business for people who were willing

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Speaker 4: to do it. Talk about the history of grave robbery

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Speaker 4: in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 12: Well, just since I wrote this book, I was contacted

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Speaker 12: by someone who read it who was a great friend

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Speaker 12: of mine, Lieutenant Stephen Kramer at the Cincinnati Police Museum. Yeah,

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Speaker 12: and he pointed out that there was actually a custom

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Speaker 12: that was known as burking, and this was when you

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Speaker 12: killed someone so that you could sell the body. So

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Speaker 12: there were grave robbers that were really in big business

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Speaker 12: in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: In fact, it was a.

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Speaker 12: Hub of grave robbery. They called them resurrection men or

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Speaker 12: body snatchers, and they would take the bodies and sell

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Speaker 12: them to the medical schools all over the Midwest, including

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Speaker 12: as far north as ann Arbor, Michigan. And they would.

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Speaker 1: Then also sell the clothes. So if you're looking for

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Speaker 1: a bargain suit, you might think that it smelled a

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Speaker 1: little funny.

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Speaker 4: Oh, Lord of my word, so go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 12: Oh well, yeah, this one was about the story of

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Speaker 12: the President William Henry Harrison. His son John Scott Harrison

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Speaker 12: was buried and in eighteen seventy eight after a sudden

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Speaker 12: illness and death, and he was stolen from his grave

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Speaker 12: this same night. And this happened to be not just

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Speaker 12: the son of a president, but also the father of

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Speaker 12: another president, Benjamin Harrison. So this is the only man

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Speaker 12: in US history who is the.

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Speaker 1: Father and who is the father of the president and

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Speaker 1: the son of the president.

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Speaker 4: That's amazing. That's amazing. And when you do this, and

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Speaker 4: I've asked you this before, but I mean, are you

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Speaker 4: just flipping on your phone and searching things. You've got

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Speaker 4: to actually search through documents. When you're detailing these hidden stories,

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Speaker 4: I mean you have to do a lot of dive

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Speaker 4: in and deep dives. And you pride yourself in not

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Speaker 4: having AI help you write any of your books.

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Speaker 1: No, I do not use any assist I like the

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Speaker 1: old fashioned style of reporting, which is a lot easier

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Speaker 1: these days thanks to the web, and I'm able, but

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Speaker 1: I really love the research. It's fun to dive into

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Speaker 1: these things. And as you go deeper and deeper, you

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Speaker 1: find little kind of detours or side paths, and you

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Speaker 1: follow that you find another treasure. So but there are, indeed,

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Speaker 1: as you point out, great resources. There's the National Archives.

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Speaker 1: There are first person accounts of a lot of these things.

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Speaker 1: The original newspaper stories are great for assist. And we

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Speaker 1: have preasures in.

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Speaker 12: Cincinnati for research, including the archives in the at the

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Speaker 12: Museum Center, and that is a great source. And are

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Speaker 12: super staff of people down there for helping.

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Speaker 4: I mean, is is that easy to access for just

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Speaker 4: the normal person? I mean, you're Peter Bronson for goodness sake.

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Speaker 4: But if Joe Smith wanted to go to the Museum

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Speaker 4: Center and and check out the archives, what kind of

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Speaker 4: process would you use if you're interested in something like that, I.

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Speaker 12: Would suggest as call and make an appointment, and anybody

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Speaker 12: can go a lot of people use that and other

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Speaker 12: sources for genealogical research, ancestry so forth, or just finding

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Speaker 12: out about their neighborhood. But yeah, sure, they're very great people.

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Speaker 12: The librarians there are super helpful and it's pretty easy.

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Speaker 12: But you know the thing is when you start to

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Speaker 12: do dig into some of this research, as the oak

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Speaker 12: Cleiche goes, it's like drinking out of a fire hose.

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Speaker 12: There will be so much information about these things that

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Speaker 12: you can't believe it. So just strap in and get

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Speaker 12: ready because the research is so much fun.

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Speaker 4: Now, you had a couple of book signings over the weekend.

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Speaker 4: You've been very busy with that. Yes, and you have

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Speaker 4: an appointment with the ladies tomorrow. Tell me about that.

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Speaker 10: Yes, I have a couple coming up I have Tomorrow

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Speaker 10: I will be speaking to the Northeast Republican Women at

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Speaker 10: the RSVP Center in Loveland, and then on Saturday, for

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Speaker 10: the general public, I will be doing a signing at Joseph.

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Speaker 12: Beth Bookstore or jose Best Booksellers, I guess is the

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Speaker 12: proper name in Rookwood, and I will be there from

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Speaker 12: one to three along with two or three other local authors.

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Speaker 12: So that should be a good opportunity. If you want

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Speaker 12: to get a sign book as a gift for Christmas,

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Speaker 12: that's a great opportunity, or anytime somebody wants to go

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Speaker 12: to my website. Right now, I'm doing a special on

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Speaker 12: free shipping until Christmas, and these books are all signed

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Speaker 12: from the website as well.

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Speaker 4: Are you working on anything else right now now that

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Speaker 4: you've got this one.

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Speaker 12: Finished, well right now, I'm working on working with various

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Speaker 12: clients my company Chili Dog Press, which is also the

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Speaker 12: website chillydogpress dot com. My company Chili Dog does titles

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Speaker 12: for other authors as well. I do about twelve to

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Speaker 12: fifteen titles a year, so I have about right now

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Speaker 12: about six books in various stages of coming in for

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Speaker 12: a landing for some of my author clients. That keeps

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Speaker 12: me pretty busy.

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Speaker 4: I'm still working on my manuscript, Peter for the story

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Speaker 4: of the career of Gary Jeff Walker out. I'll get

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Speaker 4: it to you all.

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Speaker 12: Right, Yeah, absolutely, I can help you. I just happen

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Speaker 12: to know a publisher do Yeah, yes, I too.

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Speaker 4: It's Peter Bronson's latest magical history tour with five short

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Speaker 4: stories that will keep you turning the pages at chilidogpress

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Speaker 4: dot com. If you'd like a sign copy and time

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Speaker 4: for Christmas, Pete can make that happen. Thank you for

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Speaker 4: making this happen. It's always great to talk to you, Peter.

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Speaker 12: Always a pleasure to be with you too. Gary Jeff.

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Speaker 1: I hope you have a wonderful day.

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Speaker 4: You two six fifteen at fifty five KRCV talk station

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Speaker 4: celebrate the season by giving the one you love something unforgettable.

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Speaker 4: Visit James Free dot com. Do you remember a man

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Speaker 4: named Robert Redfield? Back during the scamdemic, he was the

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Speaker 4: those of us who live through it. He says, now

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Speaker 4: COVID nineteen vaccines from Pfizer and Maderna should be pulled

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Speaker 4: Maderna vaccines against COVID nineteen utilized messenger ribu nucleic acid.

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Speaker 4: We've all heard of mRNA by now, right, and they

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Speaker 4: During the pandemic, he was the director. Redfield was of

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Speaker 4: it because they were threatened if they didn't toe the line.

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Speaker 4: But there's no way to know what these possible injuries

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Speaker 4: to be long term until you've got some time behind it.

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Speaker 4: We've had plenty of time now, and we see that

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Speaker 4: in many cases across them from embalmers who have studied

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Speaker 4: a good idea because it absolutely, in many ways, tragically

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Speaker 4: changes the human body. Man. I'm still glad I didn't

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Speaker 4: get any of the jabs. Six twenty five at fifty

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Speaker 4: a little shotgun. On a Monday morning at six thirty

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Speaker 4: Gary jeff In for Brian Thomas on the morning show.

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Speaker 4: Tony Bender was going to talk to the hero of

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Speaker 4: Sutherland Springs, Texas. Sutherland Springs, Texas. You may remember Stephen Williford.

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Speaker 4: He was the grandfather who heard the gunshots going off

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Speaker 4: at the church just down the road from his house

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Speaker 4: and grabbed his rifle and chased the sucker down, finally

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Speaker 4: apprehending neutralizing the threat. Because he had the right to

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Speaker 4: own and bear firearms in Texas. He's become a spokesperson

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Speaker 4: for the gun owners of America and he's a great

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Speaker 4: guy to talk to. It the shame he didn't answer

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Speaker 4: his phone this morning, but I was going to talk

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Speaker 4: to him about HB thirty eight. And maybe you've talked

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Speaker 4: about it, maybe you know about it. If you're a

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Speaker 4: second amendments, I wouldn't call a fanatic if you believe

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Speaker 4: in the Bill of Rights and your right to own

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Speaker 4: and bear firearms and that it shall not be infringed

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Speaker 4: by the government as I do. HB thirty eight basically

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Speaker 4: refers to the Federal Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act. This is

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Speaker 4: a bill that aims to allow you with a valid

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Speaker 4: concealed carry permit from your state to carry a handgun

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Speaker 4: in other states, preempting those state laws and establishing a

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Speaker 4: national standard. The Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty five so the federal HB thirty I I know

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Speaker 4: there's HB thirty eight's in the Ohio House, and that's

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Speaker 4: totally different. This is in the House of Representatives. It

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Speaker 4: creates a national standard for concealed carry, allowing eligible permit

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Speaker 4: holders from one state to carry in others. That concealed carry,

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Speaker 4: requires permit holders to carry an ID, be federally eligible

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Speaker 4: to possess firearms, and allows for property owners to still

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Speaker 4: prohibit guns if they so desire. It was introduced just

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Speaker 4: a couple of months ago, placed on a Union calendar.

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Speaker 4: But will they have the courage, the Cahunas to literally

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Speaker 4: stand by their guns and fire away at this when

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Speaker 4: they can't even fully fund the federal government. By the way,

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Speaker 4: that is coming up again after we live through the

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Speaker 4: shutdown that the Democrats were in charge of. So they're

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Speaker 4: arguing over the Obamacare tax subsidies again and the subsidized

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Speaker 4: healthcare for about seven percent of the country. It's about

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Speaker 4: twenty four million people that are on the Obamacare lists

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Speaker 4: the exchanges, and you know, healthcare premiums are going to

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Speaker 4: be skyrocketing here primarily because of Obamacare and the bailout

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Speaker 4: of the insurance companies. I always hear the Republicans talking

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Speaker 4: about a plan that they have. The Democrats' plan is

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Speaker 4: just to continue the subsidies for another full year, kick

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Speaker 4: the can down the road again, hoping that that somehow,

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Speaker 4: someway they will find a way to make this kind

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Speaker 4: of fraud permanent. And there is absolute, abject fraud. All

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Speaker 4: you got to look is the fraud Minnesota Medicare and

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Speaker 4: Medicaid subsidies just one piece of that over one billion

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Speaker 4: dollars that went to Somali terrorists courtesy of the government

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Speaker 4: of Minnesota. But it's happening nationwide. And if these Obamacare

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Speaker 4: the way they are now, if they're allowed to extend

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Speaker 4: for another year, the Democrats don't have a plan to

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Speaker 4: address the fraud that is rife with any government obese

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Speaker 4: government program, and any subsidies that they're paying from one

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Speaker 4: pocket out of one pocket to another pocket, to another

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Speaker 4: person's pocket. But do the Republicans have a plan. We've

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Speaker 4: heard of the healthcare accounts that people can start with

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Speaker 4: and just giving people money directly instead of to the

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Speaker 4: insurance companies, but nothing that says, Okay, we've got a

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Speaker 4: plan to make affordable health care a reality. For a

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Speaker 4: majority of Americans not seen it yet they say they do,

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Speaker 4: but then where's the proof? So neither side's a winner

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Speaker 4: here is if you're looking at political parties and the

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Speaker 4: healthcare debate. But the Democrats will introduce keeping things the same,

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Speaker 4: keeping the fraud and the the same as it's been

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Speaker 4: through the continuance of the Obamaare Obamacare subsidies the Unaffordable

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Speaker 4: Careless Act as I like to call it at the time,

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Speaker 4: and still do or will the Republicans actually come up

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Speaker 4: with something with the President's help to bring costs down?

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Speaker 4: Yet to be determined. Coming upon six thirty seven fifty

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Speaker 4: five krs DE talk station.

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Speaker 5: Your holiday to do list?

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Speaker 3: Can you launch?

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Speaker 4: Well? Well, well, how are you doing this morning?

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Speaker 1: Me?

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Speaker 4: I'm a little concerned, and I'm concerned for myself because

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Speaker 4: the last I don't know, three four days have been

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Speaker 4: especially concerning for me because I can't seem to keep

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Speaker 4: track of my phone. Now, there have been plenty of

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Speaker 4: times that if I had my choice, I would just

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Speaker 4: leave my phone at home and not take it with

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Speaker 4: me and be tethered to the outside world every waking moment.

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Speaker 4: That would be a dream. Because of work, my emails

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Speaker 4: on my phone. My contacts are on my phone. I

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Speaker 4: used to be able to memorize phone numbers and all

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Speaker 4: I had to do was dial it or see it

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Speaker 4: a few times, and it was burned into my brain.

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Speaker 4: But you know, as well as I do that with

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Speaker 4: the people you talk to most often, those people are

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Speaker 4: already in your phone under their names, so there's no

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Speaker 4: cause to remember numbers on your phone. Well, after the

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Speaker 4: last three or four days, I'm seriously thinking about create

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Speaker 4: wading a hard copy on paper with all of the

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Speaker 4: numbers of the people that are important to me work

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Speaker 4: wise or personally. Friday, I got up in the morning

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Speaker 4: before my other job, and I do work a couple

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Speaker 4: of jobs. Really getting too old for this kind of thing.

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Speaker 4: And here's an illustration of how I'm getting too old

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Speaker 4: for this kind of thing. Got up Friday morning, early

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Speaker 4: early for me on a day that I don't have

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Speaker 4: to be up on the radio at six o'clock in

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Speaker 4: the morning or whatever. Early for me is like eight o'clock.

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Speaker 4: I got up at eight o'clock, have to work at

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Speaker 4: ten thirty eleven, have time to go to the store.

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Speaker 4: Needed to go to the grocery store, so I went

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Speaker 4: to pick up a few items set up for the weekend,

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Speaker 4: and I had my phone with me, and in the

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Speaker 4: middle of the store, I pulled my phone out because

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Speaker 4: I wanted to check a recipe, and I was pulled

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Speaker 4: off to the side. I'm not one of those annoying

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Speaker 4: people that are in the middle of the aisle on

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Speaker 4: their phone and not paying attention and in everybody's way.

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Speaker 4: I made sure that I pulled off to the side

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Speaker 4: because I saw something that I wanted to purchase. I

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Speaker 4: wanted to make sure that if I purchased this item

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Speaker 4: happened to be beef short ribs, that I had a

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Speaker 4: recipe that I could because I'd never really cooked beef

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Speaker 4: short ribs before. So I'm checking the recipe for b OH.

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Speaker 4: I like this one uses guinness to help raise the

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Speaker 4: short ribs, very nice, and the myriad of other ingredients. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: I look at the recipe, I pick up the short

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Speaker 4: ribs who are on sale, put them in the cart,

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Speaker 4: and put my phone at the top of the shopping cart.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's kind of a little there's a little desk

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Speaker 4: kind of there where you push the cart right below

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Speaker 4: that perfect size, perfect size for an iPhone. It there

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Speaker 4: went through the checkout, all my groceries, got to my car,

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Speaker 4: and I I had to have left my phone there

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Speaker 4: in the cart, in the rack outside of Kroger. I

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Speaker 4: get home, I can't find my phone. I'm running through

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Speaker 4: the house screaming like a madman because I know that

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Speaker 4: I don't have my phone and I must have left

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Speaker 4: it in the cart at Kroger. I immediately drove back.

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Speaker 4: This is this by By this time, it's like nine thirty,

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Speaker 4: so I'm running out of time before I be at work.

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Speaker 4: Get to the Kroger. Now nobody turned in a phone

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Speaker 4: went to the customer service desk. So I went back home,

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Speaker 4: and this time I'm really panicked. I mean, my whole

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Speaker 4: life is in this phone. It's ridiculous. You may relate

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Speaker 4: to this. So ten fifteen, I've still got time to

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Speaker 4: go buy the Kroger and just see if they've turned

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Speaker 4: in a phone. I get into the parking lot near

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Speaker 4: where I was parked before. I see one of the

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Speaker 4: cart jockeys, one of the kindly people who bring the

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Speaker 4: carts back inside the store for the next customer to use.

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Speaker 4: I said, you didn't happen to find an iPhone, did you?

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Speaker 4: He said, what color was the case? Instantly the light bulb,

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Speaker 4: He's got my phone. He had my phone, I said, blue.

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Speaker 4: Otter box kind of tore up on the end, he said,

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Speaker 4: I just turned it into the customer service desk. Yes,

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Speaker 4: thank god, my day was saved. I found my phone

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Speaker 4: that I just casually left in the shopping car. You

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Speaker 4: may have done this before next day. I have to

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Speaker 4: be at work on the radio on Saturday morning. I

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Speaker 4: thought I left my phone at home and I needed

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Speaker 4: it for a few key things while I was on

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Speaker 4: the air. Didn't have my phone. Went out, looked in

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Speaker 4: my car, no phone calling my wife? Is my phone there?

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Speaker 4: She can't find the phone at home. Went back down,

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Speaker 4: and I'd forgotten that i'd put it in the seat,

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Speaker 4: didn't have the case on it, so I couldn't easily

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Speaker 4: recognize that a phone was underneath an envelope in the

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Speaker 4: passenger seat of the car. So two days in a row,

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Speaker 4: this is why I'm concerned. Two days in a row,

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Speaker 4: I have just kind of forgotten where I laid my

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Speaker 4: phone down. And it's this kind of stuff is happening

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Speaker 4: more and more often. Should I be concerned? That's my

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Speaker 4: question to you. If you listen to that whole diatribe.

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Speaker 4: Should you be concerned? Probably a better question, Gary Jeffan

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Speaker 4: for Brian Thomas this morning on fifty five KOC, the

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Speaker 4: talk station. AH. It's the holiday season now disarmed the population,

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Speaker 4: so it was easy for the Jihatas to take over

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Speaker 4: cities like London and the woke mayor. While it has

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Speaker 4: subsided under President Trump's second term through the power of

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Speaker 4: the American people rejecting it, for the most part, woke

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Speaker 4: is still running amok in the UK. It's talking about

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Speaker 4: our Second Amendment rights that we enjoy in this country. Well,

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Speaker 4: they're challenged and threatened and still are in many states

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Speaker 4: and many jurisdictions. But overall, we have the right to

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Speaker 4: own and bear firearms in this country, the country we

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Speaker 4: broke away from in a bloody revolutionary war. However, trying

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Speaker 4: to maintain they're under our thumb mentality on the citizenry

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Speaker 4: of Great Britain. You may have seen this story. A

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Speaker 4: British IT consultant faced arrest and multiple charges when he

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Speaker 4: got back home. He was on holiday, as the Brits

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Speaker 4: say in America, in Florida, and because he online posted

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Speaker 4: a picture of him obviously at a gun range. She's

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Speaker 4: got the noise canceling headphones on in the picture holding

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Speaker 4: and firing a rifle. Police when he got back to

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Speaker 4: Great Britain, because he made this post online, seized all

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Speaker 4: his devices, sparking debate on UK social media policy at

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Speaker 4: public order laws. They can arrest you in Great Britain

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Speaker 4: if you post a meme making fun of a politician,

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Speaker 4: or a meme making fun or not exercising what in

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Speaker 4: their minds is a popular opinion on transgenderism, on the

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Speaker 4: fact that there are only two sexes, which is scientifically true,

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Speaker 4: psychologically true too. No matter what you think, you may

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Speaker 4: have a mental defect. But anyway, in Great Britain, it

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Speaker 4: was just a story that did not enrage me like

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Speaker 4: enraged Elon Musk at the time. And by the way,

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Speaker 4: the charges were finally dropped due to lack of evidence

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Speaker 4: against this guy. Good for him, but he wasn't even

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Speaker 4: in England. He was in America, where we enjoy freedom

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Speaker 4: and liberty, the reason we fought a seven and a

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Speaker 4: half year war to break away from the monarchy and

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Speaker 4: the authoritarian government of Great Britain. But anyway, the charges

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Speaker 4: dropped against John Richelieu booth and that's a good thing.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, this is the kind of place that

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Speaker 4: Rosie O'Donnell and until they decided that the winners were

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Speaker 4: too cold. Ellen DeGeneres and her partner Portia moved there

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Speaker 4: because they couldn't stand the fact that we had a

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Speaker 4: king now in Donald Trump. And they'd probably be all

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Speaker 4: in favor of this guy getting busted for posting a

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Speaker 4: picture online of him shooting a gun where it's perfectly

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Speaker 4: legal and safe for him to do it. Amazing stuff.

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Speaker 4: Ken Coober from the Cincinnati FOP the pres we'll talk

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Speaker 4: about Cincinnati's eight point one million dollar settlement to George

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Speaker 4: Floyd protesters and further inhibiting the police's ability to do

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Speaker 4: their job and keep the public safe. That's all coming

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Gary, Jeffin for Bran on fifty five krs

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Speaker 4: Yay, remembering John Lennon on the forty fifth anniversary of

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Speaker 4: There's Johnny seven oh six, Gary Jeff Walker in for

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Speaker 4: Brian Thomas this morning on fifty five KRS the talk station.

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Speaker 4: Joining us in this segment is President of the Cincinnati

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Speaker 4: Fraternal Order of Police Ken Kober, to talk about the

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Speaker 4: City of Cincinnati's eight point one million dollars of the

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Speaker 4: George Floyd protesters. You remember all the fun we had

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Speaker 4: back in twenty twenty and Cincinnati, same fun they were

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Speaker 4: having around the country with people I don't doing really

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Speaker 4: really constitutionally protected things like blocking commerce in I seventy five,

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Speaker 4: or blocking someone's path to work, or breaking windows, property damage,

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Speaker 4: resisting arrest, Yeah, throwing urine bottles at the police, the

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Speaker 4: whole PLM shakedown, which is what it proved to be.

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Speaker 4: And the shaking is not done. They're still shaking them down,

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Speaker 4: and the courts you're saying, and the City of Cincinnati

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Speaker 4: is saying, hey, we enjoy giving away taxpayer money to

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Speaker 4: criminals and also changing the way police can handle protests

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Speaker 4: in the city of Cincinnati. To talk about all that again,

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati FOP President Ken Kober joins us. Good morning, Ken,

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Speaker 4: how are we doing and are you looking forward to

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Speaker 4: the rubber stamp that the city will give tomorrow to

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Speaker 4: the people that broke the law in twenty twenty during

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Speaker 4: the summer of.

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Speaker 13: Eight Hey, good morning, thanks for having me. First of all,

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Speaker 13: that was not a protest. I was out there on

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Speaker 13: the front lines having rocks and bottlestone out us.

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Speaker 14: Those were riots. They could call them whatever they want.

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Speaker 14: That was an absolutely that.

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Speaker 4: Was a riot. Yeah, no question. And I do remember

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Speaker 4: famously of the protesters marching out on I seventy five

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Speaker 4: and blocking the interstate.

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Speaker 13: You know, it's one of these things that it just

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Speaker 13: shows that a crime does pay in Cincinnati, and this

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Speaker 13: was a perfect example of that.

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Speaker 9: But this was an epic failure by the law department.

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Speaker 13: You know, anytime we have something like this occur where

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Speaker 13: there's going to be mass arrests, the law departments involved.

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Speaker 13: They're the ones that advise the police department what we're

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Speaker 13: going to charge these people with. Unfortunately, some of the

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Speaker 13: ordinances that they had on the books were absolutely antiquated,

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Speaker 13: which is why now we have a problem with.

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Speaker 9: Even prosecuting these people. So what do they do.

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Speaker 13: They dismissed the charges and then what follows it, of course,

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Speaker 13: a lawsuit, and that's where we're at.

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Speaker 9: Unfortunately.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But any anyway, the rumor is, and I don't

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Speaker 4: know what you know about this, Ken, the rumor is

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Speaker 4: that they've been they've been certain they were going to

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Speaker 4: do this. City council has been certain they're going to

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Speaker 4: do this, and we're before the election, but they never

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Speaker 4: brought that up until they made sure their butts were

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Speaker 4: safe in the seats and the voter didn't know about

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Speaker 4: it until now. Is that a true assessment?

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Speaker 14: Sure?

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Speaker 9: This has been going on for a year and a half.

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Speaker 13: I know originally I sat in a meeting with the

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Speaker 13: Solicitors Office, the police chief, a bunch of city officials.

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Speaker 13: This would have been last ball August September last year.

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Speaker 9: So yeah, this is this has been going on. We

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Speaker 9: know it's been.

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Speaker 13: Going on, and it's just it's one of these things where,

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Speaker 13: you know, do I think it was a smart financial decision? Now, yeah,

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Speaker 13: it actually was because the city had a lot more

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Speaker 13: to lose. However, where the failure started was in twenty

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Speaker 13: twenty when they're they're absolutely tell the police to charge

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Speaker 13: these people.

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Speaker 9: With wrong crimes. But like I said, in these.

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Speaker 13: Situations, the police go out there, you know, and Mayor Cranley,

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Speaker 13: I'll give him all the credit in the world.

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Speaker 9: He told the police department, make sure the city.

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Speaker 13: Doesn't burn down. It's exactly what these men and women did.

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Speaker 13: It went out, made sure that the city was safe.

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Speaker 13: That you know, property was protected, life was protected. But

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Speaker 13: you know, the failure, of course was from city Hall,

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Speaker 13: which isn't a surprise to many.

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Speaker 4: Well, and I remember at the time thinking to myself,

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Speaker 4: with the riots that were going on in Cincinnati, I said, boy,

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Speaker 4: at least we're not like Seattle. At least we're not

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Speaker 4: like Portland. And I think that John Cranley and the

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Speaker 4: police did a fantastic job of keeping Cincinnati from as

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Speaker 4: you say, burning, And well, there was obviously violence and

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Speaker 4: breaking of laws. Maybe they were charged with the wrong laws.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Do you believe Cheryl Long when she

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Speaker 4: says that she's especially proud of our CPD officers. Does

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Speaker 4: she act like she's proud of our CPD officers on

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Speaker 4: a regular basis?

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Speaker 14: You know, that's the hard part is words are one thing,

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Speaker 14: actions or another.

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Speaker 13: And this has always been my criticism as they will

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Speaker 13: stand in front of the camera and say how much

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Speaker 13: they support the police, but then you see things.

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Speaker 9: Like this happen.

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Speaker 13: And not all of this is on the current administration

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Speaker 13: because it was a different administration back then, but the

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Speaker 13: message is still clearer. Crime does pay in Cincinnati. And

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Speaker 13: what I fear is the next time some nonsense like

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Speaker 13: this happens, it's going to further embolden people to do

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Speaker 13: even more violent things. But you're gonna put cops in

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Speaker 13: even more danger, and then what's the end result. They're

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Speaker 13: gonna fumble again, and before you know it, we're going

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Speaker 13: to be.

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Speaker 9: Paying out more criminals for this.

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Speaker 13: I'll be honest, if I would have known, if I'd

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Speaker 13: have had the hindsight to see in twenty twenty that

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Speaker 13: they were going to be paying these people on average

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Speaker 13: of thirteen thousand dollars a person to go and get

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Speaker 13: arrested and sit in a jail for three or four hours,

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Speaker 13: I'd have had my wife and kids go down there,

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Speaker 13: no doubt.

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Speaker 9: I mean, that's I mean, it was ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's twelve I figured it out earlier. It's four

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Speaker 4: hundred and seventy nine Playton plaintiffs six point what one

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Speaker 4: million goes to the plaintiffs, two million goes to the lawyers, which,

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Speaker 4: as we know, that's that racket continues to rack it.

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Speaker 4: You know, maybe you should teach your kids to go

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Speaker 4: to law school, Ken because they're going to get a

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Speaker 4: lot more than the planeiffs. But yeah, twelve seven hundred

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Speaker 4: something a person for a few hours of work and

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Speaker 4: not honest work at that.

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Speaker 13: The one thing I will say though, and I was

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Speaker 13: sitting at that sally port with a couple one hundred

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Speaker 13: people waiting for these prisoners to be processed, and the.

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Speaker 9: One thing stands true.

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Speaker 13: As these people started talking about Cincinnati, and they're like, listen,

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Speaker 13: as soon as we get out of jail, we're leaving here.

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Speaker 13: We're gonna go to Columbus, We're gonna go to Indianapolis.

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Speaker 13: They're not arresting people in those cities. So by the

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Speaker 13: end of the day, say what you want about what occurred,

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Speaker 13: the one thing that is absolutely true is the police

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Speaker 13: department kept this place from burning down. Oh yeah, And

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Speaker 13: I'm sure that these people would have done more than

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Speaker 13: eight million dollars worth of damage. So while it is this,

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Speaker 13: it's disappointing, it's disgusting that they're paying these people. The

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Speaker 13: city had a lot more to lose than eight million dollars.

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Speaker 13: If the police department would not have been there on

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Speaker 13: the front line is doing exactly what they did.

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Speaker 4: As part of this settlement, there's a guidebook created or

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Speaker 4: going to be created, which in quote standardizes and formalizes

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Speaker 4: police operations during protests. What what do you think of

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Speaker 4: this guide book? And one of the attorneys in the case,

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Speaker 4: Jacqueline Green, said the policy changes will benefit everyone, including

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Speaker 4: police officers, who now have clear guidance on how to

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Speaker 4: engage with large groups of people and and what does

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Speaker 4: those what are those guidelines entail? One of the ways

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Speaker 4: to uh engage with large groups of people is to

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Speaker 4: let them burn the city. I mean if that we've

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Speaker 4: gone to from arresting them, maybe on the wrong charges,

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Speaker 4: to just letting them do whatever they want.

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Speaker 14: Well, let me tell you about this these policy changes.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I would like to know what they are, because

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Speaker 13: I could tell you right now there are none. The

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Speaker 13: Cincinnati Police Department, our Civil Disturbance Response Team is one

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Speaker 13: of the best in the country. They deal with these

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Speaker 13: people that come out and protest nearly every week during

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Speaker 13: the summertime. They do a fantastic job and very very

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Speaker 13: seldom do they ever have any issues. Now this guidebook,

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Speaker 13: all they're doing is taking what they were already doing

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Speaker 13: and putting it at a centralized location. One of the

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Speaker 13: things that I did think it was interesting that this

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Speaker 13: ambulance chasing attorney brought up was that in the.

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Speaker 14: Future, the police department should notify the jail in case

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Speaker 14: of mass arrest.

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Speaker 9: I already have that procedure.

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Speaker 13: But what I think is important is we would love

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Speaker 13: to if these people say, hey, listen, we're going to

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Speaker 13: come here this weekend. We're going to try to burn

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Speaker 13: your city down. If you give us advance notice, we'll

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Speaker 13: be happy to give the jail advanced notice that we're

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Speaker 13: going to be bringing in two or three hundred people

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Speaker 13: that are trying to create destruction. So if they want

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Speaker 13: to give us advanced notice, we'll be happy to let

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Speaker 13: the jail know. I mean, it's just that is one

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Speaker 13: of the most ridiculous things that I've or.

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Speaker 9: We need this change. We need to let.

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Speaker 13: Us know that you're going to arrest a bunch of people.

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Speaker 13: I mean, we had no idea that they were going

1051
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Speaker 13: to come and try to burn our city down, but

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Speaker 13: we took care of it when the time came.

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Speaker 4: It is the problem, uh, the people that were just

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Speaker 4: reelected is the problem the city attorney or the city

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Speaker 4: manager is where's the problem lie in your in your opinion.

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Speaker 13: Well, this all came from the law department, and they

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Speaker 13: said these were decisions that were made in twenty twenty

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Speaker 13: and now we're facing the consequences of poor decisions that

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Speaker 13: were made by our law department. That's what this all

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Speaker 13: comes down to. It's not about our policies and procedures.

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Speaker 13: Because they went out, they said it was other than

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Speaker 13: the first two nights, it got squashed pretty quick and

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Speaker 13: the rest of it was just people who refused to

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Speaker 13: go home. Yeah, they enacted a curfew. You know, you

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Speaker 13: had some bad actors during the day. If you saw

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Speaker 13: what went on, people were protesting, the police stood there,

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Speaker 13: they allowed them to protest, and it was primarily peaceful

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Speaker 13: during the day. The problem is as soon as it

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Speaker 13: got to be nighttime, then all the bad actors came

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Speaker 13: out and they're all the ones that went to jail.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: Well, I don't have a problem with any of that.

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Speaker 4: You know, there are people who are just exhibiting and

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Speaker 4: their rights to redress grievances with the government whatever things

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Speaker 4: that the constitution guarantees ken and then there are the

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Speaker 4: people that are criminals who commit crime for the sake

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01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 4: they they're opportunists, and they're parasites on society, and they

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Speaker 4: should be put in their place, which is usually jail

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Speaker 4: at times like this. Keep up the good fight, man.

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Speaker 4: It's good to talk to you this morning. Thanks for yours.

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Speaker 9: Likewise, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: You got it. Seven seventeen at fifty five KRC. The

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01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 4: talk station Prestige Interiors has been proving the Way Family,

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01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 4: the FOP president on the city's eight point one million

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01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:04,600
Speaker 4: dollars settlement with protesters twenty twenty and new police guidelines.

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01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 4: And I asked can Kober where he laid the blame

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Speaker 4: for all of this, and he said, the law department

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01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 4: of the City of Cincinnati. Well, a guy was a

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Speaker 4: vice vice mayor at the time during the John Cranley

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01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 4: administration and had a lot to do with law and

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01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 4: public safety. Is with us on the phone to respond

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01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,880
Speaker 4: to that and to talk about the city settlement and

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01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 4: why it is hurtful going forward for the citizens of

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01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 4: Cincinnati if he believes it is. Chris Smitherman, good morning,

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01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 4: How are you, my friend?

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Speaker 2: Good morning, my friend, how are you doing.

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01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 4: I'm good. It's good to talk to. It's been quite

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01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 4: a while.

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Speaker 2: It has been as nice to hear your voice, and

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01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 2: I've been listening to your show. You know, I want

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01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 2: to start off with just say Merry Christmas to you.

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01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:57,600
Speaker 2: Thank you, and you know, I get a lot of

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01:21:57,760 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 2: I get a lot of happy Holidays, and I never

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01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 2: thought I would live to see that even saying Merry

1105
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 2: Christmas was controversial at any level.

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01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 4: Listen, I will, I will. I want to stop you

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01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 4: right there, Chris, because and you're right, I say Merry

1108
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:17,600
Speaker 4: Christmas all the time, but if you say happy holidays,

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01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 4: Christmas is a holy day and that's where the word

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01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 4: holidays comes from. So what I say if somebody tells

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01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 4: me happy Holidays and instead of Merry Christmas, I say back,

1112
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 4: happy Holy Days because it is a holy day. So

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01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,600
Speaker 4: that's the way. That's the way I get around that.

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01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:40,679
Speaker 2: You know, Well, that's okay, you know that, and that's

1115
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 2: that's awesome. I just you know, from my point to you,

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01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 2: I think wishing you a merry Christmas, and wishing anybody

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01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 2: that I'm talking to a merry Christmas, no matter where

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01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:55,600
Speaker 2: they are, whether they're agnostic or atheist or even another religion.

1119
01:22:55,720 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 2: Because this is my faith, and I'm pronouncing that, you know,

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Speaker 2: people will say, people will say Happy Hanukah to me,

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01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 2: you know, and I'm not Jewish. So the reality is

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01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 2: I don't have a problem wishing anybody Merry Christmas and

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01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 2: I and I just know that this was one of

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01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 2: those small undermining steps because I've been listening to your

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01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 2: show and I really appreciated the caller who called it

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01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 2: and said, hey, the way to heaven is just accept

1127
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ as your personal savior. Period. I agree. But

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Speaker 2: it's these small steps that are happening in our country,

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01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 2: like no prayer in the school, you know, taking God

1130
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:41,560
Speaker 2: out of the anthem, you know, things like merry Christmas.

1131
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 2: And this is bad to say because these are things

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01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 2: that are being taught to our children. That's saying Merry

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01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 2: Christmas is not being respectful. It's not the politically correct

1134
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 2: thing to do. So all I'm pushing back on, you know,

1135
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:57,879
Speaker 2: at my tender age is just to say Merry Christmas

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01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 2: to you, and Merry Christmas to anybody who is listening.

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01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 2: And I am very fine with anybody saying Merry Christmas

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01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 2: to me.

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01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, me too. Praise the Lord, Merry Christmas, and

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01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, if God is an underdog in

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01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 4: this society, my money's on God. I'll tell you that

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01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 4: right now. So don't don't act like don't act like

1143
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 4: God's not gonna win, because he always will. And in

1144
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 4: this battle too.

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01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 2: He always he always wins. And that's why it's so

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01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:41,480
Speaker 2: important for believers to speak up and say Mary Christmas,

1147
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 2: because when we get to those pearly gates, whatever they

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01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 2: look like. I want to be one of those people

1149
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 2: that said I made sure that I praised you, that

1150
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 2: I didn't water down your birthday. And I was able

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01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 2: to look somebody in the eye who was a non believer,

1152
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 2: someone who was a believer, somebody who was in a

1153
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 2: different religion, whatever it was, and I was able to say,

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01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 2: and I would say Easter and Christmas. There are arguments

1155
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:11,600
Speaker 2: of which one is most important, him rising from the

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01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 2: dead on the third day or his birthday. But at

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01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,720
Speaker 2: the end of the day, I wanted to start our program,

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01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 2: and this spleens it by making it very clear, Merry Christmas,

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01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 2: Gary jeff Man, and I don't even have to say

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01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 2: Happy New Year, but Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 4: No, Merry Christmas is enough. Oh Come Emmanuel, which means

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01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:36,040
Speaker 4: God with us, and that's the point. Hey Christmas, Chris Smiderman,

1163
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 4: We'll take a break and come back and we'll we'll

1164
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 4: get into some real spleen vent material when we return.

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01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 4: On fifty five kr CV talk station, A Minute of

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01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 4: Hope is brought to you by the lender Center of

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01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:55,680
Speaker 4: Hope talking to Chris Smitherman, a Monday spleen ventch is

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01:25:55,760 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 4: in order seven to twenty eight. Well, Chris, I I

1169
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,480
Speaker 4: love to say this. The floor is yours.

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Speaker 5: This morning.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you. Brother. Let me say that the

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01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 2: eight point one million dollar settlement. I think it's important

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01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 2: for the President of the FOP, for the police Department

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01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 2: and your listening audience to focus in on the word settlement,

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01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 2: meaning the city didn't have to settle Gary Jeff. We

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01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:27,639
Speaker 2: could have gone to trial. If I were the mayor,

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Speaker 2: I would have gone the trial and allowed a jury

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01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 2: of the city's peers to determine whether those who had

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01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 2: broken windows, thrown yurin on police officers, those who broke

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01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:41,600
Speaker 2: the law, someone who shot a police officer in the

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01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 2: head we had a ballistic helmet on, who would be

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01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 2: dead if they did not have a ballistic helmet on

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01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 2: that I would have taken this to trial. And so

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01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 2: this was a mayor who doesn't have a spleen. This

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01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 2: guy did not stand up because he's playing politics with

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01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 2: all of us. He's looking to his next election. He

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01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 2: didn't want to send the message to those who were

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01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:08,640
Speaker 2: protesting as a part of his base. I'm going to

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01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 2: take you to trial, put you on the stand, and

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Speaker 2: ask you what you did. So remember this is called

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01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 2: a settlement. The mayor, nor the manager, nor the city

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01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 2: solicitor had to settle anything. You are very correct that

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01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 2: the mayor hit the football like Charlie Brown. He was

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01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 2: hiding the dog on football from us during this election.

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01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 2: They knew that they had already come to the determination

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01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:40,719
Speaker 2: of a settlement and not going to trial to focus

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01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 2: on that. It doesn't matter. They should have allowed a

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01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 2: jury of their peers, a jury of the city's peers

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01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 2: in southwest Ohio, to determine whether the riots that were

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01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 2: happening in downtown were legal or not. But what we

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01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 2: do is we've got all these conversations, so we don't

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01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 2: want to do proactive policing. We're not talking about peaceful protest.

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01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 2: We're talking about people who did things that caused our

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01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 2: officers to arrest them, and they absolutely are being rewarded, period.

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01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 2: But this is about a settlement. You know. This is

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01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 2: like you know, if people get this, like everyday people

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01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 2: understand this. It's like the mayor waking up in his

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01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 2: car is repolled twice once at least in front of

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01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 2: city Hall. This is a guy that doesn't even know

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01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 2: how to manage his own checkbook, let alone the billion

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01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 2: dollar checkbook of the City of Cincinnati. So I'm not

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01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 2: surprised that he would say I'm not worried about it

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01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 2: because we'll just issue some judgment bonds, kick twelve thousand

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01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 2: dollars to each person, wish them, I don't know, happy holiday,

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01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 2: and keep it moving. But that's what's wrong with city Hall.

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01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 2: And everybody down in city Hall is on the same team.

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01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 2: They will all coach sign on it. There will be

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01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 2: no descent on the settlement, meaning a member of council

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01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 2: could right descent. I did many descent when I was

1220
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 2: a council They the mayor can't stop the descent. He

1221
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 2: has to put the descent in and attach it.

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01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 10: To the vote.

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Speaker 2: You won't have anybody on this council the dissent on

1224
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 2: settling the case. Absolutely, a member of councilors can say

1225
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 2: this is the wrong decision for the taxpayers. We should

1226
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 2: have gone the trial. But that's the problem. I agree

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01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 2: with with with the with the president of the FOP

1228
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 2: that this lies in the heart of our city solicitor's office.

1229
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 2: But who's telling the city solicitor to settle the case.

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01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,440
Speaker 2: It's the mayor, it's the guy whose car was repolled.

1231
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 2: By the way, every elected official, including me, has to

1232
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 2: file a financial report to the State of Ohio. Everybody

1233
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 2: should be calling in or writing in to to Columbus,

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01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 2: to the Ethics Commission, asking did this mayor disclose he

1235
01:29:56,360 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 2: had any impairments, any judgments against him when he file

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01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 2: those reports over the last two years, because he should

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01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 2: have disclosed them to the State of Ohio. Now they're

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01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 2: not going to do a big thing about it. They're

1239
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 2: not going to be it's not going to be a bit.

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01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:12,840
Speaker 2: But the bottom line is that these are the kinds

1241
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 2: of things that should be on the report, Gary Jeff,

1242
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:18,599
Speaker 2: because it tells you that our mayor is impaired, Meaning

1243
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 2: a mayor that is facing financial issues can be bribed,

1244
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:26,680
Speaker 2: He can jeopardize votes, he could move things in directions

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01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 2: in order for him to make get contributions to his

1246
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 2: campaign or bribery, which by the way, City Hall has experienced.

1247
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 2: So you want to know that your mayor, that members

1248
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:42,520
Speaker 2: of council don't have judgments against them, they're not impaired,

1249
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 2: because that means every developer, anybody in the in the

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01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:49,000
Speaker 2: city who's doing business with the City of Cincinnati knows

1251
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 2: that this mayor can't pay his own personal bills. That's

1252
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 2: why you're supposed to disclose it to the state of Ohio.

1253
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 2: So yes, I can talk about the eight point one million,

1254
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 2: is about the settlement. It's at outrageous. I can say

1255
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 2: that John Cranley did an excellent job in keeping our

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01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 2: city safe during that period of time. And I can

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01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:11,720
Speaker 2: also say that John Cranley never had financial issues. He

1258
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:14,879
Speaker 2: always focused on trying to come with a balance budget.

1259
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:18,120
Speaker 2: And this mayor continues to fail us. And by the way,

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01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 2: in closing on this segment, we should have known about

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01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 2: those repossessions. We should have known that his cars were

1262
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 2: being reposd prior to the election. We should have known

1263
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:31,880
Speaker 2: about this settlement prior to the elections. But guess what

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01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:36,680
Speaker 2: voters elections have consequences.

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01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 4: Malfeasansa is no stranger, and we can keep going for

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01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 4: a few more minutes. Chris Joe tells me, we've got

1267
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:44,559
Speaker 4: the green light for more time, if you've got more time.

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01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 4: But malfeasans is no new thing in the City of Cincinnati.

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01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:56,080
Speaker 4: You know, by AFTEP pure vall standard, Liz Rogers could

1270
01:31:56,120 --> 01:32:00,880
Speaker 4: be mayor. I mean after she after she had two bankruptcies,

1271
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 4: and they gave her a restaurant at the banks.

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01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 2: So that the matter of fact, look, that was one

1273
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 2: of those deals that I voted know on, I got

1274
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 2: a lot of pushback by some African American voters in

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01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 2: the City of Cincinnati. But ultimately, let me make it clear,

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01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 2: the city, No, the city didn't get their money back,

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01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 2: which is what we were told. So that's number one,

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01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:31,719
Speaker 2: and there's no one on council that will ever ask

1279
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 2: about it. Period number two that the city didn't shut

1280
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 2: her down, Gary Jeff It was the state of Ohio.

1281
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:43,600
Speaker 2: It was the same issue that she was experiencing in Hamilton,

1282
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:47,519
Speaker 2: which is taking your sales tax, not surrendering it to

1283
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:50,600
Speaker 2: the state, and then using that to cash flow the

1284
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 2: operation of the business. So ultimately they said, hey, when

1285
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 2: you collect the sales tax, turn it into us. She

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01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:01,680
Speaker 2: wasn't doing that. They came downtown and put notices on

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Speaker 2: her doors and change on her door. So to the public,

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Speaker 2: people were saying, oh man, the city councils shut her

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Speaker 2: down the city. That's not what happened. That state of

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Speaker 2: Ohio shut that business down for failure to turn over

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Speaker 2: her sales tax to them. That's it. It's not complicated.

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Speaker 2: This was a person who obviously had trouble running a business.

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Speaker 2: You're right, that's another example, and we can give many

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Speaker 2: examples over the years of the city hall trying to

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Speaker 2: pick winners and losers. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: it's rare to have a sitting mayor have their cars

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Speaker 2: reposed and at the same time do a settlement of

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Speaker 2: eight point one million dollars and tell the citizens that

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Speaker 2: was our only choice. It wasn't we could have gone

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Speaker 2: to trial. It is exactly what we should have done.

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Speaker 4: One point seven million Americans have their cars repossessed on

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Speaker 4: any regular basis every year in this country. Chris. But

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Speaker 4: my question is, and there are so many reasons why

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Speaker 4: that you know that this could be possible, why this

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Speaker 4: could happen, What is Mayor Purevoll's salary as mayor, it's it's.

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Speaker 2: Pretty I have a guessing around one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: five thousand a year. It's probably meant in about eight

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Speaker 2: eight or eight or eighty five hundred dollars every single month, right,

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Speaker 2: something that most citizens will never see in their lifetime.

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Speaker 4: Right. And I guess the navigator maybe it was costing

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Speaker 4: him about five or six hundred a month max. I

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Speaker 4: understand if somebody has a medical emergency or there's some

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01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:38,839
Speaker 4: issue that just occurs out of the blue. But because

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Speaker 4: you are careless and mess up an auto pay for

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Speaker 4: one month, the repo company, the finance company doesn't come

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Speaker 4: and take your car away. This happened, This had to

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Speaker 4: happen over at least a three month period. It's usually

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Speaker 4: ninety days, and they will make every attempt to contact

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Speaker 4: you in the interim to tell you were interrears with

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Speaker 4: your car payment. So he was notified, he knew about it.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't carelessness. He just didn't pay for three months, right, So.

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Speaker 15: They at least three months, at least three months, because

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Speaker 15: it could have been four or five months, and they

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Speaker 15: knew that was the mayor, right, So you know that

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Speaker 15: they were trying to be as costs as they possibly

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Speaker 15: could be. And so you are so right, Gary Jeff.

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Speaker 15: You know, for him to do an interview and act

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Speaker 15: like this is a thirty day scenario, he obviously was

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Speaker 15: not telling the truth. Period.

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Speaker 4: I mean my period. Even my cable company even gives

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Speaker 4: me as much money as I'm paying them, and I'm

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Speaker 4: not happy about that, that's my fault. But my cable

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01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 4: company even gives me a fifteen day grace period to

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Speaker 4: pay my bill and there's no late fee.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, think about every citizen out there who's watching

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01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 2: this council raise their taxes right whatever it is, or

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Speaker 2: advocate for raising their taxes, their property taxes, city taxes, fees,

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Speaker 2: whatever they are.

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Speaker 4: A brand new fee, brand new feed just went a

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Speaker 4: new effect in certain places, from restaurants and hotels.

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Speaker 2: That's right. So as we're processing this, the everyday person,

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01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:31,160
Speaker 2: let's make it real, gets up every day, goes to work,

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Speaker 2: balances out their checkbook, lives within their budget for forty years, retires,

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01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,760
Speaker 2: then lives on some retirement and social security, and they

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01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 2: still pay their bills. They're paying for their medicine, everything,

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01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 2: and they're never having their car or their house ever repode.

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Speaker 2: This is an example of someone who doesn't know how

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01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 2: to manage their personal finances from a financial planner's perspective.

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Speaker 2: And so this is the reality is we're again the

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Speaker 2: laughing joke right of the of the state, and of

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01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:08,479
Speaker 2: the county and of the entire country, that we have

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Speaker 2: a mayor whose car is being repolled at the same

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Speaker 2: time they're advocating to raising our taxes, and they themselves

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01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 2: are voting to raise our taxes. It makes absolutely no sense.

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Speaker 2: And then there by the way, look at the settlement

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Speaker 2: to you, Gary, Jeff, look for the fire chief. He's

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01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:29,639
Speaker 2: coming up three to five million dollars for most likely

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Speaker 2: Chief Washington. Look for Chief Fiji. There's going to be

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Speaker 2: a settlement there. So when we issue judgment bonds for

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Speaker 2: eight or ten million a city officials, if you're listening

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Speaker 2: to me, you might as well pump it up to

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01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:44,919
Speaker 2: fifteen to eighteen million while you're in the bond market,

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01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:47,479
Speaker 2: because you're going to continue to pay out these kinds

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Speaker 2: of settlements based on the irresponsible decisions that are coming

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Speaker 2: from the administration.

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Speaker 4: Well, the money tree will be bare again very soon, Chris.

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Speaker 4: Maybe they can find another real road to sell.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Chris Smitherman with the Monday Spleen event this morning, good stuff,

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Speaker 4: Thank you my friend and Mary Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on. Merry Christmas to you two.

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Speaker 4: All Right, it's seven forty at fifty five KRC the

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Speaker 4: Talk Station.

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Speaker 13: From the Demented mind of Evan Ratliff comes a podcast

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Speaker 13: about King Ramont.

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Speaker 4: Fifty five KOs the Talk Station. Alright, seven forty five

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Speaker 4: if we can raise him. In the next few minutes,

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Speaker 4: we'll talk to Reverend Jim Harden from Compasscare USA, which

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Speaker 4: is one of the leading emergency pregnancy centers in the country.

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Speaker 4: And it appears as if he's calling back.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, Compasscare USA has been in the

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Speaker 4: news because it's been their locations. Their locations have been

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Speaker 4: in some cases, in one particular case, firebombed by the

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Speaker 4: peace loving people who believe that a child in the

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Speaker 4: womb is not a child and doesn't deserve respect and

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Speaker 4: dignity and protection. Reverend Harden, morning, I'm sorry for the

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Speaker 4: early hour for you. I know you're on the West coast,

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Speaker 4: and I know it's even before we had to originally

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Speaker 4: set this up, but it's so important that people know

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Speaker 4: the work that Compasscare USA is doing for the legal

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Speaker 4: rights of the unborn and for women all over this country.

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Speaker 4: And it's such a pleasure to have you with us

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Speaker 4: this morning. So thank you very much, Reverend Harden.

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Speaker 1: Oh, no, thank thank you, and may I say Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 4: Merry Christmas. We just talked about this with another guest.

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Speaker 4: We are spreading the Christmas joy of God with us,

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Speaker 4: which is what what this means, this celebration means is

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Speaker 4: that God came to earth to experience the human life

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Speaker 4: and to teach us, and then to die and a

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Speaker 4: cross for our sins so we did not have to

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Speaker 4: face God's wrath. It's an amazing story and it all

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Speaker 4: starts with Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it really is an amazing story. In fact, it's

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Speaker 1: so many I write about it a lot. In fact

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Speaker 1: I even wrote a book about why it's important. Like

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Speaker 1: Christmas itself, the event and what Emmanuel God with us

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Speaker 1: means is so it drives our understanding of the value

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Speaker 1: of humanity. I mean, think about it. Jesus is God

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Speaker 1: in the flesh. He shed his blood, which is infinitely valuable,

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Speaker 1: right because you know, God's dead in the flesh is infinite,

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Speaker 1: and he's infinitly valuable. But what did he He assigned

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Speaker 1: a value to humanity to purchase us back from death

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Speaker 1: and sin, and that value was his blood, which means

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Speaker 1: that we're infinitely valuable. And we take that truth into

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Speaker 1: every relation ship that we have and into the way

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Speaker 1: that we understand humanity and how we should react to

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Speaker 1: each other. What have policies we should create, as you know,

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Speaker 1: in terms of our government, we need to be more human,

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Speaker 1: we need to rehumanize it. The way to do that

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Speaker 1: is to understand, to embrace the truth that humanity, by

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Speaker 1: virtue of the shedlold of Christ, is infinitely valuable.

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Speaker 4: And you know what else is a kind of unique

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01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:31,960
Speaker 4: analogy or another way to look at this, I think,

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Speaker 4: Reverend Harden, is that people who believe, who don't believe

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Speaker 4: in the sanctity of human life, who you know, are

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Speaker 4: battling people like you every single day, and don't believe

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Speaker 4: that the unborn deserve respect just like just like they

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Speaker 4: do as human beings and the right to live. Are

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Speaker 4: like King Herod who found out that God was coming

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Speaker 4: to earth or that there was a gift from God

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Speaker 4: being born. So you know, he goes and he tries

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Speaker 4: to kill all the firstborn babies in all these families.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 4: I mean, do you find that that's that's a good

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Speaker 4: analogy or a good comparison to people who to people

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Speaker 4: who are you know, supporters of planned parenthood and and

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Speaker 4: abortion as opposed to what you're doing with compace scare Usa.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I think it's a perfect analogy. I mean, Herod

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Speaker 1: essentially killed children, boys two years and younger for the

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01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:45,720
Speaker 1: purpose of maintaining his power. He was afraid he was

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Speaker 1: going to lose control and power because this new born

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01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:54,440
Speaker 1: king was was prophesied and apparently had been born in Bethlehem,

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01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:56,920
Speaker 1: and so he didn't know where. So he just decided

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Speaker 1: to kill everybody, all the babies. And that's very similar

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Speaker 1: if you I mean, it's a very interesting analogy to

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Speaker 1: what abortion does today because for a politician, you know,

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Speaker 1: you look at a pro abortion politician, like a Democrat,

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Speaker 1: and you think, why are they so pro abortion. It's

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Speaker 1: not because of women's health, it's not because of access

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Speaker 1: to health care. It's not because of you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: the euphemisms they put on it, like reproductive choice or

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Speaker 1: rights or whatever. It's all about power. Can this issue

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Speaker 1: give them more power, and you've always got to be

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Speaker 1: you know, looking with you know, swinting with one eye

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Speaker 1: closed at a politician who's willing and wants to accrue

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Speaker 1: more power to him or herself, specifically absolute power. And

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Speaker 1: there is nothing more absolute in terms of power than

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Speaker 1: someone who has the ability to decide who lives and

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Speaker 1: who dies. And that's what abortion is to a politician.

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Speaker 9: Power.

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Speaker 4: What's uh, what's the latest done on your battle for

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Speaker 4: the rights of women and the rights of unborn children

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Speaker 4: that compass secure USA? What are you working on right now,

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Speaker 4: Reverend Harden?

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Speaker 1: Well, right now, we've got multiple lawsuits just to stay

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Speaker 1: open against you know, some of these pro abortion politicians

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Speaker 1: like Leticia James A. Traine, and a lot of New

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Speaker 1: York like a Kafi Hokal Governor of New York, like

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Speaker 1: Mayor elect New York City Mayor elect Mandami. He vowed

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Speaker 1: to attack us using New York City Local Ordinance Rule

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Speaker 1: seventeen to force us to carry the kind of political

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Speaker 1: water of messaging saying that hey, these are the these

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Speaker 1: are the these are the We don't provide abortions or

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Speaker 1: refer for abortions, but you can get an abortion somewhere else,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, instead of giving free services to him,

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Speaker 1: free medical care, et cetera, they want to shut us down.

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Speaker 1: The Pro Life Pregnancy Center Network in America gave away

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Speaker 1: nearly half a billion dollars worth of free services last year,

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Speaker 1: and Compass Care, you know, is giving away millions of

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Speaker 1: dollars worth of free medical care and community support to

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Speaker 1: whom facing on planned pranks. Because there's not a sane

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Speaker 1: woman alive who actually wants to have an abortion. She

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Speaker 1: just feels stuck. And so what we do is give

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Speaker 1: her a vision of our future after having had a child.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's possible you can do this and continue

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Speaker 1: your career. It's possibly you can have this baby and

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Speaker 1: continue your education. But we've got to continue to fight

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Speaker 1: these these rabid pro abortion politicians because quite frankly, they're

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Speaker 1: they're Marxists, Marxist pro abortion public and what a Marxist

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Speaker 1: basically is the primary tenant of a Marxist is an atheist,

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Speaker 1: someone who doesn't believe in God and puts government in

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01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:50,960
Speaker 1: the position of God to determine what is right and wrong,

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Speaker 1: what is the purpose of mankind? And a cruise to

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Speaker 1: itself and in themselves again absolute power.

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Speaker 4: So who dies?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And they don't want anybody out there saying

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Speaker 1: that there's there are relationships that humans are supposed to

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Speaker 1: have that take precedent over their humans relationship to government.

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Speaker 1: For example, my relationship with God should take precedent over

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Speaker 1: my relationship with government. God is the is the one

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Speaker 1: who gives me an understanding of what it means to

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Speaker 1: be human. God is the one that helps me understand

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Speaker 1: what was good and what is right, what is wrong,

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Speaker 1: and he empowers me to act on what is good

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Speaker 1: and to walk in right relationship with him and in

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Speaker 1: right relationship with other people. And so when you take

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Speaker 1: God out of the equation, I mean, we're not we

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01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:37,800
Speaker 1: shouldn't be surprised that everything starts to fall apart, because

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Speaker 1: now everyone becomes their own, you know, their own standard

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01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 1: of what right and wrong is, and that we've got

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01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 1: chaos going on. And when you've got government employees and

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01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 1: you've got bureaucrats and elected officials all saying that the

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01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:58,080
Speaker 1: primary core value humanity is absolute personal autonomy, Go and

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01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:00,720
Speaker 1: do whatever you want. There can be no basis for

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01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:03,240
Speaker 1: civilized order. And so we've got to find a way

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01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:05,960
Speaker 1: to get back to God so we can recivilize this country.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I think this next election is going

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Speaker 1: to be all about. And twenty twenty five was an

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01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:13,839
Speaker 1: amazing year Gary, an amazing pro life yere. Quite frankly,

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01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:18,479
Speaker 1: so much has happened to protect the lives of preborn

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01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 1: boys and girls, not just in terms of the federal government,

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01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:25,440
Speaker 1: the internation. Our role in funding abortion internationally as Americans

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01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:27,960
Speaker 1: has has been has been. It's come to a halt,

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Speaker 1: which is fantastic thanks to President Trump. You know, things

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01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:34,160
Speaker 1: have happened at the state level too to regulate abortion.

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Speaker 1: But it's also galvanized pro abortion politicians and pro abortion

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01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:41,439
Speaker 1: activists to their cause. And I think they're going to

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01:47:41,479 --> 01:47:43,519
Speaker 1: double down on abortion come twenty twenty six in the

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Speaker 1: midterm elections. It's going to be very interesting to see.

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Speaker 1: But we have to we have to understand that Democrats

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Speaker 1: figure out, they figured something out. They figured out that

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Speaker 1: that voters respond to a moral vision, whether it's right

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01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:57,120
Speaker 1: or wrong, they respond to a moral vision. They like

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01:47:57,280 --> 01:48:00,640
Speaker 1: to have the debate. So let's do that we as

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01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:04,559
Speaker 1: as Christians have the moral vision, and that our moral

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01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 1: vision is God who created mankind and created us in

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01:48:08,240 --> 01:48:10,760
Speaker 1: his image to reflect his character and his nature back

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01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:13,160
Speaker 1: to him and to each other. And that is found

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01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:16,360
Speaker 1: in Christ. And now in the Christmas season, we can

1541
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:17,000
Speaker 1: remember that.

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Speaker 4: The Bible says, I knew you before you were in

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01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:22,200
Speaker 4: the room. Compass Care USA for people to find out

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01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:24,880
Speaker 4: more real quickly, Reverend, how do they get in touch

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01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:25,280
Speaker 4: with you?

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01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:27,680
Speaker 1: Yeah? If people want to find out more about how

1547
01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:29,680
Speaker 1: Compass Care is saving women and babies from abortion, they

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01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:34,479
Speaker 1: can go to Compasscarecommunity dot com. It's Compasscare community dot com.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for your time in Merry Christmas

1550
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:39,679
Speaker 4: to Reverend Jim Harden. Are breaking back at seven fifty five.

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Speaker 4: This report is sponsored by Staple. Good Morning, Chris to

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01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:52,640
Speaker 4: two point zero. My wife. You know, I mentioned to

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01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:56,400
Speaker 4: Joe Strecker during the break, it's a very christ centered

1554
01:48:56,439 --> 01:49:01,320
Speaker 4: show this morning. I mean I did set out to preach.

1555
01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:04,240
Speaker 4: But for the second guests in row, we have another

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01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:10,439
Speaker 4: reverend on, a pastor and a guy that I became

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01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:14,280
Speaker 4: really really fond of after meeting and talking to on

1558
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:17,320
Speaker 4: the air, And you know, it's it's weird that we

1559
01:49:17,439 --> 01:49:20,679
Speaker 4: have him on next because we just had Reverend Jim Harden,

1560
01:49:21,439 --> 01:49:25,160
Speaker 4: who's the head of Compass Care USA, which helps women

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01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:30,599
Speaker 4: who are pregnant in their pregnancies emergency Christian crisis centers

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01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:38,160
Speaker 4: around the country that give women an alternative to abortion

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Speaker 4: from a Christian way of helping. And this is one

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01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:46,960
Speaker 4: of the most pro life people I know. Are there

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01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:51,520
Speaker 4: any more on the way Corey.

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Speaker 2: Funny?

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Speaker 16: First off, Good morning, Mary, Chris. Thank you so much

1568
01:49:55,200 --> 01:49:58,160
Speaker 16: for having me on Funny. You mention that I'm actually

1569
01:49:58,640 --> 01:50:00,320
Speaker 16: just getting out of the gym and I want to

1570
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:03,920
Speaker 16: pick up diapers right now. So a lot of people

1571
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:07,240
Speaker 16: you know that you gain ten pounds with each pregnancy,

1572
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:10,040
Speaker 16: but they didn't tell you gained twenty pounds with every campaign.

1573
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Speaker 16: So I'm working that off before Christmas hits you.

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Speaker 4: You got a lot of good dinners out of it,

1575
01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:16,040
Speaker 4: did you.

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Speaker 16: Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: So first and foremost, the man you ran against for

1578
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:28,000
Speaker 4: mayor Cincinnati and albeit you're you're here on the radio

1579
01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:34,679
Speaker 4: and he's trying to explain repossess cars. The mayor who

1580
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Speaker 4: wound up winning the reelection, I have to have pure

1581
01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:42,800
Speaker 4: Vall has some problems making his bills, and you know

1582
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:46,519
Speaker 4: how hard it is. You've got a family, you've got

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01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:50,639
Speaker 4: a business, you've got a congregation, and you know it's

1584
01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:53,880
Speaker 4: tough out there. So I mean, we all have problems

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01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:58,400
Speaker 4: making ends meet. In today's society, things cost a lot

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Speaker 4: more and sometimes times we go over budget. Do you

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01:51:03,160 --> 01:51:06,400
Speaker 4: ever ever have a problem with having a hard time

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Speaker 4: making making ends meet?

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Speaker 16: Corey, Well, I think like many people you know in

1590
01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:16,360
Speaker 16: our nation and the world, you know, you find times

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01:51:16,479 --> 01:51:20,200
Speaker 16: where you're it's harder than normal, or you might have

1592
01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:23,840
Speaker 16: an insinuating circumstance. I believe, you know, it's crazy. I'm

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01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:27,040
Speaker 16: actually following some very good friends of mine this morning.

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Speaker 16: I heard Christopher smith Aman on your show and then

1595
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:32,720
Speaker 16: Officer Ken Kober on your show earlier, and they all

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01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:35,160
Speaker 16: had valid points. You know that you know, when it

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Speaker 16: comes to repossession and when it comes to all this,

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01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:42,320
Speaker 16: you get multiple notifications. To be honest with you, in

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01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:45,080
Speaker 16: the time that we're in the companies try to make

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Speaker 16: it as easy as they can because they don't want

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Speaker 16: to repossess, so they don't want to foreclose on things.

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Speaker 16: And so yeah, that's an important thing to try to

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01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:56,559
Speaker 16: have a handle on your finances, especially if you're over

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01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:59,639
Speaker 16: a one point nine billion dollar budget over the next

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01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:02,759
Speaker 16: you know, fiscal year. And so I think the biggest

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01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:06,040
Speaker 16: thing that I came across though, because no matter what

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01:52:06,160 --> 01:52:08,720
Speaker 16: I found out my first campaign, they're always going to

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01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:11,320
Speaker 16: come after anything they can find on you, any dirt

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Speaker 16: that they can find. Oh yeah, but the reports that

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01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:17,880
Speaker 16: I'm seeing with especially with what's gone on recently in

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Speaker 16: our city with the repossessions, or even with the eight

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Speaker 16: point one million dollar settlement that happened with the protesters

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Speaker 16: from or the alleged protesters from twenty twenty. To my knowledge,

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01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:34,280
Speaker 16: all of this stuff was known before the election, but

1615
01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:38,639
Speaker 16: somehow it didn't get report on during the election. However,

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01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:40,479
Speaker 16: there was a lot of hit pieces on me in

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01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:42,120
Speaker 16: a lot of the same publications.

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Speaker 4: So what you're saying, essentially is that the people who

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01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:50,200
Speaker 4: were in power before the election, who are still in

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Speaker 4: power now may have had their hands on the levers

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01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:59,720
Speaker 4: of the information somehow that as you mentioned people when

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Speaker 4: you for office, I mean, Corey, there is a good

1623
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:07,559
Speaker 4: reason that I've never run for political office outside of

1624
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:12,360
Speaker 4: the fact I don't need to complicate my life like that.

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01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:15,760
Speaker 4: There's a good reason I know where all the skeletons

1626
01:53:15,760 --> 01:53:19,519
Speaker 4: are in my closet, and I don't particularly like airing

1627
01:53:19,560 --> 01:53:23,320
Speaker 4: that out in public. I'll confess my sins. But you know,

1628
01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:27,000
Speaker 4: they find stuff that you were never guilty of that

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01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:29,320
Speaker 4: they dig up. And yet this is a matter of

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01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:34,240
Speaker 4: public record, and it happened not once, but I understand

1631
01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:38,559
Speaker 4: for mister Pureval it's happened a couple of times that

1632
01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:43,800
Speaker 4: he forgot about his auto pay or what something else.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, well, I mean in this, like I said, in

1635
01:53:47,640 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 16: these politics, they're going to come after everything. Now a

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01:53:50,360 --> 01:53:53,040
Speaker 16: lot of people, what I find is on the opposite side.

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01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:54,880
Speaker 16: They take it as like, oh, I'm going to take

1638
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Speaker 16: the moral high ground in that, like I've never had

1639
01:53:57,080 --> 01:54:01,520
Speaker 16: any financial challenges. My point would be that the reporting

1640
01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:05,760
Speaker 16: on it didn't come until after the election. However, you know,

1641
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:09,559
Speaker 16: the investigative reporters that you know had called my business

1642
01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:12,560
Speaker 16: multiple times, that had called my home multiple times, that

1643
01:54:13,120 --> 01:54:16,559
Speaker 16: you know, reached out to our church multiple times. I

1644
01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:20,240
Speaker 16: don't I think that these documents are these types of things.

1645
01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:22,800
Speaker 16: Even with the settlement that we're hearing that this could

1646
01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:26,800
Speaker 16: have been fairly easily found in public records. On the

1647
01:54:26,840 --> 01:54:30,040
Speaker 16: other side, however, that stuff was quietly put under the

1648
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Speaker 16: rug until after November fourth.

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Speaker 4: What have you heard from law enforcement Corey regarding the

1650
01:54:40,120 --> 01:54:44,320
Speaker 4: new policy guidelines for protests that are included apparently in

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01:54:44,360 --> 01:54:47,000
Speaker 4: this settlement that they're going to rubber stamp tomorrow that

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01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:51,000
Speaker 4: they knew about before the election, you know, along with

1653
01:54:51,040 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 4: the money obviously. But this just opens the door for

1654
01:54:57,880 --> 01:55:02,960
Speaker 4: any other group of people who want to commit crime

1655
01:55:04,360 --> 01:55:09,560
Speaker 4: in the name of what they call protests. And it

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01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:12,920
Speaker 4: not only means they got a green light to commit

1657
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:16,240
Speaker 4: those kind of crimes, breaking windows, throwing urine bottles at

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Speaker 4: officers in the like, but there might be a payday

1659
01:55:19,200 --> 01:55:21,640
Speaker 4: in case they get arrested later on down the line.

1660
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 4: But what have you heard from law enforcement on this settlement,

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Speaker 4: if anything.

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01:55:27,120 --> 01:55:29,200
Speaker 16: Well, I'll say this that you know, you said that

1663
01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:31,520
Speaker 16: this opens the doors. This is giving a green light.

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Speaker 16: Those doors have been opened for a long time. Actually

1665
01:55:34,760 --> 01:55:37,800
Speaker 16: keep keeping open. That light has been Yeah, that light

1666
01:55:37,840 --> 01:55:40,320
Speaker 16: has been green for a while. That's why we ran

1667
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Speaker 16: our race on public safety.

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Speaker 2: You know.

1669
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Speaker 16: I continue to talk with officers, and I think people

1670
01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:51,200
Speaker 16: people don't realize the importance of morale within the police force.

1671
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:54,440
Speaker 16: And when the morale is already low and then you

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01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:57,320
Speaker 16: have a settlement like this that basically says these officers

1673
01:55:57,360 --> 01:56:00,600
Speaker 16: put their lives on the line during these times where

1674
01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:03,400
Speaker 16: you know, during the day they were simply just maintaining

1675
01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:06,840
Speaker 16: they weren't, you know, trying to cause any problem. And

1676
01:56:06,880 --> 01:56:08,960
Speaker 16: a lot of the protesters, you know, people have the

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01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 16: constitutional right to protest and we shouldn't be against that.

1678
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:15,520
Speaker 16: But when officers are trying to do their job and

1679
01:56:15,560 --> 01:56:17,760
Speaker 16: then they get slapped on the hand because of it,

1680
01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 16: or even worse, they get reprimanded or they basically get told, hey,

1681
01:56:21,600 --> 01:56:25,080
Speaker 16: your job doesn't really mean anything, that morale goes low.

1682
01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:29,360
Speaker 16: We're seeing that with the judges, the progressive judges in

1683
01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:32,480
Speaker 16: Hamilton County are just allowing criminals to be back on

1684
01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:35,280
Speaker 16: the streets. And the one of the biggest things I

1685
01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:38,080
Speaker 16: heard from officers throughout the year was we don't even

1686
01:56:38,120 --> 01:56:41,440
Speaker 16: see the point in arresting many times because these people

1687
01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:43,440
Speaker 16: are just going to be right back out on the street.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 16: And when we say that we say repeat criminals, we

1690
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:50,360
Speaker 16: know that a lot of these are repeat offenders that

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01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:54,000
Speaker 16: keep on coming. They're always going to cause trouble and

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01:56:54,040 --> 01:56:57,320
Speaker 16: there's no consequences to that. You know, the crime in

1693
01:56:57,360 --> 01:57:00,520
Speaker 16: our city is done by a very small handful people.

1694
01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:03,480
Speaker 16: I'm telling you that right now puts a stain on

1695
01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:06,520
Speaker 16: the entire city, but it can be easily fixed by

1696
01:57:06,560 --> 01:57:10,120
Speaker 16: just allowing the officers to do their job, the escalation tactics,

1697
01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 16: approaching properly, enforcing low level crimes to cause the escalation,

1698
01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:18,440
Speaker 16: and then also putting pressure on the judges. And I

1699
01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:22,160
Speaker 16: think the number one, the absolute number one thing that's

1700
01:57:22,200 --> 01:57:25,840
Speaker 16: wrong with our city public safety right now is understaffing.

1701
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:28,760
Speaker 16: I'm going to preach that over and over and over

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01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:34,320
Speaker 16: that any organization that is twenty percent understaffed cannot adequately

1703
01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:37,120
Speaker 16: take care of its job like it should. And that's

1704
01:57:37,160 --> 01:57:41,000
Speaker 16: what's happening with our CPD. They're swimming, they're trying to

1705
01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:44,680
Speaker 16: gasp for air every weekend, trying to take care of

1706
01:57:44,720 --> 01:57:47,080
Speaker 16: this city. They love our city, they want to protect

1707
01:57:47,080 --> 01:57:50,000
Speaker 16: and serve, and they don't feel like anybody has their

1708
01:57:50,080 --> 01:57:53,800
Speaker 16: back from city Hall, from the law departments, or from

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01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:55,600
Speaker 16: any other sector of the city.

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Speaker 4: More with Pastor Corey Bowman and unjust a moment at

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Speaker 4: take fifteen at fifty five KRC, the talk station.

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Speaker 3: Bill Cunningham here, you may wonder how much money should

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Speaker 3: you have in your mercay.

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Speaker 4: Rs the talk station. We're talking with Corey Bowman gone

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Speaker 4: from candidate Bowman to citizen Bowman again, a pastor Bowman,

1716
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Speaker 4: businessman Bowman. What did where's your coffee shop? In business

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01:58:23,240 --> 01:58:26,080
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty, Corey? Had you guys started yet?

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Speaker 16: We had just started our church in twenty twenty and

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Speaker 16: then we start our coffee shop in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 4: All Right, the protests, which, like I said, we have

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01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:40,760
Speaker 4: a constitutional right to protest in this country. It's one

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01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:43,880
Speaker 4: of the great things about America. But we don't have

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Speaker 4: a constitutional right to prohibit someone else from exercising their

1724
01:58:50,040 --> 01:58:54,640
Speaker 4: constitutional right to move, to do commerce, to go to church,

1725
01:58:54,840 --> 01:58:58,160
Speaker 4: and all of that. Twenty twenty was a tough year

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01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:01,680
Speaker 4: in many ways to start a business or a church

1727
01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:06,240
Speaker 4: or anything because of some pretty insane restrictions that were

1728
01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:10,200
Speaker 4: put on the population and mandates that were enclosures and

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Speaker 4: all the rest. Anyway, as a citizen of Cincinnati in

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01:59:17,640 --> 01:59:24,200
Speaker 4: twenty twenty, how if it all did the rotest, the

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01:59:24,280 --> 01:59:28,920
Speaker 4: protest and the violence that was associated with these riots,

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Speaker 4: as ken Kober called them, see writing is not constitutional.

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01:59:33,280 --> 01:59:35,120
Speaker 4: But how did they affect you as a citizen?

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Speaker 16: Cory Well, I would say that this is actually what

1735
01:59:40,240 --> 01:59:44,640
Speaker 16: started our church. Gary Jeff because for us, many people

1736
01:59:44,720 --> 01:59:48,040
Speaker 16: might not know this side of the story for our life,

1737
01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:51,000
Speaker 16: but many people knew me as a coffee shop owner

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01:59:51,080 --> 01:59:53,600
Speaker 16: in the West End and a candidate for mayor and

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01:59:53,720 --> 01:59:59,200
Speaker 16: obviously j Vice President jd Vance's brother. Yeah, but what

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01:59:59,400 --> 02:00:02,280
Speaker 16: got us to Sinant because I grew up in the area,

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Speaker 16: but I had gone to Tampa, Florida to study ministry,

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Speaker 16: and during that time, I always knew that I was

1743
02:00:09,040 --> 02:00:12,800
Speaker 16: coming back to Cincinnati. And then what happened was that

1744
02:00:12,920 --> 02:00:16,920
Speaker 16: I had a pastor that got arrested for having church.

1745
02:00:17,200 --> 02:00:19,880
Speaker 16: You know, pastors these days get arrested for many things,

1746
02:00:19,920 --> 02:00:22,280
Speaker 16: and you're always wondering, oh, Dear God, what they have

1747
02:00:22,400 --> 02:00:25,720
Speaker 16: their hands into. But my past we were our church

1748
02:00:25,800 --> 02:00:27,480
Speaker 16: that we were a part of. We fed a thousand

1749
02:00:27,560 --> 02:00:31,200
Speaker 16: families a week, we were doing outreach, we were helping people,

1750
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Speaker 16: and the local government, through the city council and through

1751
02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:36,920
Speaker 16: the mayor and the county sheriff. We're trying to shut

1752
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Speaker 16: down churches in Tampa, Florida at that time. Well, my pastor,

1753
02:00:40,880 --> 02:00:44,560
Speaker 16: you know, politely respectfully refused because we couldn't shut the

1754
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Speaker 16: doors down to helping people. And then to make an

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Speaker 16: example out of them, they arrested them at his home,

1756
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Speaker 16: sent a helicopter to his house and arrested them. Now

1757
02:00:53,400 --> 02:00:56,080
Speaker 16: the charges were dropped because of the Constitution, and also

1758
02:00:56,200 --> 02:00:59,880
Speaker 16: the governor de Santus came up and said churches are essential.

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Speaker 16: No pastors are.

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Speaker 2: Going to be arrested.

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Speaker 16: During that time, that started something in us because my hometown,

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02:01:07,400 --> 02:01:10,000
Speaker 16: Cincinnati was going through many things where they were trying

1763
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Speaker 16: to shut down businesses. All the riots were happening. And

1764
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Speaker 16: when that happened, you know, your heartbreaks for people. I

1765
02:01:16,120 --> 02:01:17,840
Speaker 16: looked at my wife and I said, we have to

1766
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Speaker 16: start our church now. So we start our church November

1767
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Speaker 16: of twenty twenty, in the middle of all those mandates.

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Speaker 16: And within the first week of our church, we were

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Speaker 16: going out to the arts apartments in the West End

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Speaker 16: and other areas and distributing meals and groceries and clothes

1771
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Speaker 16: and toy giveaways. And we've been going. We actually just

1772
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Speaker 16: celebrate our five year anniversary and I tell people thank you,

1773
02:01:40,760 --> 02:01:43,480
Speaker 16: and I tell people we started in rebellion. You know,

1774
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Speaker 16: we started by basically saying no churches are essential. We've

1775
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Speaker 16: got to help people no matter what, and we can't

1776
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Speaker 16: bow our knees to a tyrannical government, whether it's local

1777
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Speaker 16: or any other level.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, render into Caesar. What is Caesar's render under God?

1779
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Speaker 4: What is gone?

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Speaker 2: And you guys absolutely.

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Speaker 4: You know, demonstrated that through faith and through action both.

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Speaker 4: How do how do we address the continued violence in Cincinnati?

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Speaker 4: I hate to call it gun violence because you know

1784
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Speaker 4: what I've talked to people before that our Second Amendment enthusiast.

1785
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Speaker 4: In other words, they appreciate the fact that we have

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Speaker 4: a god given right to carry and to own firearms. Corey,

1787
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Speaker 4: as citizens, as law abiding citizens, How do we get

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Speaker 4: a handle in this violence? And you talked about the

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Speaker 4: recidivism rate of people who continue to commit crimes because

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Speaker 4: of the revolving door in the justice system. I think

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Speaker 4: the recidivism rate on violent crime is about eighty seven

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Speaker 4: percent of the last figures I saw. So how do

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02:02:55,800 --> 02:02:59,360
Speaker 4: more shootings to you know, more shootings this week and

1794
02:02:59,800 --> 02:03:06,520
Speaker 4: over the weekend, and somebody died because of this violence?

1795
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Speaker 4: It's really it's it's a cultural thing that we need

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02:03:10,520 --> 02:03:14,520
Speaker 4: to get ahold of. And and can we stop calling

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Speaker 4: it gun violence because it's simply violence that if they

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Speaker 4: committed with a gun, it's fine. They outlawed guns in

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Speaker 4: Great Britain, and there are stabbings in what they call

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Speaker 4: the Tube almost every week in London.

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Speaker 16: Well, you know what, Gary Jeff. Over the last year,

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Speaker 16: not only were we campaigning for our local race, but

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Speaker 16: we got a chance to go to a lot of

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Speaker 16: dinners and events of whether it be state or national

1805
02:03:43,240 --> 02:03:46,560
Speaker 16: figures running for political offices as well. And at many

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Speaker 16: of these dinners and fundraisers or rallies, whatever you want

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Speaker 16: to call them, there's always a question and answer session.

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Speaker 16: And I found it funny because I'm I'm a you know,

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Speaker 16: I'm a Christian. I'm a father and a husband first

1810
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Speaker 16: and a pastor, and then everything that we do in

1811
02:04:02,520 --> 02:04:05,520
Speaker 16: our lives is dictated by that vision for our life

1812
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Speaker 16: of just helping people through the power of God. And

1813
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Speaker 16: as I was at these events, I found it kind

1814
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Speaker 16: of interesting that every question was always related to, you know,

1815
02:04:15,440 --> 02:04:17,680
Speaker 16: very key things that we're dealing with in our country

1816
02:04:17,800 --> 02:04:22,360
Speaker 16: with UH, with violence, with public safety, and also with affordability,

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Speaker 16: with jobs, with a lot of things that people are

1818
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Speaker 16: suffering with right now. And you're a lot of people,

1819
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Speaker 16: what I say is that you're looking to when you

1820
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Speaker 16: have a spiritual crisis going on in the country. A

1821
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Speaker 16: lot of people, you know, try to figure out whether

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Speaker 16: they should worship government or not. And when I say

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Speaker 16: worship government, it's like they look to the government for everything,

1824
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Speaker 16: for their source of supply. They look at that for

1825
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Speaker 16: to fix everything. There's administrative things that every government needs

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Speaker 16: to fix, and just focus on their jobs. Stop trying

1827
02:04:52,480 --> 02:04:55,080
Speaker 16: to play national politics or trying to, you know, use

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Speaker 16: it as a platform for bigger aspirations. Just do your

1829
02:04:59,480 --> 02:05:03,200
Speaker 16: job and keep the streets clean and safe, prosperous. You know,

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Speaker 16: when it comes to the violence in our savity, administrative

1831
02:05:05,720 --> 02:05:10,200
Speaker 16: capability is make sure your cops are properly staffed, make

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Speaker 16: sure that they can enforce in a way to where

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Speaker 16: there's de escalation. Make sure the judges are held to accountability.

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Speaker 16: And then make sure that the officers have a role

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Speaker 16: in the community that they're not just seen as the

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Speaker 16: worst case scenario, bad guys, but they're there to protect

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Speaker 16: and serve the community. But ultimately, all these questions that

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Speaker 16: I've heard over dinners and fundraisers, all these questions that

1839
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Speaker 16: we're asking ourselves right now, whether people want to realize

1840
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Speaker 16: they or not, it all comes down to a spiritual crisis,

1841
02:05:38,600 --> 02:05:42,160
Speaker 16: and we need a spiritual revival in this country. We

1842
02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:45,040
Speaker 16: need people to turn back to God. We need to

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02:05:45,160 --> 02:05:49,560
Speaker 16: establish the family unit, fathers in the home, allowing people

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Speaker 16: to work for a living, providing jobs when necessary, to

1845
02:05:54,080 --> 02:05:58,120
Speaker 16: be able to give people helping hand up, not just

1846
02:05:58,160 --> 02:06:01,600
Speaker 16: a handout, but a hand up, and all that in

1847
02:06:01,680 --> 02:06:04,200
Speaker 16: my mind, because I've been at some of the lowest

1848
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Speaker 16: points you know, throughout my life at times, and the

1849
02:06:08,240 --> 02:06:11,360
Speaker 16: thing that always brought me up, and the thing that's

1850
02:06:11,400 --> 02:06:13,920
Speaker 16: always brought everybody else up that I talk to, that

1851
02:06:14,080 --> 02:06:17,320
Speaker 16: is worth anything, all comes back to turning your life

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02:06:17,320 --> 02:06:21,480
Speaker 16: over to Jesus Christ. And my job isn't to force

1853
02:06:21,720 --> 02:06:24,880
Speaker 16: Jesus on everybody. My job is to tell people, Hey,

1854
02:06:24,920 --> 02:06:27,800
Speaker 16: this is something that has changed my life. I would

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02:06:27,840 --> 02:06:31,800
Speaker 16: encourage anybody that's listening right now. Maybe you've never given

1856
02:06:31,840 --> 02:06:34,800
Speaker 16: your life to Jesus, or maybe you've never actually taken

1857
02:06:34,840 --> 02:06:38,080
Speaker 16: that step to step into a church because you think, hey,

1858
02:06:38,120 --> 02:06:40,600
Speaker 16: I don't I'm not right, or I'm not ready for

1859
02:06:40,760 --> 02:06:43,680
Speaker 16: Jesus yet, I'm not clean enough for Jesus. That's like

1860
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Speaker 16: me taking my car to a car wash and saying, oh,

1861
02:06:46,440 --> 02:06:48,400
Speaker 16: it's too dirty to take it to the car wash.

1862
02:06:48,440 --> 02:06:51,760
Speaker 16: I got to clean it up first, you know, coming

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Speaker 16: to Christ. Coming to Christ is coming as you are,

1864
02:06:56,080 --> 02:06:59,200
Speaker 16: and then allowing him to be able to make your

1865
02:06:59,240 --> 02:07:01,840
Speaker 16: life better. And that's what he's done for me and

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Speaker 16: my family. And I would encourage everybody I think about.

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Speaker 16: You know, I think it was the night before the election,

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Speaker 16: Gary Jeffson, you gave me a call and me and

1869
02:07:10,040 --> 02:07:12,440
Speaker 16: you just prayed over the election, and there was so

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Speaker 16: much peace in my home at that time. And I'm

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Speaker 16: so thankful for brothers like you that are encouraging in

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Speaker 16: every way, and I think people need more of that

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Speaker 16: more than anything.

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Speaker 4: Pastor Bowman, Hey, you know what, that may be more

1875
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Speaker 4: important than saying, Mayor Bowman, Pastor Bowman, Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 4: To use her all right, thank you so much. Jim

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Speaker 4: Ornaesi will join us next. I'm sure it'll be a

1878
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Speaker 4: totally different conversation. Eight twenty eight. Nice enough to get

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Speaker 4: up this morning and talk for a few minutes to

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Speaker 4: help me fill out this show. A former congressman and

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Speaker 4: candidate Jim Rinesi, who's a businessman and an entrepreneur and

1882
02:08:00,440 --> 02:08:04,160
Speaker 4: has his fingers on the pulse of what goes on

1883
02:08:04,240 --> 02:08:07,440
Speaker 4: in Washington. DC, which is why he washes his fingers

1884
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Speaker 4: quite often. Good morning and Merry Christmas, mister RAINECI, how

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Speaker 4: are you? Oh, I'm sorry, I'm supposed to put him on. Jim,

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Speaker 4: How are you?

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Speaker 1: Good morning?

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Speaker 16: How are you?

1889
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Speaker 4: I'm fine, Just got to hit the right button. So

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Speaker 4: a couple of things that I wanted to address with you.

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Speaker 4: Number One, Today, the Supreme Court is hearing the Trump

1892
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Speaker 4: versus Slaughter case, which of course refers to Rebecca Slaughter,

1893
02:08:39,560 --> 02:08:48,160
Speaker 4: who was the fired Federal Trade Commission employee by Donald Trump.

1894
02:08:48,520 --> 02:08:51,800
Speaker 4: And that's an issue in this current case. And what

1895
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:56,920
Speaker 4: the Supreme Court is going to decide ultimately is the

1896
02:08:57,000 --> 02:09:03,280
Speaker 4: limits or maybe the limits of executive power when it

1897
02:09:03,320 --> 02:09:07,560
Speaker 4: comes to these federal agencies that are under the executive branch.

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Speaker 4: But because of something called Humphreys Executeur that was a

1899
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Speaker 4: decision back in nineteen thirty five during the FDR administration,

1900
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Speaker 4: prohibits the president from removing the heads of independent agencies

1901
02:09:22,040 --> 02:09:27,200
Speaker 4: without cause. And there's been a slow and steady march

1902
02:09:27,360 --> 02:09:30,480
Speaker 4: in the Supreme Court under John Roberts going back to

1903
02:09:30,560 --> 02:09:38,040
Speaker 4: twenty ten that has in many cases people say on

1904
02:09:38,120 --> 02:09:41,840
Speaker 4: the left has given the president too much presidential power

1905
02:09:42,120 --> 02:09:46,520
Speaker 4: and that the court and their conservatives may say that

1906
02:09:46,640 --> 02:09:50,960
Speaker 4: the president has unbridled power to fire these agency heads.

1907
02:09:51,840 --> 02:09:55,320
Speaker 4: Of course, last year we had the Chevron decision that

1908
02:09:57,000 --> 02:10:02,760
Speaker 4: of course limited these agencies' powers to usurp Congress and

1909
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Speaker 4: the like. As far as I'm concerned, if you're an

1910
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Speaker 4: employee of one of these alphabet agencies and they fall

1911
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Speaker 4: under the executive branch, shouldn't the executive have the right

1912
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Speaker 4: to decide who he wants working for him in these agencies?

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Speaker 17: Well, Gary, and again I don't disagree with you in

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Speaker 17: the business world, but the problem is we're in the

1915
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Speaker 17: political world when you get to DC, and what we

1916
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Speaker 17: have to expect if this is the case, if the

1917
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Speaker 17: president can fire everybody and replace them, that you will

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Speaker 17: have an seesaw approach over the years with different presidents,

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Speaker 17: which I think is really the reason why they said

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Speaker 17: these independent, dependent agents should be allowed to serve out

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Speaker 17: their term. And they're given terms and it goes over

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Speaker 17: sometimes two or three presidents. So in the end, if

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Speaker 17: you give one power and I think this is what

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Speaker 17: we have to be very very careful of. I mean,

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Speaker 17: the assumption when President Trump files these lawsuits is that

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Speaker 17: he's going to be in office for the rest of time.

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Speaker 17: But you know there will be a Democrat, there will

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Speaker 17: be somebody we don't like, and then when they're firing

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Speaker 17: those people, we're going to say, well, wait a minute,

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Speaker 17: that's not right. So I think there is a reason

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Speaker 17: to have this these terms that you know, you can't

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Speaker 17: terminate somebody without a cause, and I think in many

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Speaker 17: cases we should keep those in place, especially when even

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Speaker 17: like the head of the Federal Reserve. I mean, President

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Speaker 17: Trump appointed this guy. Now he's trying to fire him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well again, the American people voted in great numbers

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Speaker 4: to elect someone again as president who built his career

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Speaker 4: at least in the public donating not only buildings, but

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Speaker 4: telling people they were fired on TV. And you think

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Speaker 4: about that for a second.

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Speaker 17: This is so true. And I got to tell you

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Speaker 17: a funny story. I was after I left Washington. I

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Speaker 17: was asked if I would serve in President Trump's one

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Speaker 17: of the cabinet positions or one of the positions that

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Speaker 17: he oversees. And a friend of mine called me and said,

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Speaker 17: I remember there are twos that two things that you

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Speaker 17: will be if you ever asked to serve under President Trump.

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Speaker 17: I said, what's that He goes you either be fired

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Speaker 17: or soon to be fired.

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Speaker 1: I had to laugh about that.

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Speaker 4: Well, the been there been a lot less firings within

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Speaker 4: the cabinet than there were during President Trump's first term

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Speaker 4: in office, because this time he surrounded himself with people

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Speaker 4: who are loyal and he knows that, and he knows

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Speaker 4: the ropes about around the Beltway in sixteen hundred Pennsylvania

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Speaker 4: Avenue much better than he did the first time around.

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Speaker 4: We can all agree on that. I want to get

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Speaker 4: into the Venezuelan drug boat controversy that has been the

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Speaker 4: latest cause to celeb for Democrats, people on the left

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Speaker 4: in Washington, and will if you will indulge me, Jim

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Speaker 4: and hang around for another segment, we'll talk about that next.

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Speaker 4: Is that okay?

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 4: Eight thirty seven fifty five KRC the talk station. Do

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Speaker 4: you own a small business? A seismic shift is coming.

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Speaker 4: It's Jim Ornacy, our guest for the next few minutes

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Speaker 4: on this Monday morning, Gary Jeffen for Brian Thomas and Jim.

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Speaker 4: You know President Obama famously sent cruise missiles and killed

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Speaker 4: thousands of people when he was president without any approval

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Speaker 4: from Congress. Well, Bill Clinton blew up an aspirin factory

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Speaker 4: in the middle of the Monica Lewinsky scandal just to

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Speaker 4: divert people's attention away from what was going on in

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Speaker 4: the Oval office. President Trump and his Secretary of War

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Speaker 4: Pete Hegseth now being their feet held to the fire

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Speaker 4: on the President's policy regarding blowing up drug boats from

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Speaker 4: the Caribbean from international waters as a matter of national security,

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Speaker 4: because drugs that are coming into this country from out

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Speaker 4: of country, particularly fentanyl, are killing two hundred thousand people

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Speaker 4: a year, or were when we had an open border,

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Speaker 4: and the drugs are, of course are still coming in.

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Speaker 4: Is this another made up controversy or are the Democrats

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Speaker 4: Do they have a leg to stand on in their arguments?

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Speaker 1: Well, Lork, I.

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Speaker 17: Think anytime the president does something like this, Congress is

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Speaker 17: allowed to ask questions. I mean, you mentioned Obama and

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Speaker 17: I can tell you we myself and others asked the

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Speaker 17: same questions when he made those strike. So yes, it

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Speaker 17: does happen. Congress has the right for oversight. There are

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Speaker 17: some Republicans asking questions as well, you know Randall, Mike

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Speaker 17: Turner here in Ohio, Mike Round's Tom Tillis, Jim Justice.

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Speaker 17: They're all asking the same thing, and I think they're

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Speaker 17: very concerned about the second strike on survivors, which you

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Speaker 17: know is interesting as well. So I do think there's

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Speaker 17: that's one thing Congress is supposed to have oversight. They're

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Speaker 17: supposed to be able to, you know, take a look

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Speaker 17: at what this president's doing, but also what any president's doing.

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Speaker 17: And I think we always have to realize the President Trump.

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Speaker 17: I said it earlier in the segment, President Trump's not

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Speaker 17: going to be around forever. There's going to be a

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Speaker 17: Democrat president there at some point in time, and Republicans

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Speaker 17: are going to be asking similar and same questions, which

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Speaker 17: they have the right to do. Congress has that right

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Speaker 17: of oversight.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, there's a difference between asking questions and suggesting that, oh, well,

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Speaker 4: it's not how they were killed, it's the way that

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Speaker 4: you killed them. I mean, there have been a lot

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Speaker 4: of drug smugglers who have been dead with these strikes,

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Speaker 4: and the fact that, oh, it's awful that they took

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Speaker 4: a second bite of the apple when they found out

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Speaker 4: they didn't really destroy the drugs, which was their original intention.

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Speaker 4: So I understand all of that very well. It's okay

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Speaker 4: to ask questions that I don't think it's okay to

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Speaker 4: suggest that somehow Pete Hegseth or President Trump committed war

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Speaker 4: crimes here.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: Well, remember those same comments were made with Obama and

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Speaker 17: others too. So this is politics. It's one of the

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Speaker 17: reasons why I left Washington. It gets down into the weeds,

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Speaker 17: especially when it you can say political year. This is

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Speaker 17: really all about twenty twenty six, not about twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 17: It's about the November elections next year. It's about continuing

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Speaker 17: to put doubt out there. And again that's sadly enough,

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Speaker 17: that's what politics is all about. They don't get anything

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Speaker 17: done down there. I mean, they're struggling to get bills

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Speaker 17: passed even this month that are required to continue funding

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Speaker 17: of the defense sector and other things. But this is

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Speaker 17: the way of continuing to mix the sausage up, as

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Speaker 17: we say, and just continue to make issues for the

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Speaker 17: next election.

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Speaker 4: When Ronald Reagan took office in nineteen eighty one, after

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Speaker 4: the mess that was the Carter administration and our economy

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Speaker 4: and affordability, You remember the early eighties, I'm sure as

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Speaker 4: well as I do. The high, the super the ultra

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Speaker 4: high interest rates, the ultra high inflation rate that Ronald

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Speaker 4: Reagan inherited in one of the reasons that he got

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Speaker 4: elected president. We were in a recession until nineteen eighty three,

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Speaker 4: basic when we came out and Ronald Riggans tax cuts

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Speaker 4: took a hold. How long pursuant to President Trump's policy

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Speaker 4: and agenda, if he can turn the economy around, how

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Speaker 4: long do you think it's going to take, and will

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Speaker 4: it be in time for the Republicans for the midterm.

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Speaker 4: When it comes to the buzzword of affordability, well.

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Speaker 17: Look, affordability is going to be the issue. I mean,

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Speaker 17: prices are still going up. And as I've said in

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Speaker 17: many of my other presentations, you know, the rich somebody

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Speaker 17: who's wealthy is they see the price is going up,

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Speaker 17: but it doesn't hurt them as bad. The poor get

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Speaker 17: the additional funding from the federal government. But this middle group,

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Speaker 17: this middle class of Americans who struggle every day to

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Speaker 17: make ends meet, they're the ones that are going to

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Speaker 17: be frustrated. And that's where the real key is because

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Speaker 17: that's a big group of voters who don't see prices

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Speaker 17: coming down, they see them going up. Some of it

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Speaker 17: has to do with the tariffs, which I know people

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Speaker 17: don't want to talk about, but the tariffs have driven

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Speaker 17: some prices up as well, and I think that's going

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Speaker 17: to be the biggest problem for the midterms is how

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Speaker 17: do we justify tariffs are which are causing prices to

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Speaker 17: go up, and still say that that we have affordability.

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Speaker 17: So it's going to be an interesting argument over the

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Speaker 17: next few months as we get ready for November's elections.

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Speaker 4: Well, do you agree that one thing would help real

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Speaker 4: quickly would be lowering the borrowing rate? Is I mean

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Speaker 4: really lowering it? And for the first time in four years,

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Speaker 4: gas around the country is averaging under three dollars a gallon,

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Speaker 4: and almost everything other than maybe housing is tied to

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Speaker 4: energy cost. And when I see two seventy three at

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Speaker 4: the pump for the first time, and like I said,

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Speaker 4: four years or more, I'm like, you know what that's

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Speaker 4: going to help with a lot of things being more

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Speaker 4: affordable for us in the middle class, don't you think?

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Speaker 1: Well? I do.

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Speaker 17: But also remember gas prices going down as a sign

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Speaker 17: of the economy slowing down too, which is never a

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Speaker 17: good sign. Today, treasury rates are going up, also another

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Speaker 17: bad sign that the economy is slowing down. So we

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Speaker 17: got a couple signs out there that are making it

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Speaker 17: look and we're going to have massive layoffs because of AI,

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Speaker 17: which is something that's not President Trump's fault. But when

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Speaker 17: you have all of these massive layoffs because of AI,

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Speaker 17: the economy is going to start to come to a slowdown.

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Speaker 17: And I think those are the issues. See that's the

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Speaker 17: way I look at it from an economic standpoint. I

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Speaker 17: don't see gas prices coming down as a good thing,

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Speaker 17: although I think it helps us all in our pocketbook.

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Speaker 17: It will help coust him down, but also shows you

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Speaker 17: a sign of an economy slowing down, which should be

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Speaker 17: somewhat of a concern for President Trump. He has to

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Speaker 17: figure out a way how to get this economy moving.

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Speaker 17: And also with all the job losses of AI, I'm

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Speaker 17: not sure anybody has that answer just yet.

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Speaker 4: Well, realists are often not optimist, but I am optimistic

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Speaker 4: that you will have a very merry Christmas, Jim or

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Speaker 4: in Acy, I'm predicting it now and I believe it

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Speaker 4: fully in my heart. So merry Christmas.

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Speaker 17: Well, I appreciate that. And the realist comment is actually

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Speaker 17: what people used to always say about me. I'm not

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Speaker 17: an office. I'm not a pessimist.

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Speaker 1: I'm a realist. And you have a great holiday season

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. It's It's Holy Days. Eight forty nine fifty

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Speaker 4: five KRC back to wrap up after this.

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Speaker 3: No one celebrates the holidays like iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 4: The number of men here save and sound don't have

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Speaker 4: to hit the road for a little while. Eight fifty

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Speaker 4: three Now Gary Jeff Walker fully enjoying this morning's ride

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Speaker 4: with you on the Brian Thomas Morning Show. And these

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Speaker 4: stories always just make me go wow, criminals really are stupid.

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Speaker 4: Not a lot of masterminds here. A man's been arrested,

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Speaker 4: accused of stealing an Amazon delivery van during a robbery

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Speaker 4: and del High and then leading police on a chase Saturday.

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Speaker 4: How did they? How did the police find him? Courts

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Speaker 4: Court documents show that Ryan Burke, age thirty five, faces

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Speaker 4: charges of failure to comply with an order or a

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Speaker 4: signal of a police officer receiving stolen property. Burke fled

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Speaker 4: from officers after lights and sirens were activated in a

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Speaker 4: stolen Amazon van. He took a a robbery committed in

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Speaker 4: del High. If you're going to commit a robbery, my

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Speaker 4: first advice is don't commit a robbery because it's a

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Speaker 4: crime and it's wrong and you just shouldn't do that.

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Speaker 4: But if you're going to commit a robbery, there were

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Speaker 4: some There are some vehicles you should leave off your list.

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Speaker 4: One of them is an Amazon delivery van that is

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Speaker 4: completely completely connected and hooked up to the Internet through

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Speaker 4: GPS and whatever. Another vehicle you probably shouldn't steal, and

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Speaker 4: we've seen this in town is a tractor trailer. Not

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Speaker 4: exactly easy to hide. One of those also on the

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Speaker 4: list an ambulance, a police car, a fire truck. I mean,

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Speaker 4: if you're gonna do the crime, at least do the

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Speaker 4: time beforehand to fully think this out. Might save yourself

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Speaker 4: a lot of trouble and jail time. Just saying I

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Speaker 4: don't know the next time that I'll get to be

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Speaker 4: with you in this particular time and place, but I

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Speaker 4: always enjoy it every time I get the chance to

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Speaker 4: my thanks to Joe Strecker and to Brian Thomas for

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