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Speaker 1: What what what did I do wrong? Just listen, just listen,

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Speaker 1: time for two more. What in the hand fat is

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Speaker 2: Fake radio? Let go everyone?

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Speaker 1: I know we're gonna beat them Crown. Thank you, Minneapolis?

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Speaker 1: I am Paul Allen with Nordu by my side. We

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Speaker 1: are awaiting the arrival of Minnesota Timberwolves head coach Chris

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Speaker 1: Finch by Finchy Faith. We commence this Wednesday nine to

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Speaker 1: noon and by four checking Faith. We finished nine to

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Speaker 1: noon today at about eleven thirty five with Minnesota wild

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Speaker 1: head coach John Hines, a couple of victorious coaches yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and indeed we begin with Chris Finch courtesy of Second

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Speaker 1: good morning, And I mean you had that three win

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Speaker 1: operation every step of the way, didn't you. Last night.

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Speaker 2: You think, oh yeah, we made it harder than it

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Speaker 2: had to be. And unfortunately that's in our DNA right now.

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Speaker 2: We gotta get, we gotta get, gotta shake.

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Speaker 3: That one out off.

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Speaker 2: And I thought, I like the way we started completely

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Speaker 2: lost focus in and tensity in the second quarter, and

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Speaker 2: you know, let a team get rolling on you, and

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Speaker 2: that's that's how it goes and doesn't matter irrespective of

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Speaker 2: anyone's record. And you know this from you know, football

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Speaker 2: in any other sporties. You know, these these guys are

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Speaker 2: good players and if you let them get get to

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Speaker 1: So without with an eighty two game season and you know,

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Speaker 1: playing into overtime without you know, legitimately, specifically when Zion

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Speaker 1: worst teams in the NBA record wise, is it? Is it?

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Speaker 1: Like you mentioned the NFL combating analyzing or looking at

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Speaker 1: game after game in November December, stuff like that, Like

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Speaker 1: the NFL, which is a weekly enterprise where of course

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Speaker 1: you want to win, and if you had lost last night,

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Speaker 1: this conversation would be dramatically more depressing, but not just

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Speaker 1: taking things into perspective recognizing the eighty two games can

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Speaker 2: Like this, right, Oh for sure, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: You know that's always going to be the case. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And that's that's that's no, that's you know, that's very

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Speaker 2: I thought last night was a little bit of the former. Again.

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Speaker 2: I like how we started and then we just kind

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Speaker 2: it's not a habit you want to fall into where

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Speaker 1: Of a hole on the road and rely on, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, over time to get it done. You know, there's

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Speaker 2: a difference between a good win and a good performance,

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Speaker 2: and you'd always rather have the good win. But but

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Speaker 2: but long term success is built on good performance, and

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Speaker 2: that's what you have to try to mimic every night

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Speaker 2: as coaches. I think, you know, I believe in what

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Speaker 2: And that's what defines the different levels of performance in

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Speaker 1: I love how you put that because antithetical to what

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Speaker 2: Long season. We'll make up ground as we go along,

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Speaker 2: But but the reality is last year's team, like we

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Speaker 2: all the things we've talked about numerous times this year's

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Speaker 2: You know, we know what our team should look like

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Speaker 2: you're good here. They'll definitely come out. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, first, you know, the first thing that you

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Speaker 2: You watch hard and play. It's effortless. They just get

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Speaker 1: So that's fantastic. So obviously there are designs and schemes

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Speaker 1: lost four in a row and your favorite team just

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Speaker 2: No, I keep think forever. I love to make references

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Speaker 1: Second Harvest Heartland to Harvest dot org. Take a pig

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Speaker 4: and I love the opportunity. Am I the only guy

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Speaker 4: left PA. That just I'm kind of excited to see

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Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy play again. I know everything's down the way

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Speaker 4: that we're talking about the four win team, Well, I.

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Speaker 1: Just got some news coming up a little later today. Well,

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Speaker 1: I just I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 4: The way I was going to start was just please

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Speaker 4: be a full participant today, JJ. That was the modus

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Speaker 4: operande that I'm looking. That's where I'm moving toward is

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Speaker 4: I'm just excited to see him play again. I know

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Speaker 4: the team has four wins, I know everything's negative. We're

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Speaker 4: gonna do bits that bite at ten am. There is

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Speaker 4: another side to this particular purple colored coin. I just

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Speaker 4: want to see McCarthy on the field again. We got

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Speaker 4: five games left, let's find things to celebrate. I'm open

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Speaker 4: Number nine is good to go against those commanders.

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Speaker 1: Actually, and sadly, there's only one side to that purple

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Speaker 1: colored coin right now, and it's the tarnish side. It's

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Speaker 1: the one where like if it's a quarter, you can't

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Speaker 1: see George Washington's head, it's a little beat up, it's

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Speaker 1: a little dirty. Yeah. So I mean that's heavily scored.

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Speaker 1: You know, I shared yesterday and we'll pay off some

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Speaker 1: of it at ten o'clock today. I just after Seattle,

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Speaker 1: long travel, short sleep, broken buses, pros being lost, negativity

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Speaker 1: with sarcasm on Monday. I just you know, with the

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Speaker 1: kids and the tots there yesterday. Yeah, I just didn't

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Speaker 1: feel on. I feel like unfurling the verbal version of

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Speaker 1: saw two consecutive days. But now we're locked in a

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Speaker 1: loader for that ten today and this is basically going

471
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Speaker 1: to be a hey, if you keep losing, or you

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Speaker 1: keep doing this, or you don't take advantage of this,

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Speaker 1: here's what's going to happen. And do you really want

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Speaker 1: to be part of that? Yeah, So that's the Vike

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Speaker 1: bits that bite.

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Speaker 4: At ten o'clock, I saw this digital beat reporter for

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Speaker 4: the Commanders.

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Speaker 1: His name's David Harrison.

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00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 4: His ex posts have been used and aggregated in recent

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Speaker 4: days and hours. The first post was Dan Quinn says

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Speaker 4: there are functional movements that Jaden Daniels needs to be

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Speaker 4: able to do to get back to playing. Did a

483
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Speaker 4: bit of that today as in Monday, and we'll continue

484
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Speaker 4: with that through the week to see if he can

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Speaker 4: play against the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: He then quoted himself quote posted.

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Speaker 4: Clarifying Jade and Daniels still hasn't been cleared for contact

488
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Speaker 4: and it's going to take all the way to Friday

489
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Speaker 4: before they can determine if he'll be able to go.

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Speaker 1: So it's a three win team.

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Speaker 4: They're negative and Capital City, but Jaden Daniels is efforting

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Speaker 4: and is he wants to play.

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Speaker 1: I'd kind of like to see Jaden this weekend? Would

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Speaker 1: you couldn't care less? They could trot out the skeletal

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00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: remains a Billy Kilmer and I'd still call the game. Yes,

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Speaker 1: let me let me tease you for the ten, oh please? Well,

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Speaker 1: and here's the cheese for the ten, the Vike's bits,

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Speaker 1: the vipe. Yeah, where's the cheese for the ten for

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Speaker 1: the con Oh yeah, let's see historically bad numbers Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: Pirates catch astray oh yeahs defensive ranks with yards per

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Speaker 1: game of the next five opponents. Okay, so we're looking

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Speaker 1: we're thinking Vikings offense. Yes, looking at adversarial defense. The

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Speaker 1: Washington Commanders thirty first, the Dallas Cowboys twenty ninth, the

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Speaker 1: New York Giants thirtieth, like that, the Kiddies fourteenth, Blakemore's

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Speaker 1: team fourth. So long story longer here, better make some

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Speaker 1: hay over the next three boys against Washington, Dallas and

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Speaker 1: the Giants thirty first, twenty ninth, and thirtieth giving up

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Speaker 1: the old yards.

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Speaker 4: Well, I guess I might as well do a ten

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Speaker 4: amts because my focus one of them will be I

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Speaker 4: got a couple. We got three of the five games

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Speaker 4: left at us Bank Stadium.

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Speaker 1: That's been great.

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Speaker 4: Well that's historically for the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: I just took.

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Speaker 4: I'm forty one, so I went from eighty four in

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Speaker 4: the less stecl season through where we are in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Curious to see how this works out because you may

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Speaker 1: be stealing my bed.

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Speaker 4: Oh well, just can we win in front of the fans, please?

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00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 4: That's the key. Can we get number nine? You know

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Speaker 4: you're going to probably talk about a particular quarterback finding

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Speaker 4: a win at home. Can we just get for the

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Speaker 4: sake of those sixty six thousand people sitting in those

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Speaker 4: seats with these three home games remaining. Can we show

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Speaker 4: them some success as we feel some success on the

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Speaker 4: freaking field. You show up, you buy the eleven dollars beer,

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Speaker 4: You sit shoulder to shoulder between Fred and Ralph on

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Speaker 4: either side of you. If you want to see a

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Speaker 4: touchdown and you want to see a victory dance, and

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00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 4: we have three more chances to do it, and if

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Speaker 4: we can get all three, well we'll finish four and

534
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Speaker 4: four at home in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Getting one at home the rest of the way one

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Speaker 1: is imperative. Let's get one. I mean, it's ain't no playoffs,

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Speaker 1: ain't no sunshine when anybody's gone. But we'll pay that

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Speaker 1: off at ten o'clock with Pikes bits that bite.

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Speaker 4: So in the end, Aaron Jones in his shoulder, kind

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Speaker 4: of wondering about that his practice gets loose today, Jonathan

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Speaker 4: Allen against his former team.

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Speaker 1: Does he care?

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Speaker 2: Is that?

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Speaker 4: Is that a storyline into the weekend? Just a couple

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Speaker 4: of Vikes bites to finish things up. Vikes bites always

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Speaker 1: Be Eric Queen, He's a beef eater. Mike Florioprofootball Talk

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Speaker 1: dot Com he joined nine to noon around the Corner

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Speaker 1: at FM one hundred point three kfa in and a

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Speaker 1: good morning hardcore football nine to noon p ft alrighty,

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Speaker 1: now here we go. Mike Florioprofootball Talk dot Com, NBC's

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Speaker 1: Football Night in America. Also an author of several books,

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Speaker 1: including his recent Big Shield and Mike joins us now

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk Radio. What's the what's the best way

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Speaker 1: to give the book Big Shield as a gift this

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Speaker 1: Christmas season? And good morning, well, good morning Paul.

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Speaker 3: It's great to talk to you. I've missed you in

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Speaker 3: the past couple of weeks. All you have to do

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Speaker 3: is go to Amazon dot com, type in the name

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Speaker 3: of the book big Shield, and my last name or

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Speaker 3: big Shield, Although if you just type big Shield, there

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Speaker 3: is a chance that literally the search will return a

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Speaker 3: Big Shield that you can buy. That does happen, so

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Speaker 3: it would be helpful to include my name big Shield.

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Speaker 3: Fourteen ninety nine for the print edition, ninety nine cents

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Speaker 3: for the ebook. So if you give somebody I guess

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Speaker 3: an Amazon gift card, they could buy the e book.

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Speaker 3: But it's fourteen ninety nine for the print edition. It

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Speaker 3: doesn't quite fit in a stocking. You have to roll

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Speaker 3: it up a little bit like a really thick newspaper.

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Speaker 3: Don't think that works. You have to go ahead and

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Speaker 3: put in a box or wrap it. And the other

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Speaker 3: offerings are available as well. Father of Mine's out of

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Speaker 3: Mind on Our Way Home, which is a Christmas slash

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Speaker 3: ghost story that rings very well this time of year.

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Speaker 3: I've gotten more positive feedback about that one than any

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Speaker 3: other because it's the kind of thing that just comes

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Speaker 3: at the right time of year. It gives people a

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Speaker 3: nudge to take a step back and maybe address some

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Speaker 3: relationships that have become frayed, if not fractured, in their

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Speaker 3: own lives, and it's a little nudge to do something

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Speaker 3: about it before it's too late. And if it is

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Speaker 3: too late, it's a way to help yourself come to

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Speaker 3: terms with the fact that you failed to fix that

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Speaker 3: broken relationship before it was too late to do it.

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Speaker 1: Amen, Now I'm not logged into Amazon here, so I

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Speaker 1: just went to Amazon and typed in Florio just to

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Speaker 1: make sure, like when you type in Florio, the Michael

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Speaker 1: left Florio or whatever it is with NFL dot com.

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Speaker 1: You know, just in case, like if he wrote a

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Speaker 1: book that we're not getting him all the shine or anything.

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Speaker 1: And even if you just put in Florio big Shields

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Speaker 1: right up there on our way home is the third submission.

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Speaker 1: Then we get down the son of mine. That's pretty cool, man, So.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and I really you know, it's funny the guy

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Speaker 3: who works for NFL dot com who does fantasy football,

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Speaker 3: which I'm not a fan of, and that's fine. I've

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Speaker 3: gotten calls from people like, hey, hey, is your son

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Speaker 3: working for NFL networks? Like, no relation. And if that

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Speaker 3: guy wants to carry around a name that I have sullied,

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Speaker 3: more power to him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. What if a Nigerian prince calls you thinking you're

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Speaker 1: Michael left Florio and claims he has forty million dollars

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Speaker 1: for you, would you take that call?

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Speaker 3: Well, I've already taken calls like that, and my bank

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Speaker 3: account has been impacted accordingly.

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Speaker 1: Of course it has. Hey, you mentioned earlier newspapers. Do

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Speaker 1: you still actually read the physical newspaper? And the reason

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Speaker 1: I'm asking is yesterday we had a big toys for

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Speaker 1: tat show at a local store called Shields, where we're

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Speaker 1: raising money for underprivileged kids. And yeah, it was a

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Speaker 1: big Shields and I had a couple of a couple

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Speaker 1: of us scribes on our newspaper writers, Ben Gasoline, who

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Speaker 1: covers the team for the Star Tribune, Lavelle Neil, the

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Speaker 1: third columnist for the Star Tribune. And you know, we

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Speaker 1: were talking about the potential demise, I mean complete demise

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Speaker 1: of the physical newspaper, because everything is online. If there

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Speaker 1: weren't like newspapers or whatever to buy, would that impact you.

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Speaker 3: There is a certain irony in this life I've stumbled

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Speaker 3: into and the impact of digital media on print media.

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Speaker 3: I delivered newspapers when I was a kid, and it

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Speaker 3: was an every day, seven day a week. Kind of

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Speaker 3: laid the foundation for the life I live now. There

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00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 3: were no days off. You delivered the newspapers every morning.

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Speaker 3: Sundays were gigantic, thick things that you had to make

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Speaker 3: several trips from your house with your bag on the

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Speaker 3: front of your bike, and the smell of the paper

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Speaker 3: when you'd you'd get the stack and you'd pop off

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Speaker 3: the plastic wrap and fold them up and do all

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Speaker 3: that stuff. So I've got a long and for the

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Speaker 3: most part, positive history with newspapers. But right now, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's funny. I used to as part of my daily routine.

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00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 3: I'd come down the stairs from the studio above our

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Speaker 3: garage for PFT Live, and I'd stop at the door

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Speaker 3: and get the newspaper. Not quite the full tony soprano

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Speaker 3: in the robe walking down the driveway, but I'd get

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Speaker 3: the newspaper and take it to my wife. She decided

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Speaker 3: within the past year or so, you know what, it's

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Speaker 3: a lot easier to just do the online thing. You

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Speaker 3: read the it's the exact newspaper, you just read it

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Speaker 3: on your laptop. And it's been at least a year

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Speaker 3: since we've gotten the print edition of the newspaper. And

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Speaker 3: that's the way the world's going. Like everybody now instead

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Speaker 3: of carrying around a newspaper, they get everything they need

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Speaker 3: off of their phone. It's taken thirty years to kind

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Speaker 3: of get here, but I'm surprised anybody has a print

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Speaker 3: edition of a newspaper. There's still something to be said

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Speaker 3: for having a newspaper, but that's for those of us

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Speaker 3: who grew up with it. For the kids who have

650
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Speaker 3: grown up with tablets and phones and screens, yeah, they

651
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 3: look at that newspaper. It's like they don't want to

652
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 3: get an ink on their hands and It's just a

653
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 3: different reality for them.

654
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 1: P ft. What do you make of the Carolina Panthers

655
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: and these seven wins after beating the Rams?

656
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 3: Well, they beat the Rams, they beat the Packers, they

657
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 3: lost to the Saints, they lost to the Cardinals. Wow,

658
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 3: they're kind of all over the place. And they've got

659
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 3: to take what happened on Sunday against the Rams and

660
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 3: build on that and keep winning. And they've got an

661
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 3: opportunity to pick off the Buccaneers and win that division.

662
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 3: I don't know whether or not a wild card is

663
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: a possibility because you look at second third place teams

664
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 3: in the NFC North, second third place teams in the

665
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 3: NFC West, only three of those teams are gonna get

666
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: wildcard berth, it's gonna be hard for the Cowboys or

667
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 3: the Cardinals to invade that party. I think the easier

668
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 3: path for both the Cowboys and the Panthers, excuse me,

669
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 3: I misspoke, is to win the division. So you know,

670
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 3: they gotta keep it going. They gotta be consistent. They

671
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 3: got to win the games they're supposed to win. One

672
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 3: sign of a team that becomes a contender is win

673
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 3: the games you're supposed to win, and then win a

674
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 3: half or a third of the games you aren't supposed

675
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 3: to win. That stacks up to enough victories to maybe

676
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 3: make things interesting. And this year seems to be more

677
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 3: about laying the foundation for what they could do next year.

678
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 3: I don't view them as a serious, high level contender,

679
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,479
Speaker 3: but their defense is good enough. And if they play

680
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 3: like they did on Sunday against the Rams, and if

681
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 3: they win the division, you get a team that has

682
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 3: to come to Charlotte in January when it could be

683
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 3: a cold, nasty weather factoring day, you know they could

684
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: end up in the final eight this year.

685
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: Hey what, Mike Florio, ProFootball talk dot com, What are

686
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: these teams have in common? Detroit, Green Bay, Chicago, Atlanta, Carolina,

687
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: the Giants Tennessee, Buffalo, Miami, Tampa Bay, New Orleans, New England?

688
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: The Jets in Arizona? What do they all have in common?

689
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 3: Are you serious? You rattle off all those names and

690
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 3: you want me to try to find a thread that

691
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 3: goes through all of them. I have no idea they're

692
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 3: all in the NFL.

693
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: How about that Ding Ding Ding nailed it? Those actually

694
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: will be the teams the Vikings will play next year

695
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: with a last play schedule if the constituents the adversaries

696
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: are able to stay in last place where we're going

697
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: to finish in the NFC North, so old last play

698
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: schedule next year, Michael, what do you think about all that?

699
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 3: The last place schedule currently impacts three out of your

700
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: seventeen games, that's it, and you have to play two

701
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 3: games against whoever finishes first in your division, while that

702
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 3: team gets to play two games against whoever finished the

703
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: last in the division. So the schedule isn't as smooth

704
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: now as it used to be. When they went with

705
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 3: the current structure, eight divisions, four teams each, they came

706
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 3: up with this rotation aimed at getting every team into

707
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 3: every stadium once every eight years. And you know, last year,

708
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 3: and we've talked about this before, the NFC North teams

709
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 3: benefited from this double rotation where you go through the

710
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: four divisions of the AFC and then you go through

711
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 3: the three other divisions of the NFC and it lined

712
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: up just right where the NFC North teams caught the

713
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 3: AFC South and the NFC West in kind of a

714
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 3: down year and it fattened up the record. You look

715
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 3: at the NFC West this year, they get the NFC

716
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 3: South and the AFC South, and they're fattening up their record.

717
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 3: That's eight out of seventeen games. That all flows from

718
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 3: this big picture idea that we want to give the

719
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 3: fans the greatest possible variety pack and get every team

720
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 3: playing every other team at least once every four years.

721
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: So I don't know how much it helps the Vikings

722
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 3: next year. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. I don't know.

723
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 3: They got bigger problems I think than what their schedule

724
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 3: is going to be next year.

725
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: Well, so with the New England Patriots, you don't want.

726
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 3: To talk about the bigger problems they have. You want

727
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 3: to just move right on.

728
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: Hit on it gone, what's on?

729
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, I mean this is Look, this is

730
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty eight. The Vikings have had a handful, a

731
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 3: five fingered handful of disastrous seasons, and this is one

732
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 3: of them. Most years, the Vikings are competitive, and they

733
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: stay competitive through the last few weeks of the regular season.

734
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 3: And I say all the time that the true goal

735
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 3: for any NFL team, It doesn't sound as good as

736
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,479
Speaker 3: saying we want to win the Super Bowl every year.

737
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 3: What every NFL team should want to do is be relevant.

738
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 3: After Thanksgiving. You want to be alive in December. You

739
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 3: want people coming to your home games late in the

740
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 3: year when they otherwise have other holiday related things they

741
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: can do. You want the kids to put on their

742
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: Christmas list for Santa that they want the jersey of

743
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 3: the local football team favorite player or whatever other football

744
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 3: team related merch as opposed to the hockey team, the

745
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 3: basketball team, or the baseball team. You want to be

746
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 3: relevant in December, and the Vikings far more often than not,

747
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 3: are relevant in December, and it doesn't happen very often

748
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 3: that the Vikings are just kind of playing out the string.

749
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: And they've got some issues on both sides of the ball,

750
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 3: mainly on the offensive side of the ball between the

751
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: offensive line. The experiment this year didn't work. And I

752
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 3: know injuries are an issue. At some point, you got

753
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: to take a step back and take a hard look

754
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 3: at training and conditioning and rehab everything. Why is it

755
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: that all these injuries are happening. Is it a fluke

756
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 3: or is it a trend? You better figure it out.

757
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 3: And then obviously we could go for your full show

758
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 3: talking about the quarterback position. But next year they didn't

759
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 3: do it. This year they should have done it this year,

760
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 3: and I suspect that folks within the organization would admit

761
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 3: that they made a huge mistake by not having a

762
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 3: viable veteran quarterback there to compete with, or at a minimum,

763
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: push JJ McCarthy job number one for next year. Find

764
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 3: a veteran who can come in and have an open

765
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 3: cult style Anthony Richardson Daniel Jones competition to determine the

766
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 3: starting quarterback. And it's either going to get more out

767
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 3: of JJ McCarthy or you're gonna have a guy who

768
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 3: can come in and pick up the Kevin O'Connell offense

769
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 3: and be the thing that the Vikings are lacking most

770
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 3: this year, above everything else, quarterback play has been not

771
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 3: nearly good enough. And that's the biggest reason why they're foreign.

772
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: What is it four and eight on their way to

773
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 3: four and nine or maybe five and eight, but it's

774
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 3: just it's uncharacteristic. I think it hurts Vikings fans to

775
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: see this happen because it happens so infrequently, no.

776
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: Doubt, And we feel that here nine to noon with

777
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: talkbacks and emails and correspondents and things like that, and

778
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 1: you know the I respectfully with what you said about

779
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: the veteran I would make that the one A okay

780
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: but still very high. The one as we finished the

781
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: final five games is to get as close to you

782
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: can in determining what you have with JJ McCarthy, And

783
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: you know, if you lose them all, if you win

784
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: them all, or somewhere in between, figuring out what you

785
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: have heading into the off season, then the one A

786
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: is doing what you said with a veteran quarterback.

787
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 3: Well, and there are just bigger questions about how they

788
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 3: landed on JJ McCarthy because they could have had bon Nicks.

789
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 3: They had the choice of either one, right, and of

790
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 3: course Sean Payton says, bon Nix is the guy he

791
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 3: would have taken first overall, and certain amount of that

792
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 3: is predictable. Who knows what he would have done if

793
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 3: he would have had the first overall pick. But you

794
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 3: know you got one guy who threw the ball. I

795
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 3: think it was like I had the numbers last week.

796
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 3: He threw the ball two hundred, two hundred and twenty

797
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 3: times last in his last year of college, and Knicks

798
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 3: threw it like, I don't know, another one hundred and

799
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 3: fifty times or more than that, like just raw passing

800
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 3: reps at the college level, and the mechanical issues. The

801
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 3: one pitch arsenal the fastball fastball, fastball with no you

802
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 3: know touch. It takes away a lot of the intermediate stuff.

803
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 3: There's no layering of the ball. When it's fastball. You

804
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 3: can't throw it over a defender and you can't throw

805
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 3: it through a defender. So you just have to wait

806
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 3: until the guy's wide open and fire the fastball. Like

807
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 3: what did they miss in the evaluation process? And is

808
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 3: this fixable? Are the act I mean, look, I've been

809
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 3: watching football for fifty years and good quarterback play. We

810
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 3: take it for granted because the guys open and what happens, Paul.

811
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: The ball is delivered, yep. And the only question is

812
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 3: does the guy drop it like it's delivered in the

813
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 3: vicinity of the catch radius. And we've had two many

814
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 3: of these throws this year where the ball has no

815
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 3: chance of being caught on a guy who's wide open,

816
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 3: and there have been some drops on top of that.

817
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 3: But you know, between the accuracy and the fastball fastball fastball,

818
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 3: I don't know that that's fixable. And maybe it is,

819
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 3: and maybe you spend the rest of the year seeing

820
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 3: if the light comes on. I know he said a

821
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 3: few weeks ago that he analogizes the situation to a

822
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 3: quirk about to come out of the bottle. I mean,

823
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean I think the bottle might

824
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 3: break before the quirk, ever, wiggles its way.

825
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: Out, and depending what's in said bottle, we've all been

826
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: left punk drunk by by what we're seeing and listening to. Well,

827
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: bon Nix is terrific, okay, and maybe there's not much

828
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 1: separating bon Knicks and or Drake May. I think Drake

829
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: May is going to be the league's MVP at some point.

830
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: And the Patriots definitely are capitalizing off the last Last

831
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: play schedule, but there's more into it for them with

832
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 1: winning all these games. But I mean, the hindsight twenty

833
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 1: twenty bit, it's if you loved Drake May, whatever it took,

834
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: three first rounders, fourth, whatever it took to get Drake May,

835
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: that seems to have been the right answer.

836
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely. And nobody gave the Patriots the kind of

837
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 3: offer that would have been necessary to make that move.

838
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: And you know, if they had known what they have,

839
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: they would have hung up the phone like the Bengals

840
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 3: did when the Dolphins were trying desperately in twenty twenty

841
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 3: to move up to get Joe Burrow. So it's worked

842
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 3: out well for the Patriots. And once you have that guy,

843
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 3: once you have that guy that you know is going

844
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 3: to be ten to fifteen years, that guarantees that in December,

845
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 3: your stadium is going to be full, you're going to

846
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 3: be mathematically alive. You're going to be playing for division

847
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 3: titles and wild card berths and laying the foundation. And

848
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 3: what really impressed me the most about the Patriots on

849
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 3: Monday Night and whatever it was, whether it was you know,

850
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 3: they were a little complacent against the Bengals and maybe

851
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: could have blown that game, or it's Thanksgiving week and

852
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 3: they're distractions and you have to kind of prod the

853
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 3: guys to stay focused, or it's just the idea, we

854
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 3: have a chance to be the one seed and we're

855
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 3: going for it. And the way that they were hitting,

856
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 3: just the raw violence, the football violence, the legitimate legal football,

857
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 3: impose your will on the other human being. It was impressive.

858
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 3: And this is a team that senses it has a

859
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 3: shot to be the number one seed and capitalize on

860
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 3: the two home games that will lead you to Santa

861
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 3: Clara for the Super Bowl, and they aren't getting you know,

862
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: they're not like, oh my god, where we're so high

863
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 3: up on the ladder, we might fall off. They're sprinting

864
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Speaker 3: to the top of it.

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Speaker 1: Hey, what did you make of Lane Kiffen vaulting from

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Speaker 1: Ole Miss to LSU.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that it's not a disease symptom of

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Speaker 3: a deeper issue in college football, where it's open season

869
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Speaker 3: whenever you want to try to go hire someone else's coach.

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Speaker 3: In the NFL, none of this stuff happens until the

871
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 3: season ends. Now there's always back channel stuff. And that's

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00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 3: what amazes me about this because that weird, clunky pr

873
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Speaker 3: fight that emerged was Lane Kiffen wanting to stay and

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Speaker 3: finish the job at Mississippi after he'd taken the LSU job.

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Speaker 3: Why didn't they just have a wink nod for him

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00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 3: to go to LSU as soon as Old Miss is

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00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 3: done and then just do it that way, Like, why

878
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 3: did they have to sign the contract, Why did they

879
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 3: have to put it in writing? Why did they have

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00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 3: to do it if LSU was already content to let

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Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin stay in Oxford and finish the playoff runt

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00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 3: why not just do it that way. I mean, Alabama

883
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 3: waited for Miami season to end nineteen years ago for

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00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 3: the hiring of Nick Saban. If you remember that, Nick Saban,

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00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,439
Speaker 3: I'm not going to be the Alabama coach. As soon

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00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 3: as the season ends, boom, he's gone. But in the

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Speaker 3: NFL you don't have that kind of chaos where a

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00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 3: team can swoop in. And I made this point, think

889
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 3: of how ridiculous it would sound if once the Bears

890
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Speaker 3: clinch their playoff berth, and you know, there's a game

891
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 3: or two left in the regular season, all of a sudden, Hey,

892
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 3: the Giants may hire Ben Johnson before the playoffs start,

893
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 3: and then Ben Johnson's just gone and he's coaching the

894
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 3: Giants and somebody else has to take over the Bears

895
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Speaker 3: for the playoff runt. That is the apples to apples comparison.

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Speaker 3: So it's chaos in college football. And we hear all

897
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 3: the time about college football's in crisis. That is a

898
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 3: load of crap. Look at what they're paying Brian Kelly

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00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 3: to go away fifty four million, ninety one million dollar

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00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 3: base deal for Lane Kivin. That's one hundred and forty

901
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 3: five million tied up in two coaches, one who's coaching

902
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 3: the team and one who isn't. Wow, there is no

903
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 3: crisis in college football. That is all political spin. It's

904
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 3: all bs, and it's all aimed at trying to spin

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Speaker 3: the clock back to the days when the players aren't

906
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Speaker 3: getting what they're getting now because the people who run

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00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 3: college football don't like it that the rabbit has the

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00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 3: gun and plane and simple.

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Speaker 1: Lastly, with a college football bent at dion with Colorado,

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00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: I mean he makes a ton of cash and Colorado

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00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: had some disaster to a this sh year. He wants

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Speaker 1: to stay and he also does make a ton of

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Speaker 1: money should he remain the coach at Colorado with no

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Speaker 1: shador Travis Hunter at Tall no longer part of the program.

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Speaker 3: See, this is part of the problem. These teams get

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Speaker 3: a coach that may be desirable elsewhere and they throw

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Speaker 3: a bunch of money at the coach and then if

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Speaker 3: it doesn't work, what do we do. They're operating at

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Speaker 3: a twenty seven million dollar deficit this year in the

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Speaker 3: Colorado athletics department, fueled by the nil expenses for players

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Speaker 3: who aren't good enough and a coaching contract with Dean

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Speaker 3: Sanders that runs through twenty twenty nine. That was fueled

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Speaker 3: by what he did in his second season on the

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Speaker 3: job with Travis Hunter and Shader Sanders. I mean, North

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Speaker 3: Carolina's in the same boat. I believe if they could

926
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Speaker 3: walk away from Bill Belichick without a thirty million dollar buyout,

927
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Speaker 3: they would. Now part of it is admitting, hey, we

928
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Speaker 3: rolled the dice on one of the greatest NFL coaches

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Speaker 3: of all time and it doesn't work. You know why

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Speaker 3: it doesn't work because it's about players. It's not about coaches.

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Speaker 3: At the college level. You got to have the right players,

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Speaker 3: and they have a whifted on getting the right players.

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Speaker 3: And that falls on Belichick directly, but also on GM

934
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Speaker 3: Mike Lombardi, who was the guy out there finding the players.

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Speaker 3: They didn't find good enough players. I think they'd get

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Speaker 3: out of that in a heartbeat if they could. So

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Speaker 3: this and I go back to the Lane Kiffen conundrum.

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Speaker 3: Teams feel like they got to throw all this money

939
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Speaker 3: at coaches who are showing anything that looks positive because

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Speaker 3: they don't want to lose him to somebody who's going

941
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Speaker 3: to swoop in and pluck him away during a season.

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Speaker 3: The whole thing is a mess. It's a it's a

943
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Speaker 3: chaotic reality that the NCAA has allowed, and they want

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Speaker 3: someone else to fix it for them. And I just

945
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 3: I enjoy college football less and less because I believe

946
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 3: that the people in charge of it either are inherently corrupt,

947
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Speaker 3: or they don't know what they're doing, or a combination

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Speaker 3: of both.

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Speaker 1: You know what it is, it's a boondoggle. And on

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Speaker 1: that note, I'll call you next week, Seopaul, Mike Glorio.

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