WEBVTT - 1-5-26 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:04.040 Do you want to be in a Mafican all right back, Yeah, 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:06.360 the first one about twenty twenty six for me and 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:10.559 probably for you, possibly for you. Here we go another 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:12.760 year ahead of us. Of course, when you start with 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:15.840 bad news. Hopefully, hopefully that's not the trend for the 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:18.599 entire twenty twenty six campaign. I'm saying, we started in 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:20.759 Cincinnati with a homicide of an eleven year old. For 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:24.160 God's sake, Well, here we go again. Not much as changing. 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:26.680 The big story I think over the last few days 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:30.560 certainly has been what just happened in Venezuela. As the 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:33.040 Trump administration moved in, they took Maduro out. He is 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:35.559 being a reigned today in the Southern District of New 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:37.960 York probably as we speak right now. They've got him 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:40.040 off an army heilo, I believe, and they've got him 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:42.879 in court. They got him in custody. Hopefully it is 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:45.800 not a Jeffrey Epstein situation and how that turned out 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:47.600 when he was in custody. That would not be good 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:49.960 with the eyes of the world on us. But the 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:52.720 idea that we're doing this over drugs and not oil. 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:54.760 I think there's a lot of people that believe it's 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:57.320 about drugs, but I don't know. I look at the 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:59.680 history of this thing and go pretty clear to me 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:02.600 talking anything about drugs. Right now, we're talking about opening 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:05.720 up the oil markets and Cuba and Mexico maybe next 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:08.840 who knows what all this means. Maybe some perspective on 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:11.119 it from a guy who actually lived spent a lot 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:14.080 of time in Latin America as an expert in Latin America, 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:17.520 the former director of National Studies that UD founded human 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.200 Rights studies program. He is a professor. Mark and Salaco 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:23.200 joined the show on seven hundred WW from the University 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:23.600 of Dayton. 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:26.720 Mark, Happy New Year, Scott. 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:31.480 Let's jump in and go with the narrative here about 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.320 this being the Yeah, I think we agreed last time 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:36.920 we spoke that the pretext here was, you know, drugs 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.800 protextual and this is all largely about oil because the 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:41.560 whole drug thing really doesn't make a lot of sense. 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:46.440 Even the government themselves, those who in the den also said, yeah, 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:49.080 Venezuela really is not a big exporter here. Of that 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:51.600 it might go through Mexico be funneled, but China is 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:53.440 the big end I mean here, Mexico is a bigger 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.400 proponent of drugs than Venezuela is at this point. 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:57.680 But I look at this one. 0:01:57.880 --> 0:01:59.760 This is kind of interesting because there are so many 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:03.240 patriots from Venezuela because of that awful regime, and I 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:07.040 think we should celebrate that. It's interesting because Trump's whole 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.600 plan for America has been stopping the flow of immigrants. 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:12.760 In Venezuela is one of those countries. It sent us 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:14.880 a lot of a lot of their immigrants, and so 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:17.400 I think that's an interesting juxtaposition. 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:23.440 Yeah, there's a lot involved in this. I'm not sure 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:27.400 that the drug issue was a pretext. It was literally 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:30.799 the Department of Justice had been looking at this guy 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:32.240 for decades, so this. 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:36.040 Is a case was built. But it's about drugs, it's 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:37.320 about oils. 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:40.360 But a lot of time talking about oil, which we understand, 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:44.040 which is really necessary. You know, Venezuela is a seventeen 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:47.480 percent of the world's controlling reserves and produces one percent. 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:51.320 I mean, there's real growth there, so, but it's also 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:54.280 about it's also about regime change. There's no question about 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.480 regime change, and not just in Venezuela, which many people 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:01.560 are applauding, even though they're not happy about military intervention 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:02.320 in United States. 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:03.280 But I'm happy about the. 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:06.400 Removal of Maderto. Now you're thinking about Cuba, and now 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:08.959 you think about nick at Iwa, which Daniel Otago is 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:11.320 really horrible guy. And there are a lot of people 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:19.160 who look an opportunity in Venezuela to ignite, reignited democratic movement. 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:25.840 You know, this, this democratic unity platform, Maria Cordina Machallo. 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:28.160 Was really to be applauded. 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:31.440 So it's really strange to me because the president mentioned 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:37.560 the Vice President Selsea Rodriguez. The oils are not the 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:42.760 Nobel Prize winner leader of this very viable democratic. 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:44.320 Platforms. 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:48.680 Sou Venezuela has a long history of Latina of democracy, 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:52.600 but there was really aborted by this years and years 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:58.680 decades on Chevysmo Caesar Jave is now thankfully it's over Madudo. 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:04.560 But Venezuela has the strength of a society to come 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:08.120 to this positively democratically. 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:10.280 I think that's one of the things. 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:13.160 You know, we talk about Iraq and Afghanistan and which 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.600 are twenty years endless war and look how it ended, 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.680 and we do Vietnam, and it goes on and on 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:19.400 and on, and there's some bright points where we tried 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:22.520 to build states, but it generally doesn't work out too well. 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:23.839 Marketslock. 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:25.840 I think there's a little different because you know, the 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:29.600 thing in the Middle East is you're fighting against Islam, right. 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:32.960 You don't have that component here. So it's also in 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:36.320 the West, right, and so they have a history of democracy. 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:39.279 To me, that's it's a little bit. If you have 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.440 a chance, it may very well be with Venezuela. Let's 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:44.320 put it that way. Do you agree, Well. 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.360 You know, I mean Venezuela when I started going to 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:49.120 Latin America, living there and researching there in the in 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:54.880 the eighties, Venezuela had avoided the military cutictas and the revolutions. 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:58.479 Even Colombia next door, the drug trafficking on the farc 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:01.800 and the gorillas and nineteen ex are Venezuela state above that, 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:07.440 and there's there's a vibrant democratic element there. But even 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:09.840 if I can had this, you know, what the President 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:15.159 said was sort of strange, talking about just so strange, 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:18.160 we're going to run we are going to run Venezuela. 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:21.200 And he started talking about the Trump corollary to the 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:24.040 Monroe doctri et cetera. But you know, I see standing 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:28.560 behind them Marco Rubil, who has been a long advocate, 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:30.600 long time advocate for the removal of these type of 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:35.000 these corypt dictatorships, being Cuban exil himself and he's a statesman, 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:40.719 it would be wonderful time now Marco Rubio really working 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:44.680 with allies in the region and the organization of Berican 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:49.000 States to really produce it would be a major You know, 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:51.279 in Latin America there are always suspicious in the United 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:52.680 States gunboat diplomacy. 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:54.440 They started in Venezuela. 0:05:53.920 --> 0:06:00.839 In eighteen hundreds, right, But there's how is a wonderful 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:06.240 opportunity when a dictatorship falls, when it collapses. Now, if 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:08.520 he makes this just about oil, it's got to be 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.440 about oil because that will be able to buy democratic 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:15.720 peace with that with that that income. But it can't 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:19.080 be just about petroleum or US dominance. It's really got 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.320 to be about genuine democracy and the rule of law. 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:25.839 And you made an interesting point as you began this interview. 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:30.800 I for a long time said I welcome immigrants. I 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:34.919 welcome immigrants and migrants and refuge and asylums. 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:35.960 Secrets understand it. 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:38.960 But the first right the Latin Americans have is the 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:42.680 right not to be forced to flee. They deserve the 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.840 right of democratic government and the rule of law, a 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:50.440 prosperous economy. It allows them to stay in Venezuela, as 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:52.120 you said, or Nicaragua. 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:55.320 Or whatever it may be. So whenever in Latin America where. 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:57.680 I was suspicious in the United States and gunbulk diplomacy 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:02.479 and et cetera, et cetera, but in Latin America is 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:06.160 always wonderful fronts of fresh air. When the dictator falls, 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:09.479 there's and there's democratic possibilities. That's where that's where. 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:09.840 We are at. 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:11.800 We're in a moment of democratic possibility. 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:15.720 Doctor Mark Ansilaka from UD spent considerable amount of time 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:19.720 Latin American expert talking about the fall of Maduro in Venezuela. 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:22.200 What happens now and somehow we're going to quote unquote 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.320 run the country. I'm not quite sure what that entails. 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:26.800 Part of that problem, though, Mark, is the fact that 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:29.880 if you look at the Maduro regime, right lost the 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.680 election but kept the presidency anyway, and he did it 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:36.280 because he's got a huge payroll of people in the military. Generally, 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:38.520 when you do that, you're not going to be open 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:41.120 to democracy coming in. So you're going to have all 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:44.000 of these generals and leaders in the military. They're going 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.239 to fight tooth and nail to protect what they had 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:50.560 as opposed to giving in to make a Venezuela democratic state. 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:54.080 How can we do that without putting military, without putting 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:56.600 US boots on the ground. At this point, which you know, 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:58.240 I think it was what twenty twenty at West Point 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:00.560 when Trump said, We're not going to do any more 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:04.520 of these wars. This is a military slash police action. Okay, 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:06.280 but you're still going to have to occupy. How do 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.000 you do that if you're Donald Trump? 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:10.239 Uh? 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:13.760 Yeah, I'm looking at fault lines. How this thing could 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:17.960 go south? No plum attended very badly, go sideways really quickly. 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:20.120 You got the military, Let me come back to that. 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:23.880 You got the Chavistas, you got the movement founded by 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:30.680 Google Chavez, who this regime really just serves. We could 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:34.120 have what equivalent in Venezuela. We'll call it antifa to 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:41.600 Chavez vigilantes. Yeah, that's a possibly drug traffickers. There are 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:44.880 real fault lines. But you're actually it's the military. 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:45.800 Maw is correct. 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:47.240 Actually power proceeds from. 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:47.920 The barrel of a gun. 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:53.880 But what I suspect is contexts are already made between 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:59.040 our generals, the Panama Canal Zone, the Central Intelsagency, diplomatic core, 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:02.200 Marco rule. You we're already, we're already talking to people 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:10.400 and these generals who enrich themselves. Uh, Maduro, they're there 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.520 are days over, the gravy chains gone. 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:14.800 They're gonna What they need to do is, you know, 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:15.400 gather up. 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:20.080 Their cash and their belongings and please someplace Spain or something. 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:22.200 That's what will happened. They're not going to stand in fight. 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:26.080 They're not going to be a military coup to retain 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:27.600 this democratic government. 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:31.160 I don't see it, Doctor her. Know, the generals are 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:32.080 already talking to them. 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:34.640 They're already talking about a first name based they want 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:36.920 time to get on a plane. We got a hotel 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:38.040 for you in Panama. 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:38.679 Something. 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.720 Well, you know, you examine that, and there's just so 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.520 many of them there. They're obviously going to remain loyal 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:46.400 to Maduro for the reasons you talked about. It's make 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:49.959 our job harder as part of running things, as Trump said. 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:50.480 Uh. 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:52.880 The other element to with with that loyalty is the 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.920 fact that all right, well, if you're already, if you 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.800 already have the gun barrels as you spoke, isn't this 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:03.560 is there a chance could make the the drug issue 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:04.319 worse than better? 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:08.199 Well any instability, Yeah. 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.959 Because of the instability, right, and and the weapons and 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:12.160 the power in Columbia. 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.800 Yeah, I lived in Columbia, which a really stable democratics, 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:18.480 a political system, I'll call it that, I'll believe it 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:21.720 or not. But the drug traffickers, drug traffickers were just 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:26.080 a state within a state. But what happened with Madero 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:29.559 was he had turned as had come by the way 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:34.960 Juan Ernandez, the Honduran president that our president just pardoned 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:40.600 for drug crimes right to Honduras and Venezuela had become 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.560 the government had really become a sort of corrupt government. 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:45.000 It was just venal. 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.560 And so you know, I brought up the specter of 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:53.800 you know, Chevista gangs out there trying to be violent resistance. 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:59.000 But no one's going to go to their grave for Machado. 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:03.680 He's not charismatic dictator. He's really a ten dictator. Not 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:05.560 a lot of people are going to martyr themselves on 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.880 the sec the on the on the on the altar 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:10.680 of Madito. 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:14.320 Yeah, and also the scope of Venezuela's like, you know, 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:15.600 twice the size of California. 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:17.199 You have got about thirty million people there. 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:20.079 That this isn't like a small island, you know, this 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:22.920 isn't a Haiti or Panama, for God's sakes. That's a 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:25.520 pretty big country and and and inhospitable one at that. 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.040 One comes to the terrain. So anytime I hear this, 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:31.559 I think of, okay, what about the US military? You 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:33.960 just look at that and go oof. Based on what 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:36.520 we described, and then the the you know, the topography 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:38.920 and the land mass, the size of the thing and 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.800 the scope of the population makes it even more difficult 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:43.960 to run this country. 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.680 You know. But but it's not and you're a perceptive 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:48.400 of this, it's. 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:52.000 This is not like a rock where we really had 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:55.200 to have put on the ground because we were being 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:58.080 there was an insurgency against our occupation or whatever we 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.079 want to call it. No, that's not the situation. You 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:04.040 don't have is law and order. Will people be able 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:07.880 to keep the gangs normal crime, normal crime? 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:09.400 And then drug related crime? 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:13.479 If the military and the security forces and the intelligence 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:19.040 surfaces sort of collapse, you have have instability, and that 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:19.920 it will be dangerous. 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:22.240 What we have to avoid. 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:24.640 If I use the analogy of Rock, can is the 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:30.800 depatification where anyone who was related to Mandeto, particularly in 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.960 the oil industry and other key industries. Right, we can't 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:37.880 just fire people because they're tired with Talbot. We may 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:41.680 with Mendeto. We made that mistake in a rock. So again, 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:45.920 you know there's a professional class. There is a vibrant Uh, 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:49.839 there could be a vibrant private market, private ownership and 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:51.280 market economy. 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:51.880 Uh. 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:55.920 It's been corrupted by this this regime, this democratic I 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:59.679 don't we call this state capitalism crony capitalism. There's real 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:03.400 epporate tunity for the private sector to go. There's a 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:08.000 professional class, the attorneys and terrorists who can restore the 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:08.600 rule of law. 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:11.400 I don't want to be I don't. 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:13.120 Want to have rose colored glasses about this. 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.800 I understand the difficulties, and. 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:17.319 I don't want to say, oh, it's gonna be a rock. 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:18.959 There's gonna be a cake walk, and they're going to 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:22.319 welcome us as as liberators and oil will pay for herself. 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:26.040 We heard those errors, those those lives. 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.000 But then there's a if I can repeat it, there's 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.480 a real democratic moment here that's why, I hope. 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:32.679 I don't know why. 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:34.079 He's talking about Delsea Rodriguez. 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:34.440 I get it. 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.160 She's oil minister and the finance minister. She's you know, 0:13:37.240 --> 0:13:40.720 she's some vice president has been talking to. But you've 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:46.840 got the Democratic Unity Platform, whose founder was an excellent 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:49.440 just want a Nobel prize, and you have an election 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:54.720 in which this platform, Democratic Unity Platform one six percent. 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:55.640 It shocks me. 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:59.400 Unlike Anamal nineteen eighty nine, we're real with toroing Oriega 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:05.480 imdately had the Panamanian Supreme Court inaugurate the president who had. 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:05.960 Won an election. 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.920 So they needed to do that yesterday or they needed 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:10.040 to do it tomorrow. 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:12.280 They need to have the purged. 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:16.839 Supreme Court needs to install the man who won the legion. 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:18.240 It's as simple as that. 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:22.080 Hey, real quick, do you think we might be facing 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:25.720 now maybe a new era, a new golden era of colonization, 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:29.000 of empire building, of expansionism, because you look at what 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:32.080 we just did in Venezuela. You look at well what 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:35.760 Moscow has done relative to Ukraine. But you know a 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.480 lot of the Estonia, maybe Poland those countries like that 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:39.160 could be on the brink. 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:39.360 Now. 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:41.960 Beijing looks at and goes, well, we can just take 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.840 to Taiwan. Right now, are we seeing the big three 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.240 being in the United States, China, and Russia moving that 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.600 new age of colonization. 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:56.000 Yes, exactly right, that's the way Putin and g heard 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:56.760 that speech. 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:59.440 Yeah right. And in Latin America. 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.520 Have you lived there, taught there from a long time, 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:05.200 what they hear is US imperialism. They hear that back, right, 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:12.160 But you have an interesting moment. You've got uh in Chile, right, 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:15.400 we do. We overthrown a endy. This are the big 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:19.080 issue in the US foreign policy. But Chile just elected 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:26.280 host who's extremely conservative. You know, you can see change 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:29.280 come about that is very favorable to the US interest. 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:32.000 I'm not I'm not trying to be a nationalist about this, 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:35.800 but for the first time, maybe this is Marco who's 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:40.680 influenced for the longest time. After the longest period of time, 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:43.960 the Latin America is ton of interesting again, and it 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:47.960 looks like what Trump is saying for the hyperbole of 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:51.440 the Trump corollary to the Morton or doctor faddle, but 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:55.560 there's intention suddenly on the Latin America, the anti drugs, 0:15:55.600 --> 0:16:02.920 anti corruption, and markets. So I think there's that moment 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:05.960 in Latin America, we're favorable for reals interests right now. 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:08.280 Well, I think I also since a strong you know, 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:11.000 we're heard Marco Rubio mentioned, well Cuba could be next. 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:14.720 You're Greenland, right, But what about Mexico. If I'm Mexico, 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:17.640 I'm looking at this going this is a game changer. 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.240 Well, you know, there's a famous adage in Mexico. The 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:26.240 former president said, the poor Mexico so far from God 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:26.600 and so. 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:28.080 Close to the United States. 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:33.640 And you know, and this is when a president Wilson 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.920 wanted to teach Mexicans how to elect good men. 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.400 So there's that concern. 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.880 No, So if you're worried about Venezuela, which is decisive 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:47.680 of California, Mexico is a continent done to it so right, 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:52.080 So that's just some touched But the drug violence there 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:57.640 is astronomical. I've done a lot of research on drug killings, 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:02.680 expert witness and courts and drug cases and dealing with 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:06.200 mexicill I've dealt with political violence against women cases in 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:11.400 Latin America. Mexico is just massive. It's a democracy as 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:16.320 a vibrant capitalist economy, but it has you know, there 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:19.600 are one hundred one thousand disappeared, Achille. 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:20.480 It was it was a. 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:24.720 Thousand, one hundred thousands over the last twenty years. So yeah, 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:28.720 what did to do about MEXICILU But Mexico is not 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:32.080 ben as well, it's it's too large of a problem. 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:33.399 Yeah, how to how do you manage that? 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.440 Mark and Silaco at the University of Dayton uh Mark 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:38.879 former director in the National Studies Program d founder of 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:40.919 the Human Rights Studies Program and spend a lot of 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.240 time in Latin America. Mark, thanks the time, appreciate it, 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:46.000 Thank you, all right, all the best. Yeah, Happy New 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:47.639 Year to you too. Let me get a news update, 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:49.040 and there're a lot to chew on. There is this 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:52.399 the new way to just taking stuff up, you know, 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:54.680 if you're going to start taking countries over Venezuela or 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:55.359 with the oil. 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:56.560 We'll get to that a little bit too. 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:59.600 I'm not quite sure this one makes sense from from 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.639 a monetary standpoint. That sounds good. Go yeah, you know, 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:06.520 more than other series of oil revenue. Great, but there's 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:08.159 a problem with that thinking. We'll get into that in 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:09.840 just a second. But you know, as long as we're 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:13.400 expanding our footprint here into Latin America. You know there's 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:16.000 one area that concerns a lot of people, well almost 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:18.720 all people in this country, when it comes to reducing 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:21.200 the cost of things. Kind of other country should we 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:24.920 think about, like Columbia Country. I'll tell you why next 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:27.560 afternoons lonely back at it this first show with the 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:29.440 new year, seven hundredule Do Gowty, Cincinnati. 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:34.160 How dumb you have. 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:37.680 To be to break the windows at the house of 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:41.240 the Vice President? I see that's a different level of 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:46.360 dumb right there. Secret Service called for CPD at quarter 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:50.159 after twelve on January fifth, this morning, after someone was 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:52.879 running eastbound after breaking a couple of windows in the 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:54.280 back of Jade Vance's house. 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:55.480 Yeah. 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:58.200 I get politics and how divided we are and how 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:00.439 angry people are, But at what point you pick up 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:01.960 a rock and throw it through the president of the 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:04.000 window of the president of the vice president the United States. 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:07.720 You know, most of us could probably have our window broken. 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:09.560 Somebody throw a rock through a break through your window 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:12.680 and you'd never catch the persons impossible. But this is 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:15.000 a different level of stupidity because of the vice president. 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:17.560 Now you've got the federal government coming after you for 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:21.600 doing this. For God's sake. I don't. I've been angry before, 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:24.159 but now let's let's get myself thrown in a federal 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:28.359 person just so stupid. I wanted the family's home at 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:30.200 the time too. So there's a lot of concern there 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:32.080 as well, for sure. For sure, slow me back with 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:36.400 you here seven hundred WLWU talking to Markan Siolaco, doctor 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:39.199 Marcin Siloga to ud about what's happening in Venezuela, and 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:42.520 certainly was, well, I don't I think most of us, 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:44.240 you know, follow news, did you really see this coming? 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:46.879 Going Okay, well, we're we're blowing ships up and like, 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:49.040 and we talked about it, But did you really think 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:52.200 that at some point we would just swoop in and 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:55.280 take Maduro and bring them back to the United States, 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:58.320 you know, outside of the professional protester class, which there 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:00.760 was plenty of in Cincinnati this and by the way, 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:03.560 I'd say most people celebrate the fact that this guy 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:06.919 is out of power. That is a net positive this 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.239 whole thing, simply because of that regime and staying in 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:12.840 power and ignoring election results and the like. In the 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:16.200 fact that he's cut that country's GDP by like two 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:20.080 thirds since taken over. So there's a lot of Venezuelan's 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:23.320 expats who are celebrating that he is no longer in power. However, 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:25.479 care of what you wish for, you might just get it, 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:29.200 because when it comes to changing authoritarian regimes and turning 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:31.919 them to democracies, we're really we're not very good at it. 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:33.960 We've done it none of oka and smaller scales. But 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:37.280 this is pretty big, as Ensilaka was talking about. But 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:39.600 the idea now that if you're Russia in China, you 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:42.440 look at this going ooh, it's open season. Maybe the 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:45.400 United States, maybe we're finally it's time to rethink that 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:49.160 whole notion that you know, we're going to let countries 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:52.800 rise and fall become enemies of the United States. And 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:56.400 now we're maybe in the new area here of imperialism. 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:58.680 We're just going to start taking territories over. I mean, 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:01.040 you know, history does repeat itself, and we're seeing that. 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:03.320 We saw that with Russia. What's going on in Ukraine 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:07.160 and elsewhere. That may give Putin an opportunity to go, Okay, 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:10.560 well we're going to go after other states in that region. 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:13.679 China for sure, what happens with Taiwan, it feels like 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:16.040 it's almost a foregone conclusion. They're going to take the 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:18.919 Taiwan over and maybe the United States going well, instead 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:21.920 of all this heady, feel good, Hey, we've got to stand. 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:22.400 Up for democrat. 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:24.080 Maybe we should just go back to the way it 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:27.840 used to be before isolationism going Okay, now we're just 0:21:27.840 --> 0:21:30.200 going to start taking territories over again, because as I said, 0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:33.920 history repeats itself if you're going to go down that road. Yeah, 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:36.679 Venezuela and is certain of Venezuela certainly is one for 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:39.160 the oil, which we'll revisit in just a second here. 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:43.399 But over the holidays, and I often just in the 0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:46.879 morning when I go get coffee, we'll just fire a 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:51.080 couple curing pods and my cure egg and take that 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:53.200 because you know, get it out the door, ready to 0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:54.520 go and drink in my coffee. I don't have to 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:56.800 wait in line, get off the highway and anything like that. 0:21:56.840 --> 0:22:01.359 It's about simplicity for me. Plus, I'm just a creamer guy. Coffee, 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:03.439 dark dark roast coffee with a little creamer in it, 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:06.560 and that makes me happy at my one big cup 0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:09.359 of coffee a day. Generally, I'm a one cup of coffee, 0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:11.879 big cup of caf eighteen ounce cup a day in 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:14.200 the morning to get going, and sometimes I mean even 0:22:14.240 --> 0:22:18.320 more than that. But when you're out over the holidays, 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:20.600 obviously stop and grab a couple of coffee. Because Michelle 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:22.840 same way. She just drinks it. She drinks HER's black, 0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:25.960 a little sweetener in it. And it was over ten bucks. 0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:28.600 I'm looking at them. It's not like I had some 0:22:28.760 --> 0:22:30.800 sort of you know, whipped top. I had whipped cream 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:34.160 and sprinkles, and I had a soy latte and extra 0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:36.600 ones like a gallon size. It's just like two cups 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:38.760 of good sized cups of coffee. But still like, damn, 0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:42.080 that's expensive. If we're going after imperial as, if we're 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:46.280 starting to take countries over, can I make a suggestion? 0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:50.480 How about Columbia? I know, I think Brazil is the 0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:55.119 biggest exporter of coffee, but Brazil feels like, kind of 0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:57.200 maybe that's just a bit too far. We're taking places. 0:22:57.200 --> 0:22:59.879 Columbia seems more acceptable. I think they're just below bra 0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:03.520 for coffee exportation. She'd be like, why don't we start 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:06.440 If we took Columbia over, could could that bring the 0:23:06.480 --> 0:23:08.920 cup of coffee down to you know, what's reasonable? A 0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:12.960 couple of bucks. I just I just I'm making suggestions. 0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:15.119 I'm just spitballing. As long as we're taking as long 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:20.240 as we're invading countries and putting our regimes there, could 0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:25.920 we could we start a wish list places says like, okay, 0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:28.840 if we took over most of Latin Mexico, you just 0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:30.639 think that one's like, Wow, it'd take care of the 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:31.800 border issue for sure. 0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:33.760 But I don't think we we can. 0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:36.520 We can barely manage the United States, right, And then 0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:39.160 some make a good argument going, we can't even handle 0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:41.560 run in this country, and now we're expanding our territory. 0:23:41.560 --> 0:23:44.480 I'm just saying, but as long as we're doing corporate 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:48.080 takeovers here, it's like, okay, when the next on the list, 0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:50.920 I don't know about Cuba, it'd be nice for you know, vacation, 0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:54.120 they believe it or not, despite the terrible regime that's 0:23:54.119 --> 0:23:56.960 been there for a long time. One of the one 0:23:56.960 --> 0:23:59.000 of the biggest environmentals you talk about, like the reefs 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:01.080 and stuff like that. I guess it's pristine. I've never been, 0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:03.560 but I've heard it's like, yeah, they really, they really 0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:07.159 take care of the environment off the Coasta, So you know, 0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:10.119 Are we gonna start to see out on McDonald's and 0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:12.360 Starbucks pretty soon and in Cuba? If we do that, 0:24:13.040 --> 0:24:15.159 Mexico comes to Greenland to be another one? Or are 0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:17.920 we gonna invade Greenland at some point here for the 0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:21.320 natural resources and expanding our foot pritty from Mark No, No, 0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:23.359 But can we move Columbia up a little bit? It 0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:27.160 seems like that's a country now? In Columbia, Well, don't 0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:30.960 they do drugs? Generally coffee, but coco. It's an we 0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:32.640 just take that one. That'd be one like no one 0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:37.080 had noticed. It's like when we made Hawaii the fifties state. 0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:40.600 It's like, hey, Alaska, Wi sure, why not? God for sake? 0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:43.600 Yeah, it's nice, that's tropical. So we got a little Yeah, okay, 0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:44.119 let's do that. 0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:49.840 I'm gonna advocate for the expansion of the Columbia next 0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:51.439 to bring down the damn coffee prices. 0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:55.879 Beef would be another one. I guess, yeah, that's a 0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:58.119 good one. Go for the beef. But you know, we 0:24:58.200 --> 0:25:01.480 had a drought, we had disease. That's probably going to 0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:02.080 right the ship. 0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:03.679 There is going to write, But I don't know if 0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:06.600 we just take over a country and go get some 0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:09.520 argent argent You know, do you take over Argentina in 0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:11.440 that matter too to get the beef prices down? 0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:13.480 Were just where does this keep going? Is be the 0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:14.000 big question? 0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:17.960 Something else happening this week, and the first with the 0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:20.120 key of the year would be the Consumer Electronics Show 0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:23.359 in Vegas. If you're a guy, generally speaking, it kind 0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:27.119 of like techie stuff and some of the ones to 0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:29.679 look for this year at the consumer electronics shows, By 0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:32.480 the way, was founded in nineteen sixty seven. Hard to 0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:34.440 believe it's been going on that long. I wonder I 0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:35.960 have to go back and look and see what was 0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:39.399 the hot tech in nineteen sixty seven. Probably bigger color TVs. 0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:42.760 I'd imagine that doesn't change this year. There's a new 0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:47.200 technology out there called micro RGB. I'm guessing the RGB 0:25:47.359 --> 0:25:50.360 is red, green, blue, and that is the next generation 0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:52.920 in color and contrast. I suppose because we had a 0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:55.840 micro LEDs now and I guess micro RGB is the 0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:59.240 next generation of making your TV pop. They have and 0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:04.359 I think this issung one hundred and thirty inch micro 0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:09.520 RGBTV and I think they have thrown the I don't 0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:12.159 know if this is the trend or not. But they 0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:15.600 might be throwing the towel in on wall mounted TVs 0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:17.880 because most people don't wal mount the flat mounts. I'm 0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:19.720 sick in the head and I like doing that stuff, 0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:22.040 so yeah, I'll run the cable and electrical and hide 0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:23.240 the chords and all that stuff as well. 0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:24.480 Most people just you know, put it on. 0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:26.640 A pedestal or have the chords hanging down and get 0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:29.000 you know, eleven extension chords out and do it that way. 0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:31.720 And maybe they're throwing the townel because this thing is 0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:35.000 one hundred and thirty inch TV that is framed by 0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:37.400 a giant metal I got. 0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:38.639 The best way to call it. This is an easel, 0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:40.240 so picture it. 0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:44.199 It's a big rectangular frame, thin steel frame, and then 0:26:44.359 --> 0:26:48.520 inset in the frame on little pivot points on the 0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:51.760 axis is the TV itself, so you can kind of 0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:54.520 tilt it like a like a mirror almost, But the 0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:58.680 frame sits on the ground and it covers up obvious 0:26:58.680 --> 0:27:01.200 one hundred and thirty inches most of the hole and 0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:03.080 you would mount your TV that way, so it just 0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:05.800 stands alone now, which is kind of cool. 0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:06.399 Actually. 0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:08.680 Price tagging this bad boy, the one hundred and thirty 0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:13.240 incher thirty thousand dollars, So now maybe not for most 0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:15.120 of us, if not all of us at that point 0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:17.760 thirty thousand dollars TV, and that's probably more of a 0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:19.960 proof of concept thing I would guess is that you know, 0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:21.600 future ones are going to be a little smaller and 0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:24.920 more accessible, but still when they roll out this new stuff, 0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:29.120 obviously very cost prohibitive. They also doing a new line 0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:30.879 of speakers will look kind of cool. They've got a 0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:33.080 new sound bar out that is a seven point one 0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:36.120 point two soundbar and the point two, I guess would 0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:40.000 mean two subwolfers in it, thirteen drivers and four subwiffers. 0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:42.840 Wonder how much of that thing weighs. Hang that on 0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:45.639 your wall and possibly the coolest to encounter. There's some 0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:48.880 and there's some gaming stuff new VR head where headsets 0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:51.120 and things like that. But this is an interesting one 0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:56.440 with AI integrated into everything right now is one I 0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:59.679 must be a TV where AA you can use AI 0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:06.600 AI speakers to cancel out announcers. For example, So if 0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:09.760 you don't like a lot of people, certainly not here 0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:12.800 in Cincinnati, not fans of Chris Collinsworth, you you can 0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:17.320 have any AI take out Chris collins Worth. I don't 0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:19.320 know that's good for the future of art business. 0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:21.000 Here my quote. Sure, if you don't like the sound 0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:24.520 of someone's voices, that's it. AI. 0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:28.040 You can turn the commentators off in sporting events and 0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:31.000 just have the crowd noise, which is that's kind of interesting. 0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:34.879 Sometimes you really don't need it. Depending on the sport too, 0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:36.439 you really don't. Do you really need to play by 0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:39.840 play as much? I mean, look at what ESPN's done 0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:41.960 with the paytent cast right where it's not you know, 0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:43.720 you don't have the play by play games. Guys just 0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:46.160 talking about it like you're sitting around a bar or 0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:48.360 something like that with a sound down. I suppose that's 0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:51.920 the next iteration of that, is AI noise canceled, canceling 0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:54.880 out the announcers or I guess other things that you 0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:57.360 don't want to hear during a game. I'm know you 0:28:57.400 --> 0:28:58.960 can take the crowd noise out, just hear the announce 0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:01.640 I suppose you could with AI. It's entirely possible, and 0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:03.520 at some point you think you could be able to put, 0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:05.760 you know, bring John Madden back to life and have 0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:06.800 him do the content. 0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:08.480 Where the where the where. 0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:12.920 AI basically takes the words of the current play by 0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:15.280 play team, and I don't know, you could have Snoop 0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:17.320 Dogg and Martha Stewart call a game if you wanted to. 0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:19.479 They just used the words, but do it in their 0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:22.880 own voices. The future is limitless, it really really is. 0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:25.320 Don't know how much the AI canceling thing costs, but 0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:28.160 it's not gonna be more than the thirty k at 0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:31.600 Chine hundred and thirty inch TV. An amazing part about 0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:33.080 that is it's, you know, as we talk about the 0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:34.640 prices of things, and I was kind of tongue and 0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:37.400 she talk about invading Columbia bring the coffee prices down. 0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:43.160 I wonder, you know, in the future, if we start 0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:45.920 looking when it comes to, you know, the cost of electron, 0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:47.920 it's like electronics if you look back. 0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:48.680 I don't know. 0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:50.120 I was looking at something recently. 0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:52.120 It was kind of old school locally here and I think, 0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:54.160 like a, I don't know, twenty five state of the 0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:56.960 art nineteen seventy five or seventy seven, or or was 0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:59.800 twenty five inch color TV console, you know, the big old' 0:29:59.800 --> 0:30:02.200 common of the fake wood paneling, and it'd be like 0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:04.360 the center play piece you're living. It's like five hundred 0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:08.000 dollars for one of those TVs at twenty five inches, 0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:10.680 and now I mean, how like for five hundred dollars 0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:14.520 you can get a sixty inch TV and even bigger 0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:16.320 for that matter, for much much cheaper. So that is 0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:18.240 one thing when it comes to electronics, the cost of 0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:20.960 that and the accessibility has become much much better than 0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:23.280 it has in the past, despite inflation and all that. 0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:26.680 And you mentioned the oil thing, and we've talked about 0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:29.360 the Venezuela and oil. I think it's interesting. You know, 0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:31.120 the idea here is we're going to have cheaper oil, 0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:33.480 and I still think I know people disagree, but you know, 0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:36.400 the whole drug thing was a pretext because we want 0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:38.040 to get the oil. But you know, if you think 0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:40.400 about it, it's oil right now is pretty cheap. No 0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:42.680 one's really complaining about gas price. Is the one thing 0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:45.160 Trump can turn to, even though presidents generally don't have 0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:48.240 a big hand in that, is the fact that you know, 0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:52.600 gas prices have gone down since he's taken over, and 0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:55.080 I think this is probably a way politically to exacerbate that, 0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:57.440 and like, hey, look we're gonna get really serious about energy, 0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:02.160 energy costs, an accessibility to oil. You know, we're already 0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:03.880 drilling in the golf. We open the golf back up 0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:06.920 Golf of America or Mexico if you're old school to 0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:10.360 drilling there. But the other side of that, though, is 0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:13.720 too is like, well, if gas already cheap, then what 0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:18.800 incentive do gas manufactured the people who actually go out 0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:23.000 and get the gas and drill these companies, why would 0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:25.080 they go to Venezuela. First of all, it's all up 0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:26.760 in the air. You don't have any idea what's going 0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:28.520 to happen with the regime. And it's not like, hey, 0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:30.000 you go and it doesn't work out. It's not like 0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:32.520 putting McDonald's in Moscow. Hey it doesn't work out, we 0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:35.000 just close the store. I mean, you're talking about tens 0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:38.200 of millions, if not billions of dollars in investment just 0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:40.880 to start the process. And so if you put all 0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:44.160 that capital into Venezuela and it's up in the air 0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:45.760 as to what's going to happen with the regime there 0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:48.200 and what's going to happen, why would you take that risk? 0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:50.720 Wouldn't you just take that money and then just invest 0:31:50.800 --> 0:31:53.160 it back into the Gulf of Mexico, the Golf of 0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:58.240 America or the premium basin in Texas. You know that's 0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:01.000 not going anywhere. And if I were oil baron which 0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:03.720 I'm not, I put my money in the known commodity. 0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:06.600 We're safe. There's a certain amount of risk just thrilling 0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:10.400 for oil. If you watch Landman, you get it. I 0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:12.040 think a decent I always talk to us. Should have 0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:13.880 got a guest come up and ask him about that. 0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:17.200 How real Landman is. But yeah, its cost it. It's 0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:20.800 incredible on money and risky to try and drill for oil. 0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:23.960 I mean it's risky enough here in the States, in 0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:26.560 the Permian basin. It's going to be much much risk 0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:29.680 here to invest with all that money in Venezuela, considering 0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:31.560 the political climate and what the hell's going to happen. 0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:33.800 Can't imagine. No, we're gonna do this and we're just 0:32:33.840 --> 0:32:34.360 gonna run it. 0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:35.400 You know. 0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:37.719 I think we're going to start taking the oil reserves 0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:38.200 out quickly. 0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:40.400 I don't know if that's gonna happen or not quite honestly, 0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:43.160 but we shall see, we shall see. We've got news 0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:45.200 on the way in about seven eight minutes here on 0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:47.840 seven hundred WW Richard Harrison stands by with the Hamil 0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:51.400 County Water District. You hear a lot about microplastic in 0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:52.840 this time of year as we start to ramp up 0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:54.719 the news cycle again because there's really not a hell 0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:57.880 of a lot going outside of Venezuela. You hear about 0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:00.880 a lot about microplastics and what of the fact that 0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:02.920 fiction here when it comes to our drinking water here 0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:04.680 in the Tri State for sure. So he'll jump in 0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:07.640 next later on the show, Julie Hattersheer and Scott angel 0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:09.640 Is the oil expert I was talking about and what 0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:11.960 this actually means for energy prices all to some war. 0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:14.680 We'll talk to Scott about in just a few minutes 0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:20.280 as well. Breaking news out of Cleveland this morning, Kevin 0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:24.520 Stefanski has been fired as the Browns head coach. He 0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:28.960 goes out with a win yesterday at PEKR Stadium. So 0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:32.880 the Browns fired their head coach despite the fact they won. 0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:36.520 No word about our coach and Zach Taylor and Cincinnatian 0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:39.400 one would believe that his job is safe because I 0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:41.600 think with the I think of this organization you have 0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:43.520 if you go to the playoffs, but let alone with 0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:48.400 the Super Bowl, you're good for fifteen years. I really 0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:50.640 believe that's the case. Now you went to the Super Bowl. 0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:54.840 Wait a year five, You're fine, No big deal, think Stefanski. 0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:57.840 I'm sure they're gonna Bengals fans going, well, what about 0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:00.920 bringing Kevin Stefanski down. He wouldn't have to change driver's license. 0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:04.120 That's true. It's a big plus because it's a pain 0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:05.440 in the butt going the d I don't care who 0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:06.800 you are, how much money you have, you got to 0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:09.400 go to the DMV yourself to change your driver's license. 0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:11.920 It could be incentive there for him to come to Cincinnati, 0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:14.080 But how much of an upgrade really? I think you're 0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:15.520 getting an upgrade, but I don't know it could be 0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:18.080 all that much. With Stefanski, two time Coach of the 0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:20.800 Year is pretty good and as we know, it's not 0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:23.040 Zach Taylor and willing to give him a pass or 0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:26.080 sometimes simply because things have to change relative to the 0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:28.880 personnel that you draft, but also go back to what 0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:33.040 you did a few years ago free agency, hopefully to decide, hey, 0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:34.440 we're going to go in and push our chips in 0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:36.160 the middle of the table. Now do they have the 0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:38.839 resources in the front office to get that kind of talent? Well, 0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:40.759 they have in the past, it's easier to get talent 0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:43.160 and free agency than it is to draft. And you know, 0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.880 with the NFL Draft coming on end to April, and 0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:48.040 it's not like we keep hearing ay, yeah, they've ad 0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:51.480 more bodies and specialists and the like in order to 0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:54.320 assert discern which which players to get which not. So 0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:56.880 you know, we still manage to have the smallest scouting 0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:59.319 staff and all of the National Football League despite any 0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:01.960 a few bodies, but we're woefully behind that category. That 0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:04.279 those are the things that have to change if you 0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:06.600 hope for success in the future at the Bengals, because 0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:08.400 right now it looks like that Super Bowl run was 0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:11.760 just in the AFC Championship games were lightning in a bottle, 0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:13.360 like we had a bunch of guys got you, no 0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:15.040 one saw it coming, and you were able to take 0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:16.440 over the league. Well, now the rest of league has 0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:19.080 caught up and surpassed you in so many ways, let 0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:22.440 alone the defense. But anyway, Kevin Stefanski gone the next 0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:24.239 head coach. I don't know if you're gonna hear any 0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:26.080 more today. I would think that after the wild card run, 0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:27.960 if you get some teams that wind up losing in 0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:30.440 the wild Card rown next week weekend, you're gonna hear 0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:32.640 maybe some more coaching changes if there's some upsets in 0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:34.799 there as well. Anyway, we got all that morek to come, 0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:37.160 including news in about five here on the home of 0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:40.640 the best Bengals coverage. Let's change that the home of 0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:43.680 the Reds seven hundred WW Cincinnati. 0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:46.320 Do want to be an American idiot? 0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:48.640 Twenty twenty six got so long? 0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:51.200 But on seven hundred WW had I hope you had 0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:54.279 an enjoyable one, be it Christmas, New Years or whatever 0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:55.040 the hell does you do? 0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:57.279 Get some downtime for you? That's good. 0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:00.279 One of the things you don't think about, So it's 0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:02.160 a good time to I don't know, touch on these 0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:03.719 things this time of here, when it slows down a 0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:06.600 little bit, to put your little thinking hat on would 0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:08.000 be the state of our water supply. 0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:08.960 Well, often don't think about that. 0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:10.600 Right you turn your tap on, you have a glass 0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:13.480 of water, you make, boil, some pasta, something along the 0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:16.319 lines wherever, you don't think too much about it. As 0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:18.480 we know, for years now we have started to learn 0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:21.240 more and more about microplastics that are in our water system, 0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:23.600 and of course enough of that in you will kill 0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:25.120 you because it's a known carcinogen. 0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:28.520 So what is the state of our water supply here 0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:29.600 in the Buckeye State. 0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:31.560 There's been a lot with the EPA that's been made 0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:34.680 and special federally Ohio EPN or Mike and Whine did 0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:36.120 this a few years to get a study to find 0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:37.920 out where the stuff is coming from, to try and 0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:39.719 figure out the source. And if you look at a 0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:41.759 map of our local water treatment plants, we have two 0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:44.600 big ones here. We have the Richard Miller Frank Harris 0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:47.880 Senior Treatment Plant that's the source of about oh ninety 0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:50.920 percent of our water in Cincinnati, and then the other 0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:54.759 one is the Cincinnati water Works facility I think up 0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:57.719 in the in I want to say Fairfield area too 0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:00.359 as well, that supplies some drinking water. But I don't 0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:02.040 know much about that other than I turned the foster 0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:03.759 to the shower head on and stuff comes out, and 0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:05.839 I hope it's okay to drink and use. The guy 0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:07.880 that could tell me not to do that is Richard Harrison. 0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:11.320 He's the executive Director and chief engineer for the Ohio 0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:14.320 River Valley Water Sanitation Commission known as ARONSCO. 0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:15.640 Richard, welcome back. 0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:15.759 To the show. 0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:18.960 Good to have you. Thank you, Scott. I appreciate you 0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:20.320 inviting me to join you today. 0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:23.279 Yeah, I know this is well. I mean, I guess 0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:25.000 what comes out of the faucet. It's outside of your 0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:28.000 scope because you do more with intake in the waterways. 0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:30.319 But that's where this thing starts. If we can stop 0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:33.000 this stuff from getting into the water, it's a more 0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:35.600 cost effective solution than trying to treat it to the end. 0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:38.200 It's always the case, is whether it's this or healthcare 0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:40.320 or anything else for that matter. But let's start with 0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:42.000 the pfas saying what do we need to know about this, 0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:44.960 where does it come from, and what are the links 0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:45.799 to our health? 0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:47.560 Well. 0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:51.840 PFASs is a very complex group of chemicals and the 0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:56.799 technical name for them is per and polypori alcohol substances. 0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:59.839 As you correctly noted, p FOSS is how they are 0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:02.680 known through their acronym, and they are a group of 0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:06.719 man made chemicals that are found everywhere. They're applied to 0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:10.759 many consumer goods to make them waterproof, stain resistant, or 0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:14.120 non stick. They're also used in products like cosmetics, fast 0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:20.600 food packaging, and types of firefighting foam. Specifically, something called 0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:24.359 a triple F so they're essentially everywhere. They're very long 0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:27.920 lasting chemicals by design, they're man made chemicals, and that 0:38:28.080 --> 0:38:30.759 was the attraction to them back in the forties when 0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:36.880 these chemicals were identified and created and put together because 0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:40.680 of those tendencies that they last an extensive period of time. 0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:44.319 It can take several years for them the breakdown within 0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:46.960 our bodies. That's why there's also culled furbal chemicals. 0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:50.920 Okay, so what happens is kind of like a lead poisoning. 0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:51.520 For example. 0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:54.719 We know your body doesn't create a waste product for it. 0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:57.279 It accumulates, So the more you're exposed to it, the 0:38:57.320 --> 0:38:58.399 more it builds up in your body. 0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:04.359 Absolutely, and because they can come from from anywhere, many 0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:07.799 many pathways, and of course we're talking about drinking water 0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:11.560 as one of those pathways, but certainly they come from 0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:18.080 other pathways the air, food products, again, clothing. So it's 0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:18.640 a challenge. 0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:21.880 Well, your job is tasked with trying to prevent it 0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:24.040 from getting in the drinking water supply in the first place. 0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:28.920 How's that going, Well, maybe we can step back and 0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:33.719 just talk about the process. So USCPA has invested a 0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:38.560 lot of resources in trying to determine how to remove 0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:44.120 these chemicals from many different sources. And we're talking about 0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:47.520 drinking water, so as we talked about the rivers and 0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:52.200 waters what we work with within the Higowa Basin. Of course, 0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:56.160 the Higher River is the largest body of water. They're 0:39:56.200 --> 0:40:00.600 approaching this from several different directions. Of course, drinking water 0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:02.560 is one which we're talking about to day, but also 0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:05.600 there's something called the Clean Water Act, so we're talking 0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:07.680 about the Safe Drinking Water Act, and we talked about 0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:12.000 maximum contaminate levels and regulations for utilities. But also when 0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:14.520 you talk about the Clean Water Act, you're talking about 0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:19.160 the sources of water, and we talk about making water fishable, swimmable, 0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:23.880 and drinkable. And that's ensuring that the Higher River and 0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:28.800 other surface waters are suitable for fish being able to 0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:32.600 live and survive bugs, macro verbrates, but also for human 0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:37.719 health we consume fish, and also the utilities have to 0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:41.279 have a water supply that is safe, so that's a 0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:45.800 whole other area. We're expecting to have draft criteria for 0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:50.560 the surface waters for human health later this summer, and 0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:54.319 that's really when Orsenko we'll get more involved with our 0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:58.319 partner states to really figure out what's next? 0:40:58.560 --> 0:40:58.920 All right? 0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:01.080 So we should people be freaking out about this. 0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:04.160 I mean, it's been it's you said, it's been the 0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:06.040 better ren since the forties, and it's taken a while 0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:08.520 for getting our drinking water. And it's probably a case 0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:11.160 where our equipment and our testing abilities have gotten much 0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:13.480 much better, more granular, if you will. And so we're 0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:16.000 now we're seeing stuff we never could see before. But 0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:19.360 we know that this is a known cursin egen, that 0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:21.879 it causes some bad things to happen within the human body, 0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:25.000 and obviously we want to prevent that as well. But 0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:26.920 how concerned should we be? Do you drink out of 0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:29.120 the water the water you're talking about? You turning your 0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:31.720 faucet on, you're drinking tap? Are you doing doing bottle? 0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:32.120 Richard? 0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:37.399 I do tap? So I used to be the vice 0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:42.840 president of engineering, production and Distribution for North Kentucky Water District, 0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:44.759 one of the large utilities on the High River. And 0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:48.359 we're very fortunate that Kentucky Water District. Then, of course, 0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:51.000 gar used to state water works to the majority of 0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:56.520 their water adds grainuar activated carbon treatments to their process 0:41:56.560 --> 0:41:59.440 and that has been shown to be very effective. Ever, 0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:00.880 removing carbon. 0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:02.319 But I drink tap water. 0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:05.360 I feel very comfortable with it. A lot of discussion 0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:11.399 here is about overall risk. These compounds are everywhere. I'm 0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:16.160 very proud to be part of a water resource sector 0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:19.960 that works so hard to protect our drinking water supply 0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:22.759 in our river. So I think it's a matter of 0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:25.600 risk and balancing risk, and there's a lot we don't know. 0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:30.520 There are over let's see here. Let me make sure 0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:33.720 I give you the right information. But we're talking about 0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:38.040 over one hundred and sixty million chemicals are known through 0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:41.319 the World Health Organization, about eighty five thousand of these 0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:46.440 USCPA lists on the Inventory of substances through the Toxic 0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:50.600 Substances Control Act. There are over four thousand pifoss chemicals 0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:54.759 in less than one hundred are regulated through MCL. So 0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:58.239 this is extremely complex. You covered it very well when 0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:02.200 you mentioned we're learning more. We now know that through 0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:06.759 EPA toxicity studies that there's actually more p huss in 0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:13.520 rain water than is considered to be protective in terms 0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:16.279 of human health. And so this is very complex. So 0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:18.759 there's a lot we don't know, and it's a matter 0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:23.920 of just balancing risk. We all pay for this response 0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:27.320 through as customers. So we're customers of wonderful water utilities, 0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:31.160 wastewater utilities, and it's just a matter of how much 0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:35.200 investment goes into this and benefit costs ratios. So this 0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:39.840 is very complex, but it's certainly not something I'm losing sleepover, 0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:43.799 but it is important that we continue to understand these 0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:47.320 chemicals and remove them at the sources if possible. 0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:49.480 Well, that's the key, because it goes in the rain water, 0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:53.080 then that goes to water our crops, the food that 0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:56.279 we eat goes into our drinking water through groundwater, through 0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:59.720 the rivers and streams, et cetera, et cetera. Richard Harrison, 0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:02.600 active Director and Chief Engineer for the Ohio River Valley 0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:05.960 Water Sanitation Commission ARONSCO is what they're called. These are 0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:08.400 the folks who test our drinking water. And there's concern 0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:11.120 over something called pifos p fas, and those are basically 0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:14.600 microplastics that accumulate in your body. So plastics do break 0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:16.680 down to some degree that gets in the drinking water 0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:19.000 and it's so fine that the filtration systems in the 0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:21.680 carbon it doesn't catch that, and it builds up in 0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:25.279 your body over time and it's a known carcinogen. We 0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:26.920 don't know the long term I mean, I guess we 0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:29.520 do know the long long term effects. But that is 0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:33.400 the current target now for water treatment people like Richard 0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:36.440 to try and eliminate that from our water system, if 0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:40.080 that's indeed possible. Now, Ohio, we're still pretty good considering 0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:44.879 other states New Jersey probably manufacturing and military, Michigan more 0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:48.240 automotive manufacturing, and therefore you have a lot of chemicals 0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:50.719 that are in the groundwater supply, which is why they're 0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:52.319 seeing levels that are over the top. 0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:53.440 Here in Ohio not as much. 0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:55.640 However, I will say that I was looking at two 0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:59.800 of our bigger plants here, the Harris Treatment plant to 0:44:59.840 --> 0:45:02.960 ge it provides about ninety percent of Cincinnati's water. They 0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:05.040 didn't find any measurable levels there, But if you go 0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:09.520 up to Fairfield, the plant there said they were almost 0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:12.320 in the danger zone. It's really not that far away 0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:14.400 as far as distance goes. But how do you describe 0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:17.719 the disparity one plant showing no results the other one. 0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:21.120 The Neil's moving pretty well well, Skot. 0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:24.920 You talked a little bit earlier in our conversation about 0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:28.919 the technology and the level of detections. What I find 0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:33.600 fascinating is through uscpa's research, and to be clear or 0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:37.880 Senko does not work in the toxicology end of things. 0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:42.239 We work in the monitoring response to skills. I spoke 0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:44.720 with you last year about our response to these Palestine 0:45:44.800 --> 0:45:48.280 chemical train derailment still and so our area is working 0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:50.920 on the water quality and one of the challenges we 0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:55.520 have is now UCPA has determined that the levels of 0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:59.960 these are in the parts for quadrulean, and the technology 0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:02.880 to actually measure these are into parts of petroleum. So 0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:05.960 we're trying to find these and levels that are a 0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:11.120 thousand times more stringent then we can actually measure them. 0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:14.560 So it is something that is a challenge. And so 0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:18.040 when you talk about disparities between cretent plants, it's important 0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:22.960 to understand that when USCPA puts together these types of regulations, 0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:27.239 they're looking at a lifetime risk and it's based upon 0:46:28.280 --> 0:46:31.520 an average person around one hundred and fifty pounds, which 0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:35.360 I certainly am over that, but they're looking at consuming 0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:40.200 a half gallon of water every day over seventy years 0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:42.799 and a one in a million increase in cancer risk. 0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:47.720 And we're very fortunate to have this type of work 0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:51.279 to protect us from a risk standpoint, But it is 0:46:51.320 --> 0:46:56.360 important to understand what goes into these types of calculations 0:46:56.640 --> 0:46:58.759 and they are determined in a way to be very 0:46:58.800 --> 0:47:02.040 protective of human hell, so the variations, you know, we're 0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:06.080 talking about parts petrillion, it's really difficult to even measure 0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:10.600 these below four parts petrilliu in terms of accuracy. And 0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:13.239 so this is an evolving science and we're only talking 0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:17.800 about a handful out of four thousand pfus chemicals. So 0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:22.080 it's something that there'll be more work in this USCPA 0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:26.120 every five years does what they. 0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:26.680 Call a. 0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:32.680 Contaminant monitoring process the Safe Drinking Water Act, and there's 0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:35.239 over twenty of these being looked at in the current ones. 0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:37.720 So this is an ongoing effort. 0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:40.320 Richard Harrison, what may ask, are we just trying to 0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:42.560 scare people the compliance and you're telling me the equipment 0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:45.160 we have can't even measure and the great greatest detail 0:47:45.719 --> 0:47:47.319 of what this stuff is in our bodies. I mean, 0:47:47.560 --> 0:47:49.719 let's face it, the air that we breathe, the milk 0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:53.120 that we drink, the food we consume, it all has 0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:55.720 something toxic in it. I mean, you know there's arsenic 0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:57.959 in our food, but it's trace amounts. There's rat poop 0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:00.680 in your cheerios, but it's trace amounts. Is any different. 0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:05.600 I'm very proud to work in a field that is 0:48:05.719 --> 0:48:10.319 so protective. USCPA follows the law to say Drinking Water 0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:13.239 Act when they put this together. I'm not the right 0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:17.480 person to talk about toxic coology. I will say that 0:48:17.640 --> 0:48:20.800 risk is a question and it's something that we have 0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:23.520 to look at. They're doing their job, they're looking at 0:48:23.600 --> 0:48:26.239 the science as where they's drinking water. But as you say, 0:48:26.280 --> 0:48:30.520 there is risk from everything, and so just the water infrastructure. 0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:32.279 You know, I always like to say every dollar we 0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:37.800 invest as customers in a new regulation makes it harder 0:48:37.840 --> 0:48:40.400 to put that dollar in replacement of water bots. And 0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:44.359 so it's something that is very complex and we all 0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:46.480 have to be engaged in this. We have to understand it. 0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:49.920 We're the ones that are paying for this through our 0:48:50.040 --> 0:48:53.200 rates as customers, and I'm knowing working with our utilities, 0:48:53.239 --> 0:48:56.760 we're lucky to have incredible drinking water utilities in our areas. 0:48:56.840 --> 0:49:00.480 So I'm not going to touch a political question. That's 0:49:00.520 --> 0:49:02.880 not where our sinker gets gets involved. But it's a 0:49:02.920 --> 0:49:07.600 fair question to talk about the overall risk and just balancing. 0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:09.640 That because you hear this stuff and people usually it's 0:49:09.719 --> 0:49:12.359 new parents start freaking out about this stuff and they 0:49:12.600 --> 0:49:13.480 start washing there. 0:49:13.560 --> 0:49:15.960 You know, they have their dishwasher. 0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:19.320 Water coming out of a giant bottle of Desani and 0:49:19.440 --> 0:49:22.840 it's cost prohibitive and everything else. If I use like 0:49:22.920 --> 0:49:25.600 a Britta filter on top of my tap water, does 0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:28.160 a Britta filter take this stuff out or reverse osmosis? 0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:32.120 Well, I won't talk about Britta because it's a brand name, 0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:35.839 but I will say that there are filters that can 0:49:35.960 --> 0:49:38.640 be added if if folks want to do that, they can. 0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:42.560 They can certainly contact their their doctors if they're if 0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:45.719 they're concerned about this. So keep in mind that the 0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:50.200 SDA currently is not regulating bottle of water for pifoss 0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:55.120 and so this is very complex. I would I would 0:49:55.200 --> 0:49:59.600 just talk to folks in which I'm doing, and just 0:50:00.280 --> 0:50:04.480 that it's all. It's all about balance, it's understanding how 0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:07.759 complex this is. And USCPA is doing their job, or 0:50:07.800 --> 0:50:12.040 State EPA is Ohio EPA, Kentucky Divisional Water, Indiana Department 0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:15.879 Environment Management, they all work within this area. They're they're 0:50:15.960 --> 0:50:17.440 working as hard as they can on this and This 0:50:17.560 --> 0:50:22.160 is complex and it's all about managing risk in safety 0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:27.000 and following the lulls that that we we have approved 0:50:27.040 --> 0:50:29.520 through Congress, say Drinking Water Act, Clean Water Acting. So 0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:31.880 that's what USCPA is trying to do. They would have 0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:33.520 they would be the ones to talk to you about 0:50:34.080 --> 0:50:37.120 all the science behind it. This is very complex. 0:50:37.160 --> 0:50:38.000 Scott, Yeah, yeah. 0:50:38.040 --> 0:50:40.000 I mean, if if you're so inclined, you know, you 0:50:40.080 --> 0:50:41.839 could do a filter system. I use the word britt 0:50:41.880 --> 0:50:43.800 of because it's like clean X or Jello. It's a 0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:47.359 it's a brand name that's become common. And I look 0:50:47.400 --> 0:50:50.439 at this and go, okay, yeah, look at the risk. 0:50:50.960 --> 0:50:52.359 Listen to what you had to say. You know, you're 0:50:52.400 --> 0:50:54.960 drinking the tap water. You see this stuff under a microscope. 0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:57.160 We don't. And if it's good enough for you, it's 0:50:57.160 --> 0:50:57.840 good enough for me. 0:50:58.000 --> 0:51:00.600 I sleep well knowing that the drinking water being policed 0:51:00.640 --> 0:51:03.120 by yourself, people like yourself, and you're more at the 0:51:03.160 --> 0:51:06.000 source end. We talked during the East Palestine disaster about 0:51:06.280 --> 0:51:08.400 the plume that was traveling down the Ohio River. You 0:51:08.440 --> 0:51:10.560 guys had it all timed out saying, oh, we're tracking it. 0:51:10.640 --> 0:51:11.200 Everything's good. 0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:14.200 It moved out. It dissipated and all is well at 0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:14.839 this point too. 0:51:15.000 --> 0:51:17.480 So if you want to lose sleep over this and 0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:19.800 get down a rabbit hole, I'm sure there's stuff online 0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:22.719 that'll scare the hell out of you. However, it is 0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:25.839 safe to say that most of us aren't one hundred 0:51:25.840 --> 0:51:27.880 and fifty pounds. I would like to talk next to 0:51:28.000 --> 0:51:29.480 if you, I'm gonna have Richard as a guy who 0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:32.319 sets the average weight for Americans because I think he's 0:51:32.320 --> 0:51:32.920 a little drunk. 0:51:35.160 --> 0:51:39.400 Well that's that's the science behind develop these criterias. But 0:51:39.880 --> 0:51:42.000 I'm not near one hundred and fifty pounds. 0:51:42.040 --> 0:51:43.239 I just flew. 0:51:43.800 --> 0:51:45.759 I just flew, and there are maybe two people on 0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:47.320 the plane there were one hundred and fifty pounds, and 0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:48.440 it included the toddlers. 0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:51.719 So yeah, well, I mean it's true. 0:51:51.800 --> 0:51:54.399 So what you're saying is if you weigh more, then 0:51:54.480 --> 0:51:56.640 you can absorb, you can absorb more p foss or 0:51:57.280 --> 0:51:57.920 is that true or. 0:51:59.080 --> 0:52:02.880 I'm not gonna really say that. What I'm saying is 0:52:03.440 --> 0:52:09.120 the background that USCPA uses to complete their studies, and 0:52:09.160 --> 0:52:13.919 so it's important to understand when criteria put out it's 0:52:14.160 --> 0:52:18.480 it's based on a specific methodology that they follow from 0:52:18.520 --> 0:52:19.320 a science basis. 0:52:19.520 --> 0:52:21.239 I was trying to make an excuse and say, see 0:52:21.280 --> 0:52:23.040 that's the upside to obesity. You can. 0:52:24.840 --> 0:52:27.960 Richard Harrison, the executive director, is the chief engineer at 0:52:28.000 --> 0:52:31.879 the Ohio River Valley Water Sanitation Commission. He's the guy 0:52:32.120 --> 0:52:35.480 policing our water sources in and around Ohio and elsewhere. 0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:37.320 And Richard, I appreciate you coming on the show. I 0:52:37.440 --> 0:52:39.640 know I didn't want you talking out over your skis 0:52:39.640 --> 0:52:41.200 a little bit there. I asked you some questions that 0:52:41.280 --> 0:52:43.000 were outside of your scope, but I appreciate you coming 0:52:43.040 --> 0:52:45.439 on and trying to give us a basic understanding whether 0:52:45.520 --> 0:52:46.640 or not our drinking water is safe. 0:52:46.640 --> 0:52:49.319 And it sounds like it is always a pleasure. Scott, 0:52:50.000 --> 0:52:50.319 take care. 0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:52.560 Thank you once again, and we've got a news update 0:52:52.640 --> 0:52:55.320 in just minutes. Here our first Mental Health Monday update. 0:52:55.400 --> 0:52:59.799 Julie Hattershar's next Scott's loan seven hundred w. Everyone needs 0:52:59.840 --> 0:53:03.000 he every now and then, and she'sier to help us 0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:04.040 get our heads right. 0:53:04.920 --> 0:53:08.719 This is Mental Health Monday with Mental health expert Julie Hattershire. Yeah, 0:53:08.760 --> 0:53:09.799 first one of the new year. 0:53:09.880 --> 0:53:12.040 Here we are on the fifth day of January and 0:53:12.239 --> 0:53:15.479 the resolutions have been gone for four and a half days. 0:53:15.560 --> 0:53:19.200 It's awesome. Four and a half days, Julie, welcome back. 0:53:19.239 --> 0:53:20.000 How are you, my friend? 0:53:20.920 --> 0:53:22.520 Hey, I'm great. Happy New Year. 0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:24.879 Yeah, it's just too hard to do those resolutions, lose 0:53:24.920 --> 0:53:28.640 the way to exercise, like, yeah, you know what, I'm good? Well, yeah, 0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:31.520 what you feel like at this point too? Being the 0:53:31.560 --> 0:53:33.080 fifth of January, the year's almost over. 0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:35.399 So till twenty twenty why bother? 0:53:35.719 --> 0:53:38.480 Yeah, yeah, you know, I'll start fresh twenty twenties up? 0:53:38.560 --> 0:53:38.840 Why not? 0:53:39.600 --> 0:53:41.880 That's the big I don't know how many people actually 0:53:41.920 --> 0:53:44.120 do resolutions or try to stick to them, but it's 0:53:44.160 --> 0:53:46.359 our old friend will power. Willpower is a tough mother, 0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:46.759 isn't it. 0:53:47.960 --> 0:53:51.200 Will Power is really hard. It's you know, it is 0:53:51.920 --> 0:53:55.279 easy to start to lose focus on things over the 0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:57.960 course of a day or a week, and will power 0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:01.800 and making decisions consistently is hard. So one of the 0:54:01.880 --> 0:54:03.759 things that I thought we could talk about today is 0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:06.520 what you should put sort of on autopilot and create 0:54:06.640 --> 0:54:09.719 habits around and what you should maybe be more intentional 0:54:09.800 --> 0:54:12.440 and mindful about, because you can't be intentional and mindful 0:54:12.440 --> 0:54:13.359 about everything, all right? 0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:14.040 So what does that mean? 0:54:15.360 --> 0:54:19.279 Well, so there's this concept called decision fatigue, and we 0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:21.879 all wake up with a certain amount of energy every 0:54:21.960 --> 0:54:25.600 day and it varies, right, But the more decisions we 0:54:25.760 --> 0:54:28.040 have to make over the course of a day, the 0:54:28.400 --> 0:54:32.440 more it becomes difficult to make another decision. Just like 0:54:32.600 --> 0:54:34.960 you know, it's a muscle that you use. The more 0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:37.440 you work your muscle, sometimes the harder it becomes to 0:54:37.880 --> 0:54:40.560 continue to do that. So one of the things that 0:54:40.640 --> 0:54:43.640 we wanted to talk about was what are the kinds 0:54:43.640 --> 0:54:46.120 of things that you should build habits around that you 0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:49.160 should put on autopilot and give very little thought to, 0:54:49.680 --> 0:54:51.759 And what are the things that it makes sense to 0:54:51.840 --> 0:54:55.200 be more careful and more mindful about and optimize for 0:54:55.560 --> 0:54:58.760 because you can't put everything on autopilot, and you certainly 0:54:58.880 --> 0:55:02.120 can't be mindful and optimized for everything. And if you 0:55:02.200 --> 0:55:05.200 can decide what to do what with, then that helps 0:55:05.320 --> 0:55:09.000 keeping whatever your resolutions are or reaching whatever your goals are, 0:55:09.080 --> 0:55:10.520 that helps make that a little bit easier. 0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:12.400 Okay, all right, so let's start with that jump in. 0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:13.560 Take me through that. 0:55:13.560 --> 0:55:15.319 Okay, So okay, So. 0:55:16.160 --> 0:55:18.640 What we know about building habits is that it takes 0:55:18.800 --> 0:55:23.680 a few weeks for your brain to wire an activity 0:55:23.800 --> 0:55:27.680 into a habit. The timeline varies, but let's just say. 0:55:27.520 --> 0:55:28.160 A few weeks. 0:55:28.480 --> 0:55:30.680 And so if we think of things like most of 0:55:30.760 --> 0:55:32.600 us brush our teeth at least a couple of times 0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:34.480 a day in the morning and before we go to bed. 0:55:34.560 --> 0:55:35.800 This is not something we think about. 0:55:36.040 --> 0:55:36.719 We just do this. 0:55:37.360 --> 0:55:39.439 That's the kind of habit that we want to build 0:55:39.560 --> 0:55:43.200 around some things, and it takes a few weeks to 0:55:43.280 --> 0:55:45.680 be able to do that. So if one of your resolutions, 0:55:45.719 --> 0:55:47.680 and for many people it is, is to become more 0:55:47.719 --> 0:55:51.640 physically fit, then what you probably need to consider doing 0:55:51.680 --> 0:55:54.360 and is building a routine of building a habit around 0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:56.680 going to the gym or getting up and working out, 0:55:56.880 --> 0:55:59.759 or going after work and working out, whatever your plan is, 0:56:00.160 --> 0:56:03.920 and start doing that consistently for several weeks until it 0:56:04.040 --> 0:56:06.800 becomes automatic. You don't think about it anymore. You're not 0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:07.960 wondering whether you're. 0:56:07.880 --> 0:56:08.279 Going to go. 0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:11.080 You've already got your gym bag passed, your clothes laid out, 0:56:11.440 --> 0:56:15.440 you're ready to rock and roll. And then you've automated that. 0:56:15.760 --> 0:56:18.040 You don't have to think about it anymore. So now 0:56:18.080 --> 0:56:20.480 you have brain power and energy for other things. 0:56:21.239 --> 0:56:22.880 All right, well, that makes sense, right, You lay your 0:56:22.920 --> 0:56:24.520 clothes out, the day before, so you're ready to go. 0:56:24.560 --> 0:56:26.080 It's one last thing you've got to make an excuse 0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:28.160 for the day of, like, oh, I can't find my 0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:31.000 shoes wherever they are, so I'll just skip it today. 0:56:31.080 --> 0:56:33.279 But if it's all ready to go, then you wake 0:56:33.400 --> 0:56:35.160 up and you know you can focus on other things. 0:56:35.239 --> 0:56:39.319 That makes sense exactly so often. Another one that people 0:56:39.400 --> 0:56:41.719 have is they want to eat healthier throughout the week, 0:56:42.160 --> 0:56:44.799 and so one of the things that can be really 0:56:44.840 --> 0:56:47.440 helpful is to come up with ten or twelve dinners 0:56:47.880 --> 0:56:51.400 that you know you like, that you have easy ingredients for, 0:56:51.600 --> 0:56:54.760 and that you know fit your lifestyle and your family's tastes, 0:56:55.200 --> 0:56:59.359 and put those on rotation. So you just run through 0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:03.840 that list. If it's tacos on Tuesday, then it was 0:57:03.880 --> 0:57:06.360 on you on Thursday, then it's something else on Sunday. 0:57:06.800 --> 0:57:08.400 You just run through the list. You don't have to 0:57:08.440 --> 0:57:10.400 wonder what you're going to make. You don't have to 0:57:10.480 --> 0:57:13.680 wonder whether you have the ingredients. You keep everything on hand, 0:57:13.800 --> 0:57:16.400 and you just roll through that. And if you do 0:57:16.600 --> 0:57:18.560 ten or twelve over the course of a month, since 0:57:18.640 --> 0:57:20.840 most people don't eat home every night of the month, 0:57:21.040 --> 0:57:23.360 you're probably only going to have that meal a couple 0:57:23.440 --> 0:57:25.520 of times a months, and if it's something you like, 0:57:25.680 --> 0:57:28.680 that's not a bad thing. But you've automated the dinner process. 0:57:29.640 --> 0:57:32.320 Okay, Well, what about if your problem is portion control? 0:57:32.360 --> 0:57:33.840 Are you just going to eat all five beers in 0:57:33.880 --> 0:57:34.240 one night? 0:57:37.240 --> 0:57:37.760 Now? What do you do? 0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:38.200 Smart? 0:57:38.200 --> 0:57:38.400 Ask? 0:57:38.480 --> 0:57:39.240 Give me an answer to that. 0:57:40.760 --> 0:57:43.360 That's where you need to be more mindful. That's one 0:57:43.400 --> 0:57:45.960 of those decisions, one of those situations where you need 0:57:46.040 --> 0:57:47.520 to be a little more careful and you need to 0:57:47.560 --> 0:57:50.560 think how much should I actually eat? How hungry am I? Truly? 0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:52.600 What have I had over the course of my day 0:57:52.640 --> 0:57:54.920 to day. But if you don't have to autumn, if 0:57:54.960 --> 0:57:56.600 you don't have to think about all of the things 0:57:56.640 --> 0:57:58.200 you're doing over the course of the day, then you 0:57:58.320 --> 0:58:01.560 have more brain power for the things that actually require 0:58:01.720 --> 0:58:04.840 some willpower, some decision making, some care. 0:58:04.760 --> 0:58:05.280 And some thought. 0:58:05.880 --> 0:58:08.920 Okay, Or you could just maybe prepackage the portions up 0:58:08.960 --> 0:58:09.840 and then do it that way too. 0:58:09.840 --> 0:58:12.880 Exactly exactly, and a lot of people do that. They 0:58:13.440 --> 0:58:16.080 do meal prep for breakfast and lunch, They prepackage everything. 0:58:16.160 --> 0:58:18.280 Some people do it for dinner as well, and then 0:58:18.320 --> 0:58:20.560 there's your meal, it's already done. You don't have to 0:58:20.640 --> 0:58:22.840 think about it, and so that's one less thing you 0:58:22.920 --> 0:58:25.200 have to think about, so you can focus on other things, 0:58:25.640 --> 0:58:28.160 put your energy toward other things that actually make a 0:58:28.240 --> 0:58:30.520 positive impact on your life or help you reach your goals. 0:58:30.840 --> 0:58:34.000 Okay, but when we know that that pattern setting takes 0:58:34.000 --> 0:58:36.360 about what good thirty to forty days or something like that. 0:58:36.480 --> 0:58:39.280 True, Yeah, it takes a few weeks. It depends on 0:58:39.360 --> 0:58:41.520 the pattern and depends on how quickly you adapt, but 0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:43.880 it takes a few weeks. And what we know is 0:58:43.960 --> 0:58:47.000 that once the brain has that pattern set, it can 0:58:47.080 --> 0:58:50.360 be really difficult to break, which is why sometimes we 0:58:50.480 --> 0:58:52.960 need to be careful and mindful about the things that 0:58:53.040 --> 0:58:56.120 we already have on autopilot and we need to maybe 0:58:56.160 --> 0:58:58.000 take a look at them and say, is this actually 0:58:58.120 --> 0:59:00.760 serving my goals and my needs? Is this really the 0:59:00.840 --> 0:59:02.960 best way to do it? So, for example, I tend 0:59:03.000 --> 0:59:05.640 to drive to work the same way every day. It 0:59:05.880 --> 0:59:09.640 uses a highway. Sometimes it's full and packed and crowded, 0:59:09.680 --> 0:59:11.960 and sometimes it's not. There actually is a better way 0:59:12.000 --> 0:59:13.680 for me to get to work. I just don't do it. 0:59:14.040 --> 0:59:16.960 So I need to be more mindful about optimizing my 0:59:17.120 --> 0:59:20.400 drive to work and less habitual about that so that 0:59:20.720 --> 0:59:24.360 I end up getting there faster and with less stress. 0:59:25.200 --> 0:59:28.440 Part of this too, you know, as much as creatures 0:59:28.480 --> 0:59:31.480 and habits, our brains actually like some sense of not 0:59:31.640 --> 0:59:33.919 like a new challenge they. 0:59:33.880 --> 0:59:37.920 Do, and brains are energy conserving, they want to do 0:59:38.200 --> 0:59:43.600 things the easiest possible way. But our reward centers are Dopamine, 0:59:43.600 --> 0:59:47.280 which is our reward center of our brain likes new challenges, 0:59:47.520 --> 0:59:53.680 It likes rewards, It likes accomplishment, it likes to be engaged, 0:59:53.920 --> 0:59:58.680 and it likes novelty, and so we tend to crave 0:59:58.920 --> 1:00:04.880 that as much as we tend to crave habitual expectable results. 1:00:05.200 --> 1:00:08.560 And so it's a balance between what are we going 1:00:08.600 --> 1:00:10.920 to reward our brain with dopamine for and what are 1:00:10.960 --> 1:00:13.080 we going to automate so that we have more energy 1:00:13.160 --> 1:00:15.360 and more time available to do the things that actually 1:00:15.440 --> 1:00:18.600 are rewarding to us. Yes, our brains crave. 1:00:18.480 --> 1:00:21.760 Novelty, all right, So we've got to tap into that element. 1:00:21.800 --> 1:00:24.560 But again, after three or four repetitions, or maybe a 1:00:24.600 --> 1:00:27.160 couple of weeks, it becomes a pattern. You just kind 1:00:27.160 --> 1:00:29.960 of fall into it. So it's interesting the way you 1:00:30.040 --> 1:00:31.920 describe that, though it's all set up to succeed, and 1:00:32.000 --> 1:00:33.120 yet we continue to fail. 1:00:33.160 --> 1:00:33.600 Why is that? 1:00:35.480 --> 1:00:39.240 Because I think to some extent, we are habitualizing the 1:00:39.280 --> 1:00:46.040 wrong things and rewarding the habitualizing and rewarding the wrong things. 1:00:46.400 --> 1:00:49.440 So if we look at social media, for example, social 1:00:49.520 --> 1:00:52.000 media is something that many of us habitually go to 1:00:52.200 --> 1:00:54.640 when we have any downtime on our hands at all, 1:00:55.320 --> 1:00:59.080 rather than doing something that might be productive in our lives. 1:00:59.480 --> 1:01:03.000 We scroll, we doom scroll, we Facebook, we instagram, we whatever. 1:01:03.600 --> 1:01:06.920 There are rewards associated with that. We get the dopamine 1:01:07.000 --> 1:01:12.480 hits of the quick fixes of information and pictures and engagement, 1:01:12.920 --> 1:01:15.160 but it actually doesn't serve us very well. So we've 1:01:15.200 --> 1:01:18.480 got the habit of going to social media. It has 1:01:18.600 --> 1:01:22.280 the rewards associated with it, but it isn't actually serving 1:01:22.880 --> 1:01:26.720 our goals, our development, our life in any significant way. 1:01:27.440 --> 1:01:29.560 Although the social media gurus would hate to hear me 1:01:29.600 --> 1:01:29.880 say that. 1:01:30.280 --> 1:01:31.600 That's true, it's true. 1:01:32.840 --> 1:01:35.360 And often the ones that are going to be better 1:01:35.480 --> 1:01:38.000 for you are not ones is enjoyable social media or 1:01:38.520 --> 1:01:40.520 I don't know, drinking or eating, whatever it might be. 1:01:40.600 --> 1:01:42.280 What are your habits, you know, sitting down a TV 1:01:42.400 --> 1:01:45.280 and mindless eating a bag of cheetos for example, that's 1:01:45.320 --> 1:01:47.520 a tough habit to break, it. 1:01:47.640 --> 1:01:50.720 Is, and that's tough because it's got the reward associated 1:01:50.800 --> 1:01:53.320 with the flavor of the cheetos and the mindlessness of 1:01:53.400 --> 1:01:55.880 the TV. But it's got the habitual thing that that's 1:01:55.920 --> 1:01:57.440 what they do when I get home from work, I 1:01:57.520 --> 1:01:59.240 grab a bag of cheetos, they sit down in front 1:01:59.280 --> 1:02:01.000 of the TV, or a crack a beer. I open 1:02:01.080 --> 1:02:02.800 a bottle of wine and pour myself a glass. A 1:02:02.800 --> 1:02:05.160 minute I walk in the door. That's the habit part 1:02:05.240 --> 1:02:08.160 of it, and the reward part of it is the wine, 1:02:08.200 --> 1:02:11.120 the cheetos, the TV, the beer, whatever. And so when 1:02:11.240 --> 1:02:14.240 those two things combine, when you've got the habitual and 1:02:14.440 --> 1:02:18.440 the reward, it becomes very difficult to break because the 1:02:18.640 --> 1:02:22.040 mindlessness of the habit makes it just happen before you've 1:02:22.080 --> 1:02:24.520 even thought about it, and the reward. 1:02:24.280 --> 1:02:26.200 Keeps you coming back for more nature. 1:02:26.280 --> 1:02:30.200 So it's about understanding which one you need to tackle first. 1:02:30.280 --> 1:02:33.400 Do you tackle the reward first, remove the reward, or 1:02:33.440 --> 1:02:36.280 do you tackle the habitual part. Remove the habit and 1:02:36.360 --> 1:02:38.560 make it a more mindful thing, make it harder to 1:02:38.600 --> 1:02:40.440 get the cheetos right right? 1:02:40.560 --> 1:02:43.200 Okay, it just sounds like kind of This is what 1:02:43.640 --> 1:02:45.360 high level athletes do, right, is that. 1:02:48.040 --> 1:02:50.640 You know the automating, the healthy habits it becomes you know, 1:02:50.720 --> 1:02:53.080 you practice and practice and practice. For example, golf swing 1:02:53.240 --> 1:02:55.680 could be throwing a football whatever, and then in a 1:02:55.720 --> 1:02:59.760 game situation, you don't think about it just automatically happens exactly. 1:02:59.880 --> 1:03:03.240 So let's use golf swing for an example. So most 1:03:03.480 --> 1:03:04.880 I don't play golf, but I know a lot of 1:03:04.960 --> 1:03:07.040 people who do, and I know that you do. Have 1:03:07.200 --> 1:03:09.440 you ever changed your grip or tried to change your 1:03:09.480 --> 1:03:10.840 swing all the time? 1:03:11.040 --> 1:03:14.360 I hate my game, okay, okay, and so I think 1:03:14.400 --> 1:03:16.840 I need a psychologist actually probably more than a code. 1:03:18.560 --> 1:03:20.840 At first, that's a really hard thing to do, and 1:03:21.000 --> 1:03:25.280 it feels really awkward and it doesn't feel natural or 1:03:26.320 --> 1:03:28.800 and it doesn't seem to work at first. And then 1:03:28.880 --> 1:03:30.959 the longer you stick with it, the more you build 1:03:31.000 --> 1:03:33.280 the habit, the more practice you build in, the more 1:03:33.360 --> 1:03:38.000 automated and muscle memory it becomes, the more effective and fluid. 1:03:38.200 --> 1:03:41.560 Ideally your swing or your grip becomes. If not, then 1:03:41.600 --> 1:03:43.880 you change it again, but ideally you practice it and 1:03:43.960 --> 1:03:46.680 it becomes and then it becomes automatic. Then you don't 1:03:46.760 --> 1:03:48.840 have to think about it. Then you have taken that 1:03:49.000 --> 1:03:51.920 decision making and that thought process out of it. It's 1:03:51.960 --> 1:03:55.280 now muscle memory. You can just swing. So that's an 1:03:55.360 --> 1:03:58.760 example of taking something that is new, doing it often 1:03:58.920 --> 1:04:01.000 enough that it becomes ahead of it, and then you 1:04:01.080 --> 1:04:02.760 don't have to think about that. You can think about 1:04:02.840 --> 1:04:04.840 other things to do with your golf game. 1:04:05.600 --> 1:04:05.960 That's it. 1:04:06.080 --> 1:04:08.720 You know, I've spoken so elchoin from someone who doesn't golf. 1:04:08.800 --> 1:04:11.480 You just don't understand how easy and important to get 1:04:11.520 --> 1:04:12.160 in your own head. 1:04:12.200 --> 1:04:13.520 It's one they go, well, your. 1:04:13.440 --> 1:04:15.520 Practice and practice you just become second nature and you 1:04:15.640 --> 1:04:16.880 just go out there and then no, you don't. You 1:04:16.920 --> 1:04:19.520 sit there and you obsess about every little thing in 1:04:19.560 --> 1:04:21.240 your swing and your back swing and your grip and 1:04:21.280 --> 1:04:23.240 all these things, and it totally closed your head and 1:04:23.240 --> 1:04:24.200 you're shank into the woods. 1:04:26.680 --> 1:04:28.640 Actually, I do know that I was married to the 1:04:28.720 --> 1:04:30.520 golfer for a long time and I know a lot 1:04:30.600 --> 1:04:32.520 of them. It is it is a game that gets 1:04:32.560 --> 1:04:34.920 in your head, isn't it. And so the more that 1:04:35.160 --> 1:04:40.000 you can habitualize and ritualize things, because this is another 1:04:40.080 --> 1:04:43.000 thing that all leave lead athletes do. They ritualize things. 1:04:43.080 --> 1:04:45.000 You see it all the time when guys go up 1:04:45.040 --> 1:04:48.000 to do free throws in basketball, they have their little routine. 1:04:48.120 --> 1:04:50.360 They bounce it, bounce it, spin in their hands, bounce it, 1:04:50.480 --> 1:04:53.360 bounce it, throw And that's how they set their body 1:04:53.440 --> 1:04:55.360 up to know what's going to happen. And I'm sure 1:04:55.400 --> 1:04:57.360 you do that in your golf game too, when you 1:04:57.400 --> 1:04:59.280 get up to the te to address the ball, you 1:04:59.400 --> 1:05:01.640 do the things, wiggle your feet, you do whatever it 1:05:01.760 --> 1:05:03.720 is you do to get your body ready to do 1:05:03.840 --> 1:05:06.440 what it knows it needs to do next. And so 1:05:06.640 --> 1:05:09.480 the more you can really allow for that to happen, 1:05:09.960 --> 1:05:13.280 the freer your brain can become. But I'm not saying 1:05:13.360 --> 1:05:15.600 it's easy. I'm just saying it's possible. 1:05:15.920 --> 1:05:18.720 Right Well, this time of year, Julie hattersh here comes 1:05:18.800 --> 1:05:20.000 down and talking about mental health. 1:05:20.040 --> 1:05:21.000 It comes down to. 1:05:22.680 --> 1:05:25.320 For most people, diet and exercises are two big ones. 1:05:25.720 --> 1:05:27.960 And it may be I don't know, coming up being 1:05:28.000 --> 1:05:30.760 better about money, for example, use that one as an 1:05:30.800 --> 1:05:32.640 office that one. All right, We always talk about diet 1:05:32.680 --> 1:05:35.400 and exercise, and it's no one how many people it 1:05:35.480 --> 1:05:39.360 comes a habit. You like to ride peloton and those 1:05:39.480 --> 1:05:41.280 and it becomes you know, it becomes a habit after 1:05:41.280 --> 1:05:43.480 a while, but it's hard at first. But there's a 1:05:43.520 --> 1:05:47.120 physical thing. What about something like like being better financially, 1:05:47.200 --> 1:05:49.520 How does that work well. 1:05:50.680 --> 1:05:52.680 One of the things that you can do to help 1:05:52.720 --> 1:05:55.680 yourself be better financially is to automate a lot of 1:05:55.760 --> 1:05:58.040 your financial processes so that you don't have to talk. 1:05:59.080 --> 1:06:01.680 So you can automate money going directly into a savings 1:06:01.720 --> 1:06:04.720 account from your paycheck or from your bank account. You 1:06:04.800 --> 1:06:07.360 can automate having your bills paid so that you don't 1:06:07.400 --> 1:06:10.720 have to touch them. You can automate some things coming 1:06:10.760 --> 1:06:12.680 out of your checking account instead of going on your 1:06:12.720 --> 1:06:14.880 credit cards, so you don't have a big credit card 1:06:14.960 --> 1:06:17.280 bill at the end of the month. The less you 1:06:17.440 --> 1:06:20.320 have to actually think about it, the more systems you 1:06:20.520 --> 1:06:23.600 set up, the better. James clear who wrote this really 1:06:23.680 --> 1:06:25.920 wonderful book, Atomic Habits, and he's a guy, he's a 1:06:25.960 --> 1:06:29.040 local guy, he's from Hamilton. He says, we don't rise 1:06:29.240 --> 1:06:31.680 to the level of our goals, we fall to the 1:06:31.800 --> 1:06:35.560 level of our systems, which I love. I just think 1:06:35.600 --> 1:06:37.720 that's a brilliant thing to say. And so the more 1:06:37.840 --> 1:06:40.560 systems you set up to take care of these things 1:06:40.680 --> 1:06:44.320 for you, the less inclined you are and the less 1:06:44.400 --> 1:06:48.040 able you will be to impulsively buy something. If you 1:06:48.120 --> 1:06:50.680 don't have the money in your bank account, you're less 1:06:50.720 --> 1:06:53.120 inclined to impulsively buy it. If you have a lower 1:06:53.200 --> 1:06:55.360 limit on your credit cards and you can ask them 1:06:55.640 --> 1:06:58.320 to lower your credit card limit, the less inclined you 1:06:58.440 --> 1:07:01.600 are to impulsively buy something big. So you can set 1:07:01.680 --> 1:07:06.120 up systems to guard rail your spending choices, if that's 1:07:06.160 --> 1:07:08.400 something that you want to work on in the coming year. 1:07:08.560 --> 1:07:09.080 Very interesting. 1:07:09.120 --> 1:07:11.840 She's Julie Hattershare, license, mental health therapist here in Sinncia. 1:07:11.840 --> 1:07:14.040 It's mental Health Monday, first one this new year, and 1:07:14.480 --> 1:07:18.520 this one is about patterns and failure and how to 1:07:18.680 --> 1:07:20.720 come up with something that's going to stick in the 1:07:20.760 --> 1:07:23.160 new year, regardless of it is because willpower does fade. 1:07:23.200 --> 1:07:25.480 But if you are like an athlete that I'll say 1:07:25.520 --> 1:07:27.400 practice is that free throw over and over and over 1:07:27.440 --> 1:07:29.680 again once you get out to play it actually said, 1:07:29.760 --> 1:07:32.720 it's so ingrained in your pattern to behavior automatically do things, 1:07:32.840 --> 1:07:35.160 and you can't apply that to the rest of your life. 1:07:35.240 --> 1:07:38.200 What's things like healthy habits for example, So what happens 1:07:38.240 --> 1:07:41.240 when automatic fails? Though there are times where you have 1:07:41.400 --> 1:07:43.800 things set on autopilot and all of a sudden it 1:07:43.920 --> 1:07:45.040 just doesn't work for you anymore. 1:07:45.120 --> 1:07:45.560 What about that? 1:07:46.640 --> 1:07:49.280 Well, then maybe you need to reevaluate if that was, 1:07:49.720 --> 1:07:52.360 If that still is the right autopilot for you to have, 1:07:52.920 --> 1:07:54.640 maybe you need to take a look. This is a 1:07:54.720 --> 1:07:57.040 time that you may need to take a more mindful 1:07:57.120 --> 1:08:00.920 look at something you've consistently done habitually. Is that actually 1:08:01.000 --> 1:08:03.000 the best way to do it now? Maybe it served 1:08:03.080 --> 1:08:06.320 me then whatever then was, Maybe it doesn't serve me now, 1:08:06.720 --> 1:08:10.320 So take a look, evaluate, assess what other options there 1:08:10.400 --> 1:08:13.440 might be, see what else might work better for you. 1:08:13.880 --> 1:08:16.680 Make some changes, and you will be able to do 1:08:16.880 --> 1:08:21.240 that more easily because you freed up mental energy and 1:08:21.520 --> 1:08:26.519 time from automating and sort of habitualizing and ritualizing other 1:08:26.640 --> 1:08:29.400 things in your life that you can say, Okay, this's working, 1:08:29.520 --> 1:08:32.400 and now this isn't making sense for me anymore, So 1:08:32.800 --> 1:08:34.920 what can I do differently? How can I take a 1:08:34.960 --> 1:08:37.240 look at doing that? And you'll have experience to back 1:08:37.320 --> 1:08:39.200 that up. You can take a look at what other 1:08:39.280 --> 1:08:41.360 options you might have and see if any of them 1:08:41.360 --> 1:08:44.760 would be better for you. Not everything works all the time. 1:08:44.920 --> 1:08:47.240 It's not a question of you set it and leave it. 1:08:47.920 --> 1:08:49.439 But you set it and leave it until it doesn't 1:08:49.479 --> 1:08:51.960 work for you anymore, and then you reevaluate and say, 1:08:52.000 --> 1:08:54.080 what could I be doing differently going forward from here? 1:08:54.240 --> 1:08:57.760 Okay, sounds easier said than done. Julie had or share 1:08:57.800 --> 1:08:58.360 that license? 1:08:58.360 --> 1:08:58.720 Well it is. 1:08:58.840 --> 1:09:00.080 It's easy to say. 1:09:00.840 --> 1:09:04.000 Licensed metal health therapist out of Clifton at be Connected 1:09:04.040 --> 1:09:05.760 dot care. You can reach her if you've got a 1:09:05.920 --> 1:09:09.439 maybe a subject for a future conversation, idea problem you're having. Hey, 1:09:09.560 --> 1:09:12.479 Julie at the letter B that's be Connected at dot care. 1:09:12.600 --> 1:09:15.280 She joins to show Monday Mornings on metal Health Monday. 1:09:15.320 --> 1:09:17.040 All the best, Thanks again, looking forward to a great 1:09:17.040 --> 1:09:20.680 new year, me too, be well with news on the 1:09:20.720 --> 1:09:22.759 way in just a couple of minutes when to return. 1:09:23.040 --> 1:09:26.400 At eleven oh seven, Scott Angeel is here. He's from 1:09:26.439 --> 1:09:30.080 the Bayu. He's an oil man himself, oil expert. And 1:09:30.200 --> 1:09:33.840 what does this venezuela mean? Venezuela mean? Okay, So we're 1:09:33.880 --> 1:09:36.760 going to run the country, presumably to get oil out 1:09:36.800 --> 1:09:39.040 of the ground, which has already been stated by the President, 1:09:39.560 --> 1:09:42.080 Marco Ruby and everyone else. And we're going and take 1:09:42.120 --> 1:09:45.479 those resources out outside of managing the country, which is 1:09:45.479 --> 1:09:47.840 a whole different beast entirely. Let's say we actually do that. 1:09:48.160 --> 1:09:51.640 What incentive is there for oil companies to go to Venezuela? 1:09:51.760 --> 1:09:54.679 I mean think about this way. You have the premium 1:09:54.720 --> 1:09:57.080 basin here in the United States, uh, and we know 1:09:57.160 --> 1:10:00.960 that's not going anywhere whereas with Venezuela if the political 1:10:01.000 --> 1:10:03.080 wins shift, if we don't do what we think we 1:10:03.200 --> 1:10:06.360 want to do or have the the FRUI should do 1:10:06.439 --> 1:10:09.360 that make it come to fruition. Are these companies going 1:10:09.400 --> 1:10:11.799 to go there and invest tens of billions of dollars 1:10:11.920 --> 1:10:14.200 for something they might not get a return on investment. 1:10:14.280 --> 1:10:16.240 And with oil prices being as well as they are 1:10:16.320 --> 1:10:19.600 right now, is there incentive for oil companies to go 1:10:19.760 --> 1:10:22.200 to Venezuela and do with the President hopes. 1:10:21.960 --> 1:10:22.759 A lot of questions. 1:10:22.920 --> 1:10:24.960 He has the answers for you coming up after news 1:10:25.040 --> 1:10:28.080 update next Scott'sland showing the home of the best Bengals coverage. 1:10:28.080 --> 1:10:29.639 By the way, Mike Brown, if you have not heard, 1:10:29.680 --> 1:10:33.560 releasing a statement just a little while ago saying that 1:10:33.760 --> 1:10:37.120 the focus of the team is building a consistent competitive 1:10:37.160 --> 1:10:40.920 ball club and after thoughtful consideration, he writes, I'm confident 1:10:41.000 --> 1:10:43.519 that Duke Tobin and Zach Taylor are the right leaders 1:10:43.560 --> 1:10:45.560 to goud US forward. They've proven they can build and 1:10:45.640 --> 1:10:48.400 league teams and compete for championships. We take a hard 1:10:48.439 --> 1:10:50.040 look at everything we do as your approach US off 1:10:50.160 --> 1:10:53.439 season with determination to build a championship caliber roster that 1:10:53.600 --> 1:10:57.479 wins consistently. From the words of Mike Brown, Bengals President, 1:10:57.600 --> 1:11:00.320 Duke Tobin and Zach Taylor. On going anywhere. With the 1:11:00.400 --> 1:11:03.840 news that Kevin Stefanski has been fired by Cleveland, take 1:11:03.920 --> 1:11:06.559 that what you will. Scott's Loan seven hundred WWT Since. 1:11:06.439 --> 1:11:08.360 Nat do you want to be an American? 1:11:10.000 --> 1:11:14.200 Scott's Loan Shows seven hundred wlwshow. With the US forced 1:11:14.240 --> 1:11:17.920 regime change and the arrest of Maduro, President Trump said 1:11:17.920 --> 1:11:20.439 the US is going to run Venezuela and oil companies 1:11:20.600 --> 1:11:22.559 are going to enter the country to the start rebuilding 1:11:22.640 --> 1:11:25.519 their oil drilling infrastructure and begin selling oil at even 1:11:25.600 --> 1:11:29.960 cheaper prices. Only problem is oil is still relatively cheap. 1:11:30.000 --> 1:11:32.760 What does this all this mean? Scott Igiel is down 1:11:32.800 --> 1:11:35.599 on the Bayou this morning in Louisiana. He's with USA 1:11:35.760 --> 1:11:38.280 Energy Worker's former Lieutenant Governor of the Great State of Louisiana. 1:11:38.320 --> 1:11:39.960 Scott, welcome back. How you been happy new year? 1:11:40.880 --> 1:11:43.280 I am great. It is good to hear you, boy 1:11:43.320 --> 1:11:44.080 Scott's Spector. 1:11:44.160 --> 1:11:46.599 Shout out to Cincinnati, appreciate all the good work you're 1:11:46.640 --> 1:11:48.479 doing and happy to join the show this morning. 1:11:48.560 --> 1:11:50.479 What happened to your guy Joe Burrow this year? By 1:11:50.560 --> 1:11:51.960 the way, Well, you know. 1:11:52.000 --> 1:11:53.720 If you could get me an offensive line over there 1:11:53.760 --> 1:11:55.479 in Cincinnati, we could get you a two rings. 1:11:55.760 --> 1:11:56.880 We can't do everything for you. 1:11:57.160 --> 1:11:58.479 Can you give me an offensive line? 1:11:58.520 --> 1:11:59.840 Brother? I just need some. 1:12:00.479 --> 1:12:01.479 Well, you got yone. 1:12:01.880 --> 1:12:04.240 You know, you got Chase and you got Burrow. Generally 1:12:04.320 --> 1:12:06.040 you go to the playoffs it's just those two. But 1:12:06.160 --> 1:12:08.960 you've got a thousand yard rusher. We've got a guy 1:12:09.040 --> 1:12:11.040 named t Higgins who's pretty damn good as well. And 1:12:11.400 --> 1:12:12.880 explain to me how the hell you can't make the 1:12:12.920 --> 1:12:14.000 playoffs with that lineup? 1:12:15.040 --> 1:12:16.160 Yeah, I know, I'll tell you, boy. 1:12:16.240 --> 1:12:18.479 We uh you know we we uh we I'll think 1:12:18.560 --> 1:12:20.920 over here, but I'll tell you what when the when 1:12:20.960 --> 1:12:21.600 the Bengals on. 1:12:22.000 --> 1:12:25.160 Uh, It's it's hard to pull against Joe Burrow. 1:12:25.240 --> 1:12:28.800 What a tremendous individual that brought a lot of credibility 1:12:28.840 --> 1:12:32.120 and fame to l issue with that undefeated national championship run. 1:12:32.760 --> 1:12:35.240 We'll wish you all the best there in Cincinnati. We 1:12:35.320 --> 1:12:38.320 know we got some great days coming. Jose Oh Warrior, 1:12:38.400 --> 1:12:41.280 he just stood and don't give up. A great days 1:12:41.320 --> 1:12:43.240 ahead for Cincinnati Bengals, no doubt. 1:12:43.240 --> 1:12:45.599 All right, Scott, let's get down to it. We take 1:12:45.720 --> 1:12:48.320 Maduro out. He's actually in uh. I guess it could 1:12:48.360 --> 1:12:49.920 be a rain. He's being ranked today as a matter 1:12:49.960 --> 1:12:52.960 of fact as we speak. But now this opens things 1:12:53.040 --> 1:12:56.519 up in Venezuela as far as oil companies go. The 1:12:56.520 --> 1:12:59.200 only problem with this logic, I think from your perspective 1:12:59.240 --> 1:13:02.200 here keeping the pollics out, but keeping the it's about money, 1:13:02.240 --> 1:13:04.200 it's about oil, and let's just say that it was 1:13:04.240 --> 1:13:06.920 a pretext the drugs, a pretext to get the oil. 1:13:07.040 --> 1:13:09.920 But with oil prices as low as they are right now, 1:13:11.160 --> 1:13:14.760 is there incentive for us, you know, drillers and these 1:13:14.800 --> 1:13:19.240 big companies to go into Venezuela considering the political climate there, 1:13:19.240 --> 1:13:22.200 because you're talking about you know, billions and billions of dollars. 1:13:23.200 --> 1:13:24.640 Is that why it's hard to find someone to go 1:13:24.720 --> 1:13:26.000 in there right now, because they don't know what the 1:13:26.000 --> 1:13:27.400 future is going to bring us in it just safe 1:13:27.439 --> 1:13:29.000 for to invest in the permium basin here in the 1:13:29.080 --> 1:13:29.639 United States. 1:13:30.520 --> 1:13:31.559 Yeah, I think that's right. 1:13:31.640 --> 1:13:34.759 I think at the end of the day, right business 1:13:34.960 --> 1:13:37.800 or capital is deployed where capital is pret well, where 1:13:37.840 --> 1:13:41.360 there's stability and there's an opportunity for a return. And 1:13:41.640 --> 1:13:43.680 when you look at a third world country like Venezuela, 1:13:43.720 --> 1:13:46.800 you often want to whether or not that American dollar 1:13:46.920 --> 1:13:50.479 can can flow there and get a return. So look, 1:13:50.520 --> 1:13:53.000 I think there's a lot of headlines out there about oil, 1:13:53.120 --> 1:13:54.880 about drugs and about running. 1:13:54.680 --> 1:13:55.519 Venezuela and all that. 1:13:55.600 --> 1:13:58.720 We'll see a haul that wolves out and that will, 1:13:58.880 --> 1:14:01.920 you know, unfold here in several than several months. Let 1:14:01.960 --> 1:14:04.720 me just say this, much that you know, Venezuelan and 1:14:04.760 --> 1:14:07.320 oil is not showing up in the market in America tomorrow, 1:14:07.520 --> 1:14:10.160 even by the summertime. What I can tell you is 1:14:10.240 --> 1:14:12.880 that what we have witness in this country in twenty 1:14:12.960 --> 1:14:16.679 twenty five is what we call the Great Energy Pivot 1:14:16.720 --> 1:14:19.519 of twenty twenty five. We have seen a country go 1:14:19.680 --> 1:14:24.080 from energy defense to energy offense. We've seen this country 1:14:24.200 --> 1:14:27.360 begin to embrace all forms of energy and bring back 1:14:27.400 --> 1:14:32.599 some common sense to energy policy. And that's credible because 1:14:32.680 --> 1:14:35.800 not only is it good for USA energy workers, it's 1:14:35.840 --> 1:14:40.559 absolutely great for the American consumer. Right the current average 1:14:41.320 --> 1:14:43.840 of gasline right now about twenty and eighty one cents. 1:14:44.120 --> 1:14:45.679 A year ago was three h six. 1:14:46.360 --> 1:14:48.479 It's much lower than the record break and higher that 1:14:48.560 --> 1:14:52.280 we saw at and twenty and twenty two. So look, 1:14:52.920 --> 1:14:56.280 what I would say is that Venezuela is a big asterisk, 1:14:56.360 --> 1:14:59.400 and we'll see how they're unfolds. Our focus continues to 1:14:59.479 --> 1:15:01.760 be on the deployment of capital, as you say, in 1:15:01.840 --> 1:15:06.920 the Permian Basin, in Alaska, in California, in Oklahoma, in Ohio, 1:15:07.240 --> 1:15:13.200 in Louisiana, where we know that we've experienced six recessions 1:15:13.240 --> 1:15:15.799 from nineteen seventy three to twenty nineteen in this country, 1:15:16.080 --> 1:15:19.320 and all of them have been preceded by spiking energey prices. 1:15:19.680 --> 1:15:20.879 So if you want to get. 1:15:20.760 --> 1:15:23.840 An economy rolling, job one is to make sure you 1:15:24.000 --> 1:15:26.880 have access to affordable energy. Nobody does it better than 1:15:26.920 --> 1:15:28.920 the Red, White, and Blue. And look, Ohio was a 1:15:28.960 --> 1:15:32.240 perfect example. I mean, you top ten in gas, you 1:15:32.360 --> 1:15:35.080 top ten in ukula, you top ten in electricity, or 1:15:35.080 --> 1:15:37.280 how do you get it? And not only do you 1:15:37.360 --> 1:15:40.360 consume a lot, but you actually export some of that. 1:15:40.439 --> 1:15:41.120 To other states. 1:15:41.160 --> 1:15:44.280 So we're proud of what Ohio does for the nation 1:15:44.400 --> 1:15:48.680 when it comes to energy. Our football seasons, both for 1:15:48.760 --> 1:15:51.360 you and me, this year didn't go like we wanted, 1:15:51.479 --> 1:15:53.559 but we're still proud of our energy forces, Right. 1:15:53.680 --> 1:15:56.679 Scott, I deal with the USA energy workers and what's 1:15:56.720 --> 1:15:59.200 happening in Venezuela and how that relates to the US 1:15:59.280 --> 1:16:02.360 markets here at least US operations when it comes to drilling. 1:16:02.680 --> 1:16:05.439 I think that is it, Chevron. I believe you tell 1:16:05.479 --> 1:16:07.200 me that they they've been in there for like one 1:16:07.240 --> 1:16:10.000 hundred years in Venezuela. But get in the money from 1:16:10.040 --> 1:16:12.839 these other companies, from the Exons, from the Chinical phillips 1:16:12.880 --> 1:16:15.800 Is of the world, the Haliburtons of the world. It 1:16:15.880 --> 1:16:17.320 seems to me you just keep that money in the 1:16:17.439 --> 1:16:21.519 United States in those companies. Notorious. You know there's a 1:16:21.560 --> 1:16:23.479 break even point right now you can talk more about 1:16:23.520 --> 1:16:25.840 this is that you know, we want cheap gas, but 1:16:26.320 --> 1:16:29.880 not too cheap because it's awfully expensive to get that 1:16:30.040 --> 1:16:32.240 out of the ground. So there's got to be a 1:16:32.600 --> 1:16:35.280 profit margin and a profit margin for you guys. And 1:16:35.439 --> 1:16:38.519 so if we saturate the world with Venezuela. With cheaper oil, 1:16:38.760 --> 1:16:41.200 there's no incentive to drill and invest that money. 1:16:41.320 --> 1:16:44.040 Right, Well, look, I think you make some good points, 1:16:44.120 --> 1:16:49.280 and clearly, you know we would say is that none 1:16:49.360 --> 1:16:52.040 of us, none of us want cheap energy. 1:16:52.160 --> 1:16:54.120 We all want affordable energy. 1:16:54.760 --> 1:16:58.200 Access to affordable energy is the key, and there is 1:16:58.280 --> 1:17:00.639 a balance there, right, and the market will always find 1:17:00.720 --> 1:17:01.320 that balance. 1:17:02.080 --> 1:17:04.679 At the USA Energy Workers we always speak. 1:17:04.520 --> 1:17:07.040 To the balance of the three e's. We believe there 1:17:07.040 --> 1:17:09.599 are three important e's, much like a three legged bar 1:17:09.680 --> 1:17:11.960 stool that we have to focus on when it comes 1:17:11.960 --> 1:17:15.720 to domestic energy policy. Obviously, energy resources is one of 1:17:15.760 --> 1:17:19.040 those e's. Environment nobody does it better than the red, white, 1:17:19.040 --> 1:17:21.040 and blue, so obviously we're going to do it better 1:17:21.080 --> 1:17:22.800 for the environment here, then we're going to do it 1:17:22.880 --> 1:17:26.000 in other places. And then of course the economy. You know, 1:17:26.560 --> 1:17:33.200 the environmental E is blue, the energy the energy is red. 1:17:33.880 --> 1:17:37.840 The economic E is purple. It's not red or blue, 1:17:38.000 --> 1:17:40.840 it's purple and cloves across all states. And we believe 1:17:40.920 --> 1:17:44.360 when American policy balances those three e's, we end up 1:17:44.360 --> 1:17:48.120 with some really strong results. Again, we experienced that in 1:17:48.200 --> 1:17:51.080 twenty twenty five with the pivot from all of government 1:17:51.200 --> 1:17:55.080 war on domestic energy, to all of government's support or 1:17:55.160 --> 1:17:57.880 domestic energy. And one of the things that happened, you know, 1:17:58.280 --> 1:18:00.960 late last year that I think they list and would 1:18:01.000 --> 1:18:04.240 be interested in, is that we had a lease sale 1:18:04.320 --> 1:18:06.080 in the Gulf of America. It was the first le 1:18:06.200 --> 1:18:09.479 sale we had this twenty twenty three. It was mandated 1:18:09.520 --> 1:18:12.160 by the One Big Beautiful Bill. It's referred to as 1:18:12.240 --> 1:18:15.400 Big Beautiful Gulf one lease sale. It had a lot 1:18:15.520 --> 1:18:18.120 of interest. It generated propertly two hundred and eighty million 1:18:18.200 --> 1:18:21.120 dollars in hot bid across one hundred and eighty one blocks. 1:18:21.439 --> 1:18:24.240 The Gulf of America has traditionally represented about one in 1:18:24.360 --> 1:18:28.160 every six barrels of oil produced in America for over 1:18:28.280 --> 1:18:32.360 half a century, you know, Scott, both presidents of both 1:18:32.439 --> 1:18:36.760 parties have embraced the Gulf of America as a significant 1:18:36.800 --> 1:18:40.599 part of the American energy portfolio. We want to do more, 1:18:40.720 --> 1:18:44.320 We can do more. We think this administration is headed 1:18:44.320 --> 1:18:46.479 in the right direction, kind of taking off some of 1:18:46.560 --> 1:18:50.880 the change that have held us back yere. And so 1:18:50.960 --> 1:18:52.760 we're looking forward to this twenty twenty six in a 1:18:52.800 --> 1:18:53.200 big way. 1:18:53.680 --> 1:18:56.280 Yeah, And that was part of the two in December 1:18:56.640 --> 1:18:58.760 last year you had the Golf of America off shore 1:18:58.880 --> 1:19:00.640 lease sale and the first so I think we had 1:19:00.640 --> 1:19:02.960 in a couple of years mandated by the One Big 1:19:03.000 --> 1:19:05.640 Beautiful Bill. As you said too in the Golf, how 1:19:05.680 --> 1:19:07.519 many more of those leases are going to become available? 1:19:08.479 --> 1:19:10.960 Well, you know what, what basically the One Big Beautiful 1:19:11.680 --> 1:19:17.839 Bill did is mandated thirty different leaf tales into the future. 1:19:17.880 --> 1:19:22.120 So again, leasdale is an event, uh, that that is scheduled, 1:19:22.160 --> 1:19:25.080 that is public public is it has to go through 1:19:25.120 --> 1:19:28.080 a variety of environmental reviews to be able to get there. 1:19:28.640 --> 1:19:28.760 Uh. 1:19:29.120 --> 1:19:32.280 But in the past we kind of left some of 1:19:32.400 --> 1:19:35.120 that up to the administration. And I think we found 1:19:35.200 --> 1:19:39.320 out that in the previous administration was playing games, if 1:19:39.360 --> 1:19:41.760 you would, with with lease sales. And so the Big 1:19:41.760 --> 1:19:45.080 Beautiful Bill just kind of came in and mandated native 1:19:45.120 --> 1:19:46.280 the law that you got to have. 1:19:46.400 --> 1:19:47.120 These lead sales. 1:19:47.360 --> 1:19:49.280 So they will be a significant amount of lease sales 1:19:49.320 --> 1:19:51.479 that happened not only in the go but it will 1:19:51.520 --> 1:19:53.479 happen in the Pacific and as well as the Artic 1:19:53.840 --> 1:19:58.479 and and that's good, that's good news for American consumer. Again, 1:19:58.560 --> 1:20:00.160 one of the things that we you know, we we 1:20:00.320 --> 1:20:02.559 like to repeat when we talk to our national audience, 1:20:03.120 --> 1:20:09.600 is that there are no wealthy, low energy. 1:20:10.080 --> 1:20:11.960 Consuming nations on the planet. 1:20:12.040 --> 1:20:15.639 Let me repeat that there are no wealthy, low energy 1:20:15.880 --> 1:20:19.200 consuming nations on the planet. Got it in a lot 1:20:19.240 --> 1:20:22.200 of ways, In a lot of ways, Scott's energy consumption 1:20:22.960 --> 1:20:28.120 has become a proxy for human prosperity, and so having 1:20:28.280 --> 1:20:32.519 access to affordable energy just means that's obviously they had 1:20:32.600 --> 1:20:35.519 much more prosperity available and uh and again here on 1:20:35.600 --> 1:20:38.720 the Golf Coast. But we believe that every state has 1:20:38.800 --> 1:20:40.680 a role to make this union as great as it 1:20:40.760 --> 1:20:43.519 can be, and the Golf Coast we certainly recognize that 1:20:43.640 --> 1:20:46.479 one of our roles, in addition to having a good 1:20:46.520 --> 1:20:48.960 time here, is to make sure that this country has 1:20:49.000 --> 1:20:53.439 the energy in need. And you know, whether it's Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, 1:20:53.840 --> 1:20:55.240 we highly focus and we kick and. 1:20:55.280 --> 1:20:58.200 Ask he's Scott a gild USA energy workers on the 1:20:58.200 --> 1:21:01.200 show this morning, And obviously to take over Venezuela and 1:21:01.360 --> 1:21:03.960 the oil operations there, and that's a long time coming. 1:21:04.040 --> 1:21:06.599 By the way, I don't think you can find anyone 1:21:06.640 --> 1:21:08.760 who's well. You can always find people are angry that 1:21:08.840 --> 1:21:11.280 we topp up a durero. But the pretext it was 1:21:11.280 --> 1:21:14.479 about drugs, and it's actually about oil. And in this case, though, 1:21:14.600 --> 1:21:16.360 it's kind of like you made a case for not 1:21:16.560 --> 1:21:19.880 invading Venezuela and taking over oil because you said, what, 1:21:19.960 --> 1:21:22.920 we're getting thirty leases that are going to be available 1:21:23.080 --> 1:21:27.400 to oil producers. That's less incentive than for them to 1:21:27.560 --> 1:21:28.560 invest in Venezuela. 1:21:29.880 --> 1:21:34.680 Well, look, I believe, probably contrary to some of the 1:21:34.800 --> 1:21:38.439 pubalic comments, I really believe this was about drugs. 1:21:38.880 --> 1:21:42.400 I do really believe that that is. 1:21:42.479 --> 1:21:44.640 Being played out in the media in different ways. But 1:21:44.720 --> 1:21:48.280 I do believe that this was about the importation of 1:21:48.800 --> 1:21:52.640 drugs into society of America that is absolutely ruining a 1:21:52.760 --> 1:21:56.360 generation and making it very difficult for families. And So 1:21:57.000 --> 1:22:00.360 while there's again a lot of comments and it's about oil, 1:22:00.520 --> 1:22:04.920 it's about just about this. I personally believes that there 1:22:05.000 --> 1:22:08.479 is no substitute for the USA energy worker. There's no 1:22:08.600 --> 1:22:13.720 substitute for real strong energy production from this country. We've 1:22:13.800 --> 1:22:16.200 seen it this look, this country is not going to 1:22:17.560 --> 1:22:22.919 forget the lessons of early seventies where we got ourselves 1:22:22.960 --> 1:22:28.040 in position to rely on foreign producers, and we saw 1:22:28.120 --> 1:22:30.280 what happened in my nineteen seventy three with the Arab 1:22:30.320 --> 1:22:34.760 oil ago and and we learned that lesson, and we 1:22:34.960 --> 1:22:39.800 quickly went from being a slack producer to the number 1:22:39.840 --> 1:22:44.120 one producer in the in the world. Today America is 1:22:44.160 --> 1:22:47.280 the number one oil producer in the world. Okay, and 1:22:48.760 --> 1:22:53.360 this I believe our country has learned that lesson, and 1:22:53.520 --> 1:22:56.519 we are not going back to those days certainly. Look, 1:22:56.560 --> 1:23:00.639 I think you know, getting rid of anyone who imports 1:23:00.760 --> 1:23:04.680 drugs into this country for for kids, uh, and for 1:23:04.800 --> 1:23:09.080 their own self wealth is a detriment to society. 1:23:09.240 --> 1:23:12.080 So for that, uh, I'm pleased to see that. 1:23:12.360 --> 1:23:15.920 Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, I agree it destroys society, 1:23:16.000 --> 1:23:17.800 but I mean the bulk of the drugs aren't coming 1:23:17.840 --> 1:23:18.680 from Venezuela. 1:23:19.880 --> 1:23:20.640 But you know, it. 1:23:22.439 --> 1:23:23.280 Does, it does. 1:23:24.720 --> 1:23:27.200 I would say also on this one, Scott angel is 1:23:27.360 --> 1:23:29.720 that maybe this, you know, if it works out, and 1:23:30.280 --> 1:23:32.920 as we know, it often doesn't, but sometimes it does. 1:23:33.000 --> 1:23:35.040 And that is regime change at the hands of the 1:23:35.160 --> 1:23:37.640 United States is uh. In three years, if we have 1:23:37.680 --> 1:23:39.560 a foothold there, it's gonna be awfully tough for the 1:23:39.640 --> 1:23:42.200 next administration to unravel that. If it's a democratic one, 1:23:42.240 --> 1:23:45.080 it's a Republican fine, but if the Democratic when unravel 1:23:45.120 --> 1:23:47.920 that probably not that kind of hedges our bats a 1:23:47.960 --> 1:23:51.479 little bit in having a stronghold here in the West 1:23:51.640 --> 1:23:54.920 in Venezuela when it comes to uh a source of energy, 1:23:54.920 --> 1:23:56.280 a sense of oil which you're going to need for 1:23:56.280 --> 1:23:57.400 the next hundred plus years. 1:23:58.320 --> 1:23:58.479 Yeah. 1:23:58.520 --> 1:23:59.920 Look, at the end of the day, right when we 1:24:00.120 --> 1:24:03.439 all recognize that access to affordable energy is good for 1:24:03.479 --> 1:24:06.439 the American consumer, we all win. We experienced it in 1:24:06.520 --> 1:24:09.920 twenty five. We absolutely believe that, you know, this White 1:24:09.960 --> 1:24:11.960 House is headed in the right direction. And when it 1:24:12.040 --> 1:24:16.760 comes to focusing on American energy policy that I think 1:24:16.800 --> 1:24:19.680 if you write the story of twenty twenty five, one 1:24:19.720 --> 1:24:21.559 of the things that really comes out to meet Scott 1:24:21.680 --> 1:24:25.360 is that getting energy policy fixed was job worn because 1:24:25.400 --> 1:24:28.040 once we fix the energy policy, because the experts tell 1:24:28.120 --> 1:24:31.360 us about forty percent of overall inflation is driven by 1:24:31.520 --> 1:24:34.200 energy inflation. So we saw what happened when energy is 1:24:34.240 --> 1:24:37.479 in twenty twenty five, we also saw that inflation was reduced, 1:24:37.560 --> 1:24:39.120 not to where we want it to be, but it 1:24:39.200 --> 1:24:41.840 certainly is reduced, and we saw interest rates come down. 1:24:41.960 --> 1:24:45.560 So job one focus on American energy, we believe, was 1:24:45.640 --> 1:24:48.160 the right call, we've seen it, execute it, and we 1:24:48.240 --> 1:24:50.080 believe we're not going to forget those lessons in twenty 1:24:50.160 --> 1:24:50.679 twenty sixty. 1:24:50.840 --> 1:24:51.680 Yeah, that's the oil ement. 1:24:51.680 --> 1:24:53.400 I believes that those other legs of that still right, 1:24:53.400 --> 1:24:56.680 which be natural gas, It would be other things like 1:24:56.760 --> 1:24:59.200 that too, But it seems to me is transmission as 1:24:59.240 --> 1:25:01.200 the other issue hit and getting it from point A 1:25:01.320 --> 1:25:03.679 to point B producing it. But we know the strain 1:25:03.760 --> 1:25:05.920 on our energy grid. For example, we know that the 1:25:06.160 --> 1:25:09.280 Keystone XL pipeline was shut down and now restarted under Trump. 1:25:09.960 --> 1:25:12.320 That will definitely help to reduce if it's not already 1:25:12.360 --> 1:25:16.719 reducing oil prices, gas prices at that But infrastructure seems 1:25:16.720 --> 1:25:19.040 to be the bottleneck, no doubt. 1:25:19.400 --> 1:25:23.360 I'm glad you brought that up, because we've had this incredible, 1:25:24.320 --> 1:25:28.559 I think bottleneck permitting infrastructure that we need in this country. 1:25:28.880 --> 1:25:31.439 And again, I think there was this mindset that, you know, 1:25:31.720 --> 1:25:34.560 energy wasn't necessary, that we were going to maybe we 1:25:34.680 --> 1:25:36.680 had begun to accept that we're going to get all 1:25:36.720 --> 1:25:37.559 of our energy. 1:25:37.360 --> 1:25:39.000 From the birds and the bees and the flowers and 1:25:39.040 --> 1:25:39.439 the trees. 1:25:39.520 --> 1:25:41.840 And I think there's starting to be some realization that 1:25:42.040 --> 1:25:44.200 you know, hey, we don't make these investments. We started 1:25:44.400 --> 1:25:47.600 up having serious issues and so the grid does have 1:25:47.720 --> 1:25:51.200 a bottlenecks. I do believe that there's a couple of 1:25:51.240 --> 1:25:54.040 things that happened that's very important to getting the big 1:25:54.040 --> 1:25:57.120 beautiful Bill provided some relief on infrastructure. 1:25:57.400 --> 1:25:58.679 Also, the Supreme Court. 1:25:58.560 --> 1:26:04.240 Decision, I think it's called seven Counties Eagle County versus 1:26:04.760 --> 1:26:08.760 Seven Counties Infrastructure. That was a significant decision coming at 1:26:08.760 --> 1:26:14.120 a Supreme Court. The executive order that created or get 1:26:14.200 --> 1:26:19.599 created the National declared the National Energy Emergency, the creation 1:26:19.720 --> 1:26:23.120 of the National Indidominance Council. I think you can expect 1:26:23.160 --> 1:26:26.440 twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven to be absolute 1:26:26.760 --> 1:26:32.400 record years, record years on the capital that's deployed in 1:26:32.560 --> 1:26:37.240 infrastructure development, because I believe that the capital deployers have 1:26:37.400 --> 1:26:41.280 the confidence that this country is fixing its bottlenecks. One 1:26:41.320 --> 1:26:43.280 of the other things is going through Congress right now, 1:26:43.720 --> 1:26:46.960 something called the Speed Act, which is designed again to 1:26:47.439 --> 1:26:51.320 remove some of the bureaucratic bureaucratic holes. And you know, 1:26:51.520 --> 1:26:53.760 folks have a hard time when they put together a 1:26:53.840 --> 1:26:57.320 business plan and it's a big and dollar business plan, 1:26:57.920 --> 1:27:01.680 and it takes on certain mouthstone and those milestones get 1:27:01.920 --> 1:27:04.639 get delayed and delayed and delayed and delayed, and nineteen 1:27:04.680 --> 1:27:06.640 years later you're still waiting for a permit. That's no 1:27:06.720 --> 1:27:08.479 way to run a business. There's no one way to 1:27:09.360 --> 1:27:13.559 provide affordable energy to American consumers. So you absolutely right. 1:27:13.600 --> 1:27:16.240 I'm glad you brought it up. A lot of bottle 1:27:16.320 --> 1:27:18.960 necks on the grid. Looked for twenty twenty sixth and 1:27:19.000 --> 1:27:22.839 twenty twenty seven to be extremely strong with the deployment 1:27:22.920 --> 1:27:25.360 of capital to start removing some of those bottle necks. 1:27:25.360 --> 1:27:27.479 Well see how it shakes out on the home front. 1:27:27.520 --> 1:27:30.000 Things are good. We'll find out. Venezuela now an outlier. 1:27:30.040 --> 1:27:32.960 But Scott Einshiel is with USA Energy workers down on 1:27:33.040 --> 1:27:35.679 the Bayou. And thanks again for the time. It's always Scott, 1:27:35.880 --> 1:27:36.400 all the best. 1:27:37.439 --> 1:27:39.760 Thank you so much, and good luck for you in 1:27:39.840 --> 1:27:40.679 twenty twenty six. 1:27:40.560 --> 1:27:42.000 You too, You as well, my friend. I'm sure we'll 1:27:42.000 --> 1:27:44.960 talk again soon. You know, as he was talking, there 1:27:45.000 --> 1:27:47.760 was so thinking about the demand, and it was the 1:27:47.840 --> 1:27:51.120 stupidest thing that the Hubris, the previous administration, had about 1:27:51.160 --> 1:27:54.400 forcing electric vehicles on people. Hybrids are where it's at, 1:27:54.439 --> 1:27:56.120 and we said no, no, we don't want that because 1:27:56.120 --> 1:27:58.479 that's gas. We can't have gasoline. Got to go right 1:27:58.520 --> 1:28:00.840 to electric, and we saw what happened. It kind of 1:28:00.880 --> 1:28:03.479 collapsed upon itself. Not that there's you know, electric cars 1:28:03.479 --> 1:28:05.040 are going to go, evs are going to go anywhere, 1:28:05.160 --> 1:28:08.559 but certainly trying to force people and pushing that agenda 1:28:08.880 --> 1:28:11.320 didn't work out most people. Most people who drive, you know, 1:28:11.520 --> 1:28:13.960 drive a significant amount of miles in the United States 1:28:14.600 --> 1:28:17.640 outside of the big cities, and you know, the ryal 1:28:17.760 --> 1:28:20.360 leveluild of having to charge something every so often, it's 1:28:20.520 --> 1:28:22.640 still a lot of pilling despite the incredible range that 1:28:22.720 --> 1:28:25.760 these cars have. At the same time, you know, people 1:28:25.840 --> 1:28:28.559 want SUVs and bigger vehicles now, I think largely because 1:28:28.560 --> 1:28:32.000 the roads suck. I think if you want people to 1:28:32.240 --> 1:28:35.880 become more you know from the environmentalists, to go to 1:28:35.920 --> 1:28:37.559 all electric, which poses its own problems. 1:28:37.640 --> 1:28:38.720 But we need more. 1:28:38.800 --> 1:28:42.080 We need wider, bigger and better roads. Uh so you know, 1:28:42.280 --> 1:28:45.040 every every pothole doesn't feel like your teeth are going 1:28:45.080 --> 1:28:47.160 to get knocked out. Just my two cents anyway, quick 1:28:47.200 --> 1:28:49.439 time out more to follow slowly on seven hundred w 1:28:49.560 --> 1:28:52.800 O got to flow show seven hundred WIWD slide in 1:28:52.880 --> 1:28:55.360 the first one Shower of twenty six or a lot 1:28:55.439 --> 1:28:58.360 of people, and I want to talk about generally, it's 1:28:58.400 --> 1:29:01.640 so sports related about this time. And Cleveland knocks off 1:29:01.640 --> 1:29:05.960 the Bengals yesterday twenty eighteen. Bengals fall to six and eleven, 1:29:06.040 --> 1:29:09.559 and I, for one, am happy the Bengals lost yesterday. 1:29:10.240 --> 1:29:13.559 James Rapeat is here from SI's Bengals Talk dot Com 1:29:13.720 --> 1:29:15.080 in the Lockdown Bengals podcast. 1:29:15.160 --> 1:29:15.679 James welcome. 1:29:15.720 --> 1:29:17.840 I said, yes, I'm glad the Bengals lost because I 1:29:17.960 --> 1:29:21.200 hate the tired narrative where our teams go on a 1:29:21.280 --> 1:29:24.400 streak once the season is out of reach, once the 1:29:24.439 --> 1:29:26.479 postseason's out of reach, and they talk about, well we 1:29:26.600 --> 1:29:28.200 got something to build on for next year. That is 1:29:28.240 --> 1:29:33.960 the stupidest, most excuse ridden concept ever. I'm glad they lost, 1:29:34.000 --> 1:29:36.240 so you go, listen, blow this thing up and fix. 1:29:36.120 --> 1:29:38.200 It, right, you did it? 1:29:38.479 --> 1:29:38.640 I do. 1:29:39.160 --> 1:29:44.320 I totally understand that. I think I hope they knew 1:29:44.800 --> 1:29:49.559 regardless that they weren't close. But now you look at 1:29:49.600 --> 1:29:52.719 it and you lose to Vat Brown's team with Jill Burrow, 1:29:53.000 --> 1:29:55.320 which just shouldn't happen. I mean, it really is an 1:29:55.320 --> 1:29:59.679 embarrassing loss, and you have to look in the mirror 1:29:59.680 --> 1:30:02.320 and say we were five hundred with Joe Burrow. You know, 1:30:02.360 --> 1:30:04.320 we were three and three with Joe Burrow, right and 1:30:06.200 --> 1:30:10.000 after he came back to be clear. Yeah, so a 1:30:10.120 --> 1:30:12.200 tough cover swallow for sure, no no. 1:30:12.240 --> 1:30:12.720 Doubt about it. 1:30:12.800 --> 1:30:15.160 I look at a you know you because if they'd 1:30:15.160 --> 1:30:17.559 won that game yesterday and they're very close to doing it, obviously, 1:30:17.600 --> 1:30:20.519 that's a that field goal. You go back and go, well, okay, 1:30:20.560 --> 1:30:23.000 we won three and they lost to a Jets team 1:30:23.040 --> 1:30:25.960 this season that by the way, yesterday I watched that 1:30:26.040 --> 1:30:29.519 Bills game. The Bills started well, Josh Allen I think 1:30:29.560 --> 1:30:32.000 once here one handoff, and then he was out of 1:30:32.000 --> 1:30:33.599 the game to keep his one hundred and twenty games 1:30:33.600 --> 1:30:37.479 streak alive. But Mitch Trubisky backup comes in, all the 1:30:37.560 --> 1:30:39.799 backups are and the Bills throttled the Jets. 1:30:40.360 --> 1:30:41.280 The Jets the. 1:30:41.320 --> 1:30:43.840 Only team in NFL history not to get one single 1:30:43.920 --> 1:30:46.560 interception all damn season long, and the Bengals loss of 1:30:46.640 --> 1:30:48.760 that team. That's what I look at and scratch my 1:30:48.840 --> 1:30:51.400 head and go, how is that even possible? What the 1:30:51.479 --> 1:30:54.400 talent this team has. You've got Joe Burrow, you've got 1:30:54.479 --> 1:30:57.200 Jamar Chase, you got t Higgins and a thousand yard 1:30:57.320 --> 1:30:59.879 rusher in Chase Brown, and you still can't make the playoffs. 1:31:01.080 --> 1:31:04.240 Yeah, and not even close. I mean they've been eliminated 1:31:04.280 --> 1:31:06.320 for so long. It's not like they were in it 1:31:06.439 --> 1:31:09.280 down the stretch and something didn't break their way like 1:31:09.400 --> 1:31:12.880 last year. Yeah, that's it. That's the frustrating thing. 1:31:13.880 --> 1:31:14.120 And so. 1:31:16.160 --> 1:31:19.040 Now it's about how do you get better? What do 1:31:19.120 --> 1:31:21.200 you need to get better? What needs to improve? What 1:31:21.520 --> 1:31:25.360 are the changes that need to be made? And what's 1:31:25.439 --> 1:31:28.439 interesting is is you could say, yeah, because a bunch 1:31:28.479 --> 1:31:30.639 of changes need to be made, and you could say 1:31:30.680 --> 1:31:33.680 the coaches and guess what, I think you're right. You 1:31:33.760 --> 1:31:36.879 could say they need to be more aggressive in free agency, 1:31:36.920 --> 1:31:39.760 and guess what, I think you're right. Obviously they need 1:31:39.840 --> 1:31:42.559 to draft better with talent that's ready to go right 1:31:42.640 --> 1:31:45.200 now instead of needing to be developed for two to 1:31:45.320 --> 1:31:47.479 three years. If that's how they're trying to bank on 1:31:47.560 --> 1:31:49.960 the draft, which is a dangerous game to play. So 1:31:50.680 --> 1:31:52.200 there's a lot of ways they can get better. 1:31:52.680 --> 1:31:55.160 Well, everything's on the table, but it's really not because 1:31:55.160 --> 1:31:57.559 it's the Bengals. Of course. 1:31:57.680 --> 1:32:00.400 Just dropping a couple hours ago was Mike Brown's statement 1:32:00.560 --> 1:32:04.640 that after thoughtful consideration, I'm confident that Duke Tobin and 1:32:04.760 --> 1:32:07.679 Zach Taylor are the right leaders to guide us forward. 1:32:07.800 --> 1:32:09.600 Why well because of one of the playoffs in the 1:32:09.640 --> 1:32:12.160 Super Bowl, so it can't possibly do them. But we're 1:32:12.160 --> 1:32:14.000 going to look at everything that doesn't make a lot 1:32:14.040 --> 1:32:16.639 of sense and confidence there and maybe the one area 1:32:16.720 --> 1:32:19.240 that he didn't mention that should is free agency. 1:32:19.600 --> 1:32:23.000 They better be aggressive in free agency. And I actually 1:32:23.240 --> 1:32:28.200 just wrote something this morning what Joe Burrow said about 1:32:28.280 --> 1:32:30.400 free agency because I asked him because it's one thing 1:32:30.479 --> 1:32:33.040 for me to stay on all my platforms, which I 1:32:33.160 --> 1:32:37.120 have for quite some time now that hey, they set 1:32:37.160 --> 1:32:39.800 themselves up for failure this season because of their lack 1:32:39.880 --> 1:32:42.720 of activity and free agency. They went and they got 1:32:42.800 --> 1:32:45.799 t J. Slayton, and that was really the only defensive 1:32:45.880 --> 1:32:49.920 starter that they brought in. And we saw the defense 1:32:50.000 --> 1:32:52.679 last year, we knew it wouldn't just be a coach 1:32:52.880 --> 1:32:55.320 that would fix it. And so for that to be 1:32:55.439 --> 1:33:00.400 the case is unacceptable. And Joe Burrow saying, quote when 1:33:00.400 --> 1:33:02.960 I asked about free agency, that's a paramount importance. You 1:33:03.040 --> 1:33:05.400 have to identify where you're weak and figure out a 1:33:05.479 --> 1:33:08.559 way to be strung in that area. It's pretty simple, 1:33:09.600 --> 1:33:11.560 and so they need to do it. They need to 1:33:11.600 --> 1:33:15.320 add multiple starters, probably one to all three levels of 1:33:15.360 --> 1:33:18.160 their defense, if we're being quite honest, and that doesn't 1:33:18.200 --> 1:33:20.640 mean that they're not going to or shouldn't add to 1:33:20.720 --> 1:33:22.320 the offense. A lot of people are going to say, 1:33:22.360 --> 1:33:25.479 all of the offensive set we saw yesterday, the offense 1:33:25.560 --> 1:33:29.080 is not set. The offense is far from set. They're good, 1:33:29.680 --> 1:33:32.160 they're talented, they have a chance to be really good. 1:33:33.120 --> 1:33:35.320 But they should have hung thirty on a crappy, lifeless 1:33:35.360 --> 1:33:38.080 Browns team, even with the turnovers, and they didn't get close. 1:33:39.439 --> 1:33:40.600 James repeating so on that. 1:33:42.080 --> 1:33:44.599 You have to ask yourself, Okay, during that that anomaly 1:33:44.680 --> 1:33:46.479 where they went out and leaned in the free agency, 1:33:46.880 --> 1:33:48.720 in the last three seasons they got away from that. 1:33:49.000 --> 1:33:51.120 So the question would be why if it worked, then 1:33:52.160 --> 1:33:54.479 we know the reasons what predicated that. So aren't we 1:33:54.520 --> 1:33:56.439 in the same position now, why wouldn't you replicate if 1:33:56.479 --> 1:33:58.240 that worked for you once, why wouldn't. 1:33:57.920 --> 1:34:02.240 You continue to do that? I don't have the complete answer. 1:34:02.320 --> 1:34:05.360 Here's what I would tell you. I think that they overthought, 1:34:05.840 --> 1:34:09.400 completely overthought this idea that oh my god, we got 1:34:09.479 --> 1:34:11.120 to pay Joe and Jamar and how are we going 1:34:11.200 --> 1:34:13.360 to make this work? And they looked up and they 1:34:13.360 --> 1:34:15.559 had no one to pay. That's why if they didn't 1:34:15.560 --> 1:34:19.000 pay te Higgins I would have lost my mind. They 1:34:19.040 --> 1:34:21.760 had no one to pay that. They have so much money, 1:34:21.840 --> 1:34:24.879 so much cash shaded, so much room, and they drafted 1:34:24.960 --> 1:34:28.320 so poorly that they easily could have paid Jest. They 1:34:28.360 --> 1:34:30.240 easily could have paid DJ. It was a predative by 1:34:30.280 --> 1:34:32.680 the way. They easily could have paid all of these 1:34:32.720 --> 1:34:35.560 guys and kept their stars. But in their minds, I 1:34:35.600 --> 1:34:37.640 think they thought, oh, well, we got the quarterback coming up, 1:34:37.920 --> 1:34:41.599 but we got the receiver coming up, and they felt 1:34:41.640 --> 1:34:45.880 like they couldn't operate. And that's why, Like I think back, 1:34:46.400 --> 1:34:49.160 really the past three off season. Last year was TJ. 1:34:49.280 --> 1:34:51.639 Slayton was their big get, which can't be your big 1:34:51.760 --> 1:34:54.160 get if you're a Super Bowl contender in free agency. 1:34:53.920 --> 1:34:54.240 Just can't. 1:34:54.280 --> 1:34:56.680 It's not that's not even have bininary thy for a 1:34:56.720 --> 1:34:59.880 lot of teams, And that's no knock on TJ. It's 1:35:00.000 --> 1:35:01.519 so the reality of it. You need to add real 1:35:01.600 --> 1:35:04.920 starters that and he's worth it, but you need to 1:35:04.920 --> 1:35:08.240 add more than one piece to that defense. But I 1:35:08.320 --> 1:35:11.040 think back to over the past three years, really the 1:35:11.120 --> 1:35:15.519 only significant free agent signing was Orlando Brown Junior. And 1:35:15.800 --> 1:35:18.160 I'll tell you right now, Scott, they didn't go into 1:35:18.160 --> 1:35:20.679 free agency thinking they had a shot at Orlando Brown Junior. 1:35:20.880 --> 1:35:23.160 That wasn't even a guy they were targeting. He fell 1:35:23.200 --> 1:35:25.920 into their laps because he looked at the situation and said, ooh, 1:35:26.000 --> 1:35:28.679 that would be a good situation. And that's what scares 1:35:28.800 --> 1:35:32.080 me is like, you guys got to think like this 1:35:32.280 --> 1:35:35.720 is the Joe Burrow era. And so however you get 1:35:35.760 --> 1:35:37.760 to Little Lombardy, you got to get there. It doesn't 1:35:37.760 --> 1:35:40.360 matter if you're hurt feelings, it doesn't matter what wall 1:35:40.400 --> 1:35:42.040 you got to run through. You got to find a 1:35:42.080 --> 1:35:44.880 way to get there. And it doesn't feel like they're 1:35:44.960 --> 1:35:48.040 willing to climb, crawl, run through, do whatever it takes 1:35:48.400 --> 1:35:51.920 to get there, because if they were, they would be 1:35:52.000 --> 1:35:55.160 willing to manipulate how they structure contracts to get more 1:35:55.200 --> 1:35:57.559 guys on under the cap and all of the things 1:35:57.600 --> 1:36:00.400 that I've highlighted with you all, Oh yeah, well I 1:36:00.680 --> 1:36:01.360 think that that thing. 1:36:01.520 --> 1:36:03.439 Yeah, And James, to your point, I mean, Chase Brown 1:36:03.520 --> 1:36:06.560 right thousand and out Rusher, you know, his contracts, and 1:36:06.800 --> 1:36:08.680 I think, what end twenty nine the next season, you 1:36:08.680 --> 1:36:10.320 should have him locked in right now or at least 1:36:10.360 --> 1:36:12.760 this offseason. That's a priority, right for getting him. You 1:36:12.840 --> 1:36:14.880 can lock him in cheaper than it's going to cost 1:36:14.960 --> 1:36:17.479 you down the line, and we've seen them not do 1:36:17.640 --> 1:36:18.759 that with plenty of players. 1:36:19.800 --> 1:36:23.240 Yeah, and so Chase Brown's interesting. But what's tough about that? 1:36:24.200 --> 1:36:26.160 They're spending a lot of money on offense, right and 1:36:26.280 --> 1:36:29.200 so do they overthink that? I don't. I don't know. 1:36:29.360 --> 1:36:30.040 Here's what I do know. 1:36:30.240 --> 1:36:32.720 DJ Turner is in the same boat. I want DJ 1:36:32.840 --> 1:36:35.040 Turner on the team next year, on the team the 1:36:35.120 --> 1:36:38.800 year after. Yes, that's still entering his fifth year option. 1:36:39.200 --> 1:36:43.040 So there are guys like that. But here's the other thing. 1:36:43.840 --> 1:36:46.280 Don't worry about those extensions and those guys that are 1:36:46.360 --> 1:36:50.080 under contract in the middle of free agency. The real 1:36:50.479 --> 1:36:54.200 loss of the Jamar and t contracts was it wasn't 1:36:54.320 --> 1:36:56.560 just how they structured them. And I'm not going to 1:36:56.600 --> 1:36:58.639 get two into the leads there because they wasted about 1:36:58.680 --> 1:37:00.600 ten million dollars in cap space. It didn't have to, 1:37:01.600 --> 1:37:04.600 but it was the when, why the hell would you 1:37:04.680 --> 1:37:08.439 do that? With free agency opens, they're under contract, they're yours. 1:37:08.520 --> 1:37:11.160 You can negotiate with them anytime you want. Once free 1:37:11.160 --> 1:37:14.640 agency opens, that is your time to go after outsidecast. 1:37:15.120 --> 1:37:17.280 They didn't do that. They were so worried I think 1:37:17.400 --> 1:37:21.720 internally about getting those done and how it would look 1:37:22.240 --> 1:37:24.360 and impact their salary catch space that they could not 1:37:24.560 --> 1:37:28.639 operate without getting those done. That just cannot happen. 1:37:28.800 --> 1:37:31.000 Well, also hamstring themselves because it's I only have this 1:37:31.080 --> 1:37:34.080 heart official. We don't negotiate during these during the season, 1:37:34.160 --> 1:37:36.880 these particular times, and like you're always negotiating. 1:37:36.960 --> 1:37:38.560 It doesn't make any sense. That's what the rest of 1:37:38.600 --> 1:37:39.040 the league is. 1:37:39.200 --> 1:37:40.680 It's always negotia. 1:37:40.640 --> 1:37:42.640 Some stupid like, well this is the way we did 1:37:42.720 --> 1:37:45.360 it when my dad ran the team. Well we also 1:37:45.439 --> 1:37:48.120 have color TV, So what what the hell are you 1:37:48.200 --> 1:37:51.519 talking about. You don't know if they do, I don't know, 1:37:51.880 --> 1:37:54.639 probably not working off a rabbit or I'm not sure, 1:37:55.560 --> 1:37:56.280 get in trouble. 1:37:58.840 --> 1:38:02.879 They uh, I'm watching this football game. They're at midfield. 1:38:02.880 --> 1:38:04.960 They have a chance to really to put this thing 1:38:05.000 --> 1:38:07.200 away fourth and one, they wind up punting the ball 1:38:08.000 --> 1:38:10.760 comes back to bite them. And then later on when 1:38:10.800 --> 1:38:15.000 Miles Garrett gets his record setting sack of Joe Burrow, 1:38:15.040 --> 1:38:17.439 which was I thought. I thought for a while he 1:38:17.560 --> 1:38:19.280 wasn't gonna get it, but he got it. You know, 1:38:19.400 --> 1:38:21.840 the stadium is reluctantly. Even Bengals fans were on their 1:38:21.880 --> 1:38:23.679 feet for this because it's a milestone, right, I haven't 1:38:23.680 --> 1:38:26.840 seen this in twenty years. He's eclipsed and become the 1:38:26.920 --> 1:38:29.519 old time NFL set the record for the most sacks 1:38:29.560 --> 1:38:32.560 and one season twenty three. I've seen a lot of 1:38:32.560 --> 1:38:34.920 sports and you have too, and I can't remember a 1:38:35.000 --> 1:38:37.479 milestone like that where the game didn't stop and they 1:38:37.479 --> 1:38:39.840 didn't celebrate. And yet in his press conference, Zach was 1:38:39.880 --> 1:38:43.000 all pissed off that they stopped the game to Kurt Miles, 1:38:43.439 --> 1:38:45.880 I'm sorry to kurt him off the field and celebrate him. 1:38:46.439 --> 1:38:48.560 And it took the momentumway from the Bengals. Like the 1:38:48.720 --> 1:38:52.840 urgency of that moment in the running tempo. Somehow that mattered, 1:38:52.880 --> 1:38:54.160 but the fourth and one punt did not. 1:38:54.280 --> 1:38:55.040 It makes no sense. 1:38:56.760 --> 1:39:01.719 I totally agree with Like, I get what he was saying. 1:39:02.040 --> 1:39:02.519 Yeah, I do. 1:39:02.800 --> 1:39:06.840 Come on, let's not make it a huge deal because 1:39:06.880 --> 1:39:10.600 you just got your buff loos right like right, Like 1:39:10.800 --> 1:39:13.720 it is annoying and it is frustrating, and you were 1:39:13.800 --> 1:39:15.439 trying to play to win the game, which makes it 1:39:15.520 --> 1:39:20.320 even more sad that the backup Browns team that very 1:39:20.360 --> 1:39:22.880 well is going to fire their coach. And it feels 1:39:22.920 --> 1:39:25.519 that way I talked to people up there. It's just 1:39:25.760 --> 1:39:30.080 it cannot it cannot be a thing like that has 1:39:30.840 --> 1:39:34.720 like millions of us that Taylor complaining now and so 1:39:34.880 --> 1:39:37.760 now when And he might not care because he also 1:39:37.840 --> 1:39:40.040 praised Miles Garrett. But that's not the point that everyone's 1:39:40.040 --> 1:39:41.519 going to remember. It's gonna be I remember when that 1:39:41.600 --> 1:39:43.920 Bengals coach complained that they so. 1:39:45.320 --> 1:39:47.080 Like, that's just it's just not a good look. 1:39:48.280 --> 1:39:49.400 So he could have made his. 1:39:49.520 --> 1:39:52.960 Point without being so we were trying to get on 1:39:53.000 --> 1:39:54.639 the ball and we were finding to them we're fighting 1:39:54.680 --> 1:39:56.759 for our lives here and then like, all right, well. 1:39:57.120 --> 1:39:58.519 Why fight for your lives? 1:39:58.560 --> 1:40:01.360 And with zero zero gets the yeah, yeah, there's no 1:40:01.880 --> 1:40:02.280 it's odd. 1:40:03.280 --> 1:40:05.479 This morning the Brown said we're done with Mike Stefanski, 1:40:05.520 --> 1:40:08.639 two time Coach the Year. Immediately Bengals fans start thinking, well, 1:40:09.040 --> 1:40:11.640 is he an upgrade from the coach we have now 1:40:11.720 --> 1:40:14.599 in Zach Taylor. Mike Brown kind of cut this thing 1:40:14.680 --> 1:40:17.080 off of the Knees issued a statement not long ago saying, 1:40:17.120 --> 1:40:20.200 after thoughtful consideration, he's confident that not only Duke Tobyn 1:40:20.240 --> 1:40:22.880 but Zach Taylor are the right leaders to guid his forward. 1:40:23.320 --> 1:40:28.080 Should the Bengals have gone after Kevin Stefanski, I don't know, 1:40:28.360 --> 1:40:29.400 doesn't matter, So. 1:40:31.040 --> 1:40:34.240 It matters for sure. It matters because I've thought about 1:40:34.240 --> 1:40:36.479 this a lot, like if the front office isn't changing, 1:40:37.320 --> 1:40:39.200 you see what an elite quarterback can do for you. 1:40:39.840 --> 1:40:41.519 If you have an elite quarterback that can do that, 1:40:41.760 --> 1:40:43.519 and you get an elite head coach, which they do 1:40:43.600 --> 1:40:45.559 not have an elite head coach, it goes without saying 1:40:46.439 --> 1:40:51.320 then like pretty good spot to be in. And uh So, 1:40:51.479 --> 1:40:55.840 I I don't know if I think Kevin the Fancy 1:40:55.880 --> 1:40:57.640 is the laite head coach. I think it's muddy. I 1:40:57.720 --> 1:41:00.400 will say this. I think in NFL circles held in 1:41:00.479 --> 1:41:04.920 higher regard than jacket correct, But do I think that 1:41:05.080 --> 1:41:09.679 he's this awesome coach like I don't know, I don't 1:41:09.920 --> 1:41:11.840 I don't know if I think that maybe he is 1:41:12.280 --> 1:41:14.240 and I'm missing it and I'm not seeing the full boat. 1:41:14.400 --> 1:41:18.320 And in the NFL evaluators that are uh seated differently 1:41:18.360 --> 1:41:21.200 in our right. But for me personally, I never looked 1:41:21.200 --> 1:41:22.960 at Kevin Stefanski and I was up there when like 1:41:23.120 --> 1:41:25.679 right when he got hired. I wasn't there for that season, 1:41:25.760 --> 1:41:29.160 but right when he got hired. But I'm not sure 1:41:30.040 --> 1:41:32.840 I'm convinced and completely sold on that I made my words. 1:41:32.880 --> 1:41:35.320 In two years, if he goes to Tennessee and has 1:41:35.360 --> 1:41:37.280 them competing for titles, yeah. 1:41:37.320 --> 1:41:40.920 Yeah, letting Brabel go. You know, I think it's bad 1:41:40.960 --> 1:41:44.080 in Cincinnati that Tennessee. That just leaves everyone shaking there. Nonetheless, 1:41:44.160 --> 1:41:49.479 James Brabel is elite. Tennessee is like, yeah, we don't 1:41:49.520 --> 1:41:52.400 like this guy, we don't need him. Uh, James Rapine 1:41:52.400 --> 1:41:54.400 over that s I of course I'll locked on Bendals 1:41:54.439 --> 1:41:57.120 podcast and Bendle's Talk dot com post a new stuff 1:41:57.120 --> 1:42:00.439 about our conversation today were talking about. Go check that out. James, 1:42:00.479 --> 1:42:02.719 all the best. Appreciate you all season long and anything breaks, 1:42:02.760 --> 1:42:04.879 we'll have you back on. But have a great offseason. 1:42:04.920 --> 1:42:07.800 Man, Appreciate you, Thanks, Scott, appreciate you. Take care. 1:42:07.880 --> 1:42:09.519 Let's get a time out in. We're running late. We've 1:42:09.560 --> 1:42:11.320 got news on the way. That means Willie is just 1:42:11.400 --> 1:42:14.599 ahead here on seven hundred ww Cincinnati