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Speaker 1: Rights studies program. He is a professor. Mark and Salaco

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Speaker 2: Mark, Happy New Year, Scott.

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Speaker 1: Let's jump in and go with the narrative here about

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Speaker 4: Is a case was built. But it's about drugs, it's

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Speaker 3: And you made an interesting point as you began this interview.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Mark Ansilaka from UD spent considerable amount of time

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Speaker 1: What happens now and somehow we're going to quote unquote

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Speaker 1: How can we do that without putting military, without putting

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Speaker 3: You got the military, Let me come back to that.

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Speaker 4: I don't see it, Doctor her. Know, the generals are

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, you examine that, and there's just so

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Speaker 4: It was just venal.

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Speaker 3: He's not charismatic dictator. He's really a ten dictator. Not

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Speaker 1: Hey, real quick, do you think we might be facing

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Speaker 3: Yes, exactly right, that's the way Putin and g heard

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Speaker 4: Yeah right. And in Latin America.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think I also since a strong you know,

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Speaker 1: Mark and Silaco at the University of Dayton uh Mark

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Speaker 1: and there're a lot to chew on. There is this

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Speaker 1: To be to break the windows at the house of

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Speaker 1: I get politics and how divided we are and how

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Speaker 1: You know, most of us could probably have our window broken.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we should just go back to the way it

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Speaker 1: the morning to get going, and sometimes I mean even

439
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: more than that. But when you're out over the holidays,

440
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 1: obviously stop and grab a couple of coffee. Because Michelle

441
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 1: same way. She just drinks it. She drinks HER's black,

442
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 1: a little sweetener in it. And it was over ten bucks.

443
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: I'm looking at them. It's not like I had some

444
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 1: sort of you know, whipped top. I had whipped cream

445
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 1: and sprinkles, and I had a soy latte and extra

446
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: ones like a gallon size. It's just like two cups

447
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: of good sized cups of coffee. But still like, damn,

448
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: that's expensive. If we're going after imperial as, if we're

449
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: starting to take countries over, can I make a suggestion?

450
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: How about Columbia? I know, I think Brazil is the

451
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 1: biggest exporter of coffee, but Brazil feels like, kind of

452
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 1: maybe that's just a bit too far. We're taking places.

453
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 1: Columbia seems more acceptable. I think they're just below bra

454
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: for coffee exportation. She'd be like, why don't we start

455
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 1: If we took Columbia over, could could that bring the

456
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 1: cup of coffee down to you know, what's reasonable? A

457
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: couple of bucks. I just I just I'm making suggestions.

458
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 1: I'm just spitballing. As long as we're taking as long

459
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Speaker 1: as we're invading countries and putting our regimes there, could

460
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 1: we could we start a wish list places says like, okay,

461
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: if we took over most of Latin Mexico, you just

462
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 1: think that one's like, Wow, it'd take care of the

463
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: border issue for sure.

464
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 2: But I don't think we we can.

465
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: We can barely manage the United States, right, And then

466
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 1: some make a good argument going, we can't even handle

467
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: run in this country, and now we're expanding our territory.

468
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but as long as we're doing corporate

469
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: takeovers here, it's like, okay, when the next on the list,

470
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Speaker 1: I don't know about Cuba, it'd be nice for you know, vacation,

471
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 1: they believe it or not, despite the terrible regime that's

472
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: been there for a long time. One of the one

473
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Speaker 1: of the biggest environmentals you talk about, like the reefs

474
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. I guess it's pristine. I've never been,

475
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: but I've heard it's like, yeah, they really, they really

476
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 1: take care of the environment off the Coasta, So you know,

477
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: Are we gonna start to see out on McDonald's and

478
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,360
Speaker 1: Starbucks pretty soon and in Cuba? If we do that,

479
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 1: Mexico comes to Greenland to be another one? Or are

480
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: we gonna invade Greenland at some point here for the

481
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: natural resources and expanding our foot pritty from Mark No, No,

482
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: But can we move Columbia up a little bit? It

483
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Speaker 1: seems like that's a country now? In Columbia, Well, don't

484
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: they do drugs? Generally coffee, but coco. It's an we

485
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 1: just take that one. That'd be one like no one

486
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: had noticed. It's like when we made Hawaii the fifties state.

487
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, Alaska, Wi sure, why not? God for sake?

488
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nice, that's tropical. So we got a little Yeah, okay,

489
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 2: let's do that.

490
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna advocate for the expansion of the Columbia next

491
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Speaker 1: to bring down the damn coffee prices.

492
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 2: Beef would be another one. I guess, yeah, that's a

493
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 2: good one. Go for the beef. But you know, we

494
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: had a drought, we had disease. That's probably going to

495
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 2: right the ship.

496
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 1: There is going to write, But I don't know if

497
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: we just take over a country and go get some

498
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: argent argent You know, do you take over Argentina in

499
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 1: that matter too to get the beef prices down?

500
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 2: Were just where does this keep going? Is be the

501
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: big question?

502
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: Something else happening this week, and the first with the

503
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 1: key of the year would be the Consumer Electronics Show

504
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: in Vegas. If you're a guy, generally speaking, it kind

505
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 1: of like techie stuff and some of the ones to

506
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 1: look for this year at the consumer electronics shows, By

507
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: the way, was founded in nineteen sixty seven. Hard to

508
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: believe it's been going on that long. I wonder I

509
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: have to go back and look and see what was

510
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 1: the hot tech in nineteen sixty seven. Probably bigger color TVs.

511
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: I'd imagine that doesn't change this year. There's a new

512
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: technology out there called micro RGB. I'm guessing the RGB

513
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 1: is red, green, blue, and that is the next generation

514
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: in color and contrast. I suppose because we had a

515
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: micro LEDs now and I guess micro RGB is the

516
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: next generation of making your TV pop. They have and

517
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: I think this issung one hundred and thirty inch micro

518
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: RGBTV and I think they have thrown the I don't

519
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: know if this is the trend or not. But they

520
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: might be throwing the towel in on wall mounted TVs

521
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 1: because most people don't wal mount the flat mounts. I'm

522
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: sick in the head and I like doing that stuff,

523
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'll run the cable and electrical and hide

524
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: the chords and all that stuff as well.

525
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: Most people just you know, put it on.

526
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 1: A pedestal or have the chords hanging down and get

527
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, eleven extension chords out and do it that way.

528
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: And maybe they're throwing the townel because this thing is

529
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty inch TV that is framed by

530
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: a giant metal I got.

531
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 2: The best way to call it. This is an easel,

532
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: so picture it.

533
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 1: It's a big rectangular frame, thin steel frame, and then

534
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: inset in the frame on little pivot points on the

535
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: axis is the TV itself, so you can kind of

536
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: tilt it like a like a mirror almost, But the

537
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: frame sits on the ground and it covers up obvious

538
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty inches most of the hole and

539
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: you would mount your TV that way, so it just

540
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: stands alone now, which is kind of cool.

541
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 2: Actually.

542
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: Price tagging this bad boy, the one hundred and thirty

543
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: incher thirty thousand dollars, So now maybe not for most

544
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: of us, if not all of us at that point

545
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars TV, and that's probably more of a

546
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: proof of concept thing I would guess is that you know,

547
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: future ones are going to be a little smaller and

548
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: more accessible, but still when they roll out this new stuff,

549
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 1: obviously very cost prohibitive. They also doing a new line

550
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: of speakers will look kind of cool. They've got a

551
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: new sound bar out that is a seven point one

552
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 1: point two soundbar and the point two, I guess would

553
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: mean two subwolfers in it, thirteen drivers and four subwiffers.

554
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: Wonder how much of that thing weighs. Hang that on

555
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: your wall and possibly the coolest to encounter. There's some

556
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: and there's some gaming stuff new VR head where headsets

557
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: and things like that. But this is an interesting one

558
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: with AI integrated into everything right now is one I

559
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: must be a TV where AA you can use AI

560
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: AI speakers to cancel out announcers. For example, So if

561
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: you don't like a lot of people, certainly not here

562
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, not fans of Chris Collinsworth, you you can

563
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: have any AI take out Chris collins Worth. I don't

564
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: know that's good for the future of art business.

565
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: Here my quote. Sure, if you don't like the sound

566
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: of someone's voices, that's it. AI.

567
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: You can turn the commentators off in sporting events and

568
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: just have the crowd noise, which is that's kind of interesting.

569
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: Sometimes you really don't need it. Depending on the sport too,

570
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 1: you really don't. Do you really need to play by

571
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: play as much? I mean, look at what ESPN's done

572
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: with the paytent cast right where it's not you know,

573
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: you don't have the play by play games. Guys just

574
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: talking about it like you're sitting around a bar or

575
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: something like that with a sound down. I suppose that's

576
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: the next iteration of that, is AI noise canceled, canceling

577
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: out the announcers or I guess other things that you

578
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: don't want to hear during a game. I'm know you

579
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: can take the crowd noise out, just hear the announce

580
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: I suppose you could with AI. It's entirely possible, and

581
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: at some point you think you could be able to put,

582
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: you know, bring John Madden back to life and have

583
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: him do the content.

584
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: Where the where the where.

585
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: AI basically takes the words of the current play by

586
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: play team, and I don't know, you could have Snoop

587
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: Dogg and Martha Stewart call a game if you wanted to.

588
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,479
Speaker 1: They just used the words, but do it in their

589
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: own voices. The future is limitless, it really really is.

590
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: Don't know how much the AI canceling thing costs, but

591
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be more than the thirty k at

592
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: Chine hundred and thirty inch TV. An amazing part about

593
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: that is it's, you know, as we talk about the

594
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: prices of things, and I was kind of tongue and

595
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: she talk about invading Columbia bring the coffee prices down.

596
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: I wonder, you know, in the future, if we start

597
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: looking when it comes to, you know, the cost of electron,

598
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: it's like electronics if you look back.

599
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 5: I don't know.

600
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: I was looking at something recently.

601
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: It was kind of old school locally here and I think,

602
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: like a, I don't know, twenty five state of the

603
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: art nineteen seventy five or seventy seven, or or was

604
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: twenty five inch color TV console, you know, the big old'

605
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: common of the fake wood paneling, and it'd be like

606
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: the center play piece you're living. It's like five hundred

607
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: dollars for one of those TVs at twenty five inches,

608
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: and now I mean, how like for five hundred dollars

609
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: you can get a sixty inch TV and even bigger

610
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: for that matter, for much much cheaper. So that is

611
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: one thing when it comes to electronics, the cost of

612
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: that and the accessibility has become much much better than

613
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: it has in the past, despite inflation and all that.

614
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: And you mentioned the oil thing, and we've talked about

615
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: the Venezuela and oil. I think it's interesting. You know,

616
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: the idea here is we're going to have cheaper oil,

617
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: and I still think I know people disagree, but you know,

618
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: the whole drug thing was a pretext because we want

619
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: to get the oil. But you know, if you think

620
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: about it, it's oil right now is pretty cheap. No

621
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: one's really complaining about gas price. Is the one thing

622
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: Trump can turn to, even though presidents generally don't have

623
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: a big hand in that, is the fact that you know,

624
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: gas prices have gone down since he's taken over, and

625
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: I think this is probably a way politically to exacerbate that,

626
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: and like, hey, look we're gonna get really serious about energy,

627
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: energy costs, an accessibility to oil. You know, we're already

628
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: drilling in the golf. We open the golf back up

629
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: Golf of America or Mexico if you're old school to

630
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: drilling there. But the other side of that, though, is

631
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: too is like, well, if gas already cheap, then what

632
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: incentive do gas manufactured the people who actually go out

633
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: and get the gas and drill these companies, why would

634
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: they go to Venezuela. First of all, it's all up

635
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: in the air. You don't have any idea what's going

636
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: to happen with the regime. And it's not like, hey,

637
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: you go and it doesn't work out. It's not like

638
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: putting McDonald's in Moscow. Hey it doesn't work out, we

639
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: just close the store. I mean, you're talking about tens

640
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: of millions, if not billions of dollars in investment just

641
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: to start the process. And so if you put all

642
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: that capital into Venezuela and it's up in the air

643
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: as to what's going to happen with the regime there

644
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: and what's going to happen, why would you take that risk?

645
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you just take that money and then just invest

646
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: it back into the Gulf of Mexico, the Golf of

647
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: America or the premium basin in Texas. You know that's

648
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. And if I were oil baron which

649
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: I'm not, I put my money in the known commodity.

650
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: We're safe. There's a certain amount of risk just thrilling

651
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: for oil. If you watch Landman, you get it. I

652
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: think a decent I always talk to us. Should have

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Speaker 1: got a guest come up and ask him about that.

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Speaker 1: How real Landman is. But yeah, its cost it. It's

655
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Speaker 1: incredible on money and risky to try and drill for oil.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's risky enough here in the States, in

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Speaker 1: the Permian basin. It's going to be much much risk

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Speaker 1: here to invest with all that money in Venezuela, considering

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Speaker 1: the political climate and what the hell's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Can't imagine. No, we're gonna do this and we're just

661
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Speaker 2: gonna run it.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: I think we're going to start taking the oil reserves

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Speaker 2: out quickly.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's gonna happen or not quite honestly,

666
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Speaker 1: but we shall see, we shall see. We've got news

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Speaker 1: on the way in about seven eight minutes here on

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Speaker 1: seven hundred WW Richard Harrison stands by with the Hamil

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Speaker 1: County Water District. You hear a lot about microplastic in

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Speaker 1: this time of year as we start to ramp up

671
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Speaker 1: the news cycle again because there's really not a hell

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Speaker 1: of a lot going outside of Venezuela. You hear about

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Speaker 1: a lot about microplastics and what of the fact that

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Speaker 1: fiction here when it comes to our drinking water here

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Speaker 1: in the Tri State for sure. So he'll jump in

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Speaker 1: next later on the show, Julie Hattersheer and Scott angel

677
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Speaker 1: Is the oil expert I was talking about and what

678
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Speaker 1: this actually means for energy prices all to some war.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to Scott about in just a few minutes

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Speaker 1: as well. Breaking news out of Cleveland this morning, Kevin

681
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Speaker 1: Stefanski has been fired as the Browns head coach. He

682
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Speaker 1: goes out with a win yesterday at PEKR Stadium. So

683
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Speaker 1: the Browns fired their head coach despite the fact they won.

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00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: No word about our coach and Zach Taylor and Cincinnatian

685
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: one would believe that his job is safe because I

686
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Speaker 1: think with the I think of this organization you have

687
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Speaker 1: if you go to the playoffs, but let alone with

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, you're good for fifteen years. I really

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Speaker 1: believe that's the case. Now you went to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Wait a year five, You're fine, No big deal, think Stefanski.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they're gonna Bengals fans going, well, what about

692
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: bringing Kevin Stefanski down. He wouldn't have to change driver's license.

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Speaker 1: That's true. It's a big plus because it's a pain

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Speaker 1: in the butt going the d I don't care who

695
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: you are, how much money you have, you got to

696
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: go to the DMV yourself to change your driver's license.

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Speaker 1: It could be incentive there for him to come to Cincinnati,

698
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: But how much of an upgrade really? I think you're

699
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Speaker 1: getting an upgrade, but I don't know it could be

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Speaker 1: all that much. With Stefanski, two time Coach of the

701
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Speaker 1: Year is pretty good and as we know, it's not

702
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Speaker 1: Zach Taylor and willing to give him a pass or

703
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Speaker 1: sometimes simply because things have to change relative to the

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Speaker 1: personnel that you draft, but also go back to what

705
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Speaker 1: you did a few years ago free agency, hopefully to decide, hey,

706
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Speaker 1: we're going to go in and push our chips in

707
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Speaker 1: the middle of the table. Now do they have the

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Speaker 1: resources in the front office to get that kind of talent? Well,

709
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: they have in the past, it's easier to get talent

710
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: and free agency than it is to draft. And you know,

711
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Speaker 1: with the NFL Draft coming on end to April, and

712
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: it's not like we keep hearing ay, yeah, they've ad

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00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: more bodies and specialists and the like in order to

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Speaker 1: assert discern which which players to get which not. So

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00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, we still manage to have the smallest scouting

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00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: staff and all of the National Football League despite any

717
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: a few bodies, but we're woefully behind that category. That

718
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: those are the things that have to change if you

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Speaker 1: hope for success in the future at the Bengals, because

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00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: right now it looks like that Super Bowl run was

721
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 1: just in the AFC Championship games were lightning in a bottle,

722
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: like we had a bunch of guys got you, no

723
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: one saw it coming, and you were able to take

724
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Speaker 1: over the league. Well, now the rest of league has

725
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: caught up and surpassed you in so many ways, let

726
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: alone the defense. But anyway, Kevin Stefanski gone the next

727
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Speaker 1: head coach. I don't know if you're gonna hear any

728
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: more today. I would think that after the wild card run,

729
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: if you get some teams that wind up losing in

730
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Speaker 1: the wild Card rown next week weekend, you're gonna hear

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Speaker 1: maybe some more coaching changes if there's some upsets in

732
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Speaker 1: there as well. Anyway, we got all that morek to come,

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Speaker 1: including news in about five here on the home of

734
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Speaker 1: the best Bengals coverage. Let's change that the home of

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Speaker 1: the Reds seven hundred WW Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: Do want to be an American idiot?

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty six got so long?

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Speaker 1: But on seven hundred WW had I hope you had

739
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Speaker 1: an enjoyable one, be it Christmas, New Years or whatever

740
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Speaker 1: the hell does you do?

741
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 2: Get some downtime for you? That's good.

742
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Speaker 1: One of the things you don't think about, So it's

743
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: a good time to I don't know, touch on these

744
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: things this time of here, when it slows down a

745
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: little bit, to put your little thinking hat on would

746
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: be the state of our water supply.

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Speaker 2: Well, often don't think about that.

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00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: Right you turn your tap on, you have a glass

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00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: of water, you make, boil, some pasta, something along the

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Speaker 1: lines wherever, you don't think too much about it. As

751
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: we know, for years now we have started to learn

752
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 1: more and more about microplastics that are in our water system,

753
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: and of course enough of that in you will kill

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Speaker 1: you because it's a known carcinogen.

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Speaker 2: So what is the state of our water supply here

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Speaker 2: in the Buckeye State.

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot with the EPA that's been made

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Speaker 1: and special federally Ohio EPN or Mike and Whine did

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00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: this a few years to get a study to find

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Speaker 1: out where the stuff is coming from, to try and

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Speaker 1: figure out the source. And if you look at a

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Speaker 1: map of our local water treatment plants, we have two

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Speaker 1: big ones here. We have the Richard Miller Frank Harris

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Speaker 1: Senior Treatment Plant that's the source of about oh ninety

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Speaker 1: percent of our water in Cincinnati, and then the other

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Speaker 1: one is the Cincinnati water Works facility I think up

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Speaker 1: in the in I want to say Fairfield area too

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Speaker 1: as well, that supplies some drinking water. But I don't

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Speaker 1: know much about that other than I turned the foster

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Speaker 1: to the shower head on and stuff comes out, and

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Speaker 1: I hope it's okay to drink and use. The guy

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Speaker 1: that could tell me not to do that is Richard Harrison.

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Speaker 1: He's the executive Director and chief engineer for the Ohio

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Speaker 1: River Valley Water Sanitation Commission known as ARONSCO.

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Speaker 2: Richard, welcome back.

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Speaker 5: To the show.

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Speaker 6: Good to have you. Thank you, Scott. I appreciate you

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Speaker 6: inviting me to join you today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know this is well. I mean, I guess

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Speaker 1: what comes out of the faucet. It's outside of your

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Speaker 1: scope because you do more with intake in the waterways.

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Speaker 1: But that's where this thing starts. If we can stop

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Speaker 1: this stuff from getting into the water, it's a more

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Speaker 1: cost effective solution than trying to treat it to the end.

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Speaker 1: It's always the case, is whether it's this or healthcare

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Speaker 1: or anything else for that matter. But let's start with

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Speaker 1: the pfas saying what do we need to know about this,

788
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Speaker 1: where does it come from, and what are the links

789
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Speaker 1: to our health?

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 6: PFASs is a very complex group of chemicals and the

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Speaker 6: technical name for them is per and polypori alcohol substances.

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Speaker 6: As you correctly noted, p FOSS is how they are

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Speaker 6: known through their acronym, and they are a group of

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Speaker 6: man made chemicals that are found everywhere. They're applied to

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Speaker 6: many consumer goods to make them waterproof, stain resistant, or

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Speaker 6: non stick. They're also used in products like cosmetics, fast

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Speaker 6: food packaging, and types of firefighting foam. Specifically, something called

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Speaker 6: a triple F so they're essentially everywhere. They're very long

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Speaker 6: lasting chemicals by design, they're man made chemicals, and that

801
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 6: was the attraction to them back in the forties when

802
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Speaker 6: these chemicals were identified and created and put together because

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Speaker 6: of those tendencies that they last an extensive period of time.

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Speaker 6: It can take several years for them the breakdown within

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Speaker 6: our bodies. That's why there's also culled furbal chemicals.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so what happens is kind of like a lead poisoning.

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Speaker 2: For example.

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Speaker 1: We know your body doesn't create a waste product for it.

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Speaker 1: It accumulates, So the more you're exposed to it, the

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Speaker 1: more it builds up in your body.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, and because they can come from from anywhere, many

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Speaker 6: many pathways, and of course we're talking about drinking water

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Speaker 6: as one of those pathways, but certainly they come from

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Speaker 6: other pathways the air, food products, again, clothing. So it's

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Speaker 6: a challenge.

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Speaker 1: Well, your job is tasked with trying to prevent it

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Speaker 1: from getting in the drinking water supply in the first place.

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Speaker 6: How's that going, Well, maybe we can step back and

819
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Speaker 6: just talk about the process. So USCPA has invested a

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Speaker 6: lot of resources in trying to determine how to remove

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Speaker 6: these chemicals from many different sources. And we're talking about

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Speaker 6: drinking water, so as we talked about the rivers and

823
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Speaker 6: waters what we work with within the Higowa Basin. Of course,

824
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Speaker 6: the Higher River is the largest body of water. They're

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Speaker 6: approaching this from several different directions. Of course, drinking water

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Speaker 6: is one which we're talking about to day, but also

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Speaker 6: there's something called the Clean Water Act, so we're talking

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Speaker 6: about the Safe Drinking Water Act, and we talked about

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Speaker 6: maximum contaminate levels and regulations for utilities. But also when

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Speaker 6: you talk about the Clean Water Act, you're talking about

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Speaker 6: the sources of water, and we talk about making water fishable, swimmable,

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Speaker 6: and drinkable. And that's ensuring that the Higher River and

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Speaker 6: other surface waters are suitable for fish being able to

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Speaker 6: live and survive bugs, macro verbrates, but also for human

835
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Speaker 6: health we consume fish, and also the utilities have to

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Speaker 6: have a water supply that is safe, so that's a

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Speaker 6: whole other area. We're expecting to have draft criteria for

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Speaker 6: the surface waters for human health later this summer, and

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Speaker 6: that's really when Orsenko we'll get more involved with our

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Speaker 6: partner states to really figure out what's next?

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Speaker 4: All right?

842
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Speaker 2: So we should people be freaking out about this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's been it's you said, it's been the

844
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Speaker 1: better ren since the forties, and it's taken a while

845
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Speaker 1: for getting our drinking water. And it's probably a case

846
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: where our equipment and our testing abilities have gotten much

847
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: much better, more granular, if you will. And so we're

848
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Speaker 1: now we're seeing stuff we never could see before. But

849
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Speaker 1: we know that this is a known cursin egen, that

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Speaker 1: it causes some bad things to happen within the human body,

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Speaker 1: and obviously we want to prevent that as well. But

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Speaker 1: how concerned should we be? Do you drink out of

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00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: the water the water you're talking about? You turning your

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Speaker 1: faucet on, you're drinking tap? Are you doing doing bottle?

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Speaker 5: Richard?

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Speaker 6: I do tap? So I used to be the vice

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Speaker 6: president of engineering, production and Distribution for North Kentucky Water District,

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Speaker 6: one of the large utilities on the High River. And

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Speaker 6: we're very fortunate that Kentucky Water District. Then, of course,

860
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Speaker 6: gar used to state water works to the majority of

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Speaker 6: their water adds grainuar activated carbon treatments to their process

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Speaker 6: and that has been shown to be very effective. Ever,

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Speaker 6: removing carbon.

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Speaker 4: But I drink tap water.

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Speaker 6: I feel very comfortable with it. A lot of discussion

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Speaker 6: here is about overall risk. These compounds are everywhere. I'm

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Speaker 6: very proud to be part of a water resource sector

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Speaker 6: that works so hard to protect our drinking water supply

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00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 6: in our river. So I think it's a matter of

870
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 6: risk and balancing risk, and there's a lot we don't know.

871
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 6: There are over let's see here. Let me make sure

872
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 6: I give you the right information. But we're talking about

873
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 6: over one hundred and sixty million chemicals are known through

874
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 6: the World Health Organization, about eighty five thousand of these

875
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 6: USCPA lists on the Inventory of substances through the Toxic

876
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 6: Substances Control Act. There are over four thousand pifoss chemicals

877
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 6: in less than one hundred are regulated through MCL. So

878
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 6: this is extremely complex. You covered it very well when

879
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 6: you mentioned we're learning more. We now know that through

880
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 6: EPA toxicity studies that there's actually more p huss in

881
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 6: rain water than is considered to be protective in terms

882
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 6: of human health. And so this is very complex. So

883
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 6: there's a lot we don't know, and it's a matter

884
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 6: of just balancing risk. We all pay for this response

885
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 6: through as customers. So we're customers of wonderful water utilities,

886
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 6: wastewater utilities, and it's just a matter of how much

887
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 6: investment goes into this and benefit costs ratios. So this

888
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 6: is very complex, but it's certainly not something I'm losing sleepover,

889
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 6: but it is important that we continue to understand these

890
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 6: chemicals and remove them at the sources if possible.

891
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: Well, that's the key, because it goes in the rain water,

892
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: then that goes to water our crops, the food that

893
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: we eat goes into our drinking water through groundwater, through

894
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 1: the rivers and streams, et cetera, et cetera. Richard Harrison,

895
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: active Director and Chief Engineer for the Ohio River Valley

896
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: Water Sanitation Commission ARONSCO is what they're called. These are

897
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: the folks who test our drinking water. And there's concern

898
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: over something called pifos p fas, and those are basically

899
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: microplastics that accumulate in your body. So plastics do break

900
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: down to some degree that gets in the drinking water

901
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: and it's so fine that the filtration systems in the

902
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: carbon it doesn't catch that, and it builds up in

903
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: your body over time and it's a known carcinogen. We

904
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: don't know the long term I mean, I guess we

905
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: do know the long long term effects. But that is

906
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: the current target now for water treatment people like Richard

907
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: to try and eliminate that from our water system, if

908
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: that's indeed possible. Now, Ohio, we're still pretty good considering

909
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: other states New Jersey probably manufacturing and military, Michigan more

910
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 1: automotive manufacturing, and therefore you have a lot of chemicals

911
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: that are in the groundwater supply, which is why they're

912
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: seeing levels that are over the top.

913
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 2: Here in Ohio not as much.

914
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: However, I will say that I was looking at two

915
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: of our bigger plants here, the Harris Treatment plant to

916
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: ge it provides about ninety percent of Cincinnati's water. They

917
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: didn't find any measurable levels there, But if you go

918
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: up to Fairfield, the plant there said they were almost

919
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: in the danger zone. It's really not that far away

920
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: as far as distance goes. But how do you describe

921
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: the disparity one plant showing no results the other one.

922
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: The Neil's moving pretty well well, Skot.

923
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 6: You talked a little bit earlier in our conversation about

924
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 6: the technology and the level of detections. What I find

925
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 6: fascinating is through uscpa's research, and to be clear or

926
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 6: Senko does not work in the toxicology end of things.

927
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 6: We work in the monitoring response to skills. I spoke

928
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 6: with you last year about our response to these Palestine

929
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 6: chemical train derailment still and so our area is working

930
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 6: on the water quality and one of the challenges we

931
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 6: have is now UCPA has determined that the levels of

932
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 6: these are in the parts for quadrulean, and the technology

933
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 6: to actually measure these are into parts of petroleum. So

934
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 6: we're trying to find these and levels that are a

935
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 6: thousand times more stringent then we can actually measure them.

936
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 6: So it is something that is a challenge. And so

937
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 6: when you talk about disparities between cretent plants, it's important

938
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 6: to understand that when USCPA puts together these types of regulations,

939
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 6: they're looking at a lifetime risk and it's based upon

940
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 6: an average person around one hundred and fifty pounds, which

941
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 6: I certainly am over that, but they're looking at consuming

942
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 6: a half gallon of water every day over seventy years

943
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 6: and a one in a million increase in cancer risk.

944
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 6: And we're very fortunate to have this type of work

945
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 6: to protect us from a risk standpoint, But it is

946
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 6: important to understand what goes into these types of calculations

947
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 6: and they are determined in a way to be very

948
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 6: protective of human hell, so the variations, you know, we're

949
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 6: talking about parts petrillion, it's really difficult to even measure

950
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 6: these below four parts petrilliu in terms of accuracy. And

951
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 6: so this is an evolving science and we're only talking

952
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 6: about a handful out of four thousand pfus chemicals. So

953
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 6: it's something that there'll be more work in this USCPA

954
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 6: every five years does what they.

955
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 4: Call a.

956
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 6: Contaminant monitoring process the Safe Drinking Water Act, and there's

957
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 6: over twenty of these being looked at in the current ones.

958
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 6: So this is an ongoing effort.

959
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: Richard Harrison, what may ask, are we just trying to

960
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: scare people the compliance and you're telling me the equipment

961
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: we have can't even measure and the great greatest detail

962
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: of what this stuff is in our bodies. I mean,

963
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: let's face it, the air that we breathe, the milk

964
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: that we drink, the food we consume, it all has

965
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 1: something toxic in it. I mean, you know there's arsenic

966
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,959
Speaker 1: in our food, but it's trace amounts. There's rat poop

967
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: in your cheerios, but it's trace amounts. Is any different.

968
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 6: I'm very proud to work in a field that is

969
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 6: so protective. USCPA follows the law to say Drinking Water

970
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 6: Act when they put this together. I'm not the right

971
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 6: person to talk about toxic coology. I will say that

972
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 6: risk is a question and it's something that we have

973
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 6: to look at. They're doing their job, they're looking at

974
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 6: the science as where they's drinking water. But as you say,

975
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 6: there is risk from everything, and so just the water infrastructure.

976
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 6: You know, I always like to say every dollar we

977
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 6: invest as customers in a new regulation makes it harder

978
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 6: to put that dollar in replacement of water bots. And

979
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 6: so it's something that is very complex and we all

980
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 6: have to be engaged in this. We have to understand it.

981
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 6: We're the ones that are paying for this through our

982
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 6: rates as customers, and I'm knowing working with our utilities,

983
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 6: we're lucky to have incredible drinking water utilities in our areas.

984
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 6: So I'm not going to touch a political question. That's

985
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 6: not where our sinker gets gets involved. But it's a

986
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 6: fair question to talk about the overall risk and just balancing.

987
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: That because you hear this stuff and people usually it's

988
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 1: new parents start freaking out about this stuff and they

989
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: start washing there.

990
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: You know, they have their dishwasher.

991
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: Water coming out of a giant bottle of Desani and

992
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: it's cost prohibitive and everything else. If I use like

993
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: a Britta filter on top of my tap water, does

994
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: a Britta filter take this stuff out or reverse osmosis?

995
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 6: Well, I won't talk about Britta because it's a brand name,

996
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 6: but I will say that there are filters that can

997
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 6: be added if if folks want to do that, they can.

998
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 6: They can certainly contact their their doctors if they're if

999
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 6: they're concerned about this. So keep in mind that the

1000
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 6: SDA currently is not regulating bottle of water for pifoss

1001
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 6: and so this is very complex. I would I would

1002
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 6: just talk to folks in which I'm doing, and just

1003
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 6: that it's all. It's all about balance, it's understanding how

1004
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 6: complex this is. And USCPA is doing their job, or

1005
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 6: State EPA is Ohio EPA, Kentucky Divisional Water, Indiana Department

1006
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 6: Environment Management, they all work within this area. They're they're

1007
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 6: working as hard as they can on this and This

1008
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 6: is complex and it's all about managing risk in safety

1009
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 6: and following the lulls that that we we have approved

1010
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 6: through Congress, say Drinking Water Act, Clean Water Acting. So

1011
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 6: that's what USCPA is trying to do. They would have

1012
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 6: they would be the ones to talk to you about

1013
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 6: all the science behind it. This is very complex.

1014
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 2: Scott, Yeah, yeah.

1015
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: I mean, if if you're so inclined, you know, you

1016
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: could do a filter system. I use the word britt

1017
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: of because it's like clean X or Jello. It's a

1018
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 1: it's a brand name that's become common. And I look

1019
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,439
Speaker 1: at this and go, okay, yeah, look at the risk.

1020
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: Listen to what you had to say. You know, you're

1021
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: drinking the tap water. You see this stuff under a microscope.

1022
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: We don't. And if it's good enough for you, it's

1023
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 2: good enough for me.

1024
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: I sleep well knowing that the drinking water being policed

1025
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: by yourself, people like yourself, and you're more at the

1026
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: source end. We talked during the East Palestine disaster about

1027
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: the plume that was traveling down the Ohio River. You

1028
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: guys had it all timed out saying, oh, we're tracking it.

1029
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: Everything's good.

1030
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: It moved out. It dissipated and all is well at

1031
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 2: this point too.

1032
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: So if you want to lose sleep over this and

1033
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 1: get down a rabbit hole, I'm sure there's stuff online

1034
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: that'll scare the hell out of you. However, it is

1035
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: safe to say that most of us aren't one hundred

1036
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: and fifty pounds. I would like to talk next to

1037
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: if you, I'm gonna have Richard as a guy who

1038
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: sets the average weight for Americans because I think he's

1039
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: a little drunk.

1040
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 6: Well that's that's the science behind develop these criterias. But

1041
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 6: I'm not near one hundred and fifty pounds.

1042
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 7: I just flew.

1043
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: I just flew, and there are maybe two people on

1044
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: the plane there were one hundred and fifty pounds, and

1045
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: it included the toddlers.

1046
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 2: So yeah, well, I mean it's true.

1047
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: So what you're saying is if you weigh more, then

1048
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: you can absorb, you can absorb more p foss or

1049
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: is that true or.

1050
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna really say that. What I'm saying is

1051
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 6: the background that USCPA uses to complete their studies, and

1052
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 6: so it's important to understand when criteria put out it's

1053
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 6: it's based on a specific methodology that they follow from

1054
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 6: a science basis.

1055
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 2: I was trying to make an excuse and say, see

1056
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: that's the upside to obesity. You can.

1057
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: Richard Harrison, the executive director, is the chief engineer at

1058
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 1: the Ohio River Valley Water Sanitation Commission. He's the guy

1059
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: policing our water sources in and around Ohio and elsewhere.

1060
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 1: And Richard, I appreciate you coming on the show. I

1061
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: know I didn't want you talking out over your skis

1062
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: a little bit there. I asked you some questions that

1063
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: were outside of your scope, but I appreciate you coming

1064
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 1: on and trying to give us a basic understanding whether

1065
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: or not our drinking water is safe.

1066
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 6: And it sounds like it is always a pleasure. Scott,

1067
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 6: take care.

1068
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: Thank you once again, and we've got a news update

1069
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: in just minutes. Here our first Mental Health Monday update.

1070
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: Julie Hattershar's next Scott's loan seven hundred w. Everyone needs

1071
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: he every now and then, and she'sier to help us

1072
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: get our heads right.

1073
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 2: This is Mental Health Monday with Mental health expert Julie Hattershire. Yeah,

1074
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 2: first one of the new year.

1075
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: Here we are on the fifth day of January and

1076
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,479
Speaker 1: the resolutions have been gone for four and a half days.

1077
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: It's awesome. Four and a half days, Julie, welcome back.

1078
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: How are you, my friend?

1079
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 7: Hey, I'm great. Happy New Year.

1080
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just too hard to do those resolutions, lose

1081
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: the way to exercise, like, yeah, you know what, I'm good? Well, yeah,

1082
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: what you feel like at this point too? Being the

1083
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Speaker 1: fifth of January, the year's almost over.

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Speaker 5: So till twenty twenty why bother?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, I'll start fresh twenty twenties up?

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Speaker 4: Why not?

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Speaker 1: That's the big I don't know how many people actually

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Speaker 1: do resolutions or try to stick to them, but it's

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Speaker 1: our old friend will power. Willpower is a tough mother,

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Speaker 1: isn't it.

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Speaker 7: Will Power is really hard. It's you know, it is

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Speaker 7: easy to start to lose focus on things over the

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Speaker 7: course of a day or a week, and will power

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Speaker 7: and making decisions consistently is hard. So one of the

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Speaker 7: things that I thought we could talk about today is

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Speaker 7: what you should put sort of on autopilot and create

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Speaker 7: habits around and what you should maybe be more intentional

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Speaker 7: and mindful about, because you can't be intentional and mindful

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Speaker 7: about everything, all right?

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Speaker 2: So what does that mean?

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Speaker 7: Well, so there's this concept called decision fatigue, and we

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Speaker 7: all wake up with a certain amount of energy every

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Speaker 7: day and it varies, right, But the more decisions we

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Speaker 7: have to make over the course of a day, the

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Speaker 7: more it becomes difficult to make another decision. Just like

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Speaker 7: you know, it's a muscle that you use. The more

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Speaker 7: you work your muscle, sometimes the harder it becomes to

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Speaker 7: continue to do that. So one of the things that

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Speaker 7: we wanted to talk about was what are the kinds

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Speaker 7: of things that you should build habits around that you

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Speaker 7: should put on autopilot and give very little thought to,

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Speaker 7: And what are the things that it makes sense to

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Speaker 7: be more careful and more mindful about and optimize for

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Speaker 7: because you can't put everything on autopilot, and you certainly

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Speaker 7: can't be mindful and optimized for everything. And if you

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00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 7: can decide what to do what with, then that helps

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Speaker 7: keeping whatever your resolutions are or reaching whatever your goals are,

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Speaker 7: that helps make that a little bit easier.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so let's start with that jump in.

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Speaker 2: Take me through that.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So okay, So.

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Speaker 7: What we know about building habits is that it takes

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Speaker 7: a few weeks for your brain to wire an activity

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Speaker 7: into a habit. The timeline varies, but let's just say.

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Speaker 5: A few weeks.

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Speaker 7: And so if we think of things like most of

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Speaker 7: us brush our teeth at least a couple of times

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Speaker 7: a day in the morning and before we go to bed.

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Speaker 7: This is not something we think about.

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Speaker 4: We just do this.

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Speaker 7: That's the kind of habit that we want to build

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Speaker 7: around some things, and it takes a few weeks to

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Speaker 7: be able to do that. So if one of your resolutions,

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Speaker 7: and for many people it is, is to become more

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Speaker 7: physically fit, then what you probably need to consider doing

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Speaker 7: and is building a routine of building a habit around

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Speaker 7: going to the gym or getting up and working out,

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Speaker 7: or going after work and working out, whatever your plan is,

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Speaker 7: and start doing that consistently for several weeks until it

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Speaker 7: becomes automatic. You don't think about it anymore. You're not

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Speaker 7: wondering whether you're.

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Speaker 6: Going to go.

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Speaker 7: You've already got your gym bag passed, your clothes laid out,

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Speaker 7: you're ready to rock and roll. And then you've automated that.

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Speaker 7: You don't have to think about it anymore. So now

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Speaker 7: you have brain power and energy for other things.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, that makes sense, right, You lay your

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Speaker 1: clothes out, the day before, so you're ready to go.

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Speaker 1: It's one last thing you've got to make an excuse

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Speaker 1: for the day of, like, oh, I can't find my

1151
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Speaker 1: shoes wherever they are, so I'll just skip it today.

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Speaker 1: But if it's all ready to go, then you wake

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Speaker 1: up and you know you can focus on other things.

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Speaker 7: That makes sense exactly so often. Another one that people

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Speaker 7: have is they want to eat healthier throughout the week,

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Speaker 7: and so one of the things that can be really

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Speaker 7: helpful is to come up with ten or twelve dinners

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Speaker 7: that you know you like, that you have easy ingredients for,

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Speaker 7: and that you know fit your lifestyle and your family's tastes,

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Speaker 7: and put those on rotation. So you just run through

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Speaker 7: that list. If it's tacos on Tuesday, then it was

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Speaker 7: on you on Thursday, then it's something else on Sunday.

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Speaker 7: You just run through the list. You don't have to

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Speaker 7: wonder what you're going to make. You don't have to

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Speaker 7: wonder whether you have the ingredients. You keep everything on hand,

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Speaker 7: and you just roll through that. And if you do

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Speaker 7: ten or twelve over the course of a month, since

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Speaker 7: most people don't eat home every night of the month,

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Speaker 7: you're probably only going to have that meal a couple

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Speaker 7: of times a months, and if it's something you like,

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Speaker 7: that's not a bad thing. But you've automated the dinner process.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, what about if your problem is portion control?

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Speaker 1: Are you just going to eat all five beers in

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Speaker 1: one night?

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Speaker 4: Now? What do you do?

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Speaker 5: Smart?

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Speaker 4: Ask?

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Speaker 2: Give me an answer to that.

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Speaker 7: That's where you need to be more mindful. That's one

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Speaker 7: of those decisions, one of those situations where you need

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Speaker 7: to be a little more careful and you need to

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Speaker 7: think how much should I actually eat? How hungry am I? Truly?

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Speaker 7: What have I had over the course of my day

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Speaker 7: to day. But if you don't have to autumn, if

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Speaker 7: you don't have to think about all of the things

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Speaker 7: you're doing over the course of the day, then you

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Speaker 7: have more brain power for the things that actually require

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Speaker 7: some willpower, some decision making, some care.

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Speaker 5: And some thought.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Or you could just maybe prepackage the portions up

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Speaker 1: and then do it that way too.

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Speaker 7: Exactly exactly, and a lot of people do that. They

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Speaker 7: do meal prep for breakfast and lunch, They prepackage everything.

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Speaker 7: Some people do it for dinner as well, and then

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Speaker 7: there's your meal, it's already done. You don't have to

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Speaker 7: think about it, and so that's one less thing you

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Speaker 7: have to think about, so you can focus on other things,

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Speaker 7: put your energy toward other things that actually make a

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Speaker 7: positive impact on your life or help you reach your goals.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but when we know that that pattern setting takes

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Speaker 1: about what good thirty to forty days or something like that.

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Speaker 7: True, Yeah, it takes a few weeks. It depends on

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Speaker 7: the pattern and depends on how quickly you adapt, but

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Speaker 7: it takes a few weeks. And what we know is

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Speaker 7: that once the brain has that pattern set, it can

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Speaker 7: be really difficult to break, which is why sometimes we

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Speaker 7: need to be careful and mindful about the things that

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Speaker 7: we already have on autopilot and we need to maybe

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Speaker 7: take a look at them and say, is this actually

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Speaker 7: serving my goals and my needs? Is this really the

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Speaker 7: best way to do it? So, for example, I tend

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Speaker 7: to drive to work the same way every day. It

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Speaker 7: uses a highway. Sometimes it's full and packed and crowded,

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Speaker 7: and sometimes it's not. There actually is a better way

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Speaker 7: for me to get to work. I just don't do it.

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Speaker 7: So I need to be more mindful about optimizing my

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Speaker 7: drive to work and less habitual about that so that

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Speaker 7: I end up getting there faster and with less stress.

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Speaker 1: Part of this too, you know, as much as creatures

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Speaker 1: and habits, our brains actually like some sense of not

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Speaker 1: like a new challenge they.

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Speaker 7: Do, and brains are energy conserving, they want to do

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Speaker 7: things the easiest possible way. But our reward centers are Dopamine,

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Speaker 7: which is our reward center of our brain likes new challenges,

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Speaker 7: It likes rewards, It likes accomplishment, it likes to be engaged,

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Speaker 7: and it likes novelty, and so we tend to crave

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Speaker 7: that as much as we tend to crave habitual expectable results.

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Speaker 7: And so it's a balance between what are we going

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Speaker 7: to reward our brain with dopamine for and what are

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Speaker 7: we going to automate so that we have more energy

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Speaker 7: and more time available to do the things that actually

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Speaker 7: are rewarding to us. Yes, our brains crave.

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Speaker 1: Novelty, all right, So we've got to tap into that element.

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Speaker 1: But again, after three or four repetitions, or maybe a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks, it becomes a pattern. You just kind

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Speaker 1: of fall into it. So it's interesting the way you

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Speaker 1: describe that, though it's all set up to succeed, and

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Speaker 1: yet we continue to fail.

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Speaker 2: Why is that?

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Speaker 7: Because I think to some extent, we are habitualizing the

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Speaker 7: wrong things and rewarding the habitualizing and rewarding the wrong things.

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Speaker 7: So if we look at social media, for example, social

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Speaker 7: media is something that many of us habitually go to

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Speaker 7: when we have any downtime on our hands at all,

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Speaker 7: rather than doing something that might be productive in our lives.

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Speaker 7: We scroll, we doom scroll, we Facebook, we instagram, we whatever.

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Speaker 7: There are rewards associated with that. We get the dopamine

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Speaker 7: hits of the quick fixes of information and pictures and engagement,

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Speaker 7: but it actually doesn't serve us very well. So we've

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Speaker 7: got the habit of going to social media. It has

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Speaker 7: the rewards associated with it, but it isn't actually serving

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Speaker 7: our goals, our development, our life in any significant way.

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Speaker 7: Although the social media gurus would hate to hear me

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Speaker 7: say that.

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Speaker 2: That's true, it's true.

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Speaker 1: And often the ones that are going to be better

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Speaker 1: for you are not ones is enjoyable social media or

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Speaker 1: I don't know, drinking or eating, whatever it might be.

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Speaker 1: What are your habits, you know, sitting down a TV

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Speaker 1: and mindless eating a bag of cheetos for example, that's

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Speaker 1: a tough habit to break, it.

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Speaker 7: Is, and that's tough because it's got the reward associated

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Speaker 7: with the flavor of the cheetos and the mindlessness of

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Speaker 7: the TV. But it's got the habitual thing that that's

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Speaker 7: what they do when I get home from work, I

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Speaker 7: grab a bag of cheetos, they sit down in front

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Speaker 7: of the TV, or a crack a beer. I open

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Speaker 7: a bottle of wine and pour myself a glass. A

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Speaker 7: minute I walk in the door. That's the habit part

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Speaker 7: of it, and the reward part of it is the wine,

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Speaker 7: the cheetos, the TV, the beer, whatever. And so when

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Speaker 7: those two things combine, when you've got the habitual and

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Speaker 7: the reward, it becomes very difficult to break because the

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Speaker 7: mindlessness of the habit makes it just happen before you've

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Speaker 7: even thought about it, and the reward.

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Speaker 5: Keeps you coming back for more nature.

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Speaker 7: So it's about understanding which one you need to tackle first.

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Speaker 7: Do you tackle the reward first, remove the reward, or

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Speaker 7: do you tackle the habitual part. Remove the habit and

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Speaker 7: make it a more mindful thing, make it harder to

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Speaker 7: get the cheetos right right?

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Speaker 2: Okay, it just sounds like kind of This is what

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Speaker 2: high level athletes do, right, is that.

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Speaker 1: You know the automating, the healthy habits it becomes you know,

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Speaker 1: you practice and practice and practice. For example, golf swing

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Speaker 1: could be throwing a football whatever, and then in a

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Speaker 1: game situation, you don't think about it just automatically happens exactly.

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Speaker 7: So let's use golf swing for an example. So most

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Speaker 7: I don't play golf, but I know a lot of

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Speaker 7: people who do, and I know that you do. Have

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Speaker 7: you ever changed your grip or tried to change your

1292
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Speaker 7: swing all the time?

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Speaker 1: I hate my game, okay, okay, and so I think

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Speaker 1: I need a psychologist actually probably more than a code.

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Speaker 7: At first, that's a really hard thing to do, and

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Speaker 7: it feels really awkward and it doesn't feel natural or

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Speaker 7: and it doesn't seem to work at first. And then

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Speaker 7: the longer you stick with it, the more you build

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Speaker 7: the habit, the more practice you build in, the more

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Speaker 7: automated and muscle memory it becomes, the more effective and fluid.

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Speaker 7: Ideally your swing or your grip becomes. If not, then

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Speaker 7: you change it again, but ideally you practice it and

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Speaker 7: it becomes and then it becomes automatic. Then you don't

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Speaker 7: have to think about it. Then you have taken that

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Speaker 7: decision making and that thought process out of it. It's

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Speaker 7: now muscle memory. You can just swing. So that's an

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Speaker 7: example of taking something that is new, doing it often

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Speaker 7: enough that it becomes ahead of it, and then you

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Speaker 7: don't have to think about that. You can think about

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Speaker 7: other things to do with your golf game.

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Speaker 5: That's it.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've spoken so elchoin from someone who doesn't golf.

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Speaker 1: You just don't understand how easy and important to get

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Speaker 1: in your own head.

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Speaker 2: It's one they go, well, your.

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Speaker 1: Practice and practice you just become second nature and you

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Speaker 1: just go out there and then no, you don't. You

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Speaker 1: sit there and you obsess about every little thing in

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Speaker 1: your swing and your back swing and your grip and

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Speaker 1: all these things, and it totally closed your head and

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Speaker 1: you're shank into the woods.

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Speaker 7: Actually, I do know that I was married to the

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Speaker 7: golfer for a long time and I know a lot

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Speaker 7: of them. It is it is a game that gets

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Speaker 7: in your head, isn't it. And so the more that

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Speaker 7: you can habitualize and ritualize things, because this is another

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Speaker 7: thing that all leave lead athletes do. They ritualize things.

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Speaker 7: You see it all the time when guys go up

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Speaker 7: to do free throws in basketball, they have their little routine.

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Speaker 7: They bounce it, bounce it, spin in their hands, bounce it,

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Speaker 7: bounce it, throw And that's how they set their body

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Speaker 7: up to know what's going to happen. And I'm sure

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Speaker 7: you do that in your golf game too, when you

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Speaker 7: get up to the te to address the ball, you

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Speaker 7: do the things, wiggle your feet, you do whatever it

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Speaker 7: is you do to get your body ready to do

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Speaker 7: what it knows it needs to do next. And so

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Speaker 7: the more you can really allow for that to happen,

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Speaker 7: the freer your brain can become. But I'm not saying

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Speaker 7: it's easy. I'm just saying it's possible.

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Speaker 1: Right Well, this time of year, Julie hattersh here comes

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Speaker 1: down and talking about mental health.

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Speaker 2: It comes down to.

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Speaker 1: For most people, diet and exercises are two big ones.

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Speaker 1: And it may be I don't know, coming up being

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Speaker 1: better about money, for example, use that one as an

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Speaker 1: office that one. All right, We always talk about diet

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Speaker 1: and exercise, and it's no one how many people it

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Speaker 1: comes a habit. You like to ride peloton and those

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Speaker 1: and it becomes you know, it becomes a habit after

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Speaker 1: a while, but it's hard at first. But there's a

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Speaker 1: physical thing. What about something like like being better financially,

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Speaker 1: How does that work well.

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Speaker 7: One of the things that you can do to help

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Speaker 7: yourself be better financially is to automate a lot of

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Speaker 7: your financial processes so that you don't have to talk.

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Speaker 7: So you can automate money going directly into a savings

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Speaker 7: account from your paycheck or from your bank account. You

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Speaker 7: can automate having your bills paid so that you don't

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Speaker 7: have to touch them. You can automate some things coming

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Speaker 7: out of your checking account instead of going on your

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Speaker 7: credit cards, so you don't have a big credit card

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Speaker 7: bill at the end of the month. The less you

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Speaker 7: have to actually think about it, the more systems you

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Speaker 7: set up, the better. James clear who wrote this really

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Speaker 7: wonderful book, Atomic Habits, and he's a guy, he's a

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Speaker 7: local guy, he's from Hamilton. He says, we don't rise

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Speaker 7: to the level of our goals, we fall to the

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Speaker 7: level of our systems, which I love. I just think

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Speaker 7: that's a brilliant thing to say. And so the more

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Speaker 7: systems you set up to take care of these things

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Speaker 7: for you, the less inclined you are and the less

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Speaker 7: able you will be to impulsively buy something. If you

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Speaker 7: don't have the money in your bank account, you're less

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Speaker 7: inclined to impulsively buy it. If you have a lower

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Speaker 7: limit on your credit cards and you can ask them

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01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 7: to lower your credit card limit, the less inclined you

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Speaker 7: are to impulsively buy something big. So you can set

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Speaker 7: up systems to guard rail your spending choices, if that's

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Speaker 7: something that you want to work on in the coming year.

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Speaker 2: Very interesting.

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Speaker 1: She's Julie Hattershare, license, mental health therapist here in Sinncia.

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Speaker 1: It's mental Health Monday, first one this new year, and

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Speaker 1: this one is about patterns and failure and how to

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Speaker 1: come up with something that's going to stick in the

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Speaker 1: new year, regardless of it is because willpower does fade.

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Speaker 1: But if you are like an athlete that I'll say

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Speaker 1: practice is that free throw over and over and over

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Speaker 1: again once you get out to play it actually said,

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Speaker 1: it's so ingrained in your pattern to behavior automatically do things,

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Speaker 1: and you can't apply that to the rest of your life.

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Speaker 1: What's things like healthy habits for example, So what happens

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Speaker 1: when automatic fails? Though there are times where you have

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Speaker 1: things set on autopilot and all of a sudden it

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Speaker 1: just doesn't work for you anymore.

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Speaker 2: What about that?

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Speaker 7: Well, then maybe you need to reevaluate if that was,

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Speaker 7: If that still is the right autopilot for you to have,

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Speaker 7: maybe you need to take a look. This is a

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Speaker 7: time that you may need to take a more mindful

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Speaker 7: look at something you've consistently done habitually. Is that actually

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Speaker 7: the best way to do it now? Maybe it served

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Speaker 7: me then whatever then was, Maybe it doesn't serve me now,

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Speaker 7: So take a look, evaluate, assess what other options there

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01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 7: might be, see what else might work better for you.

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Speaker 7: Make some changes, and you will be able to do

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Speaker 7: that more easily because you freed up mental energy and

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Speaker 7: time from automating and sort of habitualizing and ritualizing other

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Speaker 7: things in your life that you can say, Okay, this's working,

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Speaker 7: and now this isn't making sense for me anymore, So

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Speaker 7: what can I do differently? How can I take a

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Speaker 7: look at doing that? And you'll have experience to back

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01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 7: that up. You can take a look at what other

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Speaker 7: options you might have and see if any of them

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Speaker 7: would be better for you. Not everything works all the time.

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Speaker 7: It's not a question of you set it and leave it.

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Speaker 7: But you set it and leave it until it doesn't

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Speaker 7: work for you anymore, and then you reevaluate and say,

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Speaker 7: what could I be doing differently going forward from here?

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Speaker 1: Okay, sounds easier said than done. Julie had or share

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Speaker 1: that license?

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Speaker 6: Well it is.

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Speaker 7: It's easy to say.

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Speaker 1: Licensed metal health therapist out of Clifton at be Connected

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Speaker 1: dot care. You can reach her if you've got a

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Speaker 1: maybe a subject for a future conversation, idea problem you're having. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Julie at the letter B that's be Connected at dot care.

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Speaker 1: She joins to show Monday Mornings on metal Health Monday.

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Speaker 1: All the best, Thanks again, looking forward to a great

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Speaker 1: new year, me too, be well with news on the

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Speaker 1: way in just a couple of minutes when to return.

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Speaker 1: At eleven oh seven, Scott Angeel is here. He's from

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Speaker 1: the Bayu. He's an oil man himself, oil expert. And

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Speaker 1: what does this venezuela mean? Venezuela mean? Okay, So we're

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Speaker 1: going to run the country, presumably to get oil out

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Speaker 1: of the ground, which has already been stated by the President,

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Speaker 1: Marco Ruby and everyone else. And we're going and take

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Speaker 1: those resources out outside of managing the country, which is

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Speaker 1: a whole different beast entirely. Let's say we actually do that.

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Speaker 1: What incentive is there for oil companies to go to Venezuela?

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Speaker 1: I mean think about this way. You have the premium

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Speaker 1: basin here in the United States, uh, and we know

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Speaker 1: that's not going anywhere whereas with Venezuela if the political

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Speaker 1: wins shift, if we don't do what we think we

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Speaker 1: want to do or have the the FRUI should do

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Speaker 1: that make it come to fruition. Are these companies going

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Speaker 1: to go there and invest tens of billions of dollars

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Speaker 1: for something they might not get a return on investment.

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Speaker 1: And with oil prices being as well as they are

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Speaker 1: right now, is there incentive for oil companies to go

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Speaker 1: to Venezuela and do with the President hopes.

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Speaker 2: A lot of questions.

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Speaker 1: He has the answers for you coming up after news

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Speaker 1: update next Scott'sland showing the home of the best Bengals coverage.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Mike Brown, if you have not heard,

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Speaker 1: releasing a statement just a little while ago saying that

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Speaker 1: the focus of the team is building a consistent competitive

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Speaker 1: ball club and after thoughtful consideration, he writes, I'm confident

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Speaker 1: that Duke Tobin and Zach Taylor are the right leaders

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Speaker 1: to goud US forward. They've proven they can build and

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Speaker 1: league teams and compete for championships. We take a hard

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Speaker 1: look at everything we do as your approach US off

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Speaker 1: season with determination to build a championship caliber roster that

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Speaker 1: wins consistently. From the words of Mike Brown, Bengals President,

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Speaker 1: Duke Tobin and Zach Taylor. On going anywhere. With the

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Speaker 1: news that Kevin Stefanski has been fired by Cleveland, take

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Speaker 1: that what you will. Scott's Loan seven hundred WWT Since.

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Speaker 2: Nat do you want to be an American?

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Speaker 1: Scott's Loan Shows seven hundred wlwshow. With the US forced

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Speaker 1: regime change and the arrest of Maduro, President Trump said

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Speaker 1: the US is going to run Venezuela and oil companies

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Speaker 1: are going to enter the country to the start rebuilding

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Speaker 1: their oil drilling infrastructure and begin selling oil at even

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Speaker 1: cheaper prices. Only problem is oil is still relatively cheap.

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Speaker 1: What does this all this mean? Scott Igiel is down

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Speaker 1: on the Bayou this morning in Louisiana. He's with USA

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Speaker 1: Energy Worker's former Lieutenant Governor of the Great State of Louisiana.

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Speaker 2: Scott, welcome back. How you been happy new year?

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Speaker 5: I am great. It is good to hear you, boy

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Speaker 5: Scott's Spector.

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Speaker 8: Shout out to Cincinnati, appreciate all the good work you're

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Speaker 8: doing and happy to join the show this morning.

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01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 2: What happened to your guy Joe Burrow this year? By

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01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 2: the way, Well, you know.

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Speaker 8: If you could get me an offensive line over there

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01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 8: in Cincinnati, we could get you a two rings.

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Speaker 2: We can't do everything for you.

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Speaker 5: Can you give me an offensive line?

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Speaker 4: Brother? I just need some.

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01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 2: Well, you got yone.

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Speaker 1: You know, you got Chase and you got Burrow. Generally

1492
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 1: you go to the playoffs it's just those two. But

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01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 1: you've got a thousand yard rusher. We've got a guy

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01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: named t Higgins who's pretty damn good as well. And

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Speaker 1: explain to me how the hell you can't make the

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Speaker 1: playoffs with that lineup?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I'll tell you, boy.

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Speaker 8: We uh you know we we uh we I'll think

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Speaker 8: over here, but I'll tell you what when the when

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Speaker 8: the Bengals on.

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Speaker 5: Uh, It's it's hard to pull against Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 8: What a tremendous individual that brought a lot of credibility

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01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 8: and fame to l issue with that undefeated national championship run.

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Speaker 8: We'll wish you all the best there in Cincinnati. We

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Speaker 8: know we got some great days coming. Jose Oh Warrior,

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Speaker 8: he just stood and don't give up. A great days

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Speaker 8: ahead for Cincinnati Bengals, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: All right, Scott, let's get down to it. We take

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Speaker 1: Maduro out. He's actually in uh. I guess it could

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01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 1: be a rain. He's being ranked today as a matter

1511
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 1: of fact as we speak. But now this opens things

1512
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 1: up in Venezuela as far as oil companies go. The

1513
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 1: only problem with this logic, I think from your perspective

1514
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 1: here keeping the pollics out, but keeping the it's about money,

1515
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 1: it's about oil, and let's just say that it was

1516
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: a pretext the drugs, a pretext to get the oil.

1517
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 1: But with oil prices as low as they are right now,

1518
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 1: is there incentive for us, you know, drillers and these

1519
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: big companies to go into Venezuela considering the political climate there,

1520
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 1: because you're talking about you know, billions and billions of dollars.

1521
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 1: Is that why it's hard to find someone to go

1522
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 1: in there right now, because they don't know what the

1523
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 1: future is going to bring us in it just safe

1524
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 1: for to invest in the permium basin here in the

1525
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 1: United States.

1526
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's right.

1527
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:34,759
Speaker 8: I think at the end of the day, right business

1528
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 8: or capital is deployed where capital is pret well, where

1529
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 8: there's stability and there's an opportunity for a return. And

1530
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 8: when you look at a third world country like Venezuela,

1531
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 8: you often want to whether or not that American dollar

1532
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 8: can can flow there and get a return. So look,

1533
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 8: I think there's a lot of headlines out there about oil,

1534
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 8: about drugs and about running.

1535
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 5: Venezuela and all that.

1536
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 8: We'll see a haul that wolves out and that will,

1537
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 8: you know, unfold here in several than several months. Let

1538
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 8: me just say this, much that you know, Venezuelan and

1539
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 8: oil is not showing up in the market in America tomorrow,

1540
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 8: even by the summertime. What I can tell you is

1541
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 8: that what we have witness in this country in twenty

1542
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:16,679
Speaker 8: twenty five is what we call the Great Energy Pivot

1543
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 8: of twenty twenty five. We have seen a country go

1544
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 8: from energy defense to energy offense. We've seen this country

1545
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 8: begin to embrace all forms of energy and bring back

1546
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 8: some common sense to energy policy. And that's credible because

1547
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 8: not only is it good for USA energy workers, it's

1548
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 8: absolutely great for the American consumer. Right the current average

1549
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 8: of gasline right now about twenty and eighty one cents.

1550
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 5: A year ago was three h six.

1551
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 8: It's much lower than the record break and higher that

1552
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 8: we saw at and twenty and twenty two. So look,

1553
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 8: what I would say is that Venezuela is a big asterisk,

1554
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 8: and we'll see how they're unfolds. Our focus continues to

1555
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 8: be on the deployment of capital, as you say, in

1556
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 8: the Permian Basin, in Alaska, in California, in Oklahoma, in Ohio,

1557
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 8: in Louisiana, where we know that we've experienced six recessions

1558
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,799
Speaker 8: from nineteen seventy three to twenty nineteen in this country,

1559
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 8: and all of them have been preceded by spiking energey prices.

1560
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:20,879
Speaker 5: So if you want to get.

1561
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 8: An economy rolling, job one is to make sure you

1562
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 8: have access to affordable energy. Nobody does it better than

1563
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 8: the Red, White, and Blue. And look, Ohio was a

1564
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 8: perfect example. I mean, you top ten in gas, you

1565
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 8: top ten in ukula, you top ten in electricity, or

1566
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 8: how do you get it? And not only do you

1567
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 8: consume a lot, but you actually export some of that.

1568
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 5: To other states.

1569
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 8: So we're proud of what Ohio does for the nation

1570
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:48,680
Speaker 8: when it comes to energy. Our football seasons, both for

1571
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 8: you and me, this year didn't go like we wanted,

1572
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 8: but we're still proud of our energy forces, Right.

1573
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,679
Speaker 1: Scott, I deal with the USA energy workers and what's

1574
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 1: happening in Venezuela and how that relates to the US

1575
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 1: markets here at least US operations when it comes to drilling.

1576
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,439
Speaker 1: I think that is it, Chevron. I believe you tell

1577
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 1: me that they they've been in there for like one

1578
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 1: hundred years in Venezuela. But get in the money from

1579
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,839
Speaker 1: these other companies, from the Exons, from the Chinical phillips

1580
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 1: Is of the world, the Haliburtons of the world. It

1581
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 1: seems to me you just keep that money in the

1582
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 1: United States in those companies. Notorious. You know there's a

1583
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 1: break even point right now you can talk more about

1584
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 1: this is that you know, we want cheap gas, but

1585
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 1: not too cheap because it's awfully expensive to get that

1586
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 1: out of the ground. So there's got to be a

1587
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 1: profit margin and a profit margin for you guys. And

1588
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 1: so if we saturate the world with Venezuela. With cheaper oil,

1589
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 1: there's no incentive to drill and invest that money.

1590
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 8: Right, Well, look, I think you make some good points,

1591
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 8: and clearly, you know we would say is that none

1592
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 8: of us, none of us want cheap energy.

1593
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 5: We all want affordable energy.

1594
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 8: Access to affordable energy is the key, and there is

1595
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 8: a balance there, right, and the market will always find

1596
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 8: that balance.

1597
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,679
Speaker 5: At the USA Energy Workers we always speak.

1598
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 8: To the balance of the three e's. We believe there

1599
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 8: are three important e's, much like a three legged bar

1600
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 8: stool that we have to focus on when it comes

1601
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 8: to domestic energy policy. Obviously, energy resources is one of

1602
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 8: those e's. Environment nobody does it better than the red, white,

1603
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 8: and blue, so obviously we're going to do it better

1604
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 8: for the environment here, then we're going to do it

1605
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 8: in other places. And then of course the economy. You know,

1606
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 8: the environmental E is blue, the energy the energy is red.

1607
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 8: The economic E is purple. It's not red or blue,

1608
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 8: it's purple and cloves across all states. And we believe

1609
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 8: when American policy balances those three e's, we end up

1610
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 8: with some really strong results. Again, we experienced that in

1611
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 8: twenty twenty five with the pivot from all of government

1612
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 8: war on domestic energy, to all of government's support or

1613
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 8: domestic energy. And one of the things that happened, you know,

1614
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 8: late last year that I think they list and would

1615
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 8: be interested in, is that we had a lease sale

1616
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 8: in the Gulf of America. It was the first le

1617
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 8: sale we had this twenty twenty three. It was mandated

1618
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 8: by the One Big Beautiful Bill. It's referred to as

1619
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 8: Big Beautiful Gulf one lease sale. It had a lot

1620
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 8: of interest. It generated propertly two hundred and eighty million

1621
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 8: dollars in hot bid across one hundred and eighty one blocks.

1622
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 8: The Gulf of America has traditionally represented about one in

1623
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 8: every six barrels of oil produced in America for over

1624
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 8: half a century, you know, Scott, both presidents of both

1625
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 8: parties have embraced the Gulf of America as a significant

1626
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 8: part of the American energy portfolio. We want to do more,

1627
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 8: We can do more. We think this administration is headed

1628
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 8: in the right direction, kind of taking off some of

1629
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 8: the change that have held us back yere. And so

1630
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 8: we're looking forward to this twenty twenty six in a

1631
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 8: big way.

1632
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was part of the two in December

1633
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 1: last year you had the Golf of America off shore

1634
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:00,640
Speaker 1: lease sale and the first so I think we had

1635
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 1: in a couple of years mandated by the One Big

1636
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,640
Speaker 1: Beautiful Bill. As you said too in the Golf, how

1637
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: many more of those leases are going to become available?

1638
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 8: Well, you know what, what basically the One Big Beautiful

1639
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:17,839
Speaker 8: Bill did is mandated thirty different leaf tales into the future.

1640
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 8: So again, leasdale is an event, uh, that that is scheduled,

1641
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 8: that is public public is it has to go through

1642
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 8: a variety of environmental reviews to be able to get there.

1643
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 5: Uh.

1644
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 8: But in the past we kind of left some of

1645
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 8: that up to the administration. And I think we found

1646
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 8: out that in the previous administration was playing games, if

1647
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 8: you would, with with lease sales. And so the Big

1648
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 8: Beautiful Bill just kind of came in and mandated native

1649
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 8: the law that you got to have.

1650
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 5: These lead sales.

1651
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 8: So they will be a significant amount of lease sales

1652
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 8: that happened not only in the go but it will

1653
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 8: happen in the Pacific and as well as the Artic

1654
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 8: and and that's good, that's good news for American consumer. Again,

1655
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 8: one of the things that we you know, we we

1656
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 8: like to repeat when we talk to our national audience,

1657
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:09,600
Speaker 8: is that there are no wealthy, low energy.

1658
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 5: Consuming nations on the planet.

1659
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:15,639
Speaker 8: Let me repeat that there are no wealthy, low energy

1660
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 8: consuming nations on the planet. Got it in a lot

1661
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 8: of ways, In a lot of ways, Scott's energy consumption

1662
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 8: has become a proxy for human prosperity, and so having

1663
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 8: access to affordable energy just means that's obviously they had

1664
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 8: much more prosperity available and uh and again here on

1665
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 8: the Golf Coast. But we believe that every state has

1666
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 8: a role to make this union as great as it

1667
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 8: can be, and the Golf Coast we certainly recognize that

1668
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 8: one of our roles, in addition to having a good

1669
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 8: time here, is to make sure that this country has

1670
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 8: the energy in need. And you know, whether it's Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama,

1671
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 8: we highly focus and we kick and.

1672
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 1: Ask he's Scott a gild USA energy workers on the

1673
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 1: show this morning, And obviously to take over Venezuela and

1674
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 1: the oil operations there, and that's a long time coming.

1675
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,599
Speaker 1: By the way, I don't think you can find anyone

1676
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 1: who's well. You can always find people are angry that

1677
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: we topp up a durero. But the pretext it was

1678
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 1: about drugs, and it's actually about oil. And in this case, though,

1679
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 1: it's kind of like you made a case for not

1680
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 1: invading Venezuela and taking over oil because you said, what,

1681
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 1: we're getting thirty leases that are going to be available

1682
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 1: to oil producers. That's less incentive than for them to

1683
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:28,560
Speaker 1: invest in Venezuela.

1684
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 8: Well, look, I believe, probably contrary to some of the

1685
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 8: pubalic comments, I really believe this was about drugs.

1686
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 5: I do really believe that that is.

1687
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:44,640
Speaker 8: Being played out in the media in different ways. But

1688
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 8: I do believe that this was about the importation of

1689
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:52,640
Speaker 8: drugs into society of America that is absolutely ruining a

1690
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 8: generation and making it very difficult for families. And So

1691
01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 8: while there's again a lot of comments and it's about oil,

1692
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 8: it's about just about this. I personally believes that there

1693
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 8: is no substitute for the USA energy worker. There's no

1694
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 8: substitute for real strong energy production from this country. We've

1695
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 8: seen it this look, this country is not going to

1696
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:22,919
Speaker 8: forget the lessons of early seventies where we got ourselves

1697
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 8: in position to rely on foreign producers, and we saw

1698
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 8: what happened in my nineteen seventy three with the Arab

1699
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 8: oil ago and and we learned that lesson, and we

1700
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 8: quickly went from being a slack producer to the number

1701
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 8: one producer in the in the world. Today America is

1702
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 8: the number one oil producer in the world. Okay, and

1703
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 8: this I believe our country has learned that lesson, and

1704
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 8: we are not going back to those days certainly. Look,

1705
01:22:56,560 --> 01:23:00,639
Speaker 8: I think you know, getting rid of anyone who imports

1706
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:04,680
Speaker 8: drugs into this country for for kids, uh, and for

1707
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 8: their own self wealth is a detriment to society.

1708
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 5: So for that, uh, I'm pleased to see that.

1709
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, I agree it destroys society,

1710
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 1: but I mean the bulk of the drugs aren't coming

1711
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 1: from Venezuela.

1712
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:20,640
Speaker 4: But you know, it.

1713
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 5: Does, it does.

1714
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 1: I would say also on this one, Scott angel is

1715
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 1: that maybe this, you know, if it works out, and

1716
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 1: as we know, it often doesn't, but sometimes it does.

1717
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 1: And that is regime change at the hands of the

1718
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 1: United States is uh. In three years, if we have

1719
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:39,560
Speaker 1: a foothold there, it's gonna be awfully tough for the

1720
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 1: next administration to unravel that. If it's a democratic one,

1721
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 1: it's a Republican fine, but if the Democratic when unravel

1722
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 1: that probably not that kind of hedges our bats a

1723
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 1: little bit in having a stronghold here in the West

1724
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 1: in Venezuela when it comes to uh a source of energy,

1725
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 1: a sense of oil which you're going to need for

1726
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 1: the next hundred plus years.

1727
01:23:58,320 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1728
01:23:58,520 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 8: Look, at the end of the day, right when we

1729
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 8: all recognize that access to affordable energy is good for

1730
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 8: the American consumer, we all win. We experienced it in

1731
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 8: twenty five. We absolutely believe that, you know, this White

1732
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 8: House is headed in the right direction. And when it

1733
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 8: comes to focusing on American energy policy that I think

1734
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:19,680
Speaker 8: if you write the story of twenty twenty five, one

1735
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 8: of the things that really comes out to meet Scott

1736
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 8: is that getting energy policy fixed was job worn because

1737
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 8: once we fix the energy policy, because the experts tell

1738
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 8: us about forty percent of overall inflation is driven by

1739
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 8: energy inflation. So we saw what happened when energy is

1740
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 8: in twenty twenty five, we also saw that inflation was reduced,

1741
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 8: not to where we want it to be, but it

1742
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 8: certainly is reduced, and we saw interest rates come down.

1743
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:45,560
Speaker 8: So job one focus on American energy, we believe, was

1744
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 8: the right call, we've seen it, execute it, and we

1745
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 8: believe we're not going to forget those lessons in twenty

1746
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:50,679
Speaker 8: twenty sixty.

1747
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the oil ement.

1748
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 1: I believes that those other legs of that still right,

1749
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:56,680
Speaker 1: which be natural gas, It would be other things like

1750
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 1: that too, But it seems to me is transmission as

1751
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 1: the other issue hit and getting it from point A

1752
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,679
Speaker 1: to point B producing it. But we know the strain

1753
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 1: on our energy grid. For example, we know that the

1754
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 1: Keystone XL pipeline was shut down and now restarted under Trump.

1755
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 1: That will definitely help to reduce if it's not already

1756
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:16,719
Speaker 1: reducing oil prices, gas prices at that But infrastructure seems

1757
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 1: to be the bottleneck, no doubt.

1758
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 8: I'm glad you brought that up, because we've had this incredible,

1759
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 8: I think bottleneck permitting infrastructure that we need in this country.

1760
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 8: And again, I think there was this mindset that, you know,

1761
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:34,560
Speaker 8: energy wasn't necessary, that we were going to maybe we

1762
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 8: had begun to accept that we're going to get all

1763
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 8: of our energy.

1764
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 5: From the birds and the bees and the flowers and

1765
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 5: the trees.

1766
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 8: And I think there's starting to be some realization that

1767
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 8: you know, hey, we don't make these investments. We started

1768
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:47,600
Speaker 8: up having serious issues and so the grid does have

1769
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 8: a bottlenecks. I do believe that there's a couple of

1770
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 8: things that happened that's very important to getting the big

1771
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 8: beautiful Bill provided some relief on infrastructure.

1772
01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:58,679
Speaker 5: Also, the Supreme Court.

1773
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 8: Decision, I think it's called seven Counties Eagle County versus

1774
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:08,760
Speaker 8: Seven Counties Infrastructure. That was a significant decision coming at

1775
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 8: a Supreme Court. The executive order that created or get

1776
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 8: created the National declared the National Energy Emergency, the creation

1777
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 8: of the National Indidominance Council. I think you can expect

1778
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:26,440
Speaker 8: twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven to be absolute

1779
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 8: record years, record years on the capital that's deployed in

1780
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 8: infrastructure development, because I believe that the capital deployers have

1781
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 8: the confidence that this country is fixing its bottlenecks. One

1782
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 8: of the other things is going through Congress right now,

1783
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 8: something called the Speed Act, which is designed again to

1784
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 8: remove some of the bureaucratic bureaucratic holes. And you know,

1785
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 8: folks have a hard time when they put together a

1786
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 8: business plan and it's a big and dollar business plan,

1787
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 8: and it takes on certain mouthstone and those milestones get

1788
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 8: get delayed and delayed and delayed and delayed, and nineteen

1789
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:06,640
Speaker 8: years later you're still waiting for a permit. That's no

1790
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 8: way to run a business. There's no one way to

1791
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 8: provide affordable energy to American consumers. So you absolutely right.

1792
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 8: I'm glad you brought it up. A lot of bottle

1793
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 8: necks on the grid. Looked for twenty twenty sixth and

1794
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:22,839
Speaker 8: twenty twenty seven to be extremely strong with the deployment

1795
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 8: of capital to start removing some of those bottle necks.

1796
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 1: Well see how it shakes out on the home front.

1797
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 1: Things are good. We'll find out. Venezuela now an outlier.

1798
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 1: But Scott Einshiel is with USA Energy workers down on

1799
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,679
Speaker 1: the Bayou. And thanks again for the time. It's always Scott,

1800
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 1: all the best.

1801
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 5: Thank you so much, and good luck for you in

1802
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:40,679
Speaker 5: twenty twenty six.

1803
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 1: You too, You as well, my friend. I'm sure we'll

1804
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 1: talk again soon. You know, as he was talking, there

1805
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 1: was so thinking about the demand, and it was the

1806
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 1: stupidest thing that the Hubris, the previous administration, had about

1807
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 1: forcing electric vehicles on people. Hybrids are where it's at,

1808
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 1: and we said no, no, we don't want that because

1809
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 1: that's gas. We can't have gasoline. Got to go right

1810
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 1: to electric, and we saw what happened. It kind of

1811
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 1: collapsed upon itself. Not that there's you know, electric cars

1812
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 1: are going to go, evs are going to go anywhere,

1813
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 1: but certainly trying to force people and pushing that agenda

1814
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 1: didn't work out most people. Most people who drive, you know,

1815
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 1: drive a significant amount of miles in the United States

1816
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:17,640
Speaker 1: outside of the big cities, and you know, the ryal

1817
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 1: leveluild of having to charge something every so often, it's

1818
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:22,640
Speaker 1: still a lot of pilling despite the incredible range that

1819
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 1: these cars have. At the same time, you know, people

1820
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 1: want SUVs and bigger vehicles now, I think largely because

1821
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 1: the roads suck. I think if you want people to

1822
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 1: become more you know from the environmentalists, to go to

1823
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 1: all electric, which poses its own problems.

1824
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:38,720
Speaker 2: But we need more.

1825
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 1: We need wider, bigger and better roads. Uh so you know,

1826
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 1: every every pothole doesn't feel like your teeth are going

1827
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 1: to get knocked out. Just my two cents anyway, quick

1828
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 1: time out more to follow slowly on seven hundred w

1829
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 1: O got to flow show seven hundred WIWD slide in

1830
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 1: the first one Shower of twenty six or a lot

1831
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 1: of people, and I want to talk about generally, it's

1832
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,640
Speaker 1: so sports related about this time. And Cleveland knocks off

1833
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 1: the Bengals yesterday twenty eighteen. Bengals fall to six and eleven,

1834
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 1: and I, for one, am happy the Bengals lost yesterday.

1835
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 1: James Rapeat is here from SI's Bengals Talk dot Com

1836
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 1: in the Lockdown Bengals podcast.

1837
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:15,679
Speaker 2: James welcome.

1838
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 1: I said, yes, I'm glad the Bengals lost because I

1839
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 1: hate the tired narrative where our teams go on a

1840
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 1: streak once the season is out of reach, once the

1841
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 1: postseason's out of reach, and they talk about, well we

1842
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 1: got something to build on for next year. That is

1843
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 1: the stupidest, most excuse ridden concept ever. I'm glad they lost,

1844
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 1: so you go, listen, blow this thing up and fix.

1845
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 5: It, right, you did it?

1846
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:38,640
Speaker 6: I do.

1847
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 5: I totally understand that. I think I hope they knew

1848
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 5: regardless that they weren't close. But now you look at

1849
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:52,719
Speaker 5: it and you lose to Vat Brown's team with Jill Burrow,

1850
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 5: which just shouldn't happen. I mean, it really is an

1851
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:59,679
Speaker 5: embarrassing loss, and you have to look in the mirror

1852
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 5: and say we were five hundred with Joe Burrow. You know,

1853
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 5: we were three and three with Joe Burrow, right and

1854
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 5: after he came back to be clear. Yeah, so a

1855
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 5: tough cover swallow for sure, no no.

1856
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 2: Doubt about it.

1857
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 1: I look at a you know you because if they'd

1858
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:17,559
Speaker 1: won that game yesterday and they're very close to doing it, obviously,

1859
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 1: that's a that field goal. You go back and go, well, okay,

1860
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 1: we won three and they lost to a Jets team

1861
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 1: this season that by the way, yesterday I watched that

1862
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 1: Bills game. The Bills started well, Josh Allen I think

1863
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 1: once here one handoff, and then he was out of

1864
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:33,599
Speaker 1: the game to keep his one hundred and twenty games

1865
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 1: streak alive. But Mitch Trubisky backup comes in, all the

1866
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:39,799
Speaker 1: backups are and the Bills throttled the Jets.

1867
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 2: The Jets the.

1868
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 1: Only team in NFL history not to get one single

1869
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:46,560
Speaker 1: interception all damn season long, and the Bengals loss of

1870
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:48,760
Speaker 1: that team. That's what I look at and scratch my

1871
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 1: head and go, how is that even possible? What the

1872
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 1: talent this team has. You've got Joe Burrow, you've got

1873
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, you got t Higgins and a thousand yard

1874
01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:59,879
Speaker 1: rusher in Chase Brown, and you still can't make the playoffs.

1875
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, and not even close. I mean they've been eliminated

1876
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 5: for so long. It's not like they were in it

1877
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 5: down the stretch and something didn't break their way like

1878
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 5: last year. Yeah, that's it. That's the frustrating thing.

1879
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 4: And so.

1880
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 5: Now it's about how do you get better? What do

1881
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 5: you need to get better? What needs to improve? What

1882
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:25,360
Speaker 5: are the changes that need to be made? And what's

1883
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:28,439
Speaker 5: interesting is is you could say, yeah, because a bunch

1884
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:30,639
Speaker 5: of changes need to be made, and you could say

1885
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:33,680
Speaker 5: the coaches and guess what, I think you're right. You

1886
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:36,879
Speaker 5: could say they need to be more aggressive in free agency,

1887
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 5: and guess what, I think you're right. Obviously they need

1888
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:42,559
Speaker 5: to draft better with talent that's ready to go right

1889
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 5: now instead of needing to be developed for two to

1890
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 5: three years. If that's how they're trying to bank on

1891
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 5: the draft, which is a dangerous game to play. So

1892
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 5: there's a lot of ways they can get better.

1893
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 2: Well, everything's on the table, but it's really not because

1894
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 2: it's the Bengals. Of course.

1895
01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 1: Just dropping a couple hours ago was Mike Brown's statement

1896
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:04,640
Speaker 1: that after thoughtful consideration, I'm confident that Duke Tobin and

1897
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:07,679
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor are the right leaders to guide us forward.

1898
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:09,600
Speaker 1: Why well because of one of the playoffs in the

1899
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, so it can't possibly do them. But we're

1900
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 1: going to look at everything that doesn't make a lot

1901
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:16,639
Speaker 1: of sense and confidence there and maybe the one area

1902
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 1: that he didn't mention that should is free agency.

1903
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:23,000
Speaker 5: They better be aggressive in free agency. And I actually

1904
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 5: just wrote something this morning what Joe Burrow said about

1905
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 5: free agency because I asked him because it's one thing

1906
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:33,040
Speaker 5: for me to stay on all my platforms, which I

1907
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 5: have for quite some time now that hey, they set

1908
01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 5: themselves up for failure this season because of their lack

1909
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:42,720
Speaker 5: of activity and free agency. They went and they got

1910
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:45,799
Speaker 5: t J. Slayton, and that was really the only defensive

1911
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:49,920
Speaker 5: starter that they brought in. And we saw the defense

1912
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:52,679
Speaker 5: last year, we knew it wouldn't just be a coach

1913
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 5: that would fix it. And so for that to be

1914
01:32:55,439 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 5: the case is unacceptable. And Joe Burrow saying, quote when

1915
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 5: I asked about free agency, that's a paramount importance. You

1916
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 5: have to identify where you're weak and figure out a

1917
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 5: way to be strung in that area. It's pretty simple,

1918
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:11,560
Speaker 5: and so they need to do it. They need to

1919
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 5: add multiple starters, probably one to all three levels of

1920
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 5: their defense, if we're being quite honest, and that doesn't

1921
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:20,640
Speaker 5: mean that they're not going to or shouldn't add to

1922
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 5: the offense. A lot of people are going to say,

1923
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 5: all of the offensive set we saw yesterday, the offense

1924
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 5: is not set. The offense is far from set. They're good,

1925
01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 5: they're talented, they have a chance to be really good.

1926
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 5: But they should have hung thirty on a crappy, lifeless

1927
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 5: Browns team, even with the turnovers, and they didn't get close.

1928
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:40,600
Speaker 2: James repeating so on that.

1929
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:44,599
Speaker 1: You have to ask yourself, Okay, during that that anomaly

1930
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 1: where they went out and leaned in the free agency,

1931
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:48,720
Speaker 1: in the last three seasons they got away from that.

1932
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 1: So the question would be why if it worked, then

1933
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 1: we know the reasons what predicated that. So aren't we

1934
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 1: in the same position now, why wouldn't you replicate if

1935
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 1: that worked for you once, why wouldn't.

1936
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Speaker 5: You continue to do that? I don't have the complete answer.

1937
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Speaker 5: Here's what I would tell you. I think that they overthought,

1938
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 5: completely overthought this idea that oh my god, we got

1939
01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 5: to pay Joe and Jamar and how are we going

1940
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 5: to make this work? And they looked up and they

1941
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:15,559
Speaker 5: had no one to pay. That's why if they didn't

1942
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 5: pay te Higgins I would have lost my mind. They

1943
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 5: had no one to pay that. They have so much money,

1944
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:24,879
Speaker 5: so much cash shaded, so much room, and they drafted

1945
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 5: so poorly that they easily could have paid Jest. They

1946
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 5: easily could have paid DJ. It was a predative by

1947
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:32,680
Speaker 5: the way. They easily could have paid all of these

1948
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:35,560
Speaker 5: guys and kept their stars. But in their minds, I

1949
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:37,640
Speaker 5: think they thought, oh, well, we got the quarterback coming up,

1950
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:41,599
Speaker 5: but we got the receiver coming up, and they felt

1951
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 5: like they couldn't operate. And that's why, Like I think back,

1952
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 5: really the past three off season. Last year was TJ.

1953
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:51,639
Speaker 5: Slayton was their big get, which can't be your big

1954
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:54,160
Speaker 5: get if you're a Super Bowl contender in free agency.

1955
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Speaker 4: Just can't.

1956
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 5: It's not that's not even have bininary thy for a

1957
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 5: lot of teams, And that's no knock on TJ. It's

1958
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:01,519
Speaker 5: so the reality of it. You need to add real

1959
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 5: starters that and he's worth it, but you need to

1960
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 5: add more than one piece to that defense. But I

1961
01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 5: think back to over the past three years, really the

1962
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 5: only significant free agent signing was Orlando Brown Junior. And

1963
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 5: I'll tell you right now, Scott, they didn't go into

1964
01:35:18,160 --> 01:35:20,679
Speaker 5: free agency thinking they had a shot at Orlando Brown Junior.

1965
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 5: That wasn't even a guy they were targeting. He fell

1966
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 5: into their laps because he looked at the situation and said, ooh,

1967
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:28,679
Speaker 5: that would be a good situation. And that's what scares

1968
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 5: me is like, you guys got to think like this

1969
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:35,720
Speaker 5: is the Joe Burrow era. And so however you get

1970
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:37,760
Speaker 5: to Little Lombardy, you got to get there. It doesn't

1971
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 5: matter if you're hurt feelings, it doesn't matter what wall

1972
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 5: you got to run through. You got to find a

1973
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:44,880
Speaker 5: way to get there. And it doesn't feel like they're

1974
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:48,040
Speaker 5: willing to climb, crawl, run through, do whatever it takes

1975
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 5: to get there, because if they were, they would be

1976
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 5: willing to manipulate how they structure contracts to get more

1977
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:57,559
Speaker 5: guys on under the cap and all of the things

1978
01:35:57,600 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 5: that I've highlighted with you all, Oh yeah, well I

1979
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 5: think that that thing.

1980
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, And James, to your point, I mean, Chase Brown

1981
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:06,560
Speaker 1: right thousand and out Rusher, you know, his contracts, and

1982
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:08,680
Speaker 1: I think, what end twenty nine the next season, you

1983
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 1: should have him locked in right now or at least

1984
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:12,760
Speaker 1: this offseason. That's a priority, right for getting him. You

1985
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:14,880
Speaker 1: can lock him in cheaper than it's going to cost

1986
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:17,479
Speaker 1: you down the line, and we've seen them not do

1987
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:18,759
Speaker 1: that with plenty of players.

1988
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so Chase Brown's interesting. But what's tough about that?

1989
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:26,160
Speaker 5: They're spending a lot of money on offense, right and

1990
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:29,200
Speaker 5: so do they overthink that? I don't. I don't know.

1991
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 4: Here's what I do know.

1992
01:36:30,240 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 5: DJ Turner is in the same boat. I want DJ

1993
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 5: Turner on the team next year, on the team the

1994
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:38,800
Speaker 5: year after. Yes, that's still entering his fifth year option.

1995
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 5: So there are guys like that. But here's the other thing.

1996
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 5: Don't worry about those extensions and those guys that are

1997
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 5: under contract in the middle of free agency. The real

1998
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 5: loss of the Jamar and t contracts was it wasn't

1999
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,560
Speaker 5: just how they structured them. And I'm not going to

2000
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:58,639
Speaker 5: get two into the leads there because they wasted about

2001
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:00,600
Speaker 5: ten million dollars in cap space. It didn't have to,

2002
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:04,600
Speaker 5: but it was the when, why the hell would you

2003
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 5: do that? With free agency opens, they're under contract, they're yours.

2004
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 5: You can negotiate with them anytime you want. Once free

2005
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:14,640
Speaker 5: agency opens, that is your time to go after outsidecast.

2006
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 5: They didn't do that. They were so worried I think

2007
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:21,720
Speaker 5: internally about getting those done and how it would look

2008
01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:24,360
Speaker 5: and impact their salary catch space that they could not

2009
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:28,639
Speaker 5: operate without getting those done. That just cannot happen.

2010
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 1: Well, also hamstring themselves because it's I only have this

2011
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:34,080
Speaker 1: heart official. We don't negotiate during these during the season,

2012
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:36,880
Speaker 1: these particular times, and like you're always negotiating.

2013
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:38,560
Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense. That's what the rest of

2014
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:39,040
Speaker 2: the league is.

2015
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:40,680
Speaker 4: It's always negotia.

2016
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:42,640
Speaker 1: Some stupid like, well this is the way we did

2017
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 1: it when my dad ran the team. Well we also

2018
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 1: have color TV, So what what the hell are you

2019
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:51,519
Speaker 1: talking about. You don't know if they do, I don't know,

2020
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:54,639
Speaker 1: probably not working off a rabbit or I'm not sure,

2021
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 1: get in trouble.

2022
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:02,879
Speaker 2: They uh, I'm watching this football game. They're at midfield.

2023
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 1: They have a chance to really to put this thing

2024
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 1: away fourth and one, they wind up punting the ball

2025
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:10,760
Speaker 1: comes back to bite them. And then later on when

2026
01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett gets his record setting sack of Joe Burrow,

2027
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 1: which was I thought. I thought for a while he

2028
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:19,280
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna get it, but he got it. You know,

2029
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 1: the stadium is reluctantly. Even Bengals fans were on their

2030
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:23,679
Speaker 1: feet for this because it's a milestone, right, I haven't

2031
01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 1: seen this in twenty years. He's eclipsed and become the

2032
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 1: old time NFL set the record for the most sacks

2033
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:32,560
Speaker 1: and one season twenty three. I've seen a lot of

2034
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:34,920
Speaker 1: sports and you have too, and I can't remember a

2035
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 1: milestone like that where the game didn't stop and they

2036
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:39,840
Speaker 1: didn't celebrate. And yet in his press conference, Zach was

2037
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 1: all pissed off that they stopped the game to Kurt Miles,

2038
01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:45,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to kurt him off the field and celebrate him.

2039
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:48,560
Speaker 1: And it took the momentumway from the Bengals. Like the

2040
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:52,840
Speaker 1: urgency of that moment in the running tempo. Somehow that mattered,

2041
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:54,160
Speaker 1: but the fourth and one punt did not.

2042
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 2: It makes no sense.

2043
01:38:56,760 --> 01:39:01,719
Speaker 5: I totally agree with Like, I get what he was saying.

2044
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:02,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, I do.

2045
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:06,840
Speaker 5: Come on, let's not make it a huge deal because

2046
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:10,600
Speaker 5: you just got your buff loos right like right, Like

2047
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:13,720
Speaker 5: it is annoying and it is frustrating, and you were

2048
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 5: trying to play to win the game, which makes it

2049
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:20,320
Speaker 5: even more sad that the backup Browns team that very

2050
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:22,880
Speaker 5: well is going to fire their coach. And it feels

2051
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 5: that way I talked to people up there. It's just

2052
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 5: it cannot it cannot be a thing like that has

2053
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:34,720
Speaker 5: like millions of us that Taylor complaining now and so

2054
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:37,760
Speaker 5: now when And he might not care because he also

2055
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 5: praised Miles Garrett. But that's not the point that everyone's

2056
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 5: going to remember. It's gonna be I remember when that

2057
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 5: Bengals coach complained that they so.

2058
01:39:45,320 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 6: Like, that's just it's just not a good look.

2059
01:39:48,280 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 4: So he could have made his.

2060
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 5: Point without being so we were trying to get on

2061
01:39:53,000 --> 01:39:54,639
Speaker 5: the ball and we were finding to them we're fighting

2062
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:56,759
Speaker 5: for our lives here and then like, all right, well.

2063
01:39:57,120 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 4: Why fight for your lives?

2064
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:01,360
Speaker 5: And with zero zero gets the yeah, yeah, there's no

2065
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 5: it's odd.

2066
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:05,479
Speaker 1: This morning the Brown said we're done with Mike Stefanski,

2067
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:08,639
Speaker 1: two time Coach the Year. Immediately Bengals fans start thinking, well,

2068
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:11,640
Speaker 1: is he an upgrade from the coach we have now

2069
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:14,599
Speaker 1: in Zach Taylor. Mike Brown kind of cut this thing

2070
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 1: off of the Knees issued a statement not long ago saying,

2071
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 1: after thoughtful consideration, he's confident that not only Duke Tobyn

2072
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:22,880
Speaker 1: but Zach Taylor are the right leaders to guid his forward.

2073
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 1: Should the Bengals have gone after Kevin Stefanski, I don't know,

2074
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, So.

2075
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:34,240
Speaker 5: It matters for sure. It matters because I've thought about

2076
01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:36,479
Speaker 5: this a lot, like if the front office isn't changing,

2077
01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:39,200
Speaker 5: you see what an elite quarterback can do for you.

2078
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 5: If you have an elite quarterback that can do that,

2079
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:43,519
Speaker 5: and you get an elite head coach, which they do

2080
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 5: not have an elite head coach, it goes without saying

2081
01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:51,320
Speaker 5: then like pretty good spot to be in. And uh So,

2082
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:55,840
Speaker 5: I I don't know if I think Kevin the Fancy

2083
01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:57,640
Speaker 5: is the laite head coach. I think it's muddy. I

2084
01:40:57,720 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 5: will say this. I think in NFL circles held in

2085
01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 5: higher regard than jacket correct, But do I think that

2086
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:09,679
Speaker 5: he's this awesome coach like I don't know, I don't

2087
01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:11,840
Speaker 5: I don't know if I think that maybe he is

2088
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 5: and I'm missing it and I'm not seeing the full boat.

2089
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 5: And in the NFL evaluators that are uh seated differently

2090
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 5: in our right. But for me personally, I never looked

2091
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:22,960
Speaker 5: at Kevin Stefanski and I was up there when like

2092
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:25,679
Speaker 5: right when he got hired. I wasn't there for that season,

2093
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:29,160
Speaker 5: but right when he got hired. But I'm not sure

2094
01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:32,840
Speaker 5: I'm convinced and completely sold on that I made my words.

2095
01:41:32,880 --> 01:41:35,320
Speaker 5: In two years, if he goes to Tennessee and has

2096
01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:37,280
Speaker 5: them competing for titles, yeah.

2097
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, letting Brabel go. You know, I think it's bad

2098
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:44,080
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati that Tennessee. That just leaves everyone shaking there. Nonetheless,

2099
01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 1: James Brabel is elite. Tennessee is like, yeah, we don't

2100
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 1: like this guy, we don't need him. Uh, James Rapine

2101
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 1: over that s I of course I'll locked on Bendals

2102
01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:57,120
Speaker 1: podcast and Bendle's Talk dot com post a new stuff

2103
01:41:57,120 --> 01:42:00,439
Speaker 1: about our conversation today were talking about. Go check that out. James,

2104
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:02,719
Speaker 1: all the best. Appreciate you all season long and anything breaks,

2105
01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:04,879
Speaker 1: we'll have you back on. But have a great offseason.

2106
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:07,800
Speaker 2: Man, Appreciate you, Thanks, Scott, appreciate you. Take care.

2107
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 1: Let's get a time out in. We're running late. We've

2108
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:11,320
Speaker 1: got news on the way. That means Willie is just

2109
01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:14,599
Speaker 1: ahead here on seven hundred ww Cincinnati