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Speaker 1: Ah, poor Emily, she's so jacked up. It's crazy. What

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Speaker 1: that was going on last year was a wild how

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Speaker 1: many different little ailments that hit you. I mean some

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Speaker 1: were self inflected, but then there's others, you know, that

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Speaker 1: you've been dealing with, like this neck issue of yours.

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Speaker 1: I can't do you know how this all began or

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Speaker 1: it just started progressing, or what's going on with this?

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Speaker 2: Since for as long as I can remember in my

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Speaker 2: adult life, I've had a lot of tightness in my back.

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Speaker 3: I hold all my stress there, but that's normal.

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Speaker 2: But I've always done what you guys see me doing here,

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Speaker 2: which is grab my back and like have to feel

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Speaker 2: the need to like put pressure on it. And just

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Speaker 2: like I don't know, I've just always kind of been

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Speaker 2: uncomfortable in my upper body. But over the last couple

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Speaker 2: of years it's been my neck and the left side

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Speaker 2: of my neck particularly, But it's just been like a

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Speaker 2: bit of a stiff neck.

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Speaker 1: You got a bad pillow or something.

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Speaker 3: I've tried. I've switched different pillow.

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Speaker 2: I've given that a shot, asked for, you know, guidance

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Speaker 3: Do I need harder, softer? Thicker.

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Speaker 2: What kind of stuff do I need? So I've I've

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Speaker 2: done done stuff like that and tried that. I've tried massage,

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Speaker 2: I've tried acupuncture.

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Speaker 3: And this was all before I got an MRI. So

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Speaker 3: that was before I knew what was really going on.

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Speaker 4: And did any of that stuff make it better, make

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Speaker 3: Or not? Really? Not really?

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Speaker 1: So yeah, last year you finally got that MRI. Which

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Speaker 3: The MRI happened on the second try try. I'm I've grown.

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Speaker 2: I've always been claustrophobic, but in my older age it's

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Speaker 3: I flipped out, started crying hysterically. I can't do it.

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Speaker 3: So I left and then they said, you know, called

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Speaker 3: I was. They gave me a couple of valume and.

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Speaker 5: A couple yea, that was a fun gapon.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm just you know, care free and like not

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Speaker 1: So what did they find?

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Speaker 3: So they found that it's a thing called.

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Speaker 2: Multi level spondylosis, which is a term because there's.

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Speaker 3: A couple of things going on in my neck.

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Speaker 2: It's like I have there are lots of arthritis in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when my because this happens a lot with like

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Speaker 4: But I feel like that's what sucks about well, it

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Speaker 5: Is this just like it's both, you know, but it's

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Speaker 2: I did not like that because I'm sitting on the

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Speaker 3: So I it's that extreme, but it's only.

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Speaker 2: A couple of minutes, right, So I finally said okay,

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Speaker 2: I started crying a little bit, not hysterical. I'm all, well,

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Speaker 2: they would were very kind and they didn't act like that.

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Speaker 2: They were like, that's what are they at you?

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Speaker 3: You know, I was really scared. I was really scared.

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Speaker 4: I'm proud of you that you even showed up to

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Speaker 2: Anyway, I was a big girl, put my big girl

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Speaker 2: pants on. You did I did it, Eddie, I did it.

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Speaker 2: And so that happened. And then they said that one,

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Speaker 5: Okay, And no, relief didn't kick in.

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Speaker 3: And this was like this. They call it like a

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Speaker 2: So it's the same thing with injections, but they go

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Speaker 3: This one was a little bit more involved. So I

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Speaker 1: Again, but you've already done it.

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Speaker 5: Someone likes her value.

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Speaker 3: I really do.

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Speaker 1: But you've gone through this process before, so now you

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Speaker 3: I still think I needed it because it was a

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Speaker 5: Oh I've got massive issues.

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Speaker 2: So I took that bad boy feeling great. He took

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. It's because I'm a big girl.

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Speaker 1: You're You were a self professed coward.

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Speaker 3: Coward was a big girl.

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Speaker 1: Nobody is going to give you prosper a big girl

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Speaker 2: The nurse basically called me a big girl. Oh really,

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Speaker 3: You're a big girl.

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Speaker 3: She did say what she came in though, she goes,

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Speaker 3: So I did it?

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Speaker 5: So will they do tests number two?

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Speaker 4: I don't Are we gonna abandon this procedure altogether.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure because I was keeping notes in my

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Speaker 3: They gave me a little piece of paper to keep

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Speaker 5: Going your pain journal. I'm assuming they grate on a curve,

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Speaker 5: you know what. So like my seven that I wrote

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Speaker 6: That being said, though I saw her sprain or ankle. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: Hurt.

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Speaker 2: I heard that was pretty low level, but I I

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Speaker 5: No, I saw you go down, and then you know,

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Speaker 5: I really hurt.

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Speaker 1: Guys.

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Speaker 3: Mama was a little self medicated.

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Speaker 1: Then, really, I love.

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Speaker 3: We have a theme going.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we do.

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Speaker 3: Some wines when I sprain my ankle.

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Speaker 2: Whenever I did do it, Yeah, soul, the pain, I

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Speaker 5: That's it.

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Speaker 2: When it happens, I'm shocked and then neck the worst,

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Speaker 5: And I always write scales.

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Speaker 6: Because whenever I go to the hospital'm in the emergency

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Speaker 6: I don't tend to me is like I can't move

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Speaker 6: So that's like I think anything, Yeah, I think anything

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Speaker 6: not saying I'm not just talking about me.

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Speaker 1: When you use a smiley face chart, you know, or

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Speaker 3: Very double frown.

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Speaker 2: No, here's the thing, Like I sitting my head straight

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Speaker 2: now is not that bad?

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Speaker 5: Oh bye?

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Speaker 3: If I go this.

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Speaker 7: Far left, that really hurts. But this is the worst.

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Speaker 7: Look down as far down as I can look, shut up,

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Speaker 7: and then it starts feeling like there's like a knife

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Speaker 7: digging in you. But that's like it's so it's a

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Speaker 7: day is night when I'm looking down. Don't maybe look down?

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Speaker 5: You look down and turn the left? Ten bro, Why

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Speaker 5: I don't know. Guys, are the surgery? Are they going

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Speaker 5: to do surgery? Get in there?

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Speaker 3: That's they're talking?

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Speaker 1: Is that the last option?

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Speaker 2: I think that there might be something between now and

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Speaker 6: You come in here in a neck brace? Because that

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Speaker 6: neck brace? Of course, it's so funny. They put my

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Speaker 6: when my wife got into that car accident months ago.

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Speaker 6: They put her in a neck.

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Speaker 5: Brace where you were waiting. You laughed, dude.

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Speaker 6: I was holding the baby and she was like this,

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Speaker 6: like just I couldn't turn. When they took it off,

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Speaker 6: it was like such a relief.

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Speaker 3: For you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Man, it's funny.

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Speaker 5: Man, it's funny.

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Speaker 1: Well, I hope you know, I don't even know you.

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Speaker 1: I hope for the best.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you will be good. Just give me some more value.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think that's a great And give me

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Speaker 1: some more values daily. Oh my god,