1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: It is show time. 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 2: That's good dud. 3 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. A very pleasant, good evening, everybody. Greetings 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: from the original Montgomery In home of the world's greatest ribs. 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to the West Miller Radio Show. I'm Dan Horde 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: with former Bearcats stand out Terry Nelson, my new favorite 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: podcaster and the star of the show, the head coach 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: of your UC Bearcats. That's here at four Wes Miller. 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: We are off to Atlanta tomorrow for a big game 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: coming up on Saturday against the Georgia Bulldogs. They are 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: eight and one. They're only lost this year in overtime 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 1: against an excellent Clemson team. You have taken on some 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: challenges in the non Big Twelve portion of the schedule, 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: and this is one of the toughest ones on the slate. 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, this will be a great opportunity, great game. They 16 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 3: I don't know what. I haven't checked the polls, and 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: nor do I care a whole lot about them this 18 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 3: time of year. 19 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: But when you look. 20 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 3: At the the at the Ken Pomp stuff, I mean, 21 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: they're one of the best teams in the country to 22 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 3: start the year, and they're doing some some really interesting things. 23 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: In the open court. 24 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: They're they're pressing, and they're playing extremely fast and speeding 25 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 3: you up defensively. That they've had a really nice start. 26 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 3: It's it's a it's a big time game, big time opportunity. 27 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 4: Average of ninety nine points a game, which is incredible. 28 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 4: What is it about Georgia. I mean, it's been the 29 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 4: last three or four years that we played Georgia or 30 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 4: in Georgia. Obviously there's some players there, but what about 31 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 4: the what's the connection. 32 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: I don't think that there's really it just kind of 33 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: by chance, right, we had the Georgia Tech Series, now Georgia, 34 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 3: and then I think Georgia will be back up this 35 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: way to play US neutral somewhere next year. 36 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: But I don't. I actually that's Clemson. I think that 37 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: it comes back here next year. I don't. I don't. 38 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: I think the Georgia win's a one off. But no, 39 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 3: I think it's more by chance. It wasn't There's there's 40 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: no nothing behind the scenes here. Intentionally just trying to 41 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: find quality games, and Georgia was look and we were 42 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 3: looking and it made sense to do it neutral. 43 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 4: Lauren said, you planned that game because she came over here, 44 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 4: so she said. 45 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: She was going to go back if because she moved 46 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: up from at Lea exactly. 47 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, she is hiding behind a post now trying 48 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: to apployd eye contact with you team, Allen. I can't 49 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: blame her. Yeah, there's a balancing act when you put 50 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: together your schedule. You know you're going to have so 51 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: many killer games in the Big Twelve, you want some 52 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: in the non conference you don't want too many. Did 53 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: you feel like you had a pretty good balance this year. 54 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's you know, we've said this publicly 55 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 3: quite a bit, guys. I think the first thing you're 56 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 3: trying to do is build a tournament resume with your 57 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 3: non conference schedule. Are there opportunities to do that? The 58 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: second thing you're trying to prepare for your league because 59 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 3: that's ultimately what's going to define your year in the 60 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: regular season. And then third, you want to make sure 61 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 3: there's some level of balance to keep you know, working 62 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 3: and building your team and learning your team, especially in 63 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 3: today's age. And I thought when we put together a 64 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: knock schedule, I thought we did that. 65 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: Is it fair for basketball? 66 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 4: Because Notre Dame had an early loss to Miami and 67 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 4: they're penalized for that ten in a row. But in 68 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 4: basketball it seems like it goes up and down based 69 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 4: on per game, Like you have a your game versus 70 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 4: Dayton and Xavier and Georgia and Clemson, and they can 71 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 4: really boost your net ranking or push them down and 72 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 4: bury you. 73 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 74 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 3: I think, And I haven't followed been a little preoccupied 75 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: and hadn't quite followed the football stuff. But I think 76 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: basketball and football are different because there's so many more opportunities, 77 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: you know, like and you get into the league, like 78 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: we played in the Big Twelve every night. It's the 79 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: neatest part about the league is every night's an opportunity 80 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: to get a big time win. Correct, And so that 81 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: is different than football, where maybe one loss can keep 82 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: you out of the playoff. It's not like that in 83 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: college basketball. 84 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: Fortunately. 85 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: All right, let's go back and do a bit of 86 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: an autopsy on the Xavier game. You haven't played a 87 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: ton of zone defense since you've been at Cincinnati. A 88 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: zone defense helped you get back into that game and 89 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: helped you take a lead with two and a half 90 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: minutes to go. Did you find something do you think 91 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: defensively in that game? 92 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: Well, you know, we were It was interesting I thought 93 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: going into the game defending the three point line was 94 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 3: a huge key. They were making eleven a game, top 95 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 3: five in the country, and made threes a game. You know, 96 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: they had inserted those you know, inserted a kid into 97 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: the starting lineup in the front court. So they were 98 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: putting five guys in their starting lineup that are all 99 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 3: very capable from three and defending two shooters in the 100 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 3: front courts. Unique it'll happen again this year. But you know, 101 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 3: you guys that are coming off of games they've made 102 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 3: five threes that, you know, the starting five man, the 103 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: starting four man in recent games that each made five 104 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 3: threes each. That presented some different types of challenges, and 105 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 3: I thought, you know, our game plan was to really 106 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 3: make sure that we were able to defend the three 107 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 3: point line, make them score over us around the basket. 108 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: I was frustrated with our defense in the game because 109 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: we did defend the three point line, but we weren't 110 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 3: disciplined to make them score over us. We fouled, gave 111 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: up and one opportunities. We gave up a basket where 112 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 3: we didn't sprint back in transition after a made basket, 113 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 3: which is unacceptable. And then uh, they made a bunch 114 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 3: of two's over the top, and that that's that's something 115 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: that we've always been really good at is making it 116 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 3: tough to score too. So anyway, we get into the 117 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: second half and it just made sense at that point 118 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 3: to try something different in the zone workforce. 119 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 4: You said that you didn't think that Carol could score 120 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 4: over Baba and Mustafa one on one. 121 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 3: What did you see consistently assistently? Because it certainly it 122 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 3: were at a level of basketball where everybody can make 123 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: a one on one tough shot. That's sometimes you just 124 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: clap your hands and you run back the other way 125 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: and play the next possession, right, I mean, that's going 126 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 3: to happen at this level, But you know to to 127 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 3: to to get scored on over the top as much 128 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: as we did. That surprised me. But you allow somebody 129 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: to get in a rhythm by giving them easy ones. 130 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 3: Now they get to two feet with an angle, get 131 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: fouled and one, And we made a lot of errors, 132 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: very simple errors to allow those, and then people get 133 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 3: in a rhythm and it's easier for them to make 134 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 3: the tougher ones. 135 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: And I thought he did a little bit of both, right. 136 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 3: He got easy ones, he got to the foul line, 137 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 3: and then he was able to make some really tough 138 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 3: ones over the top to close the game. 139 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: Hindsight, it's always twenty twenty. What, if anything, would you 140 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: do differently against him? 141 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: Well, I think we would have spent more time on, 142 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: you know, how to defend that action where they just 143 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 3: kind of like set a pick and roll for him 144 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 3: on the side and he drives it and flips his hips. 145 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 3: You know, late in the game when we somebody asked me, like, 146 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: why didn't you double more? Well, we were in the zone, 147 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: you know, like one of the things we did. We 148 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 3: went to the zone. We were trying to get to 149 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: the double. We talked about it, and we got to 150 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 3: it on one possession late in the game. There were 151 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 3: two possessions he scored over the top. One of them 152 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 3: was after they broke the zone kind of switched into man, 153 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 3: and then the other one he had drove from the 154 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: perimeter and just kind of made a quick move. So 155 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 3: we were trying to double him more, but we probably 156 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 3: to spend a little more time defending that because it 157 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: was what they were kind of going to over and 158 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: over again. 159 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 4: I noticed in practice there seems to be what I 160 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 4: used to call with Bob Huggins the Jack be Nimble experience, 161 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 4: where you light a fire into somebody and you make 162 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: them try to try to get them to play with 163 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 4: a little bit more urgency in practice. I've been seeing 164 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 4: a little bit more of that lately. Is that because 165 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 4: you're trying to turn up for the conference? Are you 166 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 4: just trying to get them prepared one game at a 167 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 4: time for that? 168 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: I just think I was really excited to have a 169 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: week of practice. You know it's been a while. 170 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 3: Yeah that I'm not guys, I ain't making excuses or complaining. 171 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: I just as a coach, I live for practice. 172 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: I live live for the opportunity to go in there 173 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: and work and get better and you know, teach and 174 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: like you said, you know, try to make the team 175 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: a better team. And we had a week to do that. 176 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: And so I think there was an opportunity to coach 177 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 3: in a lot of different ways, and maybe one of 178 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 3: them is what you're talking about. That was very intentional 179 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: to try to create some urgency in some certain areas 180 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: that we got to improve. 181 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: Mustapha Chim has not been able to take advantage of 182 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: his size and athletic ability lately as much as he 183 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: did earlier. This year. What are you working on with him? 184 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: Well, we need him to be a force. We need 185 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 3: to be a presence. We need him to be a 186 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: great rebounder on both ends. We need him to be 187 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: a shot blocker and a rim protector defensively. You know, 188 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 3: I thought in the Xavier game we did a nice 189 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: job of getting the ball within four or five feet, 190 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 3: like I thought, we were able to establish the post 191 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: box with him. We didn't convert enough there. We're gonna 192 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 3: keep trying to get him the ball. We need him 193 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 3: to convert down there and kind of find his rhythm offensively. 194 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 3: But there's no doubt about it. He's a big time player. 195 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: We need him to play like a big time player, 196 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 3: and I believe he will. We're hard at work at it. 197 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: Break all right, yep, we'll take a time out. You 198 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: are listening to the West Miller Radio Show or Live 199 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: at the Original Montgomery In Home of the World's Greatest Rips. 200 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: On seven hundred, we are back at the Original Montgomery 201 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: In Home of the World's Greatest Rips and the West 202 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: Miller Radio Show. We appreciate the Bearcat fans are with 203 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: us here tonight. We will have some stuff to give 204 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: away at the end of the show some Bearcat gear 205 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: and some tickets to the bearcats next home game. Their 206 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: next game, though, of course, is on the road this 207 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: Saturday at Georgia. That's at two o'clock start. It's in Georgia, 208 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: I should say, it's not a true road game. It's 209 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, obviously closer to the University of Georgia. Starts 210 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: at two o'clock in the afternoon. Paba Miller missed a 211 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: couple of games. He's been back for a couple of 212 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: games now, probably playing at less than one hundred percent, 213 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: and even at less than one hundred percent. He had 214 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: seventeen rebounds in the Xavier game, a new career high 215 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: for him. You spoke with reporters earlier today and it 216 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: sounds like he's getting healthier and healthier at practice. 217 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 3: He has been able to put days together this week, 218 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 3: which is to me what led to a really great 219 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: start for him of the season. He was one of 220 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 3: our him and Dada Thomas and in terms of practice 221 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 3: have been our most consistent guys day in, day out, 222 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 3: and no mistake that those guys have had the start 223 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: they've had, but him missing practice affected him. It was 224 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 3: very obvious to our eyes as coaches again getting back 225 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 3: in the rhythm of practice this week, I suspect that 226 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: don't really help him. 227 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 4: I've noticed that during this time you were early on, 228 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 4: when you start getting the injuries to your team, you 229 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 4: start giving them more breaks in between, and you start 230 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 4: taking a little bit softer approch, not a softer approach, 231 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 4: but not trying to push him as hard in certain 232 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 4: areas because you want to just get to the game. 233 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 4: But now that they're getting back healthy, I see you 234 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 4: doing more with pressing and defenses and just trying out 235 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 4: different things. Is that intentional? 236 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: I just hate the dynamic you talked about. You can 237 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: call it soft, it's what it is. 238 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you got guys hurt, you can't practice, 239 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 3: and it's not they're not being soft. 240 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: But hell, that's what I'm not going to the place 241 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 2: I just told you. I live for practice. 242 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, but if guys are hurt and can't practice, what 243 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 3: are you supposed to do? And you know, we were 244 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 3: in a segment there where we were doing walkthroughs, not 245 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 3: practices because we didn't have enough to be able. 246 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: To practice there for a little bit. And no, that's 247 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: no fun. That's no fun. I don't love that. 248 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 3: You can call it any bad word you want, I 249 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 3: won't disagree with it. But the no I think you 250 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: have to this is basketball is like anything. There's no secrets. 251 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 3: Like there's no secrets. It takes what it takes. The 252 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 3: work is the work. The preparation is the preparation. And 253 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 3: you know, again, I'm Fit's felt good this week to 254 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 3: be able to get back in the gym and do that. 255 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: You have an approach of trying to build your players up. 256 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: You want them to feel confident when they take the court, 257 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: and part of that is giving them freedom to take 258 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: shots that you think they can make and they think 259 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: they can make. But I wonder sometimes if there's a 260 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,599 Speaker 1: fine line when a guy who maybe doesn't have a 261 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: great percentage and a key situation in the game takes 262 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: one and you have to say, Okay, there are times 263 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: to take that shot and other times not too. 264 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: It's coaching, right, You get the film, you you get 265 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 3: on the practice court, and you start really defining roles. Right. 266 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 3: We've been doing that for the last two or three weeks. 267 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 3: It doesn't mean that you still won't have a moment 268 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: in a game where somebody will be eighteen to twenty 269 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 3: two years old and do something they're not supposed to do. 270 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 3: But I do think shot selection is going to be 271 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 3: really important to our ability to improve our offense as 272 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 3: a team. 273 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 4: I spoke about this on the Legends Unpluged podcast. You guys, 274 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 4: make sure you go ahead and do that. 275 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: It's excellent. Yes, so big thumbs up from your broadcast 276 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: partner Dan Horde. 277 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 2: Appreciate it. 278 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 4: Reve we were seven to zero in the nineteen ninety 279 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 4: two season. Ninety one ninety two, we go to Michigan State, 280 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 4: we had a nineteen point league. We end up losing 281 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 4: at the Buzzer. And back then was now it was 282 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 4: during the time. Right now, there's no twenty hour rule, 283 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 4: so you can practice as long as you want. So 284 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 4: the Hugs would make us do two a days. And 285 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 4: then so after running us for a while, he put 286 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 4: us all on the baseline and said this is your role, 287 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 4: and he went down one. I won and went to 288 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 4: everybody and he came to me and he said, Terry, 289 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 4: you work the hardest that we have. I need you 290 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 4: to rebound, I need you to block out, need you 291 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 4: to play post defense. But if you don't go hard. 292 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: You can't pass, you can't shoot, you can't. 293 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 4: He just went through all this stuff that I can't do, 294 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 4: and I didn't hear any of that. All I heard 295 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 4: was if I want to play, play, post defense, play, 296 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 4: you know, box out, do whatever. But it gave me 297 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 4: the ability to say, this is what he sees in me, 298 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 4: and if I do this, I can make a difference 299 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 4: for the team. Do you have those conversations or they 300 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 4: just kind of know based on the roles that you 301 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 4: are planning out with offensive defensive strategy. 302 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have those conversations, maybe in a different way 303 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: than you could do in the nineties. 304 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 3: I mean you also got to have those conversations with 305 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: the agent. 306 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: Yes. 307 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: And then there's a transfer port, you know, so it's 308 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 3: not you know, yes, if you were pissed about it, 309 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 3: you could you walk out of the door and transfer 310 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 3: it back in ninety one ninety that's right, Corey. 311 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 2: No, you do, Listen, you do. 312 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 3: And there's certain fundamentals of coaching that are the exact 313 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: same as they were fifty years ago, and that's what's fun. 314 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 3: And then there's there's certain dynamics that are much different. 315 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 3: I think I think, yes, you're trying to define what 316 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: guy's strengths are getting them to play to their strengths, 317 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 3: getting them to sacrifice maybe something they want to do 318 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 3: for something that would be better for our team for 319 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 3: them to do. We're having those conversations for sure. I 320 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 3: think we have good kids that are trying to buy 321 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 3: in and want to win. 322 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: You express some optimism after the Xavier game, and I 323 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: feel like some people took it the wrong way, like 324 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: you weren't upset with the loss, which obviously nothing could 325 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: be further from the truth. Probably put your fist through 326 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: a back blackboard or something like that. But what did 327 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: you see in that game that was caused for optimism 328 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: and positivity? 329 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, there's no way I didn't know that. 330 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 2: I'm deleted social media a while back. I only have 331 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 2: the apps on my phone, so to how smart. It's 332 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: a much better way to live. I'll tell you what 333 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 2: it makes. It makes life, not just for anything with basketball, 334 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: just in general. 335 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 3: I mean now, when I open my phone, I read 336 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 3: my news apps, so I know what's going on in 337 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 3: the world. But the. 338 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: No I listen nobody. 339 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: I don't know if I could even describe the pain 340 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 3: that you feel after a loss. 341 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: You know, it's a it's a deep pain. Uh. 342 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 3: You know, you put your whole life and you nest 343 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 3: into something and when you lose, I don't I don't 344 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 3: even have the words to describe the. 345 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: Pain that you feel. 346 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 3: But that said, you know, the job of a coach 347 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: of a player is to learn to get back to 348 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 3: work and to figure out how to grow and to 349 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 3: become a great team. And so you know to me 350 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 3: that that's what you do with the loss. You learn, 351 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: you learn, you're gonna feel that pain. Like it doesn't. 352 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 3: I'm still upset about the game somewhere down here, like 353 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 3: I don't like to talk about it, but that's my 354 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: job is coming here and talk with you guys and 355 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 3: answer questions. But the truth is you got to learn 356 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 3: from it. You gotta channel it, and when you're winning 357 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 3: games in the Big Twelve later in the year, the 358 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 3: things that you went through at some point that that 359 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 3: didn't feel good have to be a catalyst for you 360 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 3: to be a good team. And those of us that 361 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 3: have been in it a long time, you know, you 362 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 3: know that's how it always works, and so that that's 363 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 3: the goal. 364 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: That's the job. 365 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 3: And there were some moments in that game, you know 366 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 3: that were positive. What I would say is had we 367 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: hit a shot to go up one under two minutes, 368 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 3: had we we have won that last two minutes, you 369 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 3: guys be asking me all these fun questions tonight about. 370 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 2: How good is it? You know that, well, you know, 371 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: you got to put things in perspective sometimes too. 372 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 3: So we did some good things to come back from 373 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 3: a thirteen point deficit, to take a lead on the 374 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 3: road and a rivalry game. You know, that's something we 375 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 3: can build on. And there's a lot that we've already 376 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 3: talked about that we can learn from. 377 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 4: The great pat Riley said there's winning and there's misery. Sure, 378 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 4: and that's exactly what you feel when you put your 379 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 4: whole life into the preparation in doing all that and 380 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 4: then you lose. Tell you it's tough for you guys 381 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 4: that don't if you played sports on any level. 382 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, I say this, Terry, and I 383 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 3: think you'll appreciate this, and anybody's listening, I think I'll 384 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 3: appreciate this. 385 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: Is you feel like as low as you could ever feel. 386 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 3: But sometimes you take a step back and you think 387 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 3: about I'm coaching basketball, we're playing basketball, and think about 388 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 3: how great our lives are, how fortunate we. 389 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: Are, who the hell wants to hear me complain? No 390 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 2: serious that people. 391 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 3: Out there working nine to five and struggling to put pop. 392 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: Who wants to hear me complain? My job, into complain 393 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 3: is to figure ou how to get our damn team better. 394 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 3: And so when I stand in front of the media, 395 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 3: I sit here in a radio interview, Hell, what do 396 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 3: I have to complain about? My job is to go 397 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 3: get us better and that's where my focus is. 398 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: So you guys get right to it. 399 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 4: Like when the game's over, you guys don't know, he 400 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 4: doesn't go home and have a big stake and hang 401 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 4: out like his assistant coaches are breaking down to film 402 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 4: and you guys are going over what just took place, 403 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 4: So you don't really get a mental break. So you're 404 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 4: still in game mode. You try to, you know, Dan 405 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 4: and myself or Dan and Steve, try to take some 406 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 4: steam off in the radio interview before you get to 407 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 4: the media room and you know, project to the world. 408 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 2: But then you have to go right back and look 409 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 2: at what you just saw. What is that like? 410 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 4: For those that don't know. 411 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 3: It's the only thing that I can do after a game, 412 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 3: because if not, your brain is so eat win winter lost. 413 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 3: Your brain's wired and all you can think about is 414 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,959 Speaker 3: the game and everything that happens. So the only thing 415 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 3: that you're not going to be able to go to sleep. 416 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 3: The only thing that makes any sense is to get 417 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 3: to work. And for me, in any of the difficult 418 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 3: things I've ever experienced in basketball, the only thing that 419 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 3: it helps is working harder. And so you know, when 420 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 3: lose your draw, we get in the room and grade 421 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 3: the film and start figuring out how we can get better. 422 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: Did you start that or did you get that from 423 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: one of your previous as coaches. 424 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 3: That's what my college coach did, And you know, when 425 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 3: I was playing, you know, a couple of times I 426 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 3: would go ask to watch them grade the tape because 427 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 3: they call out the grades and I wanted to see 428 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 3: how that went. And then when I was getting into coaching, 429 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 3: I would sit and help them grade and do that 430 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 3: as a young person that wanted to coach. And then 431 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 3: even you know, I was so fortunate that my mentor 432 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 3: and coach was coaching an hour from me. You know, 433 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 3: when I was a young head coach, and I probably 434 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 3: a couple of games a year, I wouldn't go to 435 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 3: the game, but I drive down there when the game 436 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 3: was over, just to sit in and watch them grade, 437 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 3: you know, just to see if I could pick something 438 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 3: up or learn something. And sometimes I felt like we 439 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 3: were doing it like them, and I'd go watch them 440 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 3: and go, hell, we ain't doing it like as good 441 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 3: as they're doing it. You know, you might learn something, 442 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 3: but no, I we greade and it's not the exact 443 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 3: same system in process that I learned from from my 444 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 3: college coach. We've tweaked it, we've altered it to fit 445 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 3: what we're doing. But that's where the whole thing started. 446 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 3: I'm not that original, to be honest. 447 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: When you've added new members to your coaching staff and 448 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: you explain that this is part of the process, did 449 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: they go away? 450 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 4: What? 451 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not going out to dinner right. 452 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 453 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: It's in the in the circles of all the guys 454 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 3: that I've worked with that and most of us are 455 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 3: all still very close guys that we've worked with over 456 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 3: the last fifteen years. That's like the one joke they 457 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 3: all have, like I don't miss the grading, or you know, 458 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: a new guy gets hired and they see somebody that 459 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: used to work with us on the road, how you 460 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 3: get ready for the grading. 461 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 2: You know, like they assistants don't like it. 462 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 3: But I will say I've had a number of assistant 463 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 3: coaches that have appreciated it because you. 464 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 2: Get the team, you get the staff on the same page. 465 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 3: You learn, you really teach young coaches how to watch film. 466 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: It's something I really. 467 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 4: Do value you, mikeel on the staff, you would challenge 468 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 4: you on the sideline, and it was a crazy dynamic. 469 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 4: You guys are going back and forth on the sideline. 470 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 4: Is there anybody that challenged you, not in a physical way, 471 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 4: but saying, look, I think we need to do this 472 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 4: when you have a strong opinion. 473 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 3: Otherwise I'm main man, Mike, I mis amen, Mike. He's 474 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 3: doing great. He's this assistant at New Mexico. They're off 475 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: to a great start. So shout out to Mike Roberts. 476 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 3: But oh yeah, we would get into some altercations. 477 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: Dan and I would be bumpling to like this. It's funny, man. 478 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 3: I walked into Starbucks one morning and we were coaching 479 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 3: down at the mid major school in North Carolina together, 480 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 3: and we used to go to the same Starbucks every 481 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 3: morning on the way to work. 482 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 2: And I walked in. 483 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 3: And one of the fans that comes to the game 484 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,239 Speaker 3: stop me, and he goes, are you okay with your 485 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: assistant coach? 486 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: What are you talking about? 487 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 3: And I said, grasp you guys from about twenty last night, 488 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 3: you okay with your assistants? 489 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: I said, what are you talking about? 490 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 3: He said, you guys got into it on the side, 491 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 3: and I was like, that's just how we communicate. 492 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: Man like. 493 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 3: But uh no, that was great and we worked together 494 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 3: for ten years and we had a really good dynamic 495 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 3: for sure. 496 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: All right, Well, take a time out of questions from 497 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: the audience when we continue. This is the West Miller 498 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: Radio Show or Live at the Original Montgomery In Home 499 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: of the World's Greatest Ribs on seven hundred w allw 500 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the West Miller Radio Show, Live from 501 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: the original Montgomery In Home of the world's Greatest Ribs. 502 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: I think we're on next Tuesday next week. If I'm 503 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: not mistaken because of the schedule next week, it'll be 504 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: well double check before the end of the show tonight. 505 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: In any case, let's take some questions from the audience. 506 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: Phillis as batting lead off tonight coach. 507 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 5: This kind of dovetails with Dan's comment just a little 508 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 5: bit this may seem it's from observation and might be 509 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 5: somewhat tough for you. We like hearing that there's good 510 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 5: practice and that it sounds really, you know, really encouraging, 511 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 5: but it hasn't appeared to translate many times in performance 512 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 5: on the floor, and that seems to be a bit 513 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 5: of a disconnect. The fan base, for better or for worse, 514 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 5: would like to see the intensity of the coaching to 515 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 5: turn up and get a little tougher. And we know 516 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 5: that good people can be very demanding, but is there. 517 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 2: A downside to that to be demanding, to be. 518 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 5: Demanding and expecting more of the players than what they're 519 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 5: doing delivering at that point. Because we know we have 520 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 5: good players, that's not even a question, but it seems 521 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,719 Speaker 5: that there needs to be more demanded of them and 522 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 5: to be a little tougher on them because and I 523 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 5: know it's a mishmash, we only had three returners, so 524 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 5: it makes it really complicated. But I think sometimes with 525 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 5: coaching and leading, that the expectation has to be up 526 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 5: here and then moved down from from the top of 527 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 5: really being hard to being okay, this is where we 528 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 5: are kind of coaching and leading. 529 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the standard has to be high. I 530 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 3: think that's what's being demanded of them. So yeah, that's 531 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 3: from my perspective. Yes, that you're right in what you're saying, 532 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 3: and the application of that is happening. 533 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: Thank you, sure, Thanks Phyllis. Before we get to Brian, 534 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: the show is on Tuesday on December thirtieth, so not 535 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: next week, but the week after Christmas. We'll have a 536 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: Tuesday show, not a Thursday show. 537 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 2: Bryan, you're up, coach. I don't know a thing about Georgia. 538 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 2: What do they do? 539 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 3: Press press, speed the game up. They lead the nation 540 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 3: and shot blocking. So as they speed the game up, 541 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 3: they steal the ball, they turn the they turn you 542 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 3: over to high rate their top ten in the country there. 543 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 3: When you shoot shots quickly around the rim, they turn 544 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 3: those into turnovers by blocking shots and altering shots. 545 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 2: And then they're. 546 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 3: Playing about as fast as you can play, converting defense 547 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 3: to offense with a ton of guards that are downhill oriented, 548 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 3: shoot a lot of threes, touch the paint a lot. 549 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 2: They have an athletic front court. 550 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 3: So again, playing eleven guys, they're playing eleven deep, playing 551 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 3: extremely fast on offense and defense. 552 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: And it's really playing eleven deep too. They're all averaging 553 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: double digit minutes. It's not like the eleventh guy gets 554 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: in there for four correct, Yeah, all right, next question. 555 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 2: Uh two parter here? 556 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 6: Uh do we have an update on Gisel James for 557 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 6: one and two? Does a player like that fit with 558 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 6: this lineup? With the men of ball dominant cards that 559 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 6: we have. 560 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 2: From a basketball perspective. I don't have any updates. 561 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 3: But he's doing great, really proud of I'm really happy 562 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 3: for him. But I don't have any basketball updates and 563 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 3: uh so then you know, I guess it's not appropriate 564 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 3: to answer the second part of the question. 565 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: All right, thank you very much. 566 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 7: Yeah, coach, My question is more on the offensive side. 567 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: I think you do. 568 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 7: You've done over the years pretty good job on the 569 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 7: defensive side. Offensive side. With this year's team, you have 570 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 7: a better inside presence than you've had in a while. 571 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,959 Speaker 7: What are your thoughts on the balance between you know, 572 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 7: the inside game, When do you really emphasize that during 573 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 7: the game versus the analytics of that you're seeing out 574 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 7: there of you know, everybody wants to shoot the threes 575 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 7: and so forth. What's that balance? Because you have to 576 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 7: have the inside game, you have to have guys that 577 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 7: drive the ball to basket, finish or get the free 578 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 7: throw line, as well as guys that. 579 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: Can shoot the three. 580 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 7: Three shooting has been a struggle for this team. How 581 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 7: do you take advantage of what you have now as 582 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 7: an inside game and how early do you deploy that. 583 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 3: It's a great question. The you know, the first thing 584 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 3: with the three point shooting is we have a roster 585 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 3: full of guys that haven't not just projected that they 586 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 3: could go shoot threes. Well, they've already shot threes well 587 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 3: in their careers, right, So at some point, and I 588 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 3: believe it will happen, we're going to shoot the ball 589 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 3: well from three. We made eleven in our last game, 590 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 3: so that's that's a step in the right direction. But 591 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 3: if you're just shooting threes, right, that's knocking. To be enough, 592 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 3: we have to establish ourselves in the postbox, right. 593 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: We're trying to do that. 594 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 3: We're trying to do that through Mustapha Chim, We're trying 595 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 3: to do that through Baba Miller. We're trying to do 596 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 3: it to start games and start halfs. If you look 597 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 3: at the start of most games, we start a possession 598 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 3: by throwing it into the box you know, the first 599 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 3: possession against a the night we throw it in, they 600 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 3: double Baba, Boba the ball, kick it out, hit a 601 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 3: three day, it hits it three to start the I 602 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 3: mean we're trying to do it. I thought we actually 603 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 3: got the ball into the box. To Mustafa, Well, we've 604 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 3: had knights we didn't I mean we got it that, 605 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 3: we didn't get in enough against Louisville and he had 606 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 3: it going against Louisville. Right, we've had nights that we 607 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 3: got it in there and we didn't convert. We got 608 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 3: it in there pretty good to him. I thought he 609 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 3: had a couple of really nice looks to start the 610 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 3: second half, running the rim, getting early post catches. He's 611 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 3: gonna convert those. Baba's been our most consistent guy. It's 612 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 3: scoring around the basket, putting pressure on the basket, whether 613 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 3: it's the drive or the back to the basket game. 614 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,479 Speaker 3: We need that from other guys. Since your Harris has 615 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 3: been pretty consistent at driving the ball and getting to 616 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 3: the rim. We are getting fouled more than we've ever 617 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 3: gotten fouled since I've been at Cincinnati. So we're getting 618 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 3: to the free throw line. We're not converting, right, I 619 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 3: mean we're shooting fifty percent. And you know, you look 620 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 3: at the last game right from a shot disparity standpoint, 621 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 3: because this is what we go in there after the 622 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 3: game and we evaluate every aspect of it. You know, 623 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 3: shot the ball well from three for the first time 624 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 3: in a while. 625 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 2: That was great. 626 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 3: We actually got to the basket with angled shots. We 627 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 3: didn't take a bunch of contested midi twos that are 628 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 3: the lowest percented shots in our game. We get to 629 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 3: the basket, we miss miss four layups. I'm not talking 630 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 3: about layups that the coach is going, heah. You could 631 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 3: may say it's a layup, but it was contested. We 632 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: missed four point blank layups. Those are one hundred percent 633 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 3: shots in college basketball. They didn't go in. We got 634 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 3: the ball into mu a couple times twice, and we 635 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 3: missed two and a half footers. 636 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 2: Those should be about ninety percent converted. 637 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 3: So and then we miss a eleven free throw So offensively, 638 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 3: in the last game, the shot disparity, the rim pressure, 639 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 3: that getting to the free throw line, the getting the ball. 640 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: To the post box, we executed that, but. 641 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 3: We leave eleven on the free throw line, right, we 642 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 3: missed six layups or opportunities that it the worst case, 643 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 3: you're five for six, Well, that's going to be a 644 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 3: big disparity in the game. Now, we haven't executed offense 645 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 3: to that degree in every game to start the year. 646 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 3: We need to execute offense that consistently, and then we 647 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 3: need to convert more consistently. But establishing the box, you're 648 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 3: absolutely right. Whether it's through the post, whether it's through 649 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 3: the drive, whether it's through a cut, whether it's through 650 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 3: a transition layup, whether it's defense to offense, that's got 651 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 3: to happen. 652 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 8: All right, next question, Okay, following up on the last question, So, 653 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 8: Baba Miller, it's specifically so he was over four and 654 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 8: then shootout from three, but it looked like he had 655 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 8: the advantage inside. He's either gonna get double teamed or 656 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 8: he's gonna score inside. So when when do you coach 657 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 8: up and say yet, it's not your night, don't don't 658 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 8: keep shooting the three. And there's a kind of a 659 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 8: two part question. I think he can shoot the three, 660 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 8: but he hasn't shown it yet this year. So that's 661 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 8: the second part of the clesson is that is that 662 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 8: part of his game that you want, that you encourage 663 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 8: or is like, no, no, get down low, do your thing, 664 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 8: because you have a lot of talent and you can 665 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 8: score it will down there pretty much. 666 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Bob's over four from three in the Savior game. 667 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 2: It's what you're referring to. 668 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 3: He's been such a force in all aspects of the 669 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 3: game for us to start the year. You know, certainly 670 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 3: I trust Baba. Boba's been our most consistent player to 671 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 3: start the year before the injurygue in the Louisville game, 672 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 3: Baba already showed that he could shoot the three a 673 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 3: year ago at Florida Atlantic, So you're not talking about 674 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 3: somebody that hasn't made threes. Number two, We stat every 675 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 3: three in practice. In practice, in drills, we find that 676 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,479 Speaker 3: if you can shoot seventy percent or better, that's going 677 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 3: to translate to better than thirty three percent in live play. 678 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 3: Baba shoots seventy five percent in our shooting drills. From 679 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 3: the summer till now. We have confidence that Baba can 680 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 3: shoot it. 681 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 2: His ability to. 682 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 3: Stretch the floor will be very important for this team 683 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 3: over the course of the year. Now, do we want 684 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 3: him to maybe take two less in the last game 685 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 3: where he could have maybe driven the ball and put pressure. 686 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 2: Yes, and that's why we watched. 687 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 3: The film and we point that out to him and 688 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 3: point that out to the team that this isn't about 689 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 3: not shooting the ball, because I will tell you, guys, 690 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 3: in coaching, missing shots is really difficult. Having guys that 691 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 3: are afraid to shoot or don't believe they have the 692 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 3: confidence to shoot is way worse. 693 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 2: Okay, So it's not always as simple. 694 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 3: We want guys to play confidently, as Dan mentioned earlier 695 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 3: with the question, but we got to continue to get 696 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 3: better with shots election. 697 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 2: I think we've improved there over the last couple of weeks. 698 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 3: Results in the win lost column may not feel good, 699 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 3: but we do believe in that area that we're evaluating, 700 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 3: we have improved and we'll continue to improve. 701 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 9: Brian Coach, I know that Chom you're asking him to 702 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 9: do some stuff that he has not been asked to 703 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 9: do in the past. As far as his inside game, 704 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 9: How is he developing there? I mean, we can see 705 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 9: what's happening in the game, but just what are you 706 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 9: seeing in practice and the way he's approaching it and 707 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 9: how he is progressing with what you're asking him to 708 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 9: do that he's not used to. 709 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think guys. You to put this in perspective, 710 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 3: Shawna Bayev and Mustafa Chalmer unbelievably gifted young players, like 711 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 3: they're special and they're gonna have these special basketball careers 712 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 3: long after this year. They're very young players, and they're 713 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 3: being asked to do things they've never been asked to 714 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 3: do with an intensity and a demand that they've never had, 715 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 3: u with a standard they've never been asked to do 716 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 3: it that that can be difficult. It's very healthy for them. 717 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 3: They're they're actually improving in front of our eyes. They're 718 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 3: gonna have success in league play because they've been through it. 719 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 3: But imagine if and this is an excuse, but just 720 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 3: so you see what you're looking at when you ask 721 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 3: these questions. I mean, Jalen Haynes is a fifth year 722 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 3: senior that was running up for the year in the 723 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 3: A ten last year, that averaged sixteen to ten. 724 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: Okay, Like now, that. 725 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 3: Puts less pressure on Mustafa when there's a guy at 726 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 3: his position that. 727 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 2: Was on a championship team in. 728 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 3: A great league last year on a great team and 729 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 3: was almost a Player of the Year in the league. 730 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 3: That's a fifth year senior that's twenty three years old. 731 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 2: Now that it's like the pressure on him to perform 732 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 2: is a little different. Right. 733 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 3: The good moments feel great, the negative moments there's somebody else, 734 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 3: So it's almost like having an understudy there to start 735 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 3: the year, somebody to work beside. Now the pressure's on 736 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 3: Mustafa to performed. This is great for his development. It 737 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 3: might not always be fun, you know, to watch the process. 738 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 3: It's the same thing for Sean Jalen. Celestine is a 739 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 3: fifth year senior, played at Calf, played at Baylor, played 740 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 3: on a tournament team, and basically hasn't hasn't performed in practice. 741 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 3: This week is the first time he's done three days 742 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 3: in a row since he got to Cincinnati. Okay, so 743 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 3: you know the guy at his position that's older and experienced. 744 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 3: So Shawn's been thrown completely into the fire. So then 745 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 3: we get to pick apart everything that he's doing or 746 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 3: not doing. The truth is they're both improving, and they're 747 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 3: both going to have great years, and they're both gonna. 748 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 2: Have terrific basketball. 749 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 3: Chris most likely in the NBA at some point. We're 750 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 3: just seeing some of that young stuff and they don't 751 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 3: have that older player beside him at their position. They 752 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 3: were supposed to have. That's okay, this is life. Do 753 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 3: it throws it at you and you just work through it. 754 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 3: And they're both working through it, and I think they're 755 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 3: both going to be great. 756 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: All Right, we need to take a time out. This 757 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: is the West Miller Radio Show or Live at the 758 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: Original Montgomery In Home of the World's Greatest Ribs. On 759 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW. We are back at the Original Montgomery 760 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: In Home of the World's Greatest Ribs and the West 761 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: Miller Radio Show. We're getting ready for a big road 762 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: game coming up on Saturday at two o'clock, Cincinnati will 763 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: be in Atlanta to take on the eight and one 764 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: Georgia Bulldogs. We've got about ten minutes left with coach. 765 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: Let's get to another question from the audience. Go ahead. 766 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 6: So I'm just curious with the new world of college 767 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 6: basketball in college sports, but the transfer portal, and I 768 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 6: all that, when does the process for next year begin 769 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 6: for you? 770 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 2: Are you doing that now? That began a long time ago? Okay, Okay, yeah, 771 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 2: thats uh. 772 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 3: I think you know and and and I'm again I 773 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 3: don't I don't ever try to be the person complaining 774 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 3: what what good's that gonna do? 775 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 2: That this new landscape's crazy. I mean, the. 776 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 3: Transfer portal process started before we ever played a game. 777 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, every every player now has an agent. 778 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 3: That agent has a roster. Every coach in the country 779 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 3: knows every agent's roster. Every coach in the country gets 780 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 3: text messages weekly about how their players are performing in 781 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,720 Speaker 3: other colleges to monitor them to follow. 782 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 2: I mean, this is going on. 783 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 3: You know, it's I'm not saying anything controversial, it's the truth. 784 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 3: So that's that's stuff's going on. And we're monitoring all 785 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 3: these players around college basketball that will be in the 786 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 3: transfer portal. I think at this point you just assume 787 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 3: every single player will be and uh and and staying 788 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 3: in touch with the people that are calling about them. 789 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 3: But you know, you're not breaking any rules, You're not 790 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 3: reaching out to anybody directly. But let's be honest, this 791 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 3: is just what's going on in college football in college 792 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 3: basketball every single day. 793 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,240 Speaker 2: Thanks for us, appreciate it. Sure now they're probably of questioning. 794 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 10: So the changes in the nil that are coming, I 795 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 10: think soon, do they change your approach at all? Is 796 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 10: there any changes to what you do based on the 797 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 10: changes that have coming? 798 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think for me, hiring Corey Evans was a 799 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,760 Speaker 3: game changing decision because we were able to hire somebody 800 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 3: that spends three hundred and sixty five days a year thinking. 801 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 2: About nil transfer portal and everything that goes into it. 802 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 3: And so, you know, and I think most schools are 803 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 3: now doing something along those lines because we're living in 804 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 3: this moment with our team trying to prepare for the 805 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 3: next game, you know, really trying to have a special year. 806 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 3: But having somebody that is not a part of that process, 807 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 3: that only thinks about the roster build that's coming, you know, 808 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 3: when the season ends. I think that was a big 809 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 3: adjustment for us. We talk about the changes that are 810 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 3: coming in college basketball, there's only been one consistent thing 811 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 3: over the last four years, is there'll be a change 812 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 3: every three months and then another change the next three 813 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 3: It's been hard to hit a moving target with strategy 814 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 3: because things change every recruiting cycle. The only thing you 815 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 3: can count on is it's going to change and it's 816 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 3: going to cost more money. 817 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 2: That's about all the two things that I think have 818 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 2: been consistent. Bob, So I'm talking about Mustapha. You mentioned 819 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 2: Jalen Haynes. 820 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 4: How's Jalen's recovery coming along, and will we see him 821 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:38,919 Speaker 4: on the court this year. 822 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 2: I'm hopeful. 823 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 3: His recovery's been miraculous to this point. Honestly, I think 824 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 3: it's the quickest recovery I've ever seen from an injury 825 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 3: like that. Our trainer, Bob man Jean, who's been doing 826 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 3: it for forty plus years, said the same thing. He's shooting, 827 00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 3: He's going through skill workouts. He participating in those aspects 828 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 3: of practice at times, but he's not practicing yet, not 829 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 3: even in non contact situations. But he is doing some 830 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 3: shooting workouts in some i'd say sixty seventy percent skill stuff. 831 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 3: I do think that there's a chance that we'll see 832 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 3: him in a Bearcat uniform. It will not be this 833 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 3: week or next week, but I do think it's possible 834 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 3: this year. You know, maybe that's wishful and hopeful thinking, 835 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 3: because I think he's pretty special, not just as a talent, 836 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 3: but as a functional player, experienced player, competitor. I thought 837 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 3: when we put this roster together that Sincere Harris and 838 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 3: Jalen Haynes were the most old school type Bearcats, I 839 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 3: think people out there listening will understand what I mean 840 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 3: by that, and had experience being that way over their 841 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 3: college careers, and I think people watch sincere understand exactly 842 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 3: what I'm talking about. Jalen Haynes, in his own way, 843 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 3: has that same moxie. So yeah, I really think i'd 844 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 3: like to have him back, and I think he's making 845 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 3: every effort to get back. 846 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,280 Speaker 1: Have you thought of his comeback in terms of, Okay, 847 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: if he can get back in early January and have 848 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 1: most of the Big twelve schedules still ahead, then it's 849 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,919 Speaker 1: well worth it. If it's closer to February, then it's 850 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: better off trying to see if he can get a 851 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: red shirt season. Do you think of it kind of 852 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:15,240 Speaker 1: in those terms? 853 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,399 Speaker 3: Well, I think I think you always have to think 854 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 3: about what's best for the human being coming off of injury. 855 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,959 Speaker 3: And you know, selfishly, I wanted if we can play 856 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 3: two games. 857 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 2: I want him to play. He's that good, you know, 858 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 2: he's that impactful. 859 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 3: He was probably our best player in our preseason stuff, 860 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 3: you know, and that type of thing. 861 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, I want him to play. 862 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 3: But I do think there's an aspect of what's the 863 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 3: right thing to do for the individual, and you'll always. 864 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 2: Answer that question first. 865 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 3: I'll tell you this though, I do think he deserves 866 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 3: another year, whether he plays or not. I think even 867 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 3: if he plays, he does when you look at he 868 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 3: had to sit out a year at George Mason when 869 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 3: the old transfer rules existed that told you had to 870 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,760 Speaker 3: sit out, and then halfway through the year they changed 871 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 3: them and said, oh, by the way, you can play 872 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 3: in January if you want now. And he didn't want 873 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 3: to waste a whole year playing half a year, and 874 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,720 Speaker 3: that was the NCAA going back and forth six times 875 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 3: in his career ain't fair. 876 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 2: He deserves another year no matter what. 877 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 3: So I hope he gets to play this year and 878 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,479 Speaker 3: then I'd like him to come back and play again 879 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 3: next year. 880 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 2: And I think he's got a hell of a case there. 881 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 2: I know the sound of that. 882 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that in house lawyer that can take 883 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 4: it up if you got you want somebody to help 884 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 4: with the process. But anyway, coach, in the in the 885 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 4: non in the on the off season, you did a 886 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 4: lot of team building exercises. You go different places. You 887 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 4: guys are doing a lot of stuff for the to 888 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 4: build camaraderie and sort of let the steam out because 889 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 4: you were going really hard in the summertime. What are 890 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 4: you doing personally to take some steam off? I know 891 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 4: you like the golf a lot. Are you hitting any 892 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 4: golf simulators? 893 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 3: No? Well, hell, who's playing golf in Cincinnati in the 894 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,280 Speaker 3: winter simulators? 895 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 2: That's why I said no. I know, I don't. I 896 00:40:58,760 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 2: don't need any time. 897 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 3: I need to spend my time getting better, Uh, working 898 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 3: with our team and preparing for the next game. 899 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 2: And I find health within that. Terry. 900 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 3: I get on the peloton, not as much as I should. 901 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 3: I probably should do that a little more. And I 902 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 3: got a great a great woman at home, and I'm 903 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 3: just cook blessed, blessed to have some some some time 904 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 3: twenty thirty minutes when I come home at night and 905 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 3: take a break and eat, and we get to spend 906 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 3: time together. 907 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 2: That's more than I need. 908 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,919 Speaker 1: I never heard did t nell sneak his way into 909 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving celebration? 910 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 2: Did that happen? He did not. He was invited. 911 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: He invited himself. We heard it, But then you were 912 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 1: legitimately invited. 913 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 2: You didn't make it, Huh, I did not make it. 914 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: That's unfortunate. 915 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 4: I'll be there Christmas now that I got the invite. 916 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 1: A standing it's to show up at every holiday. 917 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 8: I'm here. 918 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: We had a question from one of our Bearcad fans 919 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: tonight about already planning for next seat. And I'm not 920 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: sure if we've discussed it or not on a radio show, 921 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: but dude, you you did sign a high school player 922 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,839 Speaker 1: in the early recruiting period. Cayden Allen, six' five guy 923 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: with guard. Skills tell us a little bit about. 924 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 2: Him he's a terrific. Player he's. 925 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 3: Playing he's playing his senior year at a School Long Island, 926 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,839 Speaker 3: lutheran goes by Lew high In New York, city and 927 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 3: they play on the in The Nike league that's now 928 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 3: This National High School, league high high level. Stuff HE'S 929 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 3: i think they have him ranked as a top fifty. 930 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 2: Player he actually was. 931 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 3: At one point ranked as a top, twenty top ten 932 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,919 Speaker 3: maybe player in his class as a young, player because 933 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 3: he was playing With Cooper flag and a bunch of 934 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,359 Speaker 3: other very well known players on a Mont org team 935 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 3: that won the national championship and went, undefeated and he 936 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 3: was the only underclassman that played a significant role in that. 937 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 3: TEAM i find it, fast and we've recruited him for three. 938 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 3: Years he's such a such a bright young. Man he's 939 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 3: focused his ability to pay attention and focus and articulate 940 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 3: things is beyond his. 941 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 2: Years he's. 942 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 3: SKILLED i think he could play all three positions in the. 943 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 3: Backcourt and this is WHAT i find. AWESOME i don't 944 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 3: care what the heck they rank. Him he'll be one 945 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,439 Speaker 3: of the top twenty players in his. Class and he's 946 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 3: he's should be a junior in high. School AND i 947 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 3: don't think people know. THAT i don't think the people 948 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 3: ranking him know. THAT i don't think other people that 949 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,959 Speaker 3: recruiting him knew, that but we found. OUT i think 950 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,439 Speaker 3: he'll show. 951 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 2: Up he's. 952 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 3: SEVENTEEN i mean like he won't turn. Eighteen he's. Young 953 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 3: he's very very young for a high school, senior and, 954 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 3: again should be in the next. Class if he was 955 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,399 Speaker 3: in the next, class he'd probably ranked in the top, 956 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 3: ten and that's the class he should be. In so 957 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 3: we're really excited about. Him BUT i am so impressed 958 00:43:55,080 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 3: with him his, intelligence his, focus and not just his, 959 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 3: talent which is tremendous as. Well he's going to be 960 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 3: a great. 961 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,879 Speaker 4: Player the president for, that the president for that Was Troy. 962 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,720 Speaker 4: Colepaine he was on campus and didn't turn eighteen Until. 963 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 4: NOVEMBER i believe and he was getting major minutes under. 964 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 3: MCCRONA i remember being at AN aau event In, pittsburgh 965 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 3: of all, places in the spring of his junior. Year 966 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 3: he was playing for a team loaded team out Of, 967 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 3: virginia AND i remember. WATCHING i was looking at some 968 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 3: other guys AND i, said who in the heck is? 969 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 3: That it Was Troy copaine and then he, then you, 970 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 3: KNOW i think he was already. COMMITTED i want to, 971 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 3: say he's going To. Cincinnatis how the heck did they get? 972 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 3: Him you, know he was great And i've gotten to Know. 973 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 2: Troy think a lot of them also a highly intelligent basketball, 974 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 2: player no. 975 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,240 Speaker 1: Doubt all, right we are out of. Time we appreciate 976 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: The bearcat fans were with us here. Tonight we've got 977 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: some stuff to give away momentarily for everybody listening on the, 978 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 1: radio thanks for tuning. In this has been The West 979 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 1: Miller Radio show from the Original Montgomery In home of 980 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: The World's greatest rips one hundred do W L dole