1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: We'll get into the Nuggets improbab will win last night 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: over the seventy six ers. That was wonderful, incredible to 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: watch a single starter out there for the Nuggets on 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: the road in Philadelphia and they won that game at overtime. 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: We'll talk about that here in a little bit. 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: I paid off my bets even though it hasn't officially 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: been a loss yet. But I see the riding on 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: the wall for Oklahoma City. We'll get to that here 9 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: in a second as well. Got a lot of love 10 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: for bo Nicks coming up here at four point thirty. 11 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: We'll explain that, and then Rod Smith in studio after five. 12 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: So all sorts of really cool stuff coming up here 13 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: in just a little bit again. Five six six nine 14 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: zeros are Ka Commons Bird health text line. The conversation 15 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: today has shifted on a dime because of the John 16 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: Harbaugh firing. If you missed it earlier, not only do 17 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: we had Garret Bowles on in the first hour, but 18 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: we reacted to the Baltimore Ravens firing John Harbaugh after 19 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: eighteen seasons with the team. And you got to imagine 20 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: that this is gonna throw a lot of what these 21 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: teams that are searching for their head coaching candidates right 22 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: now into a blender, and we're talking about it a 23 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: little bit off air moments ago about how even a 24 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: team like the Raiders, right, they got the first overall pick. Now, 25 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: we all here in Denver think the Raiders are a 26 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: bit of a dumpster fire. But if you're Tom Brady 27 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: and you've got that carrot oh, the first overall pick, 28 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 1: that might be very enticing to John Harbaugh. 29 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: And so all of a sudden, if you're. 30 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: Thinking about it in terms of Atlanta and Tennessee, I mean, 31 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: Tennessee's got a young quarterback there, right, you think about 32 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: it in terms of obviously the Raiders the Cardinals. Now, 33 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: the Cardinals might be may not be a team that 34 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: he would be very interested in, but with the right 35 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: sell who knows. And the Giants, the Giants are very interesting. 36 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: A lot of talent on both sides of the ball there, 37 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: And if you believe in Jackson Dart, they got them 38 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: Eleak neighbors Camp Scataboo. They've got some talent there. Really, 39 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: Like I said, both sides of the ball. It just 40 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: it just changes the dynamic almost immediately, and it's being 41 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: sort of dubbed the sweepstakes, right, the John Harbaughs Sweepstakes. 42 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: You gotta wonder now, going back to the conversation, and 43 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: Dave's going to react to this yere in just a 44 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: second when he gets in here. But going back to 45 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: the conversation about VJ, Vans Joseph and the options that 46 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: are in front of him. Titans, Cardinals, Raiders, Giants, Falcons. 47 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: Those are the five teams that he set the interview 48 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: with this week. I do like, again, you're glad that 49 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: it's this way because the Broncos are in a bye week, 50 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: that you can do all these interviews this week. 51 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 2: Get it out of the way, scratch that off the list. 52 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: That way, you can focus all your intention on the 53 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: next opponent, which is what the Broncos will do in 54 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: ernest coming up next week. They practice on Friday Saturday, 55 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: and then they'll get back at everything next week and 56 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: their normal practice routine. If I'm VJ the teams, I'm 57 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: seriously considering the Cardinals. He's got a relationship there with Arizona, 58 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: was their defensive coordinator just a couple of years ago. 59 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: I would be in on the Giants and Falcons. 60 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: I have a lot of interest in them because of 61 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: the baseline of talent that they currently have. I know, 62 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: the Falcons not having a first round pick probably factors 63 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: in a little bit to the equation. And you don't 64 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: know who the GM is there yet, right, so there's 65 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: a little bit of an an just unaware of what's 66 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: the future of how that looks. The Giants, on the 67 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: other hand, they of the top five pick, so you'd 68 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: not only come into a situation where you do have 69 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: a talented roster, but you also have a top five 70 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: pick in the process of all that. 71 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: So I think for all. 72 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: These teams, they each have a unique reason why you 73 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: should be bought in. The Raiders are only interesting and 74 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: I hate to even talk about it. Right the best 75 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: Joseph chooses the Raiders, it would be a because you 76 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: get the first overall pick, which again, when he was 77 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: here in Denver as the head coach, he didn't get 78 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: to choose his quarterback. 79 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: It would be I know I didn't I didn't let 80 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: you in. I'm sorry. 81 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 3: As caught on the elevator, now, is the elevator ever 82 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 3: in your lifetime? 83 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: Has the elevator ever stopped? Like I guess in between floors. 84 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: It's kind of one of my nightmares. Honestly, Like, if 85 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: you want to talk about like things that would it's 86 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: the weirdest thing. Cold cold sweats, It's the weirdest. I mean, 87 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: I knew I was going to be able to get 88 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: off the elevator, but damn, I. 89 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 2: Thought you were to come in here. 90 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: Tell me about the people that you saved in the elevator, Like, hey, 91 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: I know there's a crowd of people that. 92 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,559 Speaker 3: I I didn't out my cell phone with me either, 93 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 3: and there's no aren't you supposed to, Millennial Grant have 94 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: a phone in the elevator, in every elevator. 95 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I think that's a safety guideline 96 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: or role. 97 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: Well, there's no are there phones in these elevators? I 98 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: don't think so know, Well, what the actual hell? Why 99 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: don't you get ahold of HR? If you could find it? 100 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 3: So we we Okay, if I said, right now, Grant, 101 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: I love Grant, we need to call HR. 102 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: Would you know where HR is in our company? No? Idea? Okay, 103 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: Texas maybe that was my guest. I think it's San Antonio. Yeah, 104 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: I guess was Texas. I say you got a better 105 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: shout of calling nine one one? Yep? 106 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 3: Can you do you know where Mike Rby is right now? 107 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 3: I mean Mike's are our top engineer. Yes, where's he 108 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: going at four o'clock? He's walking fast though, Mike. If 109 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: you're if you're listening to the show. First of all, 110 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 3: thank you very much. 111 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 112 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: Second of all, feel free to call the hotline and 113 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: we'll talk about the elevators. 114 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: You know the number. Okay, sorry, No, it's good to 115 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 3: see you. Hey, great to see Yes. 116 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 2: Yes, and we didn't send out a certain got it 117 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 2: almost worked up a sweat you. 118 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: By the way, Garrett Bowles was talking a lot of 119 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: nonsense earlier about beating you in basketball. 120 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 3: He's gonna punk. Listen, you can still move. I'm a 121 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 3: little bit older than Garrett. 122 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: You can move. I just saw you, but I could not. 123 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to play one on one because he's 124 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 3: a massively strong human. 125 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: Who gets paid to move other humans. 126 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 3: Yep, I'll just say this. He's not dunking on me. 127 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 3: He can go to the free throw line, but you 128 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: you absolutely will not dunk on me. But but in 129 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 3: a game of horse, I gotta tell you, I like 130 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 3: my chances. 131 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: He wanted all the noise. Yeah, you heard it. 132 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: He was, Oh, yeah, a film it. Yes, we can 133 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: do that. We can get charities involved. 134 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 2: I got something. 135 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 3: Why can I Why am I having a hard time 136 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: picturing Garrett on a step back jumper from seventeen? 137 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: Why do I have a hard time? Here's here's my thing. 138 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 3: Even when I played in the NFL with with my 139 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 3: teammates in Cleveland, most of them, not all of them, 140 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 3: but most of them felt that they were really good 141 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 3: basketball players, and they weren't. 142 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: They just weren't. 143 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 3: You'll have two or three per team that you when 144 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: you see him play, you're like, Okay, that dude, he 145 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: can play, you know. 146 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: And so you of course you you were a three sport. 147 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: I played basketball in college for a three sport athlete, Baseball, basketball, football, golf. 148 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: Sorry for for sport that. 149 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 3: I suck in golf forever, I sucked and I still suck. 150 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 3: So I'm consistent of nothing else. 151 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: But I would say, universally my experience with NFL players, 152 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: they all think they can hope. 153 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: They do, every single one of them. 154 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: You know Gara Bolls, right, can you picture him like 155 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 3: at the top of the key with the rocker step 156 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 3: and then the quick step back and the jumper from 157 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: eighteen swish. 158 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what I'm saying too. So we're gonna 159 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: find out after the season. 160 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 3: Of course, in the off season, I'm not I'm not 161 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: trying to get under weight and say I'm stronger than 162 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: he is. 163 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: So he's a but but I will I'll give him 164 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: this case. You're right, and same with that. But I 165 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: he his footwork right. As a left tackle, you've got 166 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: to have you We're very athletic, that's right. 167 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: But my qualifier is for a tackle, an offensive tackle. 168 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: Now I tell you what else he is too. He's strong. 169 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 3: We really did my eyes out there Friday, getting ready 170 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 3: to do a show out there, and he always comes 171 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 3: over after practice and we chop it up a little bit, and. 172 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: So we were we didn't have a ball, but I 173 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: acted like I had a ball. 174 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 3: We're talking about basketball, and he starts talking and I 175 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: start talking. So he hand checks me a little bit 176 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 3: and I slapped the hand off or whatever, and then 177 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 3: he sticks his right knee literally as as as I'm 178 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: trying to kind of back back him down, sticks his 179 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 3: right knee but between my two cheeks and lifts like 180 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 3: literally lifts me up off the ground. So I'm like Okay, 181 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 3: my days of being able to come up with, you know, 182 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: a way to combat this kind of size and strength 183 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: I think have passed me. 184 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: But he's not going to beat me in a shooting content. 185 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: Not gonna happen. No, not gonna happen. 186 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: In fact, I would say, before we have to break, 187 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: I would say, if anything, you will just make sure 188 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: there's no way like, whatever else you gotta do, you 189 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: step back, shot, whatever you gotta. 190 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 2: Do, you will not dunk on me. This is this 191 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: is what you. 192 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: Playing one on one because I think he he, he 193 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 3: would crush me with athletic ability and size and strength 194 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 3: in one on one. Now, I foul the hell out 195 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: of it, you know, but in one on one you 196 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 3: really don't go to the free throw line. 197 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: No you don't, right, Yeah, it's a self check. That's 198 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: a foul. He gets the ball back at the top 199 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: of the key. So we're just playing horse. 200 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: Okay, I got something on you. 201 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: I mean because you actually you were actually a basketball player, yeah, 202 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: versus every NFL player who thinks they can hoop. 203 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 204 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: Now, you know, maybe maybe athletically, my my best days 205 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: are behind me, but I'm hoping I can still shoot 206 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: a ball. 207 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 2: I think I think you got that one. 208 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: We'll see there is one team in there that called 209 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: that currently has a head coach, just so if we 210 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: were to speculate on that, which is something we get 211 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: a chance to do here I I was talking about that. 212 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: I've got a name that popped into my mind, and 213 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: and what I will do, Ryan, You're gonna tell me 214 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: to make sure I'm going to write it down. 215 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: Okay, let's see if I can get Okay, Okay, So 216 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 2: have you think about it? 217 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 3: So you have to come up with one team that 218 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: you think it's possible that even though they still have 219 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 3: head coach. They reached out to John Harbaugh's agent and 220 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: just said, hey, do you like peanut butter and jelly sandwiches? 221 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 3: And if so, how many times do you eat it 222 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: per week? 223 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: So there's a couple of jobs that popped in my 224 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: mind almost immediately. 225 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So like the Jets and the Dolphins, Ryan, you 226 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: only choice. 227 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: This is a choice for Ryan r one choice. 228 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 3: Yes, stop looking at the standings trying to help help 229 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 3: you decipher as to who you're going to pick. 230 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: You talk football for a living. I'm gonna go. I'm 231 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 2: gonna go with the Jets. That'd be the first, the 232 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 2: first thing that popped in my head. So you hat, 233 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 2: I think that is possible. 234 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: And I can see Woody Johnson just saying, you know what, 235 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: this would solve everything like this is this is the 236 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: solt we don't we we immediately elevate our status. It 237 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: would be hard to argue. Although I'm not sure. Let 238 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: me let me take that back. 239 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: I'm sure that I don't agree with the one and 240 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: done unless things have been so bad in the building 241 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 3: or in the relationship with the coach and the players 242 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: of the GM. And if that's the case, then the 243 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 3: guy who actually stood in front of you and you 244 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 3: are the owner and said I think we should hire 245 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: this guy, I think you also ought to fire him. 246 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 3: I just don't buy and large believe in the one 247 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 3: and done. I mean, you hired a guy, you gave 248 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 3: him a three year deal, and. 249 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 2: Now but we live in a different era, now, I know. 250 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it happens. It happens a lot, doesn't make 251 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: it right. Here's I here's who I put a Dolphins. 252 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: Oh that's a good one too. That's a great one, 253 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: Todd Bowles. That makes a lot of sense. Tampa Bay 254 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: is we've we've heard through bandon otherwise that they've they're 255 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: on the fence about what they're going to do there 256 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay. 257 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 3: Now, listen, Todd Bowles track record in Tampa. They didn't 258 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 3: they didn't win the division this year, but prior to that, 259 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: I think they'd won the division four or five straight times. 260 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 3: So his track record, that would that would make it 261 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 3: I think challenging to move on from him. But again, 262 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 3: I think John Harbaugh is perceived as a guy that 263 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: normally is not going to be available and all of 264 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 3: a sudden is available. So I think owners might look 265 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 3: at that and say, wait, wait, wait, okay, we're I. 266 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 2: Don't care, We're going to do this. 267 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, And they look like they really are positioned, especially 268 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: in that division, how weak and not trying to be 269 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: rude or mean or anything, it's just it's just what 270 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: it is. 271 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 3: That's why I think Atlanta to me is the best 272 00:13:59,520 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: of Vail. 273 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 2: Job open. 274 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you said that yesterday, And listen, I think considering 275 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: the amount of talent they have them, especially in the 276 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: offense side of the ball, and they have to tell 277 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: them the defense, but offensive side of the ball was 278 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: ready to go. Yep. 279 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: So that that's interesting. Yeah for me. 280 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: You know, the Jets got the second overall pick. It's 281 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: i know, historically a very bad organization. But they'd say, 282 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: whatever you want, whatever amount of money you want, just 283 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: tell us we're ready to go. 284 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: Well, and you really, I mean, from John Harbaugh's standpoint, 285 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 3: as we again speculate a bit, if if they made 286 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: that move, and how many games did the Jets win 287 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 3: this year? 288 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: Three? Okay, and they had no interceptions and zero interceptions. 289 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: So if you win seven, if you go seven and 290 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 3: ten next year, you're you're you may unseat. 291 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: Build the statue. Yeah, I mean that's I mean, you may. 292 00:14:55,400 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: You know, he may be in trouble. John Harbaugh writing 293 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: is the mayor of New York. That's some of your 294 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: best work right there. 295 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 3: I mean, if the Jets would win seven games next year, 296 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: whomever the head coach of the Jets is, it is 297 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 3: going to be a really popular figure, even in a communistic, 298 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 3: socialistic sort of area. 299 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: I'm glad you didn't hold back. Well, no, I mean 300 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: it's out there. No, I mean, it is out there. 301 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: It is. I say that I have no opinion on 302 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: this matter. That's not a don't pull me into this thing. 303 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: You're officially, you're officially in there. I mean you could 304 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: have been the campaign manager. 305 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: He does have a very nice period. I just would say, 306 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: that's what I'm telling you to say. All Right, we'll 307 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: come back. Got some love for bone Nicks, dan Orlowski 308 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 2: sounds off. We'll get to that coming up next. Speaking 309 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: of deep holes that I tend to. 310 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: Put myself in, we had a listener reach out via 311 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: Instagram last night and said, now you owe David coffee 312 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: because you lost your bet on the Oklahoma City Thunder. Now, 313 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: for what it's worth, I have not officially lost the 314 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: bet yet, but I mean. 315 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 2: You sort it, but it's gonna I'm gonna sort it. 316 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose because I said a few weeks ago 317 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: that the Oklahoma City Thunder would set the regular season record, 318 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: which was they beat it so seventy three to nine, 319 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: which is what the Golden State Warriors did. 320 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: And I said that the Oklahoma City Thunder are so 321 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: locked in. They started on an unbelievable street. 322 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: They had like two losses through the first quarter of 323 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: the season. I was like, this team will not be denied. 324 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: YEP. 325 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: So you went fanboy a little bit and and now 326 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 3: you've paid for it. And by the way, Ryan did 327 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: pay today at Starbucks coffee. 328 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: I technically still have two losses to go. 329 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: But the listener breached out and said, you really need 330 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: to pay this off because you're gonna lose, And I said, 331 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: you know what, I actually so the. 332 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: Record, the record for the fewest losses in an NBA 333 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 3: season is nine, right, is that? That's golden state of 334 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 3: yes and the thunder I think you have what seven? 335 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: They have seven, so they're gonna Yeah. I selfishly, just. 336 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: For the conversation portion, I really wanted to see if 337 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: I could make you sweat this one in April. Right, 338 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: we get to like April, we're in the final week 339 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: or two of the and it's coming down to the 340 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: wire and maybe they like rest somebody and then I 341 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: lose the better, I mean something fun like that. 342 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: It's January sixth, and this thing. 343 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: It's a no contest. Yeah, I was so disappointed. Yes 344 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: oh gone yesterday. They're like six and six in their 345 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: last twelve. It's it's ton and I acknowledge that. I 346 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: acknowledge that you you you called that, but if and 347 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: I paid it off. By the way, also Grant Smith 348 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: enjoying uh the fruits of my labor with his pink drink. 349 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: Still sipping on that pink drink. How how is the 350 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: pink drink there? Grant? 351 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: Not as good as I hoped. Really, I was just 352 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: hoping Dave was going to make fun of me for 353 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: it in the pink drink, And then I didn't even 354 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 2: get a comment out, Well, you know what, what's in it? 355 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 4: What? 356 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: No idea? Strawberry's coconut milk and some sort of caffeine. 357 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh okay, my two teenage daughters, that's their favorite drink. 358 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 2: There's the look, there's the look. Wow, Okay, all right, Grant, 359 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: I didn't even have to when you said that to me. 360 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't even just what this. I 361 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 2: know exactly what that. 362 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: Drink is, h because I order it all the time 363 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 1: for my two teenage argies. Actually, they've learned to make 364 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: it themselves at home because they're they They looked up 365 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: the recipe and they just make it themselves. 366 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 3: Now, enterprising young women, I know, I know, it's pretty 367 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 3: impressive that the way Jim Harbrother is a report on 368 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 3: ESPN from Adam Schefter. He is expected to be the 369 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 3: favorite for the New York Giants job. 370 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 2: That'd be a great hire. 371 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: And that's the right I mean, listen, we're talking about 372 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: a team with the top five pick. 373 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 2: If you believe they have the quarterback. We talked about 374 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 2: this a bit yesterday. 375 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: If you believe that Jackson Dart, you believe they have 376 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver one neighbors Cam's kataboo guy, and then a 377 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: lot of talent on the defense of the defensive side 378 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: of the ball, A lot of first round picks. Yeah there, 379 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: especially in that front seven. 380 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 2: I mean, it makes such of sense. 381 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: And of course that report's going to come out right now, 382 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 1: right we just said Adam Scheffer said there's seven teams, 383 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: which again there's only six other openings. Seven teams have called. 384 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: You've got to be on the phone now if you 385 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: want to be in the running for John Harbaugh. Is 386 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: this thing could be done by the end of the week, 387 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: Maybe I would maybe maybe, Yeah, the coffee better. 388 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 4: No. 389 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 3: If I had to bet, I would say John Harbaugh 390 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 3: will not be employed by an NFL team before the 391 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 3: end of this week. If I had to bet, you 392 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 3: want to go another coffee on that? I mean, I 393 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 3: don't have I mean, I guess it could happen. 394 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: You don't feel as dug In on it like I am, 395 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,239 Speaker 1: so we'll say no bet for now. But if by 396 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: the end of the show we had another hour and 397 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: twenty minutes, If by the end of the show you're like, 398 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: you know what, Ryan, I will say that I bet something. 399 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 3: Really seriously, the empathetic side of me would like you 400 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 3: to bet something that you feel like you have the 401 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 3: best chance to win at because you haven't won a bet. 402 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 3: Oh and how long? Wow, And it gets to be well, yeah, 403 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 3: you're right, fun well, but the problem. 404 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 2: It better than. 405 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: The problem is is is I do say some things 406 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: that become right, but I don't bet anything on. 407 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: Well, it's just so infrequently done. 408 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: It is so infrequent, yes, and then by the time 409 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: I improve and right in that category, it doesn't even 410 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: matter at that point. 411 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 3: It's so infrequently done. 412 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: Before we hear from Daniel Loski saying a bunch of 413 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: nice things about Bonix, I got to tip the capture 414 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: the Nuggets. 415 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 2: Man, what a win last night. That was unbelievable. 416 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: Even to this moment. I like, rewatched some of the 417 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: highlights this morning, I'm like, how did this happen? 418 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 3: If you're a Sixers fan, seriously, right, and you go 419 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 3: to the game and you realize how many Nuggets players 420 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 3: are not available, including their entire starting five and the 421 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 3: sixth man. 422 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 2: And another rotational guy. 423 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 3: Both centers are out, and the Nuggets find a way 424 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 3: to beat the sixers in field. I just enjoyed, honestly 425 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 3: how hard those guys played. 426 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: Yes, so it feels like and also Nicole Yokic on 427 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: the sideline coaching them. 428 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 2: Up, that was cool. 429 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just I don't know, I guess we throw 430 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,719 Speaker 1: on culture a lot, but that's what it felt like. 431 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,239 Speaker 2: This is kind of a culture win. Like these are 432 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 2: guys that. 433 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: Are G League players, like most of them, right, they're 434 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: guys that are up and down from the G League 435 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: that barely in rotation. When you're missing all five starters, 436 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: that's what you're going to be doing. You're you're rolling 437 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: out guys that barely get playing time. And maybe there's 438 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of acknowledgment that needs to be said 439 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: about the talent of NBA rosters, right because usually there's 440 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: like this, well there's the starters and then a massive 441 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: drop off. But one of the things that they tried 442 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 1: to build this year was depth. And it's it's not 443 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: to say you could go on to run with this 444 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: this group. I do like them, but you couldn't go 445 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: on a run like you're not going to be able 446 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: to like win the next dozen games before. 447 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 3: You don't have a post player. You don't have a 448 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 3: post player backup. So I mean you're you're playing. You know, 449 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 3: at one point last night, uh Embiid Peyton Watson was 450 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 3: trying to cover Embiid so and ignag and and others. 451 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: And they're on Holmes out there six six foot nine 452 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: is your tallest player right now. 453 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just liked I mean, they they gang rebounded that, 454 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 3: they just played hard. I think you can accomplish so 455 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 3: many things now you know you can't. As you said, 456 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 3: there's a big difference between starters and the NBA and 457 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 3: guys that don't start. I mean, the guys that don't 458 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 3: start are really good basketball players. The guys that art 459 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 3: in the NBA are elite players. You can't have your 460 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 3: starting six guys not play and expect to win too 461 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 3: many games. It just doesn't work that way. But that 462 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 3: night last night, they just gave unbelievable effort, and I 463 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 3: mean it goes into overtime, and I'm thinking that's bad 464 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 3: for the Nuggets the thing. And then the Nuggets score 465 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 3: five I think with five points in overtime and win, so. 466 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: Including an interference or a. 467 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 3: Yep, I mean credit credit to the players, credit to 468 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 3: David Adelman and his staff pushed all the right buttons. 469 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: It just was enjoyable. 470 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 3: And I was slipping back and forth between Montana State 471 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 3: and Illinois State that that was a great football game, 472 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 3: National championship game. Both teams had chances to win. Felt 473 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 3: horrible for the Illinois State quarterback who played just played 474 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 3: lights out and the kicking game sabotaged them. 475 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: But that was that was the hell of a game. 476 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: That was incredible. 477 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: What a great night for sports, all right, So I 478 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: want to play this audio of Dan Laski talking about 479 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: bon Nicks now he had tweeted out last night. He 480 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: said b Nix performed like a top five quarterback this 481 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: season if you weigh productivity by situational leverage. He was 482 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: very clutch. So, of course, and I know you'll appreciate this. 483 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: The stat nerds, the pro football focuses of the world, 484 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: and people that you know subscribe a little too much 485 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: to the advanced analytics stuff. He used to sees me 486 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: a lot about which I have come a long way. 487 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: I feel like it should just work. I tell you 488 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: about advanced analytics. Yeah, nice, Grant, that's a great drop. 489 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: So they lost their minds when he tweeted that, but 490 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 1: he decided to put out a video explaining what he meant. 491 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: And here's what he said. 492 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 4: What quarterback in the NFL this year had the best 493 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 4: number one touchdown to interception ratio when his team was trailing, 494 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 4: Or what quarterback this year had the best total QBR 495 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 4: this year when his team was trailing. It wasn't Drake May, 496 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 4: It wasn't Matthew Stafford. It wasn't Sam Donold. It wasn't 497 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes. It wasn't Josh Allen. It wasn't Dak Prescott. 498 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 4: It wasn't Justin Herbert. It wasn't Jared Goff. It was 499 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 4: bow Knicks. 500 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: No, Bo wasn't unbelievable this year. 501 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 4: I've talked about the roller coaster ride that he had, 502 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 4: but seventeen touchdowns to two interceptions when his team was trailing, 503 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 4: when they needed him. 504 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 2: To play his best, he did. When he needed to 505 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,479 Speaker 2: be his best, he was when that team needed him 506 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 2: to make a play, he did it. And will it 507 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 2: bite them in the playoffs. I don't know. The roller 508 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 2: coaster ride, the erratic play, will it bite them. I 509 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: don't know. 510 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 4: Will he make that same throw or clutch run in 511 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 4: the playoffs the way he did in the regular season. 512 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: We will find out. 513 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 4: But this season, when his team needed him to be 514 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 4: his best and be one of the best quarterbacks in football. 515 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: He was. 516 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 4: He was incredibly clutch. Will find out if that continues 517 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 4: in the playoffs. 518 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: I thought that was really great because we were having 519 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: a discussion yesterday. I got some of the national narratives 520 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: on bow Nicks and a lot of people just really 521 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: not believing in the Broncos. They're calling him frauds, right, 522 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: and then your area have Danielofski saying, hey, seventeen touchdowns 523 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: to two interceptions when his team is trailing. 524 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think again. I think there were so many 525 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 3: people that when you look at the NFL draft, I 526 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 3: mean it is a cottage industry in terms of mock drafts, 527 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 3: draft experts, the inside scoop on a certain player or 528 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 3: group of players. 529 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 2: And so what I have found over the. 530 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: Last maybe decade plus is that people. 531 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 3: You come up with a theory on players, why I 532 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 3: believe this player was underdrafted, or why this guy was 533 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 3: taken in the first round and I had a third 534 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 3: round grade on him, because the draft is unpredictable and 535 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 3: it's unscientific. But then I think where people get into 536 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 3: trouble is they as the draft ends, and now that 537 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 3: player plays in the first year and that player plays in. 538 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: The second year. 539 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 3: If you had projected that guy, you didn't like him 540 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 3: in the draft, you didn't think he was a good player, 541 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 3: you thought he was way overdrafted, and you were strong 542 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 3: in those opinions online in writing whatever you're hoping, and 543 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 3: I think this is where guys get into trouble. You're 544 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 3: hoping that that player doesn't play well so that you 545 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 3: then can say in year one, two, three, or later. 546 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 3: I told you, if you go back and look what 547 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 3: I wrote about the twenty twenty four draft, I told 548 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 3: you bo Nick shouldn't have been a first round draft choice. 549 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 3: I had him, you know, in the fourth round. It 550 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 3: instead of just saying, wow, you look at this kid's 551 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 3: numbers the first two years he's he's played pretty damn 552 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 3: well for a young quarterback. So hey, don't try to 553 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 3: justify what you said about somebody in the draft last year. 554 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 3: By just scouring for things that you can grasp onto 555 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 3: and hold on to. 556 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 2: And say, see, I told you, because look at the 557 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 2: entire body's worth of work. 558 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 3: And I think anybody who I mean Lebroncos were ten 559 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 3: and seven last year. 560 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: They're fourteen to three this year. 561 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 3: So he's got twenty four wins in two years in. 562 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: The regular season in counting. Yeah, I mean twenty four 563 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: regular season wins, right, So. 564 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 3: I just say push back and say, you know what, 565 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 3: he's done a really good job. He's made a buttload 566 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 3: of plays, I mean off schedule plays, he's kept drives alive. 567 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 3: Is he a perfect quarterback? He's not, But they don't 568 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 3: have perfect quarterbacks at this level in this league and 569 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 3: they never have. So the end, I think you nailed it. 570 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 2: And a lot of it comes down to what you 571 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: thought of him coming into the draft. 572 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: I mean, are come into the league and for sure 573 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: and then you sort of that's sort of the obnoxious 574 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: point of this because like somebody even asked, like if 575 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: they lose in the first round or well, the division round, 576 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: are they frauds? Then it's like, hey, Detroit lost last 577 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: year in the division round. I didn't think Detroit had 578 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: a fraudulent year. Last year they were a hell of 579 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: a good team. There was the number one seed in 580 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: the NFC. Ye they had to win a game in 581 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: Week eighteen. Where's two fourteen win teams going head to 582 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,239 Speaker 1: head to get that seed. And then they just ran 583 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: into a really hot Washington Commanders team at that time. 584 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 3: And they had a lot of injuries on defense, yes, 585 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 3: and they couldn't stop anybody, and they turned the ball 586 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 3: over several times on offense. 587 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 2: Are we historically calling the frauds? 588 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 3: No, no, no, I think I mean matchups are everything, 589 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: and so as when we had Garrett Bolz on in 590 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 3: the first hour, Garrett said, we have we have the 591 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 3: possibility of playing three teams, right, We'll play either the 592 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 3: Chargers or the Bills, or the team that wins between 593 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 3: Houston and Pittsburgh. You know, if Houston beats Pittsburgh and 594 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 3: it and it's either Houston, l A or Buffalo, that 595 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 3: is going to be a hell of a competitive game. 596 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 3: I mean that, I don't care if the game's played 597 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 3: in Denver, so the advantage goes to the Broncos. But 598 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 3: those three teams, I mean they have strengths, significant strengths, 599 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 3: and I mean it's going to be tough for the 600 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 3: Broncos to win. That said, they play in Denver, and 601 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 3: I think the Broncos can win, but it's not it's 602 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 3: not a you know, it's not a bust of a year. 603 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 3: If they lose in that first round. I don't think 604 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 3: they will, but they're gonna be playing somebody that's damn good. 605 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: In fact, there might even be an underdog to Buffalo. 606 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: Like if we're just thinking about this, like on paper, 607 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess maybe I would. 608 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 2: Say the other two they probably be fair, but it'll 609 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 2: be really close. 610 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 3: I don't know that they'd be favored a huge I 611 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 3: think I think really all three of those games would 612 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 3: be probably a pick or maybe minus one yep, yeah, 613 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 3: maybe Buffalo is minus one or one and a half, 614 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 3: but all three of those games would be very very tight. 615 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: I think pick them basically, pick them games. But I 616 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: like their chances just like you said, because they're at home. 617 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 2: I do too. 618 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: And and those teams are coming in, who knows what 619 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: their injury situation is, how they just came off of 620 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: their game, all of those factors, and there's always the 621 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: rust thing, and we can get into that next week 622 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: and as we're preparing for the game. But I just 623 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: I really push back on that because it does feel 624 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: like there's a lot of those analysts you're talking about 625 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: waiting for them to lose. 626 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 3: I mean, as your question, Houston's won eight games in 627 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 3: a row, that's right, and they are the darlings because 628 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 3: you know, I've heard everybody, Rex Ryan, not everybody, but 629 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 3: a lot of people say they got the best defense. 630 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 3: I mean Rex Ryan said this Houston defense was the 631 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 3: best in the NFL since two thousand and six. 632 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 2: Oh man, Okay, how many years is that? Twenty? Yes? 633 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 3: That said, if Houston goes to Pittsburgh and beats a 634 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 3: team that had to have a missed forty four yard 635 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 3: field goal by an opponent to even get in the playoffs, 636 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 3: If Houston goes and Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers and 637 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 3: they are three point underdogs at home. But if Pittsburgh wins, 638 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 3: it's Houston a fraud team this year. 639 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: I mean, how would you. 640 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 3: Characterize the Houston Texans should they lose in the first 641 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 3: round against the Steelers. 642 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely not a fraud team. See, I wouldn't know. I 643 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 2: wouldn't say so either. 644 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: No, there's only two teams really that I hear this often. 645 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: It's the Patriots and the Broncos, and only because this 646 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: is their first time being this high of a seed 647 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: in quite some time. 648 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 2: And they point to the strength of schedule. We talked 649 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 2: about that yesterday. 650 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: They point to the strengths and the wins that they 651 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: have and the fact that those are one and two 652 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: Patriots and then Broncos. Of beating up on teams, that's 653 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: what people view it as that were struggling this year 654 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: or losing or starting backup quarterbacks. You can't do anything 655 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: about that. No, you're just beating the teams on your schedule. 656 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: But that's what people point to. It's actually kind of 657 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: remarkable because and I saw this earlier, the top two 658 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: seeds of both conferences, those quarterbacks have never won a 659 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: playoff game. You got Drake May and you got bo Nix, right, 660 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: neither one. I mean, this is Drake May's first opportunity 661 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: in the postseason. And then on the NFC side, Sam 662 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: Darnold and then the Chicago Bears Williams in his first time. 663 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: ESPN had this me pull us up really quick first 664 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: time since seeding began in nineteen seventy five. 665 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 3: How about this if Caleb Williams loses at home this 666 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 3: weekend to the Green Bay Packers are the bears of fraud. 667 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: I don't think so. No, Some people they are a 668 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: year early because they have a new coaching staff. 669 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think you can make the case 670 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 3: that the Broncos are a year early too too. I mean, 671 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 3: I honestly I do. Doesn't mean I don't think they 672 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 3: can win, because I do think they can win. But 673 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 3: this this thing, this year, to me, I got to 674 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 3: be honest about it a year earlier than I thought 675 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 3: it would happen. I mean, I got into a discussion 676 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 3: with a caller like off the air that thought when 677 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 3: I said, hey, I think I think this is a 678 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 3: playoff team. I think they win eleven games and you know, 679 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 3: find a way to win a playoff game. In this 680 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 3: caller and he turned out to be right, said I 681 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 3: think they're going to the super Bowl. I said, I 682 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 3: you know that that's probably a little bit more than 683 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 3: I see for this team. 684 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 2: But here we are. 685 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: I mean again, I would suggest if you're a Broncos fan, 686 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: just push back, enjoy it. Fourteen wins out of seventeen games, 687 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: Just think about where you've been since twenty fifteen, and 688 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 1: then roll the dice and come out and get loud 689 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: and empower field at mile high and play your butts 690 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: off and see what happens. 691 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 2: It might just be one of those years, folks. It 692 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: might just be