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Speaker 1: To Noon.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff.

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Speaker 3: Just listen, we go pop.

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Speaker 4: Fox, Randal on the attack, setting up like Daniels again.

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Speaker 1: He is hamming it. Here is the opening corner and

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Speaker 1: that's fourteen. Here are the first on per.

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Speaker 5: Sect five of five shooting four for distance.

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Speaker 1: Talked about who needs to step up? James taking it

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Speaker 1: to heart. Good, good morning, Welcome to nine to Noon.

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Speaker 6: Minnesota went at one in one last night in basketball

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Speaker 6: versus the state of Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: You just heard Alan Horton on the.

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Speaker 6: Call with the Timberwolves absolutely smashing the.

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee Bucks and your faith Milwaukee.

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Speaker 6: Sadly, the Golden Gophers lost a spine tangler to the

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Speaker 6: Badgers right at the wire on a game winning three.

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Speaker 6: We begin with the pros and joining us now after

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Speaker 6: a thirty three point victory of Milwaukee is head coach

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Speaker 6: Chris Finch thanks to second Harvest Heartland and two Harvest

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Speaker 6: dot Org, along with prize picks Chris Paul Allen. First

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Speaker 6: and foremost, how are you feeling you missed the San

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Speaker 6: Antonio game?

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm feeling much better, starting to feel more like myself.

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Speaker 2: So I appreciate you checking in so and how.

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Speaker 6: Much did it eat at you not being able to

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Speaker 6: coach a game like you're not feeling well for whatever

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Speaker 6: the reason, you're thinking about it. You're talking to Mike

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Speaker 6: and Norri and the staff about it, maybe the players,

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Speaker 6: but then all of a sudden You're like, damn, man,

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Speaker 6: I just can't do this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, did that eat at you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? It was. It was tough. I mean, the first

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Speaker 2: time I've ever missed a game, uh for illness as

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Speaker 2: a player or a coach. I had one kind of

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Speaker 2: actually had it happen and has had something happened in

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Speaker 2: Cleveland a couple of years ago prior to a game.

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Speaker 2: But I've never had never been laid low into flu

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Speaker 2: like this before so in my entire life. So it

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Speaker 2: was difficult. You know, It's kind of a weird one

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Speaker 2: because you're thinking, well, I should you know.

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Speaker 7: I can.

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Speaker 2: I think I can get through it. I could. By

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Speaker 2: the time the afternoon rolled around, I could barely get

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Speaker 2: just you know, out changers and they want to get

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Speaker 2: the rest of the team sick and all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: I have complete faith in our team and our players

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Speaker 2: and our coaches to be able to go out and

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Speaker 2: win a game without me, So I wasn't worried about that.

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Speaker 2: It's just a kind of odd feeling then to sit

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Speaker 2: at home and watch your team on TV.

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Speaker 6: It was that Philadelphia Eagles playoff loss, wasn't it.

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Speaker 1: I always loved that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was pretty brutal too, But thankfully our guys

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Speaker 6: Yeah, last night provided so many talkers of my estimation.

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Speaker 6: But just back to that San Antonio game. Then, good

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Speaker 6: job by Mike and Nori and the gang to be

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Speaker 2: You know, honestly, I just stay mostly away. I just

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Speaker 2: feel like in those situations now. You know, we talked

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Speaker 2: And then we spoke in the afternoon. You know, at halftime,

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Speaker 2: just feel like in those situations, like Micah is or

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Speaker 2: the game I would do it. They have to They

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Speaker 2: have to do it the way that they would do it,

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Speaker 2: because you know basketball, you're like making a thousand decisions

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Speaker 2: So you know, Mike is a head coach in this league.

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Speaker 2: He's built for it. He's filled in on different situations.

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Speaker 2: He's always done an amazing job. The staffs have always

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Speaker 6: Last night, no Edwards, no Rooty, no problem.

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Speaker 1: In your face, no Lackey.

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Speaker 6: You jumped them by eighteen in the first quarter and

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Speaker 6: almost scored eighty by the half. Have you have you

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Speaker 6: ever had a game where so many guys were able

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Speaker 1: That was just amazing.

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Speaker 2: Well, we brought incredible pace to the game. You know,

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Speaker 2: We played with great pace. We got up and down

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Speaker 2: And when when you're moving the ball like that and

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Speaker 2: And we made the extra pass and there was not

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Speaker 6: Well McDaniels and Clark too, and more on that in

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Speaker 6: a minute. But the nineteen year old Joan Baron Jay

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Speaker 6: gave you thirty minutes last night. You played him eleven

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Speaker 1: That Uh, that kid excited you last night, didn't he?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Heck yeah, yeah, he's excited. You know since we

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Speaker 2: him coming back. When he came back was just, you know,

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Speaker 2: last night. You know, someone playing with that much excitement

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Speaker 2: And I always say this as a Dun player, like

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Speaker 2: he just looks more sure of himself, where he should be,

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Speaker 2: how he should do it, how he should have exerted energy.

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Speaker 2: You can see it right away. Even in like four

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Speaker 2: he was outstanding. And when you see that as a coach,

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Speaker 6: Baron Jay turns twenty in November. Holy cow, what was

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Speaker 6: was off what you just said, Chris? What was last

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Speaker 6: Rudy's suspension or did he give you something to at

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's definitely given us something to ponder, and it's

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Speaker 2: the things that we've been pondering anyway. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's gonna We're gonna insert him into

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Speaker 2: we we're gonna definitely look at things. You know, we've

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Speaker 2: the table right now, Pa. So it's it's a long season.

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Speaker 2: Teams take injuries, they do a lot of things. But

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Speaker 6: mid eighties Houston Rockets, Ralph Sampson, a team Olajuan and

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Speaker 6: Baron Jay and account And I was read at the

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Speaker 6: Jaden McDaniels offensively started five to five. Now, his defense

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Speaker 6: was excellent as you were running away from them, and

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Speaker 6: I particularly liked that sequence where you waved McDaniels to

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Speaker 1: And now Jalen Clark is on Giannis. He bodied up

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Speaker 6: Jannis pushed off for his fourth foul, clearly frustrated at

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Speaker 6: the tenacity that he was facing. I mean, that's like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that sequence reminded me a little bit

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Speaker 6: Last one here, coach, and I didn't break down the

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Speaker 1: Houston. Man.

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Speaker 6: It's almost seventy and sunny in Houston, so enjoy the

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Speaker 2: It's kind of kind of crazy. Halfway during the season.

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Speaker 1: Away to Miles Bright and uh.

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Speaker 6: The only anger I sensed from the head coach yesterday

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Speaker 9: Went till you congratulations on your success show man. You

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you bikes Bites.

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Speaker 7: Enjoyed press conference yesterday while I was dealing with your

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Speaker 7: infection terrorism with the Babe, so I was listening to

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Speaker 7: Quaysy and Ko, some audio stood out to me. I

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Speaker 7: don't know at the conclusion of it, how much time

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Speaker 7: was left nine to noon, how much deep digging and

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Speaker 7: reflection was done a post presser, but some things stood

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Speaker 7: out to me, and I'd like to like to chop

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Speaker 7: it up with you, starting with quasi Adelpha mensa when asked, Hey,

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Speaker 7: is JJ's QB one point twenty six.

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Speaker 10: You know, I want the Vikings to achieve our goals,

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Speaker 10: and I think one of those goals is to make

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Speaker 10: playoff runs and different things like that. I think he

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Speaker 10: is the character and ability to be the person to

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Speaker 10: do that for our organization. If I say that in

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Speaker 10: twenty twenty six, that kind of binds us into a certain,

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Speaker 10: you know area. The way we set this team up,

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Speaker 10: we built this court really like we've always talked about,

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Speaker 10: give ourselves multiple shots at it, because you never know

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Speaker 10: when there's going to be a year where the field

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Speaker 10: field's a little bit wide open and you can make

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Speaker 10: that run. And so that's what we're really focused on

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Speaker 10: talking about. Whether it's this year or next year isn't

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Speaker 10: really my immediate reflection. It's my job to really bring

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Speaker 10: that deep competitive room that we've talked about to the biking.

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Speaker 7: You can tell me if I'm wrong here, pa, typically

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Speaker 7: And we get the chance week to week to chat

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Speaker 7: with Kevin O'Connell throughout the season and love the access,

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Speaker 7: love those conversations we read through tea leaves, and again

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Speaker 7: we've joked kind of the longer you listen to Ko,

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Speaker 7: the more that those tea leaves kind of manifest into

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Speaker 7: what you're trying to find out.

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Speaker 1: I thought of the two yesterday, PA.

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Speaker 7: I thought Kracy was as illuminating as I've heard him

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Speaker 7: talking in relation to various topics on the Vikings, including

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Speaker 7: that where I think you listen to that forty second

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Speaker 7: clip and yes, you know don't want to get you

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Speaker 7: know pigeonholed here in twenty twenty six, and we want

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Speaker 7: to put the best team on the field. I think

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Speaker 7: the answer is simply enough. It will be a competition

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Speaker 7: in twenty twenty six. That twenty twenty five was not

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Speaker 7: good enough, and that's bringing potentially a new face into

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Speaker 7: the mix, easing the level of the qb room. We've

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Speaker 7: talked about that together nine to noon, and I think

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Speaker 7: that's effectively what the general manager said when he answered

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Speaker 7: that question.

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Speaker 6: I agree, Now I like Wycy. I didn't necessarily like

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Speaker 6: that answer, and that's just my personal taste. And Alec

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Speaker 6: Lewis whispered a question to him where I love how

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Speaker 6: Alec phrased him. He phrased it up, do you want

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Speaker 6: JJ McCarthy to be your starting quarterback next year? Not

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Speaker 6: analyze the chances? Do you want? And you if you

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Speaker 6: watch the reaction of course listening to it, but watching it,

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Speaker 6: I thought it was polarizing the expression on Quaycy's face.

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Speaker 6: So it's there were multiple times where it was said

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Speaker 6: the quarterback room will be fortified, there will be competition

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Speaker 6: into twenty twenty six off what you just played about

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Speaker 6: paraphrasing quote, it's not my job to like look at

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Speaker 6: this and then look at that instead getting things square

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Speaker 6: away for the totality of the team. I agree with that,

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Speaker 6: but it is the job of a general manager to

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Speaker 6: absolutely tear apart twenty twenty five and what you didn't

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Speaker 6: like fourtify what you did like. And when you draft

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Speaker 6: a quarterback where you drafted JJ McCarthy and you get

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Speaker 6: ten starts out of him, there's an opportunity to say, yeah,

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Speaker 6: he is the starting quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings until

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Speaker 6: he gets beaten out of the job. But if you

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Speaker 6: say that, it's going to blow up nationally. And then

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Speaker 6: if you're interested in the Marcus Mariotas of the world

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Speaker 6: to come in and compete with him, well, they're not

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Speaker 6: going to want to come here because they think it's

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Speaker 6: a fixed race. So I felt it was It was honest,

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Speaker 6: it was straightforward, which was terrific, But I still left

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Speaker 6: it wanting more, wondering what the offseason looks like with

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Speaker 6: that quarterback room.

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Speaker 7: Two more audio clips in relation to the QB situation

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Speaker 7: in the QB room, both from Quacy. The first one ed,

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Speaker 7: any look back you may genteering apart to twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 7: looking back to any chance we read JJ McCarthy's readiness

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Speaker 7: or what that floor would look like, did we potentially

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Speaker 7: make a mistake and that evaluation to push forward with him.

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Speaker 10: The information we had was all good, but it was admittedly,

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Speaker 10: you know, incomplete and small sample. So ultimately we trusted

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Speaker 10: in the information we had, We trusted our coaches, we

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Speaker 10: trusted the team around him to do that. And so

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Speaker 10: it's hard to really when you think about that and

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Speaker 10: then go look at the back at the season as

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Speaker 10: I talked about, you saw the improvement at the end,

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Speaker 10: You saw the flashes of the player we thought he

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Speaker 10: could be. So in that sense, you know, I can't

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Speaker 10: say that we're over confident. Maybe the timing didn't work

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Speaker 10: out with other aspects of our team, would that be

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Speaker 10: injuries or different things like that, But you know, ultimately

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Speaker 10: we're comfortable with where we are. We're excited about where

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Speaker 10: you can go.

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, based on you're probably not comfortable with

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Speaker 7: the nine and eight and missing the playoffs and the

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Speaker 7: QB room as it exists now, But I get the

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Speaker 7: sentiment kind of sidestepping that a bit, but I thought

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Speaker 7: this kind of in combination with that, the word overc confidence.

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Speaker 7: He was asked, maybe if if they handled the Daniel

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Speaker 7: Jones salary situation and their efforts to bring back Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 7: any chance they were lowball.

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Speaker 10: I don't want to say overconfidence, but I do think

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Speaker 10: him being here was something that we, you know, we

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Speaker 10: kind of considered and thought would would impact his decision.

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Speaker 10: But ultimately, there are free agents, and to your point

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Speaker 10: of learning lessons, I think, execution wise, you have to

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Speaker 10: treat it as such, no matter what the conversation is

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Speaker 10: or relationships are. The you know, for agents are free

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Speaker 10: for a reason, and they're allowed to vet all their options,

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Speaker 10: and ultimately we could have executed better around that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so you mentioned it after that that first audio

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Speaker 7: bit I played PA listening to those two Yes, uh,

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Speaker 7: limited information, small sample size on the QB that was mentioned,

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Speaker 7: and then that was twenty three seconds there on the

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Speaker 7: Daniel Jones talker. Yeah, if we could go back in

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Speaker 7: time and change that, we absolutely would. That's what That's

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Speaker 7: what I that's what I gathered from that mentally is

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Speaker 7: you know, whatever the number was, we heard it reported

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Speaker 7: that it was five hundred thousand or a million more

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Speaker 7: than Indianapolis and in the and he chose Indy because

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Speaker 7: of the open quarterback opportunity available to him.

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Speaker 1: But I felt, you know, and.

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Speaker 7: This is part of tearing that down, as you mentioned

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Speaker 7: hindsight looking back. Yeah, man, we really needed Daniel Jones

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Speaker 7: in this quarterback room, and we may have fumbled that

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Speaker 7: opportunity in the process.

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Speaker 6: I fully believe they got caught off guard. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I think you know when they when they secured Jones

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Speaker 6: from the Giants, it legitimately was like getting an animal

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Speaker 6: who had been battered in a certain household, get him

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Speaker 6: out of that household, get him into the right situation,

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Speaker 6: and just let let them just let Daniel Jones be

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Speaker 6: a person, be a football player, not have any pressure

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Speaker 6: on him. Yeah, and then we're gonna in the off

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Speaker 6: season assumably have a competition for the starting quarterback spot.

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Speaker 6: Maybe that wasn't properly conveyed to Daniel Jones. That could

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Speaker 6: have been a competition. He's reading the proverbial tea leaves.

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Speaker 6: You love this kid, and you're going to go all

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Speaker 6: in on this kid. So therefore I'm going to go

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Speaker 6: take Anthony Richardson's money. Yeah, I think it's easier to

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Speaker 6: take that money there than it is this money here.

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Speaker 6: So I'm not mad at Daniel at all. But that

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Speaker 6: was a precarious situation that definitely played into the twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty five for the Minnesota Vikings, a team that's not

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Speaker 6: in the postseason. The teams that head into the Elite

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Speaker 6: eight of the NFL will be discussed plus much more

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Speaker 6: with Mike Floria from Profootballtalk dot com. That's around the

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Speaker 6: Corner on KFAM Mike Florio, Pro Footballtalk dot Com, NBC's

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Speaker 6: Football Night in America. An author of a book called

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Speaker 6: Big Shield, he joins us, now, Mike, are you working

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Speaker 6: on a new book or books after Big Shield?

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Speaker 1: And good morning?

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Speaker 11: Well, good morning Paul. It's great to talk to you,

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Speaker 11: as always is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I have finished the first draft of a manuscript that

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Speaker 11: is a legal thriller involving sports figures. And once I

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Speaker 11: finish the first draft, what happens is I go back

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Speaker 11: and I start to redo it, and I quickly realize

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Speaker 11: how bad it is, to the point where I ask myself,

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Speaker 11: number one, who wrote this crap? And number two, why

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Speaker 11: am I wasting my time doing this. So the challenge

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Speaker 11: is to take that first cut and rework it, reshape it,

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Speaker 11: improve it. Once the story's out and on paper, once

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Speaker 11: the ups and downs, the twists and turns and all

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Speaker 11: the other stuff are locked in, then it's all about

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Speaker 11: going back and just making it better. And that process

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Speaker 11: starts now. We'll see what happens with it. We'll see

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Speaker 11: when we get it done. This isn't exactly a slow time,

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Speaker 11: but I'm finding whatever time I can to try to

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Speaker 11: push that one to the finish line, and then onto

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Speaker 11: the next one, and then onto the next one, and

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Speaker 11: then onto the next one.

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Speaker 6: Terrific, My brother, Can we book Can we book it?

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Speaker 6: The La Rams, with that cunning and guile and ringcred

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Speaker 6: roll into Chicago and beat the Bears.

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Speaker 11: I don't know that it's going to be that simple.

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Speaker 11: The Bears have found something, something that if you could

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Speaker 11: bottle it and sell it, you'd make a hell of

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Speaker 11: a lot of money. They've convinced themselves that no game

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Speaker 11: is over. Ben Jonson explained after the win over the

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Speaker 11: Packers on Saturday night that before the season started, back

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Speaker 11: during training camp, he showed the players Super Bowl fifty

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Speaker 11: one that twenty eight to three turnaround by the Patriots.

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Speaker 11: And oh, by the way, the Bears have a player

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Speaker 11: from each of those two teams on their current roster,

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Speaker 11: Gritty Jerff from the Falcons and Joe Toney from the Patriots,

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Speaker 11: so they were able to chime in on how it

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Speaker 11: happened and how it can happen. And he has gotten

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Speaker 11: them to believe that when you fall behind, it's not

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Speaker 11: a bad thing necessarily, it's an opportunity to create something

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Speaker 11: memorable and to do something things special. And I'm a

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Speaker 11: big proponent of watching the demeanor, especially if quarterbacks during games,

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Speaker 11: because I think the players feed off of it, and

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Speaker 11: the cameras are always on the quarterbacks. And Caleb Williams

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Speaker 11: when things aren't going well early in a game, he

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Speaker 11: doesn't have great demeanor, but man, he finds a way

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Speaker 11: to turn that vibe of it's just not our day

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Speaker 11: into it is our day, and it's going to be

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Speaker 11: our day and I'm going to do whatever I have

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Speaker 11: to do. And that throw he made on fourth and eight,

656
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 11: Are you kidding? That's one of the best throw I

657
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 11: think history. Like, once we get through the current playoff field,

658
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 11: and a lot of it depends on how far the

659
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 11: Bears get. The farther they get, the more significant that

660
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 11: throw becomes to overall pantheon if great postseason throws, but

661
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 11: I don't think it's been appreciated to the point that

662
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 11: it needs to be. And I think as time passes,

663
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Speaker 11: especially if the Bears make it another level or two

664
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Speaker 11: beyond where they currently are, it ends up being remembered

665
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 11: as one of the great postseason throws that the NFL

666
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 11: has ever produced. And if Caleb Williams can keep doing

667
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 11: that kind of stuff. I'm not ready to say, even

668
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 11: though the Rams are favored by three and a half,

669
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Speaker 11: that they go in there and win. We'll make our

670
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 11: picks tomorrow. But you know it's going to be cold,

671
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 11: and I know that won't affect Matthew Stafford, but he's

672
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 11: just one of forty seven that are going to be

673
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 11: in uniform. It may affect some of the other guys.

674
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 11: And the Bears just have something right now. I can't

675
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 11: wait to be at Soldier Field. It sounds like that

676
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 11: place was rocking the other night, unlike it ever did

677
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Speaker 11: during the thirty one prior times Al Michael's had been

678
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 11: there to do a game. So they got something special.

679
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 11: And I know that hurts for the Vikings, the Lions,

680
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 11: and the Packers right now, especially the Packers. But man,

681
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 11: it's rare for Chicago. It's so unlike the way they

682
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 11: did it forty years ago. And Rams Bears first playoff

683
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 11: game between those two teams since the nineteen eighty five

684
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 11: NFC Championship.

685
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Speaker 1: And do you remember who the quarterback for the La

686
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: Rams was.

687
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Speaker 11: That day, dead or Brock?

688
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: Deeter Brock. What a great pull by you.

689
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Speaker 6: And see I lived in southern California at that time,

690
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 6: and thus I'm watching the Rams games and everything against

691
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 6: that eighty five Bears defense. Deeter Brock an excellent, excellent

692
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 6: call by you. Hey, let me get this out of

693
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 6: the way quickly. And it's you know, it's a big

694
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 6: question because we don't know how the inner workings of

695
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 6: the Green Bay Packers go. But like, if you ran

696
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 6: the Packers, would you extend to LA floor.

697
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 11: Well, first of all, if I ran the Packers, they

698
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 11: would be selling shares of that team faster than they

699
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 11: were selling frozen concentrated orange juice futures at the end

700
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 11: of trading places. So anyone that holds paper in the

701
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 11: Packers should be very happy. I'm not calling this shot.

702
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 11: Here's what I'll say. I'd be inclined to keep the floor,

703
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 11: but I would also recognize the gravity of the moment.

704
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 11: My first big decision within a year of the job.

705
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 11: What am I going to do here? And this one

706
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 11: is weird to me? And all due respect to Aaron

707
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 11: Rodgers and his rant the other night about the media's

708
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 11: role in coaches being on the hot seat, Look, we

709
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 11: don't make the decisions. The owners do. And if the

710
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 11: owners are so wishy washed it, they're going to listen

711
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 11: to idiots like us when they make their decisions. They

712
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 11: got far bigger problems than whether or not they should

713
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 11: keep their coach. All the Packers have to do, and

714
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 11: it would take five minutes send out a press release,

715
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 11: post a tweet, Matt Lafleur will be our coach in

716
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 11: twenty twenty six. Have they done that yet? No, All

717
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 11: they've done is leaked that they're going to negotiate an

718
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 11: extension or attempt to negotiate an extension with Matt Lafleur. Well,

719
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 11: if they play hardball with Lafloor, and they can, they

720
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 11: got him in a position of weakness coming off of

721
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 11: that debacle On Saturday Night, Andy said after the game

722
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 11: in on Sunday, how important it is for him to stay.

723
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 11: They can present him an offer that saves them corporate dollars,

724
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 11: because you got a lot different juice when you've just

725
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 11: gotten to the super Bowl and you've got a year

726
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 11: left on your contract, and when you've gone one and

727
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 11: done in a game that you had it in your

728
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 11: grass twenty one to three at halftime. So this one's

729
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 11: fascinating to me and Paul, I'm thinking that in a

730
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 11: roundabout way, the longer this lingers, and I think it's

731
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 11: seen interest on both sides to get this done asap.

732
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 11: The longer this lingers, I wonder whether the Packers are

733
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 11: hoping that someone will call them regarding And it's not

734
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 11: a classic trade because the coach is part of this process,

735
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 11: and the coach can shut it down whenever he wants.

736
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 11: He can just say I don't want to talk to

737
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 11: a new team, but one of these other teams, and

738
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 11: there's now nine total vacancies, one of these teams could

739
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 11: call up and have the hypothetical conversation with the Packers

740
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 11: about what it would take to hire Matt Lafleur away.

741
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 11: And the longer this lasts, the more suspicious. I'll become

742
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 11: that the Packers are hoping someone will do that to

743
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 11: solve their problem. We don't have to fire him, we

744
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 11: don't have to extend him, and we pick up whatever

745
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 11: the draft pickcompsation would be, and both sides move on.

746
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: That's a unique take.

747
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 6: I like that by Florio Pro Football Talk dot Com

748
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 6: NBC's Football Night in America.

749
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Speaker 1: You have you been to Soldier Field before.

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Speaker 11: We were there for the first game of the twenty

751
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Speaker 11: What season was it was it twenty nineteen, whatever the

752
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 11: hundred season was. Remember that was the one year they

753
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 11: didn't do the traditional Super Bowl champion plays in the game.

754
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 11: They gave Packers Bears that first game because it was

755
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 11: season one hundred.

756
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 2: We were there.

757
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Speaker 11: It was the first time I'd been to Chicago, and

758
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 11: I know that vikis fans don't want to hear this,

759
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 11: but Chicago is awesome. Chicago feels like New York and

760
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 11: Pittsburgh had a child. They loved football. It's amazing how

761
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 11: they support that team. They played day after Christmas last

762
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 11: year against the Seahawks and they were out of it. It

763
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 11: was done, it was over. They were down to their

764
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 11: interim coach and the place was full, and it wasn't,

765
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 11: you know, unseasonably warm, it was cold, it was wet,

766
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 11: and they filled that place up. So Chicago is an

767
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 11: awesome Midwestern football town and it's amazing how they've had

768
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 11: to struggle through, you know, they had to. Hey, they

769
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 11: had that moment in eighty five. It's amazing it didn't

770
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 11: morph into a dynasty. They were good enough that they

771
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 11: should have won multiple Super Bowls. And then they've just

772
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 11: kind of been there ever since, like they were before

773
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 11: when I first discovered football in the early seventies, the

774
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 11: Bears were just kind of there, like the Lions. They

775
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 11: were just kind of there. And it's been a long

776
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 11: time coming. And it's always been driven by defense, and

777
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 11: now it's driven by offense. And they've got the foundation

778
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 11: in place to be in games like this for many

779
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 11: years to come. Which you know, it feels like when

780
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 11: the Packers finally figured it out in the late eighties

781
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 11: and into the early nineties. It feels like that's what's

782
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 11: going on in Chicago.

783
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 6: Excellent run for Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh despite the fire

784
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 6: Tomlin chance. Monday Night Now, Mike Florio posted a story

785
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 6: at Pro football Talk dot Com about forty five to

786
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 6: fifty minutes ago about Tomlin and TV work that's on

787
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 6: the horizon. You think Mike Tomlin should be calling games

788
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 6: or analyzing games, not doing studio work, right.

789
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 11: I think you'd be wasted in a studio and look

790
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 11: generally speaking, and I say this acknowledging that I'm part

791
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 11: of a pregame show. The nighttime pregame show is very

792
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 11: different from the morning pregame shows. They are so less

793
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 11: impactful and relevant than they were when the NFL Today

794
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 11: first landed on CBS fifty years ago, because you had

795
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 11: no way, as a practical matter, to get up the

796
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 11: speed on all the teams. I grew up sixty miles

797
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 11: from Pittsburgh. The newspaper had Steelers stories for the most part.

798
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 11: You turn on the local news, they get to the sports.

799
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 11: At the end, it's about the Steelers. You really couldn't

800
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 11: get the table set until you tuned into the NFL Today.

801
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 11: Now you can get whatever information you want. So I

802
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 11: don't know that Mike Tomlin sitting at a desk at Fox, CBS,

803
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 11: NFL Network, ESPN, I don't know that that takes full

804
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 11: advantage of what he brings to the table. I want

805
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 11: him in a booth. I want to hear the tomlinisms

806
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 11: uttered in twenty second soundbites between plays. I think that passion,

807
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 11: that ability to and I think some of his catchphrases

808
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 11: he comes up with on the fly. I think he

809
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 11: would be awesome. I think it would be a revelation.

810
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 11: It would be akin to the same oh my God

811
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 11: that occasion John Madden doing games and Tony Romo early

812
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 11: Tony Romo. And it's funny because current Tony Romo isn't

813
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 11: all that appreciably different from early Tony Romo. But the

814
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 11: people that loved him when he first showed up because

815
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 11: he was so different than what we had seen, those

816
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 11: same people are like, let's get rid of this guy.

817
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 11: And I'm not saying that CBS should fire Tony Romo

818
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 11: and hire Mike Tomlin. The reality is there aren't many

819
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 11: seats out there, and if Tomlin wants to do games

820
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 11: like he's not going to be on the Fox number

821
00:43:53,640 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 11: five team doing Titans cults in week thirteen, he deserves

822
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 11: to be and needs to be in a prime spot.

823
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 6: So with John Harbaugh Mike are all the teams awaiting

824
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 6: a Harbaugh decision before making coaching moves and is it

825
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 6: astonishing to you in any way? John Harbaugh is on

826
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 6: the market.

827
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 11: Well, you've got teams that are going to be spinning

828
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 11: a bunch of different plates. They're doing their interviews, they're

829
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 11: collecting their information. Harbaugh is the first big domino and

830
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 11: he's got, as one owner told me over the weekend,

831
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 11: more leveraging than any coaches had in decades. And he does,

832
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 11: he shows up, he gets fired, so he's free and clear.

833
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 11: There's no compensation to be had for the Baltimore Ravens

834
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,720
Speaker 11: and he can go wherever he wants. And it reminds

835
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 11: me of the Deshaun Watson trade four years ago, where

836
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 11: the Texans set it up and Watson's agent set it

837
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 11: up as a four team competition brown Saints, Panthers, Falcons,

838
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 11: and it created this sense of competition, Who's going to

839
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 11: get Deshaun Watson. The Browns are the first ones to

840
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 11: be told no, and what do they do. They turned

841
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 11: around and they came up with a five year, two

842
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 11: hundred and thirty million doll or fully guaranteed offer and

843
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 11: they won the Deshaun Watson sweepstakes. Not that it turned

844
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 11: out well for the Browns, but my point is, as

845
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 11: it's all seemingly directed toward the Giants, and there's a

846
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 11: lot of steam that the Giants is where he's gonna land.

847
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 11: All it takes is one of these other owners to say,

848
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 11: screw this, I want this guy. I'll pay this guy.

849
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 11: I got the money. It's all right off. It's a

850
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 11: business expense. I got plenty of other money. I got billions,

851
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 11: I got a three hundred foot shot, like, I can

852
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 11: do this if I want to do it. Some of

853
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 11: my peers may be upset with me if I blow

854
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 11: the curve, but I want him. He's got that power,

855
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 11: he's got that cachet. It doesn't surprise me that he's available,

856
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 11: because it felt like it had run its course in Baltimore.

857
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 11: But he's gonna be able to pick wherever he wants

858
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 11: to go. And as it relates to Tom and you know,

859
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 11: even if he wants to go to TV, one of

860
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 11: these other teams may say, you know what, we're gonna

861
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 11: call him. We're gonna make him an offer that maybe

862
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 11: he won't refuse, right and maybe he will think twice.

863
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 11: They still have to compensate the Steelers on the back end.

864
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 11: But I think that that is a possibility with so

865
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 11: many of these jobs available. When you think of it

866
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 11: this way, there are thirty two teams in the NFL,

867
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 11: twenty three of them currently have head coaches. That's the

868
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 11: turnover this year, and those teams out there, they don't

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Speaker 11: want to be in a position to look for a

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Speaker 11: coach next year. And if Tomlin's going to be available

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Speaker 11: next year, well our job is going to be full.

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Speaker 11: Let's go try to get him now. So I think

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Speaker 11: that's another thing to watch the news that inevitably will

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Speaker 11: come out that some of these teams are trying to

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Speaker 11: convince Tomlin to go coach them, understanding that they'd have

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Speaker 11: to also do a deal with the Steelers.

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Speaker 6: And you know, Brian Flores used to coach with Mike

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Speaker 6: Tomlin just a few years ago. What do you think

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Speaker 6: of the way Brian Flores is handling business? I mean,

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Speaker 6: reports are well he completed his interview his head coaching,

881
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Speaker 6: an interview with the Ravens and also reportedly is sniffing

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Speaker 6: around the commanders for a vacant defensive coordinator job.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about all this?

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Speaker 11: We were for the other day. The Vikings are confident

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Speaker 11: he'll be back as defensive coordinator if doesn't get a

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Speaker 11: head coaching job. Now, I don't know. Is it justifiable optimism,

887
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Speaker 11: is it implausible? Are they being confidence to the point

888
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Speaker 11: of delusional? I don't know. But watch this Pittsburgh job.

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Speaker 11: Because a couple of weeks ago I did some reporting

890
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Speaker 11: and talked to a bunch of different executives, coaches, others, etc.

891
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Speaker 11: Just to get a gauge on what the Brian Flores

892
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Speaker 11: chances of getting a head coaching job would be. And

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Speaker 11: along the way, and I'm surprised he hasn't gotten more interviews.

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Speaker 11: But along the way it became clear to me, despite

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Speaker 11: the issues in Miami, despite the things that you hear about,

896
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Speaker 11: you know how the Belichickian way doesn't necessarily mesh well

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Speaker 11: with the culture of the Vikings organization. And there are

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Speaker 11: some complaints about Flores being a little too hard charging.

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Speaker 11: Flores could be the guy in Pittsburgh. They loved him there,

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Speaker 11: loved it he was there one year. They gave him

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Speaker 11: the landing spot. After you followed the lawsuit against the NFL,

902
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Speaker 11: the Dolphins, of Giants, the Broncos, and the Texans. They

903
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Speaker 11: loved him in Pittsburgh. And you think about the way

904
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Speaker 11: he approaches the game. You think about the commitment to defense,

905
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Speaker 11: that creativity, the confusion, the chaos. They already know him,

906
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Speaker 11: They've already spent time with him. It won't surprise me,

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Speaker 11: number one, if he gets an interview. He should get

908
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Speaker 11: an interview there. But it won't surprise me if he's

909
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Speaker 11: the guy he's also And this is the other thing

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00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 11: to consider. Even though the NFL has a very real

911
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 11: age of an issue that doesn't get discussed nearly enough,

912
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Speaker 11: the Steelers are going to be looking for somebody young

913
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Speaker 11: enough to be there twenty years. And Floras is and

914
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Speaker 11: you know they love I think this idea that they

915
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Speaker 11: had three coaches since nineteen sixty nine, every one of

916
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Speaker 11: the guys they hired was in their thirties. Flores isn't.

917
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Speaker 11: But you know, given the difference between nineteen sixty nine

918
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Speaker 11: and today, early forties, mid thirties, same thing from the

919
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Speaker 11: standpoint of life expectancy and work life and fitness and

920
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Speaker 11: all the other things to go into it. He could

921
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Speaker 11: do that job for twenty years if the Steelers would

922
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Speaker 11: decide he's the right guy. They got a hell of

923
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Speaker 11: a choice to make. They gonna have a lot of options.

924
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 11: The problems haveing a lot of options. You eventually got

925
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Speaker 11: pick one. It's like going out to one of those

926
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Speaker 11: places with his big ass menu and you got, man,

927
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Speaker 11: this looks good, this looks good, this looks good. You

928
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 11: got to pick one at some point, and they're going

929
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Speaker 11: to have to make a decision. I will not be

930
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Speaker 11: surprised if he emerges as a very viable contender in Pittsburgh.

931
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Speaker 6: And also around here. The Vikings had their season closing

932
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Speaker 6: off season commencing a press conference yesterday, O'Connell and Quasia

933
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Speaker 6: doofa mensa. Neither the head coach or the GM said

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Speaker 6: yesterday JJ McCarthy absolutely is the team starter in twenty

935
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Speaker 6: twenty six. Now, I'd still make him favor to start

936
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Speaker 6: Game one, But those guys did not conclusively say young

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Speaker 6: JJ is for sure the starter.

938
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Speaker 1: What do you make of that?

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Speaker 11: Well, I think of what that message would be if

940
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Speaker 11: they said it in Kansas City or Buffalo or Baltimore.

941
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Speaker 11: The message is clear, and they're sort of admitting that

942
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Speaker 11: they blew it last year by not having a viable

943
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Speaker 11: veteran quarterback there for the entire offseason, training camp, preseason.

944
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Speaker 11: They went out and grabbed Carson Wentz after the rosters

945
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Speaker 11: were cut, and he was the guy who became the

946
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Speaker 11: JJ McCarthy insurance policy. You need someone who can play

947
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Speaker 11: if he's injured. You need someone who can play. If

948
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Speaker 11: that guy is better than JJ. There needs to be

949
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Speaker 11: a real competition. I've been saying this for weeks, if

950
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Speaker 11: not months. There needs to be a real competition. The

951
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Speaker 11: question is who's going to take that job. Who's the

952
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 11: veteran out there, who's going to step in and say, Okay, fine,

953
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Speaker 11: I understand that I may be on the bench, And

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Speaker 11: I think it all comes down to expressing to the

955
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Speaker 11: veteran the same message that the Colts gave the Daniel

956
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Speaker 11: Jones last year when it was clear to him he

957
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Speaker 11: was going to have a fair chance to unseat the

958
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Speaker 11: guy in whom the team has more invested. From the

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Speaker 11: standpoint of making themselves look good, making themselves look like

960
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 11: they didn't blow a top ten draft pick. The Colts

961
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Speaker 11: were willing to admit they got it wrong with Anthony

962
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Speaker 11: Richardson and they just wanted to stabilize the position. The

963
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Speaker 11: Vikings are going to have to send a clear, unequivocal

964
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Speaker 11: message to whoever they target. You get to come here

965
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Speaker 11: and truly compete to be the week one starter, and

966
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Speaker 11: if JJ McCarthy doesn't like it, they'll deal with that.

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Speaker 11: I think last year they were more inclined to tiptoe

968
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Speaker 11: around JJ McCarthy this year after giving him a season

969
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Speaker 11: to show what he can do when healthy. And Number one,

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Speaker 11: you got to stay healthy. If you're going to be

971
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Speaker 11: a franchise quarterback, you gotta play. You got to figure

972
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Speaker 11: out how to play without missing games. The quarterback has

973
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Speaker 11: to be there every single week. So the position that

974
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Speaker 11: he's going to be in is justified, it's deserved. And

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Speaker 11: now the challenge is of the options that are out there,

976
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Speaker 11: who's the guy that's going to be competing with JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 11: It's going to be a tough decision. Just like with

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Speaker 11: the Steelers picking a coach, You're gonna have options. You

979
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Speaker 11: got to pick the right one.

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Speaker 6: Enjoyce Chicago, my brother. That was fantastic. Call you next week,

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Speaker 6: Sea Paul. See you about Mike Florioprofootball Talk dot Com.

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Speaker 6: It's ten o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Good morning.

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Speaker 6: The scribe, Ben Gesling from The Star Tribune joins nine

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Speaker 6: to noon