1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: And he's just getting more and more interesting for the 2 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: Steelers in the AFC North, Flacco is now Cincinnati's quarterback. 3 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: That's put Shador Sanders in play for Sunday when Cleveland 4 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: comes to Acriture, depending on if Dylan Gabriel gets hurt 5 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: or performs poorly. Joining us now to talk about all 6 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: of that and more, he covers the Steelers for the 7 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: Athletic is Mike de Fabo. Mike, let's start off with 8 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: that quarterbacks with Charu. What's that do for both those teams? 9 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: Well, I guess looking at it from the Bengals perspective, 10 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: they're a team that's built to be around Joe Burrow's 11 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: right arm, and without Joe Burrow, you're seeing that they 12 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: can't do much of anything. So it's kind of a 13 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: desperation move on their part. I mean, you're bringing in 14 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: a guy that the Cleveland Browns gave up on. 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: That doesn't sound too great for me. 16 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: But on the flip side, the same Joe Flacco beat 17 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: the NFL's highest paid defense last. 18 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 3: Year when he was with the Colts, so you. 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: Know you're hoping that he's somewhat better than Jake Browning 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: the turnover machine. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. In 21 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: terms of the Cleveland Browns, I mean, I think this 22 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 2: just shows the complete lack of a plan on their part. 23 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: And they came in the year with four quarterbacks. They've 24 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 3: already traded two of them away. 25 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: Now you're starting a quarterback in Dylan Gabriel while he 26 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: was drafted in the third round. I think that the 27 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: owner would like to go to Schadur sooner than later. 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: So to me, it just shows a lack of plan 29 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: and lack of a vision from the Cleveland Browns. 30 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: No surprise there are the Steelers in great shape or 31 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: is the situation flattered to deceive? 32 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: You know, I think they're in very good situation as 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: long as they take care of business. But nothing is 34 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: guaranteed when you're playing the AFC North. And I actually 35 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: look at this matchup against the Cleveland Browns as a sneaky, 36 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: tough matchup for the Steelers. 37 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: I still think they win. 38 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: But you know, right now, the Steelers' offense is get 39 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: the ball out of the quarterback's hands as quickly as possible. 40 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: You know, they're completing the ball the quickest in the NFL, 41 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 2: getting out of his hands quicker than anyone else, then 42 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: they're throwing it shorter than anybody else, but because of 43 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,119 Speaker 2: yards after the catch, it's been successful. 44 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: And my plan, if I were a. 45 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: Defensive coordinator would be, Okay, let's bring a ton of pressure, 46 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: let's stop the run, and let's play a lot of 47 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: man coverage. 48 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: All those things the Cleveland Browns do well. 49 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 2: They're the best team in the league at stopping the run, 50 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: and I think that there should be a legitimate concern 51 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: that they make the Steelers one dimensional. And then with 52 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 2: their pass rush, you know, against the forty one year 53 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: old quarterback with Broderick Jones, who's allowed the most sacks 54 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 2: in the league so far with four, you know, I 55 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: think that there are some matchup problems for the Steelers. 56 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: That said, they absolutely should be able to. 57 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: Take care of business and they should be able to 58 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: move to five and one within the next couple of days. 59 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: How will the Steelers basically using seven offensive linemen force 60 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: Cleveland to adjust on defense? 61 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 4: And is that a good thing for the Steelers. 62 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: I'm not sure it is, but maybe it is against 63 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: clean one A Miles Garrett. 64 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think it's going to be something they 65 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: definitely lean into and if anything, I think that you 66 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: could see the Steelers expand the usage of Spencer Anderson 67 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: a little bit more. 68 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 3: That's all I'll say right now until after the game. 69 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: But like you know, the Steelers, basically what they can 70 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: do here, and what I think they will do is 71 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: take a page out of everybody else's playbook. 72 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 3: They've seen what happens to TJ. Watt. You double them, you. 73 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: Chip him, you have a running back hit him, And 74 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: I think that's going to absolutely be the same plan 75 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: because Broderick Jones is not yet at a point and 76 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: need as Troy Foaltanu to stand up face to face and. 77 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: Head to head against Miles Garrett. 78 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: Very few people are and so I think that as 79 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: much as Spencer Anderson opened things up in the running game, 80 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: especially when he was next to Darnel Washington, I think 81 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: that in past protection, having that extralignment it's going. 82 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: To be just as important. 83 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:52,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. 84 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 4: I don't know. 85 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I understand it can work, but I don't 86 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: like the way Friarmouth and John who were being so underused, 87 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: and it's curely Neanderthal. I'm not sure it works against 88 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: good teams when the games get more important. 89 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I hear what you're saying there, and 90 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: that is the tough thing for Pat Fryarmouth is like 91 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: one of those tight ends is going to be Darnel Washington, 92 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 2: and then good luck trying to wrestle snaps away from 93 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: John new Smith, because John, who's probably the more complete 94 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: of the two, or at least he's a better pass 95 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: catcher and a dynamic weapon with the ball. 96 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 3: In his hands. 97 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: He can run all the same routes. He can't quite 98 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: block as well as Pat Fryarmoth. But Pat was never 99 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 2: a great blocker to begin with. And not to mention 100 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 2: the fact that, like if you've ever played for Arthur Smith, 101 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 2: you can always play for Arthur Smith, case and point, 102 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 2: Scottie Miller, case in point, you know some of these 103 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: other guys that they've brought in where it's so like, 104 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: I obviously Arthur Smith favors John hu Smith. 105 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 3: He probably had a heavy hand in the decision to 106 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 3: acquire him. 107 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 2: And unfortunately for Pat Fryarmuth right now, his skill set 108 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: is redundant and I think he's going to have a 109 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: hard time going forward carving out a niche for himself. 110 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I think he could be on the 111 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: trade market at season's end, I think high Smith could 112 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: be two. But then again, he just jumped right back 113 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: in the first team ahead her Big, until of course 114 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: high Smith gets hurt again. 115 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think maybe what they'll end up 116 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 2: doing a little bit is like, here's the way that 117 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: I look at the. 118 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 3: Situation market outside linebacker. For the first couple. 119 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: Weeks without high Smith, we were talking about how opponents 120 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 2: were running away from TJ. Watt and Herbig wasn't big 121 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: enough to be stout and set that edge. Now Herbig 122 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: has a couple of really great performances when the Steelers 123 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 2: were able to make opponents one dimensional, and he shows 124 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: his pass rush prowess, and we want to see more 125 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: of her Big. I think the answer is both. So 126 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: you could play high Smith a little bit more in running. 127 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: Situations on early downs. 128 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: You could play her Big a little bit more in 129 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: passing situations. 130 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 3: But still I think you can use both of them. 131 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: And I think that there'll be plenty of opportunities on 132 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: third downs where all three edge rushers Watt. 133 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 3: Heismith, and her Bigger on the field together. 134 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: Why can't Roman Wilson get on the field for that matter, 135 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: Caleb Johnson, I look at the Browns playing rookies. I 136 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: look at Dylan Gabriel in there, and he's doing okay. 137 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's the long term answer. I look 138 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: at the rookie running back who's doing really well. I 139 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: think they're getting better. I don't think they'll beat the 140 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: Steelers Sunday, but I think they're getting better. I think 141 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: the Steelers right now, in terms of improvement, they're not 142 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: quite a finished product, but I think they're stealing to 143 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: get better is a lot lower. 144 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 5: No. 145 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 2: I agree with you, Mark, And it stuck out to 146 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: me like I was watching games a Sunday, and you know, 147 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: the Jaguars were running with Baseel Tooton, a rookie like 148 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: this was quench On Judkins was tearing things up for 149 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 2: the Browns and the running game Traveon Henderson for the 150 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: Patriots was showing what he can do. You know, Cam 151 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: Scattaboo has been off to a good start. This was 152 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: supposed to be a really strong running back class, and 153 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: the Steelers supposedly got one of the better ones. I mean, 154 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 2: Caleb Johnson was supposed to be like an early second 155 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: round pick. To get him in the third was good value. 156 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: And I feel like he just has no confidence whatsoever. 157 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 2: Like when he gets the ball. 158 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 4: Well, that's what they do. 159 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: They bring guys in and they break them down to 160 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: build him back up, Except they don't really build him 161 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: back up. 162 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 4: Look can Broderick Jones? 163 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely agree with you, Mark, Like, how are these. 164 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: Guys ever going to get better if you don't at 165 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: least give him an opportunity. Yeah, Caleb Johnson may have 166 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: crossed the Steelers a game, but I also feel like. 167 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 3: Long term he may be the answer to unlock this 168 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 3: running game because of his style and because of the 169 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 3: sit there. 170 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: And similarly with Roman Wilson, I mean, he's just getting 171 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: absolutely nothing. He has one catch in his NFL career, 172 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: and you should go back and watch it because it's hilarious. 173 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: It's like a dump off and he gets absolutely clawbered 174 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: and flipped over the defensive player. Hell of a lot 175 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: to take for one catch in your NFL career. 176 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 6: You know. 177 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 2: Part of it's because they have such a tight end 178 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: centric offense right now. 179 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 3: The Steelers are at the bottom of the league. 180 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: In eleven personnel, so three receivers on the field. The 181 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: top two wide receivers are DK and Calvin Austin and 182 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: good luck. 183 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: If you're not one of those guys getting some playing time. 184 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: But I would like to see more Roman Wilson because 185 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: I mean, he's in the middle of his second season 186 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: right now, and the guy has one catch. 187 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: Well it's I don't mind him playing behind obviously DK 188 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: and even Calvin Austin, but when you see Scotty Miller 189 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: and Vince Karana getting more snaps and clearly higher on 190 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: the depth charted in their plans because they are these 191 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: try hard veterans with grit, that is the biggest bunch 192 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 1: of horsemen where I can think of, Yeah. 193 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: I agree with you, Mark, Like during the training camp, 194 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: I was thinking, yeah, this is great for Scotty Miller, 195 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: that he's one of the more reliable weapons in the 196 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: receiving game, But it's not a good thing for the 197 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: Steelers because Scotty Miller has a pretty defined ceiling. He's 198 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: a veteran fringe player for a reason right now, and 199 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: I just feel like you need to be developing a 200 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 2: guy like Roman Wilson, and I agree. I mean that 201 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: nothing irks me more than when they put three tight 202 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 2: ends on the field and Scotty Miller is the only 203 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: wide receiver I don't understand that personnel grouping whatsoever. I 204 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 2: didn't understand it last year, and for some reason it 205 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: still exists this year. 206 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 4: I feel like the Steelers can't lose this game, but 207 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 4: they just might. 208 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree with you, Mark, and I think even looking. 209 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: Ahead, those short week Thursday night games AFC North on 210 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: the road, those are typically. 211 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 3: The ones that Mike Tomlin loses. 212 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: I had the Steelers penciled in for a loss when 213 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow was playing, and now with Joe Flacco, I 214 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 2: think that there's a chance that they lose that one. 215 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 3: So like they absolutely have to get. 216 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: The job done this week because they're just they're tough. 217 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 3: Games are still coming. 218 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: Everyone is kind of counting these these games and the 219 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: league that the Steelers have. 220 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 3: But the Steelers still have to play the Lions. 221 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: They still have to play the Bills, they still have 222 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: to play the Green Bay Packers, the Colts, who are 223 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: surprisingly good this year, the Chargers, who are going to 224 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: be frisky, especially at home. 225 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 3: And there are a lot of tough games. 226 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: And so when you get a team like Cleveland coming 227 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh, it's imperative. 228 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 3: That the Steelers take care of business. 229 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: You know, one thing I'm still not sure about and 230 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 1: you wrote about this. The athletic mike is their secondary 231 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: with Jalen Ramsey atto though Tomlin talked like there was 232 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: a chance he might be able to play against Cleveland. 233 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 4: I think that might have just been a smoke screen. 234 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: But even though they do have relative depth in the secondary, 235 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: now Joey Porter Junior is going to be back. It's 236 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: tough when you bring in a guy to be the 237 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: Swiss Army Knife and he's not available. 238 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. 239 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 3: Absolutely so. 240 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 2: They had this grand vision for all four defensive backs 241 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: playing on the field together, the top guys Joey Porter Junior, 242 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: Sleigh Ramsey, and Deshaun Elliott. 243 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: Those guys have been on the field together for just twenty. 244 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: Five plays, all of those the Jets. And here's what 245 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: surprised me. Mark justin Field's completed seven of his eight 246 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: passes for two touchdowns when those two guys, when all 247 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 2: four of those guys are on the field. So just 248 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 2: them being healthy and on the field isn't going to 249 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: make this a cohesive back end. They need in game 250 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: experience to gel and you know, to reach the potential 251 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: that we've been hearing about so much during the preseason. 252 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: So like, yeah, it's really big that they're losing Jalen Ramsey. 253 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: That said, I do give Brandon Echles credit. I feel 254 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: like that was a good depth signing because he can't 255 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: play outside, and now you know, if Ramsey can't go, 256 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: he would be the next guy up in the slot. 257 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: I think that that was Those are the sneaky important 258 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 2: acquisitions that make the difference in football teams, where a 259 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: guy that can start at multiple positions for you, if 260 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: you experienced an injury, can play on special teams. And 261 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: I think that he's been, you know, reasonably solid. 262 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 3: If not good, within his role so far this year. 263 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: The Steelers are three and one and everybody's giving them 264 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: the division title already. 265 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 4: We forget the last day were ten and three and 266 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 4: blew it. 267 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: That said, I look at Baltimore, Cincinnati played the eye test. 268 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: They look like they're in the tank and they look 269 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: like they stink and they know it, which is a 270 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:52,239 Speaker 1: bad combination. 271 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I completely agree with you, Mark, Like these 272 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 2: these teams, like Miles Gary just months ago was trying 273 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: to force his way out of Cleveland and was just 274 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: destroying them and saying I'm never going to win here. 275 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: This is a trash franchise. Then they gave him a 276 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: boatload of money and he changed his mind. But there's 277 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: still that same team. Miles Garrett told you that they 278 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 2: were that no star players should ever want to play 279 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 2: for them, and they're going to continue to spin their 280 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 2: wheels at quarterback with no plan and no vision in sight. 281 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Baltimore, you know, they're still the betting favorite 282 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: with the books to win the AFC North. I don't 283 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: know what that says about the Steelers. I don't know 284 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: what it says about the Ravens. I think it says 285 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: the books are looking at what happened last year. 286 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. That was kind of startling to me. 287 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: But when when you look at I think the biggest 288 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: factor is that the Ravens still have. 289 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 3: To play the Steelers twice. 290 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 2: And as recently as OTA's Tarol Austin, the defensive coordinator, 291 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 2: was saying, we have a Baltimore problem. That's a direct 292 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: quote from him, and I think it was a great 293 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: quote because it's so true, and so I think the 294 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 2: odds makers are looking at it saying there's a reasonable 295 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 2: chance that Baltimore could still sweep the Steelers if they're 296 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 2: able to get healthy, they could go on the run, 297 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 2: they could get hot, they could be that team no 298 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: wants to play. 299 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 3: And you know the way I'm looking at. 300 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: It, Week eighteen, when it's Steelers versus Ravens, I think 301 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: that right there could end up determining the division. 302 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: Well here's a scary proposition. I think the Steelers, given 303 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: their schedule, could be in contention for even the AFC's 304 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: number one seed when they play Buffalo on November thirtieth, 305 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: and I think they might have a two game lead 306 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: on the Ravens when they play them on December seventh. 307 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: So we're going to have meaningful games, which is what 308 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: the Steelers want above all. 309 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's so important that they're able to 310 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 2: capitalize on this and win the division because. 311 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: The bottom line is they have to win a playoff game. 312 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: It's been far too long and this season, for better 313 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: or worse, is going to be judged as a success 314 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 2: or of failure based on what they do in the postseason. 315 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: And to me, obviously, their best chance to win that 316 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: playoff is going to be to host it here at 317 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: Akraser Stadium, and I think that might be their only 318 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: way to win our playoff game as if it's here 319 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: at home. 320 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 3: So like I think that this division, you know, in 321 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 3: the years. 322 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 2: Past, I think they kind of like beat their chest 323 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: and celebrated and said we ran the North and made 324 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: more of a big deal of the division than it 325 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: really was. 326 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 3: But when it comes to actually. 327 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: Winning a game when it matters, I think that winning 328 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: this division is the first step towards achieving that goal. 329 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 4: Mike has always great stuff. 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In the postgame, he is Matt Barkowski. Bart, 423 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: it looks like Shilovs is in goal tonight and not Jari. 424 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 4: Does that surprise you? And do you like that move? 425 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 5: Uh? 426 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, that does surprise me. I mean I was at 427 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 6: practice yesterday and I was trying to kind of trying 428 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 6: to figure out what the lines are going to be 429 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 6: with the d pairs, and it's kind of it was 430 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 6: it's still up in the air. I mean, honestly, I 431 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 6: don't know if we'll know till really right before game time. 432 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 6: I know they can release whatever they want, but yeah, 433 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 6: that that does kind of surprise me. I don't know, 434 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 6: maybe Jars maybe has something lingering going on and they're 435 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 6: rest and them that we don't know about. But because 436 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 6: I would have really expected him to start, Yeah, I like. 437 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: It though, because I'm not sure there's a big difference, 438 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: and with the amount of change the Penguins are making 439 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: with their roster and going to youth, I think having 440 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: a different guy in goal instead of the guy who's 441 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: failed an awful lot that can't be bad. 442 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 6: No, it can't be bad. But at the same time, 443 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 6: I think in order to really I mean, they're not 444 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 6: really going to tank a season or anything like that, 445 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 6: you know, and just do a full like, hey, this 446 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 6: is a three four year rebuild process. So honestly, I 447 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 6: still think their best option moving forward is to get 448 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 6: Jars going. I know it's been two or three years 449 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 6: of him being quite inconsistent, but you know, before that, 450 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 6: he was an All Star and he's shown that he 451 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 6: can be one of the top goalies in the league. 452 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 6: So I think if you're gonna make any competitive push 453 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 6: for playoffs or anything like that. I do think that 454 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 6: needs to rely on Jerry. 455 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 4: What are your expectations for Dan Mues as a coach? 456 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: It feels a lot less stale and maybe a bit 457 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: more structured. But will the veterans adhere to that structure? 458 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 6: Yeah? I think it is definitely both of those. And 459 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 6: I think a lot of that was I mean, Sully 460 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 6: was here for seven years, and you know, shelf life 461 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 6: on NHL coaches is definitely not that long anymore. So 462 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 6: you know, last year or two, Sully kind of took 463 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 6: a step back, and I'm sure the guys are sick 464 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 6: of hearing his voice and and sometimes that that's what 465 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 6: it takes, is just hearing a new voice. So you know, 466 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 6: I'm sure from sully standpoint, he was still trying to 467 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 6: have the structure and put his systems into place, and 468 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 6: guys just really weren't going to want to listen. So 469 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 6: getting a younger, you know, pretty energetic, first head coaching 470 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 6: job in the NHL and use I think is a 471 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 6: really good thing. I do think the veterans, at least 472 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 6: from what I've heard in camp, responded pretty well. And 473 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 6: you know, like you know, with the system's aspect, it's 474 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 6: unless you're going to something drastically different like a one 475 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 6: to three one or something you know that's pretty unique, 476 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 6: or pinch every time like Florida does. You know, there's 477 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 6: there's not too much nuanced difference between the systems. It's 478 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 6: just getting everybody to kind of stick with them consistently. 479 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 6: And I think with him coming in in, you know, 480 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 6: those first few practices in camp were pretty hard. I 481 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 6: mean there were not only guys getting hurt, but they 482 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 6: were going at it, they were battling. I think that's 483 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 6: sent a message that you know, he's not really one 484 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 6: to be messed with. So that should garner the respect 485 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 6: of everybody from top to bottom, you know, especially the veterans. 486 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 6: And then there's a lot of youth there too, so 487 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 6: they're going to try and make a really good first impression, 488 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 6: especially with a new coach, so they're going to be 489 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 6: pushing those veterans too. 490 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 4: Which of the younger lives do you like? 491 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 6: The younger brunique on Dean is pretty interesting. He's had 492 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 6: quite a good camp. Kindle uh started off a little slow. 493 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 6: The last few games he's he's done pretty well, and 494 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 6: allegedly he's playing with Thomasino and Novak, So I think 495 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 6: that's a pretty interesting line. That's a couple of creative 496 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 6: guys all in one spot. I mean, Thomasino, Novak. They 497 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 6: have a little bit of experience, so Kendall shouldn't have 498 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 6: any problem, you know, he or he should be able 499 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 6: to learn off them. And then they're all kind of 500 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 6: a little bit like minded where they'll take some chances, 501 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 6: and they all have a lot of high end skills. 502 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 6: So I think that could be that could be pretty interesting. 503 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 6: I know his I guess his skating doesn't look great, 504 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 6: but he can move, like even in practice yesterday I 505 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 6: was watching and it's not it's it's it's just different, 506 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 6: you know, like there yeah, yeah, yeah, Like it looks 507 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 6: like he's not moving, but he definitely is, So I 508 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 6: don't have any any doubt about that. And then the 509 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 6: the defenseman Bruneki. You know, he showed a little bit 510 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 6: of skill in in preseason and then just a little 511 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 6: bit I watched him yesterday in practice. He looks very 512 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 6: poised and very calm on the back end. So uh, 513 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 6: it'll be interesting to see if he plays and who 514 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 6: he plays with. But those two right now, I think 515 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 6: are the two that I'd be watching for. 516 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: Well, Coyven is still a rookie, and I think playing 517 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: on the line with Sid, he reminds me a lot 518 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,719 Speaker 1: of Genzil in terms of approach and the way he 519 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: operates with Sid. 520 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 4: I mean, I hate to go overboard bart. 521 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: But potentially he could be like a Rookie of the 522 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: Year guy if if he stays on Sid's line. 523 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 6: If I if I could go back to playing Sid's line, 524 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 6: I might even be able, right, right, right, but maybe 525 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 6: a couple of votes. Yeah, no, I know what you mean. 526 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 6: He does. He is very smart. Gensel is a very 527 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 6: smart player. Gensel from if we're going to compare the two, 528 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 6: I mean he had more grit. Yeah, he was, you 529 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 6: know he he he went to the dirty areas a 530 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 6: little bit different of a player. I think that Coyven 531 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 6: and can kind of control the pace of the play 532 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 6: a little more. So, you know, that's a that's a 533 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 6: talent that not a lot of guys have. And at 534 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 6: the end of the season last year when he was 535 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 6: on the power play, I thought he did a great 536 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 6: job on the half wall. So if he does, he 537 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 6: is able to get some games going forward with Sid consistently, 538 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 6: especially with However, long mcgrory's out, I don't see why 539 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 6: he wouldn't be on that line then that. I mean, yeah, 540 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 6: that's definitely going to help him out. Seems like a 541 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 6: good kid too, so I'm sure he's ready and eager 542 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 6: to learn. And there's not a better guy to learn from. 543 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 4: Bart. What's Carlson going to do this year? 544 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: And I say that because he had a great preseason? 545 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 4: Is that just fool's gold? What do you think? 546 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 6: I don't. I never really rate anything on preseason, especially veterans, 547 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 6: because it is just that much lower and choppier, and 548 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 6: and it's just it's more disorganized. 549 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 4: No question. But with him, I'll pick what I can get. 550 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, one hundred percent. And I mean that does 551 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 6: speak to his Normally, the guys with the high end 552 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 6: skill can kind of do a little better in preseason 553 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 6: just because it is more of a just run around 554 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 6: like a chicken with your head cut off and nobody 555 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 6: knows what's going on. So you have that kind of 556 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 6: skill in skating, you're gonna be able to, you know, 557 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 6: just move your waist through a game. You know, it's 558 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 6: it's who knows. With him, I mean, you know, one 559 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 6: year he could put up one hundred points. Another year 560 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 6: he could put up fifty points in pout and whatever. 561 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 6: So uh, it's I can tell you it's not up 562 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 6: to anybody else what happens with him. If he wants 563 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 6: to go out and he wants to win the Norse 564 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 6: this year, I mean, well, maybe not with kel mccarr anymore. 565 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 6: But if he wants to be talked about his top 566 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 6: defenseman in the league, like he has been his whole career, 567 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 6: then it's his decision. He still has that talent, he 568 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 6: has that ability. He's been a little banged up here 569 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 6: and there over the year, but I don't think it's 570 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 6: lingering or affecting him. So maybe with this young blood 571 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 6: in the in the dressing room, it'll rejuvenate him and 572 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 6: he'll go out there and play like we know he can't. 573 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: We're talking to Matt Barkowski sports Net Pittsburgh here on 574 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: the x Bart. 575 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 4: Is this even close to a playoff team? 576 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 6: I don't think so. Sorry everybody, but I don't think so. 577 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 6: I don't think that's part of the plan either. 578 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 9: I think this is a top five pick and get 579 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 9: in that McKenna lottery. Yeah, I mean that's but a plan. Nonetheless, yeah, 580 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 9: and they can tell us whatever they want, but we 581 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 9: kind of know that is the plan. I mean, guys 582 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 9: are still going to try and be competitive and and 583 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 9: and you know, but if the message is that, hey, guys, 584 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 9: you know, like we're going to push and we're going 585 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 9: to push for the playoffs, this year happens or not, 586 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 9: no big deal whatever, but next year would be the 587 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 9: big year. And I think it's just a build up 588 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 9: because then you'll have ye then you'll have five or 589 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 9: six of these guys who are. 590 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 4: In their first year, and then you space to spend two. 591 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 6: Yep, yep. And you got all that money to spend 592 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 6: in the off season. You can trade for more picks 593 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 6: if you want. I don't know if that's necessary, but 594 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 6: you'll be able to spend that money. You'll have a 595 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 6: lot of guys who are in their second year, third year, 596 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 6: where they've had the experience, they know what it is, 597 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 6: they're going to get a taste for playoff hockey. So 598 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 6: I would just assume that this is kind of just 599 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 6: drilling it into them what it takes to get there. 600 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 6: Because I have a feeling this team this year is 601 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 6: going to see that it's very difficult, and you know, 602 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 6: they probably won't make it in. 603 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 4: Here's the disclaimer. 604 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: I totally agree, and I've been saying that, you know, 605 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: all preseason. The disclaimer is the Eastern Conference is really bad, 606 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: especially with Florida crippled by injuries. 607 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no, certainly it is. But it's you know, 608 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 6: they're still it's kind of difficult. Yeah, Barkov's out, but 609 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 6: they have enough guys who have won and can kind 610 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 6: of get by during the regular season. Like you see, 611 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 6: all these teams are kind of doing that anymore and 612 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 6: just getting in and then they pick up the pace 613 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 6: because they have that veteran leadership that's like, okay, time 614 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 6: to turn up a notch. Yeah. The rest of the conference, 615 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 6: it didn't really get any better, did it. Like you know, 616 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 6: there wasn't any anything major that happened. 617 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay's another. I think Carolina. I don't know if 618 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: you're with me on this. I think Britada Moore is 619 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: a terrible coach. I just think there's I think every 620 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: even good team has something about them to not trust. 621 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, and like that's all I was gonna say. You 622 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 6: see Marner going to Vegas, like that makes them considerably better. 623 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 6: You didn't see anybody from the West or any other 624 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 6: teams really coming over to the East or anything like 625 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 6: that and making a splash. And then with Brenda Moore too, like, yeah, 626 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 6: he's a great motivator. It's just they always saysle out 627 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 6: in playoffs, and I should really believe it's that man 628 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 6: Ol Mande, because you get deeper into playoffs, the talent 629 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 6: level just increases a little bit, and all it takes 630 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 6: is one guy to get beat. So yeah, I mean, 631 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,719 Speaker 6: Jersey's not a Fred Islanders. Rangers could be interesting with uh, 632 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 6: you know, JT being their full time to shirk it 633 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 6: if he gets back on his game, I mean, they 634 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 6: could be an interesting one. 635 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: I actually prey Stale. I like the top of the 636 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: Rangers roster. Bart I mean with our guys tro checking JT. 637 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: And I'm rooting for him, and I'm rooting for Sally 638 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,239 Speaker 1: and Shastarkan's great, But besides the good players, they have 639 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: a lot of bad players. 640 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 6: Hello, you're there. Yep, you're there. 641 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 4: You're there, Barton, Yep, I'm here. 642 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: I was saying, I don't like the Rangers roster from 643 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: top to bottom. 644 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 4: I think it's top heavy, but I think there's a 645 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 4: lot of holes too. 646 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, No, they're definitely are holes, especially on defense, which 647 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 6: we've seen in playoffs. Really matters from Edmonton's woes the 648 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 6: last few years because I don't think their decour is 649 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,479 Speaker 6: very good at all, but they have that high end. 650 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 6: They can just win you a few games here or there, 651 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 6: and then she circin if he can steal some games. 652 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 6: You know, they're most likely going to get into the 653 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 6: playoffs this year. I don't. I don't think they'll miss that, 654 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 6: and then they can make a last going from there. 655 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 6: So I think that they're if if any team got 656 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 6: a little better, maybe them, just with JT being there 657 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 6: full time, and and you know, I didn't really care 658 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 6: for how KeAndre Miller plays defense, so I don't think 659 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 6: losing him is a problem. And also just it's just 660 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 6: it's like you're saying, though, it's it was so stale 661 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 6: as the posts or the offseason moves that it didn't 662 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 6: really change things up too much other than the injuries. Uh. 663 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: We gotta ask some cliched questions, bar who's your MVP? 664 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: Who would you bet on there? 665 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 4: For the league? 666 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 6: For the league? Yep, I'd really like to see them 667 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 6: give it to Cale mccarr because I think if I'm 668 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 6: starting a team, I would pick him as my player 669 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 6: over you know, it's either Ham or McDavid or Pouchurov 670 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 6: or whoever you want to pick, or even dry Studd. 671 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 6: I guys don't realize how good Dry Suttle is because 672 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 6: McDavid's there all the time. But i'd like to see 673 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 6: him give it to kill mccar. They probably won't. He'll 674 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 6: win the North again, So I'll go with McDavid. 675 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: How about best goalie because I don't think there is 676 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: truly a best goalie. I don't think there's been a 677 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: superstar goalie in the league since Vasilevski kind of passed 678 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: his prime. 679 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 4: He was great. He's still pretty good. 680 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, he is pretty good, and he a man. I 681 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 6: mean yeah, Like you're saying, there's not here, there's not 682 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 6: a clear number one anymore. I'll go with Uh, well, 683 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 6: let's go with Vaski. I was actually gonna say that 684 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 6: before you You've picked it up. We haven't really heard 685 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 6: a lot about him last two years or so, so 686 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 6: I'll go with Vasileski. 687 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Tampa could make a run. 688 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna smell the blood with Florida kind 689 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: of beat up and they're older, but there's still real quality. 690 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: I think they'll kind of put it together and get 691 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: on a search. 692 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, they're a little older, their cores, their cores definitely 693 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 6: getting up there in age, but I don't think they've 694 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 6: aged out yet. Uh So, yeah, it's really how how 695 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 6: how do those guys? How does Vasileski to play? How 696 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 6: does Coucher I want to play? Because they had their 697 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 6: they already won their cups? Do they want to do 698 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 6: it again? You know, John Cooper signed the Quiet extension 699 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 6: this summer that nobody heard about. He's a very good coach, 700 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 6: uh as we've seen, so they can definitely make a run. 701 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 6: And coupled with we're gonna see Florida drop off here. 702 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 6: I mean, bar that Barkov being hurt is a is 703 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 6: a gigantic, gigantic hit to that locker room, to to 704 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 6: everything that goes on, uh during the game, before the game, 705 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 6: anything like that. I mean, when you're for sure leader 706 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 6: is out of the lineup, other people have to step up, 707 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 6: and it kind of gets a little awkward of whose 708 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 6: role is what? You know? Especially yep, yep, yeah, I know, 709 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 6: it's like it's it's it's a mess down there. I mean, 710 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 6: I don't know how they're gonna how they're going to 711 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 6: figure that one out. But uh, yeah, I could see 712 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 6: Tampa making a run here. I mean they're they're in 713 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 6: my mind, they're a playoff team, solidly a playoffs sure 714 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 6: I barring any draftic injuries, Yeah, they can make a run. 715 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 4: Who's your Stanley Cup Final? Bar who's your winner? 716 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 6: Uh, it's a tough one. Vegas. I'm gonna go with Vegas. 717 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 6: I think in the West and in the East we 718 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 6: will go with Oh geez, I don't. I don't even 719 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 6: know because it's so it's so weak, Like. 720 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: I'm the same way, And ordinarily i'd say Toronto, but 721 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 1: they lost Marner and I just don't trust Toronto. 722 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 6: I don't. I don't trust Toronto, and I don't want 723 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 6: to pick Toronto. Even if they had, they could have 724 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 6: Marna McDavid, mccarr, Matthews, all of them in the lineup, 725 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 6: and I still wouldn't pick them. Tim Horton, Yeah exactly, Yeah, yeah, 726 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 6: everybody they I mean they could have, they could have 727 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 6: anybody in that lineup. They could have Darcy Tucker and everybody. 728 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 6: I don't I don't really care. I would never pick them. 729 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 6: But since we can't, let's go with well, I don't know, 730 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 6: let's just go with Let's go with Tampa. We've been 731 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,720 Speaker 6: talking about Tampa Florida's week and you know they won before. 732 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 6: They've been quiet last couple of years. I think they're 733 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 6: bored and they're gonna want to make a run. 734 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: Here, Bart great stuff, have fun on TV tonight. We'll 735 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: talk soon. 736 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 6: All right, Thanks Mark. 737 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: That's the great bat bark Cowski doing great on TV, 738 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: so check him out tonight on Sports Tet in Pittsburgh. 739 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: That it's time to Ask Mark Anything. Eight three, three, 740 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 1: four one two nine. Call now and Ask Mark Anything 741 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: five ninety X. 742 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 10: Time now to send in your questions for Ask Mark Anything, 743 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 10: use the talk back Mike on your free irt radio 744 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 10: app and record your question for the super Genius. 745 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 6: It's The Woody Show. 746 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: You can stream the X and us The Woody Show 747 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: on the free iHeartRadio. 748 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 7: App weekday mornings and six one five to ninety X. 749 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 10: To celebrate super Rue Loves Passman and that's I'll Make 750 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 10: a Dog's Day. 751 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 2: We're hosting an adoption event with crossover pause. 752 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 4: Rescue on October twenty second, from five to seven. 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Let's go to Roddington Roddington talk for 763 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: at least thirty seconds so I can keep chewing. 764 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 11: What up, man, Hey Mark, I'm a little Premier League 765 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 11: talk for you. I was just wondering who do you 766 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 11: think has been the best new edition after this summer 767 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 11: window in the Premier League, and who do you think 768 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:55,720 Speaker 11: has been performing the best. 769 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: That's actually a really good question because I think most 770 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: of the new dishes have been pretty disappointing so far, 771 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: don't you? 772 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 11: Yes, I totally agree, at least at least. 773 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 4: The big name new editions. Who would you say? 774 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 11: I actually think you might disagree with me. 775 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 6: I think it was. 776 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 11: Nick Voldermaid, the German striker who joined Newcas. 777 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 1: He's been productive and he has enabled them to make up, 778 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: you know, to some degree, not the entire degree, for 779 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: the loss of Eichik de Liverpool. 780 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 781 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 11: I mean, if I were them, I try to get 782 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 11: every set piece as possible because I think he's six 783 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 11: foot six if not close. 784 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: They have another center back who's a monster too, so yeah, 785 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 1: they want set piece too. 786 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 6: He's a German as well. 787 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: I gotta say though, I think that most of the editions, 788 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: like with Liverpool, verse hasn't been productive. 789 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 4: But I think he's mostly looked good. Isaac just needs 790 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 4: to get fit. 791 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: The one I'm worried about is Kirk hasn't left back. 792 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,240 Speaker 1: He he looks like he's just not a very good defender. 793 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: But I think the only guy I think Chesco in 794 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: it man, you will be good sooner later as well. 795 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: The only guy that looks useless is what's the goofy 796 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: name for Arsenal Giorckez. Yes, yeah, he he looks like 797 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: he has nothing, no motor even right. 798 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 6: Yeah. 799 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 11: I totally agree. Same thing with Ichi von Esse, who 800 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 11: they signed as well from Crystal Palace. I mean that 801 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 11: dude was a beast at Palace. 802 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, but pretty much every. 803 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 6: Game but he's nothing, so he's. 804 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 1: Good and he understands the league. And I don't think 805 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: they've played him enough to you. 806 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 11: I totally agree. They have him kind of ASSISI and 807 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 11: he's usually an attacking midfielder, and they have him playing 808 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 11: the left wings. 809 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: I read somewhere that they got him not to start, 810 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: but to motivate, like Martinelli and those other wings and 811 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: Tressard and I I think that's a poor reason to 812 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: get him. 813 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 4: I think he's better than both them guys. 814 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 11: Yeah, I totally agree. I think both of those guys 815 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,879 Speaker 11: are bunds, to be honest with you. And another guy 816 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 11: who's like him too is Chalky and taught them. I mean, 817 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 11: he's been pretty close to scoring and everything, but he's 818 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 11: been nowhere near productive like he has made at LEIPZIGGA 819 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 11: at PSB. 820 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: What the bottom line is all the top teams that 821 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,720 Speaker 1: got new players, even though most of the new players 822 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: haven't done great, they're still in the mix, like Liverpool 823 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,399 Speaker 1: or five and two. I'm not panicked. I would rather 824 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: we not have lost two in a row on last 825 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: minute goals. But I think when you're when you're blooding 826 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: in new players, it takes a bit. 827 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 4: Let's go to Cameron. Cameron as Mark anything. 828 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 6: Good day, double M. 829 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:36,320 Speaker 8: I said, good day, hey Manark, I'm down North Carolina. 830 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 8: And did you happen to hear the latest on the 831 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 8: Belichick fiasco going on at Carolina? 832 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 4: No, but I'd love to. 833 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 8: A local news agency down here wr L posted last 834 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 8: night this article and they're taking sources from parents and 835 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 8: players that it's an absolute dysfunctional organization right now, the 836 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 8: locker rooms divided. 837 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:58,879 Speaker 6: There's a lack of. 838 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 8: Communication between Belichick, Lombardi, and his staff. It speaks of 839 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 8: the crazy and absolute nepotism of hiring Belichick's sons Lombardi 840 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 8: son and the lack of experience at the collegiate level, 841 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 8: and it really speaks that he's just completely over his head. 842 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 8: And the rumors down here, even as late as this afternoon, 843 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 8: are that there's some conversations going on at the university 844 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 8: level as to what. 845 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 6: To do next. 846 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 4: I think they should get rid of him. 847 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: I think the minute he had the twenty something girlfriend, 848 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: he embarrassed himself, he made him an unseerious figure in 849 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: front of his players, and I think it's just all 850 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: gone horribly bad. And then you had the thing I 851 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 1: did read about where he told North Carolina's sid not 852 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: to tweet on any highlights of nclums who had big 853 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: plays in the NFL, which like took Drake May out 854 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: of the mixed. People wonder what was going on, and 855 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: eventually it did get tweeted, but he's like infamy, infamy, they've. 856 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 4: All got it in for me. Thank you for the call. 857 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 4: I'm Mark Man one oh five ninety x