1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: For Vikings Linebacker and sideline analyst for the vast and 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: never expanding KFA and Minnesota Vikings Audio Network joins to 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: chop it up regarding some football and don't forget at 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: Nacho liber Via Twitter at Nacho liber Via X follow 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: if you are so inclined, and Twin Cities Live Today 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: three to four thirty on Channel five Twin Cities Live. 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: You know, the show is anything but stupid, meshes pop 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: culture with news and events and is that of hilarity, poise, 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: and creativity. And as the co host, so watch today 10 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: at three on Channel five sponsor CCRF. And when U 11 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: Pete and I got together Tuesday and chatted at the 12 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: Vikings Museum, the Children's Cancer Research Fund came up. I 13 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: thought that was really cool. Yeah, that was really awesome. 14 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 2: I really appreciate CAPS for having us out a great 15 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: job out of nowhere. 16 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: They're just like, hey, you like. 17 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: To do these donations for any of the speakers that 18 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: come in, And they're like, hey, we know that you 19 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: work with CCRF, and like we love to make a donation. 20 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 3: Like yeah, that's awesome. 21 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: So you know, I got to tell the group of 22 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 2: you know, seventy ninety people there that you know about 23 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: what they do and how they help out children with 24 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: cancer and their families. And you know, it's a it's 25 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 2: a national nonprofit that's based right here, and they help 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 2: out every there's sort of like this umbrella that sort 27 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,279 Speaker 2: of helps out all these different hospital systems and different groups. 28 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 2: So every dollar you donate goes right to the kids 29 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: and the families, not just here, but but nationally, and 30 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 2: not just you know, the major the major hospitals, it's 31 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: all the small ones too, So appreciate that. 32 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 3: I have. 33 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: I feel pretty good about the Vikings winning this weekend, 34 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: and I have my reasons. What about you, Yeah, I 35 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: feel pretty good too. 36 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 4: You know. 37 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: I love what you put on, what you you told us, 38 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: and you kind of broke it down on Tuesday, just 39 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: how we bounce back from some of our losses, you know, 40 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: our tough losses when we don't. 41 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: Play very well. 42 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: And you know, I certainly think that that is that 43 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,279 Speaker 2: is the nature of where we're at, where our team 44 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: is still trying to find its groove a little bit, 45 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 2: and it may just sort of end up like this 46 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: as the season goes along, a little ups, little downs 47 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: and all that stuff. Not playing super consistent but the 48 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: thing that gives me a lot of optimism is that 49 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: we didn't get beat by Baltimore. We didn't run find 50 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: ourselves in a situation like we did with the Chargers 51 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: where it's like, man, I know that we are off, 52 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: but that was just a better team than us, and 53 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 2: they really hammered it to us. 54 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 3: The Ravens were not the better team. 55 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: And knowing that we can correct those mistakes during the 56 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: course of the week, we should be able to correct 57 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: those those prestat penalties, We should be able to correct 58 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: those things as far as getting the ball down the field, 59 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: maybe making the wrong decision, throwing a double coverage, stuff 60 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: like that. I don't think we're going to make those 61 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: same mistakes now. I know this is a different team. 62 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: They have some different challenges, but we have a really 63 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,399 Speaker 2: talented team, and when we play smart and we don't 64 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: shoot ourselves in the foot. 65 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 3: I think we can win this game. 66 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: I was asked this morning on a Mike Florio PFT 67 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: Live podcast with the false starts, why, I mean, just 68 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: simply like what led to that voluminous number. He started 69 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: off by talking about the very early in the equation 70 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: accusations that the Ravens were messing around into the line 71 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: with their changes and not necessarily going you know, they 72 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: weren't egregiously doing something to Macha Cadence that would lead 73 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: to it. Then Kevin O'Connell came by the radio show 74 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: Tuesday at eleven for x'es and O's asked him about it, 75 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: and he was like, no, that you know, we've broken 76 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: it down. That was not the reason why. So I'm 77 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: just going to ask you. I mean, here we are, 78 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: you know, X amount of days removed from the loss 79 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: to Baltimore three three days in front of the next 80 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: one with the false starts. Having thought about it a 81 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: little bit now like eight, why. 82 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: Well, it does seem like I think they're sort of 83 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: like dancing around it. But it seemed like there was 84 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: something that was different with the Cadence that they were 85 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: trying to do differently this game. And wow, you know, 86 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: I do think that's it'll be an easy fix, you know, 87 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 2: whether it's just simplifying things or whatnot. The one thing 88 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: that I will say is that's different from last game 89 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: to this game is I actually think that this game 90 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: is probably more important to have some pre snap shenanigans 91 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: with their defense because their defense does do a lot 92 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: of rotating with their safeties. They try to do some 93 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: movement pre snap. They really do a good job of 94 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: disguising and being patient, and they'll blitz from a static position, 95 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: they'll blitz from off ball, they'll blitz from depth, and 96 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: I think that gets really difficult. So any edge that 97 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: you can get where you mess with Cadence, you come 98 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: up to the line and you try to just get 99 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: them to rock on their their toes a little bit 100 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 2: and they tip a blitz, so they tip a movement. 101 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 3: I think that's gonna be really important for this game. 102 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: And unfortunately, we're coming off a game where we're probably 103 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: gonna have to simplify it and we're gonna have to 104 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: like not go up to the line and you know, 105 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: you know, you know, to kill kill kill, you. 106 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: Know, like like uh uh ha ready exactly exactly. 107 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: So I think this is the game where you probably 108 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 2: need more of that, and we're not going to see that, 109 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: so ILL have to battle through that as well. 110 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: I you know, it's it's even during the game call 111 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: when it was happening, and you know, I think I 112 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: came down to your off chat with Pete and I 113 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: was like, this this has to be something cadence related. 114 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: So I actually stopped being like three receivers left, tight 115 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: end right, two tight ends their balance here, this guy's here, 116 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: that guy's there, second and seven from the twenty, and 117 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: just did a little of it so to stop talking 118 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: to hear what was happening at the line. And and 119 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if you could notice this, but McCarthy's 120 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: you know, and again it's it's audio level of of 121 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: fieldside mics and stuff. It was louder and more biting 122 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: and direct than I recall. But you know, we don't 123 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: have a lot of examples here either. But so I 124 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: started listening to it during the game call after like 125 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: the fourth or fifth. 126 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: It was one of the ones in the fourth quarter. 127 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: So what you say, I definitely can buy into about 128 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: nine out of ten here with the cadence change, and 129 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: they just weren't. They weren't in lockstep with it. And 130 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's really most evident. When 131 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson has a false start, he has nine penalties 132 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: his whole career. That was the second false start of 133 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: his career. So you know, people can get after anybody 134 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: for whatever topic or reason they concoct or is legit period. 135 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: My man doesn't take many penalties and he doesn't take 136 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: any false starts, so that I think the cadence bits 137 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: the answer. 138 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: Well, the one that's the most telling to me is 139 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: when McCarthy false started. You know, if if the quarterback 140 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: is not one hundred percent sure when he's going to 141 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 2: receive the ball, well, then there's obviously some sort of disconnect. 142 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. 143 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: So, I mean, he's the one that's getting the call 144 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: into his helmet, he's the one that's disseminating the information 145 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: to the rest of the players, and he was somehow 146 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: confused and when the ball's coming out, so right, yeah, 147 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: so I do I do now that that game is 148 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: in a rear view mirror. Yeah, I mean, it's not ideal. 149 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: You heard Wes talk about it. He was embarrassed by it. 150 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: I think we are all. We all were because this 151 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: is a team that prides itself on being self disciplined 152 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: and not creating those sort of those situations where we're 153 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: giving up free yards. 154 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: To the defense. 155 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: So yeah, let's all just hope that that was the 156 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: one anomaly, and we hope we never see that again. 157 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: We never ever see eight fallse starts on the home 158 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: at home or or on the road ever in our lifetime. 159 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: So I don't think that's gonna happen. It's not going 160 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: to happen this game. 161 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: I would qualify Ben Leeber and his relationship with Harrison 162 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: Smith to be quite close, you know, as former player 163 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: and players go, or analysts and or players go. I've 164 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: just you know, I've seen you guys together before, and 165 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: I know you have a lot of respect for him. Man, 166 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: it's it's just two hundred of the game this weekend, 167 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: and you you played with a fair amount of really 168 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: really good players during your your decade ish career in 169 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: the National Football League. Playing with Harrison, I bet you 170 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: really would have enjoyed that though. Yeah, he started in twelve, 171 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: you finished in eleven or ten, one of the two 172 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: so just barely missed each other. But you guys really 173 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: really would have enjoyed each other. Oh, I absolutely would have. 174 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: I mean I would have. I love his demeanor, I 175 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: love his approach to the game. I think the one 176 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: thing that we all, we all appreciate about other players 177 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: is you may you may go out there and you 178 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: may be a you know, a journeyman type of guy 179 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: right where you just don't really catch on. You might 180 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: have a you know, you might carve out a five 181 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: six year career and never, We're never the guy. 182 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 2: If you came in and you prepared, and you worked 183 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: your butt off, and we saw how much you cared 184 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: about about going out there and how how much you 185 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: cared about your performance and your preparation, dude, we everybody 186 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: respects a guy like that. So take that times one hundred, 187 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 2: because what Harrison's been able to do actually on the 188 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: field is incredible. And then to know the way that 189 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: he prepares in the leader that he is in the 190 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 2: locker room, a guy that you can watch as a 191 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: young player and be like, all right, if you want 192 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: to see how a pro does it, this is how 193 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 2: a pro does it. 194 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: I love I loved playing with those guys. I mean it. 195 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: It did sort of chat me a little bit when 196 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: you see guys that don't take the game as serious. 197 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: And they might be great players, that may be Pro bowlers, 198 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 2: but you see how the way they just kind of 199 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: like disrespect the game from a preparation standpoint and they 200 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: just they let just their talents take over. It's like, yeah, 201 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: we love that you're performing for us and you're helping 202 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 2: us get wins and stuff. But man, dude, if you 203 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 2: just cared a little bit more and you put a 204 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: little bit more in like, you'd be even better. And 205 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 2: he's the opposite of that. So a ton of respect. 206 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: Well interesting you said that, and with respect. First thing 207 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: that comes to mind for me is Adrian Peterson, And 208 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I know Adrian pretty well 209 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 2: and have over the years likewise for you, you know, 210 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: and I so therefore to say he didn't just pore 211 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: over everything you possibly need to study. You know, it's 212 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 2: interesting that Antoine Winfield and Adrian Peterson were on the 213 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: same team because getting to know them both well, you 214 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 2: would hear certain things from one person Antwine, and then 215 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 2: certain things from another person. But Adrian, it's it's like 216 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: when people, you know, when when people. 217 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: This day and age, when there's like quarterback turns around, 218 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: running back's not there, went the wrong way, taps his chest. 219 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 3: My bad. 220 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: You know, I'm thinking, Okay, that happens, but it doesn't 221 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: happen a lot, and I just wonder what goes into it, 222 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: you know, from from a study standpoint, Well, with Pete, 223 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: not everybody's ad is what I'm getting at. And he 224 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 1: could not look at things for a long time, and well, 225 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: actually the holes over there, Agrien, cool, I'm going to 226 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: jump cut and go eighty two this way. And he 227 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: had the ability to do that and outrun mistakes. Yeah, 228 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: not everybody, No, a few are able to do that. Thus, 229 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: the like the study and how much time like Cousins 230 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: put into it, you put into it, Harrison put into it. Man, 231 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: that really matters. 232 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it really matters. 233 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: And the thing is, I laugh and I chuckle about 234 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: that because I wasn't athletic like that. I know, I 235 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: couldn't over athletic my mistakes. 236 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: You know. 237 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,599 Speaker 2: I didn't have that sort of superpower that some of 238 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: these like ultra talented guys are, So I had to know. 239 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 2: I had to get the edge of all right, well 240 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure the ball's going over here. I'm pretty 241 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 2: sure I know where to go if they run this 242 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 2: play like the way, I was able to deduce things 243 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: down to help myself out because if I fall step 244 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: and I was guessing I. 245 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 3: Was cooked like I couldn't. I didn't have that. I 246 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 3: didn't have the short airy quickness to like make up 247 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: for some of those things. I wasn't the. 248 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 2: Strongest guy to get off some of these blocks if 249 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: I wasn't playing with great techniques, so like I had, 250 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 2: out of necessity really prepare so hard just to just 251 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: to survive out that. 252 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: And see in watching back the Vikings and Ravens, and 253 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: there was a moment it was the the Mark Andrew's touchdown. Okay, 254 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: And and I'm not saying Josh Mittelis had no idea 255 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: what was happening. 256 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that. 257 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I saw Harrison Smith wave to him 258 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: down in the end zone once and then he came 259 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: over a little then hard twice. No, no, no, prop you're 260 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: not in the right spot. Yeah, and then Mattellis freezes 261 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: touchdown to a wide open Mark Andrews. And then they 262 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: kind of come together, Harrison and Mettelis as they walk off. 263 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: Harrison's not He's not the demonstrative type that's going to 264 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: be like arms out showing somebody up. Josh kind of 265 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: galloped over to talk to him, and they walked off together, 266 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: with Josh doing all the talking. You know, I don't 267 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: know what they said, but you could just kind of 268 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: tell that something went wrong there and that Smith was 269 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: ahead of the curve. 270 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 3: On where everybody should be you know. 271 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the thing is like if he 272 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: if you saw it the way you are kind of 273 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 2: laying it out, and we all get the idea that 274 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: he was trying to get Josh in the right spot 275 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: and like to cover whoever it's going to be in 276 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 2: that area, whether it's Andrews or somebody else. Yeah, that 277 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: wouldn't surprise me that he he knows. I mean, you 278 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: get down the red zone and the thing is a 279 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: lot of offenses sort of paar down what they're going 280 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: to do, and especially this part in the season when 281 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: you see when you see certain personnel groups and then 282 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: then you see the formation, and then you see the split, 283 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 2: and then you see the guys that are in those 284 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 2: splits and then those positions. If you're doing your tape 285 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 2: study and if you are really cataloging those things in 286 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 2: your brain, you got pretty good idea. Like you can 287 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 2: get probably the eighty percent certainty that this is the 288 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: play they're gonna run. Yeah, now you have to marry 289 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 2: that up with what you're doing defensively, Like, Okay, well, 290 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 2: if I'm in man to man, now i gotta play 291 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: this because this is the route combination whatever, and I 292 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: think they're in a zone situation on that play. Yeah, 293 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: you got to tell your guys around you, like, this 294 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: is the playoff's coming. This is where you gotta make 295 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: My guess is used probably telling Josh cheat. I know 296 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: that you're in your landmark. I understand that this is where. 297 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: You're supposed to be Bengo, but this is. 298 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: The time where you can cheat the defense to give 299 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: yourself the advantage. And that's where savvy Vet's come in. 300 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: I couldn't figure yet that's perfectly explained. 301 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 5: How would you sum up Harry's twenty twenty five this far? 302 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 5: I mean, he misses the games on the front end, 303 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 5: and you see him and you have those moments like that. 304 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 5: This kind of plays in maybe to an opinion that 305 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 5: I have that could be right or wrong on Mittellus 306 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 5: and the year that he's had. But what do you 307 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 5: think about two to two year fourteen in Purple. 308 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 3: You know it's been okay. I wouldn't say it's been amazing. 309 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: I know that that it's been a strugg to get 310 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: back to one hundred percent and to play all all 311 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: snaps of the game at one hundred percent. You know, 312 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: we saw I think his playmaking ability really shine in 313 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 2: that Lions game. The way that he's able to dictate 314 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 2: the defense and be the catalyst for every pre snap 315 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 2: motion and movement. You know, he's elite at doing that. 316 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: Made some plays in the backfield. I think he's taken 317 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 2: a step back physically. You know, when he is either 318 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 2: in the tackle, the primary tackler coming in on the tackle, 319 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: like he's just not approaching. I think the ballcareer with 320 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: as much ferocity and violence as he once has, So 321 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 2: I think that's part of the game that it's been 322 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 2: missing a little bit. But from a a pre snap 323 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: savviness and intelligence, I think he's right there at near 324 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: the top. The physicality has probably waned a little bit. 325 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 5: So as a safety group in general, whether it's THEO 326 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 5: that's in and out, he's got the concussion that sounds 327 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 5: like he's going to be back, et cetera. Mittellus So 328 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 5: earlier in the season I kind of had an opinion 329 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 5: in that Mattellis was, I mean just bad luck central 330 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 5: from you know, you look at the Philly game and 331 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 5: that AJ Brown touchdown where Mattelis has him for a 332 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 5: few seconds, but he can't defend him for seven and 333 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts gets outside little street ball points it's deep. 334 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 3: It's a touchdown. 335 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 5: But I'm starting to see more and more moments where 336 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 5: Mittelis is kind of late to the scene where Mittelis 337 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 5: does have these instances where two two's pointing them in 338 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 5: a certain direction and he's just there's just something off 339 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 5: about his game. Am I reading that the wrong way? 340 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 5: Am I reading it the right way? Any any opinions 341 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 5: on that, because I think that that impacts that group 342 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 5: back there if one of them is off. 343 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 3: No, it certainly does. 344 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: It was with as much movement as we do and 345 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: disguise that we do with our safeties. Yeah, these guys 346 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: are really really important part of the defense and how 347 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 2: everything flows. 348 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 3: And you know, I think. 349 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: When when you're losing THEO and now Josh has to 350 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: kind of morph into a different type of role, I 351 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: do think that it's understandable where he's maybe not in 352 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: the same position as he was, and you know, he's 353 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 2: he's playing a little bit out of his normal spot 354 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 2: as a hybrid guy in the box guy. Now hopefully 355 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: he gets we get back to that, knowing that we 356 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: have three safeties healthy this week. But I think everybody 357 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: sort of knows at least, I never really saw Josh 358 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: as a straight man, demand coverage guy, you know, on 359 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: certain players. Sure, I think that he can match up, 360 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 2: But you look at that Aj Brown situation. That's a 361 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 2: big bodied, fast athletic wide receiver on a double move 362 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 2: in which he's he's playing the sticks in that moment, 363 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: he's playing the down and distance based on what the 364 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: game situation was telling us. It's a great call by 365 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: the offense to run a double move there, especially with 366 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: the matchup that they had. 367 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 3: That's a tough draw. 368 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 2: I understand that they won that one, but I also 369 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 2: understand what Josh was thinking. I'm going to play the 370 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: sticks real hard, not for them not to move the 371 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 2: chains in that situation, he gives up a big play. 372 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: I think that because of injury, he's been out of 373 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: position for the most of the season. 374 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 3: I'm kind of excited to see him back on Sunday. 375 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: What are some of the best routes to confusing Caleb 376 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: Williams Hmm. 377 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 3: You know, I think it really comes down to. 378 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 2: We just have to capitalize every time we get our 379 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: hands on him. I'm not so sure that we have 380 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: to drastically change our game plan against him. We did 381 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 2: a really good job of bluff bailing in our first game. 382 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 2: I think it confused him. I think that it did 383 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 2: what it was supposed to do. It messed with his reads, 384 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: it messed with his coverage. In his progression. Now, he's 385 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 2: a markedly different player now under Ben Johnson. He was 386 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 2: in game one, so we have to give him that credit. 387 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: But to me is we still were able to get 388 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 2: to him. We were still able to get into the backfield. 389 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 2: We were still able to do some of those things 390 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 2: and confuse their offensive line and their offense. We just 391 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 2: have to capitalize them bringing him down. That's a lot 392 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 2: easier said than done, because he's he is a Hoodini 393 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: back there. But like it's so for me, it's not 394 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 2: so much. Do we have to reinvent the wheel? No, 395 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think that we stay true 396 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 2: to who we are. You know, we might we might 397 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 2: change up some things here and then maybe have some 398 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: tendency breakers. Maybe we do a little bit more bailing 399 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 2: out so we get more guys in coverage and if 400 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 2: he does scramble in certain key situations, we have more 401 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: than just one guy trying to make an open field tackle, 402 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: but especially if Gernard is back and it sounds like 403 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 2: his shoulder and is not as serious and we're expecting 404 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: him back and we have Gink back there, which we 405 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 2: didn't have in the first game. 406 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: We need Grenard to practice today, even limited. It was 407 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: a d NP yesterday. But anyway, Yeah, very true. 408 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 2: But you know, I think that our defensive front is 409 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: well equipped to handle him based on our scheme, and 410 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 2: I don't think that we have to change up a ton. 411 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 3: Just win your battles and get the dude on the ground. 412 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 5: What has impressed you most about the Bears in this 413 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 5: six and three? I chronicled it on Tuesday. They're fifteen 414 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 5: forty one and one the opponents that they've beaten. Okay, 415 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 5: so it's like you're beating up on bad teams. But 416 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 5: I think belief makes them dangerous. That was kind of 417 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 5: the themal we talked about on Tuesday, and Jeff Joniak 418 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 5: their vox kind of echoed that earlier. 419 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 3: Today is just this team believes. 420 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 5: But anything that's just popped out, whether it's the running game, 421 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 5: et cetera. Just like man, I mean, these Bears are 422 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 5: kind of figuring it out. 423 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 2: The Bears to me get better as the game goes on. 424 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: And I think that's proven in some of the stats. 425 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 2: They're not a fast starting team. Caleb crushes the last 426 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: two minutes of every half. His second half performances as 427 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 2: far as air yards down the field is better than 428 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 2: it is the first half, and so I think nailing it, 429 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: and so I think that that's very impressive. And I think, 430 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: you know, you win on third down defensively, and they're 431 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: number two in the league and takes they have thirteen interceptions. 432 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 3: That's incredible. 433 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 5: The whole thing's insane. Plus fourteen in the take gif. Yeah, 434 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 5: you know the fact that they're sixth in the league 435 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 5: on third down interceptions itself. 436 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: On third down, they they will put you in those 437 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 2: really uncomfortable situations. And Dennis Allen, he comes in every week. 438 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: I've read articles where these players talk about how excited 439 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 2: they are to come in on Thursdays. They know that 440 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 2: Thursdays is our third down blitz day. They know that 441 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 2: third day, Thursday is the third down you know, creative 442 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 2: day where they find out something new that Dennis Allen 443 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 2: and staff has put together that they may not have 444 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 2: even seen. And they're like, he does such a good 445 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 2: job of pulling things out from five games ago where 446 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: we thought that that defense was put to bed or 447 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 2: that technique was put to bed, and he'll bring it back, 448 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 2: but then he'll have a different nuance to it. And 449 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: so that excitement level for these guys to get your 450 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: team into third and long, it's it's contagious with them 451 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: and they look forward to it and it brings fear 452 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: into the offense. And that's that is one of the 453 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 2: biggest key points that we have to go into this game. 454 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: We cannot be in third and eight plus, like cannot. 455 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: Everything that we can do to be third and three 456 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: or less is going to help us out because this 457 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: is where these guys feast. They do such a good 458 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 2: job with their disguised packages, they do such a good 459 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 2: job with their blitz packages, and they will take the 460 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 2: ball away when it's in the air. 461 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: The Chicago Bears have held opponents to seven of forty 462 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: six on third and long situations. Third and long would 463 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: be qualified here as six yards or more, second best 464 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: in the NFL. They're getting first downs, giving up first 465 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: downs fifteen percent of the time, narrowly behind the Green 466 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: Bay at thirteen. 467 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 3: That's an elite point. 468 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and I'll even take that a step further. 469 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: The stat I have is when they're third and eight plus, 470 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: they're holding offenses to a thirty nine point three passer rating, 471 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 2: which is the best in the NFL. Oh jeez, and 472 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 2: you look at us conversely on all third downs and 473 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 2: we're thirty first in the NFL. So our offense is 474 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 2: not good on third down regardless of the down of distance, 475 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 2: and they're elite at third and long. 476 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 5: Yes, sir KIDQB Game five, what do you think? Look, 477 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 5: I am dramatic pause. Well, it's calculated today. 478 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: I know he's gonna be calculated three to four thirty 479 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: on TV and then they're gonna have to cut a segment. 480 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 3: We got a big day to day on Twinsday. It's 481 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 3: our Thanksgiving show. This's a lot of food wine today. Yeah. 482 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, wow. I'm going in basically not eating lunch. 483 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: Can you make anything and bring it in or is 484 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: it all made? 485 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 4: Oh? 486 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 3: It's all being made. 487 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we have we have different people coming in 488 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 2: for every segment, different food item. 489 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 3: Yep, are you going to gobble up the gizzard? 490 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: I won't. 491 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,479 Speaker 3: I don't think I'll take part in the gizzard. 492 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: No gizard no, no, no, no, gonna get your hand up 493 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: in there to get the gizzard. 494 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 3: I like that dark meat though. 495 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: And you answer the question Finchy's we have Finchy in 496 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: seven minutes. We're messing around with getting up in there 497 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: looking for dark meat and gizzards. 498 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 5: You just got an extra forty five seconds to late 499 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 5: to put it all together. 500 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 2: Mentally smart move tap dancing a little bit. I'm very 501 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 2: excited to see what he can do. I really truly 502 00:23:55,720 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: believe that he takes every single snap and every as 503 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 2: a learning moment. And you you heard Kaos talk about it. 504 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 2: He was with you Pa when he talked about, you know, 505 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: looking at some of these these plays when they're watching 506 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 2: film together and he's answering the question before the questions 507 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 2: even posed to chaos. 508 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 3: He's like, Yeah, if. 509 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: I had that play over again, I'd probably you know, 510 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: I'd not take that second hitch there. He's like, that's 511 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: one hundred percent. That's what we're going to work on 512 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: this week. Like, I think that his his cerebral great game. 513 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 2: Is this going to continue to help accelerate his development, 514 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: not just like get better, you know, from one off 515 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: season to another. Like I think that we're bound to 516 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 2: see dramatic improvements in his game week in and week out, 517 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: and I think he's going to learn, Hey, when it's 518 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 2: third and six and you're stepping up in the pocket 519 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 2: because you feel in pressure, do you need to force 520 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: a ball into double coverage? How about you tuck that 521 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: ball down and you run for six or seven yards 522 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 2: and pick up a first down. That's that's as good 523 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: as anything else. So I think learning for him learning 524 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 2: to play the game a little safer, control the game, 525 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: game management part, stuff like that. Don't always look for 526 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 2: the big shot in the explosive play. Sometimes it's just 527 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 2: nice to move the chains and live to play another down. 528 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 2: And so I look forward to for him to play 529 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 2: cleaner football, better decision making in some of those critical moments. 530 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: You late, don't forget. Three to four thirty today, Channel five, 531 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: Twin Cities Live. 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The keyword deposit at kfan 545 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 5: dot com. 546 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 3: A writing find a new radio is back in the air. 547 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: Chris Bench, coach of the Minnesota Timberwolves, is set to 548 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: join us square shortly Bikings and Bears over the weekend. 549 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: That's at noon on Sunday on KFA N That'll be 550 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: a day after Chris Finch's team plays the Denver Nuggets, 551 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: second part of a back to back and lo and behold, 552 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: here comes the head coach. Now, Chris Finch, coach of 553 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Timberwolves. Thank you Second Harvest Heartland. Everybody go 554 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: to two Harvest dot org. Ce you can help, specifically 555 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: this time of the year, with Thanksgiving approaching, even just 556 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: a little bit dollar, five dollars, ten dollars really really 557 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: helps others. In need and you can learn more at 558 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: two harvest dot org. And here's Chris Finch, Chris Paul Allen, 559 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: good morning, How are you? 560 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 4: Good morning, Paul? I'm good. How about yourself? 561 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:44,959 Speaker 3: Good? Thank you? 562 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: I haven't so I know you get Sacramento in Denver 563 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,479 Speaker 1: and I don't know if you got somebody on Monday 564 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: that requires travel. But here's the point, is the media 565 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: relations con do it. Aaron Freeman, one of our favorites, 566 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: big time Chicago Bears fan bears, are at Viking this weekend. 567 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: Timberwolves have tickets that happened to be super sweet behind 568 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: behind a visitor's bench. So, yeah, you're you're an Eagles guy, 569 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm a Vikings guy. I mean, Freeman's team is six 570 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: and three. Is he getting loud over there? 571 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, he's getting real loud. He's getting real loud. 572 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 4: You know, wasn't wasn't so loud after week three? But 573 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 4: he's getting real loud. 574 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, And well just remind him before we move on, 575 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: it was the summer of free, not the winter of free. Okay, 576 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: So hopefully I heard all that. Now, you you didn't 577 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 1: let that Nick's loss ruin your birthday the next day? 578 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 3: Did you. 579 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 4: Tried not to, but you know, guys did a Guys 580 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 4: delivered with a resounding victory on the day after that. 581 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,719 Speaker 4: So all is forgotten and we moved forward. 582 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: But what were you doing at first have last night? 583 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: Was there like a big Prince cover band or something. 584 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 4: There was a Zach Zach low was in town with 585 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,959 Speaker 4: his podcast and it was his first ever live podcast, 586 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 4: and it was great Pat Cows, full of really passionate 587 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 4: Wolves fans and good energy in there, and myself and 588 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 4: John Krazinski from the Athletic as we all know, covers 589 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 4: us and then Dante DiVincenzo. It was just good, good time, 590 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 4: good vibes, lots of fun, fun laughs. 591 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: Now, now for those who don't exactly know who Zach 592 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: Lowe is or what he does, I mean, he has 593 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: like close to a million Twitter followers, uh, and and 594 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: I've and I've never met him and and I haven't 595 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: listened to any podcasts, but his presence is quite prominent 596 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: on social media and then the podcasting world. But like, 597 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: was Zach what what makes him so well respected around 598 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: the league? 599 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great question. Like, so Zach was formerly 600 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 4: at ESPN and now he's you know, with the Ringer 601 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 4: and he's started out as a writer, uh with with 602 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 4: the with Grant Land, and he's just an in depth 603 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 4: guy like he you know, he's a I would consider 604 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 4: an MBA expert. You know, he gets in the weeds, 605 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 4: he gets in the numbers. He used to have one 606 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 4: of my favorite columns, which was his weekly list of 607 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 4: ten things that he would make notice notice about the league. 608 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 4: A lot of it would be analytics driven or just 609 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 4: kind of crazy little trends or things that he found interesting. 610 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 3: Uh. 611 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 4: And that's what I love about him. Like, you know, 612 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 4: in a world where a lot of times we're talking 613 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 4: about anything but the game and what's going on in 614 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 4: the game. You know, he he always found a way 615 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 4: to bring his you know, articles back to like what's 616 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 4: happening in the game, not about you know, crushing players 617 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 4: or coaching decisions or organizational failures and all these other 618 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 4: things that seem to get clicks. Now. He wrote about 619 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 4: the game, and he writes about the game. Super smart guy, 620 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 4: you know, Dartford Ivy League educated, has a you know, 621 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 4: typical Northeastern kind of sense of humor. So I kind 622 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 4: of connect with that. And but yeah, I just found 623 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 4: him extremely you know entertaining and and also you know. 624 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: Intelligent, but's fantastic. Zach Lows the guy's name. He was 625 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: at First Avenue last night doing an on site podcast 626 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: in Minneapolis, and benchi and and Johnny Athletic and Dante 627 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: DiVincenzo and others were there. That's that's really really cool man. 628 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: All right to your team yesterday, I saw clip I 629 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: wasn't at the press conference or like the the post 630 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: or pre shoot around talk, and and you said, quote, 631 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: your team's defense is off the mat and now needs 632 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: to start swinging. Has that Has that coincided with the 633 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: return of Anthony Edwards. 634 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 4: A little bit? But I think it's you know, it 635 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 4: gives us another point of attack defender. Uh, But you know, 636 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 4: I think it's really going started with Rudy. You know, 637 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 4: kind of Rudy's awakening here. He's been extremely active, challenging 638 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 4: everything in his area, you know, Jade in his back 639 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 4: to you know, his normal self on and off the ball. 640 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 4: You know, I think those guys, you know, a couple 641 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 4: of weeks ago, we kind of called him out and 642 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 4: asked him that they had to be better, they had 643 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 4: to get back to who they were, and they've they've 644 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 4: delivered there. 645 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: So what you're saying is off that defensive question I 646 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: formulated Zach low would have started with Gobert and I 647 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 1: started with Edwards. 648 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 3: No, not at all. 649 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 4: Well, the timing is, you know, I mean, listen, Anthony 650 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 4: gives us so much personality. The other thing that's happened 651 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 4: that you know, at the same time Anthony came back, 652 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 4: Jalen Clark came back. Jalen Clark gives us some defensive 653 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 4: personality he makes things happen out enough, and another really 654 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 4: really good on ball defender. He's the possessions guy. He 655 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 4: gets gets your steals, he gets your fifty to fifty 656 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 4: balls and rebounds. You know, these things like kind of 657 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 4: go under the under the radar at times, but they're 658 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 4: always kind of going on no doubt. 659 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: And I think at the thirteen minute mark two podcasts 660 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: to go for Zach Lowe, he compared Jalen Clark's defense 661 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: as a new age fat leaver and t are done 662 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: specifically when it comes to on the ball. So that's 663 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: that's just beautifully laid out. I'm just learning so much 664 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: right now. 665 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 4: That's where that's where you have it over, Zach, Like, 666 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 4: that's not going back to the eighties references. 667 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that's ay. Gotta have something, man, 668 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: you know, you got three chins. Haven't felt my ribs 669 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: in thirty years. But I know who tr done is. 670 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: I mean, don't leave home without it. Go bear Rudy 671 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: Gobert ten blocks the last three all wins. 672 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 3: I mean, shot blocking. 673 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: There's more to it, I know, but shot blocking Rudy 674 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: is the best kind of Rudy, right. 675 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,719 Speaker 4: Absolutely. I mean, if he can, if he can block shots, 676 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 4: particularly early in the game, set the tone, create some deterrence. 677 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 4: You know, that's that's when we see him at his best, 678 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 4: and then you know it kind of pumps a lot 679 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 4: of energy into our defense as well. 680 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: And eleven into it. For you guys, Chris, you're at 681 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: forty one rebounds a game. Does does that number need 682 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: to increase? Forty one rebounds a game on average? 683 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. You know we're always looking at things 684 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 4: that on the horizon. Well, we don't have to look 685 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,959 Speaker 4: at the horizon. We have looked in the rear room mirror. 686 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 4: I mean, the Nicks crushed us on the on the glass, 687 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 4: you know, and you know even you thought, I mean 688 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 4: they're rebounding percentage was a little higher than expected. We 689 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 4: made a miss a ton of shots, but the volume 690 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 4: was they got sixteen offensive rebounds against us, So, you know, 691 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 4: it's it's something that we're trying to zero in on here. 692 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 4: Everybody expects big guys to rebound, and they have to. 693 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 4: But I'm a firm believer, like, you're not really going 694 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 4: to be a good rebounding team until you're small. You know, 695 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 4: your guards really rebound at a high level, and we 696 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 4: got to get more from you know, from them right 697 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 4: now on. 698 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: The glass Chris Finch Weekly nine to noon, courtesy of 699 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: Second Harvest Heartland two harvest dot org. Please take a 700 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: peek at two Harvest dot or. Chris is on the board. 701 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 1: Very important to him, It's very important to me. Most importantly, 702 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: it's extremely important to a lot of kids around the 703 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: country to harvest dot org. Now, the three point game, 704 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,439 Speaker 1: you guys are top eight and makes at fourteen a game, 705 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: but a little below midpack in attempts. So are you 706 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: looking for them to chuck up obviously responsibly, but shoot 707 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: more threes? 708 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 3: Are you looking for that? 709 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? I think you know, if we we've been creating 710 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 4: a lot of really good looks. I think there's a 711 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 4: few more to be had out there. Some of that volume, 712 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 4: quite honestly, is a little noisy when you look at 713 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 4: it statistically, just because you know, Anthony missed those four 714 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 4: games and that's probably forty three point attempts that we 715 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 4: didn't really replace, you know, maybe we replaced some version 716 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 4: of them. So there's some of that volume is a 717 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 4: little a little inaccurate. But you know, I think overall 718 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 4: we're doing some pretty efficient things. We have the number 719 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 4: one effective field goal percentage in the league, and that, 720 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 4: you know, points to the fact that we, you know, 721 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 4: are getting fouled, getting to the rim and finishing at 722 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 4: a high level. Rudy's eighty eight percent at the rim 723 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 4: in the last five games, which is pretty impressive, and 724 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 4: that's been another key to our offense. You know, we 725 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 4: came into the season wanting to try to unlock Rudy 726 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 4: a little bit more and find him a little bit 727 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 4: more when he's open, and guys have done that, and 728 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 4: you know, when you make four out of every five 729 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 4: down there, it's pretty good. 730 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: So if teams are high with ineffective field goal or 731 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: ineffective whatever you just said, does that mean they're shooting 732 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: a bunch of mid rangers and not get into the line. 733 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, generally, yeah, generally, it's it's effective field goal percentage 734 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 4: PA is literally just the it's the percentage you shoot. 735 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,280 Speaker 3: If you count threes. 736 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 4: You know, you give an extra half a point to 737 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 4: a three point shot made, so or an extra fifty 738 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,720 Speaker 4: percent rather not half a point, so it just counts. 739 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 4: It just takes in the account three point percentage yep, 740 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 4: where you're actually getting the extra point per shot made. 741 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 4: And then it also takes into account the points you're 742 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 4: getting from the free throw line, which aren't normally taken 743 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 4: into account into shot attempts. Like if you just look 744 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 4: at regular field goal percentage, if you get fouled, it 745 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 4: doesn't count as a shot attempt, but it certainly does 746 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 4: count into your overall offensive production. So it's just it's 747 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 4: they're kind of like bonus points when it looks at 748 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 4: effective field goal percentage. 749 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: All right, So Sacramento's here Friday than Denver Saturday. You 750 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: keep getting those nuggets second half of back to backs? 751 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: What what challenge does that pose especially against them when 752 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: no travel this time, but second part. 753 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 4: Of a back to back, well, you know that there 754 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 4: they're challenge no matter how and when and where you're 755 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 4: playing them. So, you know, I think we try to 756 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 4: focus on on on them and the things that we 757 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 4: can do and things we've tried to have success with 758 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 4: them in the past. We have a few different kind 759 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 4: of game plans, if you will. When you're on a 760 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,839 Speaker 4: back to back, of course, you know you you you, 761 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 4: you know, you want to have to get off to 762 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 4: as best start as you possibly can you generally, you know, 763 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 4: sometimes I'm back to back, the start can be a 764 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 4: little a little sluggish because just because the energy until 765 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 4: guys find their legs. But I mean said that, we've 766 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 4: been a pretty good second night of back to back 767 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 4: teams over the last few years. Uh, And it's not 768 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 4: something that we really talk about with our players, like 769 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 4: we you know, big believer that I like try to 770 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 4: remove all the obstacles and all the excuses of too 771 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 4: you know, along the way and then just go out 772 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 4: and play the game as it should be played. And 773 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 4: then you know, guys can't really lock in on something 774 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 4: like hey, I was tired. 775 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: What so so off Malone into Adaman now with a 776 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 1: lot of film, what what's different with the Nuggets with 777 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: David Adelman leading the charge? 778 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 4: Uh, you know, their offense is probably a little maybe 779 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 4: a little more fluid, you know, maybe less play calls, 780 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,919 Speaker 4: a little bit more concept based. Uh. You know, their 781 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 4: defense is really kind of what's driving them a bit 782 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 4: more at the moment. They they've got you know, they 783 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 4: went out and they they added a couple uh, you know, 784 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 4: plus defenders in in the off season, which is really 785 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:50,399 Speaker 4: helping their defense. You know, their offenses, when you look 786 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 4: at the numbers and everything, it's largely the same. You know. 787 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 4: Of course, Joki is at the heart of everything and 788 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 4: driving at Murray's off to a super hot start. They have, 789 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 4: they have kind of consistent shooting. They've done a really 790 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 4: good job of adding complementary skill sets to their roster 791 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 4: field a little bit like their their championship team, you 792 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 4: know when you look at the things that they have 793 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 4: and the things that complement their best players. But it's 794 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 4: really where their defense has kind of grown and they're 795 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 4: doing a good job there of you know, mixing in 796 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,319 Speaker 4: zone man. Of course, they rebounded at a really really 797 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 4: high level. Uh, and you know, they just they just 798 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 4: got better, better defenders, you know. 799 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: Lastly here, so that's Denver Saturday Target Center and Friday 800 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: Sacramento you beat Sacramento by twenty seven out there a 801 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: couple of games ago within the week that they are 802 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: three and eight. What what did you notice about them 803 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: that night? But because they seem to be in quite 804 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: the rough patch right now. 805 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're you know, they're going through it. You know, 806 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 4: every team at some point in the season goes through 807 00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,399 Speaker 4: it to some level. You know, they're obviously not off 808 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 4: to the start they want. They've they've been challenged a 809 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 4: number of times by their coach. You know, at some 810 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 4: point they're going to put it all together. They have 811 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 4: a lot of talented players. They have a lot of 812 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 4: guys who can really get going and you know, get 813 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 4: on a roll and almost beat you all by themselves. So, 814 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 4: you know, they've struggled through some early season kind of 815 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 4: injury consistency, mostly around the Bonus, who's a big driver 816 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 4: of the way that they play. Uh So, it just 817 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 4: doesn't feel like they've settled into who that they're gonna 818 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 4: be at. You know, and when you're playing teams like that, 819 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 4: it's really important that you kind of jump on them 820 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 4: early so you can continue to kind of maybe increase 821 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 4: some doubt in their mind rather than allow them to 822 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 4: find the confidence and who they are, because they are 823 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 4: a lot of really good and proven players, and those 824 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 4: guys just, you know, they just need to see the 825 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 4: ball go in and they just need to get their 826 00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 4: mojo back from doing their things. 827 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: Go Vikes, beat the Bears, Go Eagles, beat the Lions, 828 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: after you beat the Green Bay Packers, and we will 829 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: chat next week. 830 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 4: All right, that'd be a great weekend. 831 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 2: BA. 832 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 1: Thanks yep, see you, but thank you Chris. 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My 841 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 5: encouragement would be to go to Canterbury Park dot com. 842 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 5: My encouragement would be to tune into Thursday Night Football, 843 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,359 Speaker 5: Patriots hosting the Jets. The Patriots a chance to go 844 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 5: nine and two and they're catching the Jets. Post mini 845 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 5: fire sale you could say Sauce Gardner and Quinn Williams 846 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 5: going out the door, a chance traveon Henderson and those 847 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 5: Pats and Drake May your current MVP odds favorite to 848 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 5: improve to nine and two this evening in Foxborough. 849 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 3: He's fake. Yeah, you said that early in the week, 850 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 3: didn't you. He has favored to win the MVP. 851 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:13,399 Speaker 4: Yeah. 852 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,760 Speaker 5: As of yesterday he was todd with Matt Stafford at 853 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 5: three to one to be the MVP. 854 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: Drake May, what do you think you could have gotten 855 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: that into the season fifty to one. 856 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 3: After that first joint practice. I mean, yes, correct, So. 857 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: There's just with my opinion, No, there's somebody. 858 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 5: I think there's somebody sitting on a fat thirty to one, 859 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,879 Speaker 5: forty to one type ticket something like that. I will 860 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 5: say next segment that we'll we'll dig a little bit 861 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 5: deeper into that game, maybe from a fantasy perspective, as 862 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 5: Paul Charchion joins us, Yeah, and I'll just kind. 863 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 3: Of let me let me hit you with this real quick. 864 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 1: Okay, Patriots minus thirteen tonight. Yeah, so I don't know, 865 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 1: say we're in the seven oh two, we get there 866 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: at two in the afternoon. Yeah, that's on me may 867 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: not have an opinion on it, but we're there. So 868 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 1: Patriots minus thirteen and the over under is forty three. 869 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, how would you do well? I would probably give 870 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 5: the points at this stage. I just think at Foxborough 871 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 5: Jets cute little performance or at least an attempt, I 872 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,280 Speaker 5: should say a week ago post the moves and everything, 873 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 5: I just think they're a dismantled, awful operation. Got it 874 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 5: and I just have too much respect for Vrable at 875 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 5: this point, So just to have some action, I would 876 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 5: lean on the side of the minus twelve and a 877 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 5: half or thirteen, whatever it is, the Patriots winning by 878 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 5: two touchdowns. Looking at the injury report we will be 879 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 5: watching today. As Pa mentioned with Ben Lieber, Jonathan Grenard 880 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 5: did not participate yesterday with the shoulder injury. Chances of 881 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 5: him playing really depend on what you see today, so 882 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 5: limited in some capacity. You want number five eight on 883 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 5: the field in practice. You heard it during the presser 884 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,319 Speaker 5: yesterday with Kevin O'Connell. JJ McCarthy hit his hand on 885 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 5: a helmet on a play. I believe it was where 886 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 5: he threw that to Jefferson in the end zone as 887 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 5: Jefferson was going to ground and hit his hand on 888 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 5: a helmet, so he has a bandage of some sort 889 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,839 Speaker 5: on the top of his hand. It's been said by 890 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 5: all involved that that should not affect his ability to 891 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 5: throw the ball. 892 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 3: Russ Wilson, he's mister unlimited. We're mister limited. 893 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 5: Whether it's Will Fries, Aaron Jones, Ryan Kelly returning to practice, 894 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,280 Speaker 5: twenty one day practice window open, McCarthy, Mattellus, Oliver School, 895 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 5: Harry the Hitman, two hundredth game ahead, Van Ginkel So, 896 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 5: so health wise, it looks like eventually we'll find our 897 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 5: way to a mostly full group. Just really watching him, 898 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 5: paying attention to Grenard's status through the week. 899 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: And the the Chicago Bears, their Wednesday practice report was 900 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 1: quite voluminous. 901 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 3: It was, indeed. 902 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got who didn't practice for whatever the 903 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 1: reason for them. Kevin Byer, the third who's the bomb, Yes, yep, yeah, 904 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 1: the other safety, Jakwan Brisker, Key j Edwards linebacker won't play, 905 00:45:55,160 --> 00:46:00,760 Speaker 1: Brady Jarrett, DJ Moore, Roe of Doonzay Tyreek, Stevenson day Walker, 906 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,240 Speaker 1: and the tight end Cole Comet. 907 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 5: Holy cow, wow, busy list. So that bears mentioning. And 908 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,400 Speaker 5: of course we'll have more on that tomorrow during the 909 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 5: Friday Feast in Lakeville. But when we return from a 910 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 5: fantasy perspective, I'll charge Here gives us his thoughts on 911 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 5: games this weekend and the NFL looking forward to the 912 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:18,280 Speaker 5: final hour ahead. 913 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 1: We'll take you to charge around the corner on KFAM