1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,240 Speaker 1: Joby's already unhappy. 2 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 2: I just lifted his list, and I'm not happy because 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I thought I was two and o 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: last night I said I picked Arizona in the over, 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: and it's the saying I was going to. 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: I think we are final score seventy five sixty eight Arizona. 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: Well that's the final score. 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: I have a headphone issues. Give me one second, you guys, 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: go ahead. 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: No, that was the final score. Yep. I don't know. 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: Maybe I was mistaken. I could have sworn. Oh that 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: broke my heart. I thought it was set seventy eight 13 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 2: sixty five. Oh, and it was under. It was under 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: and over the under. Yeah, that hurts my heart. That 15 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: hurts my heart. Well, we are here on a Thursday. 16 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, we are here. I'm having uh, you guys hear 17 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: be just fine? Right, Yes, I'll uh, I'll effort this 18 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: in a little bit. For whatever reason, headphones are not working. 19 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: But no, man, we're I'm so I'm sorry sorry to 20 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: hear that you're unhappy with the record. But numbers are 21 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: you know? Math is math and I mean listen, one 22 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: to three is that impossible? It's Thursday? You used to 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: go some time. 24 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: I literally like celebrated last night. 25 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: Well that's what it is. It's okay, all right, well 26 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: at least understand like you thought. Yeah, things were yeah, 27 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: so okay, well yeah, I mean listen, you got two days, 28 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: you got today, get tomorrow, four coming up. Yeah, And 29 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: now this is one thing I will say for showing 30 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: the money is you might have to chase a little 31 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: bit tonight. 32 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: I'll go first, I go last. 33 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: Wait, we don't change the order. You can't. You can't. Okay, Well. 34 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: I see you do it all the time. 35 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, we'll change the order, just just 36 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: for tonight. Tomorrow we go back. We'll see yeah, we'll 37 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: see uh six six nine years or kid with commas. 38 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: I'll text line if you want to interact with the show. 39 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: We all sorts of fun stuff coming up here in 40 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: just a little bit. Want to Graham, make sure I'm 41 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: up here. Congratulate US Women's hockey winning the goal. There 42 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: we go we. 43 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: Albert pass color with the frets. 44 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 1: Ben kis cool. 45 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 3: Over coming here the United States. 46 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: Pretty cool stuff there. It's Kenny Albert with the call. 47 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: And yeah they were down one nothing quite literally for 48 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: the entirety. And then I saw the time goal and 49 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: I missed overtime? How could you miss that? 50 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: Great? I don't even know. I'm learning more about hockey, 51 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: and I could honestly say, you know, the misdirection from 52 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: the defenders and then shoots the putt back to the 53 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: left and then it's just like a fast break and 54 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: then the up and under and it just looked really 55 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: cool and it was obviously for the gold. That's something 56 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 2: you're going to remember for the rest of your life. 57 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: Although we should have done spoiler alert, my gosh, I 58 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: sorry have done that. Yeah, sorry, Deborah. Yeah, some people 59 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,839 Speaker 1: tweeted me this morning about that. That was really funny. Yeah, 60 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: so spoiler alert. Sorry after the fact. If you're taking 61 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 1: it for later tonight, it's a really good game. I'll 62 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: just say that. Maybe maybe just delete your brain for 63 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: a couple of moments. 64 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 2: For extra hockey. You know, you never know if you know, 65 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: no spoilers. 66 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no spoilers, we do. We don't do that all 67 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: sort of stuff you do now. You and I were 68 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: were vincing about this right before we came on, and 69 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: I kind of want to get to it right away. 70 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: The uh, the Chicago Bears threatening to move to Illinois, Indiana. Sorry, ye, yes, 71 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: moving out of Illinois to Indiana. Now, this is the 72 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: first time for something like this, Right, we just experienced 73 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: with Kansas City. Now they're still Kansas City, but they're 74 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: moving to another state. Right, We've seen Saint Louis move 75 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: to Los Angeles. We've seen examples of teams moving Oakland, 76 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: moving to the Las Vegas, so on and so forth. 77 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: Before we get into the part of it that is 78 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: really frustrating and pretty gross, I just want to shout 79 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: out our ownership here in Denver because they took over 80 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: and not only do they continue to invest in this 81 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: specific community, but there was never a doubt. There was 82 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: never a threat like availed threats even to say well 83 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: we want it this way, or we're gonna move. We're 84 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: gonna pick up sticks and we're gonna move out of here. Utah. 85 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: Looks nice a time to hear. None of that. They 86 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: didn't do any of that. They've only invested in here 87 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: in this community. They've only added to the stadium and 88 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: it's currently constituted. They're now building a new stadium in 89 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: downtown Denver. They're adding to the practice facility down there 90 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: as Broncos Park Power by Common Spirit. So before we 91 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: get into the frustrations about the way this is being handled. 92 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: I just want to first shout them out. 93 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,239 Speaker 2: There are owners that are doing at the right way. 94 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: There are owners who are using just their own money 95 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: to pay for it, which you should. You know, why 96 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 2: is it the tax payers you know issue when it 97 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: comes to a stadium when they don't see any of 98 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: the profits from from the games, they don't get free 99 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: seats to the games, you know what I mean? Like, 100 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: it doesn't make any sense to me because you're pretty 101 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: much holding a city or state hostage and saying, you guys, 102 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: pay for three hundred four hundred, five hundred million of 103 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: this or we're going to get up and leave and 104 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: move to a different state. If you can't afford to 105 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 2: build your own stadium, you should not be an owner 106 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 2: of the NFL, of an NFL team, plain and simple, 107 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: because these guys are. It's it's full on. Like we know, 108 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: we talked about socialism and all, that's exactly what this is, 109 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 2: literally corporate socialism. It's it's using taxpayer money to get 110 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: a stadium which they're not going to get any benefits 111 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: out of. But the owners of these NFL teams are 112 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 2: going to see all the profit, and it just never 113 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 2: has made any sense to me. Why we keep falling 114 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 2: in the same trap of raising our taxes for stadiums 115 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: that we don't get free seats in, We don't get 116 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: the go like you know, we don't get to go 117 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: to the concerts. We don't see any of that profit. Yes, 118 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: they're going to use the argument that it builds jobs, 119 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 2: it builds jobs, and it's going to you know, the 120 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 2: people in the and the businesses around during game day 121 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: are going to get a huge boost on game day 122 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: and whenever they host anything that still does not compare 123 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: to the tax money you're going to have to spend 124 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 2: to build that stadium for them. It just has never 125 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: made any sense. And there are and that's say I'm 126 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: happy there are good owners. There are you know Denver, 127 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 2: Stephen Ross and Miami. You have owners that will go 128 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: through and literally pay for the stadium. It's just not 129 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: right that any taxpayers should have to foot the bill 130 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: for a new stadium. It's never made sense to me. 131 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: Well, they're holding their city's hostage. That's what it feels like, right. 132 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: It feels like a scenario where you either give us 133 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: what you want or what we want or we're leaving 134 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: and knowing how crippling it could be. That's not even 135 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: just to be like a fan base, which is obviously 136 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: a big deal. We just talked about the jobs, the 137 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: jobs that are already there in Chicago that are built 138 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: around the Bears. And of course Indiana is gonna do 139 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: whatever it takes to make this thing happen. Why wouldn't 140 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: they because the injection of commerce, and they look at 141 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: it from that side of things, because they don't have this. 142 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: I mean, they have the cults right in Indianapolis, but 143 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: this is this has been handled. 144 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: That's right. 145 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: So as far as they view it is listen, we'll 146 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: do whatever you want because we understand it from that 147 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: side of things. Whereas again for the Chicago the Chicago community, 148 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: it's tough. And I just from an optic standpoint too, 149 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: Like I mean, you you went over I think you 150 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: said it perfectly like what it tends to mean from 151 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: like it can devastating. But the optics of billionaires telling 152 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: a community no, no, no, we need you to go ahead 153 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: and handle this for us, I just I think it's 154 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: very short sighted. That's all. 155 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: Well, the Chicago Bears owner is worth one point seven 156 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: billion dollars and if you can't once again, if you 157 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: cannot build a team, if you cannot build a stadium, 158 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: you should not own the teams will sell the team. 159 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: It's just not fair. And in a time where money 160 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: is tight, yeah, all over the country, you know what 161 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: I mean, money's tight all so we're going to our 162 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: solution is, let's build a new stadium. Unlet's add taxes 163 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: on to the people. And it doesn't doesn't make sense. 164 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 2: It doesn't sit right with me that these you know, 165 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 2: some of these teams are literally holding, like you said, 166 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: holding these cities hostage and pretty much demanding that you 167 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: paid for half of this or we're just going to 168 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: move the team. 169 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: On the text line here as someone from Indiana, it 170 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: will ruin that FRAMEANCHI, the quote unquote region is not 171 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: a place where millionaires want to live. Cleveland will look 172 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: like paradise compared to Gary, Indiana. It's also truly an 173 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: hour away from Chicago to traffic. And told so I 174 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: saw the same thing people sort of putting it together 175 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: on the map earlier today on Twitter, and yeah, it's 176 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: just it's sad. It's a very sad situation. 177 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: Well, you know, the Bear's practice facility is a good 178 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 2: forty five minutes north of the stadium in Lake Forest, 179 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: So you know, them moving an hour west isn't necessarily 180 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 2: a big deal to them, but who it is a 181 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: big deal to other people that's coming from Naperville, coming 182 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: from Rockford, coming for a game, and then now they 183 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 2: have to drive an extra hour and a half an 184 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: hour to get to that game, and it's just it's 185 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: just I think obviously it's a ploy to try to, like, 186 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: you know, force their hand, but I just think it'd 187 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: be bad business to move to the Indiana right now. 188 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: I feel the same way. So something that sort of 189 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: popped up earlier today because also want to get to 190 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if you. 191 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: Heard Drew Ski but that fake apologies. 192 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, thank you, Yes, So if you didn't. Year before, 193 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: Drew Ski on NFL Honors announcing Jackson Smith and Jigba 194 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: as the Offensive Player of the Year butchered his name 195 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: beyond the slur yeah, we can't, we can't even play it. 196 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: You can't, you can't and that and that's forever, right forever, 197 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: Like we've talked about before, it that's forever. Whenever you 198 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: talk about Jackson Smith and Jigba winning the Offensive Player 199 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: if even if it is his only time ever winning it, 200 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: you will always have You know, when you look back 201 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: at that clip, you have Drew Ski intentionally butchering his 202 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 2: name because you know before that they tell you how 203 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 2: to say everyone's name, They worked with you on how 204 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: to pronounce it. So he tried to make a joke. 205 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: It backfired at a lot, and most people had issues 206 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 2: with it because you took the moment away from JSN 207 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: And now you want to come back with an apology 208 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: weeks later. 209 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: Well, and it was not even really a great apology 210 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: because and I'll play the audio here because he in 211 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: a lot of ways, and I'll give you credit for this. 212 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: He acknowledges it was a bit. It was a comedy bit. 213 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: Like initially, when you're watching it, you're thinking that he 214 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: just messed up and he didn't understand and he didn't 215 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: know how to pronounce it, and it was just weird. 216 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: It was awkward. But then afterwards you told me, you're like, no, no, no, 217 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: that was intentional. It's like, oh, really, wow, that's terrible. 218 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: It's even it's almost worse. And so here was on 219 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: was this on Good Morning Football or what was this 220 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: on Grant I can't remember, CBS Morning, CBS Mornings, All right, 221 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: thank you. Here was Drewski explaining what happened. 222 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 4: It was the NFL Honors announcement of Jackson Smith and 223 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 4: Jig but getting the Office Player of the Year and 224 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 4: the mispronunciation of his name. 225 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: Sure, and people looked at it, which, by the. 226 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 5: Way, isn't the easiest name to pronounce it easy but yeah, 227 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 5: no sports, Yeah, yeah, no, I just you know, I 228 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 5: like to mess around, and you know, sometimes you can 229 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 5: go too far. 230 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 2: I even I even hit him up. And I and. 231 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: I, okay, I don't think most people I reached out. 232 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 5: I reached out and you know, congratulations to him the 233 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 5: team on the Super Bowl. I think that was an 234 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 5: amazing thing. And yeah, I didn't get no response. 235 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: Back, but I but I tried. 236 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 4: But your point is, understand sometimes I might have went 237 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 4: a little too far. 238 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 2: You know. 239 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna learn from it. 240 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, when we talked about walking the line of comedy, 241 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 5: you know, sometimes you do have to take that chance. 242 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 5: I think it's not all going to be a successful hit. 243 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 5: Nothing you do in anything, when you're trying to pursue greatness, 244 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 5: it's going to. 245 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: Be success and sex success, right, So, and I. 246 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 5: Think I think, yeah, if most people pronounce that name, 247 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 5: I think they will kind of fumble up, but I will. 248 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: Say you got you gotta wear that. 249 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. I I didn't like. I didn't even like that. 250 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: I didn't like. It's like, you know, as a comedy 251 00:12:58,720 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: bit that fell flat. 252 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 2: Excuses excuses to say my bad is all. 253 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: You have to say, And then he's like a reached 254 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: out he as it got back to be it's like 255 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: why would he? 256 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: And that's and that's where we are right now in 257 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: the world of entertainers. Is we're willing to sacrifice people's 258 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 2: personal moments for a clip you think might go viral. 259 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: And I think we need to reevaluate what it means 260 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: or who we offend or who you know, what we're 261 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 2: doing when we're trying to go viral. Is it your 262 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 2: moment or are you invading on someone else's moment? And 263 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: then at this point, and at this moment, Drewsky invaded 264 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: Jayson's moment. It's supposed to be like, look at this, 265 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: we're talking about him. We're talking about him in a 266 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: moment that's really all supposed to be about JSN. If 267 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: you couldn't say his name, say JSN, but don't don't 268 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 2: make that you know that BS, excuse it in beginning, like, well, 269 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: it's name is hard to We heard it because he 270 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 2: caught the ball over a hundred times, you know, we've 271 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 2: heard it a lot. 272 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: In seventeen hundred receiving yards. And they won a super Bowl. 273 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: They were in the Super Bowl. He obviously went on 274 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: to win Super Bowl, but they were in the Super Bowl. 275 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: You've heard his name. We're past that. And he was 276 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: a star in college to at Ohio State, and and 277 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: and then the clip there and then we'll move on 278 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: for this. But then the clip there, they were saying, well, 279 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: we know you're a sports fan. You're a sports fan, 280 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: you you know his name. You know his name anyways, obnoxious, 281 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: but I thought of you and I saw that clip 282 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: today because I was like, I know that you're you're 283 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: you're pretty upset, and I justifiably, and I don't know 284 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: if you know Jackson, but I think just on principle 285 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: because of what kind of season he had and what 286 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: kind of moment that was for him and his family, 287 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: and I truly believe, you. 288 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: Know, like if I like the look at situations, if 289 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: I was in that situation. How to be pissed like 290 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: that's a moment I get the as shoulder, my kids, 291 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: my grandkids, Yes, you know, and forever it will be 292 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: Drew Ski butchering on purpose. And that's the worst part 293 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: about on purpose, on purpose his name. 294 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I last thing I want to get to here 295 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: before hit the bottom of the hour, and we'll spend 296 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: some more time on this. The other side, I was 297 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: listening to a podcast today and they were they were 298 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: talking about quarterbacks. What are the best situation scenarios for 299 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: teams with quarterbacks? And they got to the Browns team 300 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: that you're very familiar with. They the guy says something 301 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: to the effect of like, well, you're obviously not going 302 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: to start Shtor Sanders, and I started to think about that. 303 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: They were saying, like, there's nothing you saw from him 304 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: last season that would make you want to believe that 305 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: he could improve. And I thought that was insane to me, because, well, 306 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: of course you'd like to believe me even if a 307 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: new new coaching staff and all that, that there's going 308 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: to be improvement, more time on task, right, give an opportunity. 309 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: But we don't live in that world anymore. Of the NFL. 310 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: The NFL choose you up and spits you up. We 311 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: don't do development with quarterbacks. We seldom even develop new 312 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: head coaches or new coaches. Like it's it's turning the 313 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: same names over and over again. So I wanted to 314 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: ask you, from perspective of a player in the league, 315 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: what's that like? What's it like with this mindset of well, 316 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: this year, this is our focus, and then this year 317 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: the next year might be a completely different focus with 318 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: a new coaching staff and a new quarterback, and you know, 319 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: we get all excited about this. In the very next year, 320 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: it's it's it's all different, and that maybe has become 321 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: more normal. But it didn't always used to be like this. 322 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: It's you know, it's a hard thing, I guess to 323 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: really go into because it's always an ever changing thing. 324 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: You know. It's one season you finished one way and 325 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: you could feel confident about everything that's going on. But 326 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: then obviously the next year, the upstairs obviously didn't agree 327 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: with you, and so they they swap out everybody. 328 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: So and robord turnover is not new that we're used 329 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: to that. 330 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: Especially when there's a new head coach. Usually about eighty 331 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: percent of the roster would be completely different. It may 332 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 2: be a little bit more. And so that's why you know, 333 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: it's expected when you you know, have a new head 334 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 2: coach or a new GM or some type of regime 335 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: changed like that. But the idea that especially you know, 336 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 2: talk about Shador and how then that guy must be 337 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: blind if he didn't see anything to build on, like 338 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: a rookie playing his first couple of games, you didn't 339 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: see anything to build on at all. 340 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like this is they're obviously going in a 341 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: new direction next year. 342 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 2: So for me, that just sounds like this guy has 343 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 2: a personal problem with you do, which a lot of 344 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 2: people in the media did, you know, especially last year, 345 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 2: you know, when it came to all the stories we 346 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: would hear about you know, Shadur in these meetings and 347 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 2: what I'm so, it's obvious that you know a lot 348 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 2: of the people in the media are still trying to 349 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 2: find ways to bring this kid down. Because that's one 350 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: of the most as nine things you can say is 351 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 2: that we didn't see anything that we possibly could build 352 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 2: on for next year. What are we even talking about here? 353 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: But when teams do move on and they do decide 354 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: to you know, have a whole new regime change for 355 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: the guys that are in the locker room that comes 356 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 2: and tells us that, like, you know, oh, are we 357 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 2: not competing this year? 358 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: Right? 359 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 5: Like? 360 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: Is this not anytime there's a quarterback change, you know, Elito, 361 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: anytimes it's new head coach, there's always a question of 362 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: are we going to be able to compete this year 363 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: because we're going to get rid of a bunch of 364 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: people and bring new people in there. A lot of 365 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 2: them are going to be rookies. Does this the reality 366 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 2: of it? Especially when you don't have cap space, you 367 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 2: have to rely on your draft picks and you have 368 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 2: to hit, and so the idea is, okay, are we 369 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: even going to be competitive? But then you don't know 370 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: until you get there and actually start practicing. 371 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: It's wild and you're seeing this disparity in the league 372 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: of the haves and have nots, And you know, I 373 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: was looking at the over unders for the season, and 374 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: we can get into the on the other side a 375 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: little bit more and you could just sort of project 376 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: out and some of them are going, you know, there's 377 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: gonna be a surprise here, and they're like the Patriots, right, 378 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: an example of a team and people didn't see them 379 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: going to the Super Bowl. I think some people could 380 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: project with Mike Rabel they might be improved, but they 381 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: were projected to be kind of bottom of the barrel again, right, 382 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: there was people that didn't see the talent on that 383 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: roster until it showed up and it had better coaching. 384 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: We'll see some surprises, Jacksonville. You were laughing them off 385 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 1: the other day. Well, that's the team that you know surprises. 386 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: They could also fall back to the pack this year. Right, 387 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: So there are going to be some ebbs and flows 388 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: to this thing. But the reality is there the haves 389 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: and have nots. It feels like that disparity is just 390 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: getting wider and wider, and it takes the teams that 391 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: understand what they are as a culture and they continue 392 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: to build things up in a certain way. That's the 393 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: teams that tend to do well versus the teams that 394 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: are just resetting everything all the time because they maybe 395 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,719 Speaker 1: they feel the pressure we have to reset because what 396 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: we did last year didn't work. 397 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, the rich just keep getting richer, that's right, but 398 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 2: also losing teams keep doing things that make them lose 399 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 2: the idea that you know, one of the biggest things 400 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 2: I say when it comes to like losing teams. You know, 401 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: if you're winning towards the end of the year, you 402 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 2: start taking things off of practice and trying to keep 403 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: you guys fresh. Well, if you're losing, you try to 404 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: make practice harder and that makes your guys more tired, 405 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 2: which which again doesn't help you on necessarily Sunday. So 406 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 2: when I say losing teams, is you keep doing compounding 407 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: things to keep losing. That's like another one of those 408 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 2: things where if we were winning, we'd be doing something different. 409 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 2: If you're winning or if you're losing, you shouldn't necessarily 410 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: change your philosophy on how you're going to take care 411 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 2: of your players. But you know a lot of teams do. 412 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: Have that, no doubt. All right, we'll finish that conversation 413 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: the other side. I'll tell you what the over under 414 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,679 Speaker 1: for the Broncos. At least you know February what is it? 415 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: Eighteenth over UNDERDS yesterday came out. We'll tell you what 416 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: that is coming up next. Kyle then Noy quite literally 417 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: throche Shelby here didn't have that on my bingo card. 418 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: We'll get to Kyle van Noy going after Shelby coming back. 419 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: Do you didn't even hear this? 420 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 2: I did not, Okay, I can't wait. 421 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: I can't wait. He actually didn't know. Yeah, it was 422 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: more of an omission. He was talking about how great 423 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett season was, and he talked about other defensive 424 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: tackles and he didn't mention the guy given the high 425 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: five to the ref right after. Do you know, Kyle? 426 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 2: No, Okay, not at all. 427 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: Okay, there's a little bit of voyage driver like part 428 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: of my job. And then there's like, I actually don't 429 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: want to make you know too many issues because they're 430 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna call him during the break and we'll 431 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: we'll get him on. We'll get him on right now. 432 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell him, like, hey man, this guy's talking 433 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: all sorts of noise about you. Five six, six nights. 434 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: Here's a KA with Commas Sprudal text line. Quick one 435 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: here says I just joined are we keeping vance Joseph? 436 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: Le Broncos are keeping Vance Joseph. He's gonna be back 437 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: extrare prey, excited about what the defense can do. Certainly 438 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,719 Speaker 1: gotta know what's gonna inside. Linebacker is going to look 439 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: like we talked about it. Yesterday say Alex Singleton probably 440 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: is going to be in the mix. Not so sure 441 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: about Drake Greenlaw, I would say not justin Schernad. They 442 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: might have to make a decision of safety. You know, 443 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: Brandon Jones might be one of those guys that they're 444 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: kind of on the fence a balve. Maybe they decided 445 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: to go in a bit of a different direction there. 446 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: But Talano, Hufanga, passer ten. The defensive line for the 447 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: most part, except for JFM edge rushers. I mean those 448 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: a lot of guess come back. We're talking about continuity. 449 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: That's a good thing. 450 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: Well yeah, and also it's a great thing to have. 451 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: I don't really know many areas where they have to 452 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: improve at where you really should focus on. Obviously, linebacker, 453 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: we're talking about it because you know, Alex Singleton is 454 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 2: a chance he could be gone. Drake green Law is 455 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 2: a chance he could be gone. So it's a little 456 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 2: bit of a question mark there. But other than obviously 457 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 2: running back that you know, we've been saying they need 458 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: another running back and then obviously another big time receiver, 459 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,959 Speaker 2: the rest of the roster actually seems legit and locked in. 460 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 2: You know, So if I'm in the Broncos. I'm you know, 461 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: do you just the idea and what you're thinking is 462 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 2: that is this one or two pieces and we're right 463 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: back competing on our way to a super Bowl. 464 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: But so this is exactly what we were just talking about, right, 465 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: the haves and have nots and more for anything, just 466 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: from an off season mindset of who you're trying to 467 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: be right and so the Broncos, and I'm not trying 468 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: to prop them up just because we're here in Denver, 469 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: but they're an example like the Chiefs, like some of 470 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: the other teams around the league that feel like they 471 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: are only a couple of pieces away as a team 472 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: that when you're on that roster, you know, as soon 473 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: as you show up for OTAs or mandatory mini camp 474 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: or eventually training camp, you know what we're trying to 475 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: do this year. You know what the expectations are. You 476 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: know who's on the team. For the most part, there's 477 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: gonna be a few new guys, but that's just the 478 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: league versus teams like Cleveland, teams like Atlanta, who's gonna 479 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: see some change. Obviously, the don't even know who their 480 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: quarterback is going to be. Two years ago they over 481 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: invested in a quarterback and now they don't know who 482 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: their quarterback is going to be. And I could go, 483 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: I mean, we go down the list of teams that 484 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: are in the Miami's another team with new coaching staff. 485 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: They don't know who their quarterback is gonna be. The 486 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: Jets have the same coaching staff, new OC Frank Wright, 487 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: but they don't know who their quarterback is going to be. 488 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: Point of it is, there's so many teams that are 489 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 1: resetting it and they're constantly like it's like a canvas, 490 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: like they just paint over at whites and then just 491 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: start over again. And I don't know how you expect 492 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: anybody to believe and sell to a locker room. And 493 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: this is why I have you here. Sell to a 494 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: locker room. We're trying to win this year. 495 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 2: Well, that's what OTAs are for, and that's what workouts 496 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: are for, is to build that confidence in your team 497 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 2: when you have that unknown, when you have that unknown 498 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 2: of you know, new quarterback, new offense, new head coach. 499 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: But then you start seeing the team work during OTA's 500 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 2: in the camp, you're like, you start to build that 501 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 2: confidence to that belief in your team. But and I 502 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 2: can say that too because when I went to Seattle, 503 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: I had no belief in that team hmmm, at all 504 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 2: on paper. I was like, oh, this seems the you know, 505 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 2: everyone's saying the least talented team in the NFL. And 506 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 2: then we get there and we start working and we 507 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 2: start seeing Geno like do his thing, and a little 508 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 2: bit a police starts to come. 509 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a bit of an unknown at that point. 510 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he's drafted by the Jets, but I'm like saying, 511 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: when he moved to Seattle, people didn't have very high expectations. 512 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 2: No, not at all, and so like, I've seen both 513 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 2: sides of it. But also it's nothing like a season 514 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 2: before where you've had success and the next season you're 515 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 2: just added going to that success. And so then when 516 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 2: you come into Okash, you come into camp, you know 517 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 2: what the objective is, you know what the goal there is. 518 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 2: We're not talking about conference, We're not talking we're not 519 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 2: talking about winning, you know, not winning the vision. We 520 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: want to win the Super Bowl. That is our goal. 521 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: And that's how you know it must in the Denver Broncos, 522 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 2: like when you come into OTA's in camp, Max, sure, 523 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: there's no more talk of you know, we're the underdog. 524 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: You know, we're sneaking up on anybody. That pluck is gone. 525 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: It's all about now, hey, guys, people know who we are, 526 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 2: and we got to go smack them in the face 527 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: when they know we're coming. And I think that's the 528 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 2: difference between the teams that have had success the year 529 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 2: before and then teams that are coming off of that 530 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: year and trying to you know, obviously right the ship. 531 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: So I don't know if you saw the win totals 532 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: that were put out DraftKings did this yesterday? Do you 533 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: want to guess that the Broncos over and under for 534 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: the season is nine and a half? 535 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, Because I remember they were saying that. 536 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: The Chargers and the Chiefs well. 537 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: And that crazy thing about the Chargers, and you know, 538 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 2: they don't get enough flack for based even we talked 539 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 2: about the Jaguars a lot about never living up to 540 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 2: that potential. The Chargers really haven't. And I get it 541 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: the because I still think Justin Herbert is a top 542 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 2: one of the top quarterbacks in the game, and so 543 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: every year that he's there, though, they're going to believe 544 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 2: that it's going to be the year they finally get 545 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 2: it right. That both their tackles will be back next year, 546 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 2: you don't like the old lines will be faced. But 547 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 2: for some reason, the Chargers just have awful injuries like 548 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 2: that every year. Every year they have literally the old 549 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: line gets beat up every year, you know what I mean, 550 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: it's a. 551 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: Corner they lose. 552 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: It's just it's it's not it's just not good for them. 553 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: But then also the chiefs alls just depend on when 554 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 2: Mahome's coming back. 555 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: That's a good point, you know what I mean. Hurt 556 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: very late. 557 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 2: We can say week one, but I don't know. You know, 558 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 2: that's easy to say right after the season, emotions are 559 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: running high. But when it's time to rehab and everybody's like, 560 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: let's be smart, you might be hearing more week five, 561 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 2: you know, such Sergeant season On peaked on the pup 562 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 2: list and then start playing. 563 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: I think that there's some interesting numbers here, and again 564 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: it's it's it's early February. I like, I know, I don't. 565 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: We haven't had free agency, we haven't had the draft. 566 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of reasons why some of 567 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: these numbers will shift, but I like it's a snapshot 568 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: of optimism or pessimism. The highest number on. Here is 569 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: is several teams. There are one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, 570 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: eight teams at ten and a half. That's right, Oh, 571 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: you got it up in front of you. That's gonna 572 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: surprise you with some of these. But yeah, eight teams 573 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: with ten and a half. So you got quicker fingers 574 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: than Dave when it comes to pulling things up. 575 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 2: A little younger. And my fingers aren't are broken from catching. 576 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: Past legitimately like Dave, he's got these massive myths, right, 577 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: but his fingers all like I'm telling you, like are 578 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: you pointing at me? Or like the wall? 579 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: His fingers are all messed up from catching passes. And 580 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 2: so my fingers are a little bit straighter. 581 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: Is that why you said you could beat him in 582 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: a catching contest? 583 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 2: My hands are just a little, you know, a little younger. 584 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 2: I couldn't have supple hands too. Then, So we'll see. 585 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 2: And I can't wait for the days. And we're gonna 586 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: record it. 587 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: Oh, I can't wait. 588 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: And we're gonna and the loser's gonna have to donate 589 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 2: somebody to charity. I can't wait. We're gonna make it, Uh, 590 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 2: we're gonna make it fun. 591 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna keep that drop. I can have supple hands too. 592 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: It's not just. 593 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: Supple hands, all right, I say what we come back. 594 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: I do want to ask you about something that not 595 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,239 Speaker 1: only those teams, the eight teams, but also the other 596 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: side of it, Like the teams are like the four 597 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: and a half of the five and a half, which 598 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: ones of those do you think to have the best 599 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: chance maybe to surprise like the Patriots did last year 600 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: with his long reach and supple hands. Logan was like 601 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: King Kong among cornerbacks. And you have the supplest nobody, 602 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: suppler than nobody, super than hands. Yeah, you gonna be careful. 603 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 2: I'm not soft all over. 604 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: Well, you do moisturize like you know. You've told me 605 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: that you moist. 606 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 2: Put Yeah, I'm talking. I'll put motion on multiple times 607 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: a day. I did not have supple hands too, exactly 608 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 2: from the those But when we do this, yes, we 609 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,479 Speaker 2: do this. I know when Dave played, there was not 610 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 2: such a thing as gloves. He didn't do gloves. Well, 611 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 2: I don't think they had them. 612 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: So are you gonna do gloves? 613 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 2: I don't need them. 614 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: I like, like I was like a personal front. I'm like, 615 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: you can do gloves like every other receiver. In the 616 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: league does and you're like, I don't need gloves. 617 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 2: I don't need gloves. I got the best hands in 618 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 2: the league. 619 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: Okay, well that's a nice tagline, except for your growing 620 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: up against the actual wide receiver here. 621 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 2: Because I know, but I'm hoping that the thirty years 622 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 2: from when he played will kind of make his hands 623 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: a little rusty. That's the hope. Now, he also is, 624 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: you know we all as we all know, a high school. 625 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: Football coach, and so he's around the game. 626 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: He's around the game. He catches a lot of balls 627 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: and the couch. I just need one day on the jugs. 628 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 2: I'll be right, you'll be right. I'll be right back 629 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 2: to this, which was one of these over runders. 630 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: So there are teams. We talked about eight teams with 631 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: the ten and a half. Then you have Las Vegas 632 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: five and a half, four and a half. You've got 633 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: let me see here, I'm trying to see there's a 634 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: couple of there's Cleveland six and a half, Caroline six 635 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: and a half, Arizona four and a half. So there's 636 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: two four and a half's Miami in Arizona, and of 637 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: course they both have something in common. Question marks about 638 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: who their quarterback is gonna be. 639 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I if I had the guests, And can I 640 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 2: even say it over? Am I allowed to? 641 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? 642 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: It's legal in Colorado? 643 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 2: No, but for me, I'm an NFL player. 644 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, you're just literally reading. 645 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: Assumed and I'm not betting at all. I'm not giving 646 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: any info. You know, don't come after me, please, NFL. 647 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: Well, you could frame it as teams that on paper 648 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: right now aren't projected to be. 649 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 2: Before free agency. Yeah, I could see. And just because 650 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 2: of who's the coach is down there, I think Miami 651 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 2: would have a better shot. 652 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: Like Jeff Hafley. 653 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like what his defense has done. And you know, 654 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 2: obviously they're going to have to go and find pass rushers. 655 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 2: They got Chop Robertson from Penn State. Still obviously Jalen 656 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 2: Phillips and Bradley Tubber gone, and but they still have 657 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: the inside. They have Zach Syler's there and so they 658 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 2: have they have their guys, and they just need to 659 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: get one more edge rusher. And I think that that's 660 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 2: how Halfley's defense really works, that they need pressure in 661 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: order for it to work. 662 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: So I think, well, on the officers side, they have 663 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: a Waddle in Devon Ham. 664 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 2: They guess they got they got guys, and I would 665 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 2: say they actually probably have more guys than Arizona does 666 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 2: right now, right now. But I was just and also 667 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: just in that division, you played the Jets twice a year, 668 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, well, unfortunately you have 669 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 2: to play the Patriots and the Bills. But I think 670 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 2: I could see the Dolphins win seven. 671 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: Okay, I mean it feels like they were maybe a 672 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: Shelby Harris away from really contending. 673 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 2: I think every team on here's when you know when 674 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 2: total will go up at least two with Shelby Hairs. 675 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens tend to have twelve and a half of 676 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 2: Shelby Harris. So if Denver Uncle's nine and a half, 677 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 2: I was eleven. Actually, I say super Bowl me with shows. 678 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: I like that we have some textures. Say I wish 679 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: Shelby could go back to Denver people. 680 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 2: I know, you know that would be nice because obviously 681 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 2: I live here and it would be the greatest thing 682 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 2: for my family, but obviously you got to keep your 683 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 2: options open. 684 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: It is also a really good defensive line room. 685 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 2: And I enjoy, as you know, I enjoy playing for 686 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 2: the good d Lineman right makes my job a lot 687 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 2: easier and honestly, once again, I want to win. I 688 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 2: want to win. 689 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: Most competitors do, and. 690 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 2: Is Denver Broncos team definitely looks like they are set 691 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 2: up to win. 692 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: We mentioned the Baltimore Ravens and their new offensive coordinator 693 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: who's familiar name here in Denver, Decklan Doyle. He has 694 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: a very interesting thing to say about OTAs and having 695 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: championship standards and then it only exists if you go 696 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: to OTAs. We'll hear from him coming up next.