WEBVTT - The Morning Show w/ Thom Brennaman -- 12/1/25 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.880 Finantial throwdown from a Wall Street heavyweight. 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:07.960 This is the Bloomberg Money Minute on seven hundred WLWI. 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:11.360 Alrighty, we say good morning to Athens, Ohio's very finest. 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:15.120 Dan Schwartzman from our Bloomberg newsroom in New York City, Danny. 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:21.000 Bitcoin continues to sink while some precious metals continue to rise. 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:24.160 That is correct, tom Bitcoin starting the new month under 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:26.920 pressure once again after losing almost seventeen percent of its 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:29.760 value just in November. Traders say a key support level 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:32.479 for bitcoin is eighty thousand dollars, with the token currently 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:35.159 well under it's October high of over one hundred and 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:38.360 twenty six thousand dollars. It is right now at eighty 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:43.280 just over eighty six thousand dollars and thirty cents well. 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:45.160 Silver trading at a record this morning. 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:48.160 The trader's placing specuative bets on the white metal given 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:51.080 ongoing supply tightness. Meanwhile, copper advancing to a record high 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:53.640 in the London Metal Exchange on fears the global market 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:56.200 is heading for a supply crunch. But how a Bitcoin 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:59.800 down from one twenty six to now eighty six thousand dollars. 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:00.240 Okay, Dan? 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:03.480 Meanwhile, Coca Cola getting sued by the estate of a 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:04.679 music legend. 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:07.919 Who's that the estate of Johnny Cash, claiming Coca Cola 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:10.520 created an ad campaign featuring the voice in the legendary 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:14.399 country star without authorization or compensation. The ad campaign, launched 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:16.880 in August, features a recording of a male singing voice 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:19.880 that quote sounds remarkably like the voice of Johnny Cash, 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:23.440 with consumers expressing confusion on social media. I remember the 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.040 ad and I thought it was Johnny Cash away. 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.280 Wow, yeah, Okay, well I can understand why then they're 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:32.000 showing him. Meanwhile, the futures this morning, whys check, they 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:35.039 were down, Oh, still down, my friend, Dow's down four 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:38.080 tens to one percent, Nasacs down one percent, SMP currently 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:41.400 down seven tenths of one percent. From Bloomberg Dan Schwartzman 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:48.240 on news Radio seven hundred WLW. Always a pleasure to 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:51.880 be joined by our business insider Greg Steben. You can 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:55.040 follow him on Bluesky at Greg g r E G 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:58.560 g Steben ste b as in boy bas and boy 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:02.120 E N and we call them the busines Insider. But 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.200 all we've been talking about for a few weeks is 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:08.320 AI and we continue that topic here today. So for 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:10.840 the next five weeks, most of us will have or 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:13.440 hope to have a little EPRA time off from work. 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:18.239 And you're suggesting this year to give the gift of 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:23.160 a I. How and why do we do that? 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:26.040 Well, so, yeah, we're most of us are going to 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:27.920 get a little time off between now and the end 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:29.600 of the year and between now and Christmas, and some 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:31.480 of that time is going to be used to do 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:36.240 some holiday shopping. I'm saying your holiday shopping could already 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:36.680 be done. 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:38.760 You could just give gift of AI. 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:41.799 And yeah, I'm kind of kidding about that, but I'm 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:46.360 also not really kidding. Let's say you decided you're going 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.640 to give everybody on your gift lifts stump form of 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:53.840 gift of AI. You'd probably use AI to figure out. 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:54.359 How to do that. 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:59.440 Sure, but also let's just say the predictions about AI 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.840 for you to change everything. And you were the one 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.440 at the end of twenty twenty five who came along 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:07.800 to everyone or in your life around you and said, 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.240 let's buckle down figure this thing out. 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:12.320 You might be giving them the. 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:15.160 Greatest gift they ever received, which is brighter future than 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:16.880 if they just bury their head in the sand and 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:17.360 ignore it. 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.800 Okay, Well, if you're going to give someone the gift 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:23.480 of Ai, how would you go out doing that? 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:25.480 How would I do it? 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:25.919 Yep? 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:27.120 I would use AI. 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:34.320 I would open up an AI platform, Gemini or Perplexity 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:37.880 or chat GPT. I would type in I want to 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:40.560 give everyone I know the gift of AI this holiday season? 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:41.760 How should I do that? 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:45.600 And it's going to pound out what we can give 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:48.520 a gift certificate, I mean, explain that people who know 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:51.040 nothing about this but they're trying to learn about it. 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:52.880 We try to walk them through that a little bit 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.880 during our segment each and every week about you know, 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.640 fooling around with it, playing around with it, asking some 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.720 simple tasks, see the results going from there. But if 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:03.760 you're actually going to give it as a gift for 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:07.320 somebody to open in an envelope, whatever, how and where 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.800 would you go about actually giving them that? 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.320 Well, I mean I am actually serious, open some AI 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:15.560 platform and ask them how to do it, because this 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:18.320 is exactly the kind of thing AI excels at. Is 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.520 it get there's information and presents it to you. I mean, 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:23.520 at the end of the day, Yeah, I think you're gonna. 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:25.880 Give people they're gonna I would. 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:28.960 Use AI to create gifts or tickets for AI. Now, 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:31.280 there are lots of wall you could do that. You'd say, look, 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.880 an AI subscription generally around twenty dollars a month. 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.680 I might say to people it depends on your budget. 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:39.280 I'm giving a year of. 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.320 A particular AI platform, or you. 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:45.400 Know, let's say your dad's an accountant tool, go find 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:46.479 an AI platform. 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:48.120 That's four out the accountants. 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:53.200 There are hundreds of AI platforms. I personally, I'm going 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.240 to give everybody in my life a subscription to the 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:59.520 same AI platform, so we're all using the same platform. 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:03.000 I'm gonna get everybody somewhere between three months and six 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.560 months or twelve months of access. We're all going to 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:08.919 have access to it. And every time I talk to 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:10.680 everyone i've given this as a gift, I'm going to 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:13.320 say have you used your AI platform? 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:15.679 Or they call me say I need your advice, I'm 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:16.240 going to say. 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.279 Did you be looking it up on And it's probably 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:20.560 going to be perplexity, just because that's why I use 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:24.240 There's no rules to this, but the first rule, if 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:26.960 there was a rule, should be use AI to figure 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.279 out how to do it, because I want you to 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:31.520 start using AI too, not just the. 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:32.320 People in your life. 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:34.800 Okay, now, how about this idea. You tell me if 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.880 this makes sense. If you're a manager in your company 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:41.200 or you're a small business owner, would you thank God 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:42.360 giving you it to your employees? 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:46.440 Yes, Now that doesn't mean you don't also give them 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.320 the gift you normally do. But I think you might 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:51.039 look at this or if you have the kind of 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:53.200 relationship with your people that you can sit us with 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:56.520 twinkle in your eye, you might say to them, I'm 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.480 kind of giving you the gift of the future by 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.640 giving you the Todai. You don't want to say that 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:04.359 as a threat, but if you can say it in 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:06.440 a joking way and people kind of go like, I 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:14.440 think you're just serious, because yeah, because this really could 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:16.120 be the greatest gift to you. If you have people 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:18.560 in your life who are resisting this, and you may 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:24.040 be resisting it. Just making something fun, something silly. It's 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:27.960 just the idea, but also something that people think about 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.680 doing together. You know, you had a Christmas party where 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.440 you tell everybody to bring a lapop. 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:34.279 Computer or a phone, huh, and you all. 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.160 Play kind of a game of trivia sitting around the 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:39.360 table and everybody uses AI to you know, figure out 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:41.240 what the game is. You know, you might say to 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:44.039 yourself and people around you for a month, let's never 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:46.719 use Google every time we have a question. 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:50.400 We would normally oh, I'll google that, let's AI instead. 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:52.359 Oh and look, we all have a sscription to an 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:53.080 AI platform. 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:54.279 Let's figure this out together. 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:55.560 That's what it's going to take. 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.000 The master AI is just using it. 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:00.760 So I'm just looking for ways to get people to 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.880 get a fun way embrace it and use it and 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:06.640 try it, and even if you fail, you still learn something. 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:08.080 And that's really the point. 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.200 All Right, Let's be the Brench for a minute, because 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:13.040 the Grench always shows up around Christmas time, right, the 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:15.400 TV show shows up every year a year after year, 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:18.120 forever and ever. What do you think are the possible 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:22.080 consequences if we just say ah bah humbug to AI 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:24.840 this holiday season instead of taking the time to a break. 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:29.080 Well, you could lose your job, you could. 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:33.520 That's a nice lose your chance at advancing in your company. 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:37.000 You could have a real impact on your family economically. 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:42.400 And think back thirty years or twenty five years ago 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:45.000 to the pew in your life who never got any 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:50.040 Internet training. They became irrelevant. 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:52.200 That's the consequence. 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:55.200 Okay, all right, I have a great rest of your day. 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:56.640 It's great to hear. 0:07:57.320 --> 0:07:59.480 Here's the news to help you get it. 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:04.880 This is the Bloomberg Money minutes on seven hundred WLW. 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:08.320 This is a Bloomberg money minute. Eli Lilly is cutting 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.360 the price for introductory doses of its weight loss drug 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:15.640 Zepound again as competition heats up with rival Novo Nordisk. 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.880 Starting today, the lowest dose via will cost two ninety 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.400 nine a month for those who pay cash. That's a 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:25.320 discount of about fifty dollars. 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And a 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.520 lot of shoppers were underwhelmed by Black Friday promotions, with 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:52.560 some noticing fewer Doorbuster deals in freebies and saying the 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:56.520 deals were not as good as in previous years, brands 0:08:56.559 --> 0:09:00.560 popular with younger shoppers and on TikTok, such as Brandy Melville. 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:04.480 We're bustling with shoppers despite not having eye popping discounts. 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:13.720 I'm John Tucker, Bloomberg Radio. 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:14.200 Friday eight forty on your Monday morning. Hope everybody had 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:17.319 a great Thanksgiving weekend and time to get back up 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:19.839 and at them. And every single Monday we get together 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.560 with the Hall of Famer. We call it Mondays with Marty. 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:25.800 Marty Brennaman, Good morning. How was your holiday weekend? 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:29.440 It was okay, I hope yours was well. 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:29.800 It was great. 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.320 It was nice seeing you guys last night over a 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:34.000 fifty bus cheeseburger. 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:37.920 Yes, sir, yeah, I mean give them a little outstanding. 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:41.080 They do such great work over there, not only their product, 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:43.240 but they do great stuff I know with the Marymont 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:45.240 Schools and that for a long long time. And we're 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:49.040 appreciative of Bob's slattery in that group for that. Okay, 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:52.439 the biggest story I like to call these things water 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.880 cooler talk, right, and you know, look for men who 0:09:55.960 --> 0:10:00.760 follow football, especially college football, this lane kept and for 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.720 those that don't know what I'm talking about here, generally speaking, 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:06.960 here's a deal. Lane Kiffin is the football coach. Was 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:11.600 a football coach until last night at Ole Miss. They've 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:13.760 had the best season in the history of the school. 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:16.959 They've won eleven games, they've only lost one. It looks 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:19.720 like they're guaranteed a spot to play starting next week 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:24.920 in the college football playoff. Kiffen has decided that he 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:29.680 is leaving to go to LSU. He is taking nine 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:34.120 coaches with them. I want to start before I get 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:37.960 into all of that the other stuff. What were your 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:42.200 thoughts about Kiffen leaving at this point in time. 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.560 Well, I think it applies to a lot of coaches 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:49.640 tom in the past. Brian Kelly is a prime example here. 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:53.400 I've been no big fan of his at all. The 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:58.079 timing of all of this is terrible, you know. You 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:01.160 see football seasons come to an end, and now teams 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:04.120 are firing. Our schools are firing coaches and they're looking 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:07.320 to hire others, and always their certain favorites because of 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:10.160 the success they've had at the school they currently coach at. 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.640 Kiffin is a prime example. You have to go more 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:15.880 often than not, sometimes you have to lie to your 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:19.839 fans in the school that you're leaving as Kelly did 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:24.120 and end up going. And then if you go, if 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:26.760 you're hired right away, which they most of them are, 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.200 then you have to leave right away. And if your 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:32.080 team is in the postseason, more often than not, you're 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:34.200 not going to be allowed to hang around and coach them. 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:38.280 Just it's a mess. I would hate to be placed 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:41.240 in that position, because I think a man's integrity is 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:44.040 brought to bear. I don't think any worse than this 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:47.760 Kiffin situation, which has been a soap opera from the 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:48.160 get go. 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.520 You know, the one thing about the guy you talked about, Kelly, 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:53.480 I mean, he left and didn't even have a chance 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.200 to talk to his team. And I think that's what 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:57.960 angered people around here more than anything. Not that he 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:00.400 left Cincinnati to go to Notre Dame, but because that's 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.120 a slam dunk, it's a fact that he left. It 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:06.199 didn't have a chance to talk to his team. Kiffin 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.520 was scheduled to talk to his team and after sitting 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.840 down with the president of the university and the athletic director. 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.199 And this is a topic I want to get into now, 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:17.080 and then we'll get to the whole calendar thing in 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:21.240 a minute. But what were your thoughts? Kiffin apparently really 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:26.640 pitched the AD hard hard on letting him coach. However, 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:30.240 Long Old Miss lasted through the playoff, and apparently, by 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:34.240 all indications, LSU was okay with that. Even though you 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:38.520 have the national signing date for high school players this Wednesday. 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:43.880 The transfer portal unbelievably opens up during the college football 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:47.360 playoff while it's going on. But Kiffin wanted to stay 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.520 and coach the team the rest of the way. The 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:53.240 AD said, not a chance. Do you like that decision? 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:57.880 No? I don't. No, I don't like it at all. 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:01.280 I mean I once again, it's got to do with 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.720 the hypocrisy dealing with the kids. You know, they always 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:06.920 say this is all about the kids. The hell it is. 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.640 It's not all about the kids. If it was about 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.080 the kids, then he would have been allowed to stay 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:14.240 there and coach. Now, I agree, you and I talked 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:17.200 extensively about this last night. Uh. It could have been 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:21.839 a possible commercial for Louisiana State. Uh. It could have 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:25.160 been the threat that they feel they meeting the officials 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:28.960 at Ole Miss with him trying to convince kids to 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:31.760 come into the portal and leave Miss ill Miss and 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:35.880 go to the LSU. But here they are on the 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.719 on the verge of the greatest moments in their in 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:42.520 their history. Uh, these kids, and now it's a terrible 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.840 taste in their mouth. I read a piece in the 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:48.000 Inquiry this morning about how the blood is so bad 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:51.520 down there relative to from the kids to Delane Kiffen 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:55.160 in the manner in which this whole thing has gone down. Uh, 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:59.560 it's just it's an absolute College athletics is an absolute mess, 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:01.760 and I'm blue the NCAA for a lot of it. 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.200 You know, the thing about the NCAA is so Dad, 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:07.160 you and I both know. You know, once they started basically, 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.800 you know, the the BCS stuff, and now they've moved 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:15.120 into the college football Playoff stuff. I mean, even though 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:19.280 when it comes to certain rules and regulations, yes, the 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:22.880 NCAA is in charge, but at the same time, the 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:28.280 College Football Playoff as it's branded, pretty much runs itself. 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.720 And it just seems like there is no direction from 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:35.040 them to try and change his calendar because they know 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:38.440 every single year that this kind of thing, the possibility 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:40.680 of it happens. I mean, we saw the guy at 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:44.480 Marshall last year. He ends up leaving Marshall before the 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:48.000 bowl game, so many kids decided to transfer out that 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.400 they didn't even have enough players to play in a 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:54.880 bowl game. And so, you know, you know the flip 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:57.240 side of all of this, And I'm curious your thoughts here. 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:00.040 I mentioned that the transfer portal opens up while the 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.800 college football playoff is going on. But let's just take 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:05.120 a team like South Florida. Let's pick them because they've 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:09.000 had a really nice year. Alex Golis yesterday officially left 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:13.760 there to go take another job. But these kids that 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:18.040 are even in a regular quote unquote bowl game, all 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:20.600 of a sudden, you know, they're looking around and going, 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:22.920 who in the world is going to coach this team? 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:25.560 But at the same time, Dad, if they want to 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:27.640 pick up and leave and sit out of a bowl game, 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:30.520 We've seen a lot of players do that in recent years, 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:33.000 where they you know, whether it's for the NFL Draft 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:36.920 or because they plan on transferring somewhere else. I mean, 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:38.440 they can leave, why can't the coach. 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:44.680 I can disagree with that. That's the reason why somebody 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:47.080 with some measure of intelligence, and I think there's scar 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.960 a few of them, can sit down and try to 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:55.880 hash this whole thing. Out transfer or postponed to a 0:15:56.160 --> 0:16:00.680 later date. The transfer a portal situation. There's no reason 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:03.200 on God's earth why you can't do that. They either 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.160 leave now or they leave a month from now. With 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:08.920 the acts of difference, I just think that that there 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:13.760 are ways to make work, and far smarter people than 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:17.000 me to get involved in say how they should do it. 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:19.400 But there has to be a way of making this 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:25.040 a more palatable situation for the players, for the coaches, 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:28.560 for the university officials. There's got to be I mean this, 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.880 when somebody first labeled this a Wow wild West, that's 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:34.480 exactly what the heck it is. I mean, in every 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:38.640 sense of the word, every aspect of your program is touched, 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:43.280 Every aspect of your athletic and collegiate community is touched, 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:47.400 and most of those touches are negative touches. It's just 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:50.320 an absolute unmitigated mess. You know. 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:54.200 Meanwhile, there was a fascinating article written just this morning 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:58.040 about Ryan Day, the head football coach at Ohio State, 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:02.280 and the way that he and his program have been 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:06.840 trending here over the last number of years. Obviously, we 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:09.000 know they're number one in the country, they're undefeated, they 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:12.040 won the national championship a season ago, and a lot 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.320 of people you know, for years thought Kirby Smart, the 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:18.280 guy Georgia, was a guy who really had the strongest 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:23.879 resume in the sport. And this article suggests that Ryan 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.639 Day over the last seven years, whether you're talking about 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:31.600 his recruiting, hiring his coordinators, giving up the play calling, 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:33.879 which he did two years ago, last year when they 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:37.480 won the championship, lost his offensive coordinator and now gives 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:40.399 it to Brian Hartline this year, whether you're talking about 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:43.639 his graduation rates, whether you're talking about his players not 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:47.640 getting in trouble off the field, that he is now 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:52.159 becoming the guy in college football, and of course it 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:55.200 helps that you finally beat Michigan. What are your thoughts 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:56.359 on Ryan Day. 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:00.760 I'm a big fan of Ryan Days, A big fan 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:03.560 of Ryan Days for a number of years. I know 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:07.680 some of these Ohio State fans and I say this, well, 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:09.959 people believe you understand. I'm a big fan of Ohio 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:13.600 State football. Obviously I didn't go to school there. I 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:15.960 love the way they played. I fell in love with 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.520 it when Irvin was coaching there, and I think Ryan 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.720 Day has stepped and he's done a marvelous job. He's 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:23.680 not a guy that shoots his own horn. You don't 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:27.119 hear a whole lot from him other than the football season, 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:29.000 And if you hear anything from him, it's because somebody 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:31.639 asked him a question. He has no opinions on anything 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:34.880 unless somebody ask him. He goes about his job coaching, 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:37.760 and coaching very well the Ohio State football team. But 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:41.040 these fans who wanted him fired in the event that 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:43.360 he worked to have lost to Michigan, which he beat 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:47.119 the hell out of them on Saturday, I have a 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:50.920 problem with that. To me, it's the greatest rivalry in 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:53.240 collegiate sports. I used to think he was Duke in 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:56.800 Carolina and basketball, not anymore. I think it's Michigan and 0:18:57.119 --> 0:19:00.639 Ohio State. When it comes to collegiate rivalry. There is 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:04.960 nothing bigger than that. I think the guy's a marvelous coach, 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:07.920 I really do. I think he does everything the right way. 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:12.439 Whatever system he's got going for him. He loses very 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:16.399 few kids to a portal. He always going to lose 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:18.520 some because he's always going to have such a great 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:20.960 football team that if they're going to be players better 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.480 than others and they can Joe Burrow is the best 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:27.080 example in the world. That's before Ryan Day. But no, 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:31.679 I think I think if somebody wrote an article extolling 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.919 his virtues as a collegiate coach and maybe being the 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:37.720 best in the country, I'd be hard pressed to argue 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:39.600 that against that completely. 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:43.480 Yeah, I mean that record eighty two and ten is 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:47.840 just absolutely mind bodily. Okay, all right, I need a 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:50.480 little I need a little I'm not going to say advice, 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:52.840 but I want to get your insight on something because 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:54.880 my wife has been giving me a very hard time 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:55.360 about this. 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:56.000 Okay. 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:01.120 I did not go Tohier State, Okay, but I, as 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:03.000 you know, I don't know if there's a bigger fan 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:05.399 of Ohio State football than I am. I mean, I 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.439 live and die with every play. I love them. I 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:11.960 fell in love with them because they're my home state's 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:15.359 team and it's just been going on for decades and 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:18.720 decades and decades. All right, But I have no skin 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:20.600 in the game when it comes to Ohio State. I 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:24.000 didn't go to school there. As you know, your grandson, 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:28.919 my son, Luke, is a student and is a broadcasting 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:33.320 major there at Indiana University. And those two teams number 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:35.280 one against number two will play in the Big Ten 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:40.040 championship game this weekend in Indianapolis. My wife Polly is 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:43.520 giving me a really hard time that I would be 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:47.160 rooting for Ohio State and not Indiana. Now, Luke says, Dad, 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:49.760