1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Finantial throwdown from a Wall Street heavyweight. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: This is the Bloomberg Money Minute on seven hundred WLWI. 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 3: Alrighty, we say good morning to Athens, Ohio's very finest. 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 3: Dan Schwartzman from our Bloomberg newsroom in New York City, Danny. 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 3: Bitcoin continues to sink while some precious metals continue to rise. 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 4: That is correct, tom Bitcoin starting the new month under 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 4: pressure once again after losing almost seventeen percent of its 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 4: value just in November. Traders say a key support level 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 4: for bitcoin is eighty thousand dollars, with the token currently 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 4: well under it's October high of over one hundred and 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 4: twenty six thousand dollars. It is right now at eighty 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 4: just over eighty six thousand dollars and thirty cents well. 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 5: Silver trading at a record this morning. 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 4: The trader's placing specuative bets on the white metal given 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 4: ongoing supply tightness. Meanwhile, copper advancing to a record high 16 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 4: in the London Metal Exchange on fears the global market 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 4: is heading for a supply crunch. But how a Bitcoin 18 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 4: down from one twenty six to now eighty six thousand dollars. 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: Okay, Dan? 20 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Coca Cola getting sued by the estate of a 21 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: music legend. 22 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,919 Speaker 4: Who's that the estate of Johnny Cash, claiming Coca Cola 23 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 4: created an ad campaign featuring the voice in the legendary 24 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 4: country star without authorization or compensation. The ad campaign, launched 25 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 4: in August, features a recording of a male singing voice 26 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 4: that quote sounds remarkably like the voice of Johnny Cash, 27 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 4: with consumers expressing confusion on social media. I remember the 28 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 4: ad and I thought it was Johnny Cash away. 29 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, Okay, well I can understand why then they're 30 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: showing him. Meanwhile, the futures this morning, whys check, they 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 3: were down, Oh, still down, my friend, Dow's down four 32 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 3: tens to one percent, Nasacs down one percent, SMP currently 33 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 3: down seven tenths of one percent. From Bloomberg Dan Schwartzman 34 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: on news Radio seven hundred WLW. Always a pleasure to 35 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: be joined by our business insider Greg Steben. You can 36 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 3: follow him on Bluesky at Greg g r E G 37 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 3: g Steben ste b as in boy bas and boy 38 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: E N and we call them the busines Insider. But 39 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 3: all we've been talking about for a few weeks is 40 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: AI and we continue that topic here today. So for 41 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: the next five weeks, most of us will have or 42 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 3: hope to have a little EPRA time off from work. 43 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 3: And you're suggesting this year to give the gift of 44 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 3: a I. How and why do we do that? 45 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 6: Well, so, yeah, we're most of us are going to 46 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 6: get a little time off between now and the end 47 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 6: of the year and between now and Christmas, and some 48 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 6: of that time is going to be used to do 49 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 6: some holiday shopping. I'm saying your holiday shopping could already 50 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 6: be done. 51 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 7: You could just give gift of AI. 52 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 6: And yeah, I'm kind of kidding about that, but I'm 53 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 6: also not really kidding. Let's say you decided you're going 54 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 6: to give everybody on your gift lifts stump form of 55 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 6: gift of AI. You'd probably use AI to figure out. 56 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 7: How to do that. 57 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 6: Sure, but also let's just say the predictions about AI 58 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 6: for you to change everything. And you were the one 59 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 6: at the end of twenty twenty five who came along 60 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 6: to everyone or in your life around you and said, 61 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 6: let's buckle down figure this thing out. 62 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 7: You might be giving them the. 63 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 6: Greatest gift they ever received, which is brighter future than 64 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 6: if they just bury their head in the sand and 65 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 6: ignore it. 66 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, if you're going to give someone the gift 67 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: of Ai, how would you go out doing that? 68 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 7: How would I do it? 69 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 5: Yep? 70 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 7: I would use AI. 71 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 6: I would open up an AI platform, Gemini or Perplexity 72 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 6: or chat GPT. I would type in I want to 73 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 6: give everyone I know the gift of AI this holiday season? 74 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 7: How should I do that? 75 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 3: And it's going to pound out what we can give 76 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: a gift certificate, I mean, explain that people who know 77 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: nothing about this but they're trying to learn about it. 78 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: We try to walk them through that a little bit 79 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: during our segment each and every week about you know, 80 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: fooling around with it, playing around with it, asking some 81 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 3: simple tasks, see the results going from there. But if 82 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: you're actually going to give it as a gift for 83 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: somebody to open in an envelope, whatever, how and where 84 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: would you go about actually giving them that? 85 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 6: Well, I mean I am actually serious, open some AI 86 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 6: platform and ask them how to do it, because this 87 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 6: is exactly the kind of thing AI excels at. Is 88 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 6: it get there's information and presents it to you. I mean, 89 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 6: at the end of the day, Yeah, I think you're gonna. 90 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 7: Give people they're gonna I would. 91 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 6: Use AI to create gifts or tickets for AI. Now, 92 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 6: there are lots of wall you could do that. You'd say, look, 93 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 6: an AI subscription generally around twenty dollars a month. 94 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 7: I might say to people it depends on your budget. 95 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 6: I'm giving a year of. 96 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 7: A particular AI platform, or you. 97 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 6: Know, let's say your dad's an accountant tool, go find 98 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 6: an AI platform. 99 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 7: That's four out the accountants. 100 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 6: There are hundreds of AI platforms. I personally, I'm going 101 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 6: to give everybody in my life a subscription to the 102 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 6: same AI platform, so we're all using the same platform. 103 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 6: I'm gonna get everybody somewhere between three months and six 104 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 6: months or twelve months of access. We're all going to 105 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 6: have access to it. And every time I talk to 106 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 6: everyone i've given this as a gift, I'm going to 107 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 6: say have you used your AI platform? 108 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,679 Speaker 7: Or they call me say I need your advice, I'm 109 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 7: going to say. 110 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 6: Did you be looking it up on And it's probably 111 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 6: going to be perplexity, just because that's why I use 112 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 6: There's no rules to this, but the first rule, if 113 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 6: there was a rule, should be use AI to figure 114 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 6: out how to do it, because I want you to 115 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 6: start using AI too, not just the. 116 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 7: People in your life. 117 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 3: Okay, now, how about this idea. You tell me if 118 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: this makes sense. If you're a manager in your company 119 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: or you're a small business owner, would you thank God 120 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 3: giving you it to your employees? 121 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 6: Yes, Now that doesn't mean you don't also give them 122 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 6: the gift you normally do. But I think you might 123 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 6: look at this or if you have the kind of 124 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 6: relationship with your people that you can sit us with 125 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 6: twinkle in your eye, you might say to them, I'm 126 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 6: kind of giving you the gift of the future by 127 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 6: giving you the Todai. You don't want to say that 128 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 6: as a threat, but if you can say it in 129 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 6: a joking way and people kind of go like, I 130 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 6: think you're just serious, because yeah, because this really could 131 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 6: be the greatest gift to you. If you have people 132 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 6: in your life who are resisting this, and you may 133 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 6: be resisting it. Just making something fun, something silly. It's 134 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 6: just the idea, but also something that people think about 135 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 6: doing together. You know, you had a Christmas party where 136 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 6: you tell everybody to bring a lapop. 137 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 7: Computer or a phone, huh, and you all. 138 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 6: Play kind of a game of trivia sitting around the 139 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 6: table and everybody uses AI to you know, figure out 140 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 6: what the game is. You know, you might say to 141 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 6: yourself and people around you for a month, let's never 142 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 6: use Google every time we have a question. 143 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 7: We would normally oh, I'll google that, let's AI instead. 144 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 6: Oh and look, we all have a sscription to an 145 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 6: AI platform. 146 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 7: Let's figure this out together. 147 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 6: That's what it's going to take. 148 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 7: The master AI is just using it. 149 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 6: So I'm just looking for ways to get people to 150 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 6: get a fun way embrace it and use it and 151 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 6: try it, and even if you fail, you still learn something. 152 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 6: And that's really the point. 153 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: All Right, Let's be the Brench for a minute, because 154 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 3: the Grench always shows up around Christmas time, right, the 155 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: TV show shows up every year a year after year, 156 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 3: forever and ever. What do you think are the possible 157 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: consequences if we just say ah bah humbug to AI 158 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 3: this holiday season instead of taking the time to a break. 159 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 7: Well, you could lose your job, you could. 160 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 6: That's a nice lose your chance at advancing in your company. 161 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 6: You could have a real impact on your family economically. 162 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 6: And think back thirty years or twenty five years ago 163 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 6: to the pew in your life who never got any 164 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 6: Internet training. They became irrelevant. 165 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 7: That's the consequence. 166 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, I have a great rest of your day. 167 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 7: It's great to hear. 168 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 5: Here's the news to help you get it. 169 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 3: This is the Bloomberg Money minutes on seven hundred WLW. 170 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: This is a Bloomberg money minute. Eli Lilly is cutting 171 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: the price for introductory doses of its weight loss drug 172 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: Zepound again as competition heats up with rival Novo Nordisk. 173 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: Starting today, the lowest dose via will cost two ninety 174 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: nine a month for those who pay cash. That's a 175 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: discount of about fifty dollars. President Trump says he's decided 176 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: on his pack for the next Federal Reserve chair, after 177 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: making clear he expects his noumbinate to obey his demand 178 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 2: to deliver interest rate cuts. Airbus says the vast majority 179 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 2: of their A three to twenty jans have received critical modifications. 180 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: Fewer than one hundred aircraft still need to get a 181 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 2: software affixed before they can return to service. And a 182 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: lot of shoppers were underwhelmed by Black Friday promotions, with 183 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 2: some noticing fewer Doorbuster deals in freebies and saying the 184 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: deals were not as good as in previous years, brands 185 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 2: popular with younger shoppers and on TikTok, such as Brandy Melville. 186 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: We're bustling with shoppers despite not having eye popping discounts. 187 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 2: I'm John Tucker, Bloomberg Radio. 188 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 3: Friday eight forty on your Monday morning. Hope everybody had 189 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 3: a great Thanksgiving weekend and time to get back up 190 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 3: and at them. And every single Monday we get together 191 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 3: with the Hall of Famer. We call it Mondays with Marty. 192 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 3: Marty Brennaman, Good morning. How was your holiday weekend? 193 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: It was okay, I hope yours was well. 194 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 5: It was great. 195 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 3: It was nice seeing you guys last night over a 196 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: fifty bus cheeseburger. 197 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, yeah, I mean give them a little outstanding. 198 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 3: They do such great work over there, not only their product, 199 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 3: but they do great stuff I know with the Marymont 200 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 3: Schools and that for a long long time. And we're 201 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 3: appreciative of Bob's slattery in that group for that. Okay, 202 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 3: the biggest story I like to call these things water 203 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: cooler talk, right, and you know, look for men who 204 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 3: follow football, especially college football, this lane kept and for 205 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 3: those that don't know what I'm talking about here, generally speaking, 206 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 3: here's a deal. Lane Kiffin is the football coach. Was 207 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 3: a football coach until last night at Ole Miss. They've 208 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: had the best season in the history of the school. 209 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 3: They've won eleven games, they've only lost one. It looks 210 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 3: like they're guaranteed a spot to play starting next week 211 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: in the college football playoff. Kiffen has decided that he 212 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 3: is leaving to go to LSU. He is taking nine 213 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 3: coaches with them. I want to start before I get 214 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 3: into all of that the other stuff. What were your 215 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 3: thoughts about Kiffen leaving at this point in time. 216 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: Well, I think it applies to a lot of coaches 217 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: tom in the past. Brian Kelly is a prime example here. 218 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: I've been no big fan of his at all. The 219 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: timing of all of this is terrible, you know. You 220 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: see football seasons come to an end, and now teams 221 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: are firing. Our schools are firing coaches and they're looking 222 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: to hire others, and always their certain favorites because of 223 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: the success they've had at the school they currently coach at. 224 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: Kiffin is a prime example. You have to go more 225 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: often than not, sometimes you have to lie to your 226 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: fans in the school that you're leaving as Kelly did 227 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: and end up going. And then if you go, if 228 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: you're hired right away, which they most of them are, 229 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: then you have to leave right away. And if your 230 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: team is in the postseason, more often than not, you're 231 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: not going to be allowed to hang around and coach them. 232 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: Just it's a mess. I would hate to be placed 233 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: in that position, because I think a man's integrity is 234 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: brought to bear. I don't think any worse than this 235 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: Kiffin situation, which has been a soap opera from the 236 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: get go. 237 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: You know, the one thing about the guy you talked about, Kelly, 238 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: I mean, he left and didn't even have a chance 239 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 3: to talk to his team. And I think that's what 240 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 3: angered people around here more than anything. Not that he 241 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 3: left Cincinnati to go to Notre Dame, but because that's 242 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: a slam dunk, it's a fact that he left. It 243 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 3: didn't have a chance to talk to his team. Kiffin 244 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: was scheduled to talk to his team and after sitting 245 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 3: down with the president of the university and the athletic director. 246 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 3: And this is a topic I want to get into now, 247 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 3: and then we'll get to the whole calendar thing in 248 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 3: a minute. But what were your thoughts? Kiffin apparently really 249 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 3: pitched the AD hard hard on letting him coach. However, 250 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 3: Long Old Miss lasted through the playoff, and apparently, by 251 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 3: all indications, LSU was okay with that. Even though you 252 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 3: have the national signing date for high school players this Wednesday. 253 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: The transfer portal unbelievably opens up during the college football 254 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 3: playoff while it's going on. But Kiffin wanted to stay 255 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 3: and coach the team the rest of the way. The 256 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 3: AD said, not a chance. Do you like that decision? 257 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: No? I don't. No, I don't like it at all. 258 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: I mean I once again, it's got to do with 259 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: the hypocrisy dealing with the kids. You know, they always 260 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: say this is all about the kids. The hell it is. 261 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: It's not all about the kids. If it was about 262 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: the kids, then he would have been allowed to stay 263 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: there and coach. Now, I agree, you and I talked 264 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: extensively about this last night. Uh. It could have been 265 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: a possible commercial for Louisiana State. Uh. It could have 266 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: been the threat that they feel they meeting the officials 267 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: at Ole Miss with him trying to convince kids to 268 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: come into the portal and leave Miss ill Miss and 269 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: go to the LSU. But here they are on the 270 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 1: on the verge of the greatest moments in their in 271 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: their history. Uh, these kids, and now it's a terrible 272 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: taste in their mouth. I read a piece in the 273 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: Inquiry this morning about how the blood is so bad 274 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: down there relative to from the kids to Delane Kiffen 275 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: in the manner in which this whole thing has gone down. Uh, 276 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: it's just it's an absolute College athletics is an absolute mess, 277 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: and I'm blue the NCAA for a lot of it. 278 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 3: You know, the thing about the NCAA is so Dad, 279 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 3: you and I both know. You know, once they started basically, 280 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: you know, the the BCS stuff, and now they've moved 281 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 3: into the college football Playoff stuff. I mean, even though 282 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 3: when it comes to certain rules and regulations, yes, the 283 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: NCAA is in charge, but at the same time, the 284 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 3: College Football Playoff as it's branded, pretty much runs itself. 285 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: And it just seems like there is no direction from 286 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 3: them to try and change his calendar because they know 287 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 3: every single year that this kind of thing, the possibility 288 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 3: of it happens. I mean, we saw the guy at 289 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 3: Marshall last year. He ends up leaving Marshall before the 290 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 3: bowl game, so many kids decided to transfer out that 291 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 3: they didn't even have enough players to play in a 292 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: bowl game. And so, you know, you know the flip 293 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: side of all of this, And I'm curious your thoughts here. 294 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 3: I mentioned that the transfer portal opens up while the 295 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: college football playoff is going on. But let's just take 296 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 3: a team like South Florida. Let's pick them because they've 297 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: had a really nice year. Alex Golis yesterday officially left 298 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 3: there to go take another job. But these kids that 299 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 3: are even in a regular quote unquote bowl game, all 300 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 3: of a sudden, you know, they're looking around and going, 301 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 3: who in the world is going to coach this team? 302 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 3: But at the same time, Dad, if they want to 303 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 3: pick up and leave and sit out of a bowl game, 304 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 3: We've seen a lot of players do that in recent years, 305 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 3: where they you know, whether it's for the NFL Draft 306 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 3: or because they plan on transferring somewhere else. I mean, 307 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 3: they can leave, why can't the coach. 308 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: I can disagree with that. That's the reason why somebody 309 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: with some measure of intelligence, and I think there's scar 310 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: a few of them, can sit down and try to 311 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: hash this whole thing. Out transfer or postponed to a 312 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: later date. The transfer a portal situation. There's no reason 313 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: on God's earth why you can't do that. They either 314 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: leave now or they leave a month from now. With 315 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: the acts of difference, I just think that that there 316 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: are ways to make work, and far smarter people than 317 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: me to get involved in say how they should do it. 318 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: But there has to be a way of making this 319 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: a more palatable situation for the players, for the coaches, 320 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: for the university officials. There's got to be I mean this, 321 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: when somebody first labeled this a Wow wild West, that's 322 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: exactly what the heck it is. I mean, in every 323 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: sense of the word, every aspect of your program is touched, 324 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: Every aspect of your athletic and collegiate community is touched, 325 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: and most of those touches are negative touches. It's just 326 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: an absolute unmitigated mess. You know. 327 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, there was a fascinating article written just this morning 328 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 3: about Ryan Day, the head football coach at Ohio State, 329 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: and the way that he and his program have been 330 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 3: trending here over the last number of years. Obviously, we 331 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 3: know they're number one in the country, they're undefeated, they 332 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: won the national championship a season ago, and a lot 333 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: of people you know, for years thought Kirby Smart, the 334 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 3: guy Georgia, was a guy who really had the strongest 335 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 3: resume in the sport. And this article suggests that Ryan 336 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 3: Day over the last seven years, whether you're talking about 337 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 3: his recruiting, hiring his coordinators, giving up the play calling, 338 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 3: which he did two years ago, last year when they 339 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 3: won the championship, lost his offensive coordinator and now gives 340 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 3: it to Brian Hartline this year, whether you're talking about 341 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 3: his graduation rates, whether you're talking about his players not 342 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 3: getting in trouble off the field, that he is now 343 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 3: becoming the guy in college football, and of course it 344 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 3: helps that you finally beat Michigan. What are your thoughts 345 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 3: on Ryan Day. 346 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Ryan Days, A big fan 347 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: of Ryan Days for a number of years. I know 348 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: some of these Ohio State fans and I say this, well, 349 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,959 Speaker 1: people believe you understand. I'm a big fan of Ohio 350 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: State football. Obviously I didn't go to school there. I 351 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: love the way they played. I fell in love with 352 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: it when Irvin was coaching there, and I think Ryan 353 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: Day has stepped and he's done a marvelous job. He's 354 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: not a guy that shoots his own horn. You don't 355 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: hear a whole lot from him other than the football season, 356 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: And if you hear anything from him, it's because somebody 357 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: asked him a question. He has no opinions on anything 358 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: unless somebody ask him. He goes about his job coaching, 359 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: and coaching very well the Ohio State football team. But 360 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: these fans who wanted him fired in the event that 361 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 1: he worked to have lost to Michigan, which he beat 362 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: the hell out of them on Saturday, I have a 363 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: problem with that. To me, it's the greatest rivalry in 364 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: collegiate sports. I used to think he was Duke in 365 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: Carolina and basketball, not anymore. I think it's Michigan and 366 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: Ohio State. When it comes to collegiate rivalry. There is 367 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: nothing bigger than that. I think the guy's a marvelous coach, 368 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: I really do. I think he does everything the right way. 369 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: Whatever system he's got going for him. He loses very 370 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: few kids to a portal. He always going to lose 371 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: some because he's always going to have such a great 372 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: football team that if they're going to be players better 373 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: than others and they can Joe Burrow is the best 374 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: example in the world. That's before Ryan Day. But no, 375 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: I think I think if somebody wrote an article extolling 376 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: his virtues as a collegiate coach and maybe being the 377 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: best in the country, I'd be hard pressed to argue 378 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: that against that completely. 379 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that record eighty two and ten is 380 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 3: just absolutely mind bodily. Okay, all right, I need a 381 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 3: little I need a little I'm not going to say advice, 382 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 3: but I want to get your insight on something because 383 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 3: my wife has been giving me a very hard time 384 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 3: about this. 385 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 5: Okay. 386 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 3: I did not go Tohier State, Okay, but I, as 387 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 3: you know, I don't know if there's a bigger fan 388 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 3: of Ohio State football than I am. I mean, I 389 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 3: live and die with every play. I love them. I 390 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 3: fell in love with them because they're my home state's 391 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 3: team and it's just been going on for decades and 392 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 3: decades and decades. All right, But I have no skin 393 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 3: in the game when it comes to Ohio State. I 394 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 3: didn't go to school there. As you know, your grandson, 395 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 3: my son, Luke, is a student and is a broadcasting 396 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 3: major there at Indiana University. And those two teams number 397 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: one against number two will play in the Big Ten 398 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 3: championship game this weekend in Indianapolis. My wife Polly is 399 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 3: giving me a really hard time that I would be 400 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 3: rooting for Ohio State and not Indiana. Now, Luke says, Dad, 401 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 3: are you kidding me? I would never expect you to 402 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 3: root for Indiana against Ohio State. But my bride is 403 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 3: beating me over the head, so too is my daughter. 404 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 5: Ella. What are your thoughts? 405 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 3: I'm pa and remember now I'm paying Indiana money. 406 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, so what do you think? 407 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: I don't I, you know, to drag out an off 408 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: and use baseball cliche hang with him? I I don't 409 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: know what to tell you. Believe me, Being his granddad, 410 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: I'm once removed. I mean your his dad, I'm his granddad. 411 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: I've thought about this subject a lot, Believe me, I have, 412 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: I really truly have. Uh. Where where will my rooting 413 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: interest be when they see that football up in Indianapolis 414 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: this weekend? I don't. It's just it's gonna be hard, Uh, 415 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: it really truly is. I would love to see Indiana win. 416 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: Because of Luke's involvement at the university and also involved 417 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: in the community communications program and the work he's done 418 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: on football and basketball and every sport there, and then 419 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: again I think about Ohio State. I could I try 420 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: to rationalize and I say, well, they wanted last year. 421 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: You know, they don't need to win it back to 422 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: back years. Let's let's to let Indiana win that game 423 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: and maybe win the national championship. But I don't, I 424 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: don't know. I have my own personal feeling on it 425 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: and how I think it's gonna add up. But I'm 426 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: not revealing that. 427 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 3: Uh, you're not gonna pick a winner on this show. 428 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 3: You're not gonna pick the winner. 429 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: All right. I'm picking Ohio State to win. How can 430 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: you not big or I think it's got a chance 431 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: to I think it's got a chance to get out 432 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: of control. I really do, I really do. All Right, 433 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: let me say this. I read an interesting piece in 434 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: the paper this morning. Somebody has written and read the article. 435 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: Saw the headline. This game Saturday may well determine who 436 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: wins a Heisman Trophy. It's going to be number one 437 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: against number two. It's going to be uh, the Mendoza 438 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: kid in Indiana is going to be the uh saying 439 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: kid at Ohio State. And I believe that. I think 440 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: they're the top two candidates right now. 441 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think any day just. 442 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: Add something else to it, add something else to the game. 443 00:22:59,119 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: It really does. 444 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's going to be exciting. 445 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 3: And I tell you, for those that don't like Ohio State, 446 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 3: when you think about their quarterback being a red shirt 447 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 3: freshman and their two best running backs being freshmen and 448 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 3: the best wide receiver in the country as a sophomore man, 449 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 3: it is pretty scary stuff. All right, It's going to 450 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 3: be fun. Thanks as always for the time. Hope you 451 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 3: have a great rest of your day. 452 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: All right, buddy, you too, We love you. 453 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 5: I love you too. I'll talk to you later on 454 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 5: Uh who we know? 455 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: Drums, roads, pads, and shoes. 456 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 6: It doesn't matter what kind of car you got the call.