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Speaker 1: To day, my friend. I hope you are enjoying some

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Speaker 1: much deserved time off, my friend.

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Speaker 2: How are you? Yeah? All good here? Well, it's good

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Speaker 2: to a good catch up with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I mean it certainly was hoping to have

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Speaker 1: you on under maybe a few different circumstances. But yesterday

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Speaker 1: when we were doing the show and we've Chris found

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Speaker 1: out the news about Doug mo passing at eighty seven,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people reached out and asking about you

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Speaker 1: and about your relationships, and so I thought it'd be

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Speaker 1: good to bring you on and get maybe a little

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Speaker 1: bit of information or a couple of stories. So if

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Speaker 1: you don't mind sort of sharing what your relationship was

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Speaker 1: like with Doug and especially covering the Nuggets back.

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Speaker 2: In the day. Oh gosh, you know I first, honestly,

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Speaker 2: when I first remember Doug, I was I was a

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Speaker 2: kid going down to the Auditorium Marina and watching as

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Speaker 2: many ABA games as I possibly could. And you know,

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Speaker 2: a lot of Nuggets fans remember Doug as as just

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Speaker 2: a great coach for the Nuggets, and he was in

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Speaker 2: fact that. But Doug was really really good player. I

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Speaker 2: mean he was a I can't remember how many, but

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Speaker 2: he was his All League, All Star ABA player more

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Speaker 2: than just one year six', five about two, fifteen and

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Speaker 2: so you, know we we were of similar. SIZE i

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Speaker 2: just remember watching his game and really appreciating that he

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Speaker 2: WASN'T i wouldn't say he was overly. Skilled he could

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Speaker 2: shoot the, ball he was, tough he, hustled and that

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Speaker 2: was really the first, time the first time THAT i

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Speaker 2: remember seeing he played With he played with The he

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Speaker 2: played with The Oakland, OAKS i, remember AND i think

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Speaker 2: he Played New orleans as, well The New Orleans buccaneers

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Speaker 2: back in THE, aba and that was a big deal

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Speaker 2: for basketball fans In denver because, THAT i, mean obviously

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Speaker 2: that pre see of The nuggets when THE aba and

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Speaker 2: THE nba, merged pre seeded The nuggets going into THE.

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Speaker 1: Nba SO i wonder because he's from my, understanding AND

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Speaker 1: i only got a chance to talk to him one

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Speaker 1: time as a guest on a radio, show but, man

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Speaker 1: he has such a personality, too AND i know that

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Speaker 1: his time here In, denver post, playing post, COACHING i,

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Speaker 1: mean he had a radio show and there were there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of people that they really had a

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Speaker 1: good time sort of chatting with. Him SO i, MEAN

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Speaker 1: i guess do you have any kind of interactions or

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Speaker 1: stories with him post playing and post coaching.

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Speaker 2: Career. YEAH i think the thing that struck me most

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Speaker 2: About doug was that that he treated. People. Well you,

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Speaker 2: know he did a radio show With Tom, green and

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Speaker 2: you know, what he never changed really who he. Was

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Speaker 2: it was an enjoyable Show Tom tom sort of drove the,

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Speaker 2: show but it was an enjoyable show because it Was

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Speaker 2: doug Being. Doug doug didn't try, to you, know bounce

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Speaker 2: into radio after his career and then become something that he.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't he was just you, know he called everybody a

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Speaker 2: stiff if you liked, you AND i mean he just

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Speaker 2: really treated help. PEOPLE i Mean Ron zipolo was a

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Speaker 2: very close friend of. HIS i Think Tom, GREEN i

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Speaker 2: have several friends that were really really close To, doug

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Speaker 2: AND i got to know him a little. Bit he

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Speaker 2: would stop out At Big. BILLS i saw him a

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Speaker 2: couple of times. There he was great friends With Bill.

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Speaker 2: Vickey and you, know just what you saw In doug

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Speaker 2: was exactly when you saw him. Coach his passion for.

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Speaker 2: Coaching that was Who doug was off the court as.

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Speaker 2: Well AND i, think you, know you have to be

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Speaker 2: of a certain. Vintage but when you think back to

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Speaker 2: the eighties and basketball in the city Of, DENBER i

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Speaker 2: MEAN i think Of doug MOH i think of his

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Speaker 2: teams with Alex english And Keiki van The, way and

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Speaker 2: to this, DAY i think it's the only team IN

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Speaker 2: nba history that had the leading score in the league

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Speaker 2: and they had the second place score in the league

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Speaker 2: on the same. Team so HE i, mean he. Coached

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Speaker 2: he coached pace in. Basketball he coached getting the ball

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Speaker 2: off the board and pushing the ball up to. Court

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Speaker 2: AND i just Thought doug was way ahead of his

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Speaker 2: time in terms of sort of how he approached especially

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Speaker 1: Basketball, yeah and by the, way you mentioned Ron zappollo

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Speaker 1: there And Tom, green AND i want to say is

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Speaker 1: what he as. Well they did a really cool breakdown

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Speaker 1: On gorilla when this news came out yesterday and And ron

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Speaker 1: was very. EMOTIONAL i thought it WAS i thought it

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Speaker 1: WAS i, mean they do a great show, anyways but

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Speaker 1: you sort of could tell from that moment like what

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Speaker 1: you mentioned a certain, vintage like you, know unless you're

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Speaker 1: people that don't have that connection to. It but, again

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Speaker 1: just such a legendary, coach first of, all and you

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Speaker 1: saw that by the reaction league wide, yesterday but then here,

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Speaker 1: was woven into the fabric of this community for so many.

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Speaker 2: Years, oh there's there's no question about. That and, again you,

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Speaker 2: Know doug has been sort of out of the limelight

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Speaker 2: now for for a number of, years and so there

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Speaker 2: would understandably be there'd be people that would not really

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Speaker 2: know much About doug and only know in terms of

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Speaker 2: what they read or what they heard people talk. About

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Speaker 2: BUT i Mean, doug AND i think he was, here

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Speaker 2: And i'm NOT i may have messed up my years

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Speaker 2: a little, bit but he was here for most of

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Speaker 2: the decade of the. Eighties The nuggets had great success

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Speaker 2: in THE. Nba The nuggets in eighty. FOUR i remember

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Speaker 2: this Because i'd just been traded from The browns back

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Speaker 2: to The broncos and from The nuggets that year wound

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Speaker 2: up going all the way to The Western Conference. Finals

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Speaker 2: AND i, think, say for a couple of key, Injuries

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Speaker 2: Alex english got. HURT i Think calvin nat got, hurt

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Speaker 2: maybe Even Fat leaver as, well and they wind up

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Speaker 2: losing to The lakers four games to. One lakers went

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Speaker 2: on and beat The celtics that year THE nba championship.

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Speaker 2: SEASON i think that was as close until The Nicole

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Speaker 2: jokic sort of. ERA i think that was as close

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Speaker 2: as The nuggets were ever to winning the. Championship that

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Speaker 2: team in eighty four and eighty, five and they won

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Speaker 2: more than FIFTY i can't remember how many in the regular,

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Speaker 2: season but that, team coached By doug MO i thought

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Speaker 2: was good enough to win AN nba. Championship they just

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Speaker 2: had a bunch of injuries at an inopportune time of the.

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Speaker 1: Year by the, Way dave just let you KNOW usa

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Speaker 1: men's hockey just won it overtime Over. Sweden so that's pretty.

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Speaker 1: Awesome Mass. Yeah, yeah have you been Following. OLYMPICS i mean,

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Speaker 1: again you're on. VACATION i don't know if you completely

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Speaker 1: unplugged from, everything But i've been watching quite a bit

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Speaker 1: of The. Olympics. Trands you know what.

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Speaker 2: It's it's a little bit of a forced unplugged if

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Speaker 2: you know. WHAT i know WHAT i. Mean they don't

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Speaker 2: they don't really concentrate too much on on The olympics down.

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Speaker 2: Here they're they're they're talking about the beach. Sports so,

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Speaker 2: no BUT i think THAT'S i try to watch it

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Speaker 2: a little. BIT i think that's. Awesome, yeah it's.

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Speaker 1: Great, yeah well they're on the semi finals and uh,

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Speaker 1: yeah it looks LIKE i, Mean canada survived an overtime

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Speaker 1: win today as, well so uh we're we seem to

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Speaker 1: be on pace here For canada VERSUS. Usa dave for

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Speaker 1: the gold which is going to be really, tremendous you know.

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Speaker 2: What AND i am surrounded by a bunch Of, canadians

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Speaker 2: not not literally right, now but for most of most

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Speaker 2: of the days down, HERE i. AM i am prepared

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Speaker 2: to THE usa Beat. Canada are you gonna? Be are?

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Speaker 1: There you gonna go like full US a if we?

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Speaker 1: Go if we GO usa Versus, canada are you gonna

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Speaker 1: GO usa face?

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Speaker 2: Paint i'm gonna go Ugly american for sure on These,

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Speaker 2: canadians because they are they are quite ready and able

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Speaker 2: to tell me all about how, listen there are Some

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Speaker 2: canadians right now and they say it sort of in

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Speaker 2: a kiddingly, way but they really don't care too much

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Speaker 2: For america and for whatever the reason for whatever the the,

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Speaker 2: reason AND i just, LISTEN I i give it to.

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Speaker 2: THEM i MEAN i give it right back to. HIM

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Speaker 2: i MEAN i. DO i give it right back to.

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Speaker 2: THEM i stir my, drink take a swig and tell

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Speaker 2: them WHAT i. THINK i know that.

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Speaker 1: This is only gonna ramp things, Up, dave if we

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Speaker 1: if we get to the gold medal round and IT'S

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Speaker 1: us a Versus, canada which is what everybody, wants it's

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Speaker 1: it's only gonna ramp it.

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Speaker 2: Up, yeah, listen you already know ready to. GO i

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Speaker 2: know you. WILL i know you.

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Speaker 1: Will day you the best appreciated.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: AGAIN i know it's for, vacation but we definitely wanted

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Speaker 1: to get you on and get your thoughts on. This

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Speaker 1: so thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Man. Guys, YEAH i appreciate.

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Speaker 1: It it Is Dave logan always good