1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Is Tony Pike's Friday Football Frenzy show, brought to you 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: in Part five, Yellow Windows and Door Making life writer 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: pelenaw Hey. Later Skyline Hilly Feeling Good. It's Skyline time, 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: Encore Technologies, visit OnCore dot Tech, Hudson Oil, Feeling Champions, 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: On and off the Field, Game Day, Men's Health, Start 6 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: your best life today, and by the Creation Museum. It's 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: more than a museum. Visit Creation Museum dot Org Today 8 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: on ESPN fifteen thirty, the Official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 9 00:00:40,960 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, baby, okay, okay, yeah, what. 10 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: We all want to do on a Friday? Come on? 11 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, what are you gonna do? 12 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: What are you gonna do? Come on? We don't want 13 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: to work, but we're here, so let's do it. The 14 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: Friday Football Frenzy ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. Thanks 15 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 3: for joining us. Your talkbacks come up in our number two. 16 00:01:49,320 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: Charlie Goldsmith comes up in our number two. But we 17 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: start today Austin with unfortunate news. With today's show, we're 18 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 3: done early. 19 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's true. 20 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: Two thirty this afternoon, the show is over. Why is 21 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 3: the show over at two thirty this afternoon? 22 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 4: Well, We've got Kentucky basketball tonight on these airwaves at 23 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 4: Rupp Arena down there in Lexington. And of course their 24 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 4: tip off is at seven, which means their pregame gets 25 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 4: underway at five thirty, which means Bengals pep rally with 26 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 4: Dan and Lapp. Well, that gets moved up from two 27 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 4: thirty to five thirty, which means we're done at two thirty. Wow, 28 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 4: So make your plans accordingly. We're done early. This happens 29 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 4: once or twice a year. Yeah, it's been a while. 30 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 4: We work to it. We push on now. If that's 31 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 4: not bad enough for you, I got more bad news. 32 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,839 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, we don't get to talk to tom 33 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 4: Gilader today. That's right, Tommy g Load Management Gallader, the 34 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 4: voice of FC Cincinnati. You know, some just handle winning 35 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 4: better than others. Had FC Cincinnati lost to Columbus with 36 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,839 Speaker 4: Tommy had joined us this week probably, but since they won, 37 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 4: since they've advanced, since they're off this weekend and they 38 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 4: don't play again until next Sunday, that's that daily or 39 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 4: that's that doubleheader, right, the Bengals and Patriots at one. 40 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 4: FC Cincinnati inner Miami's at five, So Tommy will join 41 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 4: us next week, but he's on load management duties today, 42 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 4: So show ends at two thirty. No Tommy g to 43 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 4: talk FC Cincinnati, So our three it'll go quick. 44 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 3: We're gonna make our weekly picks at two o'clock and 45 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: then we're going to finish the show after that. 46 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 4: You got a football in the Natty, that's right. We 47 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 4: got an added one of those, that's right. 48 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: So as I met, we've got Charlie Goldsmith at one, 49 00:03:55,400 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: We've got our normal talkbacks at two, all at one 50 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: twenty five. So that means if you want to take 51 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: time out of your Friday to talk to us outside 52 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 3: of a talkback, you need to give us a call 53 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: an hour number one five, one, three, seven, four nine, 54 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Thursday Night Football. Let's start there. Last night, Austin, 55 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 3: let's start with the New England Patriots. Tell you what 56 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: I've not been able to watch many games start to 57 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: finish of the Patriots this year. That one last night 58 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: I did watch, and I was impressed, and I had 59 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 3: high expectations going in because of what the Patriots had done, 60 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 3: what they've been doing going into last night's game. They 61 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: now sit atop the NFL with eight straight regular season 62 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 3: wins and all the hub is about one Drake May. 63 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: I watched that game last night, could not be more 64 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 3: impressed with Drake May. The way he moves in the pocket, 65 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: his ball delivery, keeping the eyes down the field, his 66 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: command of that Patriots offense, and really what he's doing 67 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 3: with those around him. Stefan Diggs mac collins. Mac Collins 68 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 3: has been great for New England, Hunter Henry to Mario Douglas, 69 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 3: Travion Henderson five catches for thirty one yards in a 70 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 3: touchdown last night. Trayvion also ran at nineteen times for 71 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 3: sixty two yards and two more touchdowns. That is as 72 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: impressive as a Patriot offense as you'll see often. And 73 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 3: what I fear for the Patriots is that each week 74 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 3: that goes by, Drake May's getting more and more comfortable 75 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: in that system, which is going to make them more 76 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 3: and more dangerous going forward. 77 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the thing with me just stood out 78 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 4: how calm he was in the pocket. Now, the Patriots 79 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 4: offensive line played pretty well. It wasn't like he had 80 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 4: a bunch of stuff in his lap that he had 81 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 4: to deal with, but when it did happen, he was 82 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 4: able to climb, He was able to keep his eyes up. 83 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 4: He didn't panic, he was able to move outside the 84 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 4: pocket when he had to. Just very very impressed with 85 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 4: Drake May obviously. Trevion Henderson. I think there's been five 86 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 4: rookies that have had three touchdown games already this season. 87 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 4: There were zero a year ago, which is kind of 88 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: hard to believe. By the way. Two of the five 89 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 4: was that Ohio State tandem from last year quin Shawn 90 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 4: Judkins with the Browns, Traveon Henderson last night with New England. Now, 91 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 4: I did think that New England's defense wasn't great. They 92 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 4: played against the Jets, and if they would have been 93 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 4: playing against maybe a better offense, there's more points on 94 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 4: the board there, So I think maybe that's something to 95 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 4: keep an eye on. Even that that Jets did run 96 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 4: it for five yards of carry they did. I mean 97 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 4: that first, that opening drive by the Jets. I mean that, 98 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 4: if you're a Jets fan, pack it up, go home, 99 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 4: you're good. That was the best moment of the best 100 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 4: twenty five minutes of your season, it felt like on 101 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 4: that opening drive. But New England's nine to two. 102 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: Man Yeah, to your point, I am concerned about the 103 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 3: New England offense. I do think there are opportunities and 104 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 3: vulnerabilities that teams can take it and score against New 105 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 3: England if that becomes the case next Sunday. Of course, 106 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 3: the Bengals will have to get through this weekend first. 107 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: That's a road trip against the Steelers. We'll talk about 108 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: that here in our number one. We'll make picks on 109 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: that in our number three. MVPs were announced last night 110 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 3: Austin show hey Otani yes his fourth MVP, fourth unanimous 111 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: MVP selection last night for Sho hey Otani. He captured 112 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 3: all thirty first place votes, Kyle Schwarber twenty three of 113 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: the second place votes. Juan Soto and Geraldo Perdomo of 114 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 3: the Diamondbacks accrued the rest. Shoe Otani has won four 115 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: MVPs over the last five years, again all unanimous, and 116 00:07:54,840 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: only now Barry Bonds has more with seven. I just 117 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 3: we say it every year and certainly in the playoffs 118 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: this year. He's the best player on the planet and 119 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: it shows through each and every time that guy is 120 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 3: able to take the field. It is a special, special 121 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: thing to coincide with the timing of being able to 122 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: watch Shoheo Tani in his greatness. Aaron Judge in the 123 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: American League is your MVP as well? This was a 124 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: little bit more narrow. Judge takes seventeen first place votes, 125 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 3: cal Raley had thirteen, and they swapped in second place 126 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 3: Kyle Raley seventeen and Aaron Judge thirteen. So this was 127 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: a very very very close race Austin, Aaron Judge edges 128 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: out cal Raleigh. National League, no brainer. Did they get 129 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: it right in the American League with Judge. 130 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. I mean there's just a plethora 131 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 4: of statistics that you can look at for Aaron Judge 132 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 4: where he was just better than cal Raley. I do 133 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 4: think the idea of being a catcher and doing that 134 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 4: every single day is remarkable for cal Raley and for Seattle. 135 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 4: But I mean Aaron Judge from a offensive standpoint, it's undeniable. 136 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 4: The way that he hits for power, the way that 137 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 4: he hits for average walking, you know, all of it. 138 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 4: It just makes sense why Aaron Judge was the MVP. Again. 139 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know that anybody would have had 140 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 4: an argument either way, Like sure, both dudes were deserving. 141 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 4: It was close. I think seventeen and thirteen the votes 142 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 4: were flipped first and second place votes for each So. 143 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, some college hoops last night. It was a good one. 144 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: Braydon Smith, I think the best point guard in the 145 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 3: country for Purdue. They went on the road and beat 146 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 3: Alabama eighty seven to eighty. You get some Friday night 147 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 3: college hoops tonight as well. Kentucky back on the court 148 00:09:54,640 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 3: against Eastern Illinois Michigan's at TCU Arizona Ucla. Arizona's the 149 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 3: fifth ranked team in the country. Ucla is number fifteen 150 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: and back on the court tonight without tweeting after their 151 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 3: last loss the Xavier Musketeers in the Iowa Hawk Guys, Austin, 152 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 3: Any guess this game is in Iowa, It's eight pm tip. 153 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 3: Any guess as to what the spread is tonight? 154 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 4: Well, I saw it this morning, okay, and at that 155 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 4: time it was sixteen and a half, down to fifteen 156 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 4: and a half, down to fifteen Okay. Now it was 157 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 4: fourteen and a half yesterday. So maybe you know, they 158 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 4: just can't figure out what they like on this game. 159 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 4: I don't know, Yeah, I mean what, I thought it 160 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 4: would be more than that, to be honest, I thought 161 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 4: it would be closer to twenty. 162 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: Based on what we've seen so far this year from Xavier. 163 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: Now can they turn it around? I think it'll be 164 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: very interesting to see. But I also tell your seeing 165 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: gotta believe it. I also learned this morning that Fran 166 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: McCaffrey is not the coach at Iowa anymore. 167 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 4: Oh. 168 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 3: I didn't know that either. 169 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, apparently he's gone. 170 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: Okay. 171 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 4: They said that the dude from Drake used to be 172 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 4: the coach of Drake coaches Iowa. I didn't know any 173 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 4: of this either. 174 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 3: Good to know. Tomorrow the Louisville Cardinals in action against 175 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 3: the Bobby's from ou that's at the Young Center, and 176 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 3: I have. 177 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 4: To think the Cards are looking ahead to the Bearcatt too. 178 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: You worry about the Bobby's. 179 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 4: Bobby's can play a little bit. Now. 180 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 3: There's a big one in the Hall of Fame series 181 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 3: at TD Garden in Boston, Massachusetts tomorrow, the third rank 182 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 3: Yukon Huskies take on the seventh ranked BYU Cougars BYU, 183 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 3: though Austin could be without Kennard Davis, who is a 184 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: starter but was arrested on suspicion of a duy following 185 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: a crash in Provo on Thursday. 186 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 5: Wow. 187 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 3: This coming before the matchup against Yukon. He is a 188 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: six to six transfer from Southern Illinois. So they are 189 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 3: looking into those allegations right now in BYU, but certainly 190 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 3: that would not help the Cougars in that one. Any 191 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 3: other noteworthy news, Oh, I don't even know if I 192 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 3: want to mention this. Fourteen have been charged in the 193 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 3: mafia backed betting ring involving athletes Austin. This coming from 194 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 3: the Joseph Little Joe Perna family, a member of the 195 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 3: I believe it's Luciesi Lucesi crime family. Yeah, his associates 196 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 3: ran a nationwide network of bookmakers used offshore websites to 197 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 3: facilitate approximately two million in bets between twenty twenty two 198 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 3: and twenty twenty four. So fourteen have been charged. Little Joe, 199 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 3: his sons, stepson, nephews and others all charged with racketeering, conspiracy, 200 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 3: gambling offense, and money laundering. Wow, so that is where 201 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: things stand. I can't believe we're talking about the mafia 202 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 3: on a Friday. That just that worries me. That story 203 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 3: is gonna have It's gonna be a lot of twists 204 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 3: and turns. 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I don't think 221 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 3: it should be overlooked the job that New England has 222 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 3: also done with Drake May and protecting him. Did that 223 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 3: stand out to you at all? I mean last night 224 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 3: I thought Will Campbell was as solid as you could be. 225 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: But they also they took in the seventh round, they 226 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 3: took Marcus Bryant, they have, in my opinion, got it 227 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 3: right with Drake May. But I also feel like they 228 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: got it right in protecting Drake May. And that's something 229 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 3: we've talked about here from the start. Have the Bengals 230 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 3: done enough to protect their quarterback? I think if you 231 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 3: look at what they do in New England and you 232 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 3: look at how Drake May was in the pocket. You 233 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 3: mentioned the pocket being strong pretty much all night. He 234 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 3: was only sacked one time last night and was only 235 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 3: hit four times. But as good as Drake May has 236 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: been Austin, I think think you credit New England as 237 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 3: well for what they've done in building around Drake May. 238 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I remember watching in the offseason. The Patriots 239 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 4: had this this offseason series that they did kind of 240 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 4: like their own in house version of Hard Knocks, and 241 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 4: they talked about their free agency and their mentality around 242 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 4: bringing different guys in. One of the guys they brought 243 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 4: in was Morgan Moses, a long time veteran tackle who 244 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 4: could come in and bring some stability and a veteran 245 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 4: presence to that room. Couple that with Will Campbell, who 246 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 4: they spent their first round pick on, and that's a 247 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 4: pretty good start to building your offensive line, And you're right. 248 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 4: I mean there was a graphic at one point that 249 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 4: I think the Next Gen Stats broadcast last night showed 250 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 4: that was like the heat map of the pocket and 251 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 4: it was green a lot. Yep. Now that might say 252 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 4: a little bit about the Jets, but also the Patriots 253 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 4: didn't allow maybe some lesser known players to get after 254 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 4: Drake May. But yeah, it's done a great job. It 255 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 4: starts with that. 256 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 3: Yep, I think it and again it just you'd go 257 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 3: back to it because it's been such an issue here 258 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 3: with the Cincinnati Bengals. 259 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 4: Well, it's an issue across it is. It's an issue 260 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 4: in a lot of places like there are you think 261 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 4: about Bryce Young running for his life early on in Carolina. 262 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 4: We've seen that across the league. Cam Ward is not 263 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 4: being protected very well right now. So yeah, I mean 264 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 4: offensive line, it's an issue across the NFL. It's especially 265 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 4: difficult when you're putting a young quarterback into a situation 266 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 4: which he can't be protected. 267 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. I just when you look at look at what 268 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 3: they did this year. They went and got Will Campbell 269 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 3: in the first and Traveon Henderson in the second. I mean, 270 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: that's that's getting it done. They got Jared Wilson from 271 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 3: Georgia in the third their center. They play some guard 272 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 3: as well, so they they nailed. It was it was 273 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 3: odd the way New England was structured in the offseason 274 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 3: because it felt like they were so active in the offseason, right, 275 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: and you're like many building something there. And it was again, 276 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: like we talked earlier in the week, the moves New 277 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 3: England made in the offseason Austin, and it was a 278 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 3: lot of them. It stood out because they were making 279 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 3: so many of them. But for many of them, you 280 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 3: felt like, yeah, I can see that that makes sense. 281 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 3: The personnel matches the scheme that Mike Brabel's put in place. 282 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 4: And they were also not afraid to move on from 283 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 4: players that no longer fit that. Yeah, Kysh Jugger for 284 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 4: an example, as at that safety position in the way 285 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 4: that that went. So I know there was another one 286 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 4: too that I might be blanking on who it was, 287 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 4: but yeah, I mean they were not afraid to do that, 288 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 4: and I think moving forward, New England has more cap 289 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:36,959 Speaker 4: space than anybody in the NFL. 290 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, they moved on. They moved on from Keon White 291 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 3: as well. 292 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 4: Their defensive end, Keon White and Kyle duggery and oh, 293 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 4: by the way, the Patriots have a guy who's an 294 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 4: inside linebackers coach calling their defense. Oh, because their defensive 295 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 4: coordinator had a sickness or an illness or something. He's 296 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 4: away from football right now. Dudes never called defense before, 297 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 4: and yet they've found a way to kind of piece 298 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 4: some of these guys together. So yeah, I mean, just 299 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 4: a not a surprise that the Patriots and Mike Rabel 300 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 4: are doing what they're doing. 301 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 3: It's also a team going into twenty twenty six, Austin 302 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 3: that's going to have eleven draft picks, so they have 303 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 3: stockpiled draft picks as well, and they have done so 304 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 3: moving on from their offensive line coach and defensive line 305 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 3: coach from last year. Huh who are both here in Cincinnati. 306 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 4: Interesting? 307 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 3: Now we've spent time talking about the Patriots, so let's 308 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 3: go to Boston and talk to John for a moment. 309 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 7: Hi, John, Happy Friday, Tony, Happy Friday. Austin, they start 310 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 7: setting me up because anytime I can bash Scott Peters and. 311 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 5: Jam Montambery, I love the opportunity. 312 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 4: I mean, it's really yeah. 313 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 7: I mean, the Patriots go out and get a real 314 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 7: offensive line coach, Doug Marone, and we see the difference 315 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 7: this year. Heck, I probably could coach the Patriots defensive 316 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 7: line better than Jerry Montgomery did last year. But you know, 317 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 7: it's interesting what you say. And again, if the Bangals 318 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 7: are going to move on from Zach Taylor, I looked 319 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 7: to New England as a possible place to land your 320 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,239 Speaker 7: next head coach. And I know Josh McDaniels was a 321 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 7: disaster in Denver and with the Raiders, but let's kind 322 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 7: of look a little deeper into that. When he got 323 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 7: to Denver, he was thirty three years old, he didn't 324 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 7: have a quarterback. He traded Jay Cutler for some reason, 325 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 7: they just didn't get along. He had Kyle Orton. Then 326 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 7: he drafted tin team got so he never had a 327 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 7: quarterback in Denver. He goes to the Raiders, he has 328 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 7: Derek Carr, who's middle of the road quarterback. Then after 329 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 7: that was Jimmy g and a bunch of like unnamed 330 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 7: backups and then they moved on from there. When he's 331 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 7: had quarterbacks, obviously Tom Brady, let's put him aside. But 332 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 7: look what he did with Matt Castle in two thousand 333 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 7: and eight. I mean, the Patriots went eleven and five 334 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 7: after Brady got injured. Castle was a borderline Pro Bowl 335 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 7: player in two thousand and eight and had a nice 336 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 7: little curry after that. In Kansas City twenty twenty one, 337 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 7: Mac Jones looked like a first round quarterback one year 338 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 7: with Josh McDaniels and again, the thing about Josh mcthaniels 339 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 7: that I love so much is that a multiple offense. 340 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 7: Just picture Josh McDaniels and Joe Burrow together. Now again, 341 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 7: I think Joe would have to give in a little 342 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 7: bit because with McDaniels, half the snaps are under center. 343 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 7: You can throw from under center, you can run from 344 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 7: the shotgun. You know, it's got that multiple offense. They'll 345 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 7: they'll run twelve personnel, twenty two personnel. Last night they 346 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 7: use six linemen. To your point, guys, the offensive line 347 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 7: played well. They use an extralignment to protect Drake Man. 348 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 7: I mean, those two guys together would be would be 349 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 7: pretty interesting. But the mistakes that mcgame has made you 350 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 7: have to rectify. Don't give him complete control or any 351 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 7: control over player personnel because he's not very good at that. 352 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 7: And then bring in a high level defensive coordinator. Let 353 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 7: him concentrate on that and let him work with your 354 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 7: quarterback in your offense. 355 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 4: I think it would be fantastic. 356 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 7: This is an offense that Tom Brady said if Aaron 357 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 7: Rodgers played in it, he would throw for six thousand yards. 358 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 7: And that might be hyperbolic, but I don't think it's 359 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 7: that far off. 360 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 8: I mean, that's how good this is. 361 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 7: Before before I go, guys, I love to hear your comment. 362 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 4: But one more thing I want to touch on. 363 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 7: If last night doesn't verify how bad the Bengals defense is, 364 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 7: I don't know what does. Because in the last the 365 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 7: most recent five games, the Jets have scored six, eleven, thirteen, 366 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 7: and fourteen points and oh, by the way, thirty nine 367 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 7: against the Bengals in the most recent five games stretch 368 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 7: in terms of offensive yards eighty two against Denver, one 369 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 7: sixty nine against Cleveland, two twenty against Carolina, two forty 370 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 7: five last night, and five oh two against the Bengals. 371 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 7: I mean, Denver head over five hundred yards offense against 372 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 7: the Bengals will Week four, and Denver can't break ten points. 373 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 4: At this point. 374 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 7: I mean they like winning games thirteen to eleven or 375 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 7: ten to seven, and this defense, I'm starting to think guys, 376 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 7: this defense is really a comedy troupe, like they're here 377 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 7: to just like humor us. 378 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 4: So incredible because it's that bad, isn't it. 379 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 7: I mean, when you're being compared to the two thousand 380 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 7: and eight Detroit Lions who went winless, that's those are 381 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 7: the two worst defenses in century. 382 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 4: Oh man, that's bad. 383 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 3: I was thinking that when Austin brought up how the 384 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 3: Jets move the ball early last night, and I'm thinking, man, 385 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 3: if that was the Jets moving the ball, I can't 386 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 3: even begin to reach think about what they did to 387 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals. I mean, that is it's a great 388 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 3: example of just how oft and how bad this this 389 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 3: Bengals defense is right now percent. 390 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 8: With you, yeah, and then the Patriots defense. 391 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 7: The biggest issue for Patriots defense is starting games. It 392 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 7: just doesn't seem like they're really with it. They've they've 393 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 7: given up scores I believe in eight of eleven games 394 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 7: on the first possession by the opponents. And Austin, one 395 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 7: of the players you were thinking of, Jabrill Peppers, was 396 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 7: another state in the Patriots moved gone from another guy 397 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 7: like Duggar, who's an inside the box hard hitter, well 398 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 7: that's kind of outdated in the NFL today. 399 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 5: I mean, you need need. 400 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: Guys back there that can cover. 401 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 7: But it's really pleasant to see. Drake May obviously is 402 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 7: an MVP candidate. I think Drake May and Joe Burrow 403 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 7: probably the two most natural throwers of the football in 404 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 7: the league. These are as Drake May, that thing is 405 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 7: like beautiful to watch, awesome, And you know that Tony 406 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 7: is a quarterback. 407 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 4: He's great to watch. 408 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 7: And I think those two guys maybe we'll see them 409 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 7: face off a week from Sunday, let's hope. 410 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, ye, John, thank you so much for the phone call. 411 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 3: Have a great weekend, man. That's sobering. You brought up 412 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 3: the point of how the Patriots defense looked a little 413 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 3: vulnerable last night, and it's that Jets offense and the 414 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 3: Jets scored fourteen. 415 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 4: I mean, he is right in the sense that it's 416 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 4: almost funny, like how bad the Bengals defense is. I 417 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 4: mean I remember like watching Colson Loveland run into the 418 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 4: end zone for the Bears, and I was laughing because 419 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 4: I was like, that is just it's incredible how awful 420 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 4: they are. It's almost comedic. And he's right, and I 421 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 4: think we have a week or so, two weeks away, 422 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 4: and you kind of start to forget or maybe come 423 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 4: up with some sort of idea that, ah, that maybe 424 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 4: they might be a little bit better. Here's some numbers 425 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 4: from the previous game, or here's the numbers from previous seasons, 426 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 4: and you think, surely it can't get worse. Well, it 427 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 4: has over and over and over and over and over again. 428 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 4: And as we're speaking, Zach Taylor just officially ruled out 429 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson and Shamar Stewart for Sunday. YEP, Cedric Johnson, 430 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 4: come on down. It's tough. 431 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 3: We will have a chance to discuss those things with 432 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 3: Charlie Goldsmith. He will join us at one o'clock today, 433 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 3: uh before now, and then let's uh, let's go through 434 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 3: some of the breakdown of Sunday's game. And we've got 435 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 3: some Jamar Chase audio from yesterday as well. We'll get 436 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 3: all that in along with any more of your phone calls. 437 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 3: Five one thirty. 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Here in our number one break down, 446 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 3: a little bit more about Sunday's game in just a 447 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 3: moment for now. To the phone lines. Brian is calling in. 448 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 3: What's up? Brian? 449 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 8: Hey, what's up Tony? So good job guys as usual. So, Tony, 450 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 8: I'm gonna ask you a question. The first thing you 451 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 8: need on the defense. You need a defensive front, Is 452 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 8: that correct? 453 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? 454 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 3: I mean for multiple reasons, uh, stopping the run and 455 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 3: providing pressure on the quarterback. It doesn't matter if if 456 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 3: Darrell Reeves is out there at the corner. If you 457 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 3: can't pressure the quarterback, you can't cover guys, exactly. 458 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 8: I just got to argue with somebody about this. You 459 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 8: have no pass for us and you can't stop the run. 460 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 8: I don't care if you got be on in Rodney 461 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 8: lot back here, You're not going to start anybody. 462 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, especially in today's football with how athletic, the wide 463 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 3: receivers are and the routes that are being run. If 464 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 3: you cannot put apply pressure, it doesn't matter who's on 465 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 3: the back end of your defense. 466 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 8: Absolutely, But you know I think that and last time 467 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 8: I said this, you guys Pop proved me. 468 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 9: Man. 469 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 8: I always look at I always look at the NFL 470 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 8: mock draft. Right they still have the Bengals taking a 471 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 8: cornerback of the first pick. Every every mack I look 472 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 8: at except one I think had them taking the defensive 473 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,239 Speaker 8: tackle from Miami, who is an animal. I hope they 474 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 8: do that. But secondly, can you move up and is 475 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 8: there a way for the Bengals to leverage picks later 476 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 8: picks and move up in the draft? 477 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 3: You like to think it's it's historically just not what 478 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 3: they do. I mean, it's doable, but it's just not 479 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 3: how the Bengals operate. So it just never feels like 480 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 3: there's any any movement towards that or anything that would 481 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 3: lead you to believe, Okay, that's going to be different. 482 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 3: It's just not who they've been is. 483 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 4: I don't know that that a cornerback would be a 484 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 4: bad thing, though, would it? 485 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 3: Their inability to rush the passer doesn't matter for right now. 486 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 3: So that's the thing. 487 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 4: They have so many picks because they need play. 488 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 3: Or the issue. So in late July, Pro Football Focus 489 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 3: ranked their top secondaries in football going into the twenty 490 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 3: twenty five season. Austin, would you like to guess who 491 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 3: number one was? For Pro Football Focus? 492 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 4: Who's that? 493 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 3: The Baltimore Ravens. Okay, the Baltimore Ravens defense has been 494 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 3: bad for much of the season. Baltimore ranks third from 495 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 3: the bottom in the NFL at sacks this season. So 496 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 3: what many that follow football believed to be the best 497 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 3: secondary on paper is actually one of the worst defenses 498 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 3: right now in points allowed because they can't get after 499 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 3: the passer. They are tied for dead last in the 500 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 3: NFL and sacks the forty nine Ers and the Jaguars. 501 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 8: Wow, that's crazy. 502 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 4: Yeah. 503 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 8: Lastly, I'll say the Bengals problem on defense man, with 504 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 8: these dbs is they do too much grabbing. We learned 505 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 8: in pee wee football you get your butt low and 506 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 8: you and you drive through the ball carrier. You know, 507 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 8: you get down break down. I see a lot of 508 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 8: guys out of position with the Bengals, but the tackling 509 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 8: is horrible. They try to grab everybody. Yeah, getting hitting 510 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 8: and rapping. I don't understand. It takes people's legs out. 511 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 8: I saw the game with the Bengals against the Packers. 512 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 5: It was the end of the game. 513 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 8: I think it was Craft that scored that touchdown. Late 514 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 8: in the game, I saw Cam Taylor Brick run to 515 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 8: the next to the pylon. He had a shot at 516 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 8: the guy and he stopped. I mean, I just think 517 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 8: they're scared to mix it up. They're probably worried that 518 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 8: if they get hurt, you know, that'll move them down 519 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 8: on the death charge. They won't get a chance to play. Sorry, 520 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 8: I'm out of breath from getting my walk in. But 521 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 8: you know, it's it's just there. It looks like they 522 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 8: the defensive backs are there to collect the pay check. 523 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 8: Matter of fact, I saw camp tell the Britt downtown 524 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 8: a few weeks ago partying the night before the game. 525 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 8: I mean, it's it's ridiculous. So they need to have 526 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 8: a meeting and says, if you don't want to be here, 527 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 8: you're not committed. You just here to collect a check. 528 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 8: You need to move on. But with that, yeah, I 529 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 8: say twenty twenty six. 530 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 9: Love. 531 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 8: I love the josh Or it's his name, but josh 532 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 8: Gy I love that. I love that. Pa are either 533 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 8: Bill Chick, Let's get mill Chick. Let's call Billy Chick. 534 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 3: Brian, thank you for the call, man, appreciate it. A 535 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 3: couple of things there. One I don't know about worrying 536 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 3: about injury Austin. I will say this, I don't think 537 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 3: the Bengals defense is tough. 538 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 4: I agree with that. 539 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 3: I don't think they do mix it up. I don't 540 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 3: think they make you feel them during the game. I 541 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 3: don't think they I don't think the game ends and 542 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 3: the opponents like, man, what did we just go through? 543 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 3: That was a battle, that was a war. I think 544 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 3: they do make it easy. Tackling has been a huge issue. 545 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 3: You can certainly echo that, but yeah, it is. It's 546 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 3: been a comedy of airs on the defensive side of 547 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 3: the ball, but more than anything, and I do agree 548 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 3: with Brian. I think it's a soft defense and it's 549 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 3: a defense, as you mentioned in the last segment, we 550 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 3: now know is going to be without again. Shamar Stewart 551 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 3: and Trey Hendrickson on Sunday. Where does the toughness on 552 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 3: the defense come from? Who does it come from? Like? 553 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 3: Who is that guy I don't know, and that I 554 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 3: think at the at the very core of it is 555 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 3: one of the biggest issues with this defense, and it's 556 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 3: a defense. I went back to this for the last 557 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 3: couple of days, Austin. Do you remember how tense it 558 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 3: was after the Bears game in that locker room. 559 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was. 560 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 3: It felt like it was about to boil over, right, 561 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 3: And had this team not went on a bye week, 562 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 3: it might have boiled over. Because the game happened Sunday. 563 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 3: The defensive players left, Jamar Chase and Chase Brown talked 564 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 3: about the defense and there were choice words shared, and 565 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 3: then the defense comes back Monday and then they talk. 566 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 3: But then everyone kind of goes away, and the bye 567 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 3: week happens and it settles a lot of that, and 568 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 3: then you get back to work this week and you 569 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 3: don't really get caught up in that. Why Joe Burrow's 570 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 3: back on the field, Like, man, it's good to see Joe, 571 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 3: and that's your focus. If the Bengals lose on Sunday, Austin, 572 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 3: in a setting where they lose like thirty five to thirty, 573 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 3: there's no way the locker room remains intact, right, I 574 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 3: would think it would get pretty ugly. It would have 575 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 3: to at that point, it would have to. What is 576 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 3: your biggest fear for Sunday's game against the Steelers. 577 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 4: I don't know that I fear anything. 578 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it is a pass rush that, from 579 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 3: a team point of view, is second in the NFL 580 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 3: in sacks. They are significantly behind the Denver Broncos at 581 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 3: forty six. Pittsburgh is tied with Seattle at thirty two, 582 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 3: so they do still get after the quarterback. 583 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 4: I would get I guess it would be what Moe 584 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 4: has talked about a lot, which is Joe Flacco turning 585 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 4: into a pumpkin and them kind of getting blown out. Yeah, 586 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 4: that I guess is the biggest fear. Yep. But yeah, 587 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 4: obviously the defensive side of the ball. Oh yeah, I 588 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 4: mean everything about that. I mean I don't I've come 589 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,959 Speaker 4: to grips with who they are. They're not good. I 590 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 4: expect them to give up thirty five plus points. Oh 591 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 4: My thing is can the Bengals offense keep pace with that? Right? 592 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 4: That's really what it comes down to. 593 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 3: That's like, just just listen to what you just said 594 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 3: on you think that the number starts at thirty five? 595 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the Bengals will need to score at 596 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 4: least forty to win. Oh that's tough, man. They had 597 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 4: to score thirty three to be I. 598 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 3: Completely agree with you. Just hearing it insane, that is 599 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 3: insane to me. 600 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 4: Well, I mean that's. 601 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 3: That is We're talking about historically one of the worst 602 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 3: defenses in football history. 603 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, based off of DVOA, they are 604 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 4: on pace to be the worst since the Niners in 605 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 4: the UH I think seventy nine San Francisco forty nine 606 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 4: er defense, which was statistically the worst of all time. 607 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 3: They are on pace or they are listed for Sunday 608 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 3: as having the highest point total in the NFL, of course, 609 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 3: forty nine and a half. We'll take a break, we'll 610 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 3: come back. We'll try to gather one or more phone 611 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 3: calls and some Jamar Chase audio to finish up our 612 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 3: number one on the Friday Football Friends at ESPN fifteen 613 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 3: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, Team thirty Welcome back Friday Football 614 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 3: Friends and ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Charlie Goldsmith 615 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 3: will join us in just a few minutes. We got 616 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 3: some Jamar Chase audi. We can need to plug in 617 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 3: here at the end of our number two as well. 618 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 3: It's just odd Austin. For much of the week, I 619 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 3: thought our phone lines were down. I know, we didn't 620 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 3: get hardly any calls. Everyone was in just the bye 621 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 3: week mode. And now it looks like people are starting 622 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 3: to wake up a little bit. So let's take some 623 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 3: of these phone calls. Brian, what's up? 624 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 9: What's going on? 625 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 10: How you guys doing this afternoon? 626 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 9: Good? 627 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 3: How are you? 628 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 7: Oh? 629 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 8: Very well? 630 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 10: So I to answer your question, Tony, it's supposed to 631 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 10: come from the coach and the defensive coordinator. 632 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 11: What does this get the. 633 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 10: Attitude of being like tough and like accountable. I think 634 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 10: that's where it's supposed to are. 635 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair. 636 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 10: I mean, I mean, if that's it, it's like, I 637 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 10: don't understand how they're having this historically bad defense. They're 638 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 10: showing up on Tuesday or wins whatever day. I think 639 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 10: they get a day off after the game where dudes 640 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 10: aren't there because they got cut. What what's the I mean, 641 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 10: there's got many people that are willing to make tackles 642 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 10: on other guys practice squads, Like where's the accountability from 643 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 10: the front, from you know, from the top, Because that's 644 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 10: that's what happened with other teams that play this way? 645 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 10: They cut dudes, like, what's going on? 646 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, Brian, I appreciate the call. That's fair. Look, I 647 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 3: think Austin, there's a fine line in miss tackles and 648 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 3: aggressive miss tackles, right, Like, if they're just flying around 649 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 3: like all right, they're they're they're they're playing hard, they're 650 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 3: going after it. Just coming to me though, it just 651 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 3: feels like passive miss tackles, like they're not attacking. I 652 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 3: think there's a difference there. I think that's more of 653 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 3: the frustrating side with this team is they're not just 654 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 3: going out and just saying, you know what, screw it, 655 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 3: let's just go play a thousand miles per hour. And 656 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 3: that was all we talked about in the offseason. Right now, 657 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 3: Golden's gonna simplify things so these guys can just play 658 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 3: fast and confident. Where's that at. 659 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 4: I don't even know if it was that as much 660 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 4: as he just has his finger on the pulse of 661 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 4: developing young players. Oh yeah, they really he finds a 662 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 4: way to you know, respond to there. They respond to 663 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 4: his okay. 664 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 3: Buzzwords, development, fast, simplification. 665 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 2: What's up, Greg, Hey, how's it going good. 666 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 12: I just wanted to ads you were talking to the other, 667 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 12: the guy the other just a little while ago about 668 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 12: miss tackles and not tackling, tackling propertly. Well, you know 669 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 12: it's been a while now, a few weeks, quite a 670 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 12: few weeks. Well, I you know, wanted out of the 671 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 12: offensive line was fact, you know, some mean ass guys 672 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 12: pushing some guys back, maybe raising hell. And what I'm 673 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 12: getting at, I'm just adding to his conversation. I think 674 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 12: this team out there, this whole team, I've been watching 675 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 12: football for a long time, and this whole team is 676 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 12: soft as far as I'm concerned. 677 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think from top to bottom, I think they 678 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 3: are a I don't think they're a tough team. Greg, 679 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 3: thank you for the call, man. We appreciate you as always. 680 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 3: I don't think they're tough on either side of the ball, 681 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 3: I will say, Austin, I think I think Fairchild and 682 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 3: Rivers have a little a little of that dog in them. 683 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 3: I think they got a little bit of a toughness there. 684 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 3: But across the board, I don't think Orlando Brown Junior 685 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 3: is a tough player. I don't think he's blocking through 686 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 3: the whistle, But I do think that that there are 687 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 3: pieces coming together a little bit for them. Charles, what's up? 688 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 11: Yeah? I just want to add to one what one 689 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 11: of the other callers that it seems like Zach Taylor 690 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 11: is not holding the these coaches, assistant coaches and coaches 691 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 11: under him accountable. I mean, where where's Zach Taylor at? 692 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 11: What he He's got to see the same things that 693 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 11: you and that you and Austin are saying. 694 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 8: Where's he at? 695 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 11: Where's that Zach Taylor? It seems like he's in his 696 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 11: office making out of lunch menu or something, and while 697 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 11: the other teams are out there, I mean, all the 698 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 11: players are out there just doing whatever. 699 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,720 Speaker 5: I mean, where where's Zach Taylor on all these issues? 700 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, Charles, I appreciate that. Yeah, thank you. I don't 701 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 3: know if that's a Zach Taylor thing, Austin, I don't 702 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 3: know if that part is a Zach Taylor thing. There's 703 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 3: only so much you can do as the head coach. 704 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 3: If if guys are out before games or whatever, that 705 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 3: there's only so much you can do. These are professionals 706 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 3: as well, grown men. They got to handle themselves accordingly. 707 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 3: A couple more phone calls then we'll get to Charlie. 708 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 4: Also, I do think your Zach's held guys accountable. 709 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. 710 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 3: Dudes have been benched, yeah, Jermaina Burton is a good example. 711 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 3: There's only so much a coach could do with what 712 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 3: guy do on their free time. Correct as adults, it's 713 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,919 Speaker 3: not like they're going to class in college and on scholarship. 714 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 3: They've got to handle themselves like professionals. A couple more here. 715 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 3: What's upbout him? 716 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 4: Adam? Adam? 717 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,839 Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, sorry about that? 718 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 4: What's up? 719 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 3: What's up? 720 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 8: Just thinking about Burrow? 721 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 13: No one I've heard anyone mention and what kind of 722 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 13: numbers would he be putting up if he was in 723 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 13: Still we got Flacco in there, who's killing it? I mean, 724 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 13: I couldn't imagine what is Burrough putting up fifty? Are 725 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 13: we actually winning these games against with no events? I'm 726 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 13: just curious, is what do you guys think? And he's 727 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 13: going to be able to come in and turn something around? 728 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, Adam, thank you man. I feel like they could 729 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,919 Speaker 3: have I don't think they could have done much more. 730 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 4: I feel like they could have won the Green Bay game. Yeah, 731 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 4: I think the Detroit game would have been at least 732 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 4: interesting if not for the atrocious play of Jake Browning. Yeah, 733 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 4: I don't know that it would have mattered in Denver 734 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,720 Speaker 4: or Minnesota all that much. But I mean my answer 735 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 4: to that is Joe would be putting up numbers like 736 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 4: he did last year. Yeah, he's just that type of 737 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 4: player in this offense is humming against the Pittsburgh Steelers. 738 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 4: Ryan Rico punted the ball three times against the New 739 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 4: York Jets. Ryan Rico punted the ball three times against 740 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 4: the Chicago Bears. Ryan Rico punted the ball once. I 741 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 4: don't think Joe Burrow was going to do that much more. 742 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 4: In all honesty, it's fair. What a way to finish 743 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 4: up this hour, Austin, Look at this. 744 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:35,320 Speaker 3: Mike is back. 745 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 4: He's back, Mike. 746 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 3: What's up? 747 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 5: What's going on? 748 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 3: Great to hear your voice, Mike. 749 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been listening to every day. I just had 750 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 5: a lot of things going on. 751 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 3: You had, you had a lot of You've had a 752 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 3: lot of people looking forward to hearing from you. 753 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 754 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was encouraging. It really didn't help lift my 755 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 5: spirits made me feel good. So thank you to everyone. 756 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 5: Thank you to everyone. I really appreciate it. They I 757 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,280 Speaker 5: was thinking about this defense. I try not to because 758 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 5: I'm already sick enough, I already have trouble keeping food down. 759 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 5: But I think back like the Raiders, and I don't 760 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 5: know who cares about this, but I can't help but 761 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 5: think about the Raiders back in the sixties had a 762 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 5: bunch of bad boys on defense. I mean they were 763 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 5: known to be dirty and nasty and mean and commit 764 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 5: personal fouls and nobody cared. And and they had a 765 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 5: linebacker or a defensive end called the Mad Store ten 766 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,879 Speaker 5: Ted Hendricks and Hileosto and all these complete animals, Phil Villapiano, 767 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 5: Willie Burn and then the Steel Curtain with the Pirates. 768 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 5: These guys didn't miss Tutle. These guys played with ferocious intensity. 769 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 5: And then and then the Legion of Doom not that 770 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 5: long ago up in Seattle. This seems to be missing 771 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 5: in the NFL, and I it's gotten The whole league 772 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 5: has gotten softer. 773 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 3: If you ask me, Mike, I think of the ball 774 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 3: more Ravens with Suggs and Ray Lewis and Ed Reid, 775 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 3: you know you think of And I know people at 776 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,359 Speaker 3: the time didn't buy in, but how many people would 777 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 3: take vontez perfect in his Prime on this Bengals defense 778 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 3: right now, did he get penalized at times? Yes, was 779 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 3: he over the limit? But man, he wasn't going to 780 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 3: take anything. He was going to be the one delivering. 781 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 3: He was going to play through the whistle. You have 782 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 3: to have a toughness about you. The most successful teams 783 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,879 Speaker 3: on defense are the teams that when that game is over, 784 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 3: you're sitting around in the locker room like, man, what 785 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 3: in the world did we just go through? That team 786 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 3: is physical, they fly around. It's just it exhausts you. 787 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,879 Speaker 3: And you play against this Bengals defense you feel none 788 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 3: of that. 789 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 5: What now when you were playing, did you have a 790 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 5: particular game or a team that when you've got done, 791 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:53,320 Speaker 5: you felt like you just described, well, Sugar Bowl against Florida, 792 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 5: I mean that defense was ridiculous. 793 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 3: Cam Chancellor was on the defense of Virginia Tech. They 794 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,439 Speaker 3: were physical, but yeah, they there were defenses that you'd 795 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 3: go against that Again, you left that game and you're like, 796 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 3: holy cow, that that was brutal. That was physical, and 797 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 3: it sticks with you a lot more than the easy ones. 798 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 3: Do you remember those defenses? And I just I agree 799 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 3: with you one hundred percent. I just don't think the 800 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 3: Bengals possess that. 801 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 5: I don't either change the subject real quick not It's 802 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 5: not that I ever do that, Matia. I'm really anxious 803 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 5: to the mixed team out of LA and I play Arizona. 804 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 5: That should be a really good ball game, really good 805 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 5: ball game. I love to watch Nick coach on the sidelines. 806 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 5: He's got a cockiness about him that just I love it. 807 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,439 Speaker 3: You see, you see turn the ball over twenty four 808 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 3: times on Tuesday night and a win against Dayton. And 809 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 3: I asked Moeger on Wednesday, I said, how would Bob 810 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 3: Huggins and Mick Cronin have approached that post game if 811 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 3: they had turned the ball over twenty four times? You 812 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 3: wouldn't want to be a player on the team the 813 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,240 Speaker 3: day after a game where you turn it over twenty 814 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 3: four times. Mick, he demands excellence on the defensive side 815 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 3: of the ball. That's where it starts and stops with him. 816 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 3: I appreciate him. I love watching him coach, and you're right, 817 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 3: it should be a fantastic one tonight. Mike's so good 818 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 3: to hear from you. Man. We appreciate you. 819 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate you, guys. And that that rams Seahawks, 820 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,760 Speaker 5: and that's the game of the weekend, right easily. 821 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,439 Speaker 3: Game easily. We're gonna pick that one an hour, number three. 822 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 5: And I wonder if I wonder if McVeigh is going 823 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 5: to throw that three or four tight end thing at him. 824 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 5: He baffled from teams with that stuff. 825 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 3: Thanks guys, yeah, Mike, thank you. All right, we're good, 826 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 3: got some phone calls. We're back to normal. Charlie Goldsmith. 827 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 3: Next on the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty, 828 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,320 Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station. 829 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 14: Wise Cincinnati, make us the number one pre sent on 830 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 14: your car radio and on the free new and improved 831 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:57,280 Speaker 14: iHeartRadio app Free Never sounded so good, ESPN fifteen thirty. 832 00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 4: This is Jeffer. 833 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,799 Speaker 1: This is Tony Like's Friday Football Frenzy Show, brought to 834 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,359 Speaker 1: you in part five fellow Windows and door making life 835 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: writer pelenaw Hey. Later Skyline Shilly Stealing Good. 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It's Friday, It's one o'clock. 844 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 3: Our good friend, Charlie Goldsmith Danny boy to join us 845 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 3: right now. Your talkbacks follow that immediately, Charlie. What's going on? 846 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 3: Than you doing Tony, Charlie, I'm great man. 847 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 9: How are you? I'm doing great? 848 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 3: Let's start with the game on Sunday, Charlie. Coming out 849 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 3: of a bye and the defense we know has not 850 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 3: been good? How much better can the defense get coming 851 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 3: out of a bye with looking at tendencies, with doin 852 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,320 Speaker 3: some self scouting? Are there things available for this defense 853 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 3: to improve with starting on Sunday? 854 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 9: Not as much as say you'd have with the twenty 855 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 9: twenty one or the twenty twenty two Bengals. Those are 856 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 9: teams that I remember talking to Loui an Arrumo about this. 857 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 9: Harry heavily studied their scheme during the bye, came out 858 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 9: with brand new wrinkles, new coverage looks, new blitz packages, 859 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 9: and had things that I remember some of the best 860 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 9: football they played was out of the buy in twenty 861 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,799 Speaker 9: twenty two with these unbelievable wrinkles that lou Anarrumo dove into. Well, 862 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 9: they're not elevating this scheme, they're simplifying this scheme. The 863 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,359 Speaker 9: only you know, they could be running the best scheme 864 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 9: of the world. But what you're seeing right. 865 00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 15: Now is in one on one situations, fundamental technical mistakes, 866 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 15: guys not executing their assignments, and that's stuff that you 867 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,280 Speaker 15: can't sit down in a meeting room in six because 868 00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 15: of the level that they're at. 869 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 9: These young guys just need to play, They need to develop, 870 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:11,720 Speaker 9: they need to grow. 871 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,279 Speaker 3: You went into the weeds a little bit over the 872 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 3: bye week, and you came out of the weeds with 873 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 3: some interesting stuff on the Bengals defense and how they 874 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:24,240 Speaker 3: approach third down defense, in particular, how they're guarding opposing 875 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,320 Speaker 3: team's tight ends. We know tight ends have been an issue. 876 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 3: Pat Fryermuth did make some plays obviously in that first 877 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 3: go round, but talk a little bit about some variations 878 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 3: that maybe we can look for when it comes to 879 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 3: third down Against the Steelers. 880 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 9: Tight ends have been a huge issue this year on 881 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 9: early downs, on first and second downs. Third downs not 882 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 9: as much, but still more than they have been in 883 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 9: the past. But I believe last year outside of the 884 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 9: Kansas City game, they didn't allow a catch to a 885 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 9: tight end on third down all season. Lou An Arumo 886 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 9: very comfortably had the Tray Flowers role, the tight end stopper. 887 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 9: Dejohn Anthony had it. 888 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,399 Speaker 4: He had it well. 889 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 9: This year, they just keep their traditional dime defense on 890 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 9: the field. That's our golden plan. For third downs, they 891 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 9: just bring in Josh Newton, they spread out assignments, the 892 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,879 Speaker 9: safeties get more involved, and there's not a general tight 893 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,799 Speaker 9: end guy. It's one of the biggest just pure schematic 894 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,799 Speaker 9: differences from last year to this year. And it's been 895 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 9: fine but not good enough, but still okay from a 896 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 9: tight end perspective. The one exception, though, is when they 897 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,800 Speaker 9: played the Steelers, they brought back out dj Ivy to 898 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,240 Speaker 9: be their tight end stopper because Pittsford's receiver's depth receiver 899 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 9: depth is that bad, and because they have some nice 900 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 9: tight ends Friar Johnny Smith. You know Washington lefto is 901 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 9: a pass catcher, but still him. They wanted more size 902 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 9: to face tight end, so they brought in dj Ivy 903 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,279 Speaker 9: more on on their dime defense, kind of in the 904 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 9: Luenna Remo style, And I bet we'd see them do 905 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 9: something similar again on. 906 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 3: Sunday, Charlie coming out of a buy. Just from a 907 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 3: personnel standpoint or a scheme standpoint, we know now they're 908 00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 3: going to be without Shamar Stewart and Trey Hendrickson. Anything 909 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 3: they can do to give themselves a competitive advantage by 910 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:04,880 Speaker 3: just the personnel they're going to try to use on 911 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:05,280 Speaker 3: the field. 912 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 9: I did while I was in the weeds, I did 913 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 9: a deep dive on Barrett Carter and I did find 914 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,320 Speaker 9: the one thing that he's doing better than what Logan 915 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 9: Wilson did, and that's what he can do in pass 916 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 9: rush games on third downs. You know, you can have 917 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 9: them kind of be a guy who chases around a pick, 918 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 9: who kind of just kind of shoots out of a 919 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 9: cannon to try to get to the quarterback. Now, sometimes 920 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 9: they'll just miss the tackle, sometimes it'll come up empty. 921 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,760 Speaker 9: But opportunities like that to take advantage of Carter's speed, 922 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 9: and now they did have some more time to work 923 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,320 Speaker 9: on that during the bye week heading into this week. Remember, 924 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 9: Carter made his first start against the Packers and only 925 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,920 Speaker 9: had a short week to get ready for the Steelers. 926 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 9: So one difference could be is what they do from 927 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,439 Speaker 9: a Barrett Carter Blitz perspective, something they've actually had time 928 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,319 Speaker 9: to work on and see how it looks now. But 929 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 9: even with that, the results are far from guaranteed. 930 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 4: What about Cedric Johnson, know he's expected to play a 931 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,760 Speaker 4: little bit more of a role with Trey and Schamar out, 932 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 4: what have the coaches kind of been saying about him, 933 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 4: and obviously had a good offseason and now that he's 934 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 4: back in the fray. 935 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,320 Speaker 9: Well, first, he's the type of guy you want to reward. 936 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 9: He's like on offense We've talked about like Joseavash and 937 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 9: to an even bigger extent, Chase Brown being one of 938 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,880 Speaker 9: the best kind of do everything culture behind the scenes 939 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,240 Speaker 9: about all of the right stuff like and Seid Johnson 940 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 9: really is one of those guys. He does one thing 941 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,320 Speaker 9: very well, which is when he gets into a full sprint, 942 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 9: he can chase down the quarterback and he can kind 943 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:43,759 Speaker 9: of find pressure opportunities with his speed now set not 944 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,280 Speaker 9: as much by a cup of tea, because the pass 945 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 9: rush plan the games, the opportunity and ability on a 946 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 9: down to down basis being consistent at the line of 947 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 9: scrimmage against different types of tackles, winning with power, impacting 948 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 9: the game against the run, all those on his strength. 949 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 9: But he's got the ability to chase down a guy 950 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 9: and he plays pretty discipline, so you know, ideally that 951 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 9: gives him a bit of a spark compared to a 952 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 9: guy like you know, Shamar Stewart who hadn't really been 953 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 9: doing much of anything well as a pass rusher, Cam Sample, 954 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 9: who's been pretty stiff as a pass rusher. So Seed 955 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,160 Speaker 9: Johnson does help because he does a couple of things 956 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 9: at a pretty decent level offensively. 957 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 3: Charlie, what's the challenge now that presents this offense? Because 958 00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 3: they've been so good and they've been so dynamic, go 959 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 3: back to the second half against Green Bay and how 960 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 3: they were against Pittsburgh and the Jets and the Bears. 961 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,080 Speaker 3: Now you go into a buy what's the biggest challenge 962 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,879 Speaker 3: this offense will face in trying to find that consistency 963 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 3: in that scoring on offense again on Sunday. 964 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 9: I think the biggest thing is continuing to have that 965 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,240 Speaker 9: baseline level up front in a way that lets Flaco 966 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 9: operate quickly and with confidence, being confident that when he 967 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 9: throws the ball in the game, then he'll be able 968 00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 9: to do so clean. That's very important because and he 969 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 9: doesn't have that. That's where you see Flacco's well documented 970 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,840 Speaker 9: historical you know, turnover issues both fumbled in interceptions become 971 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,279 Speaker 9: a bigger part of the equation. So letting Flaco continue 972 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 9: to operate consistently with that, that's going to be the 973 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 9: name of the game for this Bengals offense for as 974 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 9: long as flackos their quarterback. Because there's really only one 975 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 9: style they can play. And we'll just some of what 976 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,840 Speaker 9: they do against Pittsburgh based off some of their personnel. 977 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 9: You know, Joey Porter Junior is the corner they have 978 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 9: a lot of respect for, obviously a lot of fear 979 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,920 Speaker 9: for TJ. Watt and for Cam Hayward. But there's still 980 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 9: one clean vision of how looks that we saw them 981 00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,120 Speaker 9: execute pretty perfectly the first time against Pittsburgh. They're going 982 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 9: to have to pretty much recreate. 983 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 5: That on Sunday. 984 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 3: Defensively, for Pittsburgh, they played so much man the first 985 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,880 Speaker 3: go around, and it's well documented the targets and the 986 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 3: catches that Jamar Chase was able to have. They just 987 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 3: didn't want to play zone defense. And I remember watching 988 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 3: Thursday Night Football and watching along and watching halftime, and 989 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 3: everyone's just shocked that pittsbe is not changing from man demand. 990 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 3: Now that they've had a chance to, I think regroup. 991 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,839 Speaker 3: Jalen Ramsey's playing some more safety. Do you envision them 992 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 3: still trying to go man demand or do we see 993 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 3: more zone on Sunday against the Steelers. 994 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:14,879 Speaker 5: The biggest thing. 995 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 9: I'm expecting, whether it's man or zone, is just for 996 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,240 Speaker 9: them to show a lot of fear in both Jamar 997 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 9: and T. I just think as a whole, when you 998 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:23,960 Speaker 9: look at the way they're going to try to deploy 999 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 9: their resources, it's a unit that's going to try to 1000 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 9: take them away above all else. That's kind of how 1001 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 9: all of the defenses have been playing a pretty much 1002 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,320 Speaker 9: the majority of these defenses have been playing the Bengals 1003 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,799 Speaker 9: this year. They haven't seen so much double double this year. 1004 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 9: There have been so many cases where teams change everything 1005 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 9: of what they do and what they're built on and 1006 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 9: their philosophy and their foundation to play more double double 1007 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 9: against Tomar and T because they're, you know, such a 1008 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 9: unique receiving duo in the league. So I would look 1009 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 9: at Pittsburgh continuing to kind of fall into that bucket 1010 00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,360 Speaker 9: as opposed to maybe going down the general adjustment process 1011 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 9: use if they were just facing the normal, typically built 1012 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 9: offense this week. 1013 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,320 Speaker 3: The rebuttal to that for the Bengals would be Andre Yosi, 1014 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 3: Vash Tanner, Hudson, Noah, Mitchell Tinsley. Those four receivers combined 1015 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 3: for ten catches in this team's last game against the 1016 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,439 Speaker 3: Chicago Bears. How important is the emergence? And you could 1017 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,800 Speaker 3: throw Chase Brown into that as well, who had eight catches. 1018 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,239 Speaker 3: How important is the emergence of those receivers if a 1019 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 3: team is gonna come out and double double Tea and Jamar. 1020 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 9: So first, I mean, there are examples we can point 1021 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 9: to this year, Like Jamar had a double move go 1022 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,840 Speaker 9: against the Lions. He had a bench route against the Bears. 1023 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 9: I can't think of as many off the top of 1024 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:42,799 Speaker 9: my head with Tea, but but I guarantee you they 1025 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 9: I feel like the slant for a touchdown against the Steelers, 1026 00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,120 Speaker 9: Like the Bengals have routes and concepts that they feel 1027 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,799 Speaker 9: pretty confident in to still get them the ball when 1028 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 9: those guys are doubled and we've seen that on tape. 1029 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 9: We've seen that, you know, that was the whole Bengals 1030 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 9: offense in the second half of the twenty twenty two 1031 00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,759 Speaker 9: AFC Championship game, trying to find ways get them the ball, 1032 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 9: and they've shown that they can still do that and 1033 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,919 Speaker 9: get big plays when teams try to take them away. 1034 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 8: But yes, I've held on. 1035 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 9: To and andre Yosivos stock along and what's been a 1036 00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,759 Speaker 9: turbulent season for him. I trust him to win in 1037 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:18,440 Speaker 9: one on one opportunities. And Sam has just had a nice, solid, 1038 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,400 Speaker 9: healthy season and it's been exactly what the Bengals were 1039 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,359 Speaker 9: hoping for when they signed him. And you know, he's 1040 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,960 Speaker 9: throwing a dash here and there from Kinsley and Hudson overall, 1041 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 9: you wish still were a little more speed they were 1042 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,839 Speaker 9: getting from their still guys behind the top two they 1043 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 9: still desperately missed Jermaine Burton. I've been thinking about that 1044 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,400 Speaker 9: a lot. You beat double double with a guy with 1045 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 9: great downfield speed who can turn in an explosive play 1046 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:44,799 Speaker 9: down the down the field out of the slot, like 1047 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,880 Speaker 9: they're missing that still. But on the whole, you like 1048 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 9: where you're at. 1049 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,960 Speaker 4: How shocked were you when you saw the news that 1050 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,719 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow was going to be returning to practice and 1051 00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 4: that his window was open, And what has kind of 1052 00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 4: been the reaction internally from what you've. 1053 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 9: It's something that if he continues on the track he's on, 1054 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:10,239 Speaker 9: becomes the second biggest story of his career, the biggest being, 1055 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 9: of course, leading the Bengals to the Super Bowl in 1056 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 9: year two and rewriting the narrative at the time about 1057 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 9: how the Bengals were and how they felt and what 1058 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 9: they represented around the league. Again, They've got to get 1059 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 9: back there now. But it would be the craziest story 1060 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 9: of Joe's career. You know, I'm just imagining what if 1061 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 9: he did come back against Baltimore and play at a 1062 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 9: high level and lead the Bengals to the win, to 1063 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:35,880 Speaker 9: a win. Now, I'm kind of saving that that admiration, 1064 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 9: that adoration, all that reflection until Burrow actually does it. 1065 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 9: I'm kind of keeping the the I'm keeping a little 1066 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,239 Speaker 9: bit of a distance right now because this is the 1067 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 9: part where things get muddy, where you know, how does 1068 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,120 Speaker 9: Burrow react when he does this. Here's where he's really 1069 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 9: testing himself, seeing what he can risk, seeing what he 1070 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 9: can't risk so I can't be like two over the 1071 00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,480 Speaker 9: moon impressed yet until I really see how what's on field. 1072 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,640 Speaker 9: But then once he's there, I mean, we've got all 1073 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,360 Speaker 9: the time in the world to say how unbelievable this 1074 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:06,520 Speaker 9: comeback Crossss has been. 1075 00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 4: Do you think the Bengals would tell him no, if 1076 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,319 Speaker 4: they win the next two or if they lose the 1077 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 4: next two weeks, maybe you give it. 1078 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,880 Speaker 9: Another week in that in that scenario, but I also 1079 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,720 Speaker 9: think Burrow needs to play for the good of the 1080 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 9: twenty twenty six Bengals like to basically go two full 1081 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 9: years without playing football. To me, that's too much, that's 1082 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,720 Speaker 9: too long. You know, we've forgot We've gone so far 1083 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 9: past the slow start storyline. If only that were the Bengals' 1084 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 9: biggest problems still. But if you want to avoid a 1085 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 9: slow start in twenty twenty six, you have to play 1086 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 9: Burrow down the stretch in twenty twenty five or else 1087 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:39,280 Speaker 9: there's just too much. 1088 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 3: Russ Charlie, we would be were missed not to ask 1089 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:46,440 Speaker 3: you because you were at the Major League Baseball GM meetings, 1090 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 3: any interesting Reds nuggets that you have to share from 1091 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,440 Speaker 3: what you learned The. 1092 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 9: Hunter Green trade rumors have been a non story all along, 1093 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,280 Speaker 9: Elie de la Cruz staying at shortstop. The Red's biggest 1094 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:03,440 Speaker 9: focus is, you know, kind of rebuilding, strengthening their bullpen 1095 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 9: with a guy who probably has high leverage experience as 1096 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,640 Speaker 9: well as the left handers. Now, what I expect our 1097 00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:13,560 Speaker 9: approach to be there is, let's see where the price 1098 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,720 Speaker 9: points and values go so you can get a deal 1099 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,520 Speaker 9: that would That would be a win for the Reds 1100 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,120 Speaker 9: from a value perspective, because they're not going to be 1101 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 9: able to go out and splurge and get like the 1102 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,480 Speaker 9: top guy on their board and beed out another team 1103 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 9: in a bidding wharf. There's one guy who in a 1104 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,400 Speaker 9: dream scenario they'd have circled with just fifteen to twenty 1105 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 9: million dollars to spend. That's just not the market they're 1106 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,800 Speaker 9: going to be playing in fit to spend for the 1107 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,560 Speaker 9: whole roster, you know, adding to the roster. So from 1108 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 9: that perspective, look at the bullpen. Can they add in 1109 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,720 Speaker 9: some depths or tube on the position players side, a 1110 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,360 Speaker 9: platoon piece who can hit lefties, That overall would be 1111 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,120 Speaker 9: their main course for the offseason. 1112 00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,400 Speaker 4: How long do you think there was a conversation about 1113 00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:02,720 Speaker 4: Ellie potentially switching positions and do you know if there 1114 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,520 Speaker 4: is a particular plan with him to shore up his 1115 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,760 Speaker 4: defense at shortstop, if he's going to stay there. 1116 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 9: It was a realistic conversation out how long the conversation 1117 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 9: went on behind closed doors, I can't keep you those specifics, 1118 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 9: but you know I heard public Land privately, you know 1119 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 9: it's cross sat at the end of the year, like 1120 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,360 Speaker 9: Ellie's their shortstop right now, and didn't give a definitive 1121 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,920 Speaker 9: answer on that. That backs up what I heard behind 1122 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,480 Speaker 9: the scene that obviously you have the definitive answer for now. 1123 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 9: So sure there was some gray area that probably meant 1124 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,680 Speaker 9: there was a conversation, but ultimately what they what they 1125 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 9: you know, came to the conclusion was Ellie they felt 1126 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 9: that I think you both agree with this. His defense 1127 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,960 Speaker 9: was was pretty solid in the first half of the year, 1128 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,840 Speaker 9: especially for a twenty three year old, and then in 1129 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,040 Speaker 9: the second half it really fell off. Now, the story 1130 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:52,880 Speaker 9: of his second half, we all know if he was hurt, 1131 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 9: he was playing too much. So there there, I their 1132 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 9: their vision is if he gets some more strategic off days, 1133 00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,240 Speaker 9: maybe a day here and then, and you keep them 1134 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 9: fresh in twenty twenty six because you don't make the 1135 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,040 Speaker 9: same mistake of playing him every day like you did 1136 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,760 Speaker 9: in twenty twenty five, and you have Freddie benavide'z work 1137 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:14,200 Speaker 9: on him specifically with some stuff on the throws and 1138 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 9: the arm angles and the footwork to make all that 1139 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,880 Speaker 9: think up on a play to play basis better. They 1140 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 9: feel more than good enough about Elliot Short. 1141 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:27,440 Speaker 4: At what point for this group does youth and inexperience 1142 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 4: stop being a crutch for maybe some of their struggles. 1143 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,919 Speaker 9: Well, the plan is to be young and stay young, 1144 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 9: and that that's just who they are. That's where they're 1145 01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,240 Speaker 9: at now, and you can win that way. The Brewers 1146 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,840 Speaker 9: were unbelievably. They just played a cleaner, smarter, more efficient 1147 01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 9: brand of baseball. So for me, my focus is on 1148 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:53,360 Speaker 9: looking the Red do behind the scenes to solidify, streamline 1149 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 9: perfect their style of play and how they teach it 1150 01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,720 Speaker 9: and how they execute it. That's where my focus is. 1151 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,080 Speaker 9: You know, they're not going to be in a spot 1152 01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 9: like I don't know, even like the Cubs, where they've 1153 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,000 Speaker 9: got veterans at most of those key spots on the field. 1154 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,760 Speaker 9: So this is just who the Reds are and where 1155 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,800 Speaker 9: they're at and they just got to be better or 1156 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,240 Speaker 9: else they're going to be a big disappointment. They're fighting 1157 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,640 Speaker 9: against that and they believe they're gonna figure it out. 1158 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,520 Speaker 3: Charlie, I would be remiss not to ask you about 1159 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,560 Speaker 3: the showdown at Nippert Stadium tomorrow. Everyone's talking about BYU 1160 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,720 Speaker 3: and what that game could mean. This is a massive 1161 01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,000 Speaker 3: one tomorrow for the Bearcats, coming off the buy and 1162 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,720 Speaker 3: the bad loss to Utah. How confident are you and 1163 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:34,439 Speaker 3: what the Bearcats can do to get back on track. 1164 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,000 Speaker 9: Two big focuses. First, you know, we all know the 1165 01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:41,280 Speaker 9: story of Brendan Swergby's season last year and how there 1166 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,960 Speaker 9: was positive momentum and then negative momentum. 1167 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,000 Speaker 11: This is you know, coming. 1168 01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,439 Speaker 9: Off the game work sort you know, had a bad day. 1169 01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:50,320 Speaker 8: This is a chance for him. 1170 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,400 Speaker 9: To re establish some of that upward trajectory. And if 1171 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,680 Speaker 9: you can take that then into such a massive game 1172 01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:00,880 Speaker 9: the following week against the YU, now you're cooking or else. 1173 01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 9: If you can't re establish that momentum in the passing game, 1174 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 9: you're on that, you know, soul searching kind of got 1175 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,840 Speaker 9: to figure things out mindset heading into the biggest game 1176 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,960 Speaker 9: of every year. So that's important to me? Would Storey also 1177 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,400 Speaker 9: interested to see Dote corleone? How is he looking? What's 1178 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,440 Speaker 9: his snap count like? What's the confidence like right now? 1179 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,400 Speaker 9: In the run defense? Can he be more of a 1180 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,040 Speaker 9: playmaker in it? Those are the two big things. 1181 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,600 Speaker 3: For me tomorrow. Awesome, Charlie. We can't thank you enough 1182 01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,040 Speaker 3: each and every Friday for joining us. The best to 1183 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 3: follow along with everything that you have covered right now 1184 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 3: is what. 1185 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,000 Speaker 9: Just Charlie shockboard on substack got a story up on 1186 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:38,240 Speaker 9: DJ Turner and his season up right now. 1187 01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:39,200 Speaker 8: So thanks for. 1188 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 3: Having me, Charlie, thanks so much. A good weekend. 1189 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:44,840 Speaker 9: See you guys have a good weekend all right. 1190 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,680 Speaker 3: That's Charlie Goldsmith. That means your talkbacks Chucky Vegas are 1191 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:52,200 Speaker 3: now next after this break the Friday Football Frenzy on 1192 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,400 Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 1193 01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,320 Speaker 16: Now your chance to win a thousand dollars entered this 1194 01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,000 Speaker 16: nationwide keyword on our website. 1195 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:00,880 Speaker 17: Win. 1196 01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 9: That's win. 1197 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,040 Speaker 4: Answer it now, Hey, Alexa's. 1198 01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 18: Talk bags, go and grab your phone and record a message. 1199 01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:11,120 Speaker 4: Just hit that microphone. 1200 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 3: Please keep it clean and don't be mean. And those 1201 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,960 Speaker 3: sprinkle sprinkle, drip, drip drip. 1202 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:19,600 Speaker 4: It's that time. For talk back. 1203 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's stuck favorite party since three sixty. 1204 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,680 Speaker 19: So Austin, buddy, play those talkbacks on your screen and 1205 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:29,440 Speaker 19: please drive. 1206 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:30,160 Speaker 4: Not to Sabat. 1207 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,040 Speaker 3: I think my favorite part of that is the drip drip. 1208 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, I wonder how unless you maybe 1209 01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:40,120 Speaker 4: you're listening on the app, if you can hear it, 1210 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,760 Speaker 4: just because it's really subtle. I mean I can hear 1211 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,400 Speaker 4: it in my headphones with like these really good headphones. 1212 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:50,160 Speaker 4: So it's just an incredible, exquisite detail. It is from 1213 01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:56,080 Speaker 4: the former president. It is phenomenal. Tony Austin, all do 1214 01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:57,200 Speaker 4: what it does. 1215 01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:03,880 Speaker 20: Hey, man, I talk for a long time, but I'm back. Okay, 1216 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:08,360 Speaker 20: we're gonna beat these stealers. Joe Flacco's gonna do the 1217 01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:12,640 Speaker 20: job he was paid to do. Not that they're paying 1218 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,880 Speaker 20: him a whole lot, but they better sign him next year. 1219 01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:19,760 Speaker 20: But anyway, Flacco gets her done to set up Joe 1220 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:21,600 Speaker 20: Burrow to beat Drake. 1221 01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 21: Okay, thank you, thank you, Jeff, Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. 1222 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,840 Speaker 21: This is your captain speaking. We are about to encounter 1223 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 21: some rough air. I have turned on the fastened seatbelt sign. 1224 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,320 Speaker 21: There will be no beverage service. See you in hell. 1225 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:41,840 Speaker 11: Awesome. 1226 01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,880 Speaker 3: My god says he used to call you Tony pick 1227 01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:45,600 Speaker 3: because of. 1228 01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 4: Why he really just sets the scene for you. That 1229 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,640 Speaker 4: was just a lot going on there. Six seven six. 1230 01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:10,520 Speaker 22: Seven start bench cut brother, Buddy bub. 1231 01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,760 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm cutting Buddy. I'll bench bub, I'll start Brother, 1232 01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:17,440 Speaker 4: I'll start Brother. I think good friend, brother. 1233 01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:19,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's my good friend. 1234 01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:24,000 Speaker 23: Hey guys, it's store in Atlanta or I've always been 1235 01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:29,640 Speaker 23: very skeptical of Scott Saderfield, but I was slowly coming around. 1236 01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,640 Speaker 23: That wasn't until last week when they got blowed out 1237 01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:37,840 Speaker 23: by Utah. I always thought Scott Scotderfield was just dumb. 1238 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,439 Speaker 23: The fact that he's only thrown to Jeorge Warrior once 1239 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,440 Speaker 23: in each of the last two games is his proof 1240 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:46,640 Speaker 23: of that. I am not optimistic about the next three games. 1241 01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,959 Speaker 3: I can't control the whole who he's targeting and where, 1242 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,400 Speaker 3: but I do agree that they should probably target Joe Royer. 1243 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:58,440 Speaker 16: Moore, Happy Pride, everybody, Wow, great May, It's so much 1244 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,640 Speaker 16: fun to watch Patrick Unifors did not care for it 1245 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,280 Speaker 16: looked like something just standards slap together stuff from a 1246 01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,280 Speaker 16: video game with some fade of blue and a Patriots logo. 1247 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,320 Speaker 16: There's so much more you could have done there. I mean, 1248 01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,240 Speaker 16: come on, do better, Bingals, Steelers hope it's not a 1249 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,200 Speaker 16: get right game for Rogers. Got to wait to keep 1250 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:17,160 Speaker 16: these slim playoff hopes alive. And hey, Tony, when you 1251 01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,360 Speaker 16: returned back to the station, did you negotiate in the 1252 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:21,440 Speaker 16: Team Pike takeover? 1253 01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,120 Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't get the I don't know if 1254 01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,360 Speaker 3: that's true. I didn't get the I think. 1255 01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,360 Speaker 4: He did on Fridays. 1256 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:34,200 Speaker 24: I think you have Tommy G from FC Cincinnati on 1257 01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,880 Speaker 24: So last night I was watching a Facebook reel where 1258 01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,520 Speaker 24: the top half of the screen was to play on 1259 01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:43,720 Speaker 24: the field and the bottom half was showing the announcers 1260 01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:49,080 Speaker 24: booth with Tommy G during news goals. Man, Uh, they 1261 01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:53,120 Speaker 24: were going crazy in that booth. Tommy G just absolutely 1262 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,160 Speaker 24: bleeds orange and blue. 1263 01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:56,439 Speaker 13: Man. 1264 01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:01,680 Speaker 3: Good for him, Tommy G. Love FC Cincinnati. 1265 01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 25: It's the Lord. Hey Austin, Hey Tony, Hey Austin. 1266 01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:06,640 Speaker 1: Guess what. 1267 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:10,480 Speaker 25: I'm going to my first Ohio State game this Sunday. Wow, 1268 01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,160 Speaker 25: I can't wait. I think it'll be a lot of 1269 01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:16,520 Speaker 25: fun and then want to come home On Sunday. I'm 1270 01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:22,320 Speaker 25: going to watch the Bengals beat the Steelers forty nine 1271 01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:24,360 Speaker 25: to twenty one. 1272 01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:28,680 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, So confirmation God is a Buckeye fan. Wow, 1273 01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:33,000 Speaker 4: that's big game starts at what's seven thirty? Get down there, 1274 01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,160 Speaker 4: I don't know, round seven, seven thirty in the morning, 1275 01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:35,880 Speaker 4: Get after it. 1276 01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,000 Speaker 26: Hey, fellas, I'm sitting there watching the movie last night. 1277 01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:44,920 Speaker 26: And no disrespect at all, Austin. But has anybody ever 1278 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,800 Speaker 26: told you you look an awful lot like the actor 1279 01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:53,960 Speaker 26: Josh gad John Now, hey, say what you want, laugh 1280 01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 26: if you want. But he's thought he's a good actor, 1281 01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,680 Speaker 26: all right, heiny's the worst. Put a little hair on 1282 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:06,640 Speaker 26: top of that head, man, I'm telling you, Josh Dad all. 1283 01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,480 Speaker 4: Right, I'm looking him up right now. The pictures of 1284 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:13,000 Speaker 4: him with a beard, Yes, I could see it without 1285 01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:18,080 Speaker 4: a beard. My jaw is not that square. But I 1286 01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:21,599 Speaker 4: you know, okay it there's that's a new one. I'd 1287 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,280 Speaker 4: never heard of him before. You think that's a term 1288 01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:26,280 Speaker 4: of endearment, No, I don't think it is a term 1289 01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 4: of endearment, But I don't you know. He said no disrespect, 1290 01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:30,519 Speaker 4: so I'll take his word for it. 1291 01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,879 Speaker 27: Greig Sharonville, Greig, my wish list for the weekend. 1292 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,519 Speaker 3: Tell me you see win love it a Bengal win. 1293 01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:40,439 Speaker 27: Love it, Ohio State win and a Notre Dame loss, 1294 01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:45,799 Speaker 27: because already this morning I heard if Notre Dame loses 1295 01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:50,960 Speaker 27: to Pittsburgh, there's still a path with three losses for 1296 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:55,240 Speaker 27: them to the playoffs. That is absolutely laughable. 1297 01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,679 Speaker 3: Who gets in with two losses? Notre Dame or Texas? 1298 01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,400 Speaker 4: Uh? Probably Texas. Okay, I would. 1299 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:10,320 Speaker 9: Assume, Tony, little Joe here, why don't you keep family's 1300 01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,599 Speaker 9: name out the business of waste management? 1301 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,439 Speaker 3: If you know what I mean, They're always listening. This 1302 01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:17,760 Speaker 3: is why I should never say anything. 1303 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,000 Speaker 28: Hey, guys, Jeff and your Richmond have a great weekend. 1304 01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:26,479 Speaker 28: My predictions Elder and Moler will advance this weekend in 1305 01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:30,280 Speaker 28: high school football. Then we've got the Bearcats winning football 1306 01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:34,120 Speaker 28: tomorrow thirty to twenty on, we've got the basketball team 1307 01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:38,280 Speaker 28: winning big as well this weekend, and finally the Bengals. 1308 01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,919 Speaker 28: They will win forty two to thirty eight. Joe Flacco 1309 01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:46,000 Speaker 28: gets hurt late, Joe Burrow engineers the game winning drive. 1310 01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:48,160 Speaker 3: Let's go. 1311 01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:51,360 Speaker 4: Burrow's not gonna be active, Let's go all right? 1312 01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:57,600 Speaker 29: Hey there talking mafia, Tony, do you think truly reelected 1313 01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:03,280 Speaker 29: aftab Puval is gonna to tell Patrick mahomes Daddy's back 1314 01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,599 Speaker 29: once Burrow starts his first game. 1315 01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:09,560 Speaker 4: I still can't believe the tab. 1316 01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:16,280 Speaker 3: Said, oh no, defense nicknames the Matadors. 1317 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:22,920 Speaker 16: Ohny's scoreboard, fatigue coverage trailer, Britt. 1318 01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:33,040 Speaker 7: Sieve, Oh my gosh, tackle me, Elmo, and Owl's golden shot. 1319 01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:36,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can figure out how that one look. 1320 01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:40,559 Speaker 30: East Side, reliable sources report that Aaron Rodgers was spot 1321 01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:42,880 Speaker 30: in the corner of pucks a tiny and alleghany at 1322 01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,560 Speaker 30: the Quickie Mark with a carton of American spirits and 1323 01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,320 Speaker 30: a six pack of Hey Bud like to enjoy his 1324 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,400 Speaker 30: time in the pocket this Sunday versus the Bengals. I 1325 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:53,000 Speaker 30: I sure hope the Bengal is one of the Bardi 1326 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,479 Speaker 30: Trophy for your pops and the rest of us long 1327 01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,400 Speaker 30: suffering Bengals fans out there. Let's wager a fresh as 1328 01:10:58,439 --> 01:10:59,840 Speaker 30: ice cream fudge Sunday. 1329 01:10:59,520 --> 01:10:59,960 Speaker 4: To the face. 1330 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,840 Speaker 30: It doesn't happen under the watch of your beloved Zat 1331 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:03,880 Speaker 30: and Mike Brown. 1332 01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:10,640 Speaker 4: Have a great weekend. Well, fishes won't be around. No, 1333 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:12,559 Speaker 4: I don't even know if it is around anymore. 1334 01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:17,160 Speaker 31: That's gone, Hey, Jeff from the piers. One thing I 1335 01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:18,760 Speaker 31: noticed seems to me that. 1336 01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:23,719 Speaker 19: The Bearcats in their secondary against Utah. They were there 1337 01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:27,720 Speaker 19: on coverage much of the time, and a lot of 1338 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:32,599 Speaker 19: the passes from Utah were seemed to be short and 1339 01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,040 Speaker 19: they were getting hitting a butt hitting the back. 1340 01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,640 Speaker 31: You know, the pass was behind him, Tony. Is it 1341 01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:42,360 Speaker 31: that difficult for them to turn around? Yes, and look 1342 01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:42,880 Speaker 31: at the ball. 1343 01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:47,200 Speaker 3: It's my number one issue with their defense. Their corners 1344 01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:50,320 Speaker 3: are in position so much to make plays and they 1345 01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,800 Speaker 3: don't turn their head. I would if I played against UC, 1346 01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,600 Speaker 3: I would throw eight deep balls at minimum in the 1347 01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,000 Speaker 3: game just because of how poorly they have played the 1348 01:11:59,000 --> 01:11:59,559 Speaker 3: ball in the air. 1349 01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:01,160 Speaker 4: It's awful. 1350 01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,360 Speaker 7: Mike in La, what up my. 1351 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:06,120 Speaker 9: Real quick? 1352 01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,479 Speaker 7: If you dictate what I get to talk about, you 1353 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:12,280 Speaker 7: kiss my butt and. 1354 01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:13,720 Speaker 4: So that's the last time. 1355 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:17,680 Speaker 5: That's good. 1356 01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:19,400 Speaker 4: It was a difference in opinion. 1357 01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:20,519 Speaker 3: I enjoy talking to Mike. 1358 01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:21,519 Speaker 2: Do too that. 1359 01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:24,200 Speaker 4: I love you, man. 1360 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:24,960 Speaker 2: Let me tell you what. 1361 01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,519 Speaker 3: If you're listening to Mike, I welcome your phocast. 1362 01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:29,280 Speaker 32: I do too. 1363 01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:31,000 Speaker 3: I would love to hear from you. 1364 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:31,320 Speaker 17: Mike. 1365 01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:37,040 Speaker 4: Beautifully done, man, beautifully done. 1366 01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:39,840 Speaker 16: Hey guys, Marc from the Groves. 1367 01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:44,400 Speaker 17: I would like to nominate the Columbus Cruise manager as 1368 01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:48,720 Speaker 17: the clown of the year. After his remarks, so, I 1369 01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,200 Speaker 17: guess this reds fands next year. We no longer have 1370 01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,800 Speaker 17: to worry about wins and losses, particularly, just make sure 1371 01:12:54,880 --> 01:13:03,200 Speaker 17: you outscore them in a series. According to him. 1372 01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:02,719 Speaker 19: Just wow. 1373 01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:07,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, not great for Wilfried Nancy. The gaffa for the 1374 01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:11,799 Speaker 4: Columbus Crew he's you know, apparently he didn't know the rules, 1375 01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,439 Speaker 4: which is it's a best of three, which means if 1376 01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:18,759 Speaker 4: you lose two out of three, you're eliminated. But the 1377 01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:22,600 Speaker 4: crew lost two out of three, so they were eliminated. 1378 01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:26,360 Speaker 4: Although in the series they scored five goals and Cincinnati 1379 01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:30,160 Speaker 4: scored three. It's just that all theirs came basically in 1380 01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:34,800 Speaker 4: one fell swoop and a victory. Yeah, Wilfried Nancy not 1381 01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:35,479 Speaker 4: a bright guy. 1382 01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,200 Speaker 3: One of the biggest things about being a manager or 1383 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,920 Speaker 3: a skipper or a coach is knowing the actual rules. 1384 01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:43,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they didn't tell him afterwards, he knew 1385 01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:44,720 Speaker 4: he was eliminated. 1386 01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:50,599 Speaker 33: Happy Friday, gentlemen. I knowles get changed, but how very 1387 01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:57,960 Speaker 33: disappointing to have no Tommy g today, especially big molessed. 1388 01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:02,479 Speaker 33: Change is just announced saying have a great weekend. 1389 01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,280 Speaker 4: Yep, yep, Well we'll good Tommy back. Maybe have been 1390 01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,120 Speaker 4: for an hour next week, Yeah, maybe we let him know. 1391 01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:13,200 Speaker 34: Tony Beastick hits the mail man on this Friday football frenzy. 1392 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,080 Speaker 4: I don't got any words for the Bengals. Hope they win, 1393 01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:19,000 Speaker 4: but who knows. But I do have a couple of good. 1394 01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:22,000 Speaker 17: Words for the Soul Lancers and my son going up 1395 01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:22,839 Speaker 17: against Anderson. 1396 01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:26,879 Speaker 4: Hopefully it's a nice one. It's gonna be tough. Twenty 1397 01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:31,360 Speaker 4: one seventeen Lancers. Let's go and take the victory. You 1398 01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,920 Speaker 4: guys have other best day ever. 1399 01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:37,240 Speaker 3: You hold that Anderson team under twenty. You're doing the 1400 01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:40,479 Speaker 3: Lord's work. Carmeline, it's a loane. That's a good squad 1401 01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,200 Speaker 3: shooting too. It's a good squad. 1402 01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:45,880 Speaker 22: Hey, guys, Hank Hill, here what I heard my name 1403 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,160 Speaker 22: mentioned the other day on your shoe? 1404 01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:49,280 Speaker 4: Uh? 1405 01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,040 Speaker 22: I got an idea for you. How about Donald Trump 1406 01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:57,160 Speaker 22: as your defensive coordinator? I mean, look at how reading ahead. 1407 01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:01,439 Speaker 4: We don't need That's not Hank. 1408 01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,719 Speaker 3: Tank would know. We don't really talk politics on this show. 1409 01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:07,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't need to do that. Do appreciate you 1410 01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:12,360 Speaker 4: leaving a talk back, But I immediately thought of I immediately 1411 01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:16,080 Speaker 4: thought of Buddy the elf when he says, you don't 1412 01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,920 Speaker 4: smell like Santa, you smell like beef and cheese. That's 1413 01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,120 Speaker 4: who that was, Bargain Ben Hank Hill right there. 1414 01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:25,080 Speaker 35: Wow, Austin and Toni's Boomerdre from South Bend. 1415 01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:26,479 Speaker 4: Bo Yeah. 1416 01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,040 Speaker 35: So what's the history with Barrett Carter and Demetrius Knight 1417 01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:29,599 Speaker 35: on tackling? 1418 01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:29,880 Speaker 19: Man? 1419 01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:31,920 Speaker 35: I mean, you can't make it to the NFL if 1420 01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:35,320 Speaker 35: you haven't been a decent tackler, especially at linebacker. Pretty 1421 01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:39,200 Speaker 35: anxious to see action, I mean, why the hell not 1422 01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:43,600 Speaker 35: so Friday? Bad joke. Oh buddy of mine had to 1423 01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:47,080 Speaker 35: go with the doctor. Thought he was invisible, but the 1424 01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:52,360 Speaker 35: doctor couldn't see him. Have a great weekend, guys, Thank you. 1425 01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:57,439 Speaker 34: Hey guys, Brenda Wilsers to drop the line and you're 1426 01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,000 Speaker 34: talking about what and some tough meat people on beefense. 1427 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,120 Speaker 34: So I don't think that's gonna happen. We got mister 1428 01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:05,080 Speaker 34: Rogers as a head coach. I mean, Zach Taylor strikes 1429 01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:06,960 Speaker 34: me as being probably one of the nicest people you'd 1430 01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,320 Speaker 34: ever want to run into. But that's not what we 1431 01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,360 Speaker 34: want on our team. 1432 01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:12,920 Speaker 9: I don't know, guys, you. 1433 01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:19,559 Speaker 4: Have a good one. Go Anderson a lot and anders n. 1434 01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:26,320 Speaker 12: Well, Joe Burrow is back, Mike in La is back. 1435 01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:28,679 Speaker 4: That can mean only one thing. 1436 01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,240 Speaker 28: Kyle Schwarber is coming back to a baby. 1437 01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:36,640 Speaker 4: Oh friends, being Slowey figured out earlier this morning, the 1438 01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,320 Speaker 4: Reds are gonna sign Carl Schwarber and try to tell 1439 01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:40,040 Speaker 4: everybody it's. 1440 01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,840 Speaker 3: Kyle rep in the city out here in sunny hot Zona. 1441 01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,559 Speaker 4: What up, Tony man? You see? Don't let me down. 1442 01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,120 Speaker 4: I'm out here talking that talk and I'm barking that 1443 01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,040 Speaker 4: beat zone. Were about to smack Zona. 1444 01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,760 Speaker 32: I was flexing out here always, And Yo, why am 1445 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,760 Speaker 32: I arguing with a Cowboys fan about who defense is 1446 01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:59,040 Speaker 32: the worst? He says, defense is trash. I said, massive garbage. 1447 01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,280 Speaker 32: He said his defense ain't stop nobody. I said, my 1448 01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,800 Speaker 32: beefs can't stop. But sentence with a period, real talk 1449 01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,400 Speaker 32: not can you get any worse than that? He got quiet. 1450 01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,160 Speaker 32: I thought, so let's go being was we winning this game? 1451 01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,759 Speaker 32: Can't stop a sentence with a period? 1452 01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,240 Speaker 4: No love it? That's so good. 1453 01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,920 Speaker 36: Hey, guys, I got a serious question because I don't 1454 01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,439 Speaker 36: know the answer. But I've always wondered about this. But 1455 01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,160 Speaker 36: and this has nothing to do with you, but guys 1456 01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:29,439 Speaker 36: that have pressed passes like things are Peen and Joe 1457 01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,880 Speaker 36: Daniman and guys like that. Do they have to be 1458 01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:35,840 Speaker 36: aware of how critical they can be of the franchise 1459 01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:39,120 Speaker 36: with fear of losing their press pass And if so, 1460 01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,479 Speaker 36: how come other cities like don't have to deal with that, 1461 01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,920 Speaker 36: like Philly, New York, Green Bay, Pittsburgh. I see their 1462 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:47,280 Speaker 36: media being very critical. 1463 01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,880 Speaker 4: I can't speak for them. I don't really know. To 1464 01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:55,160 Speaker 4: be honest, I'm not in there. I wouldn't imagine that 1465 01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:58,120 Speaker 4: that happens all that often. I'm sure they've you know, 1466 01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,720 Speaker 4: said or done things the Bengals haven't liked, But I 1467 01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,040 Speaker 4: don't know that they've come out and said, hey, knock 1468 01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,160 Speaker 4: it off or else you can't cover us. Yeah. 1469 01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:12,000 Speaker 36: And one other thing on college football, Ohio State is plus. 1470 01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:15,439 Speaker 4: One to win the whole thing, and they. 1471 01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:21,720 Speaker 36: Are minus one fifteen to make the national championship. I mean, 1472 01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:25,320 Speaker 36: as a gambler, you can just tell how much better 1473 01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:28,480 Speaker 36: they are than the rest of the country. It is insane. 1474 01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:31,120 Speaker 36: I watch all these teams in these colleges every week. 1475 01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:35,200 Speaker 36: Seen struggle with somebody in High State, struggles with nobody. 1476 01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:36,559 Speaker 36: They're going to run through it. 1477 01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:40,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what the I don't know what 1478 01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:42,639 Speaker 3: the pushback is with Ohio State this year. I really don't. 1479 01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Tony and naughty. This is a little Joe, 1480 01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:47,639 Speaker 4: Little Joe from Jersey. 1481 01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:52,240 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, hey, Tony, what you're doing talking about mafia business. 1482 01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:53,960 Speaker 4: Here on the airwaves since it's natty huh? 1483 01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:55,360 Speaker 3: It's going off the man house. 1484 01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:57,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, me and my boys appreciate it. 1485 01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:01,640 Speaker 11: If you wouldn't do that, perhaps we'll we'll circle the 1486 01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,280 Speaker 11: next date for your Tony More football show there and 1487 01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:05,320 Speaker 11: make a visit. 1488 01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:06,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got that. 1489 01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,519 Speaker 4: I might have to make a call this weekend, hire 1490 01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:12,600 Speaker 4: some guys to show up in suits. 1491 01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,880 Speaker 3: It wasn't me. That was not me. You have the 1492 01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:18,519 Speaker 3: rizzler coming after you would never say anything negative. 1493 01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:19,360 Speaker 16: I was just. 1494 01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,720 Speaker 8: Wondering when we're going to get the updated song for. 1495 01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:26,559 Speaker 25: Talk It's that time for talk bags. It's our favorite 1496 01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:27,920 Speaker 25: part of Tony Pikes and. 1497 01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:32,760 Speaker 4: Good point. That's a good point. That's the name of 1498 01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:33,160 Speaker 4: the show. 1499 01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:39,400 Speaker 22: Austin, Tony Sean and I got a theme in my head. 1500 01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:40,720 Speaker 13: I wish I was in. 1501 01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:48,240 Speaker 17: The locker room because it would go like, all right, guys. 1502 01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,760 Speaker 3: Yep, Austin's doing the lord's work right now, reading ahead. 1503 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:53,120 Speaker 3: I'm guessing for a little context, Josh gadd is pull 1504 01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,000 Speaker 3: off Frozen, So take that. 1505 01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:59,439 Speaker 4: You will well, I mean a cartoon, Yeah, and the 1506 01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,639 Speaker 4: car too, that's fine. I mean Olaff's a legend. 1507 01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:10,000 Speaker 3: Tony, did I put a spring in your step when 1508 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:13,480 Speaker 3: you found out that Brian Kelly was fired from LSU? 1509 01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:14,920 Speaker 3: Just curious? 1510 01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:17,760 Speaker 4: I will say this. I know you have a chance 1511 01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,280 Speaker 4: to answer this. You never seemed to take a really 1512 01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:24,560 Speaker 4: strong opinion on Brian Kelly because I think you're conflicted, 1513 01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:28,519 Speaker 4: because you know he's just an irre like, just a 1514 01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,920 Speaker 4: reprehensible human being. But also he was a guy who 1515 01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:32,920 Speaker 4: you like. 1516 01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:37,519 Speaker 3: He gave me a chance and his offense fit exactly 1517 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:41,560 Speaker 3: what I did best, and I appreciate that. Just a 1518 01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,439 Speaker 3: just not a good person. I think there's a fine 1519 01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:45,920 Speaker 3: line there. 1520 01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:49,200 Speaker 4: I heard too much. 1521 01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:55,080 Speaker 27: Boys go cards. 1522 01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,160 Speaker 3: And as I don't know what that is. That hurts 1523 01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:57,599 Speaker 3: my ears. 1524 01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:00,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's uh, Michael trying to leave a talk about 1525 01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:03,160 Speaker 4: and Michael's left plenty in the past. It is Mike 1526 01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:03,840 Speaker 4: might be messed. 1527 01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:09,000 Speaker 3: I hurt my ears. 1528 01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:14,280 Speaker 28: I don't really consider soccer to be a sport. 1529 01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:21,880 Speaker 7: Any any game that toddlers can play is not a sport. 1530 01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:25,160 Speaker 9: I hate watching it. 1531 01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:27,400 Speaker 4: Somebody has a shot. 1532 01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:28,680 Speaker 8: On goal and goes twenty. 1533 01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:30,640 Speaker 9: Feet over the goal and then I says like I 1534 01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:34,360 Speaker 9: want to strive. I can't stand it back. 1535 01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,520 Speaker 4: Okay, so don't watch it, Brah. 1536 01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:41,840 Speaker 12: You have seen that Mike Dwine put out his endorsement 1537 01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:43,400 Speaker 12: for Kyles forbar to the Reds. 1538 01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:47,719 Speaker 4: Yes, so it's what me and Slowly we're talking about today. 1539 01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:49,880 Speaker 4: Can Mike the Wine dip into the Rainy Day Fund 1540 01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:52,559 Speaker 4: and give the Reds a little bit of a loan 1541 01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:55,760 Speaker 4: here to make this happen for his good friend Bob Caste. Lady, 1542 01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:59,639 Speaker 4: what about all that gambling taxes that the state is getting? 1543 01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:00,559 Speaker 13: Huh? 1544 01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:03,639 Speaker 4: Can we can we create a fund to help our 1545 01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:07,040 Speaker 4: small market major league teams compete with the rest of 1546 01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:10,240 Speaker 4: Major League Baseball? Now, this is legislation I can sign 1547 01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:14,120 Speaker 4: up for. Now, whoever one of these candidates, who's Who's 1548 01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:20,400 Speaker 4: Who's running? Amy Acton and Vivek whichever one of those 1549 01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:23,760 Speaker 4: two can come up with a plan to create a 1550 01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:28,799 Speaker 4: fund to help Cleveland and Cincinnatis quote unquote small market 1551 01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:32,160 Speaker 4: baseball teams be able to compete in Major League Baseball. 1552 01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:33,120 Speaker 4: They'll have my vote. 1553 01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,720 Speaker 22: Hey, I'm tired of hearing negative bathroom guy every day, 1554 01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:38,640 Speaker 22: double dip in negativity. 1555 01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:45,880 Speaker 4: Dude, just stop negative bathroom guy guy. Uh yeah, listen, 1556 01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,679 Speaker 4: everybody has a voice here, you of course say terrible, 1557 01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:54,080 Speaker 4: terrible things. So yeah, that was it. That was our 1558 01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:54,679 Speaker 4: last one. 1559 01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,840 Speaker 3: We've got some Jamar Chase audio that we will share 1560 01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:01,080 Speaker 3: from him speaking yesterday when we return the Friday Football 1561 01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:04,080 Speaker 3: Frenzy on ESPN fifteen thirty. Cincinnati Sports Station. 1562 01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:10,080 Speaker 6: In the NATI on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home 1563 01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:13,280 Speaker 6: of the Cincinnati Bengals. 1564 01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,559 Speaker 3: All right, welcome back Friday Football Frenzy. A little football 1565 01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:18,960 Speaker 3: in the NATTI. To wrap up our number two here. 1566 01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:20,880 Speaker 3: Before we get to our number three, we've got our 1567 01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:24,479 Speaker 3: weekly pick them that we will make up as well. Again, 1568 01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:29,160 Speaker 3: we are done at two thirty because Kentucky Basketball plays 1569 01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:32,320 Speaker 3: later on this afternoon and their pregame show has moved 1570 01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:35,040 Speaker 3: up everything along the schedule this afternoon, so we're out 1571 01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:39,800 Speaker 3: at two thirty this afternoon. Jamar Chase, the leader since 1572 01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,120 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow has been out, the leader of the Cincinnati Bengals, 1573 01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,680 Speaker 3: I believe, has been Jamar Chase. You heard what he 1574 01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:47,800 Speaker 3: had to say after the Bears loss. Jamar coming off 1575 01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:51,879 Speaker 3: of bye looking ahead to the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday. 1576 01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:55,880 Speaker 3: Here's what Jamar Chase had to say yesterday that you 1577 01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:57,920 Speaker 3: reflected over the buyer week. 1578 01:23:57,960 --> 01:23:59,400 Speaker 30: What's the biggest thing that jumped out to you as 1579 01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:01,639 Speaker 30: you kind of approached the second half of the season. 1580 01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,320 Speaker 18: I mean, nothing really jump out to me for if 1581 01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:10,040 Speaker 18: I'm being honest, really just getting a moment, having to 1582 01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,640 Speaker 18: free of mind and get my body right for a minute. 1583 01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,160 Speaker 3: What's it like having Burrow back out there? I know 1584 01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:20,000 Speaker 3: he's not in eleven on eleven's, but just to have 1585 01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:21,800 Speaker 3: him out there during practice. 1586 01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:24,559 Speaker 18: Feels good having him out there hour. I like messing 1587 01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:27,640 Speaker 18: with him now he's back. I can usually do that 1588 01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:31,599 Speaker 18: when he was injured, but just having him out there 1589 01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,519 Speaker 18: is just good having It's just best for everybody, you 1590 01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:37,560 Speaker 18: know what I'm saying. The energy feels good for the 1591 01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:39,280 Speaker 18: whole offense just making sure he's back. 1592 01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:39,479 Speaker 21: You know. 1593 01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:42,439 Speaker 18: So he definitely puts smiles on people's faces. 1594 01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:47,439 Speaker 3: What involved is he? How involved is he during these practices? 1595 01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:49,439 Speaker 3: He does like. 1596 01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:53,600 Speaker 18: He does like I think Indy. I don't really know 1597 01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:56,200 Speaker 18: like what else he does besides Indy, but he don't 1598 01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:58,040 Speaker 18: do like no team drills or nothing like that. So 1599 01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:00,880 Speaker 18: majority till him just like you know, doing his own 1600 01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:02,679 Speaker 18: stuff on the side and then coming to practice. 1601 01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:05,680 Speaker 4: I didn't mess with. 1602 01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:14,800 Speaker 18: Head button, punch him whatever I can. I treated him like, 1603 01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,200 Speaker 18: look like my little burder. I'm like, I like bullying 1604 01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:17,959 Speaker 18: him a little. 1605 01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:19,720 Speaker 3: Bit because he I mean, he's not one to take 1606 01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:20,160 Speaker 3: a lot of that. 1607 01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:21,000 Speaker 28: I mean does he ever. 1608 01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:22,080 Speaker 4: Get you back? 1609 01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:23,479 Speaker 35: Uh? 1610 01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,719 Speaker 18: Once I start throwing punches, that's when he's interested into fighting. 1611 01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:32,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, like he like the UFC. Yeah, what do you 1612 01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:32,640 Speaker 3: think that is? 1613 01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:33,320 Speaker 9: What do you what do you think? 1614 01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:34,760 Speaker 28: It takes a couple of punches for him to land, 1615 01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:35,679 Speaker 28: for him to then. 1616 01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:39,639 Speaker 18: Like, I just think he liked the motion of punching 1617 01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:44,040 Speaker 18: and kicking. He's such a UFC fighter. So did he 1618 01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:45,280 Speaker 18: did you did? 1619 01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:47,160 Speaker 4: Did you know he was getting close or were you 1620 01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:48,160 Speaker 4: surprised at some point? 1621 01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:51,440 Speaker 18: And when he practiced him, I didn't know he was practicing. 1622 01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,120 Speaker 18: I was surprised. I just seen him putting the stuff on. 1623 01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:57,080 Speaker 4: I didn't know what was going on. When did that start? 1624 01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:58,640 Speaker 4: What did you start messing with him? Did you do that? 1625 01:25:58,680 --> 01:25:59,000 Speaker 19: Alic you? 1626 01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:00,880 Speaker 4: Hell no? 1627 01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:02,759 Speaker 3: Why he didn't? 1628 01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,280 Speaker 18: He didn't talk to nobody And I ain't really know 1629 01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:07,000 Speaker 18: him media, I'm not gonna push somebody buttons if I 1630 01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:08,360 Speaker 18: don't know him yet. You know, I just mess with 1631 01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:11,439 Speaker 18: him over here and there. But like now he's it's 1632 01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:13,519 Speaker 18: like you know, I see him. We don't talk. We 1633 01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:15,320 Speaker 18: don't talk in the morning sometimes because it'd be so 1634 01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:17,800 Speaker 18: early for me. Then once the last time told, we 1635 01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:18,360 Speaker 18: start talking. 1636 01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:18,640 Speaker 5: A little bit. 1637 01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:21,320 Speaker 4: It's I can really tell you got here? Did you 1638 01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,639 Speaker 4: start being the type to mess with yo a little more? 1639 01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:28,840 Speaker 18: I want to say, just his last year at LSU, 1640 01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:32,360 Speaker 18: Uh felt like we had a lot of just a 1641 01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:34,720 Speaker 18: bond practice only. 1642 01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,880 Speaker 4: So he pushes buttons get him going during games. 1643 01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:42,800 Speaker 18: Maybe if we score that drop, I might say some 1644 01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:48,160 Speaker 18: slick shit, oh slick, some slick words to him. Sorry, 1645 01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:49,880 Speaker 18: what's you know? 1646 01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:51,640 Speaker 28: Obviously a big game against Steelers coming up. 1647 01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:52,960 Speaker 29: What would what would it mean to be able to 1648 01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:55,160 Speaker 29: sweep them and kind of get some momentum back after 1649 01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:58,519 Speaker 29: of how the seasons went, especially these last couple of weeks. 1650 01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,360 Speaker 18: Uh, Yeah, thing is I think it would be good 1651 01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:04,360 Speaker 18: just to get our momentum back after those past two 1652 01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:07,200 Speaker 18: games we lost, just knowing the feeling of how it 1653 01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:13,960 Speaker 18: feels to lose and win, knowing after some games we're 1654 01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,000 Speaker 18: supposed to win, so you know, just having that feeling 1655 01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:19,439 Speaker 18: of losing, I think we don't want to fill out again. 1656 01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:20,760 Speaker 18: So you know, we got to have the mindset to 1657 01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:22,640 Speaker 18: win this game because that's what we want to be 1658 01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:23,120 Speaker 18: for AFC. 1659 01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:27,680 Speaker 37: Does that help having Flacco on your team, knowing that 1660 01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:29,759 Speaker 37: he's this would be the third time that he's played 1661 01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:33,160 Speaker 37: them this season? Does that help at all for you guys? 1662 01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:38,240 Speaker 18: Or yes, but that's more of a quarterback question. I'm 1663 01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:39,679 Speaker 18: not in the quarterback or I don't know what they're 1664 01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:40,120 Speaker 18: talking about. 1665 01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:42,080 Speaker 37: Well does he talk with you guys, like if he 1666 01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:46,639 Speaker 37: know not something? Now you're just not a talkative guy. 1667 01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:52,880 Speaker 18: I mean, good job pretty much what we get usually. 1668 01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:54,320 Speaker 2: Let's go. 1669 01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,639 Speaker 3: With Ramsey go in safety. 1670 01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:01,320 Speaker 37: What is what does that mean for them? 1671 01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:01,680 Speaker 35: What is it? 1672 01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:02,559 Speaker 19: How does that change? 1673 01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:03,639 Speaker 3: What's it mean? 1674 01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:07,080 Speaker 18: I mean it just really show he just really showing 1675 01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:10,200 Speaker 18: how versatile he is as a as a person, as 1676 01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:11,080 Speaker 18: a as a dB. 1677 01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:12,040 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 1678 01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:16,280 Speaker 18: And I think they had like I think he only 1679 01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:18,640 Speaker 18: moved a city because it was a change on the 1680 01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:20,639 Speaker 18: back end. So I'm not really sure one hundred percent 1681 01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:22,519 Speaker 18: of what's going on how they're doing that but you 1682 01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:24,080 Speaker 18: know he just shown off versutileiaated. 1683 01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:30,840 Speaker 4: All right, that's a lot. I mean, it's just best. 1684 01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:34,840 Speaker 4: We just gotta finish it off with that there. 1685 01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:42,120 Speaker 3: Move away. I never in a way I've. 1686 01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:44,599 Speaker 4: Viewed it's my fault that that's all my fault. 1687 01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,800 Speaker 3: In a way I viewed Jamar Chase in a similar 1688 01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:49,559 Speaker 3: way I viewed Mowagger, whereas I like never know how 1689 01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:52,680 Speaker 3: to take him. Like surely Joe Flacco is talking to 1690 01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:55,320 Speaker 3: them during the week, like that's a lot, Like he's 1691 01:28:55,760 --> 01:29:00,639 Speaker 3: throwing punches with with Joe Burrow. It's just I. 1692 01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,120 Speaker 4: Literally, oh, he's I feel like he's like, you know, 1693 01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:04,960 Speaker 4: kind of jabbing him a little bit, but he's not 1694 01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:05,760 Speaker 4: punching him. 1695 01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:09,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, every time, I'm sure talks coverages every time we 1696 01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:13,439 Speaker 3: play anything from him. Like, I don't know how to 1697 01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:15,479 Speaker 3: take him. He loves to mess with the media. He's 1698 01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:20,679 Speaker 3: so good at it. It's it's it's fun to watch. 1699 01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,559 Speaker 3: We've got to go hour three. 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What's happening? This is the start of Hour number three. 1714 01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:09,040 Speaker 3: Where's Tommy G? Where's tom Gallader? 1715 01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:11,200 Speaker 4: Tony Tony Tony? Hell us real? 1716 01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:12,599 Speaker 3: What happened? 1717 01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:17,080 Speaker 4: They ate it an off week to plan out the 1718 01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:18,479 Speaker 4: schedule for the next three years. 1719 01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:23,440 Speaker 3: Schedule release for Tommy G. He's unavailable today. Load management, 1720 01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:27,200 Speaker 3: load management. He's got a little time. I bet he 1721 01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:30,880 Speaker 3: pulled something with those fist pumps. Yep, something happened. Yeah, 1722 01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:34,040 Speaker 3: something happened. But don't worry. We talked to Tommy next 1723 01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:37,879 Speaker 3: week ahead of FC Cincinnati's next match against Enter Miami. 1724 01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:41,160 Speaker 3: And as we've said, since we're done at two thirty today, 1725 01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,160 Speaker 3: we've got to move up pick him anyway, So let's 1726 01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:47,960 Speaker 3: make some picks. High school College NFL Hour number three 1727 01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,599 Speaker 3: thanks to Penn Station on ESPN fifteen thirty, the Friday 1728 01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:56,519 Speaker 3: Football Frenzy. Here we go Austin Princeton at Elder. Princeton 1729 01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:58,160 Speaker 3: was left for dead last week. 1730 01:30:58,280 --> 01:30:59,080 Speaker 4: Uh huh. 1731 01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:01,599 Speaker 3: They come back in the fourth quarter to beat Winton Woods. 1732 01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:04,000 Speaker 3: Now they go to the pit. Now they take on 1733 01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:07,479 Speaker 3: the Panthers. Altiora Elder Elder Elder Purple Friday. 1734 01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:09,759 Speaker 4: What do you think I mean? This is a no brainer. 1735 01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:13,120 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna pick Princeton over my Elder Panthers. After 1736 01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:15,840 Speaker 4: I had turned my back on Elder earlier this year, 1737 01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:18,920 Speaker 4: I learned my lesson. I'm never picking against Ron Runk 1738 01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:20,160 Speaker 4: and the Panthers ever again. 1739 01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:25,400 Speaker 3: Doug Ramsey eased into the playoffs last week after a 1740 01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:27,840 Speaker 3: bye the week before. This team's fresh, this team's ready 1741 01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,479 Speaker 3: to go. Elder beats Princeton, got the pit. 1742 01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:31,160 Speaker 13: Now. 1743 01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:35,639 Speaker 3: Baden Austin Baden ended the season of alter last week. Yeah, tonight, 1744 01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:39,559 Speaker 3: they turned their eyes to the Tips City, Tip of Canoes. 1745 01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:43,400 Speaker 3: They look to end the Red Devils. They look to 1746 01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:46,880 Speaker 3: end Tip City season. Just the Tip City, just the 1747 01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:50,519 Speaker 3: Tip City. I got news for you, though it ain't happening. 1748 01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:54,840 Speaker 3: Baden falls, Tip City wins and remains undefeated this year. 1749 01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:56,600 Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw the score of the 1750 01:31:56,880 --> 01:32:00,720 Speaker 4: Tip game last week. I forget who they played. I 1751 01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:02,759 Speaker 4: feel like it was a team from down here, somewhere 1752 01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:06,679 Speaker 4: relatively close. Sure either way, Tip had a running clock 1753 01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:07,439 Speaker 4: in a second hand. 1754 01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:07,799 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1755 01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:11,559 Speaker 4: Tip's a machine, of course, hailing from the Miami Valley League, 1756 01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:19,400 Speaker 4: where Sydney is HOMEDU Tip Tip Tip to Tip Tip. 1757 01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:23,559 Speaker 4: That was well, Oh that was Taliwanda fifty five. Yeah 1758 01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:24,759 Speaker 4: Talawanda your boy? 1759 01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:27,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, goodie Wes Carrollton the week before, seventy seven to six, 1760 01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:31,040 Speaker 3: Talawanda fifty five to seven. Good luck Baden, good luck 1761 01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:35,400 Speaker 3: Tip City. They rolling this one. How about Taft at 1762 01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:39,880 Speaker 3: Indian Hill? Okay, Indian Hill, Boy, that's a juxtaposition. How 1763 01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:42,920 Speaker 3: about that a little bit? You like Taft? 1764 01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:45,479 Speaker 4: Yeah I do. I just told Indian Hill is going 1765 01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:47,800 Speaker 4: to be an underdog in this game. I don't know 1766 01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:49,880 Speaker 4: anything about either school, but I said, okay, I'll go 1767 01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:51,280 Speaker 4: with the favorite. I'll take Taft. 1768 01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:53,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're in the same boat here, I think Taft. 1769 01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:55,040 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't root for Indian Hill because it's 1770 01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:57,879 Speaker 3: a chl rival of the Redding Blue Devils. Oh okay, 1771 01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:02,960 Speaker 3: how about London and Jackson I talked about London last week. 1772 01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:07,679 Speaker 3: Almost so many unbelievable figures in the world of sports, 1773 01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:11,640 Speaker 3: and I left one out. Austin, Okay, the birthplace of 1774 01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:16,840 Speaker 3: one Dick Lebou is London. The Red Raiders. Oh boy, 1775 01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:21,480 Speaker 3: the Red Raiders of London. They were called for seventeen 1776 01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:24,960 Speaker 3: penalties last week. Oh they hadn't been scored on since 1777 01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:29,920 Speaker 3: Week four that ended last week? Does Jackson end the 1778 01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:36,559 Speaker 3: season of London. I'm gonna go with London in this one. Okay, 1779 01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:39,000 Speaker 3: for Dick Lebou. This is the first time we've differed. 1780 01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:42,200 Speaker 3: I just picked a team here. Now we know the 1781 01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:44,760 Speaker 3: official for this game tonight. I wonder if he'll be 1782 01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:48,240 Speaker 3: calling seventeen penalties on them again. Wow, I'm gonna go 1783 01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:52,719 Speaker 3: with Jackson. You're going to Jackson? Yes, Okay, I'm going 1784 01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:54,400 Speaker 3: to Jackson. There you go. 1785 01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:57,280 Speaker 4: I also have a nephew named Jackson. 1786 01:33:57,320 --> 01:33:58,120 Speaker 3: How about this one? 1787 01:33:58,160 --> 01:33:59,519 Speaker 4: Got after him? Old JK. 1788 01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:04,880 Speaker 3: It's sex It's molar one of the best high school 1789 01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:08,320 Speaker 3: games in the nation tonight. And because it's such a 1790 01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:11,920 Speaker 3: big game, where's it gonna be played? Dayton Welcome Stadium? 1791 01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:16,040 Speaker 3: What an absolute miss. It's embarrassing. You got to go 1792 01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:18,599 Speaker 3: to Dayton to watch this and at that dump note 1793 01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,360 Speaker 3: as welcome stadium, Austin. I'll give you the first swing. 1794 01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:24,040 Speaker 4: Why can't they play this at pay Court Stadium? Great question, 1795 01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:28,000 Speaker 4: he'd probably fill it up. Great question, ste X Molar? 1796 01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:29,920 Speaker 4: Who you got Molar? 1797 01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:30,920 Speaker 5: Wow? 1798 01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:33,800 Speaker 4: Heear those doors? Walk them in of Molar. This one's 1799 01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:35,800 Speaker 4: not close. Let's go big mo. 1800 01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:39,040 Speaker 3: I think it is close. I think it's closer than 1801 01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:44,280 Speaker 3: people expect. In fact, I think it's an upset in 1802 01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:48,719 Speaker 3: honor of Ohio state tight end Max Claire. This week, 1803 01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:53,240 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the Saint X Bombers. Daniel Vallmer 1804 01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:59,559 Speaker 3: killing it right now for sat X. Ponatowski. He's been awesome, 1805 01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:03,280 Speaker 3: awesome at Molar. He's got a bright future at Kentucky. 1806 01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:06,479 Speaker 3: But I think it ends tonight. Give me Seynex and 1807 01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:10,120 Speaker 3: the Bombers in Dayton to beat Moler. Let's go to 1808 01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:12,439 Speaker 3: the college slate. All right, Okay, let's go to the 1809 01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:17,160 Speaker 3: college slate Wisconsin. No word yet on if Luke Fickle 1810 01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:21,400 Speaker 3: is traveling with his vest or not. Since we don't 1811 01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:23,439 Speaker 3: know that, all we have to go on is they're 1812 01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:25,360 Speaker 3: going to Indiana, who's number two in the country and 1813 01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:27,080 Speaker 3: they're gonna give twenty eight and a half to the 1814 01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:32,000 Speaker 3: Wisconsin Badgers. Badgers, Now, Indiana down to the wire last week. 1815 01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:34,160 Speaker 3: Is there a flaw? Is there a chink in the 1816 01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:37,040 Speaker 3: armor of the Hoosiers? Or is that a game against 1817 01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:40,240 Speaker 3: Penn State that gets them locked back in and they 1818 01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:42,360 Speaker 3: roll on Saturday? What say you? 1819 01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:42,720 Speaker 16: Now? 1820 01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:46,200 Speaker 4: We picked these with the spread? Yes, twenty eight and 1821 01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:48,639 Speaker 4: a half, twenty eight and a half American points. You're 1822 01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:52,680 Speaker 4: in favor of the Hoosiers. These are American points. Indiana 1823 01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:54,400 Speaker 4: rolls comfortably. I got them to cover. 1824 01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:57,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's the Hoosiers. Look, Wisconsin left at 1825 01:35:57,400 --> 01:35:59,800 Speaker 3: all in the field last week? They stormed the field. Yes, 1826 01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:04,040 Speaker 3: in Madison, they stormed the field after a win over 1827 01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:07,519 Speaker 3: the twenty third ranked what's cut Washington Huskies. They're done, 1828 01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:10,519 Speaker 3: they got what they needed. They're moving on. Indiana rolls. 1829 01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:13,479 Speaker 3: How about this Notre Dame number nine at number twenty 1830 01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:16,479 Speaker 3: two Pittsburgh Now Pat Nardozy said he's okay losing this 1831 01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:19,519 Speaker 3: game by one hundred, He said, as long as they 1832 01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:22,559 Speaker 3: win the next at two ACC games. That being said, 1833 01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:25,160 Speaker 3: if he's willing to lose by one hundred, is he 1834 01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:26,960 Speaker 3: willing to lose by more than twelve and a half. 1835 01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:33,160 Speaker 3: Oh give me the Irish, Yeah, gimme Marcus Freeman and 1836 01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:36,600 Speaker 3: the Irish to roll into Pittsburgh. They are going to 1837 01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:39,000 Speaker 3: muck up that field. And I don't know if that 1838 01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:42,160 Speaker 3: hurts or helps the Bengals for Sunday. But you know 1839 01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:45,120 Speaker 3: what Notre Dame's about. It's about that running game. They're 1840 01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:50,000 Speaker 3: gonna run all over the Panthers of Pittsburgh. Sorry, Pat Nardoozy, 1841 01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:53,000 Speaker 3: I love the guy. I love Pat Nardoozy, even though 1842 01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:55,080 Speaker 3: he used to make me run steps for throwing completions 1843 01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:59,599 Speaker 3: on Thursdays for scout team. That being said for third day, yep, 1844 01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:03,360 Speaker 3: I was on scout team, and if you threw completions 1845 01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:06,759 Speaker 3: on Thursday's practice when you were supposed to be building 1846 01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:09,360 Speaker 3: up the defense, you had to run up the stadium 1847 01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:11,920 Speaker 3: stairs and back down. I'd complete a ball and I'd 1848 01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:14,559 Speaker 3: just take off running. Oh my god, next quarterback in line, 1849 01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:16,559 Speaker 3: I'd slap hands with him as he was running up 1850 01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:17,920 Speaker 3: the stairs and I was coming back down. 1851 01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:19,679 Speaker 4: He said a lot about his defense. 1852 01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:22,280 Speaker 3: That's right now. Knowing that, who do you like? 1853 01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:24,360 Speaker 4: I still got a Notre Dame. 1854 01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:31,519 Speaker 3: The Iris number eleven Oklahoma Number four Alabama. Alabama's gonna 1855 01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:33,000 Speaker 3: lay five and a half at home. What do you like? 1856 01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:36,000 Speaker 4: I like Kaylin de Bor and Bama to keep it rolling. 1857 01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:37,400 Speaker 3: Blitz Bama, blitz. 1858 01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:41,879 Speaker 4: Don't give up about nothing but blitz Bama. Blitz. 1859 01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:44,840 Speaker 3: I like the Sooners in this one. 1860 01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:48,639 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Boomer Sooner, what's wrong with you? 1861 01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:49,519 Speaker 3: Blitz Bama? 1862 01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:50,000 Speaker 4: Blitz. 1863 01:37:52,040 --> 01:37:55,920 Speaker 3: Alabama's right for the picking right now. I'll take Oklahoma. 1864 01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:58,679 Speaker 3: How about number ten Texas. This might be the worst 1865 01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:01,559 Speaker 3: tenth ranked team I've ever see in college football. I 1866 01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:04,240 Speaker 3: don't get it, but they keep giving Texas love. They're 1867 01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:07,639 Speaker 3: gonna creep back into this somehow, someway. They're at Georgia. 1868 01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:12,880 Speaker 3: Kirby Smart's bunch minus six and a half. What do 1869 01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:13,519 Speaker 3: you think. 1870 01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:17,280 Speaker 4: Georgia Blitz Bama blitz what. 1871 01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:19,760 Speaker 3: I don't know? You got Georgia in this one? 1872 01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:22,280 Speaker 4: I do, yeah, yeah, I think everybody's kind of rolling 1873 01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:24,240 Speaker 4: at the right time. I don't believe in Texas. I 1874 01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:26,680 Speaker 4: don't believe in Arch. This game is in Athens. I'll 1875 01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:27,320 Speaker 4: take Georgia. 1876 01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:31,519 Speaker 3: Is it still Arch Manning? Is he still the quarterback? 1877 01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:33,400 Speaker 4: I don't know. To be honest, I do like. 1878 01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:35,720 Speaker 3: The Texas defense. I really do, and I think they 1879 01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:38,720 Speaker 3: got some athletes and playmakers on that field. But I'm 1880 01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:42,439 Speaker 3: with you. This just feels like a game where Georgia says, hey, 1881 01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:45,719 Speaker 3: hold up, wait a minute, y'all thought we were finished. 1882 01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:49,680 Speaker 3: Yeah they're not. They're just flying under the radar right now. 1883 01:38:49,760 --> 01:38:54,200 Speaker 3: Or the Georgia Bulldogs. I don't get it. We're just 1884 01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:58,160 Speaker 3: ignoring Georgian and Kirby Smart not after this weekend, Georgia 1885 01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:02,640 Speaker 3: beats Texas big, speaking big, it's a big number in Columbus. 1886 01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:06,280 Speaker 3: It's a night game. Yeah, it's a night game, and 1887 01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:11,640 Speaker 3: here come the Bruins of UCLA. Yeah, Ucla is not 1888 01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:15,280 Speaker 3: gonna win this game. But many are wondering, can you 1889 01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:19,160 Speaker 3: CELA cover thirty one and a half points on the road? 1890 01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:20,960 Speaker 3: What do you think? 1891 01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:23,479 Speaker 4: This does? Feel like a lot of points at Ohio 1892 01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:26,439 Speaker 4: State has won some games comfortably, They've never really like 1893 01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:29,040 Speaker 4: run away with it unless it was a school that 1894 01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:31,240 Speaker 4: really just didn't belong on the field with them. Certainly 1895 01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:34,599 Speaker 4: haven't totally run away with it in conference games. Yea, yea, Yeah. 1896 01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:38,679 Speaker 4: UCLA's offenses look good ever since the firing of Thomas 1897 01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:41,200 Speaker 4: whatever that guy's name was, and then the new Heiseel 1898 01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:43,479 Speaker 4: guys fun turn their offense. 1899 01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:46,040 Speaker 3: The quarterback Nico that left Tennessee, he's a. 1900 01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:51,799 Speaker 4: Go Eamaliava PTSD for him. You might remember the playoff 1901 01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:55,679 Speaker 4: game last year at Ohio Stadium. The Buckeyes broke his helmet. 1902 01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:58,639 Speaker 4: They hit him so hard. I'm gonna say, he's scared, 1903 01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:01,960 Speaker 4: he's shaken. He know he ain't gonna make it. What 1904 01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:06,320 Speaker 4: whoa Nico Imliava tu interceptions Ohio State takes them both 1905 01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:09,360 Speaker 4: back to the house. Oh yeah, I'm telling you what. 1906 01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:11,840 Speaker 4: This is a blowout here. Give it a Buckeyes. 1907 01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:15,280 Speaker 3: You're saying, Nico shaken, not stirred Saturday night? How about this? 1908 01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:18,479 Speaker 3: Austin Joe Burrow in twenty nineteen completed seventy six point 1909 01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:20,160 Speaker 3: three percent of his passes at LSU. 1910 01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:20,599 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1911 01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:22,960 Speaker 3: Two thousand and eight, Colt McCoy seventy six point seven. 1912 01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:23,679 Speaker 4: He was pretty good. 1913 01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:26,320 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty Mac Jones seventy seven point four of Baman. 1914 01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:29,679 Speaker 3: Then twenty twenty three Bo Knicks at Oregon completed seventy 1915 01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:32,960 Speaker 3: seven point four of his passes through nine games. I'm 1916 01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:36,799 Speaker 3: just saying, Julian saying is completing eighty point nine percent 1917 01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:40,200 Speaker 3: of his passes. That is the highest single season completion 1918 01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:42,960 Speaker 3: percentage to date in the FBS history. 1919 01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:45,920 Speaker 4: What's his yards per attempt? Oh, because it's not like 1920 01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:48,160 Speaker 4: he's dinking and Dunky. He ain't Dnking and Duncan is 1921 01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:50,160 Speaker 4: eighty percent and he's going down the field. 1922 01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:52,920 Speaker 3: He ain't Dnking and Duncan. His average nine point nine. 1923 01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:57,160 Speaker 3: So that's a first down per completion. I'm just saying, 1924 01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:02,880 Speaker 3: Julian over Nick oh Buck, guys cover comfortably. I got 1925 01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:07,120 Speaker 3: this at like forty two to three, something like that 1926 01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:11,599 Speaker 3: night game in Columbus. All right, Austin, I've talked about this, 1927 01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:15,400 Speaker 3: We've talked about this, most talked about this. This is 1928 01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:19,720 Speaker 3: a scary game for the Bearcats of Cincinnata. Six and 1929 01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:23,519 Speaker 3: a half is the number. Arizona a few points and 1930 01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:28,840 Speaker 3: plays away from one loss. I like the Bearcats. I 1931 01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:33,000 Speaker 3: like Brendan Soresby, I like Corleone. I like this team. 1932 01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:35,920 Speaker 3: Out of a bye to write the ship and set 1933 01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:40,680 Speaker 3: up next week maybe maybe College game Day. Maybe if 1934 01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:43,680 Speaker 3: they win and BYU wins, set up an opportunity to 1935 01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:46,519 Speaker 3: talk about one of the biggest games coming to Nippert 1936 01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:48,800 Speaker 3: Stadium in quite some time. They have to take care 1937 01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:51,519 Speaker 3: of business tomorrow. I think they do. They beat Arizona 1938 01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:52,000 Speaker 3: and they cover. 1939 01:41:52,800 --> 01:41:56,360 Speaker 4: I got some breaking news for you here, bum, All right, 1940 01:41:56,479 --> 01:41:58,120 Speaker 4: all right, I think I'm gonna be at this game 1941 01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:01,200 Speaker 4: coming to this game tomorrow. 1942 01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:02,439 Speaker 3: You got Man Jeen seats? 1943 01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:04,720 Speaker 4: No, I didn't get any Man Jean seats, but I 1944 01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:06,880 Speaker 4: think I'm I think I'm gonna be at the nip Go. 1945 01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:10,639 Speaker 4: Haven't been to the nip for a game since, oh boy, 1946 01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:15,040 Speaker 4: twenty seventeen. I think it's been a while. The Bearcats 1947 01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:16,880 Speaker 4: won that day when I was there. It was the 1948 01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:20,479 Speaker 4: battle for the victory bell, oh boy. And I think 1949 01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:23,599 Speaker 4: your present six and a half I don't feel crazy 1950 01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:25,960 Speaker 4: about because I feel like it's a close game. But 1951 01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:29,880 Speaker 4: maybe a late runaway touchdown to the Bearcats while they're 1952 01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:32,360 Speaker 4: trying to bleed the clock and they'll cover the six 1953 01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:37,040 Speaker 4: and a half. Give me give me Cincinnati since he 1954 01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:38,960 Speaker 4: with an eye, or since he with a y, Well, 1955 01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:42,799 Speaker 4: Cincinnati at the end with an eye, since he shortened 1956 01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:43,679 Speaker 4: with a Why there. 1957 01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:45,879 Speaker 3: You go, all right through the NFL. We go Bucks 1958 01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:49,360 Speaker 3: at Bill's the number six and a half? Nah, baby, nah, 1959 01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:52,080 Speaker 3: that's too many points for Baker Mayfield. I think Bills win. 1960 01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:56,439 Speaker 3: I think Bucks cover. I agree, Packers at Giants. The 1961 01:42:56,479 --> 01:42:59,120 Speaker 3: only reason I threw this on there is because Jameis 1962 01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:02,040 Speaker 3: Winston is starting to quarterback in Jamis. We trust is 1963 01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:05,320 Speaker 3: Jamis getting six and a half cover against the Packers. 1964 01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:08,240 Speaker 4: No, he doesn't. Packers are a Boa constrictor against Jamis, 1965 01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:10,280 Speaker 4: and green Bay covers comfortably. 1966 01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:12,879 Speaker 3: Packers are a good team until they play a bad team. 1967 01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:16,160 Speaker 3: They have losses to the Carolina Panthers and the Cleveland Browns. 1968 01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:19,599 Speaker 3: Jamis Winston does the Lord's work on Sunday and they 1969 01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:27,320 Speaker 3: cover Chargers Jags. Chargers, Jags are the Jaguarars fraudulent. I 1970 01:43:27,360 --> 01:43:29,479 Speaker 3: think so, Yeah, I think so. I think the Chargers 1971 01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:31,360 Speaker 3: get a big win, and I think the Jags fall 1972 01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:32,040 Speaker 3: out of the playoffs. 1973 01:43:32,120 --> 01:43:34,320 Speaker 4: I'm right there with you. I was big on the Jags. 1974 01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:35,240 Speaker 4: They've let me down. 1975 01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:41,639 Speaker 3: Potential potential game of the weekend. Seahawks at Rams, Rams 1976 01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:45,320 Speaker 3: minus three and a half at home. Listen, if Stafford's 1977 01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:47,400 Speaker 3: gonna be my MVP, then surely he's gonna beat the 1978 01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:49,639 Speaker 3: Rams at home. I'm sure he's gonna beat the Seahawks 1979 01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:52,240 Speaker 3: at home. I don't think this one's close. I think 1980 01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:55,000 Speaker 3: this is a huge statement for the Rams on Sunday. 1981 01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:59,559 Speaker 4: I do think that this is close, but maybe not 1982 01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:02,040 Speaker 4: quite three and a half. I got the Rams winning 1983 01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:04,800 Speaker 4: this one just because I'm not gonna bet against Los 1984 01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:07,880 Speaker 4: Angeles at home now, and that's a big home. I 1985 01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:10,680 Speaker 4: know it's not really a home field advantage, but I 1986 01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:13,320 Speaker 4: don't know that there's a flock of Seahawks fans coming 1987 01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:16,000 Speaker 4: down for that game like you might typically see flock. 1988 01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:18,479 Speaker 3: I got the Rams, what you got with the Ravens 1989 01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:22,879 Speaker 3: and the Browns and AFC North slugfest a battle in Cleveland, 1990 01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:24,920 Speaker 3: the number seven and a half? What say you? 1991 01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:27,599 Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson back to practice, He'll do whatever he wants 1992 01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:29,400 Speaker 4: on Cleveland Baltimore covers. 1993 01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:33,920 Speaker 3: I'm going opposite. I'm going this Browns defense and the 1994 01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:36,519 Speaker 3: raven I know the Ravens defense has been better. I 1995 01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:38,920 Speaker 3: think this is a late back door swing open for 1996 01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:40,920 Speaker 3: the Browns. I'll take the Browns to lose, but cover 1997 01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:46,599 Speaker 3: the number. Chiefs at Broncos. I'm calling Broncos fraudulent alert. 1998 01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:52,439 Speaker 3: Sound the alarm, Broncos. Fraudulent Chiefs win. 1999 01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:55,719 Speaker 4: Chiefs cover on the road, Broncos make a statement at home, 2000 01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:58,400 Speaker 4: they cover the three and a half, they beat the 2001 01:44:58,479 --> 01:45:01,559 Speaker 4: Kansas City Chiefs continue to try to carve out a 2002 01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:03,479 Speaker 4: path for the Bengals to get to the playoffs. 2003 01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:05,719 Speaker 3: What a great slate this is on Sunday? How about 2004 01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:10,120 Speaker 3: Lions Eagles? AJ Brown's not happy. Jalen Hurts doesn't care. 2005 01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:12,880 Speaker 3: He's worried about the Lions, and he should be. It's 2006 01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:16,880 Speaker 3: a juggernaut, it's a train. It feels like Philly's been 2007 01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:20,040 Speaker 3: trending downward. I think this is the game it catches 2008 01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:22,600 Speaker 3: up to him. I like the Lions on the road, Austin. 2009 01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:24,559 Speaker 4: I'm right there with you. This is a Sunday night 2010 01:45:24,680 --> 01:45:28,040 Speaker 4: football game, the Lions and the Eagles. I trust in 2011 01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:29,120 Speaker 4: Dan Campbell. 2012 01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:31,600 Speaker 3: What do you say about the Bengals and Steelers? Do 2013 01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:33,240 Speaker 3: you think we should make this a certain game of 2014 01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:33,559 Speaker 3: the week. 2015 01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:37,439 Speaker 4: You know what, I have no problem with that, Ah baby, 2016 01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:38,759 Speaker 4: that's right. 2017 01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:47,479 Speaker 3: Oh baby, this is our win shulers cheesy, cheezy spread 2018 01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:49,960 Speaker 3: of the weekend. Sure you can have a football party 2019 01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:52,479 Speaker 3: without wind shulers. You can also throw a pass without 2020 01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:52,920 Speaker 3: a receiver. 2021 01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:53,960 Speaker 4: Why would you do anything. 2022 01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:56,559 Speaker 3: Neither one's gonna score you any points, so you better 2023 01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:58,800 Speaker 3: make sure you got plenty of wind shulers on hand 2024 01:45:59,040 --> 01:46:01,880 Speaker 3: for your next get together, especially over the holiday season. 2025 01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:04,679 Speaker 3: Our friends at Win Schulers Austin sent us a care 2026 01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:08,639 Speaker 3: package today. They sent us a care package, and in 2027 01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:11,479 Speaker 3: that care package they mentioned that this Bengals offense has 2028 01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:15,760 Speaker 3: been a jugger not as of late. Al Golden was 2029 01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:19,240 Speaker 3: seen stretching with the defense earlier in the week. Yes, 2030 01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:24,440 Speaker 3: we're trying anything, Al Golden stretching. Joe Burrow back at practice. 2031 01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:28,080 Speaker 3: Bengals win. I don't even worry about the points. Bengals 2032 01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:31,360 Speaker 3: money line seasons back on. Can Joe Burrow play against 2033 01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:33,880 Speaker 3: the New England Patriots. We'll find out next week. But 2034 01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:36,400 Speaker 3: the seasons a lie because they go into Pittsburgh and 2035 01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:37,759 Speaker 3: they win a game on Sunday. 2036 01:46:37,880 --> 01:46:40,639 Speaker 4: Every year around this time, the Bengals start to do something. 2037 01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:42,880 Speaker 4: They start to play a little bit better, they start 2038 01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:45,559 Speaker 4: to put it all together. They start to suck you 2039 01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:49,000 Speaker 4: back in and make you believe. And they do it 2040 01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:52,520 Speaker 4: again with a victory over the Pittsburgh Steelers. 2041 01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:56,960 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh shout out to win Schuler's shout out to our picks. 2042 01:46:58,120 --> 01:47:00,720 Speaker 3: We're done early today, unfortunately, so when we come back, 2043 01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:03,639 Speaker 3: I believe we got a football in the NATI ESPN 2044 01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:09,360 Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, The Friday Football Frenzy. Welcome back. 2045 01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:11,479 Speaker 3: It is football in the NATI. It's also the end 2046 01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:14,679 Speaker 3: of today's show and the week here on the Friday 2047 01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:19,759 Speaker 3: Football Frenzy ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Why, well, 2048 01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:24,000 Speaker 3: we're done early because of what Austin. Kentucky basketball. 2049 01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:27,559 Speaker 4: Yes, I believe Kentucky plays tonight and their covers gets 2050 01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:30,000 Speaker 4: underway at five thirty, So we move up the pep 2051 01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:33,719 Speaker 4: Rally show from two thirty to five thirty. And uh 2052 01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:36,599 Speaker 4: so we're finished at two thirty. All right, So Dan 2053 01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:39,760 Speaker 4: and Lapp coming up, Dan and Lap on the way. 2054 01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:44,840 Speaker 3: One other quick thing, and we mentioned this earlier in 2055 01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:49,080 Speaker 3: the show when talking about Thursday Night football from from 2056 01:47:49,160 --> 01:47:56,200 Speaker 3: last night. The balance Austin is fascinating to me in 2057 01:47:56,240 --> 01:47:59,120 Speaker 3: the National Football League between teams that are competing right 2058 01:47:59,160 --> 01:48:01,880 Speaker 3: now to win a Super Bowl, that have the rookie 2059 01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:05,559 Speaker 3: quarterback deal and teams that have went and paid their quarterback. 2060 01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:07,440 Speaker 3: If you look at kind of where the top quarterback 2061 01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:10,639 Speaker 3: salaries are in the National Football League, it's hit or miss. 2062 01:48:10,720 --> 01:48:12,800 Speaker 3: I mean two is one of the top paid quarterbacks 2063 01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:16,000 Speaker 3: that has failed miserably. Mahomes up there as well. But 2064 01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:18,879 Speaker 3: Mahomes is a good, team friendly deal by all accounts 2065 01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:21,720 Speaker 3: and has allowed Kansas City to keep winning. But the 2066 01:48:22,200 --> 01:48:26,400 Speaker 3: line in the NFL is just incredible to me, Austin, 2067 01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:30,160 Speaker 3: of teams that have rookie quarterbacks and can they get 2068 01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:35,160 Speaker 3: it right? If you think of that right now? New England, Denver, 2069 01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:38,920 Speaker 3: the Chicago Bears, who are up and coming with a 2070 01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:43,360 Speaker 3: six and three record, But the teams that and I 2071 01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:45,000 Speaker 3: guess you could throw Indian there, not that they have 2072 01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:47,519 Speaker 3: a rookie quarterback, but Daniel Jones was at an extreme 2073 01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:50,680 Speaker 3: value that you're almost operating under the umbrella that you 2074 01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:53,960 Speaker 3: can be aggressive and go get a sauce gardener. Do 2075 01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:57,240 Speaker 3: you think one way is better than the other? Austin? Like, 2076 01:48:57,280 --> 01:49:00,719 Speaker 3: do you think if you don't have the right front 2077 01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:04,200 Speaker 3: office in place, can you win a championship with your 2078 01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:06,680 Speaker 3: quarterback as one of the three or five highest paid 2079 01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:07,599 Speaker 3: quarterbacks in the league. 2080 01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:12,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I feel like you can if you 2081 01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:15,320 Speaker 4: have somebody that is that good, that is that much 2082 01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:18,800 Speaker 4: of a game changer, if you have a top three, 2083 01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:22,320 Speaker 4: top four, top five quarterback, Yeah, do you think anything 2084 01:49:22,439 --> 01:49:22,960 Speaker 4: is possible? 2085 01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:27,000 Speaker 3: Do you think it's harder in the NFL? To build 2086 01:49:27,280 --> 01:49:32,080 Speaker 3: a team around a big quarterback contract, but you know 2087 01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:34,120 Speaker 3: you've got one of the best quarterbacks in the game. 2088 01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:36,840 Speaker 3: Or is it harder to piece it together around the 2089 01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:39,800 Speaker 3: rookie quarterback? Like I look at Drake May and I 2090 01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:42,040 Speaker 3: think Drake May is going to be one of the 2091 01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:44,639 Speaker 3: best quarterbacks in the league. He's an MVP candidate right 2092 01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:47,160 Speaker 3: now in the National Football League. He's got the New 2093 01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:50,720 Speaker 3: England Patriots playing the best football out of anyone. When 2094 01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:55,200 Speaker 3: it comes to roster construction, take a bow, knicks. Is 2095 01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:57,880 Speaker 3: it easier to build that and still have maybe a 2096 01:49:57,960 --> 01:50:00,120 Speaker 3: question or two about your quarterback, but more money to 2097 01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:02,719 Speaker 3: spend elsewhere, Or is it better to have the quarterback 2098 01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:05,120 Speaker 3: in your pocket. You know you got one of the best, 2099 01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:07,200 Speaker 3: now build around him. And I'm not talking here because 2100 01:50:07,200 --> 01:50:09,479 Speaker 3: we've talked about this with the Bengals a lot. I'm 2101 01:50:09,479 --> 01:50:13,640 Speaker 3: talking about on the NFL broad slate of things, like 2102 01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:17,519 Speaker 3: if you take a very good front office, a very 2103 01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:20,839 Speaker 3: good GM, is it easier to build knowing your quarterback's 2104 01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:23,000 Speaker 3: already in house, or around the rookie quarterback. 2105 01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:26,200 Speaker 4: I think it's a little easier around a rookie because 2106 01:50:26,600 --> 01:50:29,240 Speaker 4: you can be more aggressive. You can take some more 2107 01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:33,160 Speaker 4: swings and not be hurt by it. Like when you 2108 01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:36,479 Speaker 4: have a guy on a bigger deal, you might have 2109 01:50:36,520 --> 01:50:40,040 Speaker 4: a little bit less wiggle room, less opportunity to miss 2110 01:50:40,080 --> 01:50:44,280 Speaker 4: and still survive it. And for that reason, when you 2111 01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:47,200 Speaker 4: have a top flight front office, the way that contracts 2112 01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:49,120 Speaker 4: are structured and all that, you can kind of protect 2113 01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:53,320 Speaker 4: yourself against that. But when you are are building around 2114 01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:57,479 Speaker 4: a rookie deal, rookie quarterback, I think it makes everything easier. 2115 01:50:57,520 --> 01:50:59,479 Speaker 4: You can just be a little bit more aggressive. I 2116 01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:02,760 Speaker 4: mean like New England's a perfect example. They drafted May, 2117 01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:06,920 Speaker 4: they make this whole change, and what were they doing 2118 01:51:06,960 --> 01:51:08,960 Speaker 4: in free agency? They were uber aggressive, went out and 2119 01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:13,480 Speaker 4: got the best available defensive tackle, Milton Willis Williams from Philadelphia, 2120 01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:14,920 Speaker 4: and gave him a ton of money. Well guess what, 2121 01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:17,040 Speaker 4: the Patriots still lead the league in cap space over 2122 01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:19,320 Speaker 4: the next couple of years, so they can continue to 2123 01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:22,080 Speaker 4: build around Drake May. And they're already nine and two, 2124 01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:26,400 Speaker 4: So it certainly makes a lot of sense. I think 2125 01:51:26,439 --> 01:51:28,680 Speaker 4: where it gets tricky as a team like Kansas City 2126 01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:31,720 Speaker 4: or a team like Cincinnati, where yeah, your quarterback's making 2127 01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:33,880 Speaker 4: a lot of money, but you also have three or 2128 01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:36,120 Speaker 4: four other guys that are due a lot of money, 2129 01:51:36,479 --> 01:51:41,280 Speaker 4: like Jamar Chase, like t Higgins. The Bengals have kind 2130 01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:42,479 Speaker 4: of run out of those. But if you think of 2131 01:51:42,760 --> 01:51:47,320 Speaker 4: Kansas City, they have Chris Jones and Creed Humphrey and 2132 01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:51,920 Speaker 4: Trey Smith and car Loftis is coming up, Mahomes and 2133 01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:54,360 Speaker 4: Kelsey and and so that's where you have to be 2134 01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:56,600 Speaker 4: really buttoned up in your draft strategy. You have to 2135 01:51:56,640 --> 01:51:59,479 Speaker 4: be really buttoned up in your free agency strategy and 2136 01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:03,000 Speaker 4: all that. So I don't know that it's an exact science. 2137 01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:06,680 Speaker 4: That's like, only teams with quarterbacks on rookie deals can 2138 01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:09,479 Speaker 4: can build a contender and get to the Super Bowl. 2139 01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:12,800 Speaker 4: I do think you can with those other great quarterbacks, 2140 01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:15,400 Speaker 4: but that's where the difference in the actual front office 2141 01:52:15,400 --> 01:52:16,000 Speaker 4: shows up. 2142 01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:20,320 Speaker 3: Sure, that's our final football in the NATI. This has 2143 01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:23,719 Speaker 3: been the Friday football Frenzy. What a loaded football weekend 2144 01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:27,479 Speaker 3: from high school to college to the National Football League. 2145 01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:30,960 Speaker 3: Noon kick tomorrow for the Bearcats and the Arizona Wildcats. 2146 01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:34,800 Speaker 3: You've got a late kick in Columbus between Ohio State 2147 01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:39,280 Speaker 3: and UCLA Sunday. You got Bengals, Steelers. You also got 2148 01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:43,120 Speaker 3: uc in Mount Saint Mary's and the Xavier Musketeers. A 2149 01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:47,320 Speaker 3: tough one tonight Austin on the road at Iowa. Tough 2150 01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:51,880 Speaker 3: one for the Xavier Musketeers. But that really concludes what 2151 01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:55,479 Speaker 3: the weekend is set to be. No FC Cincinnati Bengals 2152 01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:58,639 Speaker 3: on the road against the Steelers. Ideally, we're talking Monday 2153 01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:02,240 Speaker 3: about the Bengal season and still being on and a 2154 01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:05,680 Speaker 3: lot of conversation around the New England Patriots. Enjoy that 2155 01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:08,839 Speaker 3: for next week. For now, enjoy the start of your weekend. 2156 01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:11,360 Speaker 3: Have a great one. It's been the Friday Football Frenzy 2157 01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:14,160 Speaker 3: on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station