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Speaker 2: He is there. I see him on the screen. You're lucky.

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Speaker 1: I'm lucky I get to see Jack, he said, because

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Speaker 1: he gets to see me, but we get some great

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Speaker 1: topics to talk about. Welcome back from the High Press

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Speaker 1: Network and host of the Windsor Report, Jack Windsor. Great

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Speaker 1: to have you on the show. It's a blessing and

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Speaker 1: an honor to be here. Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what year you graduated from high school, Jack,

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Speaker 1: but I sure look back on my days. I graduated

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Speaker 1: in eighty three, and all the days we were let

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Speaker 1: out of school to protest, we used to hit the ground,

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Speaker 1: run and the teachers were behind us, we all and

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Speaker 1: it was we were out there doing right wing activism.

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Speaker 1: We were voting for Reagan. Yeah, no, that never happened, Jack,

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Speaker 1: Now once never. How in the hell have we We've

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Speaker 1: gone from an era where you went to school and

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Speaker 1: you studied what we thought were appropriate things to study

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Speaker 1: in school, but they didn't involve political engagement. In political activism,

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Speaker 1: we talked conceptually about it during our Civics class that

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Speaker 1: we do have a First Amendment right to free speech,

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Speaker 1: but not during academic hours.

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Speaker 2: So we've gone a long way from those.

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Speaker 1: Days, Jack, and I see lots of schools across this

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Speaker 1: top of it. Your reaction to this, your explanation and

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Speaker 1: break down, Jack windsor Yes.

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Speaker 3: So we covered a story about Gahannah Lincoln High School,

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Speaker 3: which is a Columbus, Ohio suburb. But as you mentioned,

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Speaker 3: the same things are happening all around the Buckeye State.

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Speaker 3: And I'm going to go to the fallout before I

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Speaker 3: go to what happened. The fallout right now is exactly

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Speaker 3: what you said. There are parents going out. Wait a minute,

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Speaker 3: what if a group of students created signs and wanted

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Speaker 3: implementation of border border patrol activities in order to enforce

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Speaker 3: federal border law. Would schools cooperate? And let's be the

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Speaker 3: answer is no, No, they wouldn't. They would give a

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Speaker 3: lot more resistance. And so that's really kind of the

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Speaker 4: At least folks that we hear from.

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Speaker 3: And on February fourth, Hanna Lincoln High School students they

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Speaker 3: staged a walkout and the principle there, Jessica Williams, emailed

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Speaker 3: families beforehand urging class attendance. While she said she respected

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Speaker 3: peaceful expression. Well, there were signs like fornicate ice is

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Speaker 3: his supporters and had vote blue at the bottom. And

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Speaker 3: one anonymous parent said that after the events that day

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Speaker 3: I don't feel safe and secure in my school, not

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Speaker 3: only because of what happened, but because of the ongoing

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Speaker 3: activism in the schools. There's kind of this civil war

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Speaker 3: environment now where it's activist teachers and folks on students

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Speaker 3: you know the classic labels right, xenophobe, nationalist, trumper, maga, idiot,

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Speaker 3: all of these things.

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Speaker 2: Oh and the all important I'm the present racist.

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Speaker 4: Racist that's it, racist, xenophobe, all of it.

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Speaker 3: And what's really interesting the irony is that Gahannah Lincoln,

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Speaker 3: for example, they have this acronym Pride pr id, you know,

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Speaker 3: respect and integrity and decent, all these things, right, but

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Speaker 3: yet you have students chanting profanities, you have other students

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Speaker 3: civil war was used. That's the vibe that the students

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm going to call it what it is.

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Speaker 3: It's it's comedy activists in the school here breaking spirits.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly what they're doing. They're try trying to divide

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Speaker 2: Well, and I've observed this. I'm a pattern observer.

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Speaker 1: Marie my friend out there, the conspiracy theorist anyway, No,

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Speaker 1: And I've said this many times Jack. The left and

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Speaker 1: it is hardcore communist activists, Marxist activists behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: Over here you got one side, or here you got

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Speaker 1: screaming no, no, no. These are our friends and neighbors,

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Speaker 1: They're dividing us across the board. This is not i

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Speaker 1: would argue Jack Winsor from the High Press, nor about

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Speaker 1: how Ice is enforcing the law. It may be for some,

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Speaker 1: this is more about stirring the pot of anger and

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Speaker 3: It is, and by the way, there's an opportunity here

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Speaker 3: for teachers. There's an opportunity here for students. And I'm

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Speaker 3: going to talk about our irresponsible governor, if you don't mind,

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Speaker 3: there's an opportunity here for teachers to engage and say, look,

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Speaker 3: you may not like the laws, but you should be

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Speaker 3: abiding by them. And if you don't like them, here

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Speaker 3: is the diplomatic way in which you can go about

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Speaker 3: And here's the other key ingredient. Whether it's the governor,

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is fundamental stuff that they're glossing over.

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Speaker 2: Look, take a break.

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Speaker 1: We'll bring Jack Windsor back talk about maybe another comment

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Speaker 1: that they're not using this as an opportunity for that,

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Speaker 1: but they are supporting the anti ice, angry left wing

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Speaker 2: It's revealing of what.

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Speaker 1: The teacher's true motivation is and their true political reality.

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Speaker 2: That's what it's about. It's politics.

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Speaker 1: It's not educating our children more with Jack wins Are

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Speaker 1: Hey forty if fifty five KRCD talk station. There's another

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Speaker 1: Jack Windsor.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Governor Mike Dwine. A lot of my friends

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Speaker 2: Is that what it is? Oh? The troll?

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Speaker 4: The troll?

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Speaker 1: Anyhow, we also are very critical of little, seemingly little

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Speaker 1: I always refer to as hrting cats. But insofar as

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Governor Wane in that context, but he's also

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Speaker 1: He's a little upset that the temporary protected status may

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Speaker 3: And so Governor Dwine was on CNN with Dana Bash

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Speaker 3: It's deliberate defiance of federal authority. And I want to

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Speaker 3: the most shameless part. Just a few weeks ago, you'll

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Speaker 3: remember Dwine coldly total Hio businesses selling legalized intoxicating hemp

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Speaker 4: I mean, how much more glaring can can this hypocrisy be?

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Speaker 1: No, it's obvious, and again your eyes are wide op.

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Speaker 1: He can complain all day long about the loss of

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Speaker 1: temporary status, but temporary by definition is temporary for God's sake.

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Speaker 1: And if your business model is predicated upon and I

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Speaker 1: suppose Jack, this comes down to cheaply because I had

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Speaker 1: we're safe hiring them to do these jobs we have.

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Speaker 1: If they never got temporary status, they never were able

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Speaker 3: So I want to hit that because I spent a

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Speaker 4: I coined a term last year.

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Speaker 3: I was on Sebastian Gorka's TV show on Newsmax, I

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Speaker 4: Was well, instead of doing that.

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Speaker 3: Overseas, we're going to reverse offshore, We're going to traffic

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Speaker 3: Haitians in And I covered it. I mean, you had

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Speaker 3: But they were hiring Haitians, you know, like it was

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Speaker 1: We'll bring Jack Windsor back for one more, a little

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Speaker 1: bit more to unpackage on this very controversial immigration situation

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Speaker 1: going on here at all Ohio Press Network dot com.

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Speaker 1: That's where we find Jack Windsor and some great reporting,

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Speaker 1: including the reporting on this whole situation in Springfield, the

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Speaker 1: Haitian community you mentioned, Governor of Wine. It seemed to

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Speaker 1: be a concerted effort to bring them. How why Jack,

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Speaker 1: Why Springfield? Why the Haitian community? You mean a why

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Speaker 1: not this Somalia? Why weren't they bringing Somalians in? Or

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Speaker 1: why weren't they bringing Mexican labors in? Or why weren't

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Speaker 4: Bingo.

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Speaker 3: Because Governor Mike Dwine had the Becky Dowine School in

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Speaker 4: And for Haitians.

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Speaker 3: And unfortunately he seems to be a purveyor of lies,

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Speaker 4: And I think that's why. I think it's because he

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Speaker 3: I think that you know, that is his area, and

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Speaker 2: Well in you know, just in a nod to truth.

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Speaker 1: And I know that the judge who put the halt

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that, until you understand that Article two

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Speaker 2: Very valid legal pointing on that one. Subtle but very valid.

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Speaker 3: Jack.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you raising that. Any comments on my friend Maureen,

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Speaker 1: He's always on top of these things. The House Bill

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Speaker 1: believe before. Is there something there there, Jack Windsor in

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Speaker 3: Think there's always been something there. I cannot be judge

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Speaker 4: We'll see.

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Speaker 3: But again, I think fair minded people recognize that this

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Speaker 1: Well, I suppose he doesn't have to worry about his

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Speaker 1: so he'll fade off into the sunset. I suppose Jack

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Speaker 1: windsor maybe with no accountability. Jack, I appreciate you following

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Speaker 1: all these great topics. The Ohio Pressnetwork dot com is

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Speaker 1: where you find Jack each and every day of the week.

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Speaker 1: Recommend you book mark the site and tune into the

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Speaker 1: morning show every Friday because we're going to continue doing this,

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Speaker 1: aren't we.

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