1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Let's go right back to Arthur and chestnut Hill. Arthur, 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: you were waxing very eloquent about the nature of the 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: Islamic Republic, what they have done to us over the 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: last forty seven years, how Jimmy Carter really is ultimately 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: to blame for everything. But we are where we are now, 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: and at this stage of the war, if Trump delivers 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: the defeat of the Mullahs militarily reopening the Strait of Hormus, 8 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: obliterating their nuclear and ballistic program, he gets all of 9 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: that enriched uranium out of the ground. So from a 10 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: military point of view, the Mullahs have been defanged, as 11 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: they say. However, the regime remains intact. For Arthur and 12 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: Chestnut Hill, was the war worth it? And was the 13 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: war a success or a failure? 14 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: Unless these people are taken out, because Iran still remains 15 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: the North Korea of the Middle East, and the fact 16 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: that they are the number one sponsor of terrorism throughout 17 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: the world, and they keep and for forty seven years 18 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: they say death to the Americans. I believe that history 19 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: has taught us when people, when your enemies will tell 20 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: you that they want to kill you, believe them. So 21 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: unless we take them out, then it's been a failure. 22 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: We need these people totally out of Iran and they 23 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: just turned around and publicly execluded three innocent wrestlers publicly. 24 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: That shows you how horrific and barbaric. I'm surprised that 25 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: that alone didn't trigger an uprising from the pro Western Persians. 26 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: The Persians are the ones we want back and power 27 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: and ran and those are the ones that are going 28 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: to be pro Western like that like they used to 29 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: be before Jimmy Carter turned around and turned Iran into 30 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 2: what it is today. But unless these people are out 31 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: and totally out, then we then we did this all 32 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: for nothing. The straight of Formus will be taken care 33 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 2: of eventually, if it's not today, it'll be taken care 34 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 2: of because it's in their interest. The other people, they're 35 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: not going to let it stay the way it is. 36 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 2: We don't have to spill any blood over the straight 37 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: of Formus. That's a temporary situation. But unless these people 38 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: are out and the threat of terror, the terrorism that 39 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: they sponsor, uh, that have to end. And we don't 40 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: need people our country that keeps yelling death to America. 41 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 2: And by the way, we have all their all there 42 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: all their cells are in this country now, and we 43 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: better do something about that as well as and we 44 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 2: have to get rid of these people in Iran, and 45 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: wanted to do something about that. Both things have to 46 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 2: be accomplished. And we should have got something for the 47 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 2: seat for stopping the bombing on the on their grids. 48 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: Interesting, interesting, Arthur, thank you very much for that call. 49 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: In other words, uh, you know the expression in for 50 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: a penny, in for a pound, you declared the war, 51 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: initiated the bombing, finish it. And as Arthur saying, a 52 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: desperate Iran will be a dangerous Iran, they still have 53 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: sleeper cells. The regime will still survive if this deal happens. 54 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's like a snake. You may have defanged 55 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: them for a while, but the fangs will go. I 56 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: will grow back and they'll be just if not more 57 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: dangerous than ever. Six one seven agree, disagree, six one 58 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight is the 59 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: number in Boston. Thanks for holding Greg and welcome. 60 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: I did ideally, I would, I would. I would love 61 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: to see it. Uh uh, Samla is completely removed. Absolutely, 62 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 3: you go, you go to the Old Testament. God's direction 63 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 3: is when you go into the land, wipe everybody out. 64 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 3: And it's for good reason. But you said earlier, you know, 65 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 3: don't let perfect be the enemy of a good deal, 66 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 3: And you're right. It's because if we're gonna if we're 67 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 3: gonna wipe them all out, say goodbye to that the 68 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 3: rest of Trump's presidency. 69 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 4: That's a fact. 70 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: There's no way of getting around it. I saw a 71 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: recent poll over the weekend and with MEGA and believe me, 72 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 3: I bleed red, white and blue. I'm in for a penny, 73 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: in for a pound with Trump, and he's he's tremendous, 74 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: best president in my lifetime. But his polling on this 75 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: war with Mega is negative, double digit negative. And if 76 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: he's gonna finish this, you know, put on a helmet 77 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 3: because it's gonna take the rest of his presidency, the midterms, 78 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 3: forget about it. It'll be a bloodpath, no pun intended. 79 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: And you're gonna be You're gonna be. They're gonna be 80 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 3: go out going after him, left, right and center. And 81 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 3: that's the end of it. So if we want to 82 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: see this through, this is it. This is the last 83 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: thing he's gonna do. And for me, I'm gonna I'm 84 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: gonna take you know, a decent deal or a good 85 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: deal so we can get get the economy. 86 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: Mm, get the economy growing back again. No, I hear you, 87 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 1: and get oil prices down and try to do whatever 88 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: we can to salvage the midterms. No, I'm listen. Look, 89 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: it's it's a big consideration for Trump. I hear you, Greg, 90 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: And that's why he's he's under a bit of a 91 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: time squeeze, a time crunch, and that's why he's looking 92 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: at these options as we speak. Six one seven two six, 93 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. And look, 94 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: make no mistake about it, the Dems are gonna go 95 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: for his throat if they take back the House, and 96 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: especially if they take back the House and the Senate. 97 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: I mean they're already over the weekend. Pritzker, the governor 98 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,119 Speaker 1: of Illinois, the governor of Illinois, came out and said, 99 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna put top people in his administration in jail. 100 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: You know what, to me is incredible. And I'm not 101 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: even making a value judgment. I'm just making a straight 102 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: objective observation. It's akin to a boxing match and one 103 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: fighter Team USA is playing the other fighter, you know, 104 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,799 Speaker 1: a la a lah alah. Okay, So you have Hella 105 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: on one side and you have Uncle Sam on the other, 106 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: and Uncle Sam is just destroying I mean knockdown, knockdown, 107 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: you know, broken his jaw, broken, his nose closed, his 108 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: both of his eyes, I mean, just beating the guy 109 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: to an absolute pulp. And by any objective measure, You're like, 110 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: this thing is over. I mean, it's just it's over. 111 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: Why won't the manager just throw in the towel like 112 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: as you want the guy to get permanent brain damage 113 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: like these he wanted to get killed. And yet unless 114 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: Trump overthrows the Mullahs, essentially it's going to be perceived 115 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: as a defeat for the United States, at least that's 116 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: in the minds of the Iyatolas and some people around 117 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: the world that if they just survive and hang on 118 00:07:55,440 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: and cling to power, and especially if they can continue 119 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: to keep the strait of horm moves clogged or blocked 120 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: shut down, thereby controlling that vital shipping lane, then the 121 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: Iatolds will say, we survive the best that America could 122 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: throw at us, along with Israel, and look how strong 123 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: we are where martyrs were standing, and we now even 124 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: control the most vital waterway in the world, charging potentially 125 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: a toll or a fee for every ship, every container 126 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: of oil from Saudi Arabia to Kuwait, to Dubai to 127 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: Bahrain to just you name your pick. So it's just 128 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: to me incredible that you smash their military, and you 129 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: do it in in a lightning strike of three weeks, 130 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: almost unheard of. Wipe out their navy, wipe out their 131 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: air force, wipe out their air defenses, cripple their ballistic missiles, 132 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: obliterate their nuclear program. You know, on any scorecard, this 133 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: thing is, it's a slaughter. It's a slaughter. And yet 134 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: unless the regime is completely and by the way, you've 135 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: decapitated the regime, you've taken out practically everybody who's in 136 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: a leadership position in the regime, and you've hit over 137 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: eight thousand targets eight thousand. But if they just managed 138 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: to barely hang on, somehow they win like you, sorry, 139 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: can somebody explain this to me? 140 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 2: Is it? 141 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 4: What? 142 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 1: Expectations were set too high when Trump initially came out 143 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: and said we want unconditional surrender. So anything less than 144 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: complete unconditional is now considered a defeat or you didn't 145 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: achieve your goals or is it that he said regime change, 146 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: root and branch, the whole regime they gotta go. Did 147 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: that set the bar too high for not that we 148 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: couldn't do it, but through the means of which we 149 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: were willing to use. Because if we don't use ground troops, 150 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: that means we weren't willing to use all of the 151 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: means available to us to achieve that fundamental end. So anyway, look, 152 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: we're in the endgame now. I think it's pretty clear. 153 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: My question to you, does Trump need to knock off 154 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: the regime, overthrow it, regime change for him to declare 155 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: victory or is anything less than that we perceived as 156 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: a defeat six sixty eight sixty eight agree, disagree. Kathi 157 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: in Denvers. Thanks for holding Kathy and welcome. 158 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 4: Who well, Hi, Hi Jeff, how are you. 159 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you? 160 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: I'm good? I'm good. 161 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 4: You know I'm a Trump supporter, but I was very 162 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 4: very it was a hot swallow changing the defense Department 163 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 4: of Defense to the Department of War because I voted 164 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 4: for the President for peace, not for the president of war. 165 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 4: And you know, right now, Cuba's in a bad way. 166 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 4: They have no electricity, so their brothers, their mothers, their 167 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 4: grandfathers are all dying because they can't get the oxygen. 168 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 4: They can't get on a dialysis machine. 169 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 5: Because part of the problem is Venezuela is holding back 170 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 5: on oil. You know, we can't fix our own problems 171 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 5: here in Massachusetts. On male Wolf's table, it is there 172 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 5: that legal immigrants have the legal right to vote. It's 173 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 5: on for her, it's been passed. 174 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 4: Nobody talks about it, nobody knows it. But twenty nine 175 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 4: percent of Massachusetts is legal immigrants, which covers a vast territory. 176 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 4: We need to fix what's here before we go out 177 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 4: and try to change. I mean, seven percent of our 178 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 4: oil comes through the Strait. What are we fighting for 179 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 4: seven percent for? You know, I think he's getting dead 180 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 4: leadership up there in the Department of War, that's all. 181 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 6: I'm disappointed. 182 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 4: I'm disappointed, Kathy. 183 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: Would do you want him to just declare victory and 184 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: go home? In other words, just extricate and come home. 185 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 2: I do. 186 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 4: I don't want to see electricity out over the air, 187 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 4: you know, I don't. That's not how to control people. 188 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 4: That shouldn't be how to control people. So whoever is 189 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 4: giving him his advice is giving him poor advice. Yes, 190 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 4: pull out and go and get Venezuela. He gets some 191 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 4: oil there of Cuba. I don't care about the leadership. 192 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 4: I care about the people dying because they have no electricity. 193 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 4: That's what I care about. 194 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: I'm Kathy, thank you very much for that call. I 195 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Yeah, the Cuban regime, you know, the 196 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: irony is they are teetering. I mean, the Cuban regime 197 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: is talk about hanging by a thread. They may go 198 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: before the moullas go. And there hasn't even been one 199 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: bomb dropped on Havana, so but yeah, they are. I 200 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: mean they are truly on the ropes. I'm talking about 201 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: the Cuban Communist regime, mass protests, they can't there's no 202 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: electricity now, massive power blackouts. Their grid is now, it's 203 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: it's so incompetently run. And Kathy is right by cutting 204 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: off that oil supply Venezuela was giving him their last 205 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: lifeline by cutting off that cheap oil supply from Venezuela. 206 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: And now the communists have nothing, nothing, and you have 207 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: protests breaking out all over the island, a popular uprising. 208 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: The regime now is in serious panic. And desperation, and 209 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: who knows how much longer they can hang on six 210 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: one seven two, six, six, sixty eight sixty eight. And 211 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: by the way, I swear to you, have you seen 212 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: these stories of all of these communists, you know, like 213 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: X sixties hippies and communes from the United States, from Canada, 214 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: from Europe code pink, all of them are flying to 215 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: Havanah because they can't believe communism is about the fall. 216 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: And so as the people are starving and there's no electricity, 217 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: they're staying at five star hotels and they're cheering the 218 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: communist regime on, like, come on, don't fall, Come on 219 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: Communism forever, Come on baby, ay ya yay i yea 220 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: yaye a ya. You know, they don't make the like hello, itn' 221 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: work communism, it no work. Hello, You're a ground zero 222 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: the famous you know, Cuban Communist revolution. Look at the poverty, 223 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: the misery, just look at them. Look at how desperate 224 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: the people are to overthrow the yoke of communist tyranny. 225 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: And you're coming here telling them, by the way, you know, 226 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: loaded rich, many of them, very wealthy celebrities, and you're 227 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: coming here and you're telling him, Yeah, keep keep living 228 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: in poverty and squalor. Yeah, keep living in chains. We 229 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: you we you. Liberalism is a mental disorder. Ray in Peabty, 230 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: thanks for holding Ray and welcome. 231 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, Hi Jeff, how are you? 232 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you? 233 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: Ray? Not too bad? 234 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: Jeff Cooner Boston's bulldozer. Six one seven two six six 235 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay, let's go 236 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: right back to Ray and Peabody. Ray, my apologies. Mike 237 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: likes the power trip a little bit. He's got control 238 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: of the you know, the button and you know when 239 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: we can break and not break, and so, you know, 240 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: like the Iyapolas, he likes to throw his weight around. 241 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: But anyway, my apologies, Ray, welcome, and what's on your mind. 242 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 7: I had seen a report about a week week and 243 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 7: a half ago, and if it is legitimate and if 244 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 7: it is true, I had seen that it was reported 245 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 7: that the. 246 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 6: Three most southeastern provinces in Iran are not Persians, They're Arabic. 247 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 6: They're Arabs, yes, and they're they're in support of the 248 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 6: exile of cron Prince. 249 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 2: Yes. 250 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 6: Now. The thing I can't understand is why isn't the 251 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 6: CIA and Moussad trying to work out a deal with 252 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 6: Pakistan because that's where those provinces border, not Afghanistan, but 253 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 6: south with Pakistan. Why can't we work out a deal 254 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 6: where our intelligence communities are getting weapons across the border 255 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 6: and into those provinces. Have stopt the revolution or getting 256 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 6: rid of the MOUs from there, because the population has 257 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 6: no weapons, and what are they going to do. They're 258 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 6: going to go out in the streets and protest and 259 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 6: what begun down again to the tumb of thirty forty 260 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 6: fifty thousand. No, they need weapons to fight, and that 261 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 6: may be the perfect place to start. And I can't 262 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 6: understand why I only heard that once and once only, 263 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 6: and why that hasn't been an avenue of getting the 264 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 6: population to revolt against these animals. 265 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: Well, you're right, and it's not just that area. You 266 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: have Kurdish enclaves with an Iran, you have the Baluks, 267 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: you have the Azis. In other words, these are non Persians. 268 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: By the way, many of them loyal to the king 269 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: because the king has promised them that they will their 270 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: cultural autonomy, their linguistic autonomy, will be respected, and that 271 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: they will be treated equally. 272 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 6: Yeah. But the one problem that was with the courage 273 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 6: for example, is the Couras have never been unified. The 274 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 6: curves that you'll find in Iran operate entirely different than 275 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 6: the courgeon in Iraq and the Courgs in Turkey. So 276 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 6: it's not that real unified group where these three provinces 277 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 6: are unified in terms of their objection to the moss. 278 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 2: And the rule. 279 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 6: They need to be armed, though, And why are we 280 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 6: sending in five thousand marines. Let them do the fighting. 281 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm with you, I'm with you, I want to do 282 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: the No. Look, I'll never forget this, and we've jettisoned it, 283 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: and I don't know why, because it was the most 284 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 1: successful model in the history of the world, the Reagan doctrine. 285 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: And everybody forgets the great accomplishment of Ronald Reagan. Everyone says, oh, 286 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: he ended the Cold War, he won the Cold War. Yes, 287 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: but he won it without firing a shot. It wasn't 288 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: through war after war after war, and you know where 289 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: we're just bleeding money and bleeding men and bleeding women 290 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: and bleeding you know, blood and treasure and expending all 291 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: of this. We did it without firing a single bullet. 292 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: How did he do it? He supported internal opposition movements. 293 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: In some cases they were armed and others it was 294 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: through propaganda or funding or whatever it may be. So 295 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: what I don't understand, And again I go back to 296 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: Pete Hegstt, Secretary of War. I would say to him, 297 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: I don't understand. You made a decision to bomb and, 298 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: as you guys said initially, overthrow the Iyatolis. Why didn't 299 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: you send in the CIA on a clandestine mission like 300 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: was done under Reagan again again to arm like the 301 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: Arabs in southwestern Iran. But there's other groups that we 302 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: know are you know, staunch opponents of the regime that 303 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: can't stand the Mullahs and their theocracy. And we train them, 304 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: we fund them, give them some intelligence advice or some 305 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: intelligence information, and we arm them to the teeth, and 306 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: you wage a massive domestic insurgency. So we don't have 307 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: to put our boots on the ground or Israeli boots 308 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: on the ground. The boots on the ground are there already. 309 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: They just need a weapon and they need some help 310 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: and some training. Why didn't you do that? And I'd 311 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: love to hear his response. You know, this is what's 312 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: changed ray in about the last thirty thirty five years, 313 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: it's bomb bomb, that's what we do now, bomb bomb, bomb, 314 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,479 Speaker 1: and then no exit plan. We just keep doing it 315 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: in war after war after war after war. Why don't 316 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: we try to arm, arm, arm and undermine regimes from within, 317 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: especially when you have regimes that are deeply hated and unpopular. 318 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: Ray Am, I wrong, No you're not. 319 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 6: And the problem is is that if we think that 320 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 6: we're going to negotiate with these people at this date, 321 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 6: they're just buying time. They'll walk away. 322 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: Well, I agree with you. They're just buying time, and 323 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: they lie and you can't trust them for you know, 324 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: you can't take their word for anything.