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Speaker 2: And away we go.

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Speaker 3: Sincy three sixty Right here on Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: Chad Brendle, not Tonypike. I guess the boys will be

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Speaker 3: back on Monday. Wow, Tony gets paid on Monday for

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Speaker 3: for the Tony imo Football Show, so they'll definitely be

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Speaker 3: back on Monday, most definitely. Is Audi here on Monday?

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Speaker 3: Is he making it back or is he taking an

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Speaker 3: extended holiday break?

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Speaker 2: You know, that's a great question.

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Speaker 4: I think he's back on Monday, okay if I remember correctly,

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Speaker 4: But I can find that out pretty quickly.

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Speaker 3: I mean, does it really matter it's the Tony Pike

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Speaker 3: since he three to sixty correct, Moondo. So does it

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Speaker 3: really matter if Austin, Like I said, I'm Chad Brenda.

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Speaker 3: That's Drew Western, Heidi filling in on the ones and Tuesaday.

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Speaker 3: We have a lot to get to. It's like I said,

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Speaker 3: Friday football frenzy. We got Bengals Cardinals coming up. Nothing

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Speaker 3: like the thrill of late season meaningless football. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: your chalk full of it. Yesterday Bengals eliminated from playoff contention,

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Speaker 3: Cardinals long eliminated from playoff contention. A battle for draft position, which,

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Speaker 3: if I had to guess, the Bengals are gonna win,

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Speaker 3: ultimately they lose. I don't know, though, it doesn't feel

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Speaker 3: like there's a lot of jockeying for spots like where

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Speaker 3: the Bengals would want to be. The Giants are two

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Speaker 3: and thirteen, the the Raiders are two and thirteen. The Cardinals,

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Speaker 3: the Browns, the Titans, and the Jets are three and twelve.

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Speaker 3: The Commanders are now four and twelve. The Bengals, I guess,

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Speaker 3: battling with the Saints at five and ten, the Falcons

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Speaker 3: Like this doesn't feel like a top ten pick. Anyway

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't feel that way, especially with the way

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Speaker 4: things are going for Kansas City right now. I don't

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Speaker 4: think they're gonna win next week. I think Miami might

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Speaker 4: that's that's another potential. Yeah, that's a potential win there.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you're kind of going to be in the

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Speaker 4: grouping with you know, Kansas City, Miami, Atlanta, which is

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Speaker 4: and and then from there you get into like the

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be like twelve, yeah, thirteen.

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Speaker 4: If I if I had to guess what the Bengals

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Speaker 4: it can find a good player.

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Speaker 3: At thirteen you can find a pretty good but you're

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Speaker 3: not you're probably not going to find a dominant player

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Speaker 2: You're not getting Caleb Downs there.

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Speaker 3: No, So like the hopes of like, okay, this was

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Speaker 3: four and thirteen, Uh, you could land in that group

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, he slid for a reason. A toolsy defensive

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a toolsy safety, a toolsy defensive end like not,

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Speaker 3: you know, we've we've done this many, many, many times.

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Speaker 3: It feels like that's always the story. When they're not

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Speaker 3: wonder a lot of times, why was this guy slotted

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Speaker 3: it's eight, It's eight. Yeah, that's incredible. So you're missing

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Speaker 3: this information. That's every day. The Bengals have ten guys

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Speaker 3: then you wonder why the draft happens, and we go

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Speaker 3: through this vicious cycle of that that guy isn't what

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Speaker 4: And if you do find yourself, let you know, you

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Speaker 4: talked about the if you could gift all the local teams.

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Speaker 4: Let's strip away like from the organization. Let's just focus

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Speaker 4: say the Bengals are picking twelve. Yeah, what kind of

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Speaker 4: like what player and or position would you like the

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Speaker 3: And I haven't looked at enough mock drafts to know

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Speaker 4: I definitely think their evaluations have shifted in the past

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Speaker 3: For me, it would be pass rushing interior defensive lineman.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think a good stop gap defensive tackle.

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Speaker 3: See I would, I would, Yes, I agree, And their

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Speaker 4: Correct and that's what Like, I don't think it's a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that that would be if there was an

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Speaker 3: But look, if you go back to the beginning of

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Speaker 3: from who the hell do you even build around on

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Speaker 3: three years later, I still struggle to talk about it,

436
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Speaker 3: and it sucks that he has to go through this.

437
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Speaker 3: It's it's awful, and.

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Speaker 4: Jay's one of the good guys I've never had a

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Speaker 4: chance to meet Jay, but I've heard so much about

440
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Speaker 4: him through Paul Danner Junior Engineering most show on Tuesdays

441
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Speaker 4: at Oakley Greens and Paul being there all the time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

443
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Speaker 4: So, you know, I've never gotten the chance to meet him,

444
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Speaker 4: but from what I've heard, he is a tremendous human being.

445
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Speaker 4: No one has said a bad thing about him. After

446
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Speaker 4: all this came out, writers, Zach Taylor himself made it

447
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Speaker 4: a point to make a comment about it at the

448
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Speaker 4: end of his media availability on Monday, and yeah, it's

449
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Speaker 4: it's a tragedy and obviously our all of our thoughts

450
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Speaker 4: and prayers are are are with Jay for this, you know,

451
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Speaker 4: indescribably hard time for him.

452
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Speaker 2: It's awful. It's awful.

453
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Speaker 3: Fortunately for Nikki, Jay was is a much better writer

454
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Speaker 3: than me. It's I sat there and stared at a

455
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Speaker 3: computer screen for like three days. Back to football, and

456
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Speaker 3: I know that's what Jay would have wanted. Back to football. Yep,

457
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Speaker 3: Bengals this week, Arizona Cardinals. The Cardinals are bad. They're

458
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Speaker 3: three and twelve, They're they're in last place in the

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Speaker 3: NFC West. They are very much in contention for the

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Speaker 3: number one overall pick. The Bengals have Joe Burrow Like

461
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Speaker 3: that should be enough, right, Drew, Like, Yeah, the Bengals

462
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Speaker 3: are rolling Joe Burrow out there. The Cardinals aren't even

463
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Speaker 3: rolling Kyler Murray out there right like this, this this

464
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Speaker 3: sits win.

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Speaker 4: The last time Kobe Brissette played quarterback in the stadium,

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Speaker 4: he won the game.

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Speaker 2: True. I think this team's a little worse than that one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Arizona losers of seven in a row coming into

469
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Speaker 4: this contest, which i is the second longest streak in

470
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Speaker 4: the NFL behind the New York Giants. In Las Vegas Raiders,

471
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Speaker 4: they have each lost nine in a row. That one

472
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Speaker 4: of those is going to go away after this.

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Speaker 2: Week is yeah. Two those two teams play each other.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to that in our number three as we

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Speaker 3: take a look at the rest of what's upcoming in

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Speaker 3: week seventeen. That is like the front runner, that is

477
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Speaker 3: that game gonna end in a tie? It would be

478
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Speaker 3: very funny if it did. Both teams moved to two

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Speaker 3: thirteen and one.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: You want to see Burrow especially he had a rough

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Speaker 2: week two weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: Yep, And then when's offensive player of the week this week?

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Speaker 3: If he's if he's going to put himself in this

485
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Speaker 3: position where he wants to finish out the season. He

486
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Speaker 3: wants to play. You want to see him look like

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow the rest of the way.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: In Sunday in Miami was a good you know, a

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Speaker 4: good launching off point for that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's take a break. We'll continue with some NFL talk.

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Speaker 3: But an interesting twist here that in our again our

493
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Speaker 3: very extensive and thorough pre show meeting, that Drew and

494
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Speaker 3: I were discussing should the NFL back off on Christmas Day?

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Speaker 3: Because the NBA was awesome yesterday, awesome yesterday, Maybe maybe

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Speaker 3: the NFL should just let the NBA have their day

497
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Speaker 3: more after this, Sincy thirty sixty.

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Speaker 2: Since Any's ESPN fifteen thirty, you've.

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Speaker 5: Been listening to Football in the Natti on ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 5: the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Hey Alexa, who's gonna win it all? Getting ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 2: thirty from iHeartRadio. Actual appraise will depend on producting.

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Speaker 7: Forty seconds to go in overtime. The old kid's setting

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Speaker 7: a scream, Murray, let me fly five seconds to go

505
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Speaker 7: in overtime?

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Speaker 4: What an awesome NBA Day yesterday and just outstanding.

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Speaker 2: Yep, it was.

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Speaker 3: You had the I didn't. I was catching it on

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Speaker 3: and off. How many Christmases do you do?

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Speaker 4: I have one with just my family, one with my

511
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Speaker 4: mom's side of the family, and then I did a

512
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Speaker 4: Christmas Day with my girlfriends and parents yesterday.

513
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Speaker 2: So three, so three, I had six. That's many.

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Speaker 3: It's many, many, many, many Christmas stops. So like you

515
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 3: bounce around a lot, you don't get to like really

516
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Speaker 3: dial in on anything. But in between, we had breakfast

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Speaker 3: at my house yesterday, uh, and then had a couple

518
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Speaker 3: hours before the evening festivities kicked off. I got to

519
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Speaker 3: watch a lot of Nick's calves. That was an outstanding game.

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Speaker 4: Spurs Thunder Ups have the Thunders number man do like

521
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Speaker 4: Wemby that those two teams could be must watch in

522
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Speaker 4: the in the post for a while, Wenby's already talking

523
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Speaker 4: trash about chet. Oh yeah, those two. You want to

524
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Speaker 4: talk about real hate between two guys. That's real hate there.

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Speaker 3: I saw somebody compare it to like the way Michael

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Speaker 3: Jordan would talk about like Clyde Drexler. Clyde's pretty good, right,

527
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Speaker 3: and Jordan's like he's not better me. Sure, Sure, he's

528
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Speaker 3: pretty good. I'm not pretty good, Shay Gilgess Alexander had

529
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Speaker 3: a season low in points. Yesterday twenty two, the thunder

530
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Speaker 3: are twenty six and five, the Warriors with a win

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Speaker 3: over the Mavericks, the Rockets get the Lakers, and then

532
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Speaker 3: last night I went to bed with Nuggets Timberwolves, like

533
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Speaker 3: early in that game, my dog woke me up at

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Speaker 3: like I think I remember that it was one thirty

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Speaker 3: eight in the morning and that game was still going yep,

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Speaker 3: And the Nuggets win in overtime one forty two to

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Speaker 3: thirty eight over the Wolves. Nikolai Jokich fifty six, sixteen

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Speaker 3: and fifteen.

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Speaker 2: He's awesome.

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Speaker 3: And that's the second time he's had a fifty to

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Speaker 3: fifteen to fifteen triple double in the last like eight months.

542
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Speaker 3: He was like April of last year he had another

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Speaker 3: one of those. My goodness. So that begs the question

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Speaker 3: should the NFL just stay away from Christmas Day?

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Speaker 4: That's the NBA's day and it has been my whole

546
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Speaker 4: Like I don't remember when Christmas Day wasn't like an

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Speaker 4: NBA day.

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Speaker 3: And now the NFL is trying to infringe. They had

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Speaker 3: three games yesterday, none of them really with any Lions

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Speaker 3: Vikings I guess is relevant. It was the Lions trying

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Speaker 3: to keep their very slim yeah off hopes a lot. Yeah,

552
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Speaker 3: But other than that, like eh, you know, and now

553
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 3: the Vikings and the Lions are both eliminated, correct, So

554
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 3: none of those games really had much Like shouldn't that

555
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Speaker 3: be the NBA day? It's the unofficial start of the

556
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Speaker 3: NBA season. Just leave Christmas Day to the NBA. Yeah,

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00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 3: I agree with that.

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Speaker 4: And you know, when it falls like it did this year,

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Speaker 4: on a Thursday, and if you want to have you know,

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Speaker 4: one or two games on that Thursday, you know, because

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Speaker 4: that's a natural scheduling progression for the NFL. Sure when

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Speaker 4: you play on a Thursday, play your one Thursday night game, fair,

563
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Speaker 4: you know. I I see both sides to that argument.

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Speaker 4: But like, we don't need teams gearing up for a

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Speaker 4: Tuesday game in December right when we're getting down to

566
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Speaker 4: the nitty gritty of you know, playoff implication football. So

567
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Speaker 4: you know, when it's on a Sunday, it's on a Sunday.

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Speaker 4: You know, that's the way it goes. You're still going

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Speaker 4: to have a full, full slate of NFL games on

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Speaker 4: a Sunday, you know, Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Late late December Saturdays, there's a couple NFL games. I

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Speaker 3: get that exactly, So like just kind of keep it

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Speaker 3: with your natural schedule. Like I actually think the NFL

574
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Speaker 3: scheduling has worked its way nicely into a nice scheduling

575
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Speaker 3: progression with Thursday Saturday Sunday games once you get into

576
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Speaker 3: the late late late stages of the season. Yeah, but yeah,

577
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Speaker 3: like some of my fine finest memories are waking up.

578
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Speaker 3: When I was a kid, we would open gifts at

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Speaker 3: our house with my parents and my two brothers. We

580
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Speaker 3: would you know, we don't gifts about eight, you know,

581
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Speaker 3: eight am or so eight thirty, we get done. We

582
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Speaker 3: would kind of hang out, play with our new toys

583
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Speaker 3: or whatever, and then boom Nicks whoever, Yeah comes on

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Speaker 3: at noon.

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Speaker 2: And pretty much.

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Speaker 4: Wherever we were at, whether that be at our house

587
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Speaker 4: or another family member's house, you know, basketball was on

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Speaker 4: the TV at all times.

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Speaker 3: Some of the guys that led their teams in scoring yesterday, yo,

590
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Speaker 3: kid Anthony Edwards forty four, Luca twenty five and seven,

591
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Speaker 3: Katie twenty five and eight, Cooper Flag really seven and six.

592
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Speaker 2: Really starting to play well. Cooper flag is.

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Speaker 3: Daron Fox had twenty nine and you had Wemby in

594
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Speaker 3: that game. Brunson thirty four, Donovan Mitchell thirty four, seven

595
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Speaker 3: and six. I always laugh at like that they don't

596
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Speaker 3: play defense in the NBA. They are the best scorers

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Speaker 3: in the world. You can play elite defense and watch

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Speaker 3: some of the Donovan Mitchell I had one yesterday at

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Speaker 3: the end of the game where he caught like an

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Speaker 3: outlet pass and he felt the defender coming from behind him.

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Speaker 3: They were down I think five, and he was able

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Speaker 3: to stop. He kept his tippy toe on the court,

603
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Speaker 3: or like playing it, he kept his pivot foot on

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Speaker 3: his tippy toe, was able to recover, get his balance right,

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Speaker 3: and still hit a thirty five foot three to cut

606
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Speaker 3: it to one or two.

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Speaker 2: The skill level in that league.

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Speaker 3: If you if you actually like basketball, and you say

609
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Speaker 3: you don't like the NBA, like you're selling yourself short agreed.

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Speaker 4: You know, and I know NBA coverage doesn't You know.

611
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Speaker 4: NBA doesn't get a whole lot of coverage in this town.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I understand why we don't have a team.

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Speaker 2: We don't have a team.

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Speaker 4: The closest team is the Indiana Pacers. Feels like a

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Speaker 4: lot of people don't really care about that. But man, like,

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Speaker 4: like you said, if you're a basketball fan and he

617
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Speaker 4: just you want to watch the best guys in the

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Speaker 4: world play that sport, just turn on a game with

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Speaker 4: some of these elite players. Like watch Nicola Jokich play basketball.

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Speaker 4: I'm begging you. I know he plays out in Denver.

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Speaker 4: I know it's I know it can be late, but

622
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Speaker 4: like when you can catch Nicola Jokich on an East

623
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Speaker 4: coast like seven thirty or eight o'clock, tip, just watch

624
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Speaker 4: the man play basketball. He looks like your neighbor. He

625
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Speaker 4: looks like he should be fixing your car, and he

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Speaker 4: he does. He does something on a basketball court every

627
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Speaker 4: night where I'm like, I don't think I've ever seen

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Speaker 4: that before.

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Speaker 2: Fifty six, sixteen and fifteen.

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Speaker 4: That was good for one hundred and eight fantasy points

631
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Speaker 4: in a like regular scoring ESPN Fantasy Basketball League's.

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Speaker 3: He's what just a one hundred and eight, He's just

633
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Speaker 3: a fraction under thirty a game. He's almost averaging a

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Speaker 3: thirty point triple double a game. He is averaging a

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Speaker 3: thirty point triple double in the month of December.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like twenty nine and a half or whatever

637
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Speaker 4: it is, twelve and eleven.

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Speaker 2: Stupid, and he still might not win MVP. Right, it's

639
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Speaker 2: gonna it's gonna be a fun NBA season. It is.

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Speaker 4: I I really do think this is going to be

641
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Speaker 4: a very, very especially the Western Conference playoffs between I

642
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 4: think the Nuggets are a lot better. The Spurs are ascending,

643
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 4: the thunder or the champs. You know, Anthony. Once you

644
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 4: get Anthony Edwards into April and may like the Wolves

645
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 4: all of a sudden become a legitimate threat because of him,

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be a fun a fun NBA year.

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Speaker 3: Yep, all right, let's take a quick break. Well, one

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Speaker 3: more segment in our number one. We will keep this

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Speaker 3: train rolling. This is since he three sixty a service

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Speaker 3: of Skyline Chile.

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Speaker 2: W c K one. Here we go winding down our

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Speaker 2: number one.

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00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 4: Oh, Mike's gone. Kind of ruins that true. Yes, our

654
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 4: plans have been foiled. Our plans have been foiled. We

655
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 4: were gonna go to Mike. Now Mike's not there. I

656
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 4: guess we can hit on the big news of the

657
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 4: day nationally. Former soon to be former Utah coach Kyle

658
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 4: Whittingham now all reports expecting him to be the next

659
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 4: head coach at the University of Michigan. Michigan was in

660
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 4: a tough spot. They lost their coach late in the cycle.

661
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 4: They did not plan on losing their coach, although you

662
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 4: might be able to argue how much they knew that

663
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 4: this was a possibility before it happened. Apparently it was

664
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 4: one of those worst kept secrets in the country in

665
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 4: ann Arbor, what Sharion Moore was doing in his free time.

666
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 4: But Whittingham had stepped down at Utah. The show before

667
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 4: US acted like they had no idea. Kyle Whittingham made

668
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 4: it very clear, I'm not retiring.

669
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: On my way in. They were like I thought he retired.

670
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 3: Then you didn't didn't pay attention to the situation at

671
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: all because he said he joked he was entering the

672
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 3: transfer portal. I don't think Michigan could have done any

673
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:22,959
Speaker 3: better than this one. They came into the process late, Drew.

674
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,479
Speaker 3: Most of the good names were gone. Yep, you don't

675
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 3: want to go get like the twelfth best guy. Winningham

676
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: becomes available. One he's a really good coach, and two

677
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 3: stylistically he fits Michigan perfect aggressive defense, run the football,

678
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 3: super efficient on offense.

679
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 2: Hard knows like he's not a Michigan man.

680
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 4: But as things stand like, I don't think they could

681
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 4: have done any better than this. No, I completely agree,

682
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 4: And it's interesting. I didn't think this was going to

683
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 4: be one that was they were capable of getting. But

684
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 4: then when he became available and made that joke and

685
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 4: lo and behold.

686
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: Here we are.

687
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 3: I mean what I guess they were waiting for Debor

688
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: in that first round game, things could have been different.

689
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 3: Had Alabama lost that game, they get down big, they

690
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 3: come back and win. Michigan has to pivot. I think

691
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 3: Whittingham's a better fit than to Boor. The only question

692
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 3: you have here with Whittingham's age. He's sixty six, but

693
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 3: if you look at the guy, he does not look

694
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 3: like a guy that's near the end. I think he

695
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 3: would have four or five six good years left in him.

696
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 2: Yep, So kudos to them.

697
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 3: I mean the style that they want, who they want

698
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 3: to be, the like what they want Michigan football to

699
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 3: be about. This isn't a Michigan guy, But man, I

700
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 3: think they might have gave themselves a couple of years

701
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 3: wondering in the wilderness if they had made a bad hire.

702
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: I think they made a good one. Agreed.

703
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 4: Did Mike ever show back up? Mike's back, Mike's back

704
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 4: if we want to go to Mike here we got

705
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 4: we got a couple of minutes yet some time. All right, Mike,

706
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 4: we were waiting on you and then you were gone.

707
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 4: Are you okay?

708
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 6: Well I had time for a damn CT scam while

709
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 6: I was waiting, brother, or now I'm good?

710
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 4: Well? I mean, you know, sometimes Merry Christmas. Sometimes we've

711
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 4: got a show playing, Mike.

712
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I understand, but we don't know that as listeners. No,

713
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 6: you know, we don't get the inside pooped.

714
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 2: So I'll communicate better next time, Mike.

715
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 6: No, that's all right, brother. You guys got me all

716
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 6: jacked off at the beginning there with the with the

717
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 6: cancer talk, because you know, I didn't tell you I

718
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 6: lost my wife after nineteen years, five kids. Yeah, and uh,

719
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 6: not to cancer but something else. So I know how

720
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 6: how that goes.

721
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 2: It sucks.

722
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 6: Things are never the same after that.

723
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: Not really, they're not.

724
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 6: They're not. They're not supposed to be. But that's okay.

725
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 6: You've you've weathered the storm, at least, you know, on

726
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 6: the out outwardly I think to tell you this many times,

727
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 6: I commend you on how you've gotten through this, because

728
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 6: I didn't do as well as you have outwardly.

729
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 3: I will say this, the first eighteen months or so,

730
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 3: it was a blur, like it was just complete fog,

731
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 3: complete fog. And you just get up every day and

732
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 3: you do what you got to do to get to bedtime,

733
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: and you go to bed, and you get up the

734
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 3: next day and you do it again. And after about

735
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 3: a year and a half it started to, uh, I

736
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: started to feel kind of normal again. But there was

737
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 3: eighteen months that I was not myself in any way,

738
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 3: shape or form.

739
00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 8: No.

740
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 6: And initially, you know, you wake up like, uh, where

741
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 6: where is she? Right? Stuff like that, because then that

742
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 6: goes on. Everybody's different. But that went on for me

743
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 6: for quite a while.

744
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 3: I mean still like Kelly and I are together for

745
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 3: twenty three years. Yeah, I think Jay thirty seven years

746
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 3: with his wife.

747
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean they become your part of you real yeah,

748
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 6: and then they then you throw their children in and

749
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 6: oh my god.

750
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

751
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 6: Yeah. So my hat's off to you, brother, I.

752
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: Thank you, sir, to you.

753
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 6: I got a bunch of stuff for you here. If

754
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 6: you guys just more than a minute.

755
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 4: We got about two minutes, true, yeah, about two minutes here, Okay.

756
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 6: Thanks, I was going to bring up well, I'll go

757
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 6: ahead and bring it up, but then I want to

758
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 6: talk Patino Junior. And then I want to talk some

759
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 6: awesome food with you that I had over the weekend

760
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 6: that won't take for the ten seconds. Why are we

761
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 6: I mean not, why are we? Kind of we're always

762
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 6: so tired of with our Red Bengals Next year, next year,

763
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 6: next year, next year.

764
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 2: Because they never do enough this year.

765
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 6: I don't see, right, I don't see it ending. Chad,

766
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 6: I don't.

767
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 3: Think don't I don't either, Mike, Unfortunately, because they they

768
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 3: want to do things halfway. I hope, upon hope that

769
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: the Bengals realize Joe Burrow's entering his late twenties, like

770
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 3: this window ain't gonna be open forever, or almost exiting

771
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 3: his late twenties, right he's twenty nine.

772
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, like he's almost into his thirties. If you're gonna

773
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 4: get it done, it better get done in the next

774
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 4: two three years or it's not gonna happen.

775
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: I don't think not here, Nora.

776
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 6: You know you want to win. He's not if these

777
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 6: people think that these guys are so committed to their

778
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 6: home area team. I mean he's from Anthems. He ain't

779
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 6: nowhere near from Cincinnati, right. But if they think that,

780
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 6: the long because these guys all want the money and

781
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 6: they want that damn ring and it and the Allegiance

782
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,959
Speaker 6: is going to go bye bye, bye bye.

783
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 3: Mike, He's gonna have at the end of this a

784
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 3: quarter of a billion dollars.

785
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 2: He doesn't need money anymore.

786
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 6: Some guys do, but he don't.

787
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: He don't.

788
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 6: And then it's a matter of he you know, he

789
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 6: wants that ship. Everybody wants that ship, and how can

790
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 6: you blame him, especially when you know how good you are.

791
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 6: He knows how good he is.

792
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he knows. He's one of the two or three

793
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 3: best quarterbacks in the NFL.

794
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, God, I've got to grind on you

795
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 6: after a while, just does. And the Reds I don't

796
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 6: even I don't even know where to go with that.

797
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 6: We don't have anybody on the Reds like that. So

798
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 6: I don't even know where to start with that team

799
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 6: Hunter Green or whatever does he pitched half the year?

800
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 6: Maybe Elie de la Cruz. Now he's not Joe Burrow.

801
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 6: He's not the equivalent of Joe Burrow in football yet

802
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 6: at least Oh yeah, well, they say will be. I'll

803
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 6: tell you what I'm with you about Patino Junior. And

804
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 6: the reason is one of the main reasons is, you know,

805
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 6: is he just comes from such good stalk.

806
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 3: That doesn't always that doesn't always guarantee success. But he

807
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 3: has shown an ability to grow. And I have to

808
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 3: go Mike unfortunately, but he has shown an ability to

809
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 3: adapt and grow. His team looks and plays nothing like

810
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 3: they did at the beginning of the year. They have evolved,

811
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: they have gotten better. The arrow is pointing up. So

812
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 3: it's hard not to love the job Richard Patino has

813
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 3: done at Xavier, even if I don't like to admit it,

814
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: and Drew probably likes to admit it less.

815
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 6: Yeah and real quick one Christmas Eve, do you know

816
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 6: what sweetbreads are?

817
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 9: Oh?

818
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I had Salamus glund Land out of the cow.

819
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 6: I had Burne. I had sweet breads with Burnet's and

820
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 6: puraid carrots at French restaurant in Pasadena called The Maria.

821
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 6: Following that up yesterday with coffee roasted rack of lamb

822
00:45:54,960 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 6: with pureaid turnips laced with cinnamon and brown sugar. On

823
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 6: that note, Audios, all.

824
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 3: Right, thanks Mike, Mike, you had a great Christmas. And

825
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 3: uh let's take a break. Hour number two coming up

826
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Speaker 3: right after this Sincy three sixty right here on ESPN fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, Hour number two since he thirty sixty. I

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Speaker 3: am I'm not Tony Bike, I'm Chad Brenda. That's not

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Speaker 3: Austin Almore that's true Western Heidi. Getting you through Boxing

843
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Speaker 3: day the day after Christmas? Did you did you have

844
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: a good Christmas?

845
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 8: Drew?

846
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 2: What what?

847
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 4: What was your favorite gift you got and the favorite

848
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 4: gift you gave? So I'll start with with what I got.

849
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 4: I turned thirty this year, Okay, and it truly does

850
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 4: feel like I've gotten older and wiser because I was

851
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 4: extremely excited about a portable air pump and a new

852
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 4: knife set. I also got a new knife set, and

853
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 4: boy am I ecstatic about it? Yeah, I'm really happy

854
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 4: with the new knife set as well. And then as

855
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 4: far as my favorite gift that I gave, my nephew

856
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 4: turned three this year, so I got him his first

857
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 4: t ball glove. Nice for when he eventually starts to

858
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 4: play baseball or.

859
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: What you know, whatever you know.

860
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 4: I wanted to wanted to give him a glove old

861
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 4: uncle Drew, who was the baseball player the family. Felt

862
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 4: felt right, felt like a good time for it. So

863
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 4: that was that was my favorite gift that I gave.

864
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 3: Like to hear it, I I the favorite gift I got, uh,

865
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 3: the knife set was right up there with the I

866
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 3: got a new double basket air fryer.

867
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 2: Nice.

868
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 3: So I'm pretty I'm pretty excited about that. We're gonna

869
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 3: we're gonna crack that thing out of the box probably

870
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 3: tomorrow and give it a test run.

871
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 6: Uh.

872
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 3: And then I've been needing a new knife set. The

873
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 3: knife set that I had it was it was a

874
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 3: great knife set. I was given that as a present

875
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 3: for my wedding. I got married in two thousand and seven,

876
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 3: so I was in need of a new knife set.

877
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 3: It was time. And then the favorite gift that I

878
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 3: gave was to my daughter her. She got the uh,

879
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 3: the the dice in a hair dryer that.

880
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 2: All the women rave about. Nice.

881
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 3: She's got really long, thick hair. It takes her like

882
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 3: an hour. This is We're gonna be an honest, Drue.

883
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 3: It's a little bit for me because it normally takes

884
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 3: her like an hour, hour and fifteen minutes to dry

885
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 3: her hair. She tried out the new dice and it

886
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 3: was like fifteen twenty minutes.

887
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 2: Ooh, there you go.

888
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 3: So we might have cut an hour of lead time

889
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 3: off of you know, going and doing things. And they're

890
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 3: a value there, that is future value and she's gonna

891
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 3: use it right Like what you don't want to do?

892
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 4: You buy these expensive gifts and like, you know, your

893
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,479
Speaker 4: kid grows out of that gift, and that gift gets

894
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 4: like three months of use and then you know it's

895
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,479
Speaker 4: it's tucked away somewhere to be found like ten years later.

896
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 3: I think she's gonna use the hair dryer a lot,

897
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 3: So I feel good about it. It was expensive, probably more

898
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 3: than I wanted to spend, but again, future value there,

899
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 3: there's there's your value. Yes, there's ROI there's a return

900
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 3: on investment on that type of Christmas gift. And then

901
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 3: I got the girlfriend a new comforter that feels like

902
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 3: you're laying on a cloud. So I'm gonna get some

903
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 3: benefit and value out of that one too because we

904
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 3: share the comforter.

905
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 2: So I feel pretty good about that too.

906
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 3: You got to you gotta make sure that there's some

907
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 3: return on investment for the gifts for sure, unless it's

908
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 3: like a little kid, right, like a little kid, although

909
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:34,439
Speaker 3: I was bad. My girlfriend has a grandson. He's like five, right.

910
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 3: I got him a DJ kit, okay, and it's got

911
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 3: like the little like turntable wheel. You can mix it

912
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 3: and it scratches on the record that's playing. And then

913
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 3: I got him like a blaster gun that had thirty

914
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 3: thousand uh bullets that came with it. And I'm pretty

915
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 3: sure my girlfriend's daughter is gonna hate me forever. Oh,

916
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 3: come on, maybe not forever, but at least until the

917
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 3: next time she sees me. Yeah, at least until the

918
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 3: next time she sees me. Let's get to a little

919
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 3: bit of Reds here, Drew. As we're through.

920
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 4: The winter meetings, feels like most of the splashy things

921
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 4: that were going to happen have happened.

922
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 3: The Reds have done minimal. We knew, look, they needed

923
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 3: they had some holes in the bullpen that they had

924
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 3: to fill that. They still need a utility infielder, and

925
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 3: you know they're probably going to try to do that

926
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 3: on the cheap late in the process. That is their

927
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 3: mo They won eighty three games last year. Is there

928
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 3: some like can Matt McLain improved?

929
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: Yes?

930
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 3: Will it be nice to see like a Noel V.

931
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 3: Marte have a full season like the stretches that we

932
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 3: saw from him last year. I would like that maybe

933
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 3: you get Ellie Da la Cruz healthy for a whole year,

934
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 3: and if he is a little dinged up, little banged up,

935
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 3: you you actually sit him for a couple of games

936
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 3: to let him feel better, let him recover. But man,

937
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 3: I look at this roster. I don't hate it. It's

938
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 3: not you know, it's not a tanking Reds roster. We've

939
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 3: seen plenty of those. But it's it's not a it's

940
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 3: not a championship. It's not a roster I feel can

941
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 3: win the division. It's not a roster I feel can

942
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 3: can make noise in the playoffs. It feels like it's

943
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 3: it's exactly what the Reds front office wants. And as

944
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 3: a Reds fan, that is incredibly frustrating because it feels

945
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 3: like they want to be seventy five and seventy five

946
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 3: and let the chips from the other. You know, however,

947
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 3: many hundred the other twelve games fall where they may

948
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 3: to determine what their record is.

949
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna I don't think they are. They haven't

950
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 4: least any projections or wind totals or anything. But I'm

951
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 4: willing to bet that the Reds will open with the

952
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 4: win total of eighty and a half.

953
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: I was going to guess seventy nine and a half.

954
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 4: I think eighty and a half will be and I

955
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 4: will I think I would lean over, but I wouldn't

956
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 4: feel great about it, no confidence at all. So yeah,

957
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 4: it's and again, like I said earlier, they're going to

958
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 4: go into next season relying on leaps, you know, not

959
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 4: steps forward leaps. You're you're hoping South Stewart turns into

960
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 4: an All Star. You're hoping Matt McClain. And again, hope's

961
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 4: not a strategy, but this is, yes, it is. It

962
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 4: is for the Reds. You're hoping Matt McClain can regain

963
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 4: the form he had in his rookie year. You're hoping

964
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 4: Spencer Steer can stay healthy, and you know, be that

965
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 4: because there was a point there in the middle of

966
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 4: the year where gosh, if the Reds needed a clutch

967
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 4: hit spent and Spencer Steer found himself at the plate,

968
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 4: he would find a way to do it.

969
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: So you hope you get that.

970
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 4: You hope Noelvie Marte being in the right in the

971
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 4: outfield for an entire season, you know, elevates him as

972
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 4: a player. So it's and as I said earlier, it

973
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 4: feels like they are making a bunch of very very

974
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 4: good moves for a team that just made a splash signing,

975
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 4: except they didn't make the splash signing at all.

976
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 2: So that's what is that is what's.

977
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 4: You know, the the big conundrum when it comes to

978
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 4: the Cincinnati Reds. Could they go out and win eighty

979
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 4: six eighty seven games? Yeah, I think it's possible. I

980
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 4: wouldn't bet on that, but I think they're capable. I

981
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 4: think they have talent. I just I worry about the

982
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 4: offensive consistency and the rotation staying healthy.

983
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 2: Serious question.

984
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 3: Let's hypothetically say all the right things happen, I still

985
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 3: have I can't get myself the ninety wins with this roster.

986
00:54:59,120 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 2: I think seven.

987
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 4: I think if you everything going very well, that's when

988
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 4: you get into how far does the rotation take you? Like,

989
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 4: if Hunter Green and Lodolo and Abbot are healthy for

990
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 4: most of the season and they all have good years.

991
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 4: If Chase Burns starts to figure it out and he's

992
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 4: your number four starter and he has a good year,

993
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 4: what are you gonna get from Rehet Louder or somebody else?

994
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 2: Now?

995
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 4: Honestly, I think Brady Singer is back for another year now,

996
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 4: all things considered. Really, you know, obviously, Hunter Green dealt

997
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 4: with some injuries last year. Lodolo spent some time on

998
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,959
Speaker 4: the injured list. Abbot missed at the beginning of the year.

999
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 4: But like all things considered, I thought the starting pitching

1000
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 4: health was pretty pretty solid last year. You know, can

1001
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 4: you Rea, you know, can you get that to continue

1002
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 4: in the next season. So that'll be, you know, a

1003
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 4: big question on that front. You know, once opening Day

1004
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 4: rolls around, I'm gonna talk myself into this Reds team

1005
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 4: and how great of a season they're gonna have. But

1006
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 4: right now, on December twenty sixth, I'm not exactly confident.

1007
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 3: I have very little Like it feels like an eighty

1008
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 3: to eighty three, eighty four win team.

1009
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 2: He feels like last year's team because a lot of respects.

1010
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 2: That's what it is.

1011
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 3: The question is do they actually replace the guys that

1012
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 3: that they lost in the bullpen that while they might

1013
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 3: not have been great, those guys ate a ton of innings,

1014
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 3: just devoured innings. Now, look, I like the strategy. I

1015
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 3: don't like it on on the human side, But you

1016
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 3: bring a guy in for the bullpen, you have him

1017
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 3: eat a ton of innings, and then you let somebody

1018
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 3: else worry about the effect on his arm the next year.

1019
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 3: I don't mind that strategy, but boy, it becomes really

1020
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 3: tough to keep going out and getting guys that can

1021
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 3: pitch four or five nights a week. It feels like

1022
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 3: in pretty high leverage situations you're not gonna hit on

1023
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 3: many of those guys.

1024
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: So it's it's you know, when.

1025
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 3: You're dealing with June and July and that middle of

1026
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 3: summer drag, do you have the arms? Do you have

1027
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 3: the depth? Do you have the guys that can eat

1028
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 3: enough innings to get you through that protect your starting

1029
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,439
Speaker 3: pitching Because again, remember Brady Singer is the only guy

1030
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 3: that's thrown more than one hundred and fifty innings on

1031
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 3: this staff, Hunter Green one time through one hundred and

1032
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 3: fifty innings. None of those other guys they're gonna be

1033
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 3: counting on have thrown one hundred and fifty innings in

1034
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 3: a season, Lodolo, Green, Ashcraft, louder Burns. You know, you

1035
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 3: go on down the line, they don't have a lot

1036
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 3: of starting pitching depth. I think they've got a lot

1037
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 3: of starting pitching talent, but man, you're counting on guys

1038
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 3: to do things they either have done once or haven't

1039
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 3: done before. And Drew that scares the crap out of

1040
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 3: me when trying to project one hundred and sixty two games.

1041
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, all.

1042
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 4: Right, stake a break, talkbacks, get your talkbacks in. Let

1043
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 4: us know what you got for Christmas. Best gift you got,

1044
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 4: best gift you gave. Let us know how things went,

1045
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 4: and chime in on the Bengals defense, chime in on

1046
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 4: the Reds Drew, and I'll get some college basketball talks.

1047
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 4: If you're a Xavier fan, call and let me have it.

1048
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 4: It's the first three sixty I've hosted since the shootout,

1049
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 4: So have your fun and we'll talk to you right

1050
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 4: after this. Since that's ESPN fifteen thirty. Hey, Alexa, who's

1051
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 4: out here? All right, there we go, It's time for

1052
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 4: talkbacks Day after Christmas edition. Real quick though, before we

1053
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 4: get on Drew, Zach Taylor reports JOSEPHSI and Charlie Jones

1054
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 4: are out Sunday against Arizona. No offense, questionable, tough one

1055
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 4: for a cy. I think he'd like to be out

1056
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 4: there trying to, you know, show what he can do

1057
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 4: to to work towards that next contract.

1058
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 2: But we'll get to that later. Let's let's get to

1059
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 2: some talkbacks. Let's do it.

1060
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 10: I agree one I would draft a defensive tackle with

1061
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 10: the first pick, no doubt about it. Try to get

1062
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 10: the best safety you can in free agency. Try to

1063
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 10: get a pretty good linebacker. And free agency I would

1064
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 10: try to resign Osai. I like the way Jaylen Davis

1065
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 10: has been playing lately. Merry Christmas. Appreciate you, loud talkback guy.

1066
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 10: I feel good about things.

1067
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 3: I always think loud talkback guy leaves great talkbacks when

1068
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 3: he agrees with us. Drew that I think that's a

1069
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 3: good sign for where we're at. Agreed, I agree with

1070
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 3: everything you just said. There Shall we move on.

1071
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 2: Let's smooth one. Yeah, I agree one. That was a

1072
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 2: double he Drew.

1073
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 8: Chad. Happy holidays, guys, Thank you taking me and my

1074
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 8: heart goes out to you, Chad and Jay. I have

1075
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 8: been through it myself. My wife also passed unexpectedly shortly

1076
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 8: before her twenty fifth birthday. Oh, telling us are then

1077
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 8: six and four year old girls that they weren't going

1078
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 8: to see he again. It's probably the hardest thing you'll

1079
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 8: ever have to do. On the other end of the spectrum. Uh,

1080
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 8: if you guys want to experience pure joy given an

1081
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 8: eight year old who loves music, their first drum set

1082
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 8: for Christmas is priceless.

1083
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 2: Oh, I remember my drum kit Christmas. Loved it.

1084
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I I ended up playing drums for

1085
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 3: a while, like into you know, so I yeah.

1086
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 2: I don't know that I was.

1087
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 3: It's it's the first Christmas with the girlfriend and her family.

1088
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 3: I didn't want to go all the way to drum

1089
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 3: set right away, right fair enough, but like I figured, DJ. Yes,

1090
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 3: it's a good that's a nice like middle grounds there

1091
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 3: it connects to a Bluetooth speaker yep. Like he immediately

1092
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 3: was like, I'm DJing this party Christmas. He like, I've

1093
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 3: got a picture of him. He's got like one hand

1094
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 3: up in the air and one hand on the turntable.

1095
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 2: He's like already knows what to do.

1096
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,919
Speaker 3: He told his mom, like, I'm djying the New Year's

1097
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 3: Eve party. I'm like, I this is gonna It's not

1098
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 3: a drum set. It's not gonna get me killed, but

1099
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 3: it's gonna make some noise.

1100
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 2: I love it, and I know.

1101
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 8: What everybody's thinking. Give me an eight year old a

1102
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:39,959
Speaker 8: drum set. What the hell is that guy thinking he's

1103
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 8: never gonna sleep again? Pro tip, it's an electronic set.

1104
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 8: There you go headphones and they sell muting tips for

1105
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 8: the sticks. So if you guys are thinking about it,

1106
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 8: trust me, it was the way to go.

1107
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1108
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 4: Mine was the old school drum kit. Yeah, but we

1109
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 4: we put that out. We put that out in the

1110
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 4: garage and kind of soundproofed like a little corner of

1111
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,439
Speaker 4: the garage as best we could.

1112
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 3: I remember at one point I had an electronic one.

1113
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 3: I've never had an electronic one, but I don't think

1114
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 3: they had gotten like I don't think headphones really were

1115
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 3: worked into it at that point. So it was it

1116
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 3: was electronic, but it would sounded right like a.

1117
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 2: Normal drum kit.

1118
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 4: Gosh, I gotta think these electronic kits nowadays have got

1119
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 4: to be insane. Oh they're my uh so, my uncle

1120
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 4: works in music and like his kids and grandkids, they

1121
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 4: have like the the really really advanced ones that'll like

1122
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 4: teach you how to play drums, like as part of

1123
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 4: the software or whatever.

1124
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 9: Nice Hey Joe from Casey here asking if the NFL

1125
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 9: should let the NBA have the day first, they never will.

1126
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 2: Second, i'd be curious to see hear what the.

1127
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 9: Ratings are for yesterday, what the NBA did versus the NFL. Third,

1128
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,439
Speaker 9: I'd be willing to bet the NFL could a couple

1129
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 9: of three man teams together and have them play a

1130
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 9: little three on three basketball and it would get better

1131
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 9: ratings than the game.

1132
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 4: Well, the thing about the thing about like the rating

1133
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 4: stuff is that the NFL wasn't on traditional TV, right,

1134
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 4: so you you know, these streaming services can see the

1135
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 4: numbers and they can choose to release them, but they

1136
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 4: don't have to.

1137
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 2: They don't have to.

1138
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 4: And I you know, I think I've read where like

1139
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 4: NBA ratings are up big time this year, and I

1140
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 4: think I think Amazon getting in on the NBA with

1141
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 4: their their new pre and post game crew, which they've

1142
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 4: done a very good job. And I think at the

1143
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 4: NBA being on NBC again has played a big factor

1144
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 4: into you know, people kind of re engaging with the

1145
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 4: league and how it's discussed in the discourse around it.

1146
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 4: So I actually think the NBA is having a pretty

1147
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 4: good season. And look, look the NFL is it's the

1148
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 4: the Yeah, it's kids. If they wanted to, if they

1149
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 4: wanted to put every have every team play on Christmas Day,

1150
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 4: they do it, and they could if they wanted to.

1151
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 4: But I don't know, like I said, from a pure

1152
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 4: entertainment value, standpoint, the last couple of years, the NBA

1153
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 4: has been more better and more fun to watch than

1154
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 4: the NFL on Christmas Day. Agreed, it's a it's a

1155
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 4: more enjoyable product on that day. Now, maybe some of

1156
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 4: that's the NFL is not picking the right games, or

1157
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 4: sure you pick games before the season starts. And I mean,

1158
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 4: I'm sure they thought Vikings Lions was going to be

1159
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 4: a monster Denver, Kansas City was going to be a monster.

1160
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 2: Right, But that's the joy of the NBA.

1161
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 3: It's like early in their season, right, those stories have

1162
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 3: not been told yet.

1163
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 6: Right.

1164
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 3: That's why I love Christmas Day for the NBA because

1165
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 3: you get the stars, you get the big name teams,

1166
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 3: and it's really like the first real look at these

1167
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 3: teams playing each other and you know, getting ready to

1168
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 3: get into like the heart of the season. The NFL,

1169
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 3: there's a lot what there's there's two playoff spots in

1170
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 3: the a f C available and one playoff spot in

1171
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 3: the NFC available.

1172
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 4: It's not a lot of teams left. Everyone else is

1173
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 4: just playing out the string.

1174
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 11: Yeah he has and so Bright and the boy anyways, anyway, Yea,

1175
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 11: for the longest time, I I thought your new girlfriend

1176
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 11: was the a d.

1177
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 6: At UC Clifton.

1178
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 11: I mean, you talk about that whole organization so glowingly?

1179
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 2: Who I don't anyway, try though.

1180
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 11: Longtime fan of yours, thank you, Sorry for the cheap shot.

1181
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 2: Like that sounded like the Chappelle's skid at the end.

1182
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 4: Kind of here's the thing, how could I possibly be

1183
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 4: talking glowingly about UC? I was gonna say, I don't

1184
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 4: think i've seen you talk about U s the past

1185
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 4: month that I wouldn't use the word glowing to describe

1186
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:05,439
Speaker 4: now discuss them absolutely not, Like I get it, Like, look,

1187
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 4: I've got relationships there, I've got a business.

1188
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 2: I can't be.

1189
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 4: Jim Bob thirty five seven four six twenty five on

1190
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 4: Twitter that can just say anything they want.

1191
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 3: I've got to I've been doing this for a long time.

1192
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 3: I intend to keep doing it for a long time.

1193
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 3: If I just go around blow torching relationships all the time,

1194
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 3: I can be able to to buy expensive hair dryers

1195
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 3: from my daughter.

1196
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 2: There you go. That was it. We were pretty.

1197
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 4: We were pretty like today unsurprisingly unbelievable. Fine, Uh, Drew,

1198
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 4: I guess we'll just take a break. I guess we

1199
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 4: just take a break. Uh on coming up?

1200
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 2: We'll do some football on the Natty. When we come up.

1201
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.

1202
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 4: If you guys want to leave some more talkbacks, well,

1203
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 4: like the last segment in this hour, will come back.

1204
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 4: We'll do football on the Natty then if you want,

1205
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 4: if you want to get some more talkbacks in, we'll

1206
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 4: leave that last segment of the hour open for that.

1207
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 4: All right, yep, I will keep checking periodically. All right, now,

1208
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 4: let's take a break.

1209
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 2: Nothing else. Let's just let's go to break.

1210
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 3: All right more after this Since he thirty sixty, ESPN

1211
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 3: fifteen thirty, I've all.

1212
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 5: We ball in the NATI brought to you by Bud

1213
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 5: Light on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the

1214
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 5: Cincinnati Bengals.

1215
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 4: Buckle back Friday football frenzy right here.

1216
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 2: On Sincenny's ESPN fifteen thirty. Since the thirty.

1217
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 3: Sixty, I am. I'm not Tony Pike. That's not Austin Elmore.

1218
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 3: I'm Chad Brendle. That's Drew Western. Heidi, we are taking

1219
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 3: you through this wonderful Friday early afternoon. It's gonna be

1220
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 3: sixty seven degrees tomorrow. I saw that. It's a shame,

1221
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 3: it's so wet. I would look like, yeah, stuff like that.

1222
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 4: I'd get out on the golf course tomorrow, but hold

1223
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 4: too much, too much moisture in the air to go

1224
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 4: do that.

1225
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm thinking tomorrow is supposed to be dry. I'm

1226
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 3: thinking I might get to do a fire pit tomorrow night.

1227
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 2: There go. Like I am a die hard fire pit guy.

1228
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 2: Me too.

1229
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 4: I love I love a good a good fire pit,

1230
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 4: some ice, cold, sincy lights, good fire pit.

1231
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 8: Like.

1232
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 2: I'm a happy camper.

1233
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 3: So normally, you know, once you hit like November, especially

1234
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 3: like with my schedule, there's not a lot of fire

1235
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 3: pit like opportunities. I think tomorrow night is a fire

1236
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 3: pit opportunity. I think I'm gonna have to take advantage.

1237
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it. So looking forward to it.

1238
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 3: Uh did you see uh the press conference with Ryan Kennedy?

1239
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 4: True, I can't say that I did. You know Ryan

1240
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 4: Kennedy is, I can't say that I do. He is

1241
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 4: the Lions fan. Oh okay, yes, all right, I know

1242
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 4: you're talking about that got in the altercation with DK Metcalf.

1243
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 4: He was on video saying, you know, that's that's what

1244
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,680
Speaker 4: I got what I wanted, essentially, like I got him

1245
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 4: to react that's why I was doing it. The thing

1246
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 4: he was doing was he was calling him to Kaelin,

1247
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,840
Speaker 4: which is what DK stands for. I guess he does

1248
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 4: not like his name. He does not like to be

1249
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 4: called by his name. So the guy this, you know,

1250
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 4: that wasn't the first time these two have had a

1251
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 4: little spat.

1252
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 2: I read that.

1253
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, yeah, last year he did the same thing,

1254
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 4: and I guess discovered that that's what got under his skin,

1255
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 4: so continued to do it. At the game last week,

1256
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 4: Metcalf responded, I guess came over. He didn't hit him,

1257
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 4: but he kind of snatched him, kind of grabbed him

1258
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 4: real good, roughed him up a little bit. Maybe he

1259
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 4: got suspended two games. Did you see that suspension can

1260
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 4: cost him forty three dollars. I did see that that

1261
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 4: I could avoid his guarantees for the next two years. Now,

1262
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 4: something tells me the Steelers will probably do right by

1263
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 4: him on that situation.

1264
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 2: You would think so, but I mean, you never know.

1265
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 2: But I have, Yeah, if you're.

1266
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 4: Employee, the opportunity to void forty three million dollars or

1267
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 4: your hard earned money.

1268
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 2: For sure.

1269
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 4: But just looking at the video now, obviously I don't

1270
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 4: have any audio. But I'm stunned that he doesn't have

1271
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 4: a neck brace on. I would have. I would have

1272
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 4: gone full neck brace. Yeah, that's you got to I

1273
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 4: would have gone full neck brace, but backwards hat at

1274
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 4: the uh you know, the the folding table. Yeah, with

1275
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 4: flanked by his by his lawyers. That would have gone

1276
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,719
Speaker 4: over so much better in Buffalo, right, like the folding table.

1277
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 4: Can you imagine he's making his statement and then all

1278
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 4: of a sudden somebody just jumps off or he makes

1279
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 4: the statement from like on top of a bus and

1280
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 4: then jumps off and elbows the table on fire as

1281
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 4: the table breaks. DK Metcalf has got to be smart,

1282
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 4: gotta be smarter than that man, Like you have to

1283
01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:01,560
Speaker 4: look like these a lot of times, these people, you know,

1284
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 4: it's like they think they buy a ticket, they can

1285
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 4: say whatever they want. But by all accounts here this

1286
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 4: dude just knew what to say. That wasn't derogatory, wasn't

1287
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 4: you know, personal? Well, I guess you know his name.

1288
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 2: He figured out his hot button, pushed it, and he

1289
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 2: pushed it.

1290
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 4: And you know, now, DK Metcalf may have cost himself

1291
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 4: forty five million dollars in the future because of it.

1292
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 4: You just got to be able to walk away from

1293
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 4: from something like that, and a teammate just to be like, yo, DK,

1294
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 4: like don't chill but just chill out, don't don't worry

1295
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 4: about that that fool in the front row, because I'm

1296
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 4: willing to bet DK Metcalf has heard worse things than

1297
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,600
Speaker 4: he heard from that guy. But for whatever reason, just

1298
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Speaker 4: being called his his name, and then you know, why

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Speaker 4: don't you just go legally.

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Speaker 2: Change your name to DK?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean I think they probably could still

1302
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Speaker 4: figure that out. Sure, but you can go that's not

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01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 4: my name, bro.

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Speaker 2: You can do it.

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01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 3: At least at least you've got some line of defense, right,

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01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 3: and that in that game, I mean, just come like,

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Speaker 3: I just don't know how. You don't know, Like when

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01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 3: you see this guy for the second time, shouldn't it

1309
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 3: set off in your brain like, Hey, you know he's

1310
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:22,679
Speaker 3: he's aiming for this, working for this, working to get

1311
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 3: you to do something stupid. Don't give him the satisfaction

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Speaker 3: of winning, right, It doesn't make any sense. But I mean,

1313
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 3: you get baited, you get baited, and he sure did,

1314
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 3: he sure did. I hope it doesn't end up costing

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Speaker 3: him forty three million dollars, but you know what, it

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01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 3: probably won't because he's been really good. And that's usually

1317
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 3: like where the where the line is drawn on this

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01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 3: right right Like if you're struggling, you just gave him

1319
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 3: a reason to bounce you. If you're if you're.

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Speaker 4: Playing well, you got a little bit more leeway, a

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01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 4: little bit, not a lot of it, a little bit

1322
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 4: more leeway in the way that things play out.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a break. When we come back, take a

1324
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 3: look at the Arizona Cardinals. Some of their numbers make

1325
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 3: you scratch your head on why they're so bad. More

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Speaker 3: after this, Since he three sixty Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 5: You've been listening to Football in the Natti on ESPN

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Speaker 5: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 4: Wckble welcome back since he thirty sixty closing out our

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01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 4: two Chad Brendle, Drew Wester Heidi and for the fellas.

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Speaker 3: That ice machine they got one of those nugget maker

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01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 3: ice machines out in the kitchener.

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Speaker 2: That gets me from time to.

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01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 3: Time because I you know, I'll chomp on ice a

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01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 3: little bit and then we come back from breaking My

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01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 3: mouth's kind of still frozen.

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Speaker 2: Ice.

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01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 3: It's very convenient. Oh, I think I'm gonna have to

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01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 3: get one. That's that's the best ice. Like that was

1340
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 3: the one positive thing of all those. Kelly was in

1341
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 3: the hospital for ninety nine days. It's just ninety nine

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01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 3: days of the best ice. And they had different ice.

1343
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 3: Like we spent a lot of time in the the

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01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 3: oncology floor. They didn't have great ice. But at ic

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01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 3: you ic you would bring you the good ice.

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01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 2: Yep.

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01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 4: Now the trade off was you were an ICU and

1348
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 4: that sucked. Yeah, but at least we can do, you know,

1349
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 4: give good people. And then I went back because I

1350
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 4: would always go back and like take the nurses lunch,

1351
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 4: even after Kelly passed, because they.

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01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 3: Have a horrible job. Horrible job. They do great at it,

1353
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 3: they do amazing things. But I would never I couldn't

1354
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 3: imagine like working on a cancer floor.

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01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what you do every day all day.

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01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 2: So I would.

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01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 3: And then I went back and they got the new

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01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 3: ice machine. They had the nugget ice. I was like, he'k,

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01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:18,680
Speaker 3: that's some do do.

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01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 2: Drew.

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01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 3: Let's talk a little Bengals Cardinals. When you look at

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01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 3: the Cardinals numbers, This does not look like a four

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01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 3: win team. Though Jacoby Brissett has been good. He's throwing

1364
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 3: for almost the hill surpassed I would assume three thousand

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01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 3: yards on the season on Sunday. They don't have a

1366
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 3: great rushing attack, but they do have the Bengals kryptonite,

1367
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 3: right They've got a an eleven hundred yard tight end

1368
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 3: and Trey McBride. They've got some guys that can make

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01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 3: plays on defense, Like they don't make a whole lot

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01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 3: of mistake, They're pretty fundamentally sound. But yet there they

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01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 3: sit with four wins. It's actually I think I don't

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01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 3: think you could take a whole lot away against quinn

1373
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 3: Ewers and a Dolphins team that just kind of doesn't

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01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 3: care right now. In terms of what we talked about

1375
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 3: at the beginning of the show, like how to judge,

1376
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 3: how to facilitate in your mind, how much this defense

1377
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 3: has improved. I don't think we'll see a whole lot

1378
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 3: in that front next week against the Browns, although they're

1379
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:34,600
Speaker 3: playing a little bit better offensively with Shador. But I

1380
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 3: think actually this is a decent test for this defense

1381
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 3: against a solid They're not a great offense by any stretch.

1382
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 3: But you've got a three thousand yard passer, you've got

1383
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 3: a thousand yard receiver, you've got a balanced running attack.

1384
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 3: There's no like main guy. But it's a fair enough

1385
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 3: test for this defense.

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01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 4: I think they've got capable pieces on the offensive side

1387
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 4: of the football, like Trey McBride is a joke of

1388
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 4: a matchup playing some of the best football at the

1389
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 4: tight end position this year. You know the receivers. Marvin

1390
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:09,559
Speaker 4: Harrison's been a little uneven. He's been battling some health issues.

1391
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 4: Wilson is that the other Michael Wilson I believe is

1392
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:17,639
Speaker 4: the other wide receiver's name. He he really blew up

1393
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 4: after Harrison got hurt and he started getting more more targets.

1394
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 4: But man, I'm looking at the Cardinals' schedule. This season

1395
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:29,640
Speaker 4: has been brutal, brutal, and in this early part of

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01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 4: the year they had some tough one score losses like

1397
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 4: they were not very They ended up being two and

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01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 4: five after a twenty three to twenty seven loss to

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01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 4: the Green Bay Packers on October nineteenth. They could have varied.

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01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 4: There are some games in here they go a different way.

1401
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 4: They could have been four and three, five and two

1402
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 4: and heading into their bye week feeling pretty good about themselves,

1403
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 4: and then they beat the Cowboys after their bye week.

1404
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 4: Then the losing streak begins and they have gotten flattened

1405
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 4: in some of these games games too.

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01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the the like, what's the crux of that?

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01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 3: I wonder what's at the heart of this team? Looking

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01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 3: pretty good and look, man, sometimes losing just does this

1409
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 3: to you.

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01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it does. And they've given up.

1411
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 4: You know, they've given up forty five to the Rams,

1412
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 4: forty four to the Seahawks, forty one to the Niners,

1413
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 4: forty to the Texans, who are not you know, what

1414
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 4: I would call an explosive offense by any means. So

1415
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 4: I think defensively they are gonna they're.

1416
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 3: Falling apart because they're defensive numbers overall aren't terrible on

1417
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 3: the season. But the more you dig in, the more

1418
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 3: you see, like the last couple of weeks they have

1419
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 3: been they've been pretty bad. And if you've been pretty bad,

1420
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 3: I don't know that Joe Burrow is that exactly who

1421
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 3: you want to see standing on the other side of

1422
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 3: the field.

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01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 4: I think what I'm getting at here is that I'm

1424
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 4: not sure what the over under is for this game.

1425
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 4: But I bet I think that might be uh, I

1426
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,080
Speaker 4: think that might be where we take it.

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01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, we will.

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01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 3: We'll get to all the NFL games, including Bengals Cardinals

1429
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 3: coming up here in our number three. But just in

1430
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 3: terms of this game, yeah, it feels like and look,

1431
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 3: if the Bengals defense, I do think this is the

1432
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 3: one game left, or if the Bengals defense again looks good,

1433
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:23,679
Speaker 3: you can say, Okay, maybe they are starting to turn

1434
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 3: the corner. Maybe they are. You know, Al Golden is

1435
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 3: figuring out what he's got. The defensive guys are figuring

1436
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 3: out this is what Al wants. Sometimes, you know, that

1437
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 3: can take a little bit. I know we all think like, well,

1438
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 3: he got here, and like, you know, he's been here

1439
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 3: since February, March whatever. He's had plenty of time to

1440
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 3: work with these guys. Why don't they have it fixed yet?

1441
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 3: The line isn't always linear. Sometimes it takes a little

1442
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 3: while to get from point A to point B. And

1443
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 3: we live in a society where, you know, they think

1444
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 3: you have a high speed light rail from point A

1445
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 3: to point B, and sometimes you're just on an Amtrak train.

1446
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 3: That's how you end up five and ten. But when

1447
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 3: we're looking at this as big picture towards next year.

1448
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 3: I do think, you know, depending what it is, I

1449
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 3: do think hopefully you can see this defense play well

1450
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 3: and it feels like it's translatable. It's something that you

1451
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 3: can project forward to twenty twenty six, because if not,

1452
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 3: then you have to do a whole lot of resetting.

1453
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 3: You got to do a whole lot of you know

1454
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,639
Speaker 3: we've talked about. You knew the Borough contract was coming,

1455
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 3: so you got to get young, and you spend all

1456
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 3: these young draft picks, first, second, third round picks over

1457
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 3: the past three even four drafts. You hate to say

1458
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 3: at any point in time that you know it's time

1459
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 3: to cut bait on some of them and try to

1460
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,639
Speaker 3: find somebody new, try to start over a little bit.

1461
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 3: But that's where this franchise is at. That's what these

1462
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 3: last two games can help to tell us. I personally,

1463
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 3: because I've been rooting for it all along, I hope

1464
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 3: they revert to where the worst defense in the history

1465
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 3: of the NFL, because I think if you're gonna have

1466
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 3: a season like this, Drew, do you need something to

1467
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 3: hang a banner about worst defense in NFL history? Slap

1468
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 3: that thing on the side of the building. It would

1469
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 3: at least be memorable. Yeah, be good or be interesting dre.

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01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 4: Correct wise, it's you know, it's not the Moeger Show.

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01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 2: But I still feel like, does Tony have wise words?

1472
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 4: Sometimes he thinks? He definitely thinks. So what's that word

1473
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 4: he says all the time? Is he an obviously guy?

1474
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 4: He's not an obviously guy?

1475
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 6: Is he?

1476
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 2: I think he says obviously quite a bit. Okay.

1477
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,760
Speaker 3: I know that the talkbackers make fun of him for

1478
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 3: some of that stuff. Talkbackers make fun of somebody, please.

1479
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 3: I mean they make fun of me all the time.

1480
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 3: And I'm almost never a part of this show that

1481
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 3: Tony and Austin were like, we're getting Kegan for our

1482
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 3: weekly UC segment.

1483
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 2: We're not.

1484
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,640
Speaker 3: Chad's been clowned too many times in the in the talkbacks.

1485
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 3: He's lost all credibility on since he three sixty. Let's

1486
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 3: take a break. Can we come back our number three.

1487
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 3: We'll talk some college football, We'll talk some college basketball.

1488
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 3: We'll get into the NFL games coming up Saturday and Sunday.

1489
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 3: And the phone lines are open, so if you want

1490
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,639
Speaker 3: to talk five on three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 3: we'll hear from you more after this sincey three sixty

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: Here we go Friday Football Frenzy Hour number three, taking

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Speaker 3: you into the Bengals pep Rally Show coming up from

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Speaker 3: three to six. Love that show always a good one.

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Speaker 2: Most got it nice, doesn't he? He sure does?

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01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 10: Man.

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01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 4: I was I was telling my family this at our

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01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:50,759
Speaker 4: family Christmas, about how Moe has figured this entire industry out.

1509
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 3: I mean, and then he'll take, like, you know, like

1510
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 3: the only time I'm really in during football season, mo

1511
01:23:57,160 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 3: popa Thursday, and then he's off already on Friday, and

1512
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,799
Speaker 3: then he has Saturday and Sunday. So just like a random,

1513
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 3: you know weekend in October. Mo's got a four day weekend, right,

1514
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 3: He's figured it out. And if he gets really frisky, though,

1515
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:14,719
Speaker 3: he can't because Tony and Football Show. He doesn't do Mondays.

1516
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 3: He can't take off Mondays because he's got that. But

1517
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 3: you know something, you wait for a bye week or something,

1518
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 3: you pop that Monday, you're off, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday,

1519
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 3: you take two vacation days. It's a good life for Moegar,

1520
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 3: pretty good. It's a good life, pretty good. You know,

1521
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 3: Tony and Austin, those guys got a grind. They gotta work.

1522
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 2: Except today, of course that was the I was being sarcastic.

1523
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 2: It's being a little sarcastic. Can I Can I tell

1524
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:48,799
Speaker 2: you a fact? A fact? Yes? I like facts.

1525
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 4: Today is the last day without college basketball until Monday,

1526
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 4: March sixteenth. Wow, seventy eight straight days of hoops starts tomorrow.

1527
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 2: It's my jam love that I'm ready for conference play. Yep. Yeah.

1528
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 4: Once once you get through Christmas and New Year's and

1529
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 4: it's the college basketball turns to conference play, that's when

1530
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:12,440
Speaker 4: that's when the real go getters like myself and you

1531
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 4: we get after it. Although I'm I'm not having as

1532
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 4: much fun. Well, I'm after Dayton's lost to Liberty.

1533
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:22,679
Speaker 2: Nor am I worst loss Liberty or Eastern Michigan.

1534
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 4: Eastern Michigan by a country, A long shot, A long shot.

1535
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 4: I was pretty impressed with Liberty, honestly, and how they played.

1536
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 3: I mean I was impressed with Eastern Michigan, but not

1537
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 3: really because of how I mean they took advantage of

1538
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 3: Cincinnati being bad bad. That's that's right up there with

1539
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 3: like they lost to Wafford one time early in mc

1540
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 3: cronin's career. They lost to a religion. They lost to

1541
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:54,400
Speaker 3: a toothpaste. I've seen some bad losses over the years.

1542
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 3: That Eastern Michigan won. It was ten to nine. Eastern

1543
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 3: Michigan went on like a seventeen to nothing run, eighteen

1544
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 3: to nothing run.

1545
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 2: I was at the.

1546
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 4: Cincinnati Cyclones game that night, because that was the night

1547
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 4: before Thanksgiving. I was at the Cyclones game and a

1548
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 4: buddy of mine who was a UC UC fan, he

1549
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 4: went to the hockey game instead of the basketball game.

1550
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 2: Smart guy.

1551
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 4: He just he made the comment to me, he goes man,

1552
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 4: Glad I didn't go to the bear Cat game tonight.

1553
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 4: I'm like, why he showed me his phone and it

1554
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 4: was Eastern Michigan up sixteen points or whatever it was.

1555
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 4: I was like, whoa, yeah, whoa. So we kind of

1556
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 4: kept tabs on that for the rest of the night. Yeah,

1557
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 4: that was there was a stretch there. I want to say,

1558
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 4: this was Ron Holmes's freshman year, Dayton lost to I

1559
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 4: think it was. Was it lipscumb maybe I know you

1560
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 4: maass I always solid. I know U Mass Lowell was

1561
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 4: one of them. That's good they I think they finished

1562
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 4: the year in the three hundreds of Ken Palm. Anytime

1563
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 4: you lose to a U Mass subsidy, right, it's a problem.

1564
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 4: So that they lost three consecutive by games heading in

1565
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:03,440
Speaker 4: to Orlando and then they beat Kansas.

1566
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 2: Dayton's good for that.

1567
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 4: They are they They just they find a way to

1568
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 4: torment me a year after year after year. I'm thinking

1569
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 4: unless they go sixteen and two in A ten play,

1570
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 4: they are probably gonna have to win the A ten

1571
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 4: tournament to make the dance. They haven't done that since

1572
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 4: two thousand and three when the tournament was at Dayton.

1573
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:28,679
Speaker 4: So let's just say I'm not really you know, putting

1574
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 4: that one in pen, that that's gonna happen.

1575
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:36,599
Speaker 3: Cincinnati would probably and this is if they beat Lipscomb Monday,

1576
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 3: Like that's not gonna be an easy game. Lipscomb had

1577
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 3: the lead on Duke in the first half to last week,

1578
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:47,600
Speaker 3: and then Dude kind of pulled away slowly in the

1579
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:51,959
Speaker 3: second half, and Houston comes to town, and then Houston

1580
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:55,599
Speaker 3: and then the Houston thing, like you kind of expect

1581
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 3: what's gonna happen there, right, But then they go to

1582
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:01,679
Speaker 3: West Virginia and two UC which if you'd have asked

1583
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 3: two months ago, like, all right, you might Houston might

1584
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 3: take care of you at home to open league play,

1585
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:11,880
Speaker 3: But then you got those two and then Colorado at home, Like, okay,

1586
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 3: you can bounce back, maybe start three and one in

1587
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 3: the Big Twelve if you're playing well. And it's frustrating

1588
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 3: because I like Wes.

1589
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:25,759
Speaker 4: I like Wes. I think Wes is a good guy.

1590
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 4: He's about the right things. He works hard, he recruits

1591
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 4: good kids, he cares about the program and the tradition

1592
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 4: and the history of the program. But for whatever reason,

1593
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:41,560
Speaker 4: he has not and this is year three in the

1594
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 4: Big Twelve, we're not seeing that progression we're not seeing

1595
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:48,680
Speaker 4: the arrow point up. And I've talked about this a

1596
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 4: lot on our content on Bearcat Journal. Drew, you're ten eleven, twelve,

1597
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 4: about to be thirteen games in with a new team.

1598
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 3: That's whatever. You know, they got a new team. Okay, Well,

1599
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:03,759
Speaker 3: then things might be a little rough at the beginning.

1600
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 3: Things might be a little bumpy. But as you get

1601
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 3: into double digits, as you're thirty thirty two, thirty five

1602
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:13,680
Speaker 3: percent into the season, you've got to show that that

1603
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 3: arrow's pointing upward.

1604
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 2: And they just haven't been able to do it.

1605
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they've been I just wanted a watchable like

1606
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 4: a UC team that I could put on whether I'm

1607
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 4: at work during the game or if I'm just at

1608
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 4: home and just want to watch some college basketball. I've

1609
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 4: really wanted to a UC team that I was looking

1610
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:35,680
Speaker 4: forward to turning on the TV to watch. And it

1611
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:39,760
Speaker 4: just doesn't feel like that's it. And you know, and

1612
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 4: I share a lot of the same similarities with you

1613
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:45,679
Speaker 4: when it comes to West Miller. I had the seems

1614
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 4: like a genuine dude, recruits well, says all the right

1615
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 4: things at times, and it just isn't translating to like

1616
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 4: translating to success for a program like Cincinnati who has

1617
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 4: not been to the two tournament in a long time

1618
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 4: and is very, very hungry to get back to that point.

1619
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 4: I think unless it really gets turned around, Big twelve

1620
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 4: play this year, you're probably looking at a coaching search

1621
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna predict that or Wes Miller will end

1622
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:16,680
Speaker 4: up at an Atlantic ten program and I'm gonna have

1623
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 4: to deal with him for the next five years.

1624
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:22,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, here's the here's the ultimate problem true

1625
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:27,840
Speaker 3: to get even on the bubble, right that they've dug

1626
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 3: such a hole. They didn't win any of the the

1627
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 3: marquee and they beat Dayton, which isn't gonna isn't gonna

1628
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 3: go dating is not propping up your No, maybe if

1629
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 3: you beat Dayton on the road and it counts as

1630
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:43,640
Speaker 3: a quad one, you can, like you lean into that

1631
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 3: a little bit. But they lost to Xavier, they lost

1632
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 3: to Louisville, they lost to Georgia, they lost to Clemson.

1633
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to win at least minimum twelve of

1634
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 3: your eighteen.

1635
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, Big Twelve. Even then you're probably probably still it

1636
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 4: depends on the winds. Like you, if you pop a couple,

1637
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 4: I mean, there's the top. Is this league stupid that

1638
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 4: there's opportunities to be had there, that's for sure.

1639
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 3: But they've combined for fourteen wins in the Big Twelve

1640
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 3: the last two years, So to think that they're gonna

1641
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:21,040
Speaker 3: go and get twelve probably requires a stop at your

1642
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 3: local dispensary.

1643
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 2: What's more likely them winning over twelve or less than five?

1644
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 2: Less than five? I agreed, I just wanted to throw

1645
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 2: that out there.

1646
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 3: I just don't. I don't see a world where twelve

1647
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 3: is attainable. Attainable, just doesn't know, especially when you got

1648
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:45,280
Speaker 3: Houston twice, you play Arizona, you play Texas Tech, you

1649
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 3: play BYU, you play Baylor, you play Iowa State Tech

1650
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:53,559
Speaker 3: and Arizona on the road, Yeah, Iowa State at Hull, Like,

1651
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 3: come on, let's be for real here, that's not going

1652
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 3: to be pretty. If you had to put money on

1653
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 3: one Southwest Ohio team, so Cincinnati, Xavier, Dayton or Miami

1654
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 3: to make the NCAA Tournament, what team would you pick?

1655
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:16,599
Speaker 3: It might have been Miami, But then Evan Obsorrow got

1656
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 3: hurt and is out for the year point guard. I

1657
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 3: don't know that trav has an answer for that.

1658
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:29,080
Speaker 4: I'll throw Northern Kentucky into that, into that grouping as well,

1659
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:31,400
Speaker 4: although they've kind of gotten out to a slow start.

1660
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:35,400
Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean, but for them it doesn't matter, right,

1661
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:39,839
Speaker 4: they played for three days in March, like they they understand,

1662
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:43,760
Speaker 4: they they get that that is their opportunity. So they're

1663
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 4: maybe a little more okay with slow starts than the

1664
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 4: others because the others have at large hopes every year, yep,

1665
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 4: for sure, Like does Xavier expect to win a big

1666
01:32:56,520 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 4: East with Yukon and Saint John's at the top, Well,

1667
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 4: they got Yukon coming to town next week New Year's

1668
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 4: Eve night, Yukon at the Centas Center.

1669
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:10,320
Speaker 2: Should I go see? My buddy might have to?

1670
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:14,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that was and that was part you know,

1671
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 4: you discussed how you know, UC hasn't won any of

1672
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 4: their you know, marquee games outside of beating Dayton. Uh,

1673
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 4: you know, Xavier they beat Cincinnati, but really outside of that,

1674
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:30,639
Speaker 4: you know, they they lost West Virginia. Yeah, they beat

1675
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:35,679
Speaker 4: West Virginia. That's probably their best win non Cincinnati. It's honestly,

1676
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 4: what do you think ends up being a better win

1677
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 4: West Virginia or Cincinnati? Probably probably West Virginia. I think

1678
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, it's going to be

1679
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 4: remarkably similar. And yeah, because the thing with Dayton is

1680
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 4: is that they won a couple of those games. They

1681
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:58,400
Speaker 4: beat Georgetown, they beat Marquette, beat Florida State. The problem

1682
01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 4: is is that those three teams are having like historically

1683
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:01,719
Speaker 4: bad seasons.

1684
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean West Virginia's sixty seven and keim pom

1685
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 3: Cincinnati seventy two.

1686
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, so they feel right about Yeah even give or

1687
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:09,719
Speaker 4: take a few spots.

1688
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 3: West Virginia's one hundred and fourteen spots better on offense

1689
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:15,799
Speaker 3: than Cincinnati and kem.

1690
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 2: Bom whats Cincinnati sitting out on defense? In Kem Palm

1691
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 2: I ten ten.

1692
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:20,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I knew that they were pretty propped up in

1693
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:27,320
Speaker 4: that category. Two twenty five on offense. Yeah, that that

1694
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 4: ain't gonna get it done.

1695
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 2: Woof.

1696
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:35,559
Speaker 3: And look, you have to give a ton of credit

1697
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:39,720
Speaker 3: to Richard Patina, oh, because they looked dead in the

1698
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:42,120
Speaker 3: water and there they're still not. I mean, they're at

1699
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:45,760
Speaker 3: one oh two in Kem Palm. They're they're behind Cincinnati,

1700
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 3: Are they behind Dayton? Dayton is at sixty five. Yeah,

1701
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:57,679
Speaker 3: So Dayton's significantly higher in Ken Palm than than Xavier

1702
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 3: is but Za he's got the West Virginia in. They've

1703
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:07,839
Speaker 3: got the Cincinnati win. Uh, they you know, Santa Clara's ninetieth.

1704
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:11,719
Speaker 3: That's not a bad loss. Ioa was one oh three.

1705
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 3: That's actually a little surprising that I was down that low.

1706
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 3: Those two aren't gonna help you. But the other losses

1707
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 3: to Georgia, to Creyton George's twenty five and kempom Creighton's

1708
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 3: forty four. And look, this isn't a great big East,

1709
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:29,679
Speaker 3: No it is not. It is a down big East.

1710
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:34,280
Speaker 3: So they've got Connecticut at home New Year's Eve, then

1711
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:37,760
Speaker 3: to Paul and Marquette away de Paul's one twenty one,

1712
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 3: Marquette's one fifteen. Savior's rated ahead of both of those,

1713
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 3: projected on kempom both to be losses, but one point

1714
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 3: against DePaul, two points against Marquette. Xavior can win either

1715
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:53,840
Speaker 3: of those games. Providence at home, Providence is not very good.

1716
01:35:54,320 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 3: Butler at home, Butler's okay. Creighton on the road. We

1717
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:03,639
Speaker 3: saw what happened last time those two teams.

1718
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:06,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, but sometimes when you get a weird outrier result

1719
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:07,840
Speaker 4: like that, I hear you.

1720
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:08,599
Speaker 6: Uh.

1721
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 3: Then Saint John's then Seaton Hall, both of them are

1722
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 3: playing well, but then to Paul again in Connecticut and

1723
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:21,760
Speaker 3: Saint John's. But there's enough games in there that if

1724
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:25,559
Speaker 3: they can be more consistent than they've been, they could

1725
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 3: be on the bubble. I don't think they make it,

1726
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:31,000
Speaker 3: but I don't think Dayton and Cincinnati even sniffed the bubble.

1727
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:35,879
Speaker 4: No, I'd, like I said, barring Dayton going like sixteen

1728
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:40,799
Speaker 4: and two in a ten play and those wins being

1729
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 4: there're Q one opportunities when they play VCU, Saint Louis

1730
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:48,240
Speaker 4: and others on the road. Yeah, yeah, outside of doing that,

1731
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 4: because you know, like the one thing Dayton doesn't have

1732
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 4: is a truly horrific loss, right, they don't have that,

1733
01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:03,400
Speaker 4: you know, they don't have that, you know, terrible stinker, yes,

1734
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:06,840
Speaker 4: land mine as I like to call them. But but

1735
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:08,679
Speaker 4: the thing is is that now you've got to navigate

1736
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:13,679
Speaker 4: the Atlantic ten where there's more more nights than not teams. Yeah,

1737
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 4: it's quality teams, but you know teams that you know,

1738
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:19,120
Speaker 4: because they don't get a Q one home game, they

1739
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 4: probably want to get a Q two home game. If

1740
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 4: we're being honest, you know, there are only good win

1741
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 4: opportunities they're going to have to do on the road,

1742
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:30,559
Speaker 4: which you know, I've seen some things I've liked with Dayton,

1743
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:33,559
Speaker 4: and then that Liberty game just kind of threw cold

1744
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 4: water all over the good feeling I had heading into it.

1745
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 2: But we'll see.

1746
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:41,000
Speaker 4: Like I said, that's I think that is going to

1747
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 4: be the requirement to even be in the conversation. I'm

1748
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:45,799
Speaker 4: not even saying they'd make it if they went sixteen

1749
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:48,160
Speaker 4: and two in the A ten, but I do think

1750
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 4: they would become in the conversation if that were the case.

1751
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 4: But ultimately, I think it's it's going to come down

1752
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 4: to whether they can win the A ten tournament, and

1753
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:56,960
Speaker 4: if they don't do that, I think there are some

1754
01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:59,200
Speaker 4: legitimate conversations that need to be had about the head

1755
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:00,240
Speaker 4: coaching position after this.

1756
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 3: Season, and if Cincinnati's looking here in a couple months,

1757
01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:09,559
Speaker 3: I might need a full Saint Louis Scout Josh Shirts

1758
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:10,840
Speaker 3: scouting report from you.

1759
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 2: Down the line.

1760
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 3: Saint Louis thirty nine and Ken Palm fifty three on offense,

1761
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:21,679
Speaker 3: thirty nine on defense, fourteenth in the country in tempo.

1762
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:25,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, they they were pretty solid and don con play

1763
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 4: last year too, and then they kind of stumbled all

1764
01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:28,840
Speaker 4: over themselves at the beginning of a ten.

1765
01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:31,160
Speaker 3: Year one for shirts and as I don't think he

1766
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:35,839
Speaker 3: fully had his crew together. Yep, I'm interested to see

1767
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 3: how they look in an A ten play this year.

1768
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1769
01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:42,000
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be a fun eight ten season.

1770
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:43,960
Speaker 4: I do think the A ten is pretty improved. They're

1771
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:45,880
Speaker 4: probably still only going to get one team in, which

1772
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:47,559
Speaker 4: is a far cry from what they used to be,

1773
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 4: but I do think it is a better a better

1774
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 4: league overall this year. Yeah, all right, let's let's take

1775
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 4: a break when we come back.

1776
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 2: You want to do college football next?

1777
01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 3: Or do you want to talk about this trend of

1778
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:08,160
Speaker 3: like guys that were drafted in the NBA and are

1779
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:09,320
Speaker 3: now coming back to college.

1780
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:12,040
Speaker 4: I don't think we have enough time to cover all

1781
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:13,559
Speaker 4: my thoughts and opinions on that.

1782
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:15,519
Speaker 2: Let's talk some college football.

1783
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:17,640
Speaker 4: Obviously, it's a big college football weekend coming up, so

1784
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:18,799
Speaker 4: let's talk some college football.

1785
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 2: We even talk college football at all today? All right,

1786
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:21,040
Speaker 2: let's do that.

1787
01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:23,880
Speaker 3: We'll come back more after this SINC thirty sixty right

1788
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:42,360
Speaker 3: here on Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. You said, Drew says

1789
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 3: sigtys ESPN fifteen thirty. This is sin C three sixties.

1790
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:47,599
Speaker 4: Are you surprised there's no college football games today?

1791
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:49,719
Speaker 2: Well, there's three.

1792
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:54,480
Speaker 4: We have one going on right now, Central Michigan Northwestern

1793
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 4: happening on ESPN at the moment.

1794
01:39:56,600 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 2: Really, why is this not? Oh?

1795
01:40:02,040 --> 01:40:04,439
Speaker 3: Never mind they put today at the top and then

1796
01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 3: you had to scroll down a ton to get to tomorrow.

1797
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:12,639
Speaker 2: Just put them next to each other. Agreed, I'm sorry.

1798
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:16,719
Speaker 3: Northwestern twenty one nothing over Central Michigan, New Mexico, Minnesota tonight.

1799
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:23,200
Speaker 3: Florida International and UTSA also tonight. You like any of

1800
01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:27,120
Speaker 3: these from a gambling perspective.

1801
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:30,760
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure I could find something I like here. Well,

1802
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:33,720
Speaker 2: probably might. Maybe it might be some value on New

1803
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 2: Mexico against Minnesota. You're not a row the boat guy,

1804
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:38,719
Speaker 2: a slight dog.

1805
01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:42,719
Speaker 4: Although I do think the Big Ten has been cleaning

1806
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:46,479
Speaker 4: up in bowl season, if I am not mistaken. It's

1807
01:40:46,680 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 4: so random, like every year it's like, I'll look, the

1808
01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 4: ACC had a big bowl season, like the ACC's donc

1809
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:55,400
Speaker 4: and dude, you don't. And you don't even know who's

1810
01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:58,080
Speaker 4: playing in these games anymore. Like with all with the

1811
01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:00,920
Speaker 4: transfer portal and all that, it'll be interesting to see

1812
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:02,639
Speaker 4: big slate of games tomorrow.

1813
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 2: Tomorrow.

1814
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll run through them. You tell me if anything

1815
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:10,640
Speaker 3: jumps out. Pitt East Carolina eleven AM ESPN pit a

1816
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:13,240
Speaker 3: ten and a half point favorite, total of fifty two

1817
01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 3: and a half.

1818
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:14,599
Speaker 2: You like any of those?

1819
01:41:16,439 --> 01:41:20,000
Speaker 4: I Pitt probably feels like they've got some guys playing,

1820
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 4: feel like they were kind of an uneven team this year.

1821
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:25,599
Speaker 2: But it's not a bad way to kick off the day.

1822
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:29,400
Speaker 4: But the next game is the one, the Disappointing Season Bowl,

1823
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:32,200
Speaker 4: or also known as the bad Boy moe ER's Pinstripe

1824
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:36,960
Speaker 4: Bull Penn State versus Clemson in a game where with

1825
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:41,519
Speaker 4: two programs whose seasons didn't not meet the expectation of

1826
01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:43,160
Speaker 4: where they thought they were going to not at all.

1827
01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:45,000
Speaker 3: Clem's in a two and a half point favorite. The

1828
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:48,800
Speaker 3: total forty eight and a half. For whatever reason, Like

1829
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:51,840
Speaker 3: these are two pretty good defenses. But I think I

1830
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 3: have a feeling things get a little sloppy here. I

1831
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 3: like an underplay there. Forty eight and a half. It's

1832
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:01,320
Speaker 3: going to be thirty two degree, some looks like some

1833
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:05,200
Speaker 3: lights snow in the forecast. Forty eight and a half

1834
01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 3: seems a little high.

1835
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:09,920
Speaker 4: Agreed, I think if I was making a play there

1836
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:12,800
Speaker 4: a leen, we'll call that a lean, A lean, We'll

1837
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:15,639
Speaker 4: go the under forty eight and a half year. Obviously,

1838
01:42:16,120 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 4: the biggest non CFP bowl is tomorrow the Pop Tart

1839
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:23,160
Speaker 4: Bowl between BYU and Georgia Tech.

1840
01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:26,800
Speaker 3: I'll never forgive Scott Sidderfield for not getting to like

1841
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 3: eight or nine wins so Cincinnati could have gone to

1842
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:29,720
Speaker 3: the Pop Tart Bowl.

1843
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:31,799
Speaker 2: It's all I wanted. It is awesome.

1844
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:34,320
Speaker 4: It truly is like it's a bummer that Notre Dame

1845
01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:36,360
Speaker 4: took their ball and went home and didn't play in

1846
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:38,439
Speaker 4: that game, because I think Notre Dame BYU would have

1847
01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:42,120
Speaker 4: been an awesome three point thirty in the afternoon game

1848
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:46,080
Speaker 4: b YU minus four over under fifty five and a half.

1849
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:50,080
Speaker 4: I like BYU there I it feels like they've just

1850
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:53,120
Speaker 4: they're playing everybody that kept their coach. Feels like they're

1851
01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 4: gonna have a lot of the same guys back next year.

1852
01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 4: Give me give me BYU there on the number of

1853
01:42:59,240 --> 01:42:59,680
Speaker 4: minus four.

1854
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:03,960
Speaker 3: What about the RedHawks Miami and Fresno State. Fresno State

1855
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:07,280
Speaker 3: a five and a half point favorite total forty one

1856
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 3: and a half.

1857
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:11,840
Speaker 2: I would probably lean towards Fresno State. Here, Kurt Warner's kid.

1858
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:14,280
Speaker 2: That's Kurt Warner's kid, right, I believe so, EJ.

1859
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:14,759
Speaker 6: Warner.

1860
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 2: I believe so.

1861
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:18,680
Speaker 4: But I do want to give Miami, Ohio a lot

1862
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:20,920
Speaker 4: of credit this season for the year that they had.

1863
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 4: They lose their quarterback midway through their season. The quarterback quit, yeah,

1864
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:31,800
Speaker 4: essentially quit, and they still had a pretty solid end

1865
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:32,680
Speaker 4: to the year, and.

1866
01:43:34,640 --> 01:43:35,960
Speaker 2: So I just want to give Miami credit.

1867
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 4: Although I think if I'm leaning somewhere, I'm leaning towards

1868
01:43:38,439 --> 01:43:43,639
Speaker 4: Presno State, Uh what else? Anything looks super interesting LSU

1869
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:48,160
Speaker 4: Houston Houston a one and a half point favorite LSU.

1870
01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:52,040
Speaker 2: Lord knows who's play in that game.

1871
01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't imagine they've got I mean, that's got

1872
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:55,679
Speaker 3: to be why Houston is favorite.

1873
01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:55,880
Speaker 8: Here.

1874
01:43:57,439 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 3: Connor Wegman, the quarterback for Houston, has had a good season.

1875
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:05,479
Speaker 3: Houston's defense has been solid. They're predicting a low scoring game.

1876
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:12,760
Speaker 3: It'll be indoors in Houston and RG Stadium. Houston's going

1877
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:15,040
Speaker 3: to be able to get all seventy three of their

1878
01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:17,479
Speaker 3: fans comfortably into that game.

1879
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:20,160
Speaker 4: I kind of like the over here forty two and

1880
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 4: a half I do too. I think there's some value there.

1881
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:24,519
Speaker 4: I think there's some value there in the over. Like

1882
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:26,800
Speaker 4: you said, in a dome, don't have to worry about

1883
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:30,040
Speaker 4: any bad weather. Yeah, I think I do like the

1884
01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:33,639
Speaker 4: over for that one. So no college football playoff this weekend.

1885
01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:35,760
Speaker 4: Obviously that picks back up on New Year's Eve, but

1886
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:38,120
Speaker 4: still some good college football to watch.

1887
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:40,880
Speaker 2: If you're looking for something to watch this weekend, let's

1888
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:41,360
Speaker 2: take a break.

1889
01:44:41,439 --> 01:44:45,559
Speaker 3: We'll hit the NFL this weekend. Coming up next Sincy

1890
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:48,479
Speaker 3: three to sixty. Right here in Sinceinny's ESPN fifteen thirty.

1891
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:52,880
Speaker 5: From the Court to the Cage, the Diamond to the Dome,

1892
01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:57,439
Speaker 5: he brings the heat. Moegar Today at three pm on

1893
01:44:57,920 --> 01:44:59,560
Speaker 5: ESPN fifteen.

1894
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:02,400
Speaker 2: Thirty, Dan Hoard for exercise and leisure.

1895
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:06,560
Speaker 5: This is Football and the Nattie, brought to you in

1896
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:11,839
Speaker 5: part by Postman Law and by Skyline Chile on ESPN

1897
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:13,400
Speaker 5: fifteen point thirty, the.

1898
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 2: Official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. Oh We're back, We

1899
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:39,360
Speaker 2: are back. I was messing with John John. It's one

1900
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:40,200
Speaker 2: of my favorite things.

1901
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:46,040
Speaker 3: Let's keep it rolling as we take a look at

1902
01:45:46,160 --> 01:45:50,679
Speaker 3: what's to come this weekend. Three NFL games in the books,

1903
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:56,479
Speaker 3: some important ones. Those weren't very important other than what

1904
01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:58,799
Speaker 3: the Lions got eliminated from the playoffs.

1905
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 2: Yes, the Lions five chance to make the playoffs one

1906
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:02,960
Speaker 2: from five to zero.

1907
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:09,040
Speaker 3: So not a whole lot exciting yesterday other than potentially,

1908
01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 3: like we said at the beginning of the show, potentially

1909
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:14,000
Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey's last game in Arrowhood.

1910
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 2: I think it will be. I think I agree with that.

1911
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:21,720
Speaker 2: I'm those two.

1912
01:46:22,120 --> 01:46:27,040
Speaker 3: I mean I started covering UC in six, which I

1913
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:29,800
Speaker 3: think is right when Jason got there or that off

1914
01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:34,280
Speaker 3: that coming that off season. So like I've been doing

1915
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:38,280
Speaker 3: this for nineteen years, I've been covering U see, one

1916
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:43,200
Speaker 3: of those two has been playing football either at UC

1917
01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:45,759
Speaker 3: or in the NFL ever since.

1918
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:51,240
Speaker 2: That's wild. Yep, it's wild. A couple of Hall of famers.

1919
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:55,719
Speaker 3: I mean, nobody in their right mind would ever guess

1920
01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:58,600
Speaker 3: that and not like, look, this is not just a

1921
01:46:58,640 --> 01:47:01,720
Speaker 3: couple of Hall of famers first ballot, bona fide. You're

1922
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:06,120
Speaker 3: talking top three center of all time, top three tight.

1923
01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:06,680
Speaker 2: End of all time.

1924
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:06,920
Speaker 6: Yep.

1925
01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:13,040
Speaker 4: Indeed, insane, pretty remarkable, insane for those two knuckleheads.

1926
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:17,600
Speaker 3: They are knuckleheads. I love them both to death, their knuckleheads,

1927
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 3: their knuckleheads. That they got it figured out. Brother They're

1928
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 3: gonna make a lot of money not playing football, So

1929
01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:27,360
Speaker 3: kudos to them. If that is the end for Travis

1930
01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:34,479
Speaker 3: Tomorrow Saturday, four point thirty Texans Chargers. Chargers are one

1931
01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:37,479
Speaker 3: and a half point favorite. Thirty nine and a half

1932
01:47:37,680 --> 01:47:43,120
Speaker 3: is the total. I kind of like the Texans here,

1933
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:45,920
Speaker 3: Like I just I still don't I know Justin Herbert's

1934
01:47:45,960 --> 01:47:50,680
Speaker 3: really good. I don't trust him. Yeah, I don't have

1935
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:52,720
Speaker 3: a whole lot of trust in the Chargers either. The

1936
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:56,519
Speaker 3: Texans have been rolling lately, and I like Jim Harbaugh

1937
01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:58,920
Speaker 3: as a coach. I think he's a crazy person, yeah,

1938
01:47:59,160 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 3: but he can really really coach man. But the Texans

1939
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:05,400
Speaker 3: are just their defense is awesome.

1940
01:48:05,680 --> 01:48:10,519
Speaker 4: Yep, awesome. I think I'm gonna go Texans there. I'll

1941
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:13,840
Speaker 4: take the I'll take the points. Yeah, I think I

1942
01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:15,920
Speaker 4: agree with that. I think I would. I think I

1943
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:18,280
Speaker 4: would take the Texans there plus one and a half.

1944
01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:22,080
Speaker 4: It's late, I mean, yeah, it's in San Diego, but

1945
01:48:22,479 --> 01:48:23,519
Speaker 4: the weather's gonna be great.

1946
01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:24,559
Speaker 2: God San Diego.

1947
01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:31,160
Speaker 3: But I just have a feeling. Ravens Packers, Mar Jackson doubtful.

1948
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:38,360
Speaker 3: Green Bay four and a half point favorite. I just

1949
01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:41,600
Speaker 3: there's such a wind out of the Sails feel to

1950
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:43,440
Speaker 3: the Packers without.

1951
01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:48,360
Speaker 4: Uh, you mean the Ravens without Lamar. No, the Packers

1952
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:55,600
Speaker 4: without damn it. Michael Parson. Yes, in terms of at

1953
01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:59,200
Speaker 4: least like like a legitimate, legitimate winning the Super Bowl. Yes,

1954
01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:02,519
Speaker 4: I guess I'll go Packers here, just because the Ravens

1955
01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:03,880
Speaker 4: probably aren't gonna have Lamar.

1956
01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 2: I don't feel great about it. Yeah, thirty four and

1957
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:09,599
Speaker 2: cloudy and in Green Bay.

1958
01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:14,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just home team. No Lamar, give me the Packers.

1959
01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:18,519
Speaker 4: We're gonna have to probably pick this up. Well, there's

1960
01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:19,840
Speaker 4: a lot of games we don't have to spend a

1961
01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:22,160
Speaker 4: lot of time on. When we get the Sunday Bengal

1962
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:25,719
Speaker 4: Worred Sunday Bengals Cardinals Bengals seven and a half point

1963
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:30,479
Speaker 4: favorite total fifty three and a half over, I think over,

1964
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:31,439
Speaker 4: but I think it's close.

1965
01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:34,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a pretty big number there.

1966
01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:37,080
Speaker 3: That's a I don't trust this team to beat anybody

1967
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:39,120
Speaker 3: by seven and a half that at that's a lot

1968
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:39,840
Speaker 3: of points there.

1969
01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:43,240
Speaker 4: I think I would lean towards taking the points of Arizona.

1970
01:49:43,320 --> 01:49:44,920
Speaker 4: But if I was making a play in this game,

1971
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:46,719
Speaker 4: give me the over. Fifty three and a half Steelers

1972
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:50,360
Speaker 4: Browns bit Miles Garrett, one sack away from setting the

1973
01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:52,439
Speaker 4: all time record would be very funny if he sacked

1974
01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers, who he has not sacked before, to do

1975
01:49:55,439 --> 01:49:59,519
Speaker 4: it against t J. Watt and the Pittsburgh Steelers. We'll

1976
01:49:59,520 --> 01:50:02,639
Speaker 4: see if that happens. Browns just keep on chugging along

1977
01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:05,400
Speaker 4: towards a top two pick and lose. I think they

1978
01:50:05,479 --> 01:50:07,200
Speaker 4: make it interesting. I think they win.

1979
01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 2: Well.

1980
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:12,360
Speaker 3: I guess it wouldn't matter if the Raven's lost. If

1981
01:50:12,439 --> 01:50:17,240
Speaker 3: the Ravens win Saturday, I'd love to see the Steelers

1982
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 3: lose to at least make it.

1983
01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:23,920
Speaker 2: Interesting mean something. I don't see it happen. I don't either.

1984
01:50:24,040 --> 01:50:27,320
Speaker 4: Harold Fannon questionable for Cleveland too. So that's that's good

1985
01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:29,840
Speaker 4: a game. We don't have to spend any time on

1986
01:50:30,040 --> 01:50:33,120
Speaker 4: Saints Titans. That's enough on that one.

1987
01:50:34,280 --> 01:50:38,679
Speaker 3: Jaguars Colts Jacksonville five and a half point favorite.

1988
01:50:40,520 --> 01:50:43,479
Speaker 4: Give me, give me the Jaguars. Indianapolis is a sinking ship.

1989
01:50:43,640 --> 01:50:46,559
Speaker 4: The Philip River story was fun, but that's a sinking ship.

1990
01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 6: There.

1991
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:54,360
Speaker 3: You know what's not sinking in Indianapolis Alec Pierce's bank account.

1992
01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:57,160
Speaker 3: There you go, because Aleck is going to get paid

1993
01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 3: this offseason Dolphins Tampa Bay five and a half point favorites.

1994
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:05,640
Speaker 3: I thought that would be bigger, Honestly.

1995
01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:07,880
Speaker 2: I did too. And there's something about that number that I.

1996
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:08,479
Speaker 6: Do not like.

1997
01:51:09,400 --> 01:51:12,320
Speaker 2: You feel like they know something we don't like. Well,

1998
01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 2: the Bucks have been struggling Baker.

1999
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:17,640
Speaker 4: That shoulder injury Baker got against the Rams on his

2000
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:19,799
Speaker 4: non throwing shoulder, similar to what he had in Cleveland.

2001
01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:22,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, in twenty twenty one. He hasn't been the same since.

2002
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:25,599
Speaker 4: If I was leaning anywhere in this game, probably would

2003
01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:27,240
Speaker 4: take the Tampa Bay minus five and a half.

2004
01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:29,280
Speaker 2: But that is a That line stinks.

2005
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:32,600
Speaker 3: Do you see this Jets controversy that's been going on

2006
01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:36,840
Speaker 3: with their Uh they were gonna have a like a

2007
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:39,639
Speaker 3: lady come out and kick a field goal at half time? Yes,

2008
01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:42,760
Speaker 3: I see this for one hundred thousand dollars. Her dad

2009
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:45,719
Speaker 3: had been sick. Here has been sick. Then the Jets

2010
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:51,320
Speaker 3: canceled it and it got went viral. Pat McAfee tweeted

2011
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:53,160
Speaker 3: it with the I emoji's like I'll let you come

2012
01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:55,559
Speaker 3: kick for one hundred thousand dollars. And then a little

2013
01:51:55,600 --> 01:51:57,840
Speaker 3: bit ago, like an hour ago, the Jets reverse course

2014
01:51:57,880 --> 01:51:59,439
Speaker 3: and now she is going to kick at home.

2015
01:51:59,600 --> 01:51:59,880
Speaker 2: Smart.

2016
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:03,640
Speaker 3: If there's one franchise in the NFL that just you

2017
01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:05,640
Speaker 3: look at and you go, they don't get it on

2018
01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:08,639
Speaker 3: the level of the Cincinnati Bengals, it's the New York Jets.

2019
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:11,799
Speaker 3: Correct thirteen and a half for New England.

2020
01:52:12,120 --> 01:52:12,760
Speaker 2: They cover.

2021
01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:16,559
Speaker 4: The Jets are dreadful. Yeah, yep, give me the points

2022
01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:19,040
Speaker 4: with I'll lay the points with New England.

2023
01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:22,680
Speaker 2: There Seattle a seven point favorite over Carolina.

2024
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:27,000
Speaker 4: I'll take I'll give me Carolina getting seven at home, Okay,

2025
01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:30,240
Speaker 4: I'll take the give me Carolina. They need they need

2026
01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:32,360
Speaker 4: to win this game to keep pace with Tampa Bay.

2027
01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:35,240
Speaker 4: I think Tampa Bay ends up beating Miami, so I'll

2028
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:37,120
Speaker 4: take thee I'll take the seven with Carolina.

2029
01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:40,800
Speaker 2: Here, the Seahawks are right in there for home field advantage, right,

2030
01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:41,519
Speaker 2: I believe.

2031
01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 4: So let's see here. They are currently the number one

2032
01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:48,120
Speaker 4: seed in the NFC, so they got something to play for.

2033
01:52:48,439 --> 01:52:51,040
Speaker 4: They do, but so do the Panthers. And I think

2034
01:52:51,080 --> 01:52:53,320
Speaker 4: the Panthers have been tough at home this year. Obviously,

2035
01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:55,880
Speaker 4: They've been kind of uneven. They've lost to the Saints,

2036
01:52:56,280 --> 01:52:58,400
Speaker 4: beat the Bucks, They've beaten some good teams. I just

2037
01:52:58,479 --> 01:53:00,559
Speaker 4: think seven I just think that's seven point a little

2038
01:53:00,560 --> 01:53:00,880
Speaker 4: too much.

2039
01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:03,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Kobe Bryant Seattle. You know, I'm a

2040
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 3: big I'm a big Seahawks guy, so I give me.

2041
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:10,240
Speaker 3: I think the Seahawks win, but you're the points. I

2042
01:53:10,280 --> 01:53:13,240
Speaker 3: feel like it's gonna be closer than that. Giants Raiders

2043
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:17,080
Speaker 3: the prison inmate game of the week. Who gets the

2044
01:53:17,200 --> 01:53:19,640
Speaker 3: number one pick? I'm gonna say the Raiders get the

2045
01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:21,920
Speaker 3: number one pick. I'm gonna say the Giants win this game.

2046
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:22,519
Speaker 2: Okay.

2047
01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:28,040
Speaker 3: Eagles Bills a super interesting, really good one here, Buffalo

2048
01:53:28,160 --> 01:53:30,120
Speaker 3: one and a half point favorite at home.

2049
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:33,800
Speaker 2: Are we calling for snow showers in Buffalo? Is that

2050
01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:35,240
Speaker 2: what I'm saying? Or is it rain?

2051
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:39,720
Speaker 4: I hope it's snow. Snow would be cool. Bills need

2052
01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:42,200
Speaker 4: this one to keep pace with the New England Patriots.

2053
01:53:42,280 --> 01:53:46,639
Speaker 4: So obviously the Pats they play the Jets, so they're

2054
01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:48,680
Speaker 4: probably gonna get to thirteen wins. So the Bills are

2055
01:53:48,760 --> 01:53:52,280
Speaker 4: gonna need need this game if they want to win

2056
01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:53,880
Speaker 4: the division and have a home playoff game.

2057
01:53:53,960 --> 01:53:56,120
Speaker 2: It looks like we're talking a lot of cold rain

2058
01:53:57,960 --> 01:54:00,080
Speaker 2: for that one. I feel like that feel like that

2059
01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:02,519
Speaker 2: kind of benefits the Eagles, which.

2060
01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:05,360
Speaker 3: Should, but they haven't really exactly gotten Saquon Barkley that

2061
01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:08,160
Speaker 3: James Cook has had a much better year than Barkley.

2062
01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:09,200
Speaker 2: Yes, for sure.

2063
01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:14,720
Speaker 3: Bears Niners. Good game, good game. The Bears continue to

2064
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:16,839
Speaker 3: surprise people. It doesn't feel like they should be anywhere

2065
01:54:16,840 --> 01:54:19,719
Speaker 3: close to eleven and four, but they are. Caleb Williams

2066
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:22,760
Speaker 3: with thirty four hundred yards, twenty three touchdowns, six interceptions.

2067
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:26,640
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson's a mastermind the Niners. If they win the

2068
01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:29,400
Speaker 3: next two weeks, they get home field advantage with the

2069
01:54:29,479 --> 01:54:31,799
Speaker 3: Super Bowl in Santa Clara.

2070
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:36,760
Speaker 2: Give me the Niners here. I just I don't believe

2071
01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:37,360
Speaker 2: in the Bears.

2072
01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:41,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you there. It's a smaller number than

2073
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:42,840
Speaker 4: I would have thought. I think I would lay the

2074
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:45,600
Speaker 4: three with San Francisco here against the Bears. But man,

2075
01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:48,360
Speaker 4: the Bears have been They've been a fun team to

2076
01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:51,000
Speaker 4: watch this year. They've been one of my favorite non

2077
01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:54,240
Speaker 4: you know, when I'm just watching the NFL, I've watched

2078
01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:57,120
Speaker 4: a lot of the Chicago Bears this season. Ben Johnson's awesome.

2079
01:54:58,120 --> 01:55:00,240
Speaker 4: I think they're building the team the right way, so

2080
01:55:00,680 --> 01:55:02,560
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if the Bears won this game.

2081
01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:05,600
Speaker 3: But I think I'm picking San Francisco. All right, that

2082
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:08,120
Speaker 3: does it for We're gonna get Rams Falcons. Sorry, one

2083
01:55:08,160 --> 01:55:10,840
Speaker 3: more Rams Falcons. Monday night, Rams seven and a half

2084
01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:18,200
Speaker 3: points improved their draft position by beating Atlanta. Oh boy,

2085
01:55:18,440 --> 01:55:22,160
Speaker 3: all right, let's take our final break more after this.

2086
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Speaker 5: Now it's time for quick.

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01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:48,120
Speaker 2: Hits on Tony Tykes since the three sixty. All right,

2092
01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:52,280
Speaker 2: thanks to everybody for tuning in. It's gonna wrap it up.

2093
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Speaker 2: Drew, great job today, do you as well? Chad? Fun

2096
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Speaker 2: to do the radio program with you.

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Speaker 3: I agree. If it can't be tarn, I want it

2098
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Speaker 3: to be Drew. I don't much appreciate it. Don't tell

2099
01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:08,040
Speaker 3: Sean McMahon.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's listening today. I think we'll be

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Speaker 4: all right. All right, good wow, that's gonna do it.

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