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Speaker 1: They've ruined every Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Look at baseball this year, who's going in Carlos Beltrant

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Speaker 2: and Andrew Jones. It's the Hall of very good period.

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Speaker 2: When you put them guys in a couple of stat collectors,

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Speaker 2: who's gonna go to Cooper's Town for their memorable induction

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Speaker 2: besides their friends and family? And my answer is only

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Speaker 2: total baseball junkies and Pete Rose would have just to

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Speaker 2: sell autographs.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: People are going crazy, They're insane. Frimpung's up. Okay, why

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Speaker 2: are you blindfolding yourself? He's pulling his headband over his eyes.

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Speaker 1: What he's doing?

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Speaker 2: He's going off? He's off, Oh crap, Oh they put

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Speaker 2: oh my goudd he's they put. I mean, I like endo,

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Speaker 2: but frim punk hurt too much anyway, I digress. People

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Speaker 2: are just insane that the voters who included Belichick.

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Speaker 1: Should be outed.

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Speaker 2: They're using the phrase out like ice is gonna drop

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Speaker 2: by illegal immigrants didn't vote for Belichick.

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Speaker 1: Same thing, get in the truck.

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Speaker 2: Then again, Corrupting elections is a trend here in America.

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Speaker 2: The number to call, and you should call. We have

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Speaker 2: so many freaking injuries. That doesn't excuse us or being

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Speaker 2: fourth in the table, but so many sixth in the table.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, this show's just.

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Speaker 2: Gone off the rails because Frimponga hurt Liverpool, Neil Caira

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Speaker 2: Bagnil in the fifth minute, and Annfield, Jeff Saturday. I

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Speaker 2: love watching Jeff Saturday on Get Up because he makes

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Speaker 2: everything about himself. You know, Belichick doesn't make the Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame win the first balloting.

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Speaker 1: Well, wait here are they gonna score?

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Speaker 2: I hope if we score wet the courses on this time,

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Speaker 2: he at least plays along if his TV feeds behind Jeff.

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Speaker 2: Like I competed against Belichick, we had some wars out there.

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Speaker 2: First off, Belichick wasn't out there, and you're only the center.

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Speaker 2: Shut the frig up. The whole sports media business would

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Speaker 2: be great if more people shut the frig up, including

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Speaker 2: probably me.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, that number again eight three to three or one

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Speaker 2: They're talking NonStop about McCarthy and whoever's coordinators are going

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Speaker 2: to be down the dial like Tom and I were

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Speaker 2: talking about, I'm thinking higher all local guys, all local guys, everybody,

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Speaker 2: whether it's vent trone, they're talking to him. Luke Getzi

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Speaker 2: that McAdoo guy, bring back Larry Foot, bring pas Senior

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Speaker 2: back x Steelers ex whipil guys Hire totally locally, because

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Speaker 2: as soon as Art said, my grandfather would be happy

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Speaker 2: to have hired somebody from Greenfield. But that's all why

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Speaker 2: we hired him. That tells me it was a big

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Speaker 2: reason why him. So I say, go all the way.

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Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy said, to start that Super Bowl paraded in Greenfield.

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Speaker 1: Let's make a whole bunch of stops all over the place.

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Speaker 2: And you know, maybe I get people telling me more

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Speaker 2: than ever now that I'm hyper critical about the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I am hypercritical about the Steelers. You will be

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Speaker 2: too if the beloved Greenfield guy who came home starts

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Speaker 2: off oher to three. But it would be nice just

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Speaker 2: just tear me out here, because I do know what

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: Everything I say comes true.

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Speaker 2: You know that by now you ignore it, but you

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Speaker 2: know it. It'd be nice if they did one thing,

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Speaker 2: one thing that made sense to me. I mean, the

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Speaker 2: Watch contract a disaster. I told you, I said, Tom,

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Speaker 2: which should be out nine months ago. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 2: sorry five years ago. The whole organization is badly outdated,

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Speaker 2: run the ball, emphasize defense, rock fights, one score games,

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Speaker 2: keep coaches forever, never rebuild. And now you got this

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Speaker 2: higher the local guy. And I do give McCarthy credit.

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Speaker 2: He's a great offensive mind. He's gonna use wide receivers,

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Speaker 2: and that means they better go get wide receivers. I

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Speaker 2: mean a lot of wide receivers. They need two or

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Speaker 2: three wide receivers. They need Roma Wilson to not be

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Speaker 2: on the field, but to be their fifth guy, even

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Speaker 2: though he definitely should have been on the field this year.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, mbs Adam Thielen, nice knowing, y sayonara, fat.

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Speaker 1: Kid, you get to sit on the bench. It's smooth time.

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Speaker 2: It's Pat Fryernmouth time again, because that's how Mike McCarthy's

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Speaker 2: gonna see it and how Tomlin should have seen it.

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Speaker 2: But then again, if Aaron Rodgers comes back, that might

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Speaker 2: not be the way he sees it. So like I

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Speaker 2: keep saying, good coach, bad higher, But the bottom line is, please,

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Speaker 2: for heck's sake, do one thing that makes sense to me,

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Speaker 2: and then I'll still be hypercritical, but you'll have to

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Speaker 2: live with it just like you do. Now I want

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Speaker 2: your reaction to Bill Belichick not getting in the Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame on the first ballot.

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Speaker 1: How did that league out?

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Speaker 2: But we don't know who is going to make the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, And people were making excuses like, well,

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Speaker 2: there might have been X amount of voters who said

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Speaker 2: he's going to get in. Anyway, I want to vote

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Speaker 2: for somebody else. Yeah, I don't buy that. I think

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Speaker 2: Bill Belichick didn't get the required amount of votes, which

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Speaker 2: is what thirty out of forty because people think he's

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Speaker 2: a dink and he cheated, And you know what, that's

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Speaker 2: a better reason all the mush mopped excuse making people

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Speaker 2: keeping him out for the cheating.

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad it happened. I think it's hilarious. Does it

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Speaker 2: make the Hall of Fame a joke? It's probably a

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Speaker 2: joke anyway. Every Hall of Fame became a joke a

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Speaker 2: long long time ago through exclusion of people who should

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Speaker 2: be in there, an inclusion of people who are just

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Speaker 2: deserving of the Hall of very good.

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Speaker 1: And I'm right about this, this is no big deal.

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Speaker 2: If you look at the Hall of Fame, every Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame, what they've become in context, then this is

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Speaker 2: just no big deal and funny, so I fully endorse it.

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Speaker 2: If they would call me up and say, Okay, we're

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Speaker 2: getting rid of all the people who didn't vote for Belichick.

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Speaker 2: They've been outed and taken away by ice. They're in

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Speaker 2: a camp somewhere, and they asked me to vote. I

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Speaker 2: will vote against Belichick two. And if that means I

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Speaker 2: go to well, I'll just hide one oh five nine

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Speaker 2: the X. It's gonna nail us no matter what we do,

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Speaker 2: so we might as well have a good time to

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Speaker 3: At one.

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Speaker 2: You know what I used, since I don't eat as

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Speaker 2: much with Awaken one to eighty. Mike McCarthy joined me. Brother.

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Speaker 2: I watch on Snapchat, which is addictive. I watch cooking

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Speaker 2: videos and I just saw somebody make listen carefully a

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Speaker 2: buffalo grilled cheese sandwich. In other words, they took buff

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Speaker 2: a grilled cheese sandwich and put buffalo chicken on it.

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Speaker 2: It looks better than anything I've ever eaten. But where

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Speaker 2: do you get it? I'm not gonna make it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: these are some pretty fancy cooking being done here. So

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Speaker 2: does anybody you know where I can get a buffalo

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Speaker 2: grilled cheese. Buffalo chicken grilled cheese sandwich. That's what I want,

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Speaker 2: buffalo chicken, grilled cheese. We've been talking about all kinds

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Speaker 2: off the wall things today. By the way, I forgot

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Speaker 2: to plug for calls on the fifteen, so call now,

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Speaker 2: don't be left behind.

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Speaker 1: We got the Corsia three thirty.

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Speaker 2: Uh what's the eight three three four one two wxdx

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Speaker 2: eight three three four one two.

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Speaker 1: Wxdx. We've been talking.

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Speaker 2: About well, Tom said that I'm losing my hair, which

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Speaker 2: I am a little bit finally after sixty five years,

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Speaker 2: my hairline's retreating a little bit. Not my custar at

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Speaker 2: little Big Horn, but I can see it. And I

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Speaker 2: that guy look older now that I've lost weight, you know,

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Speaker 2: because fat irons out the wrinkles.

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Speaker 1: Look at McCarthy, no wrinkles there.

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Speaker 2: But so anyway, you know, and my memory really is fading,

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Speaker 2: like I forgot to plug to get calls for calls

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Speaker 2: on the fifteenth.

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Speaker 1: So this show's days are numbered. My days are numbered.

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Speaker 2: But Liverpool eaed one nil in the nineteenth minute goal

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Speaker 2: by McAllister in the fifteenth so I'm happy about that. Listen,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna warn you, and you've probably figured it out.

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Speaker 2: I can't talk about the Steelers all the time.

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Speaker 1: I just can't.

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Speaker 2: I know they do with the B team, and that's

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Speaker 2: actually bringing them some success because they're single minded. Like

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Speaker 2: I had Stuart Skinner on today, I've had twelve Penguins

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Speaker 1: They do none of that. They just talk who's the

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Speaker 1: quarterback going to be? Is McCarthy good?

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Speaker 3: Hire?

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Speaker 1: And I can't do that.

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Speaker 2: Tom win quit, McCarthy got hired, McCarthy talked, and we'll

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Speaker 2: see about the coordinators, and a year from now you'll

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Speaker 2: all be disappointed again because it's going in the same direction.

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Speaker 2: I feel like the most intriguing thing about all this,

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Speaker 2: the most intriguing story is why the two La Rams

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Speaker 2: coaches suddenly fell off the Steelers' radar Sheiel House and

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Speaker 2: Shula and no in person interviews. If I could talk

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Speaker 2: happened during the hiring process for the Steelers head coach,

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Speaker 2: I would want to talk to Chris Shula and Nathan Schielhouse.

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Speaker 1: That's who I think. That's where the story is because

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Speaker 2: Being front runners. I mean, Shula was the betting favorite

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Speaker 1: That, oh too nil?

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Speaker 2: Verts Yes, yes, too nil. What a goal by Florian

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Speaker 2: The palindrome sets him up. Vertz knocks it in two

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Speaker 2: feel like the minute Rooney even suspected remotely that Tom

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Speaker 2: made up his mind to hir McCarthy before Tom Win

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Speaker 2: even quit. Art hired a pretty good coach, the wrong hire,

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Speaker 2: I think. But there's no denying McCarthy's a pretty good coach.

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Speaker 2: But I think more than anything, Art hired the good story.

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Speaker 2: The green Field Guy come home. Even though the Steelers

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Speaker 2: six score, even though they haven't won a playoff game

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Speaker 2: now for nine straight years, Even though the prior head

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Speaker 2: really happened, except some of us do. I think in

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Speaker 2: the wake of all that, Art hired the feel good story.

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Speaker 2: I mean, don't gonna be wrong again, and I keep saying,

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Speaker 2: good coach, But rather than turn the page, he hired

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Speaker 2: a feel good story, a local guy who erases what

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Speaker 2: bad happened. And you people who didn't like the hire,

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Speaker 2: you're okay with it now. After that press conference, the

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Speaker 2: Steelers played this one exactly correctly in every way but

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Speaker 2: winning football.

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Speaker 1: You watch.

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Speaker 2: Eight three, three, four one two WXDX. We got the

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Speaker 2: Coursey up next one oh five nine.

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Speaker 1: Hey, find yourself.

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Speaker 2: Needing a little post holiday cash infusion, Say no more,

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Speaker 2: not the exit one o five nine. There's a report

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Speaker 2: the Steelers have hired Patrick Graham as the defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: He was the coordinator the last four years with the

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Speaker 2: La excuse me, the Las Vegas Raiders, before that with

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Speaker 2: Right, No, it's time to talk to our good friend

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Speaker 2: Mike de Corsi of the Sporting News, Pittsburgh's own Mike,

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Speaker 2: just find out Patrick Cram looks like he's going to

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Speaker 1: Does that higher strike you one way or the other?

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Speaker 3: On Graham's resume, what exactly is invigorating? I mean, nothing

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Speaker 2: No defensive coordinator was the big higher giving them McCarthy's

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Speaker 2: hire on a second, Mike, But how do you feel

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Speaker 3: Well, I just don't understand how so many people could

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I totally agree, And I don't like the

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Speaker 1: It's not different. It's apples and apples.

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Speaker 3: It's different because it's baseball and that's romantic. But football

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Speaker 2: Does it matter who didn't vote for Belichick because there's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd use it to get myself over. Everybody's going

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Speaker 2: us by South Hills KIAP. Mike, let's get back to

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Speaker 2: Well, you touched on him being from Greenfield. We talked

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Speaker 2: Not that McCarthy's a bad coach. I just don't think

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Speaker 1: Was almost washed.

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Speaker 2: He was almost washed up let alone, you know, McCarthy

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Speaker 2: Well, if Rodgers doesn't come back, who's the quarterback? And

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Speaker 3: Know, well, I was hopeful that they would be in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know why he.

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Speaker 2: Didn't want to come to Pittsburgh, especially after Justin Fields.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Justin Field sucks, but I don't think he

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Speaker 2: I would have gone back to him late in his

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Speaker 2: I mean, if it's not Rogers, is it will Howard?

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Speaker 2: than who of the coaches.

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Speaker 3: Well, for me, the Will Howard thing started to feel

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Speaker 3: like some of the same salesmanship as the Joe Montana thing.

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Speaker 3: No question, because I don't believe that. Yes, I don't

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Speaker 3: believe that McCarthy thinks that he's a great prospect. I

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Speaker 3: don't believe he's and I don't believe he's seen enough

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Speaker 3: gone into those circumstances and tested him out and all that.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't in camp. When when all the Steelers writers

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Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, maybe he's not so bad

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Speaker 3: turned into he's next Tom Brady, I don't. I don't

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Speaker 3: buy that either.

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Speaker 2: That felt his stock went up when he couldn't play

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Speaker 2: in the preseason. Now we don't know, and that's made

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Speaker 2: him somehow a bigger possibility. Finally, my I said earlier

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Speaker 2: true seer them and find out what happened. It would

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Speaker 2: contender Shula the betting favorite. Sheelhaus reportedly had a great

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Speaker 2: virtual interview and then didn't even get an in person interview.

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Speaker 1: They just totally dropped off the radar bang in an instant.

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Speaker 3: I didn't like it. I thought that it would have

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Speaker 2: People Mike, and two of them were met color to

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Speaker 2: satisfy the Rooney Well, they were always going to hire McCarthy.

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Speaker 3: Well, I would say that I agree with you about

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Speaker 3: uh the truth serum with Shula, But the other person

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Speaker 3: I'd want to use is Art Rooney. I'd want to

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Speaker 3: know why it went so fast, you know what? And

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Speaker 3: I know you have your theory and I think there's

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Speaker 3: But why why why the rush to hire Rooney? Why

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Speaker 3: abandon a fifty five year proven formula, Why why all

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Speaker 3: of that? It just doesn't make sense to me. And

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Speaker 3: I don't think that Steelers fans are going to be

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Speaker 1: Mike is always great stuff.

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Speaker 2: I gotta go, I gotta hit the phones, look for

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Speaker 2: a right back in a center defender because we ain't

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Speaker 2: got none left.

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Speaker 1: That suggest you pitch in and do the same. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you next week.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Mark.

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Speaker 2: That's Mike the course he brought to us by South

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Speaker 2: Fields Key and we got zeiss at.

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