1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Eight three, three four one two w xdxter number to call, 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: or you can follow me on Twitter at mark man X. 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: Don't forget. 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: I got a viewing party tonight at Pittsburgh Brewing Company 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: for the Penguins opener right off through twenty eight in Creighton. 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: Festivity started at seven registered to win and the game 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: starts at eight o'clock. I watched that Chiefs in Jags 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: game last night, don at Archie's on the South Side. 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: That was an exciting game. Trevor Lawrence, he came through, 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: fell down, got up, no time outs, said I better 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: score a touchdown, and he did. Trevor Lawrence looks like 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: a Golden retriever. He's not that classic good looking quarterback. 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: He's that classic good looking golden retriever. 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 3: Uh. 15 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: My Kansas City Chiefs prediction of no playoffs looks better 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,319 Speaker 1: and better, Better and better, baby, baby, I can't get 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: the dusty voice to peel back. Now better and better. 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: The Chiefs thought they'd be good, No, I didn't. I 19 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: thought they'd missed the playoffs another two and three. After 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: losing at Jacksonville last night, Kansas City was up fourteen 21 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: to nil and then twenty eight twenty four with under 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: two minutes left and Jacksonville drove sixty yards in seven 23 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: plays and it didn't look that hard. Tell you the truth, Lawrence, 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: like I said, with a one yard run for the 25 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: game winning touchdown after tripping and stumbling like alignment stuffed 26 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: on his foot, I think right after the snap, the 27 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: Jags are better and they're tough for now. They have 28 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: a bit of an edge about them. And the Chiefs 29 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: have just lost that will to win. I said before 30 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: the season they weren't going to make the playoffs. Too 31 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: many extra games. Chris Canny, we got a sound bite 32 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: from him and just a little bit talking about that 33 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are done. The Chiefs are done. You better 34 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: hope so, because let's say the Steelers win the division, 35 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: the Chiefs get a wild card, Chiefs would come to 36 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: Ackershroum beat the Steelers in the playoff game because then 37 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: that old mojo would kick in. The big news in 38 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: NFC North Flacco go trade the Bengals today, which is 39 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: like insane for a fifth ron pick. But here's what's 40 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: interesting about that. With Flacco out the picture in Cleveland, 41 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: if Dylan Gabriel gets hurt or sucks at aquature on 42 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: Sunday opportunity knocks for Shador Sanders and certainly for the media, 43 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: because boy, would nothing be better than that. That said, 44 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: I really liked them. I didn't realize I heard Tomlin 45 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: in his babbel today. The one thing he said that 46 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: wasn't totally babbel, was it? Dylan Gabels twenty five. Of 47 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: course Kenny Pickett came to the league as an old 48 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: man too, But uh, Dylan Gay, I think there's something there. 49 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: And I got to tell you, with the quality of 50 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: all the big time quarterbacks in next year's draft, you know, 51 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: they're dropping like flies. 52 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: Drew Allers stinks. 53 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: I think he'll be a better pro quarterback than a 54 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: college quarterback. 55 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: Arch Manning stinks. Arch Manning will absolutely be Texas for 56 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: another year. 57 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: He's already established that that would be his best course 58 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: of action by the way he's played. But the point 59 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: is Cleveland, if they finish real low, maybe they feel 60 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: Gabriel is their guy and shore up elsewhere. 61 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: Then again, do they have a first round pick? I 62 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: should have looked that up. Are they Are they done? 63 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: Having lost first round picks because of the absurd contract 64 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: they gave to the massage guy quarterback Deshaun Watson. 65 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: Uh. 66 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: But again with Flacco going, both Steeler games got more 67 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: interesting now, right. You got Schadoran play for Sunday's game 68 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: at Acresshore. Then the next Thursday night, when I will 69 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: be on a plane in the Liverpool, you got Joe 70 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: Flacco probably start for the Bengals. We got the MLB 71 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: playoffs going on as well. La is up two games 72 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: done on Philadelphia, Millie walk who I'm kind of rooting for, 73 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: up to to Neil on Chicago. That could be the Pirates. 74 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: They have a playoff caliber pitching staff. That could be 75 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: the Pirates getting killed. Like Philadelphia and Chicago. The only 76 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: good series, the only one that's not two games to 77 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: none is Seattle and Detroit. Tried one to one. Seattle 78 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: beat Scooball somehow in game one on Monday three two. 79 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: That hurts Detroit, but Detroit reminded to win game two. 80 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: You know, you know what kills the playoffs in baseball. 81 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: There's too many layers. There shouldn't be that many layers 82 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,799 Speaker 1: of playoffs. After a one hundred and sixty two game season, 83 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: if you won your division, you should not have to 84 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: play three series to win the championship. It should have 85 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: been like it was. They should have left it like 86 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: that in perpetuity. Two wild cards single a limb, four 87 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: versus five, then you go right to the division series 88 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: and the championship series. In the World Series, it's still 89 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: have to win three rounds, but you know you wouldn't 90 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: be division champs subject to that crap shoot like one 91 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,239 Speaker 1: is in the wild card round. I gotta be honest. 92 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: My favorite period of baseball was twelve teams in each 93 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: league West and East in each league league championship series 94 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: than the World Series, because that was fair. You won 95 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: the division after one hundred and sixty two games, you 96 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: got right to it. You didn't have to wade through 97 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: crap and maybe drown in it to get to the 98 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: real series. Well, I would like to say conclusion that 99 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 1: you can't judge the honey by looking at the bee. 100 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: You can't judge the apple by looking at the tree. 101 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 1: At the bottom of the hour, we got Pierre Maguire 102 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: talking hockey. It's a big hockey day here on the 103 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: Mark Madden Show one O five to ninety X. The thing, 104 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, just big and it's soft, and I 105 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: use a bunch of pillows and I saw the X at. 106 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 4: One five nine. 107 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: I told you, I told you before the football season 108 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: start at Kansas City Chiefs not going to make the playoffs. 109 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: They're two and three now after losing last night to Jacksonville. 110 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: Here's Chris Canny on ESPN. He's saying what I've been 111 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: saying about the Case Chiefs, and. 112 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 5: Right now a lot of guys on the Kansas City. 113 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: Chiefs are more named than game. 114 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 5: This is the latest that they've been below five hundred 115 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 5: since the twenty twenty one season, and so you have 116 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 5: to wonder at what point does complacency set in with 117 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 5: the Kansas City Chiefs. Remember in the Mahomes era, they 118 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 5: played two months more of football than anybody else during 119 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 5: that span when you consider those deep playoff runs. 120 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean. 121 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 5: That has to be weighed when it comes to what 122 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 5: we can expect from Kansas City for the remainder. 123 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 2: Of the regulation. 124 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,679 Speaker 1: More name than game. I love it, testify my brother. 125 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: And it's not that the Chiefs suck exactly or the 126 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: Mahomes is washed. They're just born on from all those 127 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: extra playoff games. Like Canny said, two months more football, 128 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: it's actually more like three almost four more months of football. 129 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: Other teams are fresher and younger and hungrier like Jacksonville 130 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: last night, it would actually be best for Kansas City to 131 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: miss the playoffs and rest and regroup for next year. 132 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: If we're talking big picture. 133 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: But teams that you know, win a bunch of Super 134 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: Bowls and still have a lot of the same guys, 135 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: they're not thinking big picture. 136 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: They're thinking now. 137 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: But even if Kansas City would make this year's playoffs, 138 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: they're no threat to win the super Bowl. 139 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: But like I said a. 140 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: Little bit earlier, if they would get a wild card 141 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: and the Steelers would win the AFC North and they'd 142 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: be matched in the wild card round, I'm afraid I've 143 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: got some bad news. Speaking of bad news, I was 144 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: listening to the Mike Tomlin press conference. 145 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: Don't judge me. 146 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: I was driving around and it's on the radio, and 147 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: there was nothing good on serious exam So I said, 148 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: okayl listen to this for change. I generally get the 149 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: highlights on Twitter, and it was just unbearable. It's very eloquent, 150 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: but it's all horseman or. He says absolutely nothing, except 151 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: like I said a bit earlier, he gave a real 152 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: good background on Dylan Gabriel, the Cleveland quarterback. I learn 153 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: more about Dylan Gabriel and the Mike Tomlin press briefing 154 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: than I did about his own team, the Steelers. He said, 155 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: it's very early in the process for Roman Wilson unquote, 156 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: and I'm likef Off, He's been here two preseasons and 157 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: twenty one regular season games. Very early in the process, 158 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: f Off, Let's go to Jeff. Jeff, you go to 159 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: Mark Madden show. That's in the world as Bobby for me, 160 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: no ar no, okay, goodbye, love Bobby Fermino. Love that 161 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: Liverpool song. It's just dumb the call in and be 162 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: dumb trying to think of the rest of that song though, 163 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: so I could actually have picked it up if you're 164 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: just tuning in. And if you are just tuning in, 165 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: shame on you. For six weeks. I miss Mikey. 166 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: I do. 167 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: I think of that whenever I listen to a Penguin 168 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: game on radio or watch it on TV. I miss 169 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: Mike Lang. I know we all do. And gets Off 170 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: and Joe brand do just a great job. And I 171 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: miss Mikey on a personal level too. He was such 172 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: a good friend and big influence on me and I 173 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: miss him appearing on the show as well. 174 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: But the big news is Shilloffs is in goal. 175 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: Tonight, the Latvian instead of Jarry, And that's sending a 176 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: message not just to Jari, but I think to turn 177 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: and face the strange to changes, because you know, that 178 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: takes away some of the staleness in. 179 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: Game one right off the top. And I think Shilloffs 180 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,479 Speaker 2: might be the better goalie. 181 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: And I right now, and I think that that Dubus 182 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: and Muse might have thought that because they just you know, 183 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: got him from Vancouver. You never saw it coming. Why 184 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: they do that. They got Jari, they got Blumquist, they 185 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: got Morishov. Now, Morrishoff's their guy in the long run, 186 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: and if they had a good team, he'd be the 187 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: goalie right now. 188 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 2: But they don't. He's out of harm's way. 189 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: And Wilkes, like we've talked about a million times, but 190 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: they've lost a little faith in blumb Quist because blumb 191 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: Quist he came up last year. He didn't get shot 192 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: full of holes, but he let in some bad goals 193 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 1: and just he didn't have the right demeanor. I've never 194 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: seen him, even in the preseason with the right demeanor. 195 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: He's like very I don't know its plastic A good 196 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: way to describe it. I mean Morrishoff. He's athletic. You 197 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: notice him, He's conspicuous, he battles, So I think the 198 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: bloom is a bit off. 199 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 2: One Quist Rose. 200 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: I don't think they thought they could count on him 201 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: to be an NHL goalie this year, so they brought 202 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: in shilloffs and you know, for one night anyway, he's 203 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: Numero Uno head honcho. Don't know if that'll last, but 204 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: I do like starting him, uh for Game one. Up next, 205 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: the hockey talk comes sticking fast. It's our main man, 206 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: Pierre McGuire. Pierre McGuire up next to one O five 207 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: to nine, one. 208 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 4: O five nine, The X has your shot at tags drink. 209 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: Cash money like that secret Lucho dinner ros. 210 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 4: I'm rich, rich, Rich, Gim listen all day for your chance. 211 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 4: Has some extra cash on one oh. 212 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: Five nine The X. This is Doug Gottlieb. Here's what's 213 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: trending from the iHeart Sports Network, presented by Mercedes Benz. 214 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 6: The Penguins open the season tonight against X coach Mike 215 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 6: Sullivan and the Rangers. 216 00:11:58,679 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: It's the twentieth opener. 217 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 6: Sidney Crosby Crystal Tang and have Guinny malkin the football 218 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 6: and after their bye week, the Steelers are turning their 219 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 6: attention to a Week six showdown with the rival Browns. 220 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 6: Pittsburgh three and one on the season and after rampant 221 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 6: speculation about a retirement announcement, Lebron James's second decision today 222 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 6: was an ad for Kognak Brand Hennessy. 223 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: I'm Scott David SI looking for an exceptional driving experience. 224 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: Find it behind the wheel of the Mercedes. 225 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: Mister Madden. Their mock might say no right now, but 226 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: in their hearts they're saying yes, yes. 227 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: Oh yes d X at one five nine, the NHL 228 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 2: season is upon us. Thank God. 229 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 1: Let's talk now to a man who's done everything there 230 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: is to do in the great game. You're gonna hear 231 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: one the Penguins Radio network this season. He is Pierre McGuire. 232 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: Pierre. 233 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: The Penguins are at Madison Square Garden tonight to open 234 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: the season and shive offs his in goal instead of Jari. 235 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: Does that surprise you not at all? 236 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 3: No, you know you look at it right now. Christian 237 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 3: Jerry has had some work to do to get back. 238 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 3: I think his confidence mark and get back to the 239 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 3: way he used to play. Archer Sea loss coming off 240 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: the championship season in the American Hockey League. He had 241 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 3: a very good playoff two years ago with Vancouver, he 242 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: was the MVP of the American Hockey League playoffs. He's 243 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 3: had a very good training camp and I just think 244 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: for the Pittsburgh Penguins, they wanted to try to make 245 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 3: a statement lay out of the gate. If you played well, 246 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 3: you're going to be rewarded, and any Sea loss has 247 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 3: proven he's played well. 248 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 2: Totally agree. 249 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: We're seeing a lot of change with the Penguins, but 250 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: I think Shilov's in goal tonight kind of force feeds 251 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: some to the locker room, to the fans a little 252 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: bit more right off the bat. 253 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 3: Rug Wall said, and I agree. The other thing too 254 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 3: is you know, you look at the kids that are 255 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 3: in the lineup, No pun Intendant, Ben Kindall being in 256 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 3: the lineup, Harrison Bruneck being in the lineup. They're being 257 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 3: rewarded for very good training camps and they should be 258 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: really proud of that. It is hard to make a 259 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 3: Pearl Hockey roster, whether it's in the East Coast League, 260 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: the American Hockey League, or the NHL, it's really really difficult. 261 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 3: The amount of competition is fierce, and so for those 262 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 3: young players who have done this, I think it's a 263 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 3: huge statement from a Penguins organization to their fan base 264 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 3: and also a statement to the players that are part 265 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 3: of the organization. If you work hard, if you're diligent, 266 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 3: if you're coachable, you've got a chance to play at 267 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 3: the highest level. 268 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: Well, those kids are going to add a lot of energy, 269 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: and like I said, take away the staleness. How do 270 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: you think the veterans will accept playing with kids, And 271 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: how do you think the veterans will accept a new 272 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: coach and Dan Mues, who apparently you know and rightly 273 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: wants a bit more structure. 274 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 3: I think they'll respond, well, you know, he's got a 275 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 3: captive audience and a brand new canvas to paint on. 276 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 3: Because the last three years have not been good for 277 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Penguins. Outside of Sydney Crosby having three straight 278 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: years and ninety plus points, this has been a team 279 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 3: that you buy and large has really underachieved, and so 280 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 3: it was time for a new voice. That's not a 281 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 3: knock on Mike Salivan. Mike Saltan's going to go to 282 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 3: New York and coaches dry eroff and he'll do a 283 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 3: good job. But you know, you the voice gets stale 284 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 3: after a while, especially if you haven't wanted that one 285 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 3: in three years, you know, and the last time they 286 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: won a playoffs series a lot longer than three years. 287 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: So you look at it. I think it was a good, 288 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 3: really smart move. It's an opportunity for obviously coach from 289 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 3: News to make his mark. I was talking to Scotty 290 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: Bowman about this today. Mark. I don't know if he's 291 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: done any Recer Child up, but this is for your fans. 292 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 3: Scotty Bowman was the first ever assistant coach in the 293 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: National Hockey League and he was only that for sixteen games, 294 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 3: and then Lynn Patrick and Craig Patrick's father stepped aside 295 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 3: in Saint Louis in nineteen sixty seven and allowed Scotty 296 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 3: to start this unbelievable head coaching career. The next assistant coach, ever, 297 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 3: was a guy that worked for Fred Chirou in Philadelphia, 298 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 3: And so you look at that, and I thought of 299 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 3: it today, and I don't know if you guys have 300 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: talked about it. Dan Hues was the assistant coach in 301 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 3: New York this past couple of years, and he's gotten 302 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: to Pittsburgh to take Mike Sullivan's job as a head coach, 303 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: and Mike Sullivan's gone to take, you know, Peter Laveolette's 304 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: job in New York. I don't think we've ever seen 305 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 3: an opening night where a former assistant for one team 306 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 3: as a head coach of the opposition and the former 307 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 3: head coach of the opposition. It's now where the assistant 308 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 3: coaches to be and they're coaching against one another. Gott 309 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: he doesn't think it's ever happened in the history of 310 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 3: the NHL, and I would agree with him. 311 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would bet that's for sure true. And I 312 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: think Muse will do well. I think Seally'll do well there. 313 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: Like you said, now you mentioned Brunick and Kindall. The 314 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: young kid who's slipping under the radar a little bit 315 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: because maybe he played several games of the Penguins last 316 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: year is Billy Cloyvenan. He's going to play in the 317 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: line with Sid. I see him as against the one 318 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: in the making. I think he could wind up in 319 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: the Rookie of the Year conversation. 320 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 3: He's a tremendous offensive force. He was a really good 321 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: player over in Finland for a bunch of years. He's 322 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 3: from up north, and he's got how Keyrun is the town, 323 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 3: and he's a talented kid. The biggest thing that I 324 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 3: like about him is, and I like this about most 325 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 3: of the things that come over. Most of the European 326 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 3: rinks are two hundred and you know, two hundred and 327 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 3: three two hundred and four feet long and about one 328 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 3: hundred feet wide. In Finland they play the hybrid. It's 329 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 3: two hundred feet in length, the same as a North 330 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 3: American rank, but instead of being you know, eighty five feet, 331 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 3: why it's ninety to ninety three feet wide. And there's 332 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 3: way more impact, more collisions, less time and space to 333 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 3: make plays in Finland than any other country in Europe. 334 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 3: And I think that helps players like really poor even 335 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 3: and come over and really make the adjustment much easier 336 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: than maybe some of the other kids that come over. 337 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 2: I think Bruneck will do. 338 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: I think it would be wise unless he totally falls 339 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: flat in these first nine games, I'd keep him here 340 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: because I think he's outgrown major junior. We talked about 341 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: that some last week and watching him a Kenna play 342 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: for Penn State makes me realize why he went to 343 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: Penn State, because he's not dominating there like he did 344 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: in Major junior. 345 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: It's more of a challenge, and Brunick's not on. 346 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: McKenna's level, not quite, but I think the comparison applies. 347 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, yes, it absolutely applies. The biggest thing 348 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 3: for Harrison doing it going forward is to show over 349 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 3: these first nine games of a trial run that he 350 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 3: can handle the everyday consistency that you have to have 351 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 3: to last in the league as a defender. And if 352 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 3: he can do that, that's going to be the telltale 353 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 3: signing that he should not go back to junior. The 354 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 3: good news for Penguins fans if he does go back 355 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 3: to junior and dominate at the major junior level, that's fine. 356 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 3: The biggest thing that could happen for him, though, I 357 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 3: was playing or the World Junior Championship, which this year 358 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 3: is in Minnesota, and that that is a fantastic developmental 359 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 3: tool where the Penguins could still let him go playing that, 360 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 3: even if he stays in the NFL. They could let 361 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 3: him go and playing that and then come back and 362 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 3: join the Penguins if they don't want to send him back. 363 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: To junior now with Rust and McGroarty out, the Penguins 364 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: look like a one line team to me, Pierre, no 365 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: disrespect to Gino, but you got Sid, Raquel and Coyven. 366 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 2: I think that's a potent line. 367 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: But that's gonna force some matchup problems for Sid's line, 368 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: won't it. 369 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 3: It will for sure, And this is why we talked 370 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: about Ben kindall before playing with Tommy Novak and Tomasino. 371 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: That line could be sneaky good if they don't get overmatched. 372 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 3: And so if they're getting the third d pairing of 373 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 3: the Rangers tonight, so that would be back in nine 374 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 3: and them Braden Schneider. If they get those guys, they 375 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 3: got a chance to do some work and that could 376 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 3: help the Penguins. But Shid and Raquel and Cleveland and 377 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 3: they're gonna definitely have a matchup Fishes tonight for sure, Pierre. 378 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 2: What any of the Rangers? Are they any good? 379 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I like a lot of their players. 380 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: I like the addition and the captaincy of JT. Miller, 381 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: but I see some holes in that lineup. 382 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 3: I didn't think they did enough work in the summer 383 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 3: to make the team better. They going to tell you 384 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 3: that they went out and signed Dadvitoff as the UFA 385 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 3: from LA and they spent seven million dollars a year 386 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: on a guy that's more of a shop blocker than 387 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 3: an offensive force. So I'm not sure that's good enough. 388 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 3: They're going to tell you that they turned Noah Laba 389 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 3: pro out of Colorado College. He's a fourth round pick 390 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 3: and he's gonna play in their team. I'll see them. 391 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: Matt he's a good player. I've seen him play for 392 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 3: a lot of years. He's a good player. But the 393 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 3: truth of the matter is they had other pressing needs 394 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 3: and I don't think they were as addressed, and so 395 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 3: for that, I think they're going to have issues in 396 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 3: terms of consistency offensively. If Panering or Trotech or Miller 397 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 3: ever goes down for a long period of time, any 398 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 3: one of those three, they're in big, big, big trouble. 399 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: You mentioned JT. Miller, who's the Pittsburgh kid. Will he 400 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: work out with the Rangers and as their captain? 401 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 3: I think so. I've always been a fan of JT. 402 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 3: I've known him at the rank and i've known him 403 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 3: away from the rank. One of the best things that 404 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 3: happened in terms of me understanding JT being in Edmonton 405 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 3: for two and a half months when he was with Vancouver. 406 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 3: They were there for good portions of that time that 407 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 3: I was there, and I spent a lot of time 408 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 3: in the hotel lobby talking to JT. And I was 409 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 3: really fascinated by the way carried himself. I thought he 410 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 3: was a leader on that team. I know he's hard, 411 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 3: but I like that. I like that in players. I 412 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 3: like players to challenge other guys to want to be better, 413 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 3: and I saw that in JT. And I admired that 414 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 3: a lot. And he was kind of like the pied 415 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 3: piper A lot of those guys in that Vancouver team 416 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 3: back then at the beginning of COVID, they were following 417 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 3: him around and they were listening to every little thing 418 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 3: he had to say. So I liked. You know, I 419 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 3: think it won't work for him in New York. I 420 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 3: just don't know if the team around him is going 421 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 3: to be deep enough. 422 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 2: Is he a center or a wing? He's played both. 423 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: He's playing center, I ask you, because I'm not sure. 424 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 3: I'm going to say that. I think he's a better 425 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 3: winger than a center. But one thing I do know 426 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 3: He's very good at taking faceoffs. I just like his 427 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 3: physical grit and determination on the boards. He wins a 428 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 3: lot of races. He's fearless on the floor check, and 429 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 3: he can drive you mess. If you're a start offensive 430 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 3: of the other team, he can get app You're pretty 431 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 3: good as a winger. As a centerment it's not as 432 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 3: easy to do that because you got to come back 433 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 3: and play deep in your owns off. So I prefer 434 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 3: him a little bit as a winger, but I understand 435 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 3: why the Rangers are playing him at center. 436 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: Right now, we're talking to Pierre Maguire here on the X. Pierre, 437 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: I got to mention my guy, Vincent Trocheck, another Pittsburgh 438 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: guy playing for the Rangers. I think he's among the 439 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: best second or third line centers in the league, and 440 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: very few guys are better at playing that bumper position 441 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: on the power play. 442 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 3: Well said, Well said, and well said. And one of 443 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 3: the best things that happened to Vinnie Trochek was having 444 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 3: an opportunity to play for Rod Brindamore and Carolina, And 445 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 3: the other thing that really helped him was having Michael 446 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 3: Peck as an assistant coach for the New York Rangers. 447 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 3: It rounded out and then his game. Brindamore helped him 448 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 3: defensively and being aware a lot that really helped him. 449 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 3: And then in New York, I can tell you that 450 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 3: Michael Peck and what he did in terms of help 451 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 3: him with face offs and understanding how to play deep 452 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 3: in his own zone helped him a ton. So I'm 453 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 3: a big Trocheck fan. Obviously a kid that did not 454 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 3: go to college, Root went the major junior route, had 455 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 3: some really guardy numbers before he turned throw with Florida, 456 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 3: and I think he will have a very large year 457 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 3: with the New York Rangers this year. 458 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: You mentioned pen I love Paneren How could you not? 459 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: But if production dropped last year by thirty one points, 460 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: what happened there? 461 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 3: Was? 462 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: It just kind of a blip? You know? How do 463 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: you figure? 464 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 3: I just think their team was lost right from the start. 465 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 3: There was a malfunction at the junction. It started in 466 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 3: the summer when they were talking about what are we 467 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 3: going to do with Jacob Trueba? Are we going to 468 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 3: keep them? Are we going to trade him? Are we 469 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 3: going to keep the vantage out A We're gonna trade him? 470 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 3: What about the potential of moving Chris Cryder that was 471 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 3: a dressing room and fluxed the entire year there. And 472 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 3: I think Paneren took that to heart. I really do, 473 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 3: and I think a lot of their guys did. Adam 474 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 3: Fox had a terrible year last year, and he's somebody 475 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 3: that I'd known for a long time, and really there 476 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 3: just was a malfunction at the junction there, I really do. 477 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: You know. 478 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 3: You look at what they did in the summer, and 479 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 3: they moved Keandrey Miller down to Carolina. I brought in 480 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 3: Scotty Moroll, a kid that I know very well. I 481 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 3: played with my son for five years in youth hockey. 482 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 3: And Scotty's already been sent to the American Hockey So 483 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 3: I just think the Rangers were a little bit this 484 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 3: combobulated last year. And again I'm not sure if they've 485 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 3: done enough to make their team better. We'll see how 486 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 3: it goes this year, but right now, I still think 487 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 3: they have work to do to make the roster better. 488 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: Can the Penguins possibly get a playoffs block Pier? I 489 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: doubt it. But what has to happen because it's obviously 490 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: a long shot, Well, they. 491 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 3: Have to get off to a good start. That's really important, 492 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 3: you know, that market. You know, you understand that if 493 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 3: they don't get off to a good start, everybody's gonna 494 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: start saying Wen's crossby getting traded, Wen's crossby get trade? 495 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: When's mouth and getting created? When's the bang getting trade? 496 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 3: So you don't need that around the room. If you 497 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 3: get off to a good start, all of a sudden, 498 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 3: he goes like, Wow, this thing could work. We've got 499 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 3: youthful enthusiasms and guys that guys that care guying on 500 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 3: to stay here. We've got some great young prospects in Wilsbury. 501 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 3: And by the way, I think Wilsbury is gonna have 502 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 3: a very good team. I watched them play against Hershey 503 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 3: Bears on Friday morning at ten thirty, and they won 504 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 3: the game in a shoot up. But I thought they 505 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 3: looked really good for a team that had a lot 506 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 3: of guys that eventually got sent to Wheeling. But I 507 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 3: would just say this, I think the Penguins, they did 508 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 3: one team that really has to have a good start. 509 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 3: If they're playing from behind after the first fifteen games, 510 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 3: it's going to be a tough year. They got to 511 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 3: get a good start. 512 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 2: Who's your sleeper on the Penguins to have a big year. 513 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: Not one of the obvious, not one of the you know, 514 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: established guys who can you see coming through more than 515 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: we expect. 516 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 3: Well, you talked about coryven and I think he'd be one, 517 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 3: so he might be a little obvious. I think the 518 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 3: other one is Tommy Novak. You know, Tommy's been hurt 519 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 3: a little bit, but Tommy is a good player at 520 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 3: the University of Minnesota, he did some really good things 521 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 3: with the Nashville Predators. I was excited when he came 522 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 3: to Pittsburgh because he's a faithful player that I think 523 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 3: really fits the way pitch for Lights to play. Even 524 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 3: though they didn't play that way last year, I think 525 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 3: they're starting to final way they like to play again. 526 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 3: So I think tom you know that is a depth player, 527 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 3: is a guy that could really surprise some people. 528 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: Pierre, we got to talk about the McDavid extension. He 529 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: gave a discount and only took a two year deal. 530 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: What's McDavid's purpose with that contract he accepted, which apparently 531 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: he suggested. 532 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 3: Here's my theory on it. I've not spoken to anybody 533 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 3: in Edmonton, but I have talked to the great Scottie 534 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 3: Bowman about this. Today as I said it's time to 535 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 3: him earlier. So he asked me what I thought, and 536 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 3: I said, well, it's year one of Leon dry Sadles 537 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 3: eight year deal, so they match up on mat for 538 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 3: three of the eight. It's year four of eight for 539 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 3: Darnell Nurse, so they'll still have, you know, time left 540 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 3: if they have success. It's year one of four with 541 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 3: Bouchard on the back end and he's really tight. And 542 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 3: it's a new three year contract for the coach who 543 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 3: they really like. And I can tell you right now 544 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 3: Chris Knoblock is one of you know, Connor McDavid's favorite 545 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 3: coaches of all time. So if you look at it, 546 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 3: the contract kind of matches up with all those other 547 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 3: big name players on Edmonton that they have to have 548 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 3: that they're going to be successful. That's number one. But 549 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 3: this is really important and Scotty brought this up to me, 550 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 3: and it makes sense. Nobody knows if there's a no 551 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 3: trader and no move in that contract. So really, while 552 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 3: everybody's saying it's it's three years you have with them, 553 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 3: what happens if the first two years don't go well? 554 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 3: And what happens if there's let's just say a no 555 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 3: trader or no move in year three. 556 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,959 Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, but even if there is a no movement, 557 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: he can waive it. I feel like the deal at 558 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: s lengthened the price was an ultimatum win within two years. 559 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: I've given you some resources to make the team better, 560 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: or then trade me before that last year commitment. 561 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 2: I really think it might be that simple, or. 562 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 3: Or it could be you know what, I'm really mad 563 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 3: at you guys after the first two years and you 564 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 3: know what, I'm just gonna leave here and you're not 565 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 3: gonna get anything for me because I sacrificed a lot 566 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 3: of money to stay here. So that's kind of how Oh, 567 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 3: to be a snarky hockey person would look at that. 568 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 3: But I agree there's two ways to look at it 569 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 3: for sure. 570 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: For sure, Pierre, speaking as a snarky hockey person, we 571 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: are not always wrong, and I think we might be 572 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: right with this one. Now, does McDavid's price bring the 573 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: market back down after Kaprosoft got paid seventeen million per year? 574 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 3: No, I don't think it does. And you know what'd 575 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 3: be the two test contracts on that. It's gonna be 576 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 3: what happens with Jack Digel in Vegas. And what happens 577 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 3: with Kyle Connor in Winnipeg. Kyle Connor's got better numbers 578 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 3: than the Caprice off and Jack Gigel's already want to 579 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 3: Stanley cupanies in natural center Iceman. So this is gonna 580 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 3: be really interesting. If both those guys go north of 581 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 3: fifteen million, it's going to really create a market upheaval 582 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 3: for a lot of teams. And I just don't know 583 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 3: how winnip be able to pull that off financially if 584 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 3: they do have to do that to keep Kyle. 585 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: Connor, Pierre real quick, who's your Stanley Cup champ? 586 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: Who's your MVP? Let's get the cliched questions in there. 587 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that Toronto Maples are gonna win the 588 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 3: Stanley Cup this year. I've never ever once picked the 589 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 3: Leafs to win the Cup. I thought they'd be closed 590 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 3: last year, and they were pretty close, but they dunk 591 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 3: in Game five in Game seven after having a two 592 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 3: nothing neat in their series with Florida. But I just 593 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 3: look at the additions they've made in the offseason. I 594 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 3: talked to Craig Groovey at length yesterday. He's in such 595 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 3: a good place as a person and as a coach 596 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 3: right now. I think his players really will feed off 597 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 3: him and the MVP. If they do win, I think 598 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 3: it'll be Austin Matthews. 599 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, depends what kind of shape he's in. He was 600 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: dealing with some injuries for a while. Pierre, I gotta 601 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: tell you, the Eastern Conference is so beat up and 602 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: not very good. 603 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: The Leafs really don't have an excuse. 604 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: I wonder if Tampa Bay might have one last one 605 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: in them given the state of that conference. 606 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 3: The only certain I have for Tampa is on defense. 607 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 3: They're a little bit older, especially with McDonough and Headman, 608 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 3: and they've lost a couple of young guys that people 609 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 3: don't realize, Like Purvis was a pretty good player for them. 610 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 3: He's moved up to Nashville, so they've they've had some 611 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 3: issues in terms of defection, and I don't know if 612 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 3: they've been able to replace those guys in the house. 613 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to watching them play a regular season game, 614 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 3: but no, Tampa is going to cause some problems. I'm 615 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 3: a little concerned for the Florida Panthers. Mark. I won't 616 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 3: even pretend I know that Pritty's sock and three P 617 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 3: three P. You know the Sasha Barkoff injury is pretty significant. 618 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 3: Ka Chuck not being able to play until January is 619 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 3: pretty significant, And they're gonna have a boatload of guys 620 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 3: playing at the Olympics in Italy, and usually when you 621 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 3: come back from that, it's probably a two to three 622 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 3: week window where your better players are really fatigued. So 623 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 3: I worry about Florida a lot being able to do 624 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,719 Speaker 3: a three pat but their team that's got a lot 625 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 3: of heart and soul, that's for sure. 626 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: Pierre will be You're doing a bunch of work for 627 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: the Penguins radio network this year. 628 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 2: Will you be on tonight? 629 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 3: I will be on tonight and I can't wait. I'll 630 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 3: be on the Coolbe Armstrong and also with my dear 631 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 3: friend and superissar Paul Stigerwall can't wait to do it. 632 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 3: And uh, I'm so grateful of the Penguins organization and 633 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 3: to everybody involved with this, and I can't wait to 634 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 3: get going. Mark, And I know you played a role 635 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 3: in this too, and I'm forever grateful. And now I'm 636 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 3: so happy to be part of the family again. Really excited, Bar. 637 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: You're on the team. I'm excited, You're excited. Let's see 638 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: what happens tonight? Great stuff, We'll talk next week. 639 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 3: Can't wait, my friend. 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