1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Boston's Bulldozer operates seven days a week. The Kooner Report 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: Weekend edition WRKO, the voice of Boston. 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: Good Morning Kooner contrary. Okay, my friends, let me be 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 2: brutally honest with you, like I'm in the confessional. I 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: was gonna lead today's show with the Epstein files and 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: the dump of what is it three million documents and 7 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: photos and videotapes, which is a massive story and deserves, 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 2: you know, honestly, a lot of attention, primarily because it's 9 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: clearly a Democrat scandal. The names now that are being revealed, 10 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: whether they be in the media, in politics, in the 11 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: business world, in Hollywood, it's one prominent Democrat after another. 12 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: And so I was going to obviously talk about that. However, 13 00:00:55,280 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: President Trump on Wednesday, in fact, Wednesday Evening BC News 14 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 2: with Tom Lomis, gave one of the most consequential, important 15 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: interviews I think of his entire presidency and of his 16 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: entire administration, and it made big. It made news, obviously, 17 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: but it should be to me, the biggest story in America, 18 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: There's no question. And the reason why because you may 19 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: be saying, well, Jeff Jee half jehelf, if this thing 20 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: is the biggest story in America. Why aren't so many 21 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: Americans even know about it or even talking about it? 22 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: It's because, Frankly and I feel very sorry for Savannah Guthrie, 23 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: and I feel obviously very sorry for her mom, Nancy Guthrie, 24 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: who appears has been kidnapped and abducted. The media saturation 25 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: coverage of the kidnapping and abduction of Nancy Guthrie, the 26 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: mother of Savannah Guthrie, has now swamped everything else. It 27 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: has pushed everything else off of the news cycle. It 28 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: is twenty four to seven saturation coverage. That's all it 29 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: is now. It's been for what three four five days 30 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: to the point that this massive story, and it is 31 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: a massive story that we are going to be living 32 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: with for the rest of President Trump's term, and the 33 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: consequences in fallout have really outside of some important use 34 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: sites who picked up on it, really has now fallen 35 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: through the cracks. And so let me tell you exactly 36 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: what was said, and then I want to get your 37 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: take six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. 38 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: As you know, there has been a huge public relations 39 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: backlash over the shooting deaths of both Alex Pretty and 40 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: Renee good and so, and obviously violent street protests, riots 41 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: really an insight has broken out in Minneapolis and in 42 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: other parts of Minnesota, but especially in Minneapolis. And so, 43 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: fearing now a blood bath in the midterms, fearing now 44 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 2: that Republicans are losing the immigration war, the pr war, 45 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 2: the political war, President Trump now has decided to make, 46 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: in his words, a strategic shift, and so on Wednesday evening, 47 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 2: in an interview with Tom Lomas, he said that we 48 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: are now going to be putting forth, going forward, a 49 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: new strategy from this point on. He said, Okay, we're 50 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: going to finish Operation Metro Surge in Minneapolis. It's going 51 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: to get completed. We are going to get all of 52 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: these violent, criminal illegal aliens that we set out to capture, detain, 53 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: and eventually deport. They have, by the way, captured and 54 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: detained over four thousand criminal illegal aliens. So even though 55 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: they faced massive obstruction, massive interference, they are still making 56 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: arrests and now we're looking at four thousand arrested and counting. 57 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: But going forward, he says, there's going to be a 58 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 2: new strategy. He will only deploy ICE agents to red states, 59 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: and this is the key to those blue cities. And 60 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 2: blue states that the mayors or governors quote unquote ask 61 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: for ICE agents to come. And as he said, you 62 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: don't have to just request, I want it in writing, 63 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: and you have to say please, don't. You can't just 64 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: say I want them, we need them. It's got to 65 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: be pleased, and it's got to be a written request. 66 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: In other words, going forward, President Trump now says he 67 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: will only send ICE into so called sanctuary cities if 68 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 2: and only if the mayors or the governors specifically invite, 69 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: specifically ask or request for ICE to be deployed. Otherwise, 70 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: he says, I'm not wasting my time. I don't want 71 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 2: to see the images of these street protests and riots. 72 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to see the possibility of activists clashing 73 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: with ICE agents and some of these activists, these anti 74 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: ICE agitators, getting caught up in a scuffle and being shot. 75 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: He said, I don't want these images on the screen. 76 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: It's bad for the country, it's bad for our stability. Frankly, 77 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 2: it's bad for us politically. And so he says that 78 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 2: his strategy now is to make it crystal clear to 79 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: every single blue city mayor and blue city governor now. 80 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: And this applies specifically to Brandon Johnson of Chicago, Mayor 81 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: Michelle Woo of Boston, Mom Donnie of New York City, 82 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: Karen Bass of Los Angeles that he says, we will 83 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: not send in ice agents whatsoever unless you request them 84 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: to come, and we want it in writing. In other words, 85 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: I want to send them to places like New Orleans. 86 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: He mentioned New Orleans and his interview with Lambis or Memphis, Tennessee. 87 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: Even though these tend to be blue cities, they're in 88 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: red states. The mayors are welcoming ice in. They want 89 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 2: ice there. The governors have requested for them to go there. 90 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: They're giving them the proper local law enforcement and state 91 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 2: law enforcement backup to conduct their operations, to share in 92 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 2: important information. He says, So unless we get absolute cooperation 93 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,559 Speaker 2: from mayors and governors predominantly in red states. But okay, fine, 94 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: we'll do it in blue areas. But it's got to 95 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: be with a specific request and an invitation, he said. Otherwise, 96 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: we are not going into these sanctuary jurisdictions. Let those 97 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: mayors and those governors live with the consequences of their 98 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: decision if they want to caudle. This is what Trump 99 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: basically said to Lamas. If they want to caudle murderers 100 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: and rapists, if they want to caudle pedophiles and sex 101 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: and drug traffickers, if they want to see their crime 102 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: rates explode, and he said, that's what's going to happen. 103 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: Their crime rates are going to explode. If they want 104 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: to have more waves of migrants coming into their cities 105 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: as they move from say red states or red jurisdictions 106 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: to these sanctuary jurisdictions, then it's on them, and it's 107 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: on their voters who put them in office. So basically, 108 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: he's saying, you want sanctuary cities, you want these criminals, 109 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: You want this crime, You want this chaos and anarchy 110 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: and lawlessness. You know what you want it, you got it, 111 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: But don't come crying to me when the consequences are 112 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: brutal and devastating and your voters eventually turn against you. 113 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 2: I'm only going to go where I'm wanted and where 114 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: Ice is wanted. Now, let me make two points, and 115 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: then I want to open it up. I'm going to 116 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: place some cuts because I want you to hear it 117 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 2: straight from him. I don't want people to say I'm 118 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: mischaracterizing the president's position because I'm telling you, I'm not 119 00:08:53,880 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: what Trump is calling. This is an invitation only model. 120 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 2: The model now is not mass deportations and deploy ice 121 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 2: wherever they feel as important to nab as many illegal 122 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: alien criminals as possible, whether the mayors or governors want 123 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 2: it or not. It's now invitation only, and he believes 124 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: it's going to be more effective. According to him, tap 125 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: down the temperature. It's going to end a lot of 126 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 2: these street protests and street riots, and he believes in 127 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: the long term it's going to be a more effective strategy. 128 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: Now to many people who like this new shift, their 129 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: argument is he's now meeting the reality of the moment. 130 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 2: Politics is the art of the possible, and so he's 131 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: making a strategic retreat. He's trying to ease political temperatures 132 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: prevent the possibility of more violence. He doesn't want to 133 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 2: see any more Americans citizens get shot or get killed 134 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 2: in confrontations with ICE agents. So if the Blue States 135 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: and the Blue cities really don't want to control their 136 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: criminals and really want to live with illegal criminal migrant crime, 137 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: let them live with the consequences the implications, and then 138 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: clean them out from areas like the Red States where 139 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: people want to see the law enforced. And so Trump 140 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: is playing three D chess. He's out maneuvering the media, 141 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 2: he's out maneuvering the Democrats and these sanctuary jurisdictions. I disagree. 142 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 2: That's the argument that many are making. I hear you, 143 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: but I disagree. I think the president has caved. I 144 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: think this is a massive, important surrender. I think now 145 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: he has reversed his mass deportation policy. And I did 146 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 2: not vote for this. 147 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: You're locked in Boston's bulldozer. The Kooner Report weekend edition, 148 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,599 Speaker 1: The Voice of Boston WRKL