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Speaker 2: Timmy Cheetah at a half hour flim Flam Rights Tim

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Speaker 2: I expect Dan to challenge slash second guests every one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that maybe that's the bit that I have to

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Speaker 4: You know Bill Kennedy, the NBA ref who's injured still,

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Speaker 4: But he does the best challenge explanation men, right, absolutely sensation.

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Speaker 4: Do that with my sons when they're arguing with me

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Speaker 4: You make a couple million bucks every single playoff home games.

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Speaker 4: six o'clock. And the UCLA Bruins.

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Speaker 3: I love this.

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Speaker 4: The UCLA Bruins became the first Big Ten team since

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Speaker 3: And yet they're easily.

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Speaker 2: now does that mean The wolves can't be a factor

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Speaker 2: Let's say a shorter period of, time you find ways

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Speaker 2: a decent number of these. Games we have to. Reconfigure

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Speaker 3: And they are going to turn it.

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Speaker 2: On they are deliberately not playing people that could play

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Speaker 4: No, see here's the, THING i just don't know what

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Speaker 2: Coach and if you if you don't watch your p's and,

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Speaker 2: as always is open at six, four six eighty. Six

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Speaker 2: we are out at six o'clock a little early today For.

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Speaker 2: Michigan could will it be the coronation of an an armor?

441
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 2: Champion we'll find out against The yukon club that has

442
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 2: continued to shock the. World that's the national championship game

443
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 2: of the men's. Side all of the action beginning on

444
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 2: the fan tonight at since we are back last segment

445
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,239
Speaker 2: of the, program because AS i, mentioned we have big

446
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 2: dance stuff coming up at six o'clock this very. Evening

447
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 2: kind enough be joined by Former Jor league baseball Umpire Tim.

448
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 2: Cheetah last time we had him on it was the

449
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: Great Minnesota Get. Together and now we are in studio

450
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 2: and let me guss are you are you working the bar?

451
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 3: Tonight what's your current. STATUS i am, NOT i am.

452
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 5: NOT i am working my television right now And i'm.

453
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 5: Watching I'm i'm binge watching.

454
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 3: Suits, interesting very. Interesting will you be watching The Twins tigers?

455
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 3: Tonight The twins And.

456
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 5: Tigers that's a good. Question we have a national championship

457
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 5: game to think.

458
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 3: About that's a great.

459
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 2: Point that is a great. POINT i was just testing.

460
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,160
Speaker 2: IT i was just testing you a little.

461
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 3: BIT A, yeah, well you, know are The?

462
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 5: Tigers is it here or?

463
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 3: THERE i think it's. Here, YEAH i think the homestand, Continues,

464
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 3: yeah pretty.

465
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 5: Sure, YEAH i think you're.

466
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 2: Right AND i just assumed that right now you can't

467
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 2: get enough of the ball strike, system in the in

468
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 2: the appeals system that has been brought, engineered brought Into

469
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 2: Major League, baseball as we talked about at the. Fair

470
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 2: what are your early what is your early reaction here

471
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 2: now that we knew it was, coming but now it's upon.

472
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 5: Us, well my reaction is pretty much WHAT i, anticipated

473
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 5: and that is that the, catchers the number of challenges

474
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 5: made by catchers has a higher percentage of accuracy hitters and.

475
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 5: Pitchers AND i said that all along primarily because the

476
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 5: catcher is shoulder square to the pitcher facing straight. Forward,

477
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 5: hitters of, course are standing off to one, side and

478
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 5: the pictures when they fall off the, mount be it

479
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 5: left handed or right, handed they're not looking straight in.

480
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 5: Either and the catcher has the same view as the,

481
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 5: umpire and he also is working alongside that, umpire so

482
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 5: he's already familiar with his tendencies and anything that can

483
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 5: go along with. That that being, said IF i were

484
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 5: a major league manager, TODAY i would prohibit my hitters

485
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 5: and my pictures from ever challenging in a game UNTIL

486
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 5: i give you the green, light and that green light

487
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 5: is going to be maybe the seventh, inning eighth inning.

488
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 5: ON i see a lot of challenges wasted early in,

489
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 5: games particularly by, hitters and people forget pictures and hitters

490
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 5: are more emotional and they've got skin in the. Game

491
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 5: they think everything they throws a, strike and a hitter

492
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 5: thinks every pitch he takes is a. Ball and you,

493
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 5: know when you see these these, breakdowns you know when

494
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,479
Speaker 5: they show you the THREE d and all that, stuff

495
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 5: you talk about pitches that are you, know a sixteenth

496
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,239
Speaker 5: of an inch either on the plate or just off the.

497
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 5: Plate you, go all, right that's just a. Guess, man

498
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 5: nobody's that. Good no hitter is that good to, say,

499
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 5: oh that ball was clearly. Outside now he's, hoping he's

500
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 5: hoping it was. Outside and the OTHER i think the

501
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 5: other ramification that will will, occur AND i don't think

502
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 5: it's in the not to just in, future is THAT

503
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 5: i think you're going to see some confrontations in dugouts

504
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 5: between players really because, oh, sure because a guy comes

505
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 5: back and, says, hey, man you just burned up one

506
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 5: of our challenges in the first. Inning all, right it's

507
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 5: the first, inning all, right and you know what about my?

508
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 5: Challenges you? Know And i'm telling you it'll happen BECAUSE

509
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 5: i watched these, games and going back to WHEN i

510
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 5: first broke, in was when they started to put televisions

511
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 5: in the umpire stressing room along WITH vhs. Recorders and

512
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 5: this is back in the early, eighties, right and we

513
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 5: would watch games like if we're on The West, coast,

514
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 5: okay we're in the locker room and there's a there's

515
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 5: a game ON tv and they're in the seventh inning

516
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 5: In New york Or boston or someplace in The east

517
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 5: or The central time, zone and hit HER a or

518
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 5: hit HER b would would step up to the plate

519
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 5: and he'd take a, Pitch manny shake his head and

520
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 5: step out and we would just laugh because it's the same.

521
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 5: Guys it's always the same. Guys it's the same two

522
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 5: or three guys on every team that just they're what

523
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 5: we call non. Believers they don't believe anything you call

524
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 5: until they've had a chance to go look at it

525
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 5: after that at bat and go up into the clubhouse

526
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 5: and look at, say, OH i guess you're, right you.

527
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 5: Know and then they'll come up the next time and,

528
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 5: say you, KNOW i looked at that pitch AND i

529
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 5: guess it was a.

530
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 3: Strike you.

531
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 5: Know you, go, YEAH i told you that. ONCE i

532
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 5: already told you, that you, Know and that's that's what.

533
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 5: Happened it's going to. Happen AND i think, MANAGERS i

534
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 5: remember what was it was it last year or two

535
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 5: years ago On Terry francona when he went to The

536
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 5: reds and they were testing out the system in spring,

537
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 5: training And francona ordered his, TEAM i don't want any.

538
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 5: CHALLENGES i don't want to see who can challenge the system.

539
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 5: HERE i want to see guys who can play. Ball

540
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 5: that's why you're, Here so leave it, alone and we'll

541
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 5: cross that bridge when we get. There BUT i just

542
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 5: see burning up these challenges early in ball games is

543
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 5: going to create. Problems the other problems Are, okay everybody

544
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 5: who watches the news or follows baseball at all will

545
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 5: talk about the game that Cbe buckner had the other,

546
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 5: night and he.

547
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 3: Already got five for you on.

548
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 2: It, yeah they were, ready AND i got five of

549
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 2: them just waiting.

550
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 3: After, Yeah i'm.

551
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 5: Sure and, okay so he had eight challenges and six were.

552
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 5: OVERTURNED i didn't look that close to, that But i'll

553
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 5: bet you anything that if you added up the inches

554
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 5: or the fractioned inches total to those six, overturns it

555
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 5: would be probably a little more than one inch and

556
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 5: less than two inches in total. Distance, Okay so nobody's that.

557
00:28:55,120 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 5: Good and it's again it's they're going to challenge you

558
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 5: based on their emotion versus their actual knowledge of the strike.

559
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 5: Zone because Even Ted williams didn't know the strike. Zone

560
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 5: the rod true didn't know the strike zone as well

561
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 5: as these machines. Do and, that of, course is assuming

562
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 5: that the technology is, accurate because they're getting a total,

563
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 5: credibility and you, know the other the other TECHNOLOGY i

564
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 5: always refer to As, OKAY i have a i have

565
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 5: a twenty twenty four. Vehicle i've got three speedometers on.

566
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 5: It i've got a, dial AND i have a. Digital

567
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 5: and then IF i set my, CREWS i have another,

568
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 5: digital and it's three different speeds When i'm When i'm going,

569
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 5: on it's it's got three different numbers on. It and

570
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 5: then IF i go through one of those areas where

571
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 5: the you, know the sign is flashing your, speed your,

572
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 5: Speed NOW i got. Four, now NOW i don't. CARE

573
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 5: i don't care which one it. Is they can't all be,

574
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 5: right all? Right which one are we going to go?

575
00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 5: With AND i still believe that that the network are

576
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 5: going to want more of a say in which system

577
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 5: is in. Use so the people in charge of the game,

578
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 5: today very, few if, any have really been on a field,

579
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 5: before and they kind of market themselves as. Well most

580
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 5: of them are, lawyers and this isn't a shot at,

581
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 5: lawyers but they kind of market themselves as people who

582
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 5: can we can fix, anything we can solve any. Problem

583
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 5: and here's the problem we got To, well the strike

584
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 5: zone is a big controversial thing right, Now no it's.

585
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 5: Not i'm telling you it's. Not if you just leave

586
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 5: it up to the umpires the, players they'll adjust and

587
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 5: leave it all. Alone AND i JUST i don't see

588
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 5: how it adds, to you, know the the enjoyment of

589
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 5: watching the game on. TELEVISION i don't see. It and

590
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 5: it's not Because i'm a former. Umpire it's just like

591
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 5: you're complicating something that is very simple and let's just

592
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 5: leave it. There one thing's for, Sure, dan they're not

593
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 5: Gonna they're not gonna to help me.

594
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: Out, no they're definitely not going.

595
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: To but but but to your point on, this, Uh

596
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: i've said this already a couple of, times watching parts

597
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: of a number of different. Games we've already created a

598
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 2: culture with this thing where there are fans more entertained

599
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: and fascinated by getting the call overturned and they are

600
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: somebody hitting a double or or. There it's it's bizarre

601
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: to me how that's, become because there's so many pitches

602
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: in a, game, right and there could be a million,

603
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: CHALLENGES i guess if you want, To and it's almost

604
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: like they're the brains are already being rewired to to

605
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: spend more time on and get more enjoyment out of

606
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: something that has nothing to do with.

607
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 5: Baseball, no, No and it's, uh it's hard to. Watch

608
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 5: far thank it's hard to. Watch AND i still love.

609
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 5: Baseball i'm not some you, know bitter old, guys, right you,

610
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 5: know it's not the way it was WHEN i was.

611
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 5: THERE i still love the game AND i always. Will

612
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 5: but this just doesn't. Belong and, again going act to

613
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 5: the pitcher and the hitter have a terrible view of,

614
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 5: it each one of, them and they've got skin in the.

615
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 5: Game and then IF i were a, manager and WHEN

616
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,239
Speaker 5: i say skin in the, game it means that a

617
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 5: particular pitch may or may not contribute to their personal. Statistics, yep,

618
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 5: OKAY i should have had a strike out when it

619
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 5: turns out. Okay so If i'm a manager, Again i'll

620
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 5: give it to my. Catcher i'll let him, go and

621
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 5: Then i'll even tell HIM i don't want you challenge

622
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 5: it unless you know we're going to get it out

623
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 5: out of, it meaning you, know meaning it was a

624
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 5: two strike pitch that was called a ball and makes

625
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 5: a three to two or or it should have been

626
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 5: called the strike and we would have got the guy strike.

627
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 5: Out go, ahead go, ahead take a run at. It But,

628
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 5: otherwise if it's gonna you, know even up the count

629
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 5: or do something like, that leave it. Alone just just

630
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 5: leave it alone and save it for when you're really

631
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:50,719
Speaker 5: gonna need.

632
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 3: It well you know what you're.

633
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: PREDICTING i think is similar to WHAT i got into

634
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: the other, day which is the way this is shut.

635
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: Up if the the challenges are used up, earlier that

636
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: you know what the outcry is going to, be because

637
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: there's going to be a big call with the bases

638
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: loaded and you, know two out in the eighth, inning

639
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: it's going to be two challenges not. Enough you've got

640
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: to have more challenges because this is there's no way

641
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: for these these these hitters or pitchers or catchers to

642
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: know when the most strategic moment is to use. Them

643
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: and by, god we got to have more, challenges and

644
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: eventually it'll be they should have as many as You

645
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: you should have as many challenges as you. Need that's

646
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: WHY i almost, think and maybe we talked about this

647
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: at The State, fair aren't we on the way to

648
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: the next step being the middleman is cut out the

649
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: home plate umpire and we're.

650
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: Just going to go to the.

651
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: Machines and this is just a sort of wet the,

652
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: appetite and they they know when they made this, move

653
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: there's going to be too many controversies about how many

654
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: challenges we have and how many we need and squandering

655
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: them or whether you have enough left when the game's

656
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: in the. Line so it's, like all, right we're just

657
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: gonna go to the machinery start to. Finish that, way

658
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 2: we don't have to worry about those kinds of challenges at. All,

659
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: right that's What that's where we're inevitably, heading aren't. WE I.

660
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 5: I just tremble at the. Thought please tell me that

661
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 5: isn't the next. Step gosh help us. All but the

662
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 5: other thing that's gonna come, out and that, is, okay

663
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 5: the teams still have access to video in the dugout.

664
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 5: Area because they have they can challenge judgment, plays you,

665
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 5: know on the basis stirpal calls a catcher at.

666
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 3: No catch in the.

667
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 5: Outfield whatever they, have they still have that close, by, Right,

668
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 5: well who's down there monitoring this and they're gonna. Cheat

669
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 5: they're gonna find a way to you, Know, Okay, dan

670
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 5: you're up to, bat and this guy's down there watching the.

671
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 5: Thing he, goes h that pitch is close enough to challenge,

672
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 5: it and somebody will go with or they, eddy they'll say,

673
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 5: something but that's that's the key. Word yes and that

674
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 5: and then you're going to tap your helmet And. Sahl trust,

675
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 5: me every rule that has ever been put in place

676
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 5: In Major League, baseball somebody tries to beat, it no,

677
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 5: question try to find they learn what it, is and

678
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 5: then they try to cheat the other, way and they're all.

679
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 5: Guilty it's just it's it's human nature when it when

680
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 5: it comes to. Sports you, know whatever the rules, are

681
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 5: they want to push it to the limit and find

682
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 5: out what those limits. Are AND i just, SEE i

683
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 5: see more problems THAN i see.

684
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 2: Solutions, Yeah i'm with you on, That AND i think

685
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: you raise a really valid point regarding some managers maybe

686
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: reaching the, edicts stag or they don't don't even think,

687
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 2: about you, know challenging early because it makes a lot

688
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 2: of sense to me under the current. System let me

689
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,959
Speaker 2: get to a couple of, texts, right will you Ask

690
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 2: tim if the umpires are being graded by THE abs,

691
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 2: system the TWO d zone from the middle of the,

692
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 2: plate or THE mlb, system which he describes as the

693
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: THREE d.

694
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 3: Zone do you know the answer to?

695
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 5: That as far AS i, know it's it's not the,

696
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 5: replace it's not the. Challenge it's the original evaluation, system

697
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 5: which has a slight margin for air on the part

698
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 5: of the. Umpire it's not this this you know micro,

699
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 5: inch you know these little bitty things that you. Go

700
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 5: is that touching that? Box is it?

701
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 3: NOT i.

702
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 5: CAN'T i can't quite. Tell, boy it looks really. Close you,

703
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 5: know they're not being they're not being evaluated that what's

704
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 5: the word so? Finite it's it's a little bit better than.

705
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 3: That.

706
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, so and then somebody asked me the other, day you,

707
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 5: know did you go to the? OPENER i went to thirty,

708
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 5: openers AND i had better seats THAT i could have

709
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 5: got for the other. Day SO i decided to, No

710
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 5: i'll stay home and watch it ON.

711
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: Tv but, UNDERSTANDABLE i don't.

712
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 5: KNOW i, again like you, say you've got the crowd

713
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 5: now already they they've already figured it. Out you, know

714
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 5: they'll see. It they don't they know first of, all

715
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 5: they know what the what the? Uh the challenge title? Is,

716
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 5: Okay taddy tattoos. Home, Okay so now every all eyes

717
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 5: on the, scoreboard, yes, okay and now they're going to

718
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 5: play a video game here for you, know for the

719
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 5: next fifteen seconds or twenty, seconds and then we're going

720
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 5: to go back to live. Action allow sounds like fun to.

721
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: Me here's another.

722
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: Text what Does tim think will happen regarding sinker pitches

723
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: that are high at the front end of the plate

724
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: but drop down for a strike in the back lumps

725
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: need to adjust or does the technology need to?

726
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 5: Improve the technology needs to. Improve And i'll tell you

727
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,959
Speaker 5: why that. Is one of the things about electronic ball

728
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 5: strike calling is it is physically possible in, many many

729
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 5: different ways for a curveball or a breaking, pitch a split,

730
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 5: finger any of those pitches that break. Down it is

731
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 5: very possible for those pitches to pass through the strike

732
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 5: zone and.

733
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 3: Bounce and if.

734
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 5: You're ON piret and you call a pitch a strike that,

735
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 5: bounces you're going to need an armed est court to

736
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 5: get out of. There it's just the players will not

737
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 5: accept that because the pitch is. Unhittable and when speaking

738
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 5: of hittable and, unhittable you, know you look at these

739
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 5: like the outside corner and you're seeing this little bitty

740
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 5: bitty bitty you know distance that's a hittable. Pitch that's

741
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 5: right on a fat part of the.

742
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 3: Bat.

743
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 5: Right it's, not as we, say taking the bat out

744
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 5: of the hitter's. Hands they can hit, that and they

745
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 5: can hit that a long. Ways but the breaking ball

746
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 5: has always been the, issue and it just has to

747
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 5: be presented and you got to catch. It you have

748
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 5: to catch it in. Flight and even if you're catching

749
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 5: it and shoving it down a little, bit you can't

750
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 5: get away with calling that a. Strike you're going to

751
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 5: run somebody just they just won't accept, it simply will

752
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 5: not accept.

753
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 3: That let's, SEE i had a couple more.

754
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: Texts, oh wouldn't the umpire's benefit from knowing which pitch

755
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 2: is about to be? Thrown seems there has to be

756
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: a way to loop them into the PitchCom.

757
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 3: Systems doesn't make any sense.

758
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 5: To, You, no it just reminds me of back in

759
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 5: my early days In CLASS a. Ball one, TIME i

760
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 5: don't KNOW i. WAS i had to get out there,

761
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 5: pitching and he threw a lot of curve balls AND

762
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 5: i was not calling too many of them stretch and

763
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 5: his manager yelled out of his. Sketch he, goes tell

764
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 5: him it's, coming, okay all, RIGHT i get. IT i get.

765
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 5: It but, so, YEAH i don't know if there's a

766
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 5: way for him to let me know without the hit

767
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 5: or seeing him touch my kin guard or something like.

768
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 5: That you, KNOW i guess stranger things have been thought.

769
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 5: Of so who AM i to?

770
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: Say adam And white Bear lake he wants to? Know

771
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 2: can you ask him when we order? It, giggles campfire

772
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: grill at the fair if we can challenge if we

773
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: feel that One walleye bite might be slightly less batter

774
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: than the.

775
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 3: Others That's adam And white Bear lake.

776
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 5: That I'm i'm a beer, Guy so you got to

777
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 5: take that to jem, Okay giggles is he's in charge

778
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 5: of any and all fish that makes.

779
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: It there you, go he would be the one be

780
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: the one to. Know so it sounds like you got

781
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 2: national championship on your mind, tonight which you, know, Yeah

782
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 2: i'm with you on, that and then you can maybe

783
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: switch back over to the uh the baseball we had

784
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 2: a power, failure you know for the home, opener the

785
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: every you, know they was ACTUALLY.

786
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 5: I was actually working at Man oh you, were? OKAY i, was, yeah,

787
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 5: yeah AND i got pushed back to you, know the

788
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 5: starting time to push. Back so it was actually WHILE

789
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 5: i was on the clock and, uh being Good, friday

790
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 5: we were, busy but not as busy as. Normal but

791
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 5: but it was a good, night you, know it was

792
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 5: a really good. Night we got actually chance to see the.

793
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 3: Game, yeah so, yeah it all worked.

794
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 5: Out.

795
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: Well, hey you have any advice for the en THE

796
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: nfl officials who right, now, uh there seems to be

797
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 2: an impasse between them and THE nfl the. League there's

798
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: even talk of potentially a lockout in this, case and

799
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 2: people think the division's pretty.

800
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 3: Big what's what's your?

801
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: Best you've been through a few labor, CRISES i, think

802
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 2: after what was it twenty seven years in the major, Leagues,

803
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 2: Yeah i've been.

804
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 3: Through if you what's your best advice for the folks.

805
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 2: Who are running things from THE nfl official referee.

806
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 5: Side, well WHEN i first broke, in we used to

807
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 5: negotiate a minimum salary versus minimum, salary meaning if the

808
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 5: minimum player salary was x amount of, dollars then the

809
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 5: minimum umpire salary was a percentage of, that, okay and

810
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 5: then we basically just kind of piggybacked along as player

811
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 5: salaries escalated and, escalated and then once the minimum player

812
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 5: salary got to be close to a half a million.

813
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 5: Dollars then we negotiated the other. Direction we, Went, okay

814
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 5: if the guy that just got here last, week who's

815
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 5: nineteen years, old he's got three at bat is making

816
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 5: a half a, million how much is a twenty year umpire.

817
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 5: Worth we don't know the answer to. That but if

818
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 5: you're going to use that guy for the postseasons and

819
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 5: The World series and all these other, things you, know

820
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 5: we've got some parameters to work. With i'm not. SURE

821
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 5: i couldn't tell you you the top and bottom numbers

822
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 5: for THE. NFL i don't really. KNOW i, KNOW i

823
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 5: remember years back when When Ed hockeley was the president of.

824
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 5: Association of Course ed was an, attorney and they wanted

825
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 5: to they had this big push to make them all full.

826
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 5: Time well they only work once a, week, okay so full?

827
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 5: Time what are you gonna? Do practice? Facility, yeah you,

828
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 5: know and if that's the, case you, know a guy Like,

829
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 5: hockey if you want him to give up a you,

830
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 5: know a half million dollar your job as an, attorney

831
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 5: how much are you going to pay him in THE

832
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 5: nfl to make it worth his? While so that's always,

833
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 5: been you, know kind of a sticking point for, them

834
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 5: primarily because unlike THE, nhl THE nba And Major League,

835
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 5: baseball you, know those guys play eighty some games that

836
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 5: we play one hundred and sixty. Two so it's it's

837
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 5: going to have to just, be you, know a flat

838
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 5: fee per game based on your years of, service, right you,

839
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 5: know your first year you're gonna get. This next, year

840
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 5: you're gonna go up to, that up to, that and

841
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 5: so on and so, forth and Then i'm sure they.

842
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 5: Do NOW i can't speak one hundred percent, accurately BUT

843
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 5: i know that a referee is going to make more

844
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 5: money than a headline or.

845
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 3: You, know, yeah sure, right makes that sort of.

846
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 5: Thing so, YEAH i wish them the. Best there's plenty out,

847
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 5: there you, know there's plenty of it out, there And

848
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 5: i'm sure when it all comes, down they'll do.

849
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: Fine we are against the, clock. Unfortunately it's always good

850
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: to catch, up my. Friend we'll be in touch as

851
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: the baseball season plays, out because you know there's gonna

852
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: be plenty of crises down the road regarding the home plate. System,

853
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 2: well we will be pestering, you that's for. Sure good

854
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: to hear.

855
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 3: You. Man always a pleasure and always.

856
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 5: A pleasure thanks my.

857
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 3: Friend, okay appreciate.

858
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 2: You Tim, cheetah Former Major League baseball umpire FOR i

859
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: believe twenty seven years a terrific. Career we are out

860
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 2: of time because we got a big dance pregame show

861
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: to get to Via Westwood One men's basketball championship. Game

862
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: we're back tomorrow With louis among. Others thank you To RANDY,

863
00:43:55,600 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 2: K Johnny, athletic And Tim. Cheetah today all podcastable and

864
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 2: we will talk to you tomorrow beginning at three