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Speaker 2: Welcome into the Monday Midday Quarterback. How about the bear Cats?

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Speaker 3: Baby, let's get it started. Here on a Monday, A

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Speaker 3: lot's a lot to discuss.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 3: We're frustrated, we're mad, we're angry, but the show goes on.

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Speaker 3: We're not stopping.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: We turn the heat up even more. We've got a

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Speaker 3: Bengals loss to break down. I think the term demoralizing

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Speaker 3: is pretty much the easiest way to look at what

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Speaker 3: happened yesterday, because, for the first time I think ever

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Speaker 3: watching a Bengals game that I can remember, I truly

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Speaker 3: didn't feel like they had a chance to win by

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Speaker 3: the time the ball was kicked off to the time

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Speaker 3: the game ended. Just never felt like they were a

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Speaker 3: threat to win the game yesterday. And I think that

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Speaker 3: is a failure on so many levels based on how

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Speaker 3: the roster has been built, how they've been coached, and

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Speaker 3: how they've been executing. We're gonna talk a lot about

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Speaker 3: Duke Tobin, We're gonna talk a lot about Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 3: At some point players got to execute as well. Now,

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Speaker 3: who is putting those players in the opportunities to execute?

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Speaker 3: Who is deciding which players have the best chance to execute?

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Speaker 2: Fair?

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Speaker 3: That is coaching, and I one hundred percent get it.

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Speaker 3: But we have a lot to sift through today. We

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Speaker 3: can play the wheel of blame game. I asked last night,

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Speaker 3: got a lot of responses, and I feel like every

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Speaker 3: response is about the same between Zach and Duke Tobin.

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Speaker 3: You can individually talk about position groups like the O

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Speaker 3: line and the play of the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: But one of the.

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Speaker 3: Things I'm gonna drive home today, Austin, and I want

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Speaker 3: to get your thought on it as well. I just

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Speaker 3: did another series of video breakdowns on x Tony Underscore

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Speaker 3: Pike fifteen. You can go watch him, and in a

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Speaker 3: lot of those breakdowns, there are plays to be made,

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Speaker 3: and Jake Browning just isn't making them. Whether it's a

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Speaker 3: poor throw or a poor read, he's not making the throws.

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Speaker 3: So you could say, well, then it's on the job

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Speaker 3: of the quarterback. But Austin, who has been the biggest

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Speaker 3: supporter of the quarterback, Zach Taylor, the head Zach Taylor

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Speaker 3: football team, you're putting him out there. You're saying that, Hey,

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Speaker 3: I'm putting my stake in this guy, and he's letting

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Speaker 3: you down. And he did so after the game again

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Speaker 3: and talking more about Yeah, we've got trust, We've got faith.

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Speaker 2: Ins in Jake Browning.

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Speaker 3: That to me is a miss, and not to me

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Speaker 3: is why the seat for Zach Taylor right now is

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Speaker 3: scorching hot?

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Speaker 2: Scorching hot for us or hit the fan base, hit.

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Speaker 3: The breaking news sounder. You just said, what scorching hot

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Speaker 3: for us? So that would mean me and me, you

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Speaker 3: us together?

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Speaker 5: You.

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Speaker 2: I feel like Zach Taylor should no longer be the

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Speaker 2: head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals. Oh my goodness, Now

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Speaker 2: I say that knowing that it will be at least

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Speaker 2: at least seven to ten days before we we get

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Speaker 2: to that point. I think if I were circling a

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Speaker 2: because if the current trend continues, which is at the

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Speaker 2: Bengals are fourteen and a half point underdogs at Green Bay,

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Speaker 2: and then they have a standalone Thursday night game at home,

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Speaker 2: and the Bengals continue to be embarrassed the way that

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Speaker 2: they have been embarrassed, I don't know how you can

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Speaker 2: justify bringing Zach Taylor back. So this is this is flooring.

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Speaker 2: I thinkbelievable. More than anything that the straw that's that

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Speaker 2: broke the camel's back for me yesterday was the way

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Speaker 2: And I'm not afraid to say, hand up, I was

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Speaker 2: because the offensive line was playing so poorly and blah

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Speaker 2: this show and on your Twitter account. There are plays

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Speaker 2: so on one hand, I can look at that and say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Zach Taylor is putting guys in the right position, and

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Speaker 2: if he had a quarterback to operate the offense more efficiently,

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Speaker 2: maybe some of these games are different. But I also

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Speaker 2: look at the way Jake Browning played yesterday in one

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Speaker 2: of the worst quarterback performances I have ever seen by

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Speaker 2: slamming his hands into his helmet, grabbing onto his face,

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Speaker 2: what the kids call these days a mente B, which

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Speaker 2: is a mental breakdown. I thought to myself, Zach Taylor

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Speaker 3: My fear from yesterday though, is Hey, they played good

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Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter. You know we're figuring some stuff out.

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Speaker 3: Gained some confidence there on the fourth Austin, how many

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Speaker 3: least three? I would think you think in the they

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter, when they led twenty eight to three after three,

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Speaker 2: Probably not.

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Speaker 3: Do you think they were just going to make sure

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Speaker 2: The long touchdown by Jamar Chase sixty four yarder a

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Speaker 3: To put it into perspective on on I guess how

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Speaker 3: bad it was. Before that fourth quarter, Jamar Chase caught

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Speaker 3: six passes for one hundred and ten yards and two touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: But Austin, if you look at the insights, most of

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Speaker 3: he had four catches in ninety seven yards on off

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Speaker 2: That's not great, not great.

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Speaker 3: Chase brown Austin yesterday had seven catches for twenty one yards.

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Speaker 3: Detroit knew the checkdown was coming, they defended it when

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Speaker 3: opportunities presented themselves. Jake Brownie neither missed the read or

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Speaker 3: missed the throw. There was a questionable flea flicker called

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Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter. Austin, you pointed out today, and

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Speaker 3: it's what I imagined yesterday. They don't line up under center much,

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Speaker 3: must have thought that Detroit was going to bite up

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Speaker 3: on the under center run on a flea flicker, and

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Speaker 3: then Orlando Brown Junior just whiffs and it's a complete disaster.

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Speaker 3: But there's so many holes, and there are so many questions.

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Speaker 3: There's not a lot of talent on this team. There

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Speaker 3: talent from the eleven on defense and the eleven on offense.

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Speaker 3: I thought special teams was poor yesterday. Again, we'll talk

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Speaker 3: about the defense, who I thought at times competed. I

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Speaker 3: Detroit needed to go get points and when Detroit felt threatened,

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Speaker 3: they walked right down the field and got points. So

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Speaker 3: I don't know how to feel about the defense. The

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Speaker 3: d line I thought was better for sacks seven quarterback hits.

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Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson played well. We'll talk about snap count, takeaways

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Speaker 3: Taylor and Jake Browning more Austin before the touchdown for

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Speaker 3: the Bengals, nineteen straight possessions without a touchdown in the

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Speaker 3: National Football League, nineteen straight possessions. At one point, Jamar

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Speaker 3: Chase was tied for the team lead in tackles with

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Speaker 3: had more interceptions than yards per completion, and they're a

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Speaker 3: fourteen and a half point underdog at Green Bay. As

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Speaker 3: you mentioned, there is so much to sift through for

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Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals, and we'll do so for much of today. Also,

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Speaker 3: we would be remissed Austin not to mention the Bearcats

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Speaker 3: who beat Iowa State thirty eight to thirty.

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Speaker 2: They were up thirty eight.

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Speaker 3: To seven at one point on the fourteenth ranked team

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Speaker 3: what I watch on Sundays with the Bengals. It was

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Speaker 3: one of the most dominant and physical offensive line performances

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Speaker 3: We're gonna out physical you, we're going to out scheme you,

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Speaker 3: an eighty two yard to Caleb Goodie when the team

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Speaker 3: needed it. The most phenomenal, phenomenal win for the UC Bearcats.

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Speaker 3: They are ten and a half point favorite right now

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Speaker 3: Knights coming into Knippert Stadium. That is a noon start,

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Speaker 3: and the Bearcats right now apevol ap pole is out.

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Speaker 3: They are twenty sixth technically in the Ape Pole, so

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Speaker 3: just outside the top twenty five. Somehow Austin they are

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Speaker 3: still ranked behind Iowa State and Penn State somehow still

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Speaker 2: Oh man doesn't get anywhere rank. He did say something

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Speaker 2: about the travel post game. Oh yeah, it's tough. I mean,

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Speaker 2: obviously a tough place to play there in the Rose

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Speaker 2: Bowl at about fourteen percent capacity with UCLA and what

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Speaker 2: seventeen thousand people there or something like that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he is the Penn State coach forever. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to the crowd at the University of Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Nippert Stadium was fantastic. On Saturday, we'll talk more about

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Speaker 3: the Bearcats. FC Cincinnati wins over New York one to

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Speaker 3: oh over the weekend. They host Montreal on October eighteenth,

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Speaker 3: but they can no longer clinch the supporter Shield that

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Speaker 3: was clinched by Philly. But FC Cincinnati did win their

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Speaker 3: match over the weekend as well. MLB Playoffs Dodgers come

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Speaker 3: from behind to beat the Philadelphia Phillies. They're up one

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Speaker 3: to oher in their series. The Blue Jays have dominated

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Speaker 3: They're up two to OHO on the Yankees Tigers Mariners.

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Speaker 3: Tigers win Game one and eleven innings on the road.

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Speaker 3: They get skewball in Game two, but the Mariners find

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Speaker 3: wonder Austin in today's chaos, which is college football the

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Speaker 3: Welcome back Monday Midday Quarterback ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Days.

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Speaker 3: That's so funny man, I'm just thinking about the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Like, what what are you thinking about? Just laugh? Play calls,

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Speaker 2: play designs, the flea flicker. Mostly, Yeah, that wasn't good.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with the defense overall, fourteen points at the half,

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Speaker 3: feel though every time Detroit needed to go and get

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Speaker 2: They didn't get embarrassed. I thought there were some good starts,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Detroit's one of the best offenses in the

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Speaker 2: And I never really felt like it got that way.

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Speaker 2: I think Josh Newton has a problem covering NFL wide receivers.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Logan Wilson went from getting his naps taken away

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Speaker 2: He looked slow to me. Yep, looked a little bit

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Speaker 2: Jackson meme where he says, what happened to the game

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Speaker 2: I love? I was looking at Logan Wilson just getting

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Speaker 3: Do you know that, Uh, Joseph Osai actually had more

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Speaker 2: I don't understand that. And I understand Trey at one

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Speaker 2: Exactly? You you have got.

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Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson maybe, uh, but I believe he's got elevators

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Speaker 3: Well on the other side, Cam Sample thirty two percent

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Logan Wilson played one hundred percent of the snaps.

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Speaker 2: So with Oron Burks, I thought he would play a

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Speaker 3: dropping the coverage on the tight ends and then I'm

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Speaker 3: seeing linebackers matching up with Aman Ross Saint Brown. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: make those ideas make sense.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't. It does not make sense. And you drafted

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Speaker 2: these linebackers DK, Darius Knight Junior, Dimitrius Night Junior, and

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Speaker 2: Barrett Carter because of their ability in pass coverage. So

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Speaker 2: here's the thought, let's use him in pass coach. Oh no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: Offensively quick snap count takeaway, they went far less twelve

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Speaker 3: personnel this game than they have in any other game

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Speaker 3: this year. Yoshi vash played eighty seven percent of yesterday snaps,

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Speaker 3: Jamar Chase ninety two. You'd never guess this. Austin T.

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Speaker 3: Higgins only missed two snaps in the game, yet they

446
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Speaker 3: couldn't find a way to get him the a catch

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Speaker 3: more than three times for twenty two yards. That's a

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Speaker 3: whole other conversation that we're gonna have to have. But

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Speaker 3: Mike Kasicki only played fifty percent of the snaps, Drew

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Speaker 3: Sample forty four percent, Noah Fan twenty four percent. Tanner

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Speaker 3: Hudson played one snap. Far less twelve personnel seemed to

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Speaker 3: be one of the adjustments that the Bengals were gonna

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Speaker 3: try yesterday. I don't think we saw really any improvement

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Speaker 3: from them going with twelve to them not going with

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Speaker 3: twelve personnel. The only other thing to me that stood

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Speaker 3: out outside of that one rep by Dalton Reisner Chase

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Speaker 3: Brown fifty three percent of the snaps, Samaj p Ryan

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Speaker 3: forty seven percent, almost a fifty to fifty split between

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Speaker 3: Chase Brown and Samaj p Ryan.

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Speaker 2: And it's not like Samaj was in there just a

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Speaker 2: pass blot.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 2: He ran the football four times for twenty seven yards

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Speaker 2: and Chase Brown ran the football eight times for twenty

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Speaker 2: seven yards. I thought Samaj looked pretty good running the ball.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I don't know exactly how there's so

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Speaker 2: many plays that you can go through and say, okay, well,

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Speaker 2: if this person had gotten his block, Chase Brown might

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Speaker 2: score a touchdown. And you don't always say that with

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Speaker 2: a guy like Samaj jp Ryan. But I thought he

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Speaker 2: performed well, especially on special teams. Brought the wood on

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Speaker 2: Khalif Raymond, which was pretty cool to see. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean I thought it was a tough stat line.

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Speaker 2: Chase Brown had seven catches for twenty one yards. Three

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Speaker 2: yards of catch.

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Speaker 3: That tells me Jake Browning just trying to dump it

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Speaker 3: down and the defense was like, okay, we know that's coming.

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Speaker 2: You could if Jake Browning could process even at a

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Speaker 2: fraction faster, that might be seven catches for eighty yards.

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Speaker 9: Yep.

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Speaker 3: It's like the times he has a chance to throw

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Speaker 3: to Chase Brown, he's late and the times that he

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Speaker 3: does throw to Chase Brown he misses somebody else.

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Speaker 2: That's what is so good about Joe Burrow, and Joe

485
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Speaker 2: always talks about the idea of just finding completions. Joe

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Speaker 2: is superpower is that ability to process at the snap? Okay,

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Speaker 2: not there, not their checkdown and you get the ball

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Speaker 2: to Chase Brown, or you get the ball to Drew Sample,

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Speaker 2: or you get the ball to somebody coming out of

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Speaker 2: the backfield quickly enough that then go get your four

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Speaker 2: or five yards and keep you ahead of the sticks.

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Speaker 2: Jake Browning, it's like he'll wait and wait and wait

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Speaker 2: and wait. Is anybody can come up? Okay, now I'll

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Speaker 2: check it down. By that point, they're already moving in

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Speaker 2: position to bring your your ball carrier down. And then

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Speaker 2: the situation late in the game where he threw the

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Speaker 2: interception to Alex Anzeloni. You know, I've never played quarterback

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Speaker 2: in the National Football League like you have, but I

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Speaker 2: do think I probably could have gotten back to my

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Speaker 2: checkdown and thrown it there. And the way for Jake

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Speaker 2: Browning did because that took so long.

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Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, one of your checkdowns on

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Speaker 3: that play was Jamar Chase separation.

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Speaker 2: What are we doing? It's frustrating. Demetrius and I had

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Speaker 2: how many snaps?

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Speaker 3: Again, Demetrious percentage uhift eight percent?

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Speaker 2: And you know he led the team in tackles. Oh

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Speaker 2: maybe that Warrant's playing more a TfL as well.

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Speaker 3: You know he he he played uh twenty six less

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Speaker 3: snaps than Logan Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Jamar Chase had more tackles than Trey Henderson yesterday. Actually,

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Speaker 2: can I read it? I want to give you a

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Speaker 2: list here please, Trey Uh, Jamar Chase had more tackles

514
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Speaker 2: than Chris Jenkins, Cam sample Orren Burks, Trey Henderson, Cam

515
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Speaker 2: Taylor Britt, Mike Penel, Miles Murphy, samaj p, Ryan Tyson,

516
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Speaker 2: Anderson Shaka hey were Josh Newton, DJ Turner, McKinley Jackson,

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Speaker 2: Oh my lord, what are we doing? You know what

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Speaker 2: I gotta I do, gotta before we end this segment,

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Speaker 2: shout out to Evan McPherson because he didn't hear no

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Speaker 2: damn bell. Now. I was fighting for that on side kick,

521
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Speaker 2: and I was glad to see some of that attitude

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Speaker 2: from Evan McPherson. He's not afraid. Yeah, he was getting

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Speaker 2: in the scrum. Shout out to man, he's probably sore

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Speaker 2: as hell today. Shout out to f he ain't been

525
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Speaker 2: hit like that in a while. What a night, What

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Speaker 2: a day, What a day to react.

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Speaker 3: We'll start with some of your reactions next Monday, midday

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Speaker 3: Quarterback on the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 6: You've been listening to football in the NATI on ESPN

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Speaker 6: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: This is what it sounds like to.

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Speaker 6: Win out though, ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 10: Third down and.

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Speaker 11: Eight, Cats at their own eighteen yard line. Soorsby catches

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Speaker 11: the shotgun snap. He's looking to throw, floats it high

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Speaker 11: and deep downfield. Good even a catch racing to the

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Speaker 11: forty thirty twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 12: Ten five touchdown bear Cats eighty two yards and in

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Speaker 12: case you're wondering, no penalty flags.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable. What a throw from Brendan Soarsby. He's been all

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Speaker 3: a couple times today on that deep ball. Couldn't place

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Speaker 3: it any better on that one. They took the aggressiveness

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Speaker 3: of Biawa State, especially on the back end. The safety

545
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Speaker 3: comes up good, he gets over the top. Soresby lays

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Speaker 3: it up and the rest is history. What an unbelievable

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Speaker 3: throw at the biggest moment in the game from Brendan Soresby. Hey,

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Speaker 3: that sounds like a win Schuler's call of the day.

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Speaker 3: That sounds like a win Schuler's call of the day.

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Speaker 3: Thanks to our friends at Win Schulers and their four

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Speaker 3: fantastic cheese spreads which are perfect for your tailgate, get together, holiday,

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Speaker 3: Whatever it is, Win Schulers has what you need. I

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Speaker 3: love Dan's call on that because he made sure to

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Speaker 3: mention there was no flags. At one point, after Matt

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Speaker 3: Campbell was flagged for going after an official, they called

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Speaker 3: a penalty on seven straight place against the Bearcats.

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Speaker 2: Seventh straight amazing. Never seen anything like it.

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Speaker 3: But the Bearcats overcome that, find a way to get

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Speaker 3: a win and and put themselves in a good position

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Speaker 3: here in the Big twelve.

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Speaker 2: Give a shout out to our guy Jim Kelly. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: praying for him obviously the news came out Jim announced

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Speaker 2: dealing with a cancer battle and is going to be

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Speaker 2: missing the rest of the season in the booth, So

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Speaker 2: praying for Jim. I know he listens to the show,

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Speaker 2: loves the show, and we love him. So hope you

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Speaker 2: feel better, Jam, right, I said this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Jim is the name Kelly at the University of Cincinnati,

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Speaker 3: from his dad to Jim to the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: His name to me means excellence at the University of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: And as high as I hold him on the football

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Speaker 3: side of things, I hold him even to high as

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Speaker 3: a person, genuinely one of the greatest and nicest people

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Speaker 3: you'll ever meet. And our thoughts and prayers are certainly

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Speaker 3: with Jim Kelly as he goes through his battle right now,

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Speaker 3: and we wish him nothing but the best and there

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Speaker 3: for him every step of the way. Let's take some

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Speaker 3: phone calls. Let's allow folks to get some stuff off

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Speaker 3: their chest. Let's start with Jeff. What's up, Jeff.

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Speaker 13: Happy if we'd won the on side kick Monday?

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Speaker 2: Jents, Well, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, if we'd have won the on side kick, Jeff,

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Speaker 3: Zach Taylor thinks we're winning that game for sure?

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Speaker 14: Is he on Io High schoo with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: Or I when I when I heard that quote, I

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Speaker 3: thought it was Ai. I thought it was Ai generated

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Speaker 3: John Just you know, we're an onside kick away from

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Speaker 3: probably winning this game.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, Well, I'm not going to count the weekend

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Speaker 13: as a total loss. The Yankees are down oh to

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Speaker 13: two because of all those rally killing home runs. Arch

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Speaker 13: Manning lost again. So there's some bright sides of what happened,

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Speaker 13: But onto the lost side of the weekend.

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Speaker 4: Who's more washed?

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Speaker 13: Ted Carrott, Ted Harris or Logan Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Oh Manichach Taylor?

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Speaker 4: Maybe?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think still at this point, Carris's play has

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Speaker 3: just been so poor. But but it's pro probably closer

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Speaker 3: than I would think.

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Speaker 13: Do you think Logan Wilson just does not sit out

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Speaker 13: Golden's scheme?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, because when Al Golden was originally here,

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Speaker 3: Logan Wilson was fantastic as ane as a linebacker when

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Speaker 3: Al Golden was coaching him. So maybe it's a scheme.

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Speaker 3: But as Austin said, nothing about the scheme makes sense

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Speaker 3: because you got defensive ends dropping into coverage, and you

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Speaker 3: got coverage linebackers that aren't being used in coverage. None

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Speaker 3: of it makes sense right.

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Speaker 13: Now, well, and when they ran the wildcat with golfit

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Speaker 13: wide receiver, why didn't they call time out? Nobody knew

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Speaker 13: what was going on on that play.

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Speaker 15: Yep, it's just easy call a time out and let

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Speaker 15: it reset.

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Speaker 16: Let him know that you know what's coming.

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Speaker 13: So and then my second thought is there is a

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Speaker 13: waiting list for season tickets supposedly, right, yes, do we

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Speaker 13: know if they offer those people the first right to

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Speaker 13: buy unused season tickets?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I don't know that. I don't think so. I think, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was yesterday.

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Speaker 13: Out against Pittsburgh, maybe even worse than yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I'm worried about the Pittsburgh crowd with how bad that

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Speaker 3: was yesterday.

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Speaker 13: Yesterday was the worst I've ever seen it.

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Speaker 17: It was just I hope Mike or.

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Speaker 13: Katie was sitting in the owner's box looking across the

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Speaker 13: field at all that blue on the visitors side. I

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Speaker 13: know they don't care, But can't we donate unused tickets

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Speaker 13: the youth football programs or programs that went to the

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Speaker 13: states last year or something that It seems to make

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Speaker 13: sense to me, But we know they don't think what

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Speaker 13: sense down there all the time. So all right, let's

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Speaker 13: get on to everybody else who has something to say.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Jeff, I appreciate that. Let's go to John,

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Speaker 3: Let's go to Boston.

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Speaker 2: What's up John, Tony Austin, good afternoon. How are you good?

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Speaker 2: How are you good?

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Speaker 15: We're hanging in there or hanging in there now. I

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Speaker 15: have one suggestion. First of all, there are internships available, correct,

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Speaker 15: So why not have Brendan Swarsby played for the bear

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Speaker 15: Cats on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: As on Sunday? Like this? I like this, you know,

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Speaker 2: let's not forget that.

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Speaker 15: Jake Browne in one hundred and twenty four passing attempts

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Speaker 15: this year eight interceptions, Joe Burrow in six hundred and

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Speaker 15: fifty two passing attempts last year nine interceptions. So obviously

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Speaker 15: a downgrade in quarterback to say the least. But I

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Speaker 15: think we could pin a lot of this on Zach Taylor,

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Speaker 15: a lot of it on Duke Tobin. But it has

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Speaker 15: to start with ownership, just the relative cheapness of the organization.

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Speaker 15: I remember last week you and Moe were talking about

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Speaker 15: how Denver was susceptible to running backs coming out of

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Speaker 15: the backfield catching passes. I'm not sure if the Bengals

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Speaker 15: knew that because We heard a big story in the

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Speaker 15: offseason that they double their analytics staffs from one to two.

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Speaker 15: Now you're going against a bunch of teams like the

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Speaker 15: Eagles and the Ravens and the Chiefs that have twenty

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Speaker 15: twenty two to twenty four members of an analytics staff.

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Speaker 15: So you're playing from behind when it comes to those

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Speaker 15: types of things. So obviously they have to spend more

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Speaker 15: money there. I think in a macro aspect, they need

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Speaker 15: a football zar, you know, someone who can come in

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Speaker 15: run the football program, general manager, coach, fully staffed coaching staffs,

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Speaker 15: scouting staffs. But that's not going to happen. That's not

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Speaker 15: going to happen because this is the one team and

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Speaker 15: I have this some pretty good sources, guys who cover

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Speaker 15: the league, that this is the one team that before

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Speaker 15: the season starts as we are going to make seventy

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Speaker 15: five million dollars or we're going to make eighty million

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Speaker 15: dollars and then goes from there. So you can't win

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Speaker 15: when you have that type of method. Going forward and

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Speaker 15: looking at Zach Taylor and I'll tweet these out to

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Speaker 15: you tomorrow, eight and twenty six without Joe Burrow is

678
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Speaker 15: a quarterback that's twenty four percent winning percentage, forty five,

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Speaker 15: thirty two and one, which is nearly sixty percent winning.

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Speaker 2: Percentage with Joe Burrow is his quarterback.

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Speaker 15: Now, when we talk about head coaches guys, right, they

682
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Speaker 15: usually fall into two categories and tony who played the game.

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Speaker 15: You have the Dan Campbell, Mike Grabel, Demiko Ryans, the

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Speaker 15: former players who come in the room, big strong guys

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Speaker 15: have a presence of the CEO type coaches. Or you

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Speaker 15: have the brainyacts who are the ex's and o's guys.

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Speaker 15: I don't know where Zach Taylor fits. He's certainly not

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Speaker 15: a motor. He doesn't, you know, remind you Dan Campbell

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Speaker 15: in the least. And I don't really find it would

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Speaker 15: be all that brilliant with x's and o's. So I

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Speaker 15: what exactly does he offer the head coach?

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Speaker 3: So to me, that was one of the questions, because remember,

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Speaker 3: and I think I don't have the quote directly Austin,

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Speaker 3: but Jamar Chay said something last week along the lines

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Speaker 3: of we need more fire and anger, and I find

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Speaker 3: myself wondering who delivers fire and anger on this staff.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's Zach. I don't think it's al

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Speaker 3: golden and I wonder from which players it comes because

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Speaker 3: for players it's unique because you have to be able

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Speaker 3: to be a leader, but your play also has to

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Speaker 3: reflect that. Like I think Ted Carris can be that guy.

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Speaker 3: But if Ted Carris has harpened on players to play

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Speaker 3: better or do their job, the players are going to say, well,

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Speaker 3: do your job.

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Speaker 2: What do you harpen on me for? And you're not

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Speaker 2: doing your job. So I like that.

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Speaker 3: Jamar says we need more fire and anger. I just

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Speaker 3: don't know who it comes from.

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Speaker 15: Does it come from someone other than the quarterback. I mean,

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Speaker 15: obviously the quarterback can provide that, but if that's not

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Speaker 15: in his DNA's person, then that starts what's going to happen.

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Speaker 15: I always think it comes from the offensive lineman, and

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Speaker 15: then you can talk about it all the time. When

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Speaker 15: you played at the University of Cincinnati's at Jason Kelsey

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Speaker 15: was the guy that basically had everybody fired up for

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Speaker 15: the game, right, It usually comes from the offensive line

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Speaker 15: or even the offensive line coach, who you know sometimes

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Speaker 15: are a little bit, you know, a few cards short

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Speaker 15: of a full deck, but nonetheless the motivators of the team, well,

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Speaker 15: the special teams coach, I don't even get any of that,

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Speaker 15: and it's sound like a broken record. But when I

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Speaker 15: saw the play against Jacksonville where the ball slipped out

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Speaker 15: of Burrow's hand, he chased it because it wasn't sure

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Speaker 15: if as an incompletion or a fumble. He's the only

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Speaker 15: guy that chased the ball. They did recover it, it was

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Speaker 15: called it in completion. He stood up and got cheap

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Speaker 15: shotted from behind by someone on Jacksonville, and not one

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Speaker 15: offensive lineman came to his defense. You picture if that

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Speaker 15: happened to you at the University of Finnatti with Jason

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Speaker 15: Kelsey would have done.

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Speaker 3: It wouldn't have and if it did, and I respect it,

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Speaker 3: he would have probably got a fifteen yard penalty on

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Speaker 3: top of it for going after someone that did that.

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Speaker 15: Good, because that's but yes, Ben, you want that Kyle

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Speaker 15: Turley took someone's helmet off because they keep shot and

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Speaker 15: Drew brees Corre like, is there a disconnect with Joe

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Speaker 15: and the offensive line?

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Speaker 2: I can't see that.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean when we saw the quarterback on Netflix,

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Speaker 15: he has.

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Speaker 2: Them over his house.

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Speaker 15: He gave them those beautiful Samurai so ones which are

743
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Speaker 15: kind of laughable considering none of those guys play like samurais.

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Speaker 15: But I just, you know, I just don't understand that.

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Speaker 15: And then I still think it starts from the top guys.

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Speaker 15: If they're not going to invest in the franchise.

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Speaker 2: This is where you're at.

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Speaker 15: You've basically been a five hundred team since two thousand

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Speaker 15: and three, and you've only had two head coaches, the

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Speaker 15: same amount as Pittsburgh and Baltimore, one more than the

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Speaker 15: Patriots during that time, and those teams have won a

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Speaker 15: total of Bay Super Bowls. And the Binalds are five

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Speaker 15: hundred teams since two thousand and three with two head coaches.

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Speaker 15: And he's not going to get fired because if Borrow

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Speaker 15: doesn't come back, ownership will say, well, we lost our quarterback,

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Speaker 15: let's run.

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Speaker 2: It back next year. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I hope that's not the crutch, but I could see

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Speaker 3: that also being the crutch if things don't get better. John,

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Speaker 3: Thank you, man, appreciate the call. All Right, fellas, let's

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Speaker 3: grab one more then we'll grab a break.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Dante, Hey, what's up?

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Speaker 18: Hey?

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Speaker 7: I got a new name for your show. We're gonna

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Speaker 7: call it the TNA. So anyway, I got some things

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Speaker 7: to fix the real kick big dollar. First off, get

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Speaker 7: rid of that.

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Speaker 16: Go get Joe Brady.

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Speaker 7: From the Buffalo Bills. He was Burrow and Chases coordinator

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Speaker 7: Lsu help out because he knows how to make your work.

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Speaker 7: Joe Brady, what do you think about him?

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Speaker 2: Chris Collinsworth had some critical words for Joe Brady last night.

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Speaker 2: That offense kind of stalled out, but I'd be open

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Speaker 2: to it. I think he's one of those guys that

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Speaker 2: you would have to consider. I mean, I think right now,

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Speaker 2: like three names that immediately come to mind. Jeff Hafley,

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Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator the Green Bay Packers, Joe Brad, Joe

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Speaker 2: Brady in Buffalo. I think Doug Peterson is an interesting one.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I'd go with him, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I think you would have to at

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Speaker 2: least consider Joe Brady.

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Speaker 7: Okay, and it's sad too when your star receiver leaves

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Speaker 7: the team that tackles was.

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Speaker 19: During one point.

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Speaker 2: It's not good. That's really bad.

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Speaker 7: And also, okay, fellas and I got this thing, and

787
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Speaker 7: please nobody get mad at me. I've set, but I

788
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Speaker 7: got a wait a solution to help us out. As

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Speaker 7: far as like the quarterback situation. We know Joe's coming back.

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Speaker 7: He's had four surgeries in four years. Honestly, with the

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Speaker 7: way we go on the team, I hate to say

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Speaker 7: I love Joey, my idol, but he's not gonna make

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Speaker 7: it ten years. So let's do like Aaron Rodgers Jordan

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Speaker 7: Love situation. Go ahead, call the Browns, give him a

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Speaker 7: four hundred five shuder.

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Speaker 2: And just sit.

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Speaker 7: So you're gonna sit for two to three years. Learn

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Speaker 7: the system. That way, we got somebody mobile.

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Speaker 16: Then when our.

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Speaker 7: Line doesn't block, won't get killed because Jacob Snate. You

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Speaker 7: know that that that played at the end of the

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Speaker 7: game yesterday, I think that was Alando that let that

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Speaker 7: lineman get right past him. I didn't think he was

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Speaker 7: getting up.

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Speaker 2: From that hit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the the hits are continuing. The old line play

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Speaker 3: is not much better. Dante, thanks for the call. I

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Speaker 3: don't think I'm ready to package the picks yet. I

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Speaker 3: don't think I'm ready to pull the plug on Joe yet.

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Speaker 3: We gotta well, yeah, no, we're not gonna.

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Speaker 2: I think he was saying, go get shit, or for

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Speaker 2: Joe's ultimate demise, everything should be on the doors out

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Speaker 2: of I don't think he's that mobile.

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Speaker 3: Either everything should be on the table, sure, I don't

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Speaker 3: know if that should. Yeah, we got a lot to

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Speaker 3: sort through. Let's finish up our number one. We come back.

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Speaker 3: As we get into our number two, we'll grab more

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Speaker 3: of your phone calls as well before talkback. So hang

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Speaker 3: with us, Chad, hang with us, Mark and anyone else.

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Speaker 3: Five one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty The Monday

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Speaker 3: midday Quarterback ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station, See.

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Speaker 2: What's going on in Baseball?

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Speaker 6: Getting ESPN fifteen thirty from iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Me not alone, Nick A strong mine. I gotta have

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Speaker 2: some fun tonight. Man.

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Speaker 3: This season continues the way it is, we're gonna be

827
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Speaker 3: pouring a lot of drinks.

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Speaker 2: I agree with that, a lot of drinks. When do

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Speaker 2: we start talking draft? Boy? Bye? Yeah? Did he get

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Speaker 2: the does he get that far?

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Speaker 3: Sooner rather than later? Unfortunately, it's going to be. That's

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Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of draft talk. IM not a

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Speaker 3: fan of that. I'm not excited about that coming down.

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Speaker 3: Did you echo Zach Taylor's feelings at the end of

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Speaker 3: the game there that that if you recover that on side,

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Speaker 3: do you think you win the game. Sure, Okay, why

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Speaker 3: not do you echo his sentiment that that there's still

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Speaker 3: trust and belief in Jake Browning. Uh No, you think

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Speaker 3: the locker room believes in that. I have a couple

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Speaker 3: of Zach Taylor's sound bites. Do you want to use

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Speaker 3: those now?

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Speaker 2: Or please? Next segment?

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Speaker 20: No?

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Speaker 2: Please? Okay, here's here's the first one. Okay, here's the

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Speaker 2: first or actual soundbites. This is not a this is real. Okay.

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Speaker 21: I gotta do a better job getting this into a rhythm.

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Speaker 21: Get us away where we can sustain some drives, put

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Speaker 21: points on the board. There's some place he's gonna want

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Speaker 21: to have back. I'm glad he hung in there, made

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Speaker 21: some place force down the stretch. Three straight touchdown drives

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Speaker 21: at the end of the game. I'm sure a lot

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Speaker 21: of people wanted him on the bench at that point.

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Speaker 2: I could hear it. And you stuck with.

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Speaker 21: Him, and he comes back and has three straight drives

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Speaker 21: for touchdowns, and that's that's the Jake Browning. I know

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Speaker 21: he's resilient.

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Speaker 3: Thoughts that to me sounds like gain some confidence as

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Speaker 3: the game went on. We're gonna roll that into next week.

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Speaker 3: Status quo. Don't need to make a change all right,

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Speaker 3: here's number two.

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Speaker 22: I do.

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Speaker 21: I of course, after a game like that, we're gonna

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Speaker 21: look at all personnel to make sure we're doing the

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Speaker 21: right thing. So I won't shy away from that because

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Speaker 21: it's a very fair question after the amount of turnovers

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Speaker 21: we have. But to say that, I don't think Jay

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Speaker 21: can win games for us. I believe Jake and win

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Speaker 21: games force I do.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't either, very simply what, I don't believe he

871
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 3: can win games. I don't believe he can beat the Packers.

872
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 3: I don't believe he can beat the Steelers. Hell at

873
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 3: this point, I don't know if he can beat the Jets, Sobering.

874
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 2: You know what this is leading up to. You know,

875
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: the Jets through five weeks do not have a single

876
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 2: takeaway yep, and they may not for the next They'll

877
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: have two weeks, they'll have a season's worth. Glenn said

878
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: after the game yesterday. We gotta keep doing what we're doing,

879
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: and they're gonna come. They're gonna come in bunches. Okay,

880
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: October twenty six and be honey, bunches of votes at

881
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 2: the stadium on that night. If Jake Browning is still

882
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: the quarterback on October twenty sixthikes, yikes, that would mean

883
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: one of two things. One neither were good.

884
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: He caught fire against Green Bay and Pittsburgh.

885
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 2: And the season might be back on. Or two Brett Ripping,

886
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: Mike White, and Sean Clifford all got hurt. Yeah, or

887
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: sick couldn't make the trip.

888
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 23: Uh.

889
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 2: Either way, that wouldn't make.

890
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 3: You feel if you're Mike White walking in there. What

891
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 3: am I doing here? My agent said this was a

892
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 3: good choice. What are we doing? I don't know, And

893
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 3: again I don't know. How you you go forward with

894
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 3: where you're at and keep its status quo. I hope

895
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 3: that's just coach speak, but my goodness, it was rough

896
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,480
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Speaker 3: Welcome Back Hour two Monday midday Quarterback thanks to Cincy

912
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Speaker 3: Shirts as well ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Let's

913
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 3: take a look, Austin at what happened around the rest

914
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 3: of the National Football League yesterday, Starting early yesterday morning.

915
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 3: What do you make of the Browns and the Vikings.

916
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 3: I thought some fight from the Browns. I thought at

917
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 3: times Dylan Gabriel looked good in his first start against

918
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 3: a good defense. I also think that the Browns got

919
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 3: it right with Quinn Shawn Judkins. I think he's going

920
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 3: to be a star at running back. I thought Gabriel

921
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 3: looked the part fan and at tight end looks like

922
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 3: he's going to be a good player. They're getting some

923
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 3: good production from their rookies. Carson Wentz, though, give credit

924
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 3: where credits due. He made the drive at the end

925
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 3: of the game when it mattered most found Jordan Addison

926
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 3: for a touchdown justin Jefferson's having catches for a buck.

927
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 3: Twenty three Vikings beat the Browns and what was a

928
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 3: pretty fun one in England.

929
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 2: Carson Wentz remembered, Oh, yeah, number eighteen is out there.

930
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 2: I can just throw it to him and he'll figure

931
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: it out. But crazy thought. Yeah, the thing with me

932
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: is watching Cleveland. It stands out how good that rookie

933
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: group is for them, not only on offense, but on

934
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: defense too. With Carson Swessinger, I think he had twelve

935
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 2: total tackles yesterday. Ronnie Hickman, who is an Ohio State guy,

936
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 2: has really emerged there. So yeah, I mean, I think

937
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 2: Cleveland is better than we all thought, but they just

938
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 2: haven't been as productive or as consistent on offense. I

939
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 2: think Jerry Judy has been a pretty big disappointment to

940
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,959
Speaker 2: this point. But Quinn Shawn Judkins they have something there.

941
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 2: And Dylan Gabriel was okay, he was fine and they

942
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: got some pieces. But yeah, I mean it's without question

943
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: that they have some pieces. I still think Kevin's Fancy's

944
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 2: a good coach. Forty Did you know, by the way,

945
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: that was the first ever matchup between two head coaches

946
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 2: named Kevin. Wow. Yeah, break that down.

947
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 3: Let's stick in the AFC North decimated by injuries already

948
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 3: going into the game. Lamar Jackson didn't play for the Ravens.

949
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 3: Neither did Kyle Hamilton, Marlin Humphrey, or a slew of others.

950
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 3: Roquan Smith forty four to ten at the hands of

951
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 3: the Texans. Don't know that that would have been different

952
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 3: if any of those guys play forty four to ten.

953
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 3: And yet Austin listen to this, somehow, some way. At

954
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 3: now one and four, Baltimore is still the betting favorite

955
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 3: in the AFC North. They are still minus odds at

956
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: one oh five. Pittsburgh is plus one thirty Bengals plus

957
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 3: eleven hundred, Cleveland plus seventeen hundred.

958
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: It's gonna say, does that say more about Baltimore or

959
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: more about Pittsburgh. I think it says more about the

960
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: jury still being out on Pittsburgh. Yeah, I would agree

961
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: with that. I mean, listen, it feels like thanks for

962
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 2: the memories. Baltimore. So far in games this season, they've

963
00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 2: given up forty one, seventeen, thirty eight, and forty four

964
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 2: points per game. Crazy, that's not good. And they put

965
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 2: a lot into their defense in the offseason. And so

966
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 2: I'm curious to see if maybe there's a change coming

967
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 2: there with Zach Orr potentially getting fired. I don't know,

968
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: but they just can't stop anybody. I understand that they

969
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: were hurt a little bit, but that's bad. The way

970
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: that they performed against Baltimore or against Houston, Yep, it

971
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: feels like it looks like they rolled over. Could be

972
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: over there.

973
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 3: Carolina did not roll over. They come from an early

974
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 3: deficit to beat the Miami Dolphins. What about what lou

975
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 3: An Arumo in that Colts defense has cooking?

976
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Grant.

977
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 3: They also put forty points on the board, picked off

978
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 3: Gino Smith twice. Colts are four and one. They beat

979
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 3: the Raiders forty to six. What a weird storyline though.

980
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 3: In India over the weekend, Mark Sanchez, who reportedly stabbed

981
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 3: was in the hospital and here you have this like

982
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 3: outpouring of support to Mark Sanchez and and how good

983
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 3: of a guy he is and prayers and everything else,

984
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 3: and then it comes out, Wait a second, they're looking

985
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 3: into Mark Sanchez from a police side of things as

986
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 3: the as the alleged aggressor. And then and they took

987
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 3: it a step further. What a unbelievable twist.

988
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: The charges have been raised now to a felony charge

989
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 2: as of this morning, according to the Indianapolis Police. The

990
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 2: police department still waiting for all the details, but the

991
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: gist of it is that Mark appeared to be intoxicated

992
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 2: after leaving a bar, got into an altercation with a

993
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: delivery driver who was I believe nearly seventy years old.

994
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 2: That driver apparently tried to pepper spray him and it

995
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 2: didn't work, and Mark continued to come after him, and

996
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 2: the alterification continued and the guy pulled out his knife

997
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 2: to defend himself and ended up with Mark Sanchez in

998
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 2: the hospital. So crazy, Just a wild situation for a

999
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 2: guy who, I mean, I like Mark Sanchez. I've liked

1000
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 2: him on the broadcast. I hear him a lot with

1001
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: Dan Patrick and think he's really good. He's got a

1002
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: wife and I think three young kids. So it doesn't

1003
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 2: really add up what we've heard from Mark Sanchez, so

1004
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 2: really strange. And I do think by the way, it's

1005
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 2: people were kind of getting yelled at for sending their

1006
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 2: thoughts and prayers.

1007
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 3: I mean, the guy got stambed. You can do it, yes, yeah,

1008
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 3: and you do hope that he recovers and figures out

1009
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 3: what the hell happens.

1010
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 2: So it didn't happen again.

1011
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 3: Spencer Ratler gets his first win and ten chances as

1012
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 3: a quarterback. They get their first win over the Giants

1013
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 3: more like Jackson Fart. Giants at one point turn it

1014
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,959
Speaker 3: over on five straight possessions. Not good cowboys there before

1015
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 3: cowboys dominated the Jets. How about the Broncos seventeen three deficit,

1016
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 3: scored eighteen in the fourth, beat the Philadelphia Eagles twenty

1017
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 3: one to seventeen.

1018
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 2: Titans get win number one. Can I go back to

1019
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 2: the Eagles for a second. They ran the ball eleven times.

1020
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't get it. They had the lead the

1021
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 3: entire game, yep. They were up seventeen three, seventeen to

1022
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 3: three going into the fourth. They ran the ball eleven

1023
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 3: times and Saquon got six of those.

1024
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 22: What are they doing?

1025
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 3: Six carries thirty yards Saquon Barkley averaged five yards of carry.

1026
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts only carried at two times for three yards.

1027
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 2: I don't get it.

1028
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,919
Speaker 3: None of that made sense yesterday. None of it made sense,

1029
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 3: and the Titans win either. When are we gonna stop

1030
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 3: dropping the ball before players crossed the goal line? What

1031
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 3: a terrible home loss by the Arizona Cardinals.

1032
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: The Cardinals have lost their last three games by a

1033
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 2: combined five points, and shout out to Brian Callahan for

1034
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 2: win number one all on field goals at the end

1035
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 2: of regulation sixteen to fifteen. They lost to San Francisco,

1036
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: twenty three to twenty to Seattle, and twenty two to

1037
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 2: twenty one to Tennessee.

1038
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 3: If now they had a situation in come the Colts

1039
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 3: and Yeah Packers situation where they could have scored on

1040
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 3: a defensive touchdown.

1041
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 2: Player drops the ball going into the end zone. Huh.

1042
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 3: And then another pass that cam Ward threw an interception

1043
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 3: on is then fumbled. Two guys try to fall on it,

1044
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 3: and it squirts into the end zone and Tyler Lockett

1045
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 3: falls on it.

1046
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: Hilarious.

1047
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 3: Unbelievable win by the Uh the Tennessee Titans commanders after

1048
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 3: the Chargers jumped out ten to nothing. Commanders scored the

1049
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 3: next twenty seven. Chargers have now lost two in a

1050
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 3: row injuries. It feels like starting to add up for

1051
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 3: the Chargers. How about what the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and

1052
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield keep doing a mechig Buka seven catches, one

1053
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 3: sixty three and a tutter.

1054
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 2: If you ask, hey, what whoa whoa whoa? I could

1055
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: figure it out.

1056
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 13: Man.

1057
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 3: The Buccaneers are fun. Baker through for three seventy nine

1058
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 3: and two touchdowns yesterday. They're getting some stuff out of

1059
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 3: the run game. They're doing this still without Godwin and

1060
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 3: Mike Evans, and they're missing guys up front.

1061
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 2: Yet they are still four and one.

1062
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 3: They are a blocked field goal away from beating the

1063
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 3: Eagles and being five and zero. I love everything about him,

1064
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 3: and I was looking at this yesterday austin the front

1065
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:04,240
Speaker 3: office in Tampa. What a job they've done at roster development, drafting,

1066
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 3: and free agency. They've hit on seemingly everything, yep, and coaching,

1067
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 3: you know, Liam Cohen moves on offense picks up where.

1068
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 3: It was just a hell of a job all around

1069
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 3: by Tampa. I think that they couldn't end up being

1070
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl. They're good, Like I think they're

1071
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 3: that good of a team.

1072
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 2: And if they are, they should wear those jerseys from yesterday.

1073
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 2: And on top of it, you know they're banged up. Man,

1074
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,919
Speaker 2: They've got injuries everywhere, all over the place, and yet

1075
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 2: they're still productive. Yeah, pretty impressive last game last night

1076
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 2: the Patriots. It wasn't a fluke. It didn't feel like

1077
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 2: it is like somebody tried to tell you about the Patriots.

1078
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 2: I don't know who it was.

1079
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 3: It felt like they just flat out beat. Like it

1080
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 3: didn't take the Bills melting down. Now they did turn

1081
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 3: the ball over. I like what I'm seeing out of

1082
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 3: the Patriots defense. I certainly like what I'm seeing out

1083
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 3: of Drake May. They beat the Bills twenty three to twenty.

1084
00:54:55,400 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 3: Like get the next four for New England, Saints, Titans, Browns, Falcons.

1085
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 2: How about that. I also saw a story on Bill Belichick.

1086
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 2: If you've seen this, yeah, I'm out on Bill Beliche.

1087
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 2: So this is so.

1088
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 3: This was reported earlier, I believe by Ross Martin, who's

1089
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 3: a college editor at Carolina, but it's at the University

1090
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 3: of North Carolina. Staff has been directed by Bill Belichick

1091
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 3: not to post or repost anything to the Patriots, which

1092
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 3: takes away Austin from their quarterback. Drake May, who played

1093
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 3: at North Carolina, wins an unbelievable Sunday night football game,

1094
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 3: and they are being asked not to post or repost

1095
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 3: anything about Drake May because he plays with New England

1096
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 3: even though he is a former quarterback at North Carolina.

1097
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: It's a detriment, what a joke man, detriment to recruiting.

1098
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 2: It's selfish, it's egotistical. Don't like it from Bill Belichick

1099
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 2: at all. There's no room for that type of pediment.

1100
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 2: You're pettiness, You're you're hurting your football program.

1101
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 3: The North Carolina Twitter account posted both Javonte Williams touchdowns,

1102
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 3: but not one thing from Drake May and the Patriot.

1103
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 2: If you remember, their scouts aren't allowed in North Carolina

1104
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 2: and all sorts of what man.

1105
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 3: Week five wraps up tonight with Kansas City at Jacksonville.

1106
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 2: Let's take a couple of these phone calls here. What's up, mark.

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00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 25: Uh?

1108
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 4: I had a well, I got some Tony pipe questions,

1109
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 4: so I spread him out during the week. When you

1110
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 4: run in an offense, are you allowed to go under

1111
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:33,919
Speaker 4: the center?

1112
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 2: You're allowed to yes, yes, yeah.

1113
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 4: Because yesterday he stayed in shotguns for the whole game.

1114
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 4: I didn't never see him under center now one time.

1115
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 4: And I'm feeling vindicated about me complaining about coaches all

1116
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 4: the time, because you know, I mean, I heard some

1117
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 4: complaining about the defensive coordinator having defensive hands drop back

1118
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 4: in coverage, which I think that's And the biggest thing

1119
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 4: that stood out to me yesterday was it wasn't the

1120
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 4: worst quarterback performance I'd ever seen with the Bengals. What

1121
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 4: stood out to me is I thought Jake Brown it

1122
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 4: should have got bitched after.

1123
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 2: And Zach kind of alluded to it by saying I

1124
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 2: heard the booze.

1125
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 3: I'm sure not many people thought he should be in there,

1126
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 3: so even he was alluding to it there in the

1127
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 3: post game.

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00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 4: Okay, but this going forward, if they decided to stick

1129
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 4: with him and Zach's gonna probably be the coach for

1130
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 4: the rest of the season, I would assume that that's

1131
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 4: gonna happen. I'm hoping for, Okay, if he could give

1132
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 4: up the play goll and do these at least for

1133
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 4: one game. I want to see the what the play

1134
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 4: calls look like for one game without him, and then

1135
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 4: if somebody could tell the quarterback, hey, look, just take

1136
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 4: what the defense is giving. Because one of those intercepts

1137
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 4: he had to tight end I think open, like right

1138
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 4: in the middle of the field, and it was that

1139
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 4: one where he threw it with a linebacker was just

1140
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 4: like right there.

1141
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:10,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1142
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 7: Uh.

1143
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 4: So you know, great quarterbacks they take what the defense gets.

1144
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 4: I mean Peyton Manning with dink and dunk all the

1145
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 4: way down the field. If you was gonna give him

1146
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 4: a five yard pass, he take the five yard.

1147
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 2: Passed to do it.

1148
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think Jake Brownie, I think he I think

1149
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 4: he falls in love with trying to make that big

1150
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 4: throw all the time. If he would just take the

1151
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,479
Speaker 4: take the underneath stuff, and take what the defense is given,

1152
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 4: and I think you'll see a better result. So I'll

1153
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 4: get off and listen to the rest of the mark.

1154
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 3: Thank you for the phone call. Certainly kind of what

1155
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 3: we discussed there at the uh at the top. With

1156
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 3: everything that had happened with Jake Browning. Throughout the afternoon,

1157
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 3: Chad is also calling in.

1158
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 19: Hey Chad, Hey, thanks for call list and this yesterday.

1159
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 10: I gotta blame a lot of this on obviously Jake

1160
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 10: Brown's problems but we all know that Jake Browning his

1161
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 10: deficiency is the other line's efficiency. And I just don't

1162
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 10: understand Zach Taylor's mind. Like I said, you would know

1163
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 10: going out.

1164
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 19: This and no would.

1165
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 10: But I know the stats up for the first half.

1166
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 10: Obviously we already pretty much new the game was over,

1167
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 10: even though it was only fourteen points. But Detroit hit

1168
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 10: twenty two pass, twenty run. Zach decides to have twenty

1169
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 10: five past and ten runs. And you know, from every

1170
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 10: time I look, Detroit was only rushing three or four

1171
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 10: and just dropping back because I knew they could get

1172
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 10: to him only rushing four and they're still dropping seven.

1173
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 10: So I'm assuming why would you want to keep I

1174
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 10: mean you have to establish a run. I mean I

1175
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 10: would think, correct, you have to establish a run. Him

1176
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 10: is not working, you have to keep sticking with it.

1177
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 10: And I'm not And we've seen this with Zach Taylor

1178
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 10: the entire time with Burrow, like we've always been playing basely.

1179
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 10: I don't know if he's toned up with it or

1180
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 10: it's basically he's gonna use his scheme whether it works

1181
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 10: or it doesn't work, and he just believes it's gonna work.

1182
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 10: I guess I don't know, because we've seen him. We've

1183
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 10: all talked about this for time and time again. And

1184
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 10: as far as Bengals scoring and points in the fourth quarter,

1185
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 10: that was the charite. They were rough twenty eight to three.

1186
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 10: They put the foot off the gas and then when

1187
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 10: the Bengals did come to eleven, I said it was

1188
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 10: six minutes left. They went down the field in like

1189
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 10: sixth plays score with no resistance whatsoever.

1190
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:14,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1191
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 10: So it's just I just I would like to see,

1192
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 10: you know, the Zach Tylor's press conference as always I

1193
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 10: got to do better.

1194
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 19: Well, I would like for him one time and say, hey,

1195
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 19: I gotta do better. Why don't I let why don't

1196
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 19: we have damn pitcher play call just one time one game.

1197
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 10: Lets someone else take care of play calling duties, because

1198
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 10: that is clearly it has to be done.

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01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chad, I appreciate the phone call, man, Thank you.

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01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 3: You know, Zach did kind of touch on that. Yeah,

1201
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,959
Speaker 3: I mean, today's gonna be interesting hearing him today.

1202
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 2: Ben Baby was tweeting this out after the game about

1203
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 2: how Zach was putting the loss on himself after a

1204
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 2: third straight offensive, showing quote from Zach when the head

1205
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 2: coach is the play caller. That's where it ends right there. Yeah,

1206
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 2: So that to me is the first time I can

1207
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 2: remember Zach Taylor saying, hey, hand up. As a play caller,

1208
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 2: I wasn't very good, which to me, I would imagine

1209
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 2: Zach feels the heat. This is one of the things

1210
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 2: you do. When you feel the heat, you start setting

1211
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 2: up for the idea of Okay, we're gonna switch play calls,

1212
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 2: maybe to buy yourself some more time, maybe to try

1213
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 2: to fix whatever is.

1214
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 3: And I get to his point there, like there's a

1215
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 3: there's an opportunity. You're not a great running team, but

1216
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 3: if you ever want to have a chance to maybe

1217
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 3: open up some runs, you can't just abandon the run,

1218
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 3: correct There are there are plenty of teams that run

1219
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 3: the ball early and make it stop, but they do

1220
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 3: it so they can run the ball late when they

1221
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 3: wear down the defensive line. Bengals do not do that

1222
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 3: when they're running the ball. We got time for one

1223
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 3: more call, then we're gonna get the talk box.

1224
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 2: What's up, Bob, Hey, Tony Pike.

1225
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 14: Nice talking to you, A long time listener of you

1226
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 14: and Autie and enjoy all you guys do. Thank you,

1227
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 14: thank you, thank you for being my therapy couch and

1228
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 14: this whatever this season is. Hey, two quick questions for you,

1229
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 14: and then uh just had to the second question follow

1230
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 14: up on what you would think of this? First real

1231
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 14: quick question, what would number nine stat line be for me?

1232
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 2: Yesterday? With that? With that secondary?

1233
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 3: Uh, with the secondary that Detroit trotted out there, that

1234
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 3: would have probably been some type of like thirty eight

1235
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 3: thirty five shootout, because I think Joe Burrow would have

1236
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 3: put up some really good numbers.

1237
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 14: I agree, And the second question is not a huge

1238
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 14: fan of rus Wilson. The third what do you think

1239
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 14: rus Wilson would have done yesterday?

1240
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 4: Of that?

1241
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 3: Give me about three hundo. I just don't think, in

1242
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 3: going back and watching, I just don't think a quarterback

1243
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 3: like Russell Wilson would have made the read mistakes that

1244
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 3: Jake Browning made. There were he throws to be made,

1245
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 3: basic stuff to be made, and at the very minimum,

1246
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson or someone else could do that. Jake Browning

1247
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 3: could not do that yesterday.

1248
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 2: So given that I agree with you.

1249
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 14: Putting you on your Duke Tobin hat, what would be

1250
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 14: wrong in getting with the Giants and say we've got

1251
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 14: this potentially great wide receiver that has a head case

1252
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 14: in Jermaine Burton, Jermaine Burton for Russ Wilson. Would you

1253
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 14: do that as a general manager if they were in.

1254
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 3: I don't even think it would take that. I think

1255
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 3: it would take you sending them a six round pick

1256
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 3: and they would do it. I genuinely think that that

1257
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 3: it would take a six round pick. You could keep

1258
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 3: Jermaine Burton to see what happens, and you could get

1259
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson in exchange for a sixth and probably in

1260
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks you're gonna end up moving Trey

1261
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 3: Hendrickson because you're in no man's land and you're gonna

1262
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 3: recuperate that pick. And more so, yes, I would have

1263
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 3: already done it by now to signify the locker room

1264
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 3: that I'm not giving up, that we're still trying, the

1265
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 3: fact that they haven't done it yet is mind boggling

1266
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 3: to me, to be honest.

1267
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 14: Well, thank you and Audi for what you do. A

1268
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 14: lot of us listen never call in, but today I

1269
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 14: decided to get that.

1270
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 2: Off my guest. So thank you guys. Thanks Bob, appreciate

1271
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 2: the words. Thank you.

1272
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 3: All right, let's uh, it is becoming one of the

1273
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 3: only bright spots I have Austin on Sunday nights is

1274
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 3: thinking about how good talkbacks will be the day after

1275
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 3: a loss. Oh yeah, we'll get to those next on

1276
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 3: the SPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati sports station. Here on the

1277
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 3: Monday midday quarterback.

1278
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 13: Now your chance doing that time for talkbacks.

1279
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 26: Press the microphone and record your message for ustain and tone.

1280
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 2: Please keep it clean and don't be mean. And a

1281
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 2: sprinkle sprinkled, drip drip. It's that time for talkbacks. It's

1282
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 2: our favorite part of Sancy three sixty.

1283
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 16: Oh yeah, Austin, buddy, play that talkback on your screen,

1284
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 16: and please try not to Saba Taja.

1285
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 2: Since he church gift card is up for grabs on Friday,

1286
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 2: we're a little bit backed up on those. I know,

1287
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 2: I gotta we gotta give out a couple. I gotta.

1288
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 3: Well, we were at we were on the road on Friday.

1289
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 3: That makes it difficult to do the giveaway. I think

1290
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 3: we didn't do the last two weeks before that. Let's

1291
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 3: give the multiple gift cards gone this Friday. Maybe we'll

1292
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 3: give a gift card away Thursday. Then well I'm gone

1293
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 3: Thursday as well. Maybe we'll give a gift Cardo Wednesday.

1294
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 3: We give away every day this week, every day after today.

1295
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 2: I do want to bring this up just right now

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Speaker 2: while we have a moment, because I know this it's

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01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 2: a Monday midday quarterback. But did you see the announcement

1298
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 2: from Nick Krawl today? Mark Sheldon reports what Nick Krawl

1299
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 2: said that all of the Reds coaches on Terry Francona's

1300
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 2: staff have been invited back for next season. Yeah, I

1301
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 2: saw that. I was told a few weeks ago that

1302
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 2: that that wasn't going to happen. I was told that

1303
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 2: there would be some changes on that staff, and now

1304
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 2: everybody's coming back. Come on back. I don't like it.

1305
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 2: Come on back. I really don't like that.

1306
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 22: Brutal.

1307
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 2: I just want to go on the record by saying fair,

1308
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 2: all right to the talkbacks, Ton, how about your bear Cats?

1309
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 2: Forget about them? Sideclones look like a Cat Nato touchdowner

1310
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 2: and Ames Iowa.

1311
01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 16: Strifer general looked more like FC Cincinnati day that orange

1312
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 16: and blue house there.

1313
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 2: If you know that Jim and I Chase would be a.

1314
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,959
Speaker 16: Better corner back to c TV Zach Taylor, Jake Brown

1315
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 16: and continue to be just a jag, you.

1316
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 2: Know, just another guy and fellas and us. I'm missing something.

1317
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to get on a stick there. Three

1318
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 2: weeks in a row, you've missed giving away that since

1319
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 2: he shared cars, We're giving it away. We're gonna do

1320
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 2: multiples this week.

1321
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 18: Look, people are gonna complain about Zach Taylor.

1322
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 2: People are gonna complain about Jake Browning.

1323
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 27: I get it.

1324
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 18: I'm mad about those things. But the thing actually that

1325
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 18: has me the most bad is that Al Golden worked.

1326
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 18: This defense is slightly better than last year. It's not amazing,

1327
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 18: but it is slightly better than last year. They are

1328
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 18: getting stops, they're getting turnovers, they're getting off the field

1329
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 18: when they need to. The offense can't do anything. It

1330
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 18: is gassing the defense. Then they give up and it's

1331
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 18: just terrible. It's so frustrating.

1332
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,919
Speaker 3: Problem with that is they're doing what they were asked

1333
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 3: to do with the assumption when Burrow was healthy. They

1334
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 3: can't rise more of the occasion because the offense now

1335
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 3: isn't as dominant. That's not all the defense's fault, but

1336
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 3: it just goes to the disaster that is the way

1337
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 3: this roster has been constructed.

1338
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 18: Also, I'm in team go get a quarterback. It can't

1339
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 18: be worse than what is currently going on right now,

1340
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 18: Get a quarterback. The division is still wide open. That's

1341
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 18: what's so frustrating the Ravens and the Browns. Hello, the

1342
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 18: Steelers come out. The division's wide open. Get a quarterback.

1343
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 18: The defense is playing good enough. I think just just

1344
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 18: go that's Johnny's opinion. Who did, Hey, John, it's so

1345
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 18: bad down at pay Court Stadium right now that Bishop

1346
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 18: Ready would beat this team.

1347
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 2: I think Bishop Sycamore might beat him.

1348
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 28: Hey, fellas, are you tired of talking about the Bengal yet?

1349
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 28: Christ knows I am. I want to talk about the Reds.

1350
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 28: I think to hear me out, we move Ellie to

1351
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 28: center field. The guy can run like a Dare, And

1352
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 28: then we move Stayer to second base. He's a third

1353
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 28: baseman in the past. He can play a second. Move

1354
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 28: McClain to short he used to be a short stop

1355
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 28: and keep bigs out anchored at first base.

1356
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 4: Let's go.

1357
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 2: Oh boy, I'm not ready for that yet.

1358
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 23: I'm not Tonyss Goon from Indianapolis.

1359
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 2: What up, Goon? Just a tough matchup, right, right, just

1360
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:17,839
Speaker 2: a matchup.

1361
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 5: They'll get it together against the Packers, right, that's not

1362
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 5: a tough mat Oh wait, you know I did want.

1363
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 25: To say though, for coach Saturday, you see looks pretty good.

1364
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1365
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 29: I mean I was watching that Iowa State and I

1366
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 29: don't know if that was just a tough matchup for

1367
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 29: Iowa State, but it looked like a good matchup for Soresby.

1368
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 30: And uh, I don't know.

1369
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,799
Speaker 2: Maybe he maybe he is the tough matchup.

1370
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 25: He'll be the he'll be tough for every opposing defense,

1371
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 25: I guess going forward.

1372
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,879
Speaker 2: So it's kind of nice to be the tough matchup

1373
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 2: on the schedule. How about that?

1374
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 3: You think Scott Frost today is saying man since he

1375
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 3: just a tough matchup, Scott Frost nipped.

1376
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 8: Hey, guys, it's stiff and New Richmond. Happy Monday too.

1377
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 8: You have another Bengals loss, another embarrassing effort. I don't

1378
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 8: care if it was a thirteen point game. It wasn't

1379
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 8: that close. I think you need to fire Zach Taylor.

1380
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:19,799
Speaker 8: Bring in John Gruden.

1381
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 31: Why not.

1382
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 8: He's reputable, He's going to build an experienced coaching staff

1383
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 8: that may he can turn this thing around.

1384
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 2: Do you think here's why I'm out on John Gruden? Okay,

1385
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 2: two reasons.

1386
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 3: Number one, it just is Instill in the midst of

1387
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 3: suing the National Football League and that stuff like there

1388
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 3: was just news about that over the weekend.

1389
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 2: Number two. In Cincinnati, coaches are required to have a

1390
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 2: significant input on drafting, developing, and scouting. When John had

1391
01:09:55,560 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 2: a significant input in Las Vegas and in Oakland, they

1392
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,759
Speaker 2: went backwards, especially with Mike Mayock. That second time around,

1393
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 2: they drafted some awful, awful players. Their big hit was

1394
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 2: Max Crosby later in the rounds, and you know, those

1395
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 2: types of picks that happens from time to time, but.

1396
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 3: That I would worry about. Yeah, but it's not to

1397
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 3: say you shouldn't at least consider it or say anything

1398
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 3: at this point is considerable. How long do you think

1399
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 3: after the Red's announcement, will Zach Taylor come back and

1400
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 3: say the invite is back for everyone to come back

1401
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:28,759
Speaker 3: on this staff.

1402
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 2: Well, he didn't get to make that decision. Good morning, guys,

1403
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 2: morning here.

1404
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 20: You know, I really have to say that I was

1405
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 20: kind of proud of our defense. I thought they did

1406
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 20: pretty good considering we were playing Detroit. If it wasn't

1407
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 20: for those what is it, three interceptions, I don't know,

1408
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 20: who knows what the score could have been, but it's

1409
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 20: time to get a new quarterback. Browning is not the guy.

1410
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 20: What have we got to lose except for another game?

1411
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 16: Yeah?

1412
01:10:56,200 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 3: My only worry with that is when the Bengals made

1413
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 3: it interesting at all, Detroit went and did whatever they

1414
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 3: wanted offensively, up.

1415
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:10,759
Speaker 2: Guys mccahoone and Kentucky.

1416
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 32: Watching Jamar Chacey's last couple of weeks, I think he's

1417
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 32: really being supportive. So I think he knows that Joe

1418
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 32: Brady's gonna be the next head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1419
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 32: Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm reading into it. And then

1420
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 32: on the Reds front, I was doing the numbers you

1421
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 32: can get Kyle Schwarber.

1422
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 2: Oh ye, okay, let's be honest. That game was never

1423
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 2: in doubt.

1424
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 16: It was never close.

1425
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 25: No, and no, I'm not encouraged by Browning throwing a

1426
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 25: few touchdowns against an injured secondary that was playing soft

1427
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 25: coverage and a prevent defense.

1428
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 2: He's terrible.

1429
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 25: If this team isn't the worst team in the league,

1430
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 25: it's certainly bottom three. The season's over, they get the

1431
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 25: same odds to win the division as the Cleveland Browns,

1432
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 25: and then you know this week they're plus eight to

1433
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,839
Speaker 25: ten on FanDuel on the money line against the Packers.

1434
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 3: That's why I said demoralizing, because it never sprinkled, never

1435
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 3: felt like they had a chance to win Yesterday worth.

1436
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 2: A sprinkle, isn't it. You'll be there, I know. Maybe

1437
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 2: that's what it takes. I haven't been to a game

1438
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 2: this year. Okay, maybe that's what it takes. Okay, you

1439
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 2: might never come back. Yeah, I might see if I

1440
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 2: can get onto Iheartgreen Bay, see if I can cover

1441
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 2: a winner.

1442
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 33: Finally got my Halloween costume figured out, but it's down

1443
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 33: to two. One is gonna cut up like three pounds

1444
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:33,560
Speaker 33: of onions, get my eyelids all puffy and everything, and

1445
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 33: it's gonna sit in the corner of the party and

1446
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 33: shake my head back and forth like Jake Browning and

1447
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 33: wear his jersey. The other one is take a bunch

1448
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 33: of caffe and get my eyes all wide and bugged out,

1449
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 33: just like Zach Taylor, walk around to party with my

1450
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 33: arms out asking why.

1451
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 25: And the sad thing is that line's defense is the

1452
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 25: worst defense that they're gonna play, probably in the worst

1453
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 25: in the first seven weeks of the year, and you

1454
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:02,640
Speaker 25: couldn't get anything.

1455
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 34: Moving until garbage time.

1456
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1457
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 25: And you look at Browning's QBR and passer rating because

1458
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 25: QBR is in the twenties in all these games in

1459
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:17,600
Speaker 25: the sixties for the passer rating, I mean they have

1460
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 25: to You cannot keep moving forward with this guy.

1461
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 2: I agree. I agree, Yep, yep, Tony Addi Craig and

1462
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 2: the Creek.

1463
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 22: What dog.

1464
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 5: Just when you thought things had finally gotten bad enough

1465
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 5: to force change, this offense has to go and show

1466
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 5: signs of life, kicking the can down the road again.

1467
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 5: Can somebody please explain to me how the offense that

1468
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 5: we saw the second half of yesterday is the same

1469
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 5: offense that we've been watching all season.

1470
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 2: There were receivers open, now, there were running lanes. Jake

1471
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 2: Browning had time. I think so much of it was

1472
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 2: on what Detroit was doing or not doing.

1473
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 23: It's the Lord, Hey, Zach Taylor. If I wanted to

1474
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 23: see a clown show, I would go to a circus.

1475
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 23: I hear the Barnum and Alia is hiring. You'd be

1476
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 23: a great ring leader.

1477
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 22: You should apply.

1478
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 2: Wow, you'd be a ring list leader, unwavering confidence. Yep,

1479
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 2: well done, well done, I guess Marcus from the grove.

1480
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 35: Marcus, that game scene from start to finish like Zach

1481
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 35: punted as soon as he walked out the locker room,

1482
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 35: leaving Jake in as long as he did for the

1483
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:41,439
Speaker 35: entire game before. There's not a smart move. I understand

1484
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 35: you just brought in Mike White, But in all honesty,

1485
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 35: can he do any worse?

1486
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

1487
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 8: And for the.

1488
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 35: Bearcats, not trying to be negative Tony, but being favored

1489
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,679
Speaker 35: at home, I don't think he stormed the field highest.

1490
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 3: Was it the highest ranked team to come in to

1491
01:14:58,160 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 3: Nippert and get a win in quite some time? I

1492
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,640
Speaker 3: I have no problem with it. Fans are excited about it.

1493
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,719
Speaker 3: I'm okay with it. I didn't love it, I'm okay

1494
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 3: with it.

1495
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 34: Did you say seven to ten days, Austin?

1496
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 2: Yep?

1497
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 34: Once you try years. Oh my friend, these guys aren't

1498
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 34: making a move, dude. The built in excuses are already here.

1499
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 34: Zach Taylor will be coaching this team next year. Duke

1500
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 34: Tobin will be the whatever position he holds, he will

1501
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 34: be there. Market sucks the good news.

1502
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 3: You don't know what the good news, says, Austin. Jake

1503
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 3: Browning wasn't the worst offensively grated PFF player yesterday.

1504
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 2: Orlando Brown Nope, Dylan Fairchild yep.

1505
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 3: Dylan Fairchild thirty eight point seven, Jake Browning thirty eight

1506
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 3: point eight.

1507
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 2: Tony Austin could schaef from Ross.

1508
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 17: It's evident through the Denver and the Detroit games that

1509
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 17: all these teams are looking at US as a joint

1510
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 17: practice type of game style where they just try out

1511
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 17: a bunch of things that they want to work on

1512
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 17: with their players, and if they feel threatened in the game,

1513
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 17: they just go their normal stuff.

1514
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a long year. We're still losing by

1515
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 2: two digits, so.

1516
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 17: Try to look for the positive, see some growth, hopefully

1517
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 17: get some find some core players that'll stick around.

1518
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 2: For Did he call himself coach? Are we turning into

1519
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 2: the homecoming opponent? Tony Austin could schaef from Ross? Coach?

1520
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 2: He called himself coach? Maybe he coaches at Ross. Do

1521
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 2: you think coach Saban calls himself coach? Might be you

1522
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 2: think Zach Taylor calls himself, Hey, it's coach Taylor. Yes,

1523
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 2: I don't think hundred percent.

1524
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 3: I think he says hey, it's coach slash offensive coordinator

1525
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor here with the utmost, utmost and unwavering.

1526
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 2: He calls his doctor's office. He's like, Hey, it's coach Taylor.

1527
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 2: I need to they say an appointment. The offensive coordinator

1528
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 2: as well, calls his wife. Hey, it's coach Taylor. I'm

1529
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 2: on my way home. What's stay at the office? Put

1530
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 2: more time in.

1531
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:59,560
Speaker 19: Yeah, Tony, I watched that game Saturday. How come you

1532
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 19: see away from the run in the second.

1533
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 9: Half, they were dominating.

1534
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 2: The first tack with the run.

1535
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 23: Uh.

1536
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 3: For the most part, Iowa State started selling out to

1537
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage run blitzes, winning the numbers game.

1538
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 3: And that's why I thought for a lot of the

1539
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 3: second half Swarersby wasn't sharp until he needed to be

1540
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 3: on the deep ball of Caleb Goodie. I thought Iowa

1541
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 3: State's adjustment was much more aggressiveness at the line of scrimmage.

1542
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 3: Run blitzes at the snap makes it hard to successfully

1543
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 3: run if they bring one more hat in the box

1544
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 3: that you can't block, and they eventually made them pay

1545
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:32,560
Speaker 3: for that.

1546
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 36: Hello, this is former president Ronald regall Well. Jake Browning's

1547
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 36: late game fourth quarter junk time stats not only made

1548
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 36: Tim Couch proud, but it had also likely saved Zach

1549
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 36: Taylor his job. That game was not nearly as close

1550
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 36: as the final score indicated. In fact, Mitt Romney and

1551
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 36: Michael Decoccus both felt sorry for the Bengals, and.

1552
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 37: Hey, guys, Robin Davis, I know I should be a

1553
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 37: little more positive in this message. For three quarters yesterday

1554
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 37: it was the same old crap. Jake Browning's not the answer.

1555
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 37: Zach Taylor obviously isn't the answer anymore either, but I

1556
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 37: was afraid that would happen, that they put together some

1557
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 37: drives in the fourth quarter, you know, just to save

1558
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 37: some people's jobs. I'm sorry Browning and Zach Taylor are

1559
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 37: still not the answer.

1560
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 2: Some things need to change.

1561
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 34: Have a good day, Austin tone TJ east Side.

1562
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 2: First off, Audie, Wow, finally coming around.

1563
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 4: I love it.

1564
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:45,640
Speaker 2: Zach has got to go. Second, Tony, great job this

1565
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:46,679
Speaker 2: weekend on the radio.

1566
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 11: Third, I'm guessing what's about to come is the highlight

1567
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 11: of Zach going.

1568
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 2: If we would have caught that yep on side right there,

1569
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 2: we would have won that game. And I firmly believe

1570
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 2: that if we keep Jake Browning, we'll make the Super Bowl.

1571
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 37: M Robin Dayton again, sorry for the double dip, but

1572
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 37: in case, the local TV viewers don't realize they left

1573
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 37: that game yesterday due to a non competitive contest. I

1574
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 37: don't know if the local people know that the nationwide

1575
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 37: they finally turned that game off for the viewers. I

1576
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 37: kind of wish they would have done it in our

1577
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 37: area too. Yeah, that's all.

1578
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 3: And one of the crazy things in a year where

1579
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 3: we might start looking at mock drafts. There are the

1580
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 3: top ten teams right now. Arizona and Carolina two and three,

1581
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 3: New York, Tennessee, Las Vegas, New Orleans, Miami, Baltimore, Cleveland

1582
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 3: are all one and four, and the Jets are zero

1583
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 3: and five.

1584
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 2: There's a lot of bad Tony.

1585
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 30: I was wondering maybe if you heard a phone call

1586
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 30: for the Big twelve commissioner at around the end of

1587
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 30: the second quarter Saturday, they want to keep that game close. Anyway,

1588
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 30: that storm in the field that was pretty cool. Took

1589
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 30: me back to my good of the Big East and

1590
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 30: starting the field when someone else made a big win.

1591
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 2: I have no problem at all, no problem at all.

1592
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 15: Good afternoon, Tony and Audie.

1593
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 27: Hey, I'm impressed with the way the defense responded yesterday.

1594
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 27: That was almost a winning defense if you had a

1595
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 27: decent offense is magic. Mike just that bad that they

1596
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:30,719
Speaker 27: couldn't given him a chance in the second half after

1597
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 27: that poor performance by the Gunslinger.

1598
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 2: Mike White's not even acting.

1599
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 38: Yeah, let me know what you think.

1600
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 2: That's the great part the active roster. I'm talking about

1601
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 2: a ripping.

1602
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 39: As bad as things are now, Lest not we forget

1603
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 39: the Bengals are two fluke plays away from being zero

1604
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 39: to five.

1605
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've talked about that a lot. We aren't forgetting

1606
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 2: it at all.

1607
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:56,639
Speaker 40: Yep, God bless Jim Kelly.

1608
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:57,599
Speaker 2: We're on his side.

1609
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 40: Great win for the Bearcats. They've got a solid, solid team.

1610
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 40: I really worried about Sadderfield. He's got it going right now.

1611
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 40: It seems like a size rushing the past for better.

1612
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 40: I don't understand why he'd being covered. I would play

1613
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 40: Berks more, make it makes sense.

1614
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bearcats are well balanced on offense, man, then

1615
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 2: they can beach in a lot of ways.

1616
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 13: Austin, Your sports bucket list topic on Friday Night was

1617
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 13: such a big hit. I suggest that we moved that

1618
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 13: forward as the Doldrums approach, more sooner than later, maybe

1619
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 13: into November.

1620
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 2: Even to resurface that topic again at the reservice a

1621
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 2: lot here.

1622
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 41: Downtown the red season. The Bengals are horrible, well even

1623
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 41: bother getting out of bed. What's the point of it all?

1624
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 41: Lord help us, help me with him?

1625
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 2: Lord help us all. Yeah. I was leaving baseball practice

1626
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 2: last night.

1627
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 42: The game had just gotten over, so I got to

1628
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 42: listen to all the Zach Taylor's press conference on the

1629
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 42: way home, and I think the biggest takeaway for me

1630
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 42: was how many times he slapped the podium. I think

1631
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 42: maybe he actually is feeling some pressure whether or not

1632
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 42: the front office will make a move.

1633
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 34: I don't know.

1634
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 42: I doubt that they haven't done it in recent years,

1635
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 42: but I think he's really starting to feel some heat.

1636
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:26,759
Speaker 42: Thank God for fall Ball, Man.

1637
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 2: Fall Ball. I think he probably knew he had a

1638
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 2: game plan good enough to be competitive and it wasn't executed. Yeah, hey, guys,

1639
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 2: Paul from Cleaves here double dipping.

1640
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 31: The one thing about Zach Taylor's interview at the end

1641
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 31: of everything, he was talking about how he could hear

1642
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 31: the crowd.

1643
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,560
Speaker 2: You know, to me, you're above that.

1644
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 31: You can't hear the crowd.

1645
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 2: You're the coach, you know.

1646
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 31: He was showing his vulnerability yesterday, which is showing a

1647
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:59,640
Speaker 31: lot to me about him, and it shows me a

1648
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 31: lot about his decision making if that's the case.

1649
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 3: If he was serious, Austin, you come out fourteen to

1650
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 3: three with the ball and a chance to go score

1651
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 3: a touchdown and be right back in the game the

1652
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 3: second that interception was thrown by Jake Brown, and if

1653
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 3: you're serious at all about winning, you make a change.

1654
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 2: Correct. I have no problem with him, though I don't

1655
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 2: agree with Paul here. I have no problem with him

1656
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 2: addressing the elephant in the room because if he doesn't

1657
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 2: address it, then he sounds completely tone deaf. Yep. Of

1658
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 2: course he hears it, and he should hear it, because

1659
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 2: the fans are what makes this thing happen. And yeah,

1660
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 2: I had no problem with him addressing that.

1661
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 9: Yes, still flexing catch threaton out here in Sonny Hot

1662
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 9: ands on it?

1663
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:42,719
Speaker 2: What up? Tonny?

1664
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 11: What up?

1665
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 2: Body man?

1666
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 9: First things first, Kelly, prayers for you, buddy, miss you

1667
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 9: on radio. Get will soon comes back. Tony, you're doing

1668
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 9: an excellent job on radio. I'm loving a call with

1669
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 9: you and Dan Or. I'm getting used to this on

1670
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 9: Saturdays now. We a little bit spoiled. Real talk Bengals

1671
01:23:57,080 --> 01:24:00,600
Speaker 9: trash JB six. Don't trust coaches. Old team was a

1672
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 9: joke right now, FC Cincinnati w M. Let's bring home

1673
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:06,600
Speaker 9: the cup on a coach set to see hot but

1674
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 9: I turned it down by another degree.

1675
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:11,560
Speaker 43: Okay, okay, get comfortable coach set you want if you

1676
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 43: had to pick, if you're a UC fan and and

1677
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 43: and they're both available Saturday, you want Sat or fickle

1678
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 43: coach in that game.

1679
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 3: I think a lot of I think a lot of

1680
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 3: Bearcut fans are now so on set. Okay, relax, you

1681
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:27,680
Speaker 3: you're not and do you just watch fickle.

1682
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 2: Fred Chuck cover so uh truck. I hope that.

1683
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,640
Speaker 44: Front office listening. I got a streak twenty coming up

1684
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 44: with two guys that I go to the games with.

1685
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 44: I'm at a streak five next season and we're all

1686
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 44: debating whether to renew. So if that's what's going to

1687
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 44: help them get better, did they know their season ticket

1688
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 44: members or failing?

1689
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 43: Let's see M.

1690
01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:00,840
Speaker 6: Get all dressed up every Sunday getting ready the Bengals.

1691
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 38: It's like getting stood up on the date.

1692
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 18: You got your jersey on, you let your.

1693
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:06,520
Speaker 7: Pumpkin candle, you're all excited.

1694
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 14: Four o'clock rules around.

1695
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 19: They don't show up a few months go by, they

1696
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 19: still haven't shown up.

1697
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:12,639
Speaker 2: A few months.

1698
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 35: Here's the great news, only one hundred and twenty seven days.

1699
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 2: No, I'm not doing that picture catchers report.

1700
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 35: Oh boy, Jake Brownie cannot process fast enough. Okay, Jake

1701
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 35: Brownie cannot process fast you know, yes, I agree.

1702
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 38: The wheels on the bust are following, falling off, following off,

1703
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 38: the wheels on the butter falling off all around.

1704
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:44,040
Speaker 18: The team.

1705
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 13: Done.

1706
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 2: Hey Austin, Tony here.

1707
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 44: Having Bearcats once the Bengals just really ruined the weekend

1708
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 44: for me.

1709
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 2: Tony.

1710
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 32: I want to say, I listened to the second half

1711
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 32: on the radio the Bearcats.

1712
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 2: And you did a great job being up there with

1713
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 2: Dan Horde. And want to know what you like, better

1714
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 2: be on the sideline or up in the food They

1715
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:11,600
Speaker 2: both get a great future being up there. Also, you

1716
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 2: also getting those dwhite looking tickets. Take care no listen that.

1717
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 3: I enjoy the sideline because you're you're right in the

1718
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 3: middle of all the action, but from a viewpoint standpoint

1719
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 3: and being able to see few point, being able to

1720
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 3: see defensive rotations and what they're doing in the back

1721
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 3: end from my watching opportunity.

1722
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:33,680
Speaker 2: I like it. Better in the booth a viewpoint standpoint

1723
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 2: few points. So as crappy as the Bengals are, we're

1724
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:37,679
Speaker 2: still two and three, a game ahead of the Ravens

1725
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 2: and the Browns only a game behind the mid Steelers.

1726
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 2: We need a new quarterback that can maybe keep us

1727
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 2: a floating two months burrow and win the division. At

1728
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:47,720
Speaker 2: the we go as far as you see, Bearcats, I

1729
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 2: was down in that game.

1730
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 14: Tone.

1731
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 2: All I gotta say is that you see football has

1732
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 2: turned around ever since they gave you your props and

1733
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 2: your flowers. Go Bearcats. Bengals enter today. Just one spot,

1734
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 2: everybody pump ump the brakes for a second on the cat.

1735
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 3: Bengals enter today. Football left ninth place, and they do

1736
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 3: hold the tiebreaker over Houston. So Bengals are right on

1737
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 3: the outside looking in.

1738
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 35: Still storming the field is poverty, man.

1739
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:18,680
Speaker 2: Come on, you know you're gonna win. Sorry for the

1740
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 2: double dip, but I still think you're an idiot. It's

1741
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 2: out here. You thank you.

1742
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 3: All right, that's your opinion. We all share opinions here,

1743
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 3: So thanks for that. Glad we were able to get

1744
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 3: that one in right there at the gun. Uh, We'll

1745
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 3: be back in football in the Natti Football. Well wrap

1746
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:40,880
Speaker 3: up our two and then I'm gonna head north Twin

1747
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 3: Peaks in Westchester. Austin will have our number three. And

1748
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 3: oh boy, I can't wait to get with Mo this afternoon.

1749
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:49,720
Speaker 3: Here what he's got to say he's looking for all

1750
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 3: Still ahead, ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1751
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 6: Gutch You and Hard by Bud Light and by Oakley

1752
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 6: Green on ESPN fifteen point thirty, the official home of

1753
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 6: the Cincinnati Bengals.

1754
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right, it's football in the Nattie. It's our

1755
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 3: number two, thanks to our friends at Cincy Shirts. Let's

1756
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 3: run through a couple of these games on the college

1757
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 3: slate that happened on Saturday. They wasn't a ton of

1758
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:19,719
Speaker 3: marquee games Austin. We've talked to u SE Iowa State.

1759
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 3: I think one that you and I discussed a little

1760
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 3: bit off air. Another impressive performance by the defense at

1761
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 3: Ohio State. Also the offense figuring things out forty two

1762
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 3: points on the board against Minnesota.

1763
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 2: They routed PJ. Fleck. That is a team in the

1764
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 2: Buckeyes getting better. Ohio State has a really nasty running

1765
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 2: back group right now, with about three dudes that can

1766
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 2: play in a home run hitter and a guy by

1767
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 2: the name of Bo Jackson, no relation, but his name

1768
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 2: is Bo Jackson and he's a beast. And Carnell Tait

1769
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:58,839
Speaker 2: showed up this week, which was big. Julian Sayin continues

1770
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 2: to get better, Jeremias and it still exists. I mean,

1771
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 2: I think the only time Ohio State ever gives up

1772
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 2: points is on the opening drive, and once Matt Patricia adjusts,

1773
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 2: it's yeah.

1774
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 3: Clink Risch has been really good. Penn State goes on

1775
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 3: the road to Ucla. Usula on the season had lost

1776
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 3: at home forty three to ten against Utah. They went

1777
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 3: to UNLV and lost thirty to twenty three. They lost

1778
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:27,599
Speaker 3: at home to New Mexico thirty five to ten. They

1779
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 3: lost on the road at Northwestern they were zeroed four

1780
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 3: and not only on four. They were one of the

1781
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 3: worst teams in the country. Penn State, who was ranked

1782
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 3: second to start the year coming off of lost to Oregon,

1783
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 3: gives up forty two to UCLA and loses. It has

1784
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 3: to be one of the biggest and worst losses in

1785
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:47,480
Speaker 3: recent memory in college football.

1786
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 2: Without a doubt, and doing so with the coaching staff.

1787
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 2: I think that's incomplete at UCLA. Believe Deshaun Foster either

1788
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,840
Speaker 2: got fired or walked away. Earlier this year, Jerry Neuheisel

1789
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 2: was the new offensive coordinator. First time he's ever called

1790
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 2: plays for UCLA, and he puts up forty two on

1791
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 2: Jim Knowles. Ha, huh, Jim Knowles, that trader.

1792
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 22: It was twenty four and.

1793
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:10,840
Speaker 2: A half was the spread? Put up forty two on

1794
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 2: Jim Knowles defense out there in front about seventy five

1795
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:14,280
Speaker 2: people at UCLA.

1796
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 3: Man, the good news is we won't have to hear

1797
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 3: about arch Manning anymore this year. What they fall to

1798
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 3: three and two? Oh, they went to the swamp. Arch

1799
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 3: Manning wasn't good. Florida beats Texas twenty nine at twenty one.

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01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 3: I said on Friday, Alabama with drag Vanderbilt out to

1801
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 3: deep water.

1802
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 2: They did just that.

1803
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 3: Diego Pavia. If you're gonna be practicing taking a knee

1804
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 3: and throwing the ball in the air before the game,

1805
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 3: you better win the game. Bad luck, bad loss. I

1806
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 3: think Texas Tech right now is the best team in

1807
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 3: the Big Twelve. They routed Houston, Kentucky routed by Georgia

1808
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 3: thirty five to fourteen. Hey, Wisconsin kept it kind of

1809
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 3: close against Michigan. That's cool, you know. Luke Fickle decided

1810
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 3: not to take time outs at the end of the game,

1811
01:30:57,080 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 3: down fourteen. Michigan wins twenty four to ten. Was Consin's

1812
01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 3: winless in the Big Ten. Notre Dame took care of boys.

1813
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 3: The Illinois hung a big number on Purdue in Virginia,

1814
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:09,559
Speaker 3: even though they were ranked on the road they were

1815
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:11,759
Speaker 3: a six and a half point underdog. They beat Louisville

1816
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:18,000
Speaker 3: in overtime and in maction the Miami RedHawks winners over

1817
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 3: Northern Illinois. That gets you up to speed on everything

1818
01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 3: that happened in Week six, Very very early. Look ahead,

1819
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 3: Ohio State on the road at seventeenth ranked Illinois this week.

1820
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:30,679
Speaker 2: That's a big one. Yeah, I'm gonna miss it. Yeah,

1821
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 2: how about that. I'll be in the bowels of lambeau Field.

1822
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 3: You're gonna be on Saturday night. You're gonna be on

1823
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 3: Saturday You're gonna be in the bows of Lambo. What

1824
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 3: are you doing tour in the stadium? Wow, that's pretty cool. Yeah,

1825
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 3: you got other plans a Lambo?

1826
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, got meeting up with folks, your buddy Glenn, meet

1827
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 2: with Glenn. Yeah, do we know anyone else going to

1828
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 2: the game. I've forgotten a few messages from people that

1829
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 2: are going. Our producer, Joe Waddell, Oh is going nice.

1830
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 2: I believe Jeff and Virginia will be there. To Jeff Man,

1831
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 2: who else? I know somebody else? Gosh, I know somebody

1832
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 2: else that's going. I can't think of.

1833
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:11,840
Speaker 19: Yeah.

1834
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 2: Well, Glenn's good people man, He'll take carry out there.

1835
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 2: I googled Glenn his story, His life is a fascinating

1836
01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 2: He's a fascinating man. I'm excited to hang out with Glenn.

1837
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:23,600
Speaker 2: Make sure you asked Glenn this week. He had a

1838
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 2: big fantasy football matchup against me. Ask him how that went. Oh,

1839
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 2: I think Glenn might have put up like fifty two

1840
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:31,799
Speaker 2: this week. Oh no, oh no, Glenn.

1841
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:34,560
Speaker 3: Well, we'll spend more time as the week goes on

1842
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:37,720
Speaker 3: on the college football slate. Let's get to break. I'm

1843
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 3: heading north. Austin's got hour number three. What's coming up

1844
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:40,679
Speaker 3: here Austin?

1845
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:42,679
Speaker 2: Well, you know what. I was listening to an interview

1846
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:46,680
Speaker 2: over the weekend with Doug Peterson. Oh, and I was

1847
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:49,720
Speaker 2: listening to it on Saturday mornings Saturday, and all of

1848
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 2: a sudden, I find myself taking notes about what Doug

1849
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,679
Speaker 2: Peterson said and how that might apply to the Bengals

1850
01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:01,639
Speaker 2: depending on what happened Sunday. Well, it applies. You'll hear

1851
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:06,639
Speaker 2: from Doug Peterson, You'll hear from Jake Browning, and I'll

1852
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 2: explain why I'm finally out on Zach Taylor, plus you

1853
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 2: and Moe from Twin Peaks in Westchester. That's just so

1854
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 2: you know, Tony and Mo Football Show. It'll be the

1855
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 2: first thing I run to tell MO when I get there.

1856
01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 2: What is that you are finally out? I'm sure Mo

1857
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 2: knows exact town. Well, I would imagine most saw my tweet.

1858
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 2: We will We'll talk to you soon.

1859
01:33:30,920 --> 01:33:34,559
Speaker 3: Austin's Next Hour three Monday Midday Quarterback ESPN fifteen thirty,

1860
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station.

1861
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Speaker 6: You've been listening to Football in the NATI on ESPN

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01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 6: fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengalsky.

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Speaker 3: Hi, Hello, Welcome in our three Monday midday Quarterback on

1873
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:37,720
Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Austin Elmore, the Big Fellow, on

1874
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 3: his way up to Westchester Tony and Mo Football show

1875
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 3: this afternoon with Tony and Mo. That'll be three to six.

1876
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 3: You will hear from Bengals head coach Zach Taylor during

1877
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:53,840
Speaker 3: that show when he meets with the medium. Now, if

1878
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 3: you have listened to me on this radio station or

1879
01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 3: any of our radio stations in this in this market,

1880
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 3: you have heard me oftentimes defend Zach Taylor. I have

1881
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 3: always believed that there is something about Zach that works,

1882
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:16,320
Speaker 3: something about his offense, something about his relationship with Joe.

1883
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 3: There is something about it that works, and there are

1884
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 3: results to go off of that. I feel like would

1885
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:27,719
Speaker 3: agree with that sentiment. It would agree with that statement,

1886
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:31,960
Speaker 3: and without a doubt, they have seen more success under

1887
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor than any other head coach over the last

1888
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:40,720
Speaker 3: forty years. It goes without saying really over the last

1889
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:45,240
Speaker 3: thirty or forty years, But that doesn't mean that he's

1890
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:48,400
Speaker 3: without criticism, and that doesn't mean that he's a perfect coach.

1891
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 3: And while I have certainly had thoughts about the way

1892
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 3: Zach has done things that I haven't agreed with, I

1893
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:56,640
Speaker 3: still have believed that he was the right guy for

1894
01:35:56,720 --> 01:35:59,759
Speaker 3: the locker room. He did a good job with Duke Tobin.

1895
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:03,720
Speaker 3: They came up with a plan and so on. But

1896
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 3: now it feels like that has run out.

1897
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:12,880
Speaker 2: You know, what is unique about the Bengals is that

1898
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:18,040
Speaker 2: the coaching staff and the head coach specifically, they have

1899
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 2: a big impact on who is drafted and who is

1900
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 2: not drafted. And outside of Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow

1901
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 2: and T Higgins and the obvious guys, there have been

1902
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:34,560
Speaker 2: a lot of swings and misses in the draft, and

1903
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 2: that kind of puts us where we're at today, with

1904
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 2: all of the guys on defense that have been no

1905
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:42,439
Speaker 2: good and with the guy who is a big part

1906
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:44,639
Speaker 2: of drafting him and Louis and Rumo now being gone,

1907
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 2: and with a new defensive system, and with an offensive

1908
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 2: line that you still can't figure out, whether it's with

1909
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:53,240
Speaker 2: free agents or with guys that you draft, and you

1910
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:56,479
Speaker 2: keep going through offensive line coaches, and the scheme itself

1911
01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:59,559
Speaker 2: appears to be an issue when it comes to keeping

1912
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:02,280
Speaker 2: your court back healthy. I have nowhere else to go

1913
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 2: but to point the finger at Zach Taylor, and specifically

1914
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:14,639
Speaker 2: when it comes to drafting and developing young players. When

1915
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 2: players aren't getting better, when they aren't progressing, when they

1916
01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 2: aren't developing, I have no choice but to point to

1917
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 2: the head coach who comes up with the plan on

1918
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:30,360
Speaker 2: how to develop players. And I have no choice but

1919
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:33,080
Speaker 2: to point to the head coach who is the one

1920
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:38,680
Speaker 2: who has a significant hand in drafting these players. Now,

1921
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 2: this is not to say that Duke Tobin is without blame,

1922
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:46,280
Speaker 2: because Duke Tobin is to blame. But I firmly believe

1923
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:50,040
Speaker 2: that Duke Tobin will be the Bengals director of player

1924
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 2: personnel until Duke Tobin doesn't want to do that anymore. So,

1925
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 2: much like we operate on a daily basis with the

1926
01:37:57,520 --> 01:38:00,680
Speaker 2: assumption that the sun will rise in the east, we

1927
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 2: have to operate when it comes to the Bengals with

1928
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 2: the assumption that Duke Tobin is the director of player personnel.

1929
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:11,679
Speaker 2: And I don't know if any of that changes once

1930
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 2: Mike Brown is out of the picture. I don't know.

1931
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 2: I would seem to think it's not, but maybe it is.

1932
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 2: But for the time being and for the immediate.

1933
01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:25,320
Speaker 3: Future, for at least the next several years, I expect

1934
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 3: Duke Tobin to be the guy. So how do we

1935
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:33,600
Speaker 3: get somebody in here that works well with Duke Tobin? That,

1936
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:37,800
Speaker 3: to me, is a huge part of the next head

1937
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 3: coach of the Bengals, because whatever it is with Zach

1938
01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:45,040
Speaker 3: Taylor right now, it's not working. The inability to draft

1939
01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:49,040
Speaker 3: and develop those players has not worked and put this

1940
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:54,080
Speaker 3: team in a position where it's currently constructed is not

1941
01:38:54,439 --> 01:38:59,320
Speaker 3: a good football team. And with Burrow, sure things are different,

1942
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:02,640
Speaker 3: they're more comp Maybe even you've won one of these

1943
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:07,280
Speaker 3: last three games that you've dropped, it's possible. And maybe

1944
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 3: even Joe is that good that he gets you into

1945
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 3: a different level and he gets you into the playoffs,

1946
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:20,760
Speaker 3: and maybe, just maybe he's good enough to drag all

1947
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:21,640
Speaker 3: those guys with him.

1948
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 2: But without him, you see where some of the other

1949
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:31,000
Speaker 2: issues lie. And if you go and look at at

1950
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:35,519
Speaker 2: Tony's to focus strictly on yesterday's game. If you go

1951
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 2: and look at at Tony's thread on Twitter of the

1952
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:42,599
Speaker 2: plays that Jake Browning missed, and if you look at

1953
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 2: that through through the lens of the play caller and

1954
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 2: the scheme, you think to yourself, dang, Zach Taylor had

1955
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:51,360
Speaker 2: guys open. This was the right play call in the

1956
01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:54,040
Speaker 2: right moment. Now that's not always that way. The flea

1957
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:57,920
Speaker 2: flicker play call was very stupid. He's done that more

1958
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 2: than once. The inability to run and go on more

1959
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:03,000
Speaker 2: than once. We've talked about that over and over and

1960
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:06,479
Speaker 2: over again. He's not always a great play caller. But again,

1961
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:09,879
Speaker 2: there are parts of the scheme and parts of attacking

1962
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:13,600
Speaker 2: a defense where I think Zach is effective. But the

1963
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 2: problem is your quarterback, who you have doubled down and

1964
01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:25,080
Speaker 2: tripled down on supporting, is not good enough. He's locking

1965
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:29,040
Speaker 2: in on wide receivers. Defenses are following his eyes. He's

1966
01:40:29,120 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 2: not looking off safeties. He's throwing the ball late, he's

1967
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 2: holding it too long. He doesn't process fast enough. He's

1968
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:38,160
Speaker 2: inaccurate when he does throw it. He can't put the

1969
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:40,880
Speaker 2: ball where it needs to be. All of that makes

1970
01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:45,920
Speaker 2: Zach Taylor's offense a lot less efficient and Zach, in

1971
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:49,160
Speaker 2: my opinion, it's really difficult to tailor your offense to

1972
01:40:49,240 --> 01:40:52,759
Speaker 2: a really bad quarterback. And even more so, it doesn't

1973
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:55,839
Speaker 2: feel like there's anything easy for Jake Browning in the offense.

1974
01:40:55,920 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 2: Anything creative, anything schematically really makes things easy and creates

1975
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 2: easy separation where Jake Browning doesn't even have to think.

1976
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 2: And it's compounded by the idea that through the entirety

1977
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:11,599
Speaker 2: of Zach Taylor's play a career as a play caller

1978
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:15,560
Speaker 2: and head coach at this pro at, in this franchise,

1979
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 2: they have not been able to run the football and

1980
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:22,720
Speaker 2: they have not been able to protect the passer. So

1981
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:26,720
Speaker 2: I am running out of excuses and running out of

1982
01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 2: fingers to point and where to point them other than

1983
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:34,680
Speaker 2: to Zach Taylor. So my patience going into yesterday was

1984
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:38,040
Speaker 2: running thin. And then to see the guy that Zack

1985
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 2: doubled and tripled down on having unwavering confidence in play

1986
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:48,360
Speaker 2: that poorly number one. It makes Zach look stupid and

1987
01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:50,560
Speaker 2: it makes it feel like the fans are stupid for

1988
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:54,360
Speaker 2: not believing him, because clearly, you know, Jake is our guy,

1989
01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:58,400
Speaker 2: and Jake this, and Jake that. Well, Jake sucked yesterday,

1990
01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:05,160
Speaker 2: like really sucked, and he knows it. I put the

1991
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 2: inability to prepare a quarterback on the guy who's running

1992
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 2: the offense and calling the plays. And then yesterday, for

1993
01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:19,600
Speaker 2: Jake to perform the way that Jake did did, for

1994
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:25,360
Speaker 2: him to do that, and for Zach to stick with

1995
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:30,200
Speaker 2: him again, I found that to be insulting. I found

1996
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:32,840
Speaker 2: that to be tone deaf, and I found that to

1997
01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 2: be somebody who is completely unseerious about trying to win

1998
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:41,280
Speaker 2: football games. And so after another interception that wasn't even

1999
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 2: remotely close, and everybody in the stadium and watching the

2000
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:49,320
Speaker 2: game on TV or listening to the radio on Planet

2001
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 2: Earth knew Jake Browning doesn't have it. He's not good enough.

2002
01:42:54,960 --> 01:43:00,080
Speaker 2: Go somewhere else. Zach ran him out there again, and

2003
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:03,639
Speaker 2: he lost me. Because you're not being serious about trying

2004
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:10,679
Speaker 2: to win. That's a major issue, and yeah it would break.

2005
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 2: Would Brett Rippen have played any better? I don't know.

2006
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:18,960
Speaker 2: Probably not, but you don't know until you try. It's

2007
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:23,720
Speaker 2: hard to play worse than Jake Browning played. And the

2008
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:27,960
Speaker 2: other thing I talk about often with coaches is feel feel,

2009
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:31,960
Speaker 2: Zacha didn't feel like I had any feel for the game.

2010
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:38,720
Speaker 2: The possession that ended the first half, multiple timeouts, not

2011
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:44,960
Speaker 2: even trying to go get a touchdown, settling for three down,

2012
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:48,800
Speaker 2: three possessions late. They're just lollygagging in and out of

2013
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 2: the huddle. The motions from Jamar Chase and others were weak.

2014
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:58,439
Speaker 2: They weren't selling anything. There seemed to be no urgency.

2015
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:04,679
Speaker 2: It looked to me like a reflection of the head coach.

2016
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:07,280
Speaker 3: And then on top of everything, when you talk about feel,

2017
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 3: you want to talk about feel. All you had to

2018
01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:14,720
Speaker 3: do was look at how bad Jake Browning was. Not

2019
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 3: only with his accuracy, like he was on the first

2020
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:23,840
Speaker 3: interception where wasn't even close to Jamar Chase, and then

2021
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:27,519
Speaker 3: on the deep ball where he hitches up and gives

2022
01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 3: it everything he's gotten, the ball just slips out of

2023
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:29,640
Speaker 3: his hand.

2024
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:33,120
Speaker 2: It's a wounded duck arm punt. And that was the

2025
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:35,519
Speaker 2: best Jake Browning could give you. And then the Alex

2026
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 2: Anzeloni interception, where I have no idea to this day,

2027
01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 2: to this I have no clue what he was thinking

2028
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:46,200
Speaker 2: or why he thought that would work. Nothing about that

2029
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:53,080
Speaker 2: made any sense. And he's walking off the field Jake Browning,

2030
01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 2: and he keeps slamming his hands into his helmet and

2031
01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:00,759
Speaker 2: he's cursing, and he's grabbing his face mask, very clearly

2032
01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:07,440
Speaker 2: crashing out. He's having a mental block on the inability

2033
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:10,360
Speaker 2: to play the position. He can't make the right decision,

2034
01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:13,000
Speaker 2: he can't stop himself from not making the right decision.

2035
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:16,679
Speaker 2: He keeps doing it, and he has a mental block

2036
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:19,960
Speaker 2: and is having an issue where he's crashing out coming

2037
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:23,519
Speaker 2: onto the sidelines. It's one thing if Joe Burrow is

2038
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:27,160
Speaker 2: getting really emotional, or Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen. We're

2039
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:33,280
Speaker 2: talking about Jake Browning here, a guy who's not good enough,

2040
01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 2: and instead, somehow nobody tells Zach this, or Zach doesn't

2041
01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:42,960
Speaker 2: see it, or nobody seems to know that Browning doesn't

2042
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:48,280
Speaker 2: have it today, and he's on the sideline losing his marbles.

2043
01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:56,719
Speaker 2: Confidence for a quarterback is unbelievably important, I mean extremely important,

2044
01:45:58,040 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 2: and Jake had none, and it wasn't getting any better

2045
01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:04,600
Speaker 2: and the run game isn't there to help him in

2046
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:10,360
Speaker 2: the offensive line. Oh my gosh. The PFF grades from yesterday.

2047
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:15,679
Speaker 2: Dylan Fairchild was thirty eight point seven. Ted Carris forty

2048
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:21,920
Speaker 2: point eight, Orlando Brown Junior forty three point one. They

2049
01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 2: had four guys in the forties, or excuse me, one

2050
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:29,080
Speaker 2: guy in the twenties, one guy in the thirties, and

2051
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:33,759
Speaker 2: two guys in the forties in pass blocking grades Jalen

2052
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:37,800
Speaker 2: Rivers forty five point one, Ted Carris forty point three,

2053
01:46:38,479 --> 01:46:43,360
Speaker 2: Dylan Fairchild thirty eight point three, and Orlando Brown Junior

2054
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 2: pass blocking PFF grade twenty nine point four. You have

2055
01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 2: nothing going for you on offense, and yet let's run

2056
01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:03,040
Speaker 2: Jake Browning out there again. Doesn't make sense to me.

2057
01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:08,280
Speaker 2: And I was listening to an interview with Doug Peterson

2058
01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:11,240
Speaker 2: over the weekend. He was on Pardon My Take with

2059
01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:14,080
Speaker 2: a Big Cat PFT. I'm sure many of you have

2060
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:19,360
Speaker 2: heard the podcaster or know about it, but I was

2061
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 2: listening to Doug Peterson. This is about a two minute clip.

2062
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:26,800
Speaker 2: He was asked about the confidence of a quarterback and

2063
01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:30,560
Speaker 2: how you have to coach that throughout the week, and

2064
01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:33,720
Speaker 2: he was referencing his past with the Eagles and with

2065
01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:36,719
Speaker 2: Carson Wentz and Nick Foles and some of those other quarterbacks,

2066
01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:39,280
Speaker 2: and it just made me think because listening to Jake

2067
01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:45,120
Speaker 2: Browning after the game. There's no confidence. It's shot, it's gone,

2068
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:52,280
Speaker 2: it's nowhere to be found none, and you have to

2069
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:56,920
Speaker 2: coach that. Now you have to coach it going into Oh,

2070
01:47:57,000 --> 01:47:59,479
Speaker 2: here's Micah Parsons and one of the best defenses in

2071
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:02,400
Speaker 2: the National Football League. We'll get you ready. You'll be

2072
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:08,280
Speaker 2: fine coming into this week at lambeau Field. Right wrong,

2073
01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 2: I'm out of time in this segment. Let me take

2074
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:14,320
Speaker 2: a break. We'll come back. You'll hear from Doug Peterson

2075
01:48:14,360 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 2: about coaching confidence for a quarterback throughout the week, and

2076
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:21,680
Speaker 2: then about when you know it's time to make a

2077
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:25,559
Speaker 2: change and how the locker room turns to the head coach.

2078
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:29,040
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that next ESPN fifteen thirty.

2079
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 26: Three sixty is back on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

2080
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:46,000
Speaker 2: Welcome back Monday Midday Quarterback, ESPN fifteen thirty. I'm Austin Elmoren.

2081
01:48:48,840 --> 01:48:55,880
Speaker 2: So the Bengals lose. Jake Browning is terrible. Not a

2082
01:48:55,960 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 2: guy that seems to be supremely confident. Here's Jake brown

2083
01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 2: after yesterday's loss to the Lions.

2084
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:06,719
Speaker 45: That starts with me playing better at the quarterback position

2085
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:10,320
Speaker 45: and not putting our team in difficult situations and there's

2086
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:13,360
Speaker 45: no hiding from that. And so that's that is what

2087
01:49:13,439 --> 01:49:15,519
Speaker 45: it is. I mean, I appreciate him saying that, but

2088
01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:18,320
Speaker 45: it's not on him.

2089
01:49:18,439 --> 01:49:18,880
Speaker 38: It's on me.

2090
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:20,920
Speaker 45: I need to stopped throwing interceptions.

2091
01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:24,200
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor and Jake Browning playing the blame game with

2092
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:26,439
Speaker 3: one another. Who can take more blame for the way

2093
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:29,800
Speaker 3: the Bengals performed well? Zach tried to take most of it.

2094
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:34,639
Speaker 3: Everybody with eyeballs, Nos, it's primarily on Jake. But more

2095
01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:37,560
Speaker 3: than anything, Zach allowed it to continue to snowball and

2096
01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:40,120
Speaker 3: continue to get worse, which so now you're faced at

2097
01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:44,200
Speaker 3: a crossroads. Zach said yesterday, it's fair to ask about

2098
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:47,840
Speaker 3: Jake Browning being the quarterback moving forward based off all

2099
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:51,760
Speaker 3: the turnover turnovers over the last three weeks. And again,

2100
01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:53,600
Speaker 3: I was listening to this interview with Doug Peterson. He

2101
01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:56,160
Speaker 3: was asked about how you can coach throughout the week,

2102
01:49:56,920 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 3: what you go through with a quarterback and with a

2103
01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:02,519
Speaker 3: backup quarterbacks pacifically, and how you coach the game plan

2104
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:06,120
Speaker 3: and how you coach confidence and all of that. This

2105
01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:09,120
Speaker 3: is about two minutes. Take a listen to Doug Peterson,

2106
01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:12,200
Speaker 3: who won a Super Bowl with a backup quarterback talking

2107
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:15,160
Speaker 3: about coaching quarterbacks throughout the week.

2108
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:19,400
Speaker 46: You're obviously coaching him, that player, that quarterback, the game plan,

2109
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:22,160
Speaker 46: you're teaching the game plan that week. And a lot

2110
01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:24,800
Speaker 46: of times, you know, you say it's week to week, Well,

2111
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:28,320
Speaker 46: game plans are weekly too, right, So it's you might

2112
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 46: get a new game plan each week just because you're

2113
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:32,479
Speaker 46: you're playing a different team a different scheme, right, So

2114
01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:35,840
Speaker 46: sure there's some carryover and things like that, but the

2115
01:50:35,920 --> 01:50:40,360
Speaker 46: communication starts really on Monday. You know, Sunday, you got

2116
01:50:40,439 --> 01:50:42,720
Speaker 46: your your game, you win, lose, whatever, you fly back

2117
01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:45,360
Speaker 46: to town. But it's Monday when you're when you're beginning

2118
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:48,759
Speaker 46: to put your game plan together. It's your your dialogue

2119
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:51,479
Speaker 46: with your quarterback, with with you know, with Nick Foles,

2120
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:54,120
Speaker 46: with with Trevor Lawrence, Carson Wentz, whoever it is, you know,

2121
01:50:54,200 --> 01:50:57,080
Speaker 46: Alex Smith in Kansas City, and and you begin the

2122
01:50:57,200 --> 01:50:58,840
Speaker 46: dialogue like what are you seeing?

2123
01:50:58,960 --> 01:50:59,880
Speaker 22: But this is what we see?

2124
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:03,400
Speaker 2: What are you saying? And then and then brainstorm ideas

2125
01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:04,320
Speaker 2: what do you what do you like?

2126
01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:05,120
Speaker 22: What do you you know?

2127
01:51:05,200 --> 01:51:05,960
Speaker 2: What from ourrow?

2128
01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:08,120
Speaker 46: Pick pick a player or two you like from our offense.

2129
01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:10,439
Speaker 46: Pick eight plays I don't care. Maybe you have a

2130
01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:11,960
Speaker 46: new play you want to you want to put in

2131
01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:13,640
Speaker 46: that week, but give it to us on a on

2132
01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:16,120
Speaker 46: a Monday or a Tuesday morning as we begin to plan.

2133
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:19,080
Speaker 46: Let us as coaches see if we can integrate it

2134
01:51:19,120 --> 01:51:23,479
Speaker 46: into our offense. And so that that constant dialogue is

2135
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:25,479
Speaker 46: ongoing throughout the course.

2136
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:25,679
Speaker 2: Of the week.

2137
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:29,000
Speaker 46: And and I wanted, I always wanted the quarterbacks input.

2138
01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:31,720
Speaker 46: I always wanted to feel like he had ownership in

2139
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:34,240
Speaker 46: the game plan. It couldn't just be from Doug Peterson

2140
01:51:34,360 --> 01:51:36,719
Speaker 46: or whoever my offense. According to Frank Reich Press Taylor,

2141
01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:39,120
Speaker 46: whoever it was, it has to be his as well.

2142
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:42,240
Speaker 46: He's got to buy into what we're going to put

2143
01:51:42,280 --> 01:51:44,720
Speaker 46: in on Wednesday as we begin begin the you know,

2144
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:48,400
Speaker 46: the prep prep for you know, the upcoming game. The

2145
01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:51,439
Speaker 46: biggest thing is obviously confidence. And he's got to feel

2146
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:55,320
Speaker 46: a thousand percent confident going into that football game. And

2147
01:51:55,400 --> 01:51:57,280
Speaker 46: that's the mindset that your quarterback has to have. And

2148
01:51:57,320 --> 01:51:59,679
Speaker 46: that's why I'm not a big when it comes to quarterbacks.

2149
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:02,880
Speaker 46: I don't yell and scream and you know, get irate.

2150
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:04,360
Speaker 46: And you might be able to do that with a

2151
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:07,160
Speaker 46: d lineman or a linebacker, offensive line, but with your quarterback,

2152
01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:10,280
Speaker 46: you got to be calm, cool, collected, level headed.

2153
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:13,080
Speaker 2: Hey, let's have conversation. What did you see on that play?

2154
01:52:13,479 --> 01:52:14,599
Speaker 2: What we saw on that play?

2155
01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:16,760
Speaker 46: This is what the coaches in the box saw on

2156
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:19,639
Speaker 46: that play, and let's let's continue to have that dialogue.

2157
01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:22,200
Speaker 46: And that really goes a long way in the success

2158
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:23,960
Speaker 46: that you're going to have, not only on Sunday, but

2159
01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:24,920
Speaker 46: the course of the year.

2160
01:52:25,680 --> 01:52:30,880
Speaker 2: He has to have one thousand percent confidence in the

2161
01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:36,800
Speaker 2: game plan, in his ability, all of it. Who has

2162
01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:43,280
Speaker 2: one thousand percent confidence in Cincinnati right now? Jamar Chase,

2163
01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:50,040
Speaker 2: maybe Trey Hendrickson. Perhaps you think Zach Taylor has one

2164
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:54,639
Speaker 2: thousand percent confidence in Jake Browning. Do you think Jake

2165
01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:59,120
Speaker 2: Browning has one thousand percent confidence in Jake Browning? Do

2166
01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:02,760
Speaker 2: you think Jake has all the confidence in Zach. There's

2167
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:05,920
Speaker 2: no way anybody on that offense or anybody in the

2168
01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:11,559
Speaker 2: organization has the confidence to believe that Jake Browning can

2169
01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:17,479
Speaker 2: actually recover from this and be good enough to win games.

2170
01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:23,040
Speaker 2: I smell bs over all of what Zach said about

2171
01:53:23,080 --> 01:53:27,080
Speaker 2: he feels like Jake can win them games. If that's true,

2172
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:32,160
Speaker 2: then Zach, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt

2173
01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:35,080
Speaker 2: because he's talking to the media. But there's no way

2174
01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:39,360
Speaker 2: that can be true. And if it is true, I've

2175
01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:41,679
Speaker 2: run out of nice things to say about Zach Taylor.

2176
01:53:44,760 --> 01:53:46,560
Speaker 2: If that's the case, then you really just have no

2177
01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:50,639
Speaker 2: idea what you're doing. And he should know better than anybody.

2178
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:55,040
Speaker 2: It's not there. It's not on the film, it's not

2179
01:53:55,160 --> 01:53:59,679
Speaker 2: between the ears, it's not there mechanically. Jake Browning doesn't

2180
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:06,560
Speaker 2: have it. Zach knows it, every other player on the

2181
01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:15,240
Speaker 2: team knows it. So how do you recover from that?

2182
01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:20,160
Speaker 2: And how can you if you're Zach Taylor, look your

2183
01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:24,479
Speaker 2: team in the eyes tomorrow or Wednesday and say we're

2184
01:54:24,520 --> 01:54:29,280
Speaker 2: going to continue with Jake Browning. Here's another clip from

2185
01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:33,680
Speaker 2: Doug Peterson talking about how he knew it was time

2186
01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:37,520
Speaker 2: to change from Carson Wentz to Jalen Hurts in the

2187
01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:41,520
Speaker 2: twenty twenty season because the team was kind of going nowhere,

2188
01:54:41,560 --> 01:54:45,160
Speaker 2: they were stuck and they needed a switch. Take a

2189
01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:48,040
Speaker 2: listen and see if you can draw any comparisons between

2190
01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:52,400
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty Eagles and the twenty twenty five Bengals.

2191
01:54:52,840 --> 01:54:55,320
Speaker 46: Well, Carson Wentz Goes into the season as our starter,

2192
01:54:55,800 --> 01:55:00,360
Speaker 46: you know that year and started the year and we

2193
01:55:00,440 --> 01:55:02,040
Speaker 46: didn't have a very good year in twenty twenty.

2194
01:55:02,280 --> 01:55:03,360
Speaker 22: Just was not our year.

2195
01:55:03,480 --> 01:55:07,000
Speaker 46: Things weren't going our way. Carson wasn't playing exceptionally well,

2196
01:55:07,560 --> 01:55:09,840
Speaker 46: we weren't running the football. We we just couldn't do

2197
01:55:10,040 --> 01:55:14,200
Speaker 46: much offensively. And finally you just get to a point

2198
01:55:14,240 --> 01:55:17,080
Speaker 46: where you feel like you've got to do something for

2199
01:55:17,160 --> 01:55:20,040
Speaker 46: your football team. You hear coach speak like, this is

2200
01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:23,040
Speaker 46: what's best for the team. Well, it's really what's best

2201
01:55:23,080 --> 01:55:27,040
Speaker 46: for the team because the team is looking at me, going, coach.

2202
01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:30,160
Speaker 46: They're not saying this, but they're looking at me going,

2203
01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:32,360
Speaker 46: you need to make a change. It's just this is

2204
01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:35,200
Speaker 46: not working. And the change has to be at the

2205
01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:37,480
Speaker 46: quarterback position. I mean, you could change a linebacker out,

2206
01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:39,280
Speaker 46: you could change a dB out, you could change no

2207
01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:42,880
Speaker 46: lineman out. It doesn't affect the football team as much.

2208
01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:45,640
Speaker 46: But you change your quarterback. Now you're sending a message

2209
01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:48,600
Speaker 46: to everybody like, whoa, we need we need to pick.

2210
01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:49,000
Speaker 36: This thing up.

2211
01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:51,400
Speaker 46: And it wasn't anything against Carson Wentz. It was just

2212
01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:54,280
Speaker 46: the fact that we as a whole team, we weren't

2213
01:55:54,320 --> 01:55:56,960
Speaker 46: coaching and playing very well. Yeah, I needed to do

2214
01:55:57,160 --> 01:56:00,959
Speaker 46: something to spark the team, and so had that conversation

2215
01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:03,400
Speaker 46: with Carson earlier in the week and say, listen, I'm

2216
01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 46: gonna sit you. I'm gonna play Jalen. You know, we

2217
01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:09,000
Speaker 46: had four games left on our schedule. We weren't really

2218
01:56:09,080 --> 01:56:13,560
Speaker 46: going anywhere, and it was time to let Jalen, you know,

2219
01:56:13,680 --> 01:56:14,880
Speaker 46: to jail let Jalen play.

2220
01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:15,480
Speaker 4: Now.

2221
01:56:15,560 --> 01:56:18,080
Speaker 2: Obviously that was with four games left in the season,

2222
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:22,040
Speaker 2: not with ten or twelve games left in the season

2223
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:26,600
Speaker 2: like the Bengals are dealing with right here. But he said,

2224
01:56:27,040 --> 01:56:30,680
Speaker 2: everybody on the team starts looking at me as if

2225
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:33,400
Speaker 2: to say, I need to do something. I've got to

2226
01:56:33,440 --> 01:56:36,560
Speaker 2: find a way to spark this team. If you're the

2227
01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:38,240
Speaker 2: Bengals defense, how do you feel That's one of the

2228
01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:40,760
Speaker 2: best performances. And it wasn't great, but it's one of

2229
01:56:40,840 --> 01:56:43,560
Speaker 2: the best performances they've had in the last two years.

2230
01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:49,240
Speaker 2: And they lost, even though they probably did enough against

2231
01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:52,800
Speaker 2: one of the best offenses in the NFL. And they

2232
01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:56,000
Speaker 2: gave up fourteen points off of turnovers, and then there

2233
01:56:56,080 --> 01:56:59,600
Speaker 2: was another two points given up on a safety. The

2234
01:56:59,640 --> 01:57:06,640
Speaker 2: Bengals lost the game by thirteen points. Like that sort

2235
01:57:06,680 --> 01:57:10,680
Speaker 2: of stuff, you've got to get figured out. And I

2236
01:57:10,760 --> 01:57:15,440
Speaker 2: have a hard time taking Zach or anybody seriously if

2237
01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:18,520
Speaker 2: you go into this week against the Green Bay Packers

2238
01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:22,480
Speaker 2: and say, yep, Jake Browning's our guy.

2239
01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:24,640
Speaker 38: Now.

2240
01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:28,080
Speaker 2: The other thing here is what options do you have?

2241
01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:33,680
Speaker 2: How can you change right now and immediately get an upgrade? Well,

2242
01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:36,360
Speaker 2: you're not going to go from outside the organization and

2243
01:57:36,480 --> 01:57:38,960
Speaker 2: get a guy in a couple of days who's going

2244
01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:43,440
Speaker 2: to come in and operate the offense and be so

2245
01:57:43,600 --> 01:57:47,120
Speaker 2: much better. I don't think that that's possible. But you

2246
01:57:47,240 --> 01:57:52,360
Speaker 2: should be planning right now for if nothing else, October

2247
01:57:52,440 --> 01:57:55,440
Speaker 2: twenty sixth against the Jets. Can you bring in a

2248
01:57:55,520 --> 01:57:59,760
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson? Can you bring in a Jamis Winston? Can

2249
01:57:59,800 --> 01:58:02,080
Speaker 2: you kick the tires on a Derek Carr? Can you

2250
01:58:02,120 --> 01:58:04,960
Speaker 2: see what's going on with Andy Dalton? I don't know

2251
01:58:05,280 --> 01:58:10,600
Speaker 2: anybody see what Desmond Ritter is doing in Minnesota? He

2252
01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:14,240
Speaker 2: was here once already. Or can you elevate Mike White

2253
01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:19,600
Speaker 2: to the active roster? What about Sean Clifford, Hell Brett

2254
01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:23,640
Speaker 2: Rippen is on the team, he's at least active. You

2255
01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:26,400
Speaker 2: got to start preparing because you've got Green Bay and

2256
01:58:26,440 --> 01:58:29,920
Speaker 2: then a short week at home against Pittsburgh. And then

2257
01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:32,680
Speaker 2: you've got the Jets, who can't take the ball away

2258
01:58:32,720 --> 01:58:36,480
Speaker 2: from anybody on defense, and the Bears, who are teams

2259
01:58:36,520 --> 01:58:39,280
Speaker 2: that are at the very least on your level that

2260
01:58:39,440 --> 01:58:43,880
Speaker 2: you should be competitive in trying to beat them. And

2261
01:58:44,000 --> 01:58:46,680
Speaker 2: if you don't win against Green Bay or Pittsburgh, the

2262
01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:49,760
Speaker 2: Jets or the Chicago Bears, guess who's asses in the

2263
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:53,680
Speaker 2: unemployment line during the bye week. Zach Taylor and a

2264
01:58:53,720 --> 01:58:58,160
Speaker 2: lot of others. So the time is now. The time

2265
01:58:58,240 --> 01:59:03,120
Speaker 2: for urgency is right now if you're serious about being

2266
01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:07,720
Speaker 2: a contender. And that's not just with Zach Taylor. That's

2267
01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:11,840
Speaker 2: with Duke Tobin, it's with Mike Brown, it's with Katie Blackburn,

2268
01:59:12,440 --> 01:59:15,800
Speaker 2: it's with everybody in that organization who has a hand

2269
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:21,760
Speaker 2: in developing and acquiring players for this roster. Everybody.

2270
01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:25,840
Speaker 18: Now.

2271
01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:28,680
Speaker 3: The other option, the one that I think makes the

2272
01:59:28,760 --> 01:59:31,160
Speaker 3: most sense, if nothing else, just to see what it

2273
01:59:31,240 --> 01:59:36,160
Speaker 3: looks like, is Mike White. Mike White was in training

2274
01:59:36,200 --> 01:59:38,360
Speaker 3: camp this year with the Buffalo Bills and was in

2275
01:59:38,440 --> 01:59:44,760
Speaker 3: a hotly contested backup quarterback contest with Mitch Trubisky, and

2276
01:59:44,800 --> 01:59:48,600
Speaker 3: Trubisky has had the familiarity there in Buffalo and was

2277
01:59:48,680 --> 01:59:51,920
Speaker 3: able to beat him out, but Mike was close in

2278
01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:56,280
Speaker 3: those final cutdowns for the Buffalo Bills. He's now been

2279
01:59:56,360 --> 01:59:58,640
Speaker 3: here for a couple of weeks already, he's been on

2280
01:59:58,760 --> 02:00:02,280
Speaker 3: your practice squad. Can Mike White, who has at least

2281
02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:06,040
Speaker 3: played and been successful at times in this league, can

2282
02:00:06,120 --> 02:00:10,960
Speaker 3: he at least make the right read on a cover two?

2283
02:00:12,520 --> 02:00:16,120
Speaker 3: Can he understand the leverage of a cornerback against Jamar Chase?

2284
02:00:17,360 --> 02:00:19,720
Speaker 3: Can he get the ball to the check down quicker

2285
02:00:20,040 --> 02:00:23,400
Speaker 3: so you can get four yards instead of two? Can

2286
02:00:23,520 --> 02:00:27,720
Speaker 3: he do the bare minimum to operate the offense. We're

2287
02:00:27,760 --> 02:00:31,280
Speaker 3: not asking somebody to be Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes

2288
02:00:31,400 --> 02:00:35,600
Speaker 3: or Josh Allen here. We're asking can somebody operate the

2289
02:00:35,720 --> 02:00:40,480
Speaker 3: offense at the bare minimum level right now? Maybe your

2290
02:00:40,520 --> 02:00:43,560
Speaker 3: best option is Mike White, But you brought him in

2291
02:00:43,640 --> 02:00:47,520
Speaker 3: here for a reason, didn't you. Again, you're not asking

2292
02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:51,440
Speaker 3: and you're not expecting him to be an MVP caliber quarterback.

2293
02:00:51,720 --> 02:00:55,480
Speaker 3: But he can be better than Jake Browning was on Sunday.

2294
02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:00,680
Speaker 22: Like can't he?

2295
02:01:02,200 --> 02:01:06,720
Speaker 2: You would think, take a break, we'll come back. This

2296
02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:10,200
Speaker 2: is the Monday midday quarterback ESPN fifteen thirty. When cancer

2297
02:01:10,280 --> 02:01:19,680
Speaker 2: hits the right time. Monday midday Quarterback ESPN fifteen thirty.

2298
02:01:19,680 --> 02:01:23,640
Speaker 2: I'm Austin al Moore, ten minutes from now Tony Pike, Moeger,

2299
02:01:24,280 --> 02:01:28,160
Speaker 2: Twin Peaks, Westchester, Tony and Mo Football Show. They'll stop

2300
02:01:28,240 --> 02:01:37,760
Speaker 2: by for quick hits. Try to think what direction I

2301
02:01:37,800 --> 02:01:41,240
Speaker 2: want to go with this last five or six minutes here.

2302
02:01:42,320 --> 02:01:44,600
Speaker 2: Try to keep you updated with the latest. We are

2303
02:01:44,640 --> 02:01:46,760
Speaker 2: going to hear from Zach Taylor later this afternoon. We

2304
02:01:46,800 --> 02:01:49,520
Speaker 2: do have a little bit of news regarding a former Bengal.

2305
02:01:50,280 --> 02:01:58,600
Speaker 2: The Las Vegas Raiders have released linebacker Jermaine Pratt. Jermaine

2306
02:01:58,720 --> 02:02:02,919
Speaker 2: Pratt released by the race today. He did not travel

2307
02:02:03,240 --> 02:02:05,960
Speaker 2: with the team to Indianapolis for that forty to six

2308
02:02:06,160 --> 02:02:09,839
Speaker 2: beat down that they suffered. Said it was non injury

2309
02:02:09,960 --> 02:02:13,120
Speaker 2: reasons that he didn't travel, and then Pete Carroll said

2310
02:02:13,160 --> 02:02:16,360
Speaker 2: today that the team just simply decided to go in

2311
02:02:16,480 --> 02:02:23,400
Speaker 2: a different direction. So Jermaine Pratt released. Before you say anything, no,

2312
02:02:24,200 --> 02:02:28,960
Speaker 2: Jermaine Pratt, no interest in him coming back. That would

2313
02:02:28,960 --> 02:02:31,520
Speaker 2: be like just signing Jake Browning to play quarterback again.

2314
02:02:32,280 --> 02:02:35,600
Speaker 2: It's just it's not happening. Jermaine Pratt clueless on the

2315
02:02:35,680 --> 02:02:38,720
Speaker 2: defensive end. Not a good teammate either. Although we all

2316
02:02:38,760 --> 02:02:41,280
Speaker 2: love Jermaine Pratt for what he did in that playoff

2317
02:02:41,320 --> 02:02:44,000
Speaker 2: game and we always will, but I don't think there's

2318
02:02:44,040 --> 02:02:49,440
Speaker 2: any need for Jermaine Pratt and a reunion between him

2319
02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:52,800
Speaker 2: and the Bengals. I mentioned the pass blocking grades from

2320
02:02:52,880 --> 02:02:56,680
Speaker 2: Pro Football Focus on the offensive line. The total grades

2321
02:02:57,280 --> 02:03:01,320
Speaker 2: for the Bengals starting offensive line are this the worst

2322
02:03:01,640 --> 02:03:06,320
Speaker 2: Dylan Fairchild thirty eight point seven, then Ted Carris forty

2323
02:03:06,440 --> 02:03:11,840
Speaker 2: point three, Orlando Brown junior third with forty three point one,

2324
02:03:13,080 --> 02:03:17,200
Speaker 2: Rookie Jalen Rivers had a fifty six point one total grade,

2325
02:03:17,840 --> 02:03:21,360
Speaker 2: and Amarius MEM's second year had a sixty nine point

2326
02:03:21,480 --> 02:03:27,920
Speaker 2: one PFF grade. On the offensive line, I expect there

2327
02:03:27,960 --> 02:03:32,920
Speaker 2: to be issues and growing pains and mistakes made by

2328
02:03:33,040 --> 02:03:36,520
Speaker 2: Dylan Fairchild as a rookie left guard, and he did

2329
02:03:36,640 --> 02:03:40,640
Speaker 2: make them the safety that Jake Browning took complete with

2330
02:03:40,880 --> 02:03:44,080
Speaker 2: from Fairchild. One thing I'll say about the Bengals offensive

2331
02:03:44,120 --> 02:03:47,040
Speaker 2: line is it rarely feels like their eyes are in

2332
02:03:47,160 --> 02:03:50,760
Speaker 2: the right place, and it makes it difficult to go

2333
02:03:50,920 --> 02:03:54,840
Speaker 2: up against stunts. It makes it difficult to be in

2334
02:03:54,920 --> 02:03:57,480
Speaker 2: the right position and see where players are coming from

2335
02:03:58,040 --> 02:04:01,120
Speaker 2: I don't know how that's coached by Scott Peters, but

2336
02:04:01,240 --> 02:04:03,880
Speaker 2: that seems to be a common issue with the Bengals

2337
02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:06,200
Speaker 2: offensive line. Their eyes are not in the right place.

2338
02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:11,760
Speaker 2: And secondly about the offensive line, when I'm writing down,

2339
02:04:11,880 --> 02:04:18,360
Speaker 2: like thinking forward to the future of the Bengals and now,

2340
02:04:18,400 --> 02:04:20,760
Speaker 2: I'm kind of operating under the assumption that the Zach

2341
02:04:20,800 --> 02:04:23,160
Speaker 2: Taylor's not going to be here because I don't see

2342
02:04:23,200 --> 02:04:27,760
Speaker 2: this getting any better, and so I'm operating under that

2343
02:04:27,960 --> 02:04:31,520
Speaker 2: assumption Zach won't be here. And so I look ahead

2344
02:04:31,600 --> 02:04:35,200
Speaker 2: to twenty twenty six, and they're gonna have sixty four

2345
02:04:35,400 --> 02:04:39,800
Speaker 2: million dollars in cap space as of right now. That's

2346
02:04:39,920 --> 02:04:44,640
Speaker 2: plenty of cap space. Plenty of cap space. They need

2347
02:04:44,720 --> 02:04:49,280
Speaker 2: a left tackle, they need a center, they need a

2348
02:04:49,360 --> 02:04:56,040
Speaker 2: right guard that's on offensive line alone, like they also

2349
02:04:56,200 --> 02:04:59,280
Speaker 2: probably need another tight end, and they need wide receiver

2350
02:04:59,400 --> 02:05:02,760
Speaker 2: three through five, and on the defensive side of the ball,

2351
02:05:02,840 --> 02:05:06,720
Speaker 2: they need upgrades at every single position. Which is why

2352
02:05:06,960 --> 02:05:09,640
Speaker 2: if it's me and we continue down the path that

2353
02:05:09,680 --> 02:05:13,600
Speaker 2: we're currently on and you expect them to lose against

2354
02:05:13,680 --> 02:05:15,760
Speaker 2: Green Bay in which they are fourteen and a half

2355
02:05:15,960 --> 02:05:19,360
Speaker 2: point underdogs, might get up to seventeen by the time

2356
02:05:19,400 --> 02:05:22,400
Speaker 2: the game rolls around. And then Pittsburgh, who is at

2357
02:05:22,440 --> 02:05:24,480
Speaker 2: the top of the AFC North right now, and if

2358
02:05:24,560 --> 02:05:26,400
Speaker 2: they are to lose one of those two against the

2359
02:05:26,480 --> 02:05:28,560
Speaker 2: Jets and Bears, and let's be honest, that's not off

2360
02:05:28,640 --> 02:05:33,240
Speaker 2: the table, right then you really got to start thinking

2361
02:05:33,280 --> 02:05:40,320
Speaker 2: about next year, starting with Trey Hendrickson. When you have

2362
02:05:40,480 --> 02:05:48,920
Speaker 2: that many holes and I'm counting one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven,

2363
02:05:49,160 --> 02:05:54,120
Speaker 2: at least eleven holes starting spots between your offense and

2364
02:05:54,200 --> 02:05:58,240
Speaker 2: your defense, you need picks. The Bengals are going to

2365
02:05:58,280 --> 02:06:00,200
Speaker 2: be set up with draft picks, assuming that I don't

2366
02:06:00,200 --> 02:06:02,600
Speaker 2: win very many games the rest of the year, and

2367
02:06:02,720 --> 02:06:05,240
Speaker 2: they have the cap space. It's over sixty million, and

2368
02:06:05,240 --> 02:06:09,760
Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll get more with some cap casualties. And

2369
02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:13,320
Speaker 2: if you can get draft picks for Trey Hendrickson, you

2370
02:06:13,440 --> 02:06:16,160
Speaker 2: got to consider it. And the reason I say this

2371
02:06:16,320 --> 02:06:19,120
Speaker 2: is because Joe Burrow probably not gonna come back this year,

2372
02:06:19,800 --> 02:06:25,360
Speaker 2: but you still have Joe Burrow and you cannot waste

2373
02:06:25,480 --> 02:06:27,040
Speaker 2: another year of his prime.

2374
02:06:27,880 --> 02:06:28,240
Speaker 22: Right now.

2375
02:06:28,280 --> 02:06:31,640
Speaker 3: They're wasting a year of Jamar Chase's prime. They're wasting

2376
02:06:31,680 --> 02:06:34,680
Speaker 3: a year of t Higgins prime, just like they did

2377
02:06:34,800 --> 02:06:38,080
Speaker 3: last year. We saw how amazing those guys can be,

2378
02:06:38,920 --> 02:06:41,000
Speaker 3: and because they didn't have the defensive.

2379
02:06:40,640 --> 02:06:44,280
Speaker 2: People for it, they wasted a year of those players prime. Well,

2380
02:06:44,280 --> 02:06:47,920
Speaker 2: another year right now has been wasted, and then the

2381
02:06:48,080 --> 02:06:51,560
Speaker 2: clock really starts ticking once you get into twenty twenty six.

2382
02:06:52,720 --> 02:06:56,120
Speaker 2: Life goes fast in the NFL. It's short. You've got

2383
02:06:56,240 --> 02:07:01,200
Speaker 2: to be prepared to quickly flip the row uster and

2384
02:07:01,400 --> 02:07:06,720
Speaker 2: be more competitive, especially when Cleveland, as we mentioned earlier,

2385
02:07:07,120 --> 02:07:10,080
Speaker 2: they seem to have hit on their draft class. Pittsburgh

2386
02:07:10,400 --> 02:07:12,400
Speaker 2: might maybe still be stuck in the mud and are

2387
02:07:12,440 --> 02:07:15,920
Speaker 2: going to have some financial issues. Baltimore might be staring

2388
02:07:15,920 --> 02:07:19,800
Speaker 2: at a reset at several positions. You've got to start

2389
02:07:19,920 --> 02:07:23,480
Speaker 2: thinking about tomorrow right now. I'm not saying punt on

2390
02:07:23,560 --> 02:07:25,920
Speaker 2: the season. I'm not saying give up, I'm not saying quit.

2391
02:07:27,000 --> 02:07:31,520
Speaker 2: But at what point do you reach this season saying Okay,

2392
02:07:32,320 --> 02:07:35,840
Speaker 2: this isn't working. We got to start making decisions with

2393
02:07:36,080 --> 02:07:39,560
Speaker 2: next year and twenty seven and twenty eight in mind

2394
02:07:40,400 --> 02:07:42,520
Speaker 2: so that we can have Joe Burrow here and actually

2395
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:44,360
Speaker 2: make a run at this thing. By the way, as

2396
02:07:44,480 --> 02:07:47,880
Speaker 2: of now, cap space in twenty six sixty four million,

2397
02:07:48,320 --> 02:07:51,360
Speaker 2: twenty seven one hundred and twenty six million, and twenty

2398
02:07:51,480 --> 02:07:54,760
Speaker 2: eight one hundred and eighty three million. So let's say

2399
02:07:54,760 --> 02:07:58,600
Speaker 2: the Bengals do fire Zach Taylor. This job is not

2400
02:07:58,720 --> 02:08:02,360
Speaker 2: a desirable job because of the structure of the front

2401
02:08:02,400 --> 02:08:07,160
Speaker 2: office and the Brown family. That turns people away. But

2402
02:08:07,280 --> 02:08:10,400
Speaker 2: you know what doesn't turn people away. Joe Burrow, Jamar

2403
02:08:10,520 --> 02:08:14,040
Speaker 2: Chase under contract and one hundred plus million dollars in

2404
02:08:14,120 --> 02:08:19,520
Speaker 2: cap space within two years that anybody will sign up for.

2405
02:08:21,560 --> 02:08:23,120
Speaker 2: We'll take a break, we'll come back. We'll talk to

2406
02:08:23,200 --> 02:08:26,440
Speaker 2: Moegger and Tony Pike. Twin Peaks, Westchester, Tony and Mo

2407
02:08:26,560 --> 02:08:29,640
Speaker 2: Football Show. Quick Hits is next on the Monday midday

2408
02:08:29,680 --> 02:08:31,440
Speaker 2: Quarterback ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 26: Since and he continues on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati's sports station.

2410
02:08:38,560 --> 02:08:42,080
Speaker 26: It's time for Sincy three sixty Quick Hits on ESPN

2411
02:08:42,240 --> 02:08:42,960
Speaker 26: fifteen thirty.

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02:08:43,680 --> 02:08:45,920
Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, it is time for quick Hits. And I

2413
02:08:46,040 --> 02:08:48,800
Speaker 2: know that Moe and Tony are standing by Twin Peaks

2414
02:08:48,840 --> 02:08:51,440
Speaker 2: and Westchester ahead of the Tony and Mo Football Show.

2415
02:08:51,480 --> 02:08:52,640
Speaker 2: What's up, boys? How are we doing?

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02:08:54,000 --> 02:08:54,560
Speaker 22: You know what I'm doing?

2417
02:08:54,640 --> 02:08:54,840
Speaker 4: Well?

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02:08:54,920 --> 02:08:56,440
Speaker 38: I have a question for you guys. You guys are

2419
02:08:56,440 --> 02:08:59,440
Speaker 38: both big football fans, big Bengals fans. Yeah, lots of

2420
02:09:00,120 --> 02:09:02,840
Speaker 38: Detroit Lions fans at the game yesterday, and they were

2421
02:09:02,880 --> 02:09:04,560
Speaker 38: cool as hell. I think there's a little bit of

2422
02:09:04,600 --> 02:09:07,640
Speaker 38: a kinship between Bengals fans and Lions fans. These are

2423
02:09:07,680 --> 02:09:10,360
Speaker 38: franchises that have dragged their respective fan bases through some

2424
02:09:10,480 --> 02:09:14,440
Speaker 38: really tough times, both Midwestern cities, blue collar cities. Yes,

2425
02:09:14,760 --> 02:09:17,120
Speaker 38: so I met a lot of really cool Lions fans yesterday.

2426
02:09:17,160 --> 02:09:19,880
Speaker 38: They were in all weekend watching the Tigers play, watching

2427
02:09:19,920 --> 02:09:23,400
Speaker 38: their favorite college football team play. In our section yesterday,

2428
02:09:23,800 --> 02:09:27,800
Speaker 38: the Lions fans, many of them had blue hard hats

2429
02:09:27,840 --> 02:09:31,520
Speaker 38: on or silver hard hats on, Lions branded construction hats on.

2430
02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:34,040
Speaker 22: Are you a real fan if you're not wearing one

2431
02:09:34,040 --> 02:09:34,280
Speaker 22: of those?

2432
02:09:34,400 --> 02:09:36,200
Speaker 2: Nope, that's the old lunch pale.

2433
02:09:36,280 --> 02:09:38,080
Speaker 22: Can we make that a thing here?

2434
02:09:38,240 --> 02:09:40,760
Speaker 2: Blue collar? That was a thing for a while. If

2435
02:09:40,800 --> 02:09:44,040
Speaker 2: I remember back in the when I was a kid,

2436
02:09:44,080 --> 02:09:46,919
Speaker 2: I seem to remember that happening a lot with the stripes.

2437
02:09:47,720 --> 02:09:49,520
Speaker 22: This is collar. This is gonna be my thing.

2438
02:09:50,200 --> 02:09:53,840
Speaker 38: I'm gonna get a Bengals branded construction helmet and that's

2439
02:09:53,880 --> 02:09:54,200
Speaker 38: gonna be.

2440
02:09:54,360 --> 02:09:56,560
Speaker 2: That's better than the paper bag somebody pitched last week.

2441
02:09:56,680 --> 02:09:58,320
Speaker 22: Saw a lot of paper bags at the game yesterday.

2442
02:09:58,760 --> 02:10:01,880
Speaker 38: Yeah, it's a lot of paper bags people walking out

2443
02:10:01,920 --> 02:10:04,320
Speaker 38: that the game kind of got ugly.

2444
02:10:04,920 --> 02:10:07,480
Speaker 22: And but I also saw Bengals fan more.

2445
02:10:07,400 --> 02:10:09,560
Speaker 38: Than one of those hats that I don't understand, the

2446
02:10:09,640 --> 02:10:13,360
Speaker 38: oversize one that says Cincinnati upside down appropriately.

2447
02:10:14,120 --> 02:10:15,080
Speaker 22: Yeah, do you know what?

2448
02:10:15,160 --> 02:10:16,760
Speaker 2: They figured some things out in the fourth court? Now,

2449
02:10:16,880 --> 02:10:21,280
Speaker 2: Ben Denucci, the famous backup quarterback, he started that brand

2450
02:10:21,680 --> 02:10:23,839
Speaker 2: of the upside down hats. That's his brand.

2451
02:10:25,040 --> 02:10:25,600
Speaker 38: Than Browning.

2452
02:10:25,680 --> 02:10:28,040
Speaker 2: You know he's out of football. Now what business do

2453
02:10:28,080 --> 02:10:29,960
Speaker 2: you think Jake Browning will start next year?

2454
02:10:32,800 --> 02:10:35,600
Speaker 38: It's a great You know, we used to have Tom

2455
02:10:35,680 --> 02:10:37,920
Speaker 38: Browning here, God rest his soul, mister perfect.

2456
02:10:38,360 --> 02:10:40,480
Speaker 22: What's Jake Browning m.

2457
02:10:43,240 --> 02:10:44,440
Speaker 2: Followers to figure out today?

2458
02:10:44,520 --> 02:10:52,240
Speaker 3: Mister not perfect? Brendan Soresby was nearly perfect Cats now huh, Well,

2459
02:10:52,840 --> 02:10:55,840
Speaker 3: it's no longer a governing body can sos in the

2460
02:10:56,080 --> 02:10:57,440
Speaker 3: line double dip on weekends.

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02:10:58,160 --> 02:11:00,800
Speaker 38: You know, the line has been blow between pro and

2462
02:11:00,880 --> 02:11:03,600
Speaker 38: college football. And by the way, best healthy quarterback in

2463
02:11:03,640 --> 02:11:06,600
Speaker 38: the city. Let me just clarify. You know, we have

2464
02:11:06,640 --> 02:11:09,040
Speaker 38: a rule on this show. You know what that rule is,

2465
02:11:09,880 --> 02:11:11,080
Speaker 38: Winners go first.

2466
02:11:11,200 --> 02:11:11,480
Speaker 4: WHOA.

2467
02:11:12,560 --> 02:11:15,040
Speaker 38: So we will air the Zach Taylor press conference out

2468
02:11:15,040 --> 02:11:19,680
Speaker 38: of contractual obligations, and then the show will begin by

2469
02:11:19,760 --> 02:11:23,680
Speaker 38: talking about four one Bearcats, one of four teams undefeated

2470
02:11:24,320 --> 02:11:27,800
Speaker 38: in Big Twelve play, getting set to host UCF on Saturday.

2471
02:11:28,320 --> 02:11:31,320
Speaker 38: Cats coming off what I thought was an impressive performance.

2472
02:11:31,720 --> 02:11:35,160
Speaker 38: I'm not necessarily sure the score reflected how good they were,

2473
02:11:35,760 --> 02:11:40,560
Speaker 38: but look, man, it feels like the program is turning

2474
02:11:40,600 --> 02:11:44,200
Speaker 38: a corner. Maybe it hasn't already, but it feels like

2475
02:11:44,280 --> 02:11:46,320
Speaker 38: they're turning a corner, and we're gonna start.

2476
02:11:46,200 --> 02:11:47,040
Speaker 22: The show by talking about it.

2477
02:11:47,160 --> 02:11:49,160
Speaker 3: I'm ready for that. Can I ask you something real quick?

2478
02:11:49,240 --> 02:11:53,120
Speaker 3: More to milestone twenty four hours for our guy Austin.

2479
02:11:53,360 --> 02:11:55,480
Speaker 3: Now he's gonna go to Green Bay for the game

2480
02:11:55,520 --> 02:11:57,080
Speaker 3: with some other I think there's some listeners that are

2481
02:11:57,120 --> 02:11:57,880
Speaker 3: heading to the game as well.

2482
02:11:57,960 --> 02:11:58,480
Speaker 22: Nice cool.

2483
02:11:58,800 --> 02:12:01,640
Speaker 3: So he's gonna spend time in Green Bay. But before

2484
02:12:01,720 --> 02:12:03,600
Speaker 3: heading out to Green Bay, he put on his social

2485
02:12:03,640 --> 02:12:05,360
Speaker 3: media last night, and then he doubled down on the

2486
02:12:05,360 --> 02:12:07,920
Speaker 3: air today. I heard that he is now out on

2487
02:12:08,120 --> 02:12:10,400
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor as the head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals.

2488
02:12:10,440 --> 02:12:11,320
Speaker 2: Your immediate thoughts.

2489
02:12:11,400 --> 02:12:15,560
Speaker 38: Fair, It's fair. I have no issue with that. I

2490
02:12:15,720 --> 02:12:18,200
Speaker 38: focus more on the construction of the roster. I'm out

2491
02:12:18,240 --> 02:12:21,000
Speaker 38: on Duke Tobin because I don't trust him. I don't

2492
02:12:21,000 --> 02:12:23,320
Speaker 38: trust him to fix this. I don't trust Zach Taylor

2493
02:12:23,400 --> 02:12:25,840
Speaker 38: to make do, which is ultimately what a head coach

2494
02:12:25,880 --> 02:12:29,280
Speaker 38: has to do. I understand anybody who's out on Zach Taylor,

2495
02:12:29,840 --> 02:12:33,040
Speaker 38: and frankly, I don't know what the argument against Austin is.

2496
02:12:34,200 --> 02:12:37,320
Speaker 38: I say this not to excuse Zach, because I watch

2497
02:12:37,440 --> 02:12:41,240
Speaker 38: other coaches, including Zach Taylor in the past, figure it out.

2498
02:12:42,080 --> 02:12:43,040
Speaker 22: I look at this roster.

2499
02:12:43,400 --> 02:12:46,080
Speaker 38: My issue is Duke Tobin did with that guy over

2500
02:12:46,120 --> 02:12:47,720
Speaker 38: there is doing right now? It just sat there all

2501
02:12:47,760 --> 02:12:48,240
Speaker 38: off season.

2502
02:12:48,400 --> 02:12:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he only speaks twice a year.

2503
02:12:51,480 --> 02:12:54,360
Speaker 22: I don't care about that. Yep, I unanswered anything.

2504
02:12:54,440 --> 02:12:57,200
Speaker 38: When when Duke Tobin was putting together good rosters, he

2505
02:12:57,320 --> 02:12:59,680
Speaker 38: never spoke. And that's okay. Whatever he says is going

2506
02:12:59,760 --> 02:13:03,000
Speaker 38: to be completely irrelevant. Go ahead, that's the thing you

2507
02:13:03,200 --> 02:13:05,640
Speaker 38: just mentioned. He has put together good rosters.

2508
02:13:06,640 --> 02:13:08,640
Speaker 2: And how much of it do you put on the

2509
02:13:08,720 --> 02:13:12,560
Speaker 2: idea that head coaches and all the coaching staff in

2510
02:13:12,720 --> 02:13:16,720
Speaker 2: this town or in this franchise have a significant impact

2511
02:13:17,160 --> 02:13:24,720
Speaker 2: on scouting and drafting the page, right, But.

2512
02:13:24,800 --> 02:13:26,840
Speaker 3: You say putting together a good roster, and yet last

2513
02:13:26,840 --> 02:13:29,080
Speaker 3: week we couldn't name ten players on this roster that

2514
02:13:29,120 --> 02:13:30,560
Speaker 3: you would want back for sure next year.

2515
02:13:30,640 --> 02:13:34,400
Speaker 22: I can't name five I legitimately non I exempt rookies.

2516
02:13:34,440 --> 02:13:37,960
Speaker 38: Okay, I'll put Schamar Stewart over here, Dimitrius Knight over here,

2517
02:13:38,760 --> 02:13:42,080
Speaker 38: everybody else. I can't think of five players I'm excited

2518
02:13:42,120 --> 02:13:44,200
Speaker 38: about watching. I look at the draft classes at the

2519
02:13:44,280 --> 02:13:46,520
Speaker 38: last five years, and I see one guy after another

2520
02:13:46,560 --> 02:13:49,160
Speaker 38: who I'm still waiting for or who I know can't play,

2521
02:13:49,840 --> 02:13:52,440
Speaker 38: Like Duke Tobin stumbled into Joe Burrow.

2522
02:13:52,560 --> 02:13:55,160
Speaker 22: That's neat. He made the decision to take Jamar Chase.

2523
02:13:55,280 --> 02:13:58,720
Speaker 38: Oh god, really, what a brain buster there, Like his

2524
02:13:58,880 --> 02:14:01,800
Speaker 38: biggest successes have and for the most part obvious, even

2525
02:14:01,840 --> 02:14:05,320
Speaker 38: when he built good defenses early in the twenty twenties,

2526
02:14:05,680 --> 02:14:07,960
Speaker 38: it's because they had an abundance of money to spend

2527
02:14:08,000 --> 02:14:09,320
Speaker 38: that they went out and overpaid.

2528
02:14:10,120 --> 02:14:12,600
Speaker 3: So like again, man, dude, they can't build the roster,

2529
02:14:12,840 --> 02:14:15,800
Speaker 3: and then they can't out coach other teams if their

2530
02:14:15,880 --> 02:14:16,480
Speaker 3: roster is better.

2531
02:14:16,720 --> 02:14:19,560
Speaker 38: It's it's just it's an organization that's based on one

2532
02:14:19,600 --> 02:14:22,360
Speaker 38: thing happening, Joe Burrow being great, and even that was

2533
02:14:22,440 --> 02:14:24,560
Speaker 38: flimsy because Joe Burrow was great last year and it

2534
02:14:24,600 --> 02:14:28,680
Speaker 38: didn't work. Take away Joe Burrow and it collapses. That's

2535
02:14:28,760 --> 02:14:31,800
Speaker 38: on everybody involved. If you want to say ownership primarily,

2536
02:14:31,920 --> 02:14:34,320
Speaker 38: that's fine, that's on Duke. It's on Zach. It's on

2537
02:14:34,560 --> 02:14:37,920
Speaker 38: everyone involved. And so I have no faith in this

2538
02:14:38,000 --> 02:14:40,080
Speaker 38: head coach to figure it out with what he has

2539
02:14:40,200 --> 02:14:42,520
Speaker 38: right now. I have no We're gonna do another offseason

2540
02:14:42,600 --> 02:14:45,480
Speaker 38: of maybe Duke Toby can fix the offensive line, gotleichi

2541
02:14:45,560 --> 02:14:47,200
Speaker 38: We've been doing that for ten years, or you know what,

2542
02:14:47,520 --> 02:14:49,120
Speaker 38: this will be the offseason that he looks at the

2543
02:14:49,160 --> 02:14:51,520
Speaker 38: defense and says, got to make it better, like.

2544
02:14:51,760 --> 02:14:53,640
Speaker 3: Austin, just hit on it. You're gonna need a left tackle,

2545
02:14:53,680 --> 02:14:56,400
Speaker 3: a center, and a right guard just to start plus like.

2546
02:14:56,400 --> 02:14:58,320
Speaker 22: Eleven line, plus like eleven dudes on defense.

2547
02:14:58,440 --> 02:15:00,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, still try to fix the old line.

2548
02:15:00,880 --> 02:15:04,120
Speaker 38: So this doesn't absolve Zach Taylor from any amount of

2549
02:15:04,160 --> 02:15:06,760
Speaker 38: blame you want to give him, because we've all used

2550
02:15:06,800 --> 02:15:08,120
Speaker 38: the example of Kyle Shanahan.

2551
02:15:08,160 --> 02:15:10,560
Speaker 22: We were texting each other on Thursday night. I saw

2552
02:15:10,600 --> 02:15:11,000
Speaker 22: a coach.

2553
02:15:11,320 --> 02:15:13,800
Speaker 38: Figure it out against a good opponent on the road

2554
02:15:14,040 --> 02:15:16,880
Speaker 38: on a short week, figured it out. They didn't play great,

2555
02:15:17,320 --> 02:15:19,920
Speaker 38: but they were functional. They put themselves in a position

2556
02:15:20,000 --> 02:15:23,880
Speaker 38: to win without a thousand guys. But at the end

2557
02:15:23,920 --> 02:15:26,800
Speaker 38: of the day, the construction of the roster wasn't good

2558
02:15:26,880 --> 02:15:29,600
Speaker 38: enough last year, it's not good enough this year. Do

2559
02:15:29,720 --> 02:15:32,680
Speaker 38: we trust Duke Tobin with the Joe Burrow window open

2560
02:15:32,760 --> 02:15:35,280
Speaker 38: in twenty twenty six to build one next season?

2561
02:15:35,400 --> 02:15:37,600
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody does. And I also don't think

2562
02:15:37,680 --> 02:15:40,320
Speaker 2: that there's a hot seat for Duke Tobin. I don't

2563
02:15:40,320 --> 02:15:40,760
Speaker 2: think that his.

2564
02:15:40,920 --> 02:15:45,280
Speaker 3: Job is outside under fire by any stretch outside of

2565
02:15:45,360 --> 02:15:49,440
Speaker 3: Joe and Jamar. Who's his best draft pick, Geno Atkins.

2566
02:15:50,880 --> 02:15:54,120
Speaker 2: It's fifteen years right, exactly, But that's where you gotta go.

2567
02:15:54,440 --> 02:15:56,640
Speaker 22: Jesse Bates is a good pick. Sam Hubbard was a

2568
02:15:56,680 --> 02:15:57,000
Speaker 22: good pick.

2569
02:15:57,920 --> 02:16:02,200
Speaker 38: Terrible decision let him water, sure, I mean like, but okay,

2570
02:16:02,280 --> 02:16:03,480
Speaker 38: that's twenty eighteen.

2571
02:16:03,920 --> 02:16:05,480
Speaker 22: That's Marvin Lewis's last year's.

2572
02:16:05,280 --> 02:16:09,880
Speaker 2: Forever again exactly, And that's my point. Marvin and specifically

2573
02:16:09,920 --> 02:16:13,760
Speaker 2: evaluating defensive talent, had a knackt for that and had

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Speaker 2: an impact on the draft room. I don't know that

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Speaker 2: I trust anybody there now.

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Speaker 38: Also took John Rossie. Oh, I mean, like you know,

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Speaker 38: the the draft failures go back. I's it's a challenge.

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Speaker 38: Everybody has acknowledged it's going to be a challenge to

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Speaker 38: build the roster when you have such a huge chunk

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Speaker 38: of payroll devoted to basically one part of your team. Okay,

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Speaker 38: so you can't overpay like you did for DJ Reader.

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Speaker 38: You can't just throw a bunch of money at defense.

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Speaker 38: That's what they did and it worked to their credit.

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Speaker 38: It work so without the ability to just how you

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Speaker 38: could say somebody said, well the defense was impressive yesterday.

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Speaker 38: It was because when the Bengals cut it to eleven

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Speaker 38: and the fourth quarter, what do the defense do? Just

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Speaker 38: let the Lions go right down the field? Which was

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Speaker 38: my question all offseason. Can the defense get stops when

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Speaker 38: the game is hanging in the balance. So next year,

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Speaker 38: how's Duke Toba gonna fix the defense? How's Duke Toba

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Speaker 38: gonna fix the offensive line when he hasn't been able to?

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Speaker 2: Just gonna be a fun show today, I come out

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Speaker 2: to Westchester Twin Peaks in Westchester, Tony and Mo football

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Speaker 2: show boys.

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Speaker 22: We'll be listening.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks Ay, thanks all, Thanks guy, Thanks dude.

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Speaker 2: Yeah whatever man smeell eger uh. They're gonna have Zach

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Speaker 2: Taylor coming up right at three o'clock. Buckle in for

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Speaker 2: that one. This has been the Monday midday quarterback home

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