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Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup playoffs, the homeless won't have enough sidewalk

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Speaker 1: to sleep on. Chinakub made this Pats with his skate

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Speaker 2: Just incredible. How do you even think to do that?

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Speaker 1: There are nights like last night when the best offensive

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Speaker 2: Can the Penguins score?

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Speaker 1: And Skinner, like I said, he was okay, made some

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Speaker 1: decent saves early, only two goals against. You can live

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Speaker 1: with that, You can win with that. What a great

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Speaker 1: exciting team. The Penguins have the revenge factor dually noted

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Speaker 1: and kind of sneered at most exciting team in town

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Speaker 1: by far. And now, hey, three games left and you

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Speaker 1: can rest guys. But you know, Crossan Malkol are going

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Speaker 1: to play both games against OV. Everybody sits in the

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Speaker 1: season finale at Saint Louis on Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you just forfeit.

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Speaker 1: What if you play Washington and Ovie in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: It's only a six percent chance that Washington even makes it,

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Speaker 1: so you're telling me there's a chance.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: But like I said, give me Columbus, it's a hockey day,

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Speaker 1: it's a hockey town. Did you see all the Penguins

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Speaker 1: fans at Newark last night? It was magnificent. The main

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Speaker 1: thing is to make it and the Penguins have You

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Speaker 1: can debate potential foes and I've said my piece, but

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Speaker 1: you made it, you finished second, you got home ice.

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Speaker 2: The Penguins have done their parts.

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Speaker 1: Got a great guest today at four pm, the big man,

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Speaker 1: Elmer Soderbloom, all six pot eight of them, joins the

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Speaker 1: show at four pm. Because nobody does Penguins talk like

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Speaker 1: the super genius. Let's talk to Tommy Hockey. Okay, Tom,

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Speaker 1: I'm totally sold on Chinnakoff on a line with Sid

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Speaker 1: and because never mind the production, that line is scary

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Speaker 1: It's more than you bargain for. I'm not sure the

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Speaker 1: other lines as good as like Sid, Raquel and Rust

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Speaker 1: have bin or Chinacoff, Malkin and Novak and good to

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Speaker 1: see Novak score last night. But I think Sid, Chinacuff

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Speaker 2: I think they're a bit scary.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I think that that is the line that

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Speaker 3: can absolutely dominate for an entire playoff run for the Penguins,

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Speaker 3: have the other team on their heels. As you said

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Speaker 3: in China, Koff just everywhere you put him in the lineup,

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Speaker 3: And I mean it's Sidney Crosby, so I'm not saying that,

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Speaker 3: you know, he took him to the heights that maybe

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Speaker 3: he did with Malkin, but sid is starting to really

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Speaker 3: When Chinikoff was on his line.

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Speaker 1: Well, him and Gino smell the blood. They smell the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: That's why they're looking like they're looking. But sticking with Chinakof,

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Speaker 1: it's simple. He's the pure shooter. Sid's the pure playmaker.

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Speaker 1: Each does a little of both that the other does.

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Speaker 1: It's style and substance, go nor skate, shoot simple.

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Speaker 3: And then you add rust into the equation too, right,

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Speaker 4: Him to do.

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Speaker 1: Well, Rusty fills the gaps and that's how he's been

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Speaker 3: With this insane success in the short period of time

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Speaker 3: with Chinakov joining that top line. We talked yesterday on

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Speaker 3: the Show of Sid's kind of superstitious nature is going

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Speaker 3: to want Raquel to jump back up online one How

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Speaker 2: I think they'll open the playoffs with Sid and China Ko.

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Speaker 1: I think the would be the security blanket, could be

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Speaker 1: if Sid and Chinakov producing and like I said, really

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Speaker 1: got to keep that combination together. And Tom, the Penguins

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Speaker 1: aren't just winning, they're playing better. They're controlling play and

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Speaker 3: Absolutely what you needed to see from the Penguins because

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Speaker 3: winning the games, you know, five to four back and

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Speaker 3: forth exchanging chances, while very exciting, and Penguins had a

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Speaker 3: knack of winning those games during the regular season. That's

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Speaker 3: just it's not how playoff hockey is won. You got

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Speaker 3: great game aside from those six minute stretch. But that's

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Speaker 1: They're not good way better even than a non playoff

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Speaker 1: everything they can out of everybody. They got to win

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Speaker 1: a playoff series. But I think the potential of that,

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Speaker 1: as we're seeing is there. Hot Skinner looked because like

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Speaker 3: He looked fine. I mean, I'm just glad that they

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Speaker 3: that's two games in a row now, right, because Florida,

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Speaker 3: I think on Sunday was only two goals allowed as well,

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Speaker 3: go down somewhat. The Skinner didn't dazzle though a game

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Speaker 1: No, but hey, I don't dismiss Skinner's playoff experiences. Of course,

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Speaker 1: and that council a lot, and he will not be

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Speaker 3: No chance. I mean, this is kind of like riding

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Speaker 3: tradition is to go to the playoffs and make a

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Speaker 3: Between Skinner and Shelfs, I don't think that's even close.

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Speaker 1: But what worries me is that, you know, in those

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Speaker 1: whether it was Picard or whoever. So Skinner has one

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Speaker 3: And I wonder if, since they've gone to such a

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Speaker 3: An elimination game through Shee loofs in, but they're down

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Speaker 3: two zero or something, they wouldn't hesitate to make that switch.

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Speaker 3: I didn't say they would do that. I said that's

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 1: I I just don't at all trust Shilloffs in a

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Speaker 2: I just think his play's gone down hill. Yes, later in.

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Speaker 1: The season, obviously there's no shootouts now, which he's been

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Speaker 1: one playoff series for Vancouver. But you know, I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure how seriously I take all that, because it's like

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Speaker 2: It's good, but it's lower left.

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Speaker 3: Well, even if you take out the track record of

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Speaker 3: Skinner versus She Loves and Skinner having been there and

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Speaker 3: done that, just watching their play and again it's not

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Speaker 3: like Skinner has played like broador but he has certainly

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Speaker 1: Skinner has played like Burdoran that they both wear pads. Okay, next,

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Speaker 1: we're the debate playoff opponents, and we got Elmer Soderbloom

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Speaker 1: at four o'clock here on the Home of the Penguins

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Speaker 1: one oh five to nine.

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Speaker 5: Listen to the X everywhere you go, everywhere, tell your

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Speaker 3: And now.

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Speaker 1: We got Sid and Ov two more times, barring Washington

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Speaker 1: fluking into the playoffs, barring Ov coming back next year,

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Speaker 1: which is still up for grabs. Bit could be just

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Speaker 1: two more times Tomorrow at PPG Sunday at DC. Come

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Speaker 1: watch Sunday's game with me at the Schoolhouse Tavern in Clarage.

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Speaker 1: Hockey talk, beer, food and giveaways. What could be better?

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Speaker 1: Puck drops at three pm Sunday, double m at the

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Speaker 1: school House Tavern and Clarage. I feel like Sid and

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Speaker 1: Ov gotta fight on Sunday in case it's their last game.

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Speaker 1: They gotta drop him and go. It's all that's left

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Speaker 1: for Sid and Ov to do. On second, I'd forget it.

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Speaker 1: We need Sid for the playoffs, and Ov could put

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Speaker 1: him in the goulog. It'd be like fighting Stalin. Don't

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Speaker 1: forget in Russia, you don't fight for your right to party.

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Speaker 1: The party fights to take away your rights and wins. Tom,

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Speaker 1: who would you like to see the peng was playing

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Speaker 1: not Soroka, not Logan Thoms.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you on that, especially the Islanders,

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Speaker 3: just because of the bogey team aspect of them too.

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Speaker 3: I want the Flyers. I think Columbus is probably the

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Speaker 3: the Flyers because it's just it's such a storybook kind

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it would just be a really bad exit, no question,

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Speaker 1: It'd be an unhappy ending, to be sure.

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Speaker 2: I'll be ble.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather see him play Columbus because even though I

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Speaker 1: think they would beat Philadelphia, what if they don't.

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Speaker 3: I see that argument for sure. And there's no one

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Speaker 3: on Columbus other than Wrensky that scares you, right, I

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Speaker 3: mean Rerenski's they're leaving score By.

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Speaker 1: They got some of those kind of edgy, big rushing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess, But Philadelphia has much more younger star

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Speaker 1: Well, Zegras is a punk, but he could explode then

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Speaker 3: Martone's averaging a point per game through his first six games,

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Speaker 3: hitting it with stride for Philadelphia, Mitchikoff, even though he's

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Speaker 3: You can't sleep on him. He could still fill the net.

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Speaker 3: So Philly is probably the wrong answer as far as

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Speaker 3: what's the most favorable matchup, But it's just the one

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Speaker 3: because even though the loss would be devastating, the win

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Speaker 3: would be sweeter than anyone to beat them in the

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Speaker 3: first round and bounce them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, it's all mitigated, in my admittedly

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Speaker 2: By what happens if you lose.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Fair.

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Speaker 1: But but if they if they do play him, I

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Speaker 3: They should beat either of these teams, Columbus or Philly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Islanders would be again because the goaltender.

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Speaker 1: Novak had eleven points in December and eight points in January.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Like just his play also dictated him going back

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Speaker 3: They both looked really good last night because they know

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Speaker 3: He came back in after that, Yeah, but it wasn't

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Speaker 1: That's the one thing that does worry me is that

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Speaker 3: All that's the that's the book on Crosby. But my

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Speaker 1: Well, the thing about China Coough is that he will

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Speaker 3: There's no guarantee that Bonus would have used them differently either,

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Speaker 1: When when when Cheinakoff came in here and went right

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the team assembly has been great and Muse.

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Speaker 1: One thing about Muse and I've I've thought that he

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Speaker 1: I think he's done a great job. And one thing

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Speaker 1: Dupas and Muse kind of sat down, looked at this

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Speaker 3: And his malleability there and I am very excited.

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Speaker 3: It, I want to see how Muse approaches a series now,

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Speaker 3: There is mutual respect there now, though, So couldn't you

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Speaker 1: There's a story I were to Calum about Sid and

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Speaker 3: Now, the mutual respect just it becomes a thing naturally,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's going to be a sad chapter

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Speaker 1: when they're not when when Ovi if well, I think

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Speaker 3: He does look pretty slow down. And there's no Olympic

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Speaker 1: It sucks so bad that politics got in the way

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Speaker 1: him and Gino playing one more Olympics.

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Speaker 3: Terrible, just absolutely sucks up.

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Speaker 1: Nex's gonna talk about the Masters, not not who's gonna win,

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Speaker 2: Tom. Are you watching the Masters?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Religiously, Okay, I am not who who's winning right now?

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Speaker 3: I don't know accurately because I've been doing the show

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Speaker 3: with you. Rory was winning after day one though going

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Speaker 3: for the repeat. Oh, Rory's up by two strokes now

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Speaker 3: he's seven under.

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Speaker 1: How many guys lead on Thursday and Friday that wind

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Speaker 1: up winning though, How many go belt a belt?

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Speaker 3: Not many. Tiger used to do it all the time.

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Speaker 3: Rory's one of those guys that probably could. Though it's

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Speaker 3: got to be that kind of echelon of golfer to

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Speaker 3: contain that kind of consistency.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you know why Tiger was able to do it?

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Speaker 3: The drugs.

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Speaker 1: The drugs, Yes, Now, did you see that no phone

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Speaker 1: drew out of Augusta. That's got to be like for

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Speaker 1: years now, but they're just talking about it because Calcoveki,

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Speaker 1: who played at Augusta eighteen times, won thirteen PGA Tour events.

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Speaker 1: Now he's not playing no more correct, he's he's sixty five,

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Speaker 1: I think, but he was there visiting.

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Speaker 3: They caught him on his phone. They kicked him off

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Speaker 3: the property. Yeah, he's a major champion. He won the

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Speaker 3: British Open back what it was called the British Open,

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Speaker 3: so it's.

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Speaker 2: Only one of the US Open.

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Speaker 3: He won an Open. I either way, he's a major

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Speaker 3: champion and they kicked him off the grounds. I kind

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Speaker 3: of respect it though. From the masters though, right, like,

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Speaker 3: if you're gonna have consistency and your application of these

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Speaker 3: rules have consistency, don't matter if you're Calcaveci or not.

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Speaker 1: Well, and if you want people to observe those rules,

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Speaker 1: you have to take action like that. Yes, no question,

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Speaker 1: Like now that a former participant, a major winner, got

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Speaker 1: kicked off, nobody else could use their cell phone.

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Speaker 2: Can you even have the cell phone?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. And honestly, if I was going

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Speaker 3: to Augusta, I don't know why I wouldn't just leave

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Speaker 3: it in the car. I have such a reflex now,

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Speaker 3: Mark to just like kind of go in my pocket

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Speaker 3: and grab my phone, which is probably a terrible thing

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Speaker 3: and telling of the times we.

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Speaker 2: Live on my phone right now, I'm on my phone

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Speaker 2: way too much. But do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like I would almost have to lock it in a locker,

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Speaker 3: put it in the car. I feel like I'd accidentally

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Speaker 3: get kicked out of Augusta just by reflexively pulling it out.

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Speaker 2: You're right, he won the British Open in eighty nine.

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Speaker 3: Eighty nine British Open, Okay, but you're a golfer and

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Speaker 3: I well we got an open, right, It's half right.

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Speaker 1: I like some of the drugs Tiger uses now, yeah, So,

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Speaker 1: I mean I felt bad for Calcuveci because you know,

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Speaker 1: he has to be just really mortified, and like when

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Speaker 1: they all he did an interview and he refused to

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Speaker 1: rip Augusta.

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Speaker 3: I think he's just embarrassed. He just wants to go back,

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Speaker 3: wants to go back, and I think the embarrassment is

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Speaker 3: really the main thing that he's feeling right now, like

522
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Speaker 3: not rage at Augusta. Like I can't believe they did

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Speaker 3: that to me.

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Speaker 1: It's me.

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Speaker 3: I thought I had an exception, Like I think he's like,

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Speaker 3: I can't believe it.

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Speaker 1: If there were a lot more places where you couldn't

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Speaker 1: have cell phones, America would be a lot better off. Yes,

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Speaker 1: when I talked to like high school classes, like when

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Speaker 1: I go to North Hills to plug my mom's scholarship thing,

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Speaker 1: I always hold up the phone and say, your future

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Speaker 1: is not here. You need to learn to communicate head

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Speaker 1: to head. By the way, Shaler invited me out my

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Speaker 1: old my literal alma mater.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't.

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Speaker 3: Derek Jeter used to make all the women that he

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Speaker 3: would bang, like put their phone in a lock box

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Speaker 3: and like sign an NDA and didn't he give them

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Speaker 3: gift bass gift baskets on the way out right, And

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Speaker 3: then there's they.

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Speaker 1: Know what he gave.

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Speaker 2: I'm more intrigued by the gift bask.

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Speaker 3: I want to know what the gift were in the

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Speaker 3: gift bast Do you think they were like autographed Derek

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Speaker 3: Jeter memorabilia, like a like a headshot in a baseball card?

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Speaker 2: Do you think it?

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Speaker 1: Do you think the quality of the gift basket depending

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Speaker 1: on what the woman was willing to do.

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Speaker 3: Now we're talking like at a carnival booth, like how

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Speaker 3: there's tears to the prizes like she was a top shelf.

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Speaker 2: One, right right.

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Speaker 1: I mean if she was like a hot dog down

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Speaker 1: the hallway type girl, what if she was willing to

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Speaker 1: use the other hallway there's just no gift basket there.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, definitely. That's that's the that's the the

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Speaker 1: Numero Uno boss of all gifts. Gift baskets now be

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Speaker 1: up the uh the ESPN coverage. ESPN had it the

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Speaker 1: first two days, right, yeah, and they've been doing like

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Speaker 1: goofy stuff. We have a sound bite later from Trey Wingo.

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Speaker 1: But but you've been watching tom what have they been doing?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 3: Not so much like and the actual tournament has started,

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Speaker 3: but like with the ancillary stuff and the build up

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Speaker 3: and the par three contest, they had like Kevin hard

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Speaker 3: out there caddying for Bryson Deshambeau and Jason Kelce is

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Speaker 3: like doing all the commentating and why is allowing? I

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Speaker 3: don't know that he was on Sports Center set being

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Speaker 3: interviewed by somebody where you could see like one of

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Speaker 3: the fairways in the background and he had I gotta

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Speaker 3: admit it. Was a great suit. It was like an

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Speaker 3: Augusta themed custom suit that he had on. But still

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Speaker 3: it's just it's bizarre. You don't need to do this.

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Speaker 3: The Masters is the is.

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Speaker 2: Never never mind that you don't need to do it.

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Speaker 2: The Master doesn't want it.

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Speaker 1: And I'd be shocked if they If they keep dealing

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Speaker 1: with ESPN after the current contract runs out, well, Augusta

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Speaker 1: just doesn't want that. I can't believe Augusta what Kevin

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Speaker 1: Hart caddy for Bryson d Chambeau for a bit.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe that.

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Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, I mean, I'm sure there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of people out there who want to see it,

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Speaker 1: but Augusta doesn't.

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Speaker 3: A couple of years ago when this kind of all started,

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Speaker 3: when they went kind of more influency, and I think

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Speaker 3: because ESPN was involved, they had that dude perfect you know,

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Speaker 3: that trick shot troop of people they were on Amen Corner.

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Speaker 3: But the chair of Augusta this year spoke about that

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Speaker 3: in hindsight and was like, I like those guys, but

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Speaker 3: in retrospect that was probably a bad idea. I think

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Speaker 3: that's him telling like ESPN, like, hey, we're trying to

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Speaker 3: get away from this kind of clown show.

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Speaker 1: But what ESPN is doing is they do not care

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Speaker 1: if they defecate all over their longtime viewers. Okay, and

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Speaker 1: that goes for the people who watch the Masters. They

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Speaker 1: figure those people are going to watch anyway. So they

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Speaker 1: want to bring the bros and the idiots because there's

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Speaker 1: so many of them, and they figure if if Jason

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Speaker 1: Kelsey and Pat McAfee and Kevin Hart all jump out

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Speaker 1: of a clown card Amen corner, that'll get more ons

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Speaker 1: to watch.

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Speaker 2: So you did watch?

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Speaker 1: I thought you said you did it. I'm assuming the

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Speaker 1: clown car. I'm assuming. I mean today's the grand finale,

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Speaker 1: you last day for ESPN. I'm assuming that happens later

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Speaker 1: or maybe I know something.

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Speaker 3: Do you think they're right though? Because the Masters is

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Speaker 3: the Masters? Like, do you think they can parade clown

609
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 3: after clown out there and the diehard golfends are still

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Speaker 3: going to turn.

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Speaker 1: We're probably exaggerating the amount of of of Tom foolery,

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Speaker 1: but any.

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Speaker 3: Is too much for the men. Yeah, it's it's hallowed ground.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's got to be a sacred ask me

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Speaker 3: and so it's happen again.

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Speaker 2: Tom.

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Speaker 1: I'm not dismissing the possibility that if it's too odd,

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Speaker 1: I'm too old.

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Speaker 3: But no, because I'm not too old. And I think

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Speaker 3: this is just the wrong time and place for this,

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Speaker 3: that this is oversaturation of the bro culture, big time

622
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Speaker 3: entering here. And you say this about hockey all the time.

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Speaker 3: They're terrible with hockey, but they have amazing hockey talent.

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00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 3: SVP's great at hosting golf stuff. Andy North, great golf analyst.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they have the talent there at ESPN.

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Speaker 1: They have the people they need. They would just rather

627
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Speaker 1: go down a roote I do not prefer. But but again,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get back to the age thing, Tom, You're

629
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Speaker 1: how old?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So, I mean you're their target audience for this bro

632
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Speaker 3: like any show, and he probably yeah. I think maybe

633
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Speaker 3: a little younger, maybe a little I am not, but

634
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 3: but like, have you seen this wrestler. We got WrestleMania

635
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 3: next week. We gotta I'll get Charlotte on.

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Speaker 5: I have to.

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Speaker 1: I'll give her a ring. But he said name dropping.

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00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: I've known her since she was eight, for God's sakes. Uh,

639
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Speaker 1: But have you seen this guy, Dan Housen him, He's

640
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: like he's like this this Uh he's a comedy guy.

641
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Speaker 2: I don't think he's ever gonna wrestle for them.

642
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Speaker 1: He's a guy who kind of addresses like King Diamond,

643
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Speaker 1: the metal singer, but he does a funny version of him, Okay,

644
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: like like his catchphrase is very nice, very evil.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at him right now, right.

646
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Speaker 1: But but I saw my my buddy Hurricane Shane Helms,

647
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Speaker 1: who I worked with in wcw H. They were our

648
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Speaker 1: boy band, three Con Shane Shannon Moore, who I loved

649
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Speaker 1: and Evan courageous and uh, I saw Shane when he

650
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Speaker 1: was in town with WB because he's an agent for

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Speaker 1: them now. Just he knows more about wrestling than anybody.

652
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Speaker 1: And he asked me about Dan has and I go,

653
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Speaker 1: I don't get it, but I'm not supposed to. And

654
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Speaker 1: you know what he said, He goes, that's why you've

655
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Speaker 1: always understood what we do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there's definitely an element to that when

657
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 3: it comes to this stuff like that audience that doesn't

658
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 3: change if stupidity is stupidity without question. And again when

659
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Speaker 3: it comes to what we were talking about here with

660
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Speaker 3: the Masters, it's just it's too much like they went

661
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 3: overkill with this. Honestly, I think if ESPN had their

662
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 3: way and SVP wasn't such a legend at doing that,

663
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Speaker 3: they would rather have McAfee hosting the coverage and being

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Speaker 3: like the in between traffic cop guys.

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Speaker 1: You know, every time I think the blooms off McAfee's rose,

666
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Speaker 1: he gets bigger.

667
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Speaker 2: And that's to his credit.

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Speaker 3: Case in point with the wrestling stuff.

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Speaker 1: He was off WTV for months and I said, Okay,

670
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: he's done. They got tired of him, and now he's

671
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Speaker 1: involved in their big WrestleMania angle with Orton and Cody.

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Speaker 3: Road likes the main event, right like McAfee is in

673
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Speaker 3: the center of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean like again, Pat's another one and people

675
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Speaker 2: think I hate him. I don't.

676
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Speaker 1: I just don't like his product. Okay, I think he's

677
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Speaker 1: a good guy. I think it always makes it all

678
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Speaker 1: about himself. But there's an element of that with with

679
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Speaker 1: me as well. But he does just keep getting bigger

680
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Speaker 1: and bigger.

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Speaker 3: No question about it. I like, you don't quite get

682
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Speaker 3: it again, I'm not really falling into that target.

683
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Speaker 2: You're supposed to you know, No, no, you're supposed to.

684
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Speaker 2: I don't know about that.

685
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Speaker 3: I think it's kind of right after college is where

686
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Speaker 3: you want to grab these kids, like the twenty two

687
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Speaker 3: to twenty three year olds.

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Speaker 2: Did you see Punk called a magafee?

689
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Speaker 4: No?

690
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 3: See him Punk did? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well that's just great stuff right there. Oh, that's just

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Speaker 1: ribbing on the square one oh five nine the X.

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Speaker 3: Saturday afternoon, the Pens hit the ice against the Capitols.

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Speaker 3: Game time is three.

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Speaker 2: Our coverage start.

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Speaker 4: Listen to every game and the best penns coverage on

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Speaker 4: your home of the Pittsburgh Penguins five nine d X.

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Speaker 3: From the one oh five nine the X Weather Center.

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Speaker 3: This report is sponsored by Progressive Insurance.

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Speaker 1: Sometime this hour brought tis by our good friends at Senderova,

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Speaker 1: Schendrovic and Fisherman.

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Speaker 2: They got your bat, not your wallet, Tom? What do

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Speaker 2: we got for the trifecta?

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Speaker 3: Since this might be the last meeting between SID ANDOV

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Speaker 3: this weekend, I'm gonna make a SITD ANDOV theme trifecta.

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Speaker 3: Here there three best moments as rivals of the NHL.

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Speaker 3: I know what one got to be, but go ahead,

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Speaker 3: I think you know what number one is going to be.

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Speaker 3: But number three, let's just start at the very beginning

710
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: their first meeting ever, What a great game that was

711
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Speaker 3: to Penguin shoot out to a Ford to nothing lead

712
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: over the Capital's Capital's claw their way back. Sid scores

713
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: a goal in that first period against Washington. Ovi didn't

714
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 3: score a goal in that game, though, And at the

715
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 3: time you knew the hype between those two guys, but

716
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 3: you could have never imagined that now we'd sit here today,

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00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 3: their last meeting, on the precipice of their one hundredth meeting,

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Speaker 3: and they accomplished all that they did.

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Speaker 2: I hope they each score a goal over the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be good if what was both Sunday, But

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Speaker 1: it'd be cool, you know what, It'd be cool if

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00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: Ovi scored here and Sid scored there.

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Speaker 3: You don't think there's a chance that Sid doesn't play there,

724
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Speaker 3: do you no? Like he'll play Saturday for sure, but no.

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Speaker 1: He'll play both. He's he he would feel and I'm

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Speaker 1: not so sure I disagree. He would feel that was

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Speaker 1: disrespecting ov Gino would feel that way too.

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Speaker 3: If it was like the Devils, though, say on Saturday,

729
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Speaker 3: you think they might take a two game break going

730
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Speaker 3: into the playoffs? Like, do you think it's because it's

731
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 3: the Capitals, that's why the big guns are gonna play I.

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Speaker 1: Think if it wasn't the Capitals that they did in

733
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Speaker 1: Gino would sit out the last two games.

734
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Speaker 3: All right, Number two though, I'm just gonna kind of

735
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 3: cheat here and just go with the sixteen, seventeen and

736
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 3: eighteen series overall, just those three playoff series, which were

737
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: the de facto Stanley Cup Finals, the two best teams

738
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Speaker 3: in hockey for three straight years.

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Speaker 1: And that's when it was Bird versus Magic, Burn Magic

740
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: played in three andals. Yes, those series were the equivalent

741
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: of hockey's Bird versus Magic.

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Speaker 3: And you know what I forgot, I was looking back

743
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 3: at this and thinking back at the memories. Sid did

744
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 3: not do that much in twenty sixteen against the Capitals.

745
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 3: I think only had like two assists total in that series.

746
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 3: And then in seventeen he scored two goals in like

747
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 3: the matter of the first minute of the game one,

748
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: and Ovechkin was just dominant throughout that on tire.

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Speaker 2: You know, Ovechkin has more playoff has more points head

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Speaker 2: to head in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: T do.

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00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 3: He's a monster. But you know what number one has

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00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 3: got to be. It's the dueling hat trick game of.

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Speaker 2: Nine.

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00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 3: Cannot get better than that. Capitals, of course, ended up

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Speaker 3: winning that game and went up two oho in the

757
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 3: series because of the winning that game. But we all

758
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 3: know how that ended. Dueling hat tricks though Brandon, has

759
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: that ever been done since I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Well, the fact that we don't remember it right, well,

761
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: here's what made that even more unique.

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Speaker 4: Tom.

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Speaker 1: We were talking before how you can't you know, win

764
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Speaker 1: high scoring playoff games, and you would think things they

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Speaker 1: both got hat tricks, that that would have been a

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Speaker 1: high scoring game.

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Speaker 2: It was four to three.

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Speaker 1: There was only one goal in the game that wasn't

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Speaker 1: scored by Siderobi that was by Steckel for Washington. Because

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Speaker 1: the Capitals did win that game, and Steckel, you'll recall

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Speaker 1: us the guy who hit Sid in the head and

772
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: concussed him in that Winter Classic. That lad to sit

773
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: having like one hundred games worth of problems, you know,

774
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Speaker 1: missed that many.

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00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 3: Sixteen and seventeen were great. Obviously, in eighteen sucked because

776
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 3: they lost nine against the Capitols. I think is my

777
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 3: favorite Penguins Capital series, the doing hat trick game, the

778
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 3: Penguins down two ozh and coming back and then game

779
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 3: seven just obliterating Washington.

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Speaker 1: You know, it was great in all the clinching games

781
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: where we eliminated Washington Oh nine, sixteen and seventeen, they

782
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: were convincing. They were never in dot. We just we

783
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Speaker 1: just went out there and we're clearly the better team.

784
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Speaker 1: And when Washington went they had Pittsburgh in eighteen. That

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00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: was the nets off overtime goal games. But I got

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Speaker 1: to tell you Washington, as they proved by going on

787
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 1: to win their only Stanley Cup, we're very worthy winners.

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Speaker 2: You're right, those four series Oh.

789
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Speaker 1: Nine, sixteen, seventeen eighteen, Penn's cap sid Ov that was

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00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: the real Stanley Cup final.

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00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, a good call going back to oneid and throwing

792
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 3: that in there too, because that Capitol's team was unbelievable

793
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 3: back then as well. So every time they play each other,

794
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 3: one of them goes on to win the Stanley Cup.

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00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: And just to emphasize that, like how crazy it was

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00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: a that they book got hat tricks in that game,

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00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: two in nine and only one other goal was scored,

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Speaker 1: not by them. Mario had five goals and three assists

800
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: in the playoff game against Philadelphia in nineteen eighty nine. Okay,

801
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: I was there. It was unbelievable. I unbelievable, and we

802
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: almost lost. It was ten to seven, like we got

803
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: way ahead, but they started catching up and you're like,

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00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: oh my god, but yeah, that's still and we lost

805
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: the series because friggin Reagan, who's probably listening that that

806
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: bar in Bridgeville thirty one pitched a shutout four of

807
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: the Flyers.

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00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: Against the Penguins.

809
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: Then he comes here, wins the cup, moves here, takes

810
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: our money, opens that bar.

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Speaker 2: Kenny, I love you, but but yeah, I.

812
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: Mean all was forgiven though, right, I mean, he came out,

813
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: he turned the proper leaf eventually by becoming a Penguin.

814
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 2: Kenny's my guy. I love Kenny, but you don't win

815
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: without him. But but yeah, but he just well, you

816
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 2: know what regrets.

817
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: I've had a few, uh ninety six playoff. Should have

818
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: left Kenny in when when Tommy came back and that

819
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: snow knock on Tommy.

820
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 2: But Kenny was the freaking hot hand.

821
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but it's tough to not go back

822
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 3: to Tom Barrasso, right, I mean, it's Tom freaking Barasso.

823
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 3: I No, I mean, I understand why EJ did it,

824
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 3: but I would have left Kenny, you had It's a

825
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: tough decision to make.

826
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Speaker 1: I would let Kenny play his way out and then gone, like, Kenny,

827
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: what one thing I talk about with Kenny? When when, like,

828
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: it'll come up. I was covering the series for the

829
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Speaker 1: Post Gazette. I was in New York, right, Yeah, you

830
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: know who I stayed with. I stayed at Missy Hyde's

831
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: place during the series. It was either that her room

832
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 1: with Ball and Airy. Missy hid at the First Lady Wrestling.

833
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, no, Hanky Panky, not for lack of trying. Actually,

835
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Speaker 1: you know she you know she was seeing at the time,

836
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: Peter Nedvett really was.

837
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

838
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: Neds didn't know that I had worked with Missy and

839
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: we were friends. So Neds came over to our house

840
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: one night and you're sitting there, No, I was. I

841
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: walked through the door on my way old movie. I go, hey,

842
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: i'll be back to I'll be back at eleven have

843
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: fun kids. Yeah, and you probably like what you know,

844
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: a movie I went to see? Well, she explained, and

845
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: we laughed about the next day. I don't know why

846
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: I hadn't brought it up, because I knew they were

847
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: They saw each other very briefly, but it was like

848
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: a moment you no movie I want to see was

849
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: The Great White Hype. Okay, Samuel L. Jacksonborough you never saw?

850
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: Oh god, that that is just an all time classic

851
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: boxing movie. Missy didn't want to come with you? No, no, God, no,

852
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: well I mean or ned for that matter, No, no,

853
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: it was. I was. I would have been a not

854
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: not just a third wheel, but a squeaky one one

855
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: oh five ninety x who small too hurt to back up.

856
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 2: I just don't see it. And this comes back, and

857
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 2: I'll get more into this later too.

858
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 1: If we don't get penguin calls, then I'll torture myself

859
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 1: by talking Steelers.

860
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 2: Did you see that rumor?

861
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: Then Aaron Rodgers might come to Pitts Well, the guy

862
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: down the doll made that up, like he makes so

863
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: much stuff up, But he might come to Pittsburgh and

864
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: announced the first draft pick.

865
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, not me and Joe Green who won all them rings.

866
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: Not mel Blant.

867
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: Let's bring in the Grandpa game manager, carpet friggin bagger

868
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: who can't make up his goddamn mind. Let's honor him

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Speaker 1: with that. You know what they should do. They should

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Speaker 1: take him up on the stage, punch him in the face,

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Speaker 1: throw him off the stage. That's what they should do,

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Speaker 1: and a non screw you, You're fired.

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Speaker 5: Every WEEKD at ten am is Travis starting your day

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Speaker 5: commercial free on one