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Speaker 1: We were talking about headphones with wires being the latest in thing.

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Speaker 1: We're going backwards, it seems when it comes to headphone technology.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask our buddy Mark Saltzman about that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for tech Talk with Mark Saltz.

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Speaker 2: The machines are getting smarter. This is tech Talk brought

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Speaker 2: to you by Skynet.

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Speaker 1: You can follow him on x at Mark Underscore Saltsman.

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Speaker 1: That's Mark with a C. He is a chicken wing

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Speaker 1: connoisseur as well. He's not just about technology.

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Speaker 2: I do have that in my bio, don't I you do.

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Speaker 1: And I forget that, and I think I bring it

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Speaker 1: up every single time I'm reminded of it, just to

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Speaker 1: like check in on see what you're posting. He's a great.

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Speaker 3: Follow Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yeah, that's my vice.

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Speaker 3: I would say, even like, okay, if you know that

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Speaker 3: you hear about your death meal. What's called the death

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Speaker 3: row final meal. I used to say, like, yeah, good

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Speaker 3: filet mignon, a really nice glass of red wine with

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Speaker 3: I think just like a plate of suicide chicken wings

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Speaker 3: and a beer would be probably.

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Speaker 1: Think that's just as enjoyable. I don't think that's a vice.

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Speaker 1: Maybe up in the north, but here great for you,

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Speaker 1: like Heroin's advice down here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, fair, fair, if you're going to go there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I just it's not the healthiest. It's like a guilty

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Speaker 2: pleasure food.

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Speaker 1: That's true, it is. But in moderation you can throw us.

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Speaker 1: Of course, chicken skin in that diet.

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Speaker 2: Right exactly.

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Speaker 3: I know my wife likes to bake them, and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: that's great. First of all, she's a vegetarian, so should

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Speaker 3: be grateful that she's making any true meat for me.

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Speaker 3: But and baking them is certainly, I'm sure better than frying.

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Speaker 3: But you're still eating the chicken fat, like the wing,

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Speaker 3: like the skin, so it's not perfect. But anyhow, she

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Speaker 3: can stick to her collige.

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Speaker 1: Now we're all hungry and all of us chicken.

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Speaker 3: Wings, I know, right, I know this is not what

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Speaker 3: our segments are usually about, but we'll do with this.

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Speaker 4: One of the things that we want to talk about

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Speaker 4: was this this trend back towards wired headphones that you know,

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Speaker 4: we know that Apple took away the little three and

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Speaker 4: a half millimeter plug that they've had for so long,

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Speaker 4: that they had for so long on their on their

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Speaker 4: iPhones and iPads and things like that, and we're pushing

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Speaker 4: people towards bluetooth, or at the very least you had

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Speaker 4: to buy a dongle that fit your lightning port or

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Speaker 4: your USBC and then into U and then that you

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Speaker 4: could plug your your headphones into that.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's part of a larger trend to

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Speaker 3: become a little bit more analog. You know, there's those

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Speaker 3: who feel like it's kitschy and it's retro, and they'll

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Speaker 3: buy a flip phone or a film camera, an instant

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Speaker 3: film camera. But then there are those who it's not

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Speaker 3: the fact that it's stylish or trendy or retro.

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Speaker 2: They just think it's.

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Speaker 3: Better, uhan than the way we've been, you know, the

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Speaker 3: path that we've been going down these days. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: and then you're starting to see celebrities now wearing wire

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Speaker 3: earbuds on social media and that's helping to fuel the trends.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, I think there's something to be said.

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Speaker 3: One of the hottest gadgets at CES, the big tech

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Speaker 3: show in Vegas, was a physical like a BlackBerry like

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Speaker 3: keyboard for your phone, your iPhone, And then some companies

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Speaker 3: came out with a secondary phone where you keep your

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Speaker 3: iPhone in your purser, in your pocket, and it's basically

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Speaker 3: a dumb phone with a physical keyboard that doesn't give

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Speaker 3: you any notifications for social media, nothing, nothing's pushed. You know,

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Speaker 3: you can't play games on it. It's meant for communication

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Speaker 3: full stop. And some people like that.

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Speaker 4: I get it, you know, they have to reinvent just

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Speaker 3: What's sold is new again, Yeah, I mean, I get it.

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Speaker 3: And blackberries, I mean, they really they dropped the ball

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Speaker 3: of supporters. So I mean, I think by now many

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Speaker 3: of us are used to typing on a on a

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Speaker 3: they want a physical, quirity keyboard. But yeah, just the

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Speaker 3: analog lifestyle is a trend that we're starting to see

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Speaker 3: these kind of pop up once in a while.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 3: I've been covering tech for thirty two years, so I've

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Speaker 3: seen a lot of things come and go, you know,

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Speaker 3: but it's not across the board. I don't think we're

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Speaker 3: going to go back to boob tubes anymore, you know,

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Speaker 3: the TV's with the junk in the trunk. I think

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Speaker 3: we're we're happy with our flat panels, but yeah, headphones

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Speaker 3: and you don't have to charge up the batteries like

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Speaker 3: that's a pain too, you know, with wireless it's not

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Speaker 3: always better, right.

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Speaker 1: Why is it called a querity keyboard? I understand it's

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Speaker 1: the first six letters.

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Speaker 2: At the top, that's why.

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Speaker 1: But why not just some other letter grouping.

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Speaker 3: As other languages defin Yeah, right, Well, other language keyboards

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Speaker 3: don't have quirdy they right, you know, obviously, but that's

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Speaker 3: an English thing, so that's why it's called.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but most people just say physical keyboard opposed to

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Speaker 2: a virtual on screen keyboard. Quirdy. Yeah, it's just the

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Speaker 2: first sixth life.

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Speaker 1: It's not like it's a natural word with that W

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Speaker 2: Well, it works, I think, Cordy, I think I'm.

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Speaker 1: Going to start a petition to change the way we

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Speaker 1: refer to the quardy keyboards.

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Speaker 2: My sense of protest going on?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hungry for some sort of protest. Oh boy, you

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Speaker 1: we need, I know, right, another issue to divide.

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Speaker 2: Us, all margin polarizing.

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Speaker 4: You obviously have all kinds of gadgets probably laying around

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Speaker 4: the house. You probably have stacks of gadgets. How do

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Speaker 4: you keep them out of the bedroom for.

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Speaker 1: A rest or do you rest? You?

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Speaker 2: Do you? Yeah? I know where Shannon's mind went. No.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it is true that my office looks like a

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Speaker 3: Best Buy exploded. That is just an occupational hazard as

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Speaker 3: I review electronics. But yes, So I wrote a piece

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Speaker 3: last week which I know what you're referring to, and

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Speaker 3: thank you for the inadvertent plug, on why you shouldn't

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Speaker 3: bring tech to the bedroom, and I interviewed a sleep

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Speaker 3: expert on this, and so, yeah, it boils down to

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Speaker 3: two main reasons. One is, and I'm sure your listeners

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Speaker 3: a anti blue light, like it's that warmer yellowy light,

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Speaker 3: and your phone may have it, your iPad E readers

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Speaker 3: often have that. But the second reason why you're you

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Speaker 3: of regardless of the blue light, and that is because

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Speaker 3: we are stimulated by what is the contents of your phone.

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Speaker 3: So if you've got your phone as an alarm clock

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Speaker 3: did somebody like my Instagram post of my dinner the

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Speaker 3: photo uploaded of my dinner no chicken wings and cauliflower bites?

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Speaker 2: Or is it an email from that annoying worse to

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Speaker 3: Right, So you're you're stimulated either because you feel like,

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Speaker 3: So you're you're supposed to create a sleep sanctuary where

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Speaker 3: us have in our bedroom because they're so inexpensive. There's

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Speaker 3: still a light coming. You know that you're behind your eyelids,

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Speaker 3: the very least, if you do like to fall asleep

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you know this. There's obviously the.

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Speaker 3: Tech or scientific reasons why you don't want to bring

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Speaker 3: tech into the bedroom. But you know other things you

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Speaker 3: can do, which I called out in the article, is

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Speaker 3: obviously limit how much caffeine you drink later in the day.

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Speaker 3: will be a more disruptive sleep. And you shouldn't be

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Speaker 3: drinking anyways before you go to because if you're my age,

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Speaker 3: then you're going to get up to pee anyways.

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Speaker 2: Half the night, so why not reduce that. Don't have a.

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Speaker 3: Big meal or a spicy meal, so no chicken wings.

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, this keeps coming up.

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Speaker 2: Ten pm. Yeah, and so yeah, there's a few things.

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Speaker 3: I listed a bunch of techie things and non techie

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Speaker 3: things in that article. If you want to google why

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Speaker 3: you shouldn't bring tech to the bed bedroom. You'll see

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Speaker 3: my article. Yeah, so, I hope it's helpful because you

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Speaker 3: need a good sleep. Don't you feel like a million

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Speaker 2: Have a great seat? How much better?

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Speaker 1: I don't leave.

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Speaker 3: Too many of us are going to bed fully awake

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Speaker 4: Excellent stuff, Mark, Thanks, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me our little sleep coach. I love

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Speaker 2: that