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Speaker 3: get to your talkbacks today in our number two right

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Speaker 3: after we talk to our guy from Fox nineteen, Joe Danoman.

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Speaker 3: Joe Daniman has been everywhere at spring training. The folks

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Speaker 3: got a ton to catch up with our guy Joe

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Speaker 3: Daniman with including a very big night of college basketball

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Speaker 3: ahead this evening as well. Tonight we'll see multiple multiple

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Speaker 3: local teams and a lot of bubble action happening as well.

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Speaker 3: Of course, one of the most talked about teams right

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Speaker 3: now in all of college basketball is the Miami RedHawks.

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Speaker 3: They host the Toledo Rockets tonight. A win and this

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Speaker 3: thing just keeps on rolling for Miami, it would get

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Speaker 3: them to thirty and zero on the season. A loss

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Speaker 3: would make them a point of conversation every single day.

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Speaker 3: Based on earlier conversations this week of what Bruce Pearl

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Speaker 3: had to say about Miami and if they don't win

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Speaker 3: their conference tournament that they shouldn't be in and it's

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Speaker 3: led to a lot of back and forth. Is led

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Speaker 3: to a lot of conversations on this show. I saw earlier.

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Speaker 3: The athletic director of the Miami RedHawks, David Saylor, was

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Speaker 3: on Wake Up Barstool this morning. He's all over the place.

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Speaker 3: The red Hawks are over the place. Would you go

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Speaker 3: America's team?

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Speaker 4: I don't know that I have the ability to speak

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Speaker 4: for America. I think, you know, the Auburn area probably

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Speaker 3: I think Bruce Pearl is finding out that there are

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Speaker 3: a lot of Miami fans out there.

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Speaker 4: I don't think Cincinnati fans would say they're rooting for

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Speaker 3: I mean, now you're rooting hard for the RedHawks. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: for all of our time. Oh yeah, you know, our

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Speaker 3: guy Kyle Decker was on last week. He's pushing and

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Speaker 3: making a push to increase your Twitter followers. I can

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Speaker 3: imagine that that Kyle would want to see you coming

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Speaker 3: out the Miami haters using your platform, which I'm sure

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Speaker 3: you would. Yeah, I'm sure you speaking of coming at people,

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Speaker 3: oh and using my platform.

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Speaker 4: You want to know who should be ashamed of themselves?

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Speaker 4: The coaches of the Horizon League. Oh, because there was

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Speaker 4: a complete travesty yesterday when it was announced that Donovan

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Speaker 4: o Day, Oh Day all Day, the great guard for

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Speaker 3: One of the more disgusting developments happening.

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Speaker 4: They voted Donnovan O Day second Team Horizon League. Huh,

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Speaker 4: he's averaging eighteen points a game. He's shooting fifty percent

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Speaker 4: from the field.

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Speaker 3: Sure.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I did some research and I

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Speaker 4: may or may not have been helped by the Great

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Speaker 4: Reverend Richard Browing on this absolutely, But you know Ken

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Speaker 4: Well, he started doing all league teams in twenty thirteen

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Speaker 4: and twenty fourteen, Ken himself. And you know when whenever

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Speaker 4: the Horizon League Player of the Year. Sure, every single

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Speaker 4: season for twelve years straight, Odey was top two. Like

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Speaker 4: He didn't even make first team in the Horizon League

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Speaker 4: First team All Conference team. It's disgusting, it's embarrassing. And

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Speaker 4: in steels. And these coaches, guys like Doug Gottlieb didn't

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Speaker 4: who's he voting for? This is a bunch of nonsense.

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Speaker 4: I got of an O Day should be first team

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Speaker 3: I would go as far as blasphemy.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't walk across the street to see Gottlieb or

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Speaker 4: Wright State? What's his now? I bet he didn't vote? Oh,

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Speaker 4: Clint Colonel Sergeant Hurdle. Gosh, yeah, he makes Clint Hurdle

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Speaker 4: look good, and that's not easy to do.

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Speaker 3: TJ. Birch Att Wright State good player average just over

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Speaker 3: eleven points a game, couple assistant game. He made first team?

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Speaker 3: Why All League? The other players that I saw on

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Speaker 3: He was number ten in scoring in the Horizon League.

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Speaker 3: Corey had not He's pretty good. He leads the league

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Speaker 4: TJ Birch, No, No, something good DeShawn Good? Yeah, more

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Speaker 4: like Deshaun average.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Brody Robinson at Oakland. He's fifth in the

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Speaker 3: league in scoring. Yeah, somehow, oh Day all Day number

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Speaker 3: one of the more disrespectful things we've seen as of late.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is the dude who came over from

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Speaker 3: Who should be the average responsible parties that are six

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Speaker 3: it's the coaches. I mean, because I mean we saw

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Speaker 3: Gottlieb don't know anything. There's this disgusting behavior. I don't

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Speaker 3: get it from the Horizon League. Should be first team

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Speaker 3: All Horizon. I agree. College basketball outside of the snub

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Speaker 3: Any relation to Tucker, it's a great question. But I'd

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Speaker 3: Is Mitch a good guy? Bad guy? Do they like him?

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Speaker 3: Do they hate him? Down there? What does this mean

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Speaker 3: going forward? We'll talk about more college basketball today again,

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Speaker 3: including the Big Slate tonight, and we'll talk about what

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Speaker 3: Richard Patino Junior had to say last night at the

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Speaker 3: Coaches Show when he was asked point blank, a lot

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Speaker 3: of people out there think you're gonna up and bolt.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Sue who asked the question last night

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Speaker 3: The Atlanta Falcons the atl Austin They're gonna play a

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Speaker 4: Two of the Bengals scheduled road opponents, the Washington Commanders

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Speaker 4: in the Atlanta Falcons, are set to host international games,

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Speaker 4: and many believe there's a very good chance that the

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Speaker 4: Bengals would be one of those. Now, there's also this

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Speaker 4: the following season twenty twenty seven, that they could be

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Speaker 4: waiting for that. Now, a couple of other teams on

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Speaker 4: the Falcons schedule, the Kansas City Chiefs and the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 4: They have marketing rights in Spain. You might know, the

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Speaker 4: NFL has certain countries you're allowed to market in, and

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Speaker 4: for the Bengals is one of them.

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs and Bears are in Spain.

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Speaker 4: Now, I would imagine that the Falcons would vehemently protest

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Speaker 4: a draw, although it is an easy drive for a

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Speaker 4: put the Bears as the favorite, just because they're kind

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Speaker 3: The Atlanta Falcons in the news. Atlanta Hawks found themselves

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Speaker 3: who's now a Washington Wizard before he's even played a

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Speaker 3: from me. But the Atlanta Hawks have collaborated Austin and

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Speaker 3: doing a Magic City Night, Magic City Monday, Magic City Monday.

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Speaker 3: Now they announced a Magic City Monday. They've got gear

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Speaker 3: love to the quote cultural institution with appearances from legends

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Speaker 3: like Ti, the Establishment's famous chicken wings merch and more.

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Speaker 3: Nowhere in the release did the Hawks acknowledge Magic City's

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Speaker 3: fame as a strip club, right, And that got Charlotte

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Speaker 3: this is disrespectful to women. I believe Luke Cornett plays

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Speaker 3: for the Spurs. The Spurs, Yes, I'm sorry, he said. Quote.

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Speaker 3: The NBA should desire to protect an esteem women, many

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Speaker 3: atmosphere that is protective and respectful of the daughters, wives, sisters,

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Speaker 3: how a woman finds her way into adult entertainment industry,

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Speaker 3: many in this space appearing experience abuse, harassment, and violence

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Speaker 3: to which they should never be subjected. What do you

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Speaker 3: make of this id Magic City? It is very much

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Speaker 3: a It is a cultural institution. And in Atlanta, Yes,

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Speaker 3: I mean, my guy Tarren talks about Magic City almost

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Speaker 4: Like he goes to Atlanta. He goes to Magic City

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Speaker 4: like that's he loves it there. It's a destination. They

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Speaker 4: are known world famously for their chicken wings. True, I

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Speaker 4: don't know that the women that dance at this club

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Speaker 4: of like the pinnacle right of strip clubs.

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Speaker 3: I think it's pretty good money if you're in that industry.

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Speaker 3: This is this is your spot.

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Speaker 4: GQ called Magic City America's most important club.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow.

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Speaker 4: Now, for research purposes, I went to the Magic City

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Speaker 4: I would need to learn more, and maybe our conversation

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Speaker 3: kick things off next on the Home of the Bengals

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Speaker 3: ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Alexaport, No one covers the Bengals like ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 5: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, and.

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Speaker 6: I will, and it'll be all my goodness sakes destroyed

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Speaker 4: That was the call yesterday on Red's TV featuring John

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Speaker 3: right now, Austin, Remember Jerrekson Profar? I remember him? Did

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Speaker 3: that would be a substantial loss before the season gets underway.

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Speaker 3: It is tag day across the National Football League. Teams

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Speaker 3: wouldn't pay him that sure, because it might come across

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Speaker 3: as a very team friendly deal, to which a lot

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Speaker 3: of people would say, well, how can't the Bengals get

435
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Speaker 3: that done when they need so much on defense? And

436
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Speaker 3: that might be the case, or if you go buy

437
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Speaker 3: other projections. For an instance, the athletics Daniel Popper Austin

438
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Speaker 3: predicted Trey Hendrickson to the Chicago Bears for a three

439
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Speaker 3: year ninety nine million dollar deal. Now, if the Bears

440
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Speaker 3: or someone went and gave Trey Hendrickson thirty three million dollars,

441
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Speaker 3: good for you. You played the system and it worked.

442
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Speaker 3: But I lean to John Shearon's view of that, in

443
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Speaker 3: all likelihood, he's not going to get the money he

444
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Speaker 3: was hoping. He's gonna sign a lower deal, and it

445
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Speaker 3: it's what happens, it will have people in Cincinnati saying, well,

446
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Speaker 3: why couldn't the Bengals get that done?

447
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Speaker 9: Well?

448
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Speaker 4: And I think you also might have to keep in

449
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Speaker 4: mind that the price for Trey Hendrickson in Cincinnati the

450
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Speaker 4: Bengals price he's charge and may not be the price

451
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Speaker 4: he's charging somewhere else, sure, because he may just view

452
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Speaker 4: it the same way that maybe the Bengals do, which

453
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Speaker 4: is like, yeah, you know, I don't want to be here,

454
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Speaker 4: it's time for a change, and so in order to

455
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Speaker 4: get me to stay, I'm gonna have to charge you

456
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Speaker 4: a little bit more. I don't know, but yeah, I

457
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Speaker 4: think Trey is gonna get out there and realize, yeah,

458
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Speaker 4: people are interested, but nobody's willing to pay me like

459
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Speaker 4: the top flight guy that I think I am. And

460
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Speaker 4: it's not to take away from Trey. I think a

461
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Speaker 4: lot of people have almost like become critical of him

462
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Speaker 4: as a player. There's nothing to be critical of Trey

463
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Speaker 4: Hendrickson of as a player other than not the best

464
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Speaker 4: run defender. But you can live with that because of

465
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Speaker 4: the crazy amount of sacks and the pressures and the

466
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Speaker 4: stuff that he's had to deal with. He's not a

467
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Speaker 4: perfect player. He's not at the level in my opinion

468
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 4: of Crosby and Garrett and some of those others. But

469
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Speaker 4: he's been a really productive player. He's been an incredible

470
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Speaker 4: guy in the community. I mean, I don't know if

471
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 4: I've said this on the air or not, but I

472
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 4: have a friend who's very young daughter has cancer and

473
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 4: there've been in and out of the hospital and all

474
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 4: this stuff dealing with it. In one day, randomly you

475
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Speaker 4: get a knock on the door and Trey Henderson shows up.

476
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Speaker 3: This was like a month ago, and he's.

477
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Speaker 4: Wearing a Bengals jersey and he spends time with her

478
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 4: and talks to the family. This is an unbelievable person

479
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 4: off the field as well. There's no reason to disparage

480
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Speaker 4: the guy on the way out of the door. It

481
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 4: just feels like this has come to an end, and

482
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Speaker 4: you can't be mad about it.

483
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Speaker 3: It's the best free agent signing in the history of

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Speaker 3: this franchise. Yep.

485
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Speaker 4: I mean the production you've gotten from him, and obviously

486
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 4: the distractions and stuff that have come with that frustrating

487
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Speaker 4: towards the end. But you can't look back on the

488
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Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson era and say, damn, that wasn't a success.

489
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Speaker 3: It was. Yeah, it's just time to move on to me.

490
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Speaker 3: It just it signifies, or it will signify the end

491
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Speaker 3: of a great tenure, but also a I don't want

492
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Speaker 3: to say confusing, but just clunky one as well. The

493
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Speaker 3: way it's ended, sure, and the way it finished and

494
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Speaker 3: the numbers and the way he produced. And you know,

495
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Speaker 3: you asked me before the show today and I go back,

496
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Speaker 3: I mean, how looking back on it now, him showing

497
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: up to training camp like he was getting ready to

498
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Speaker 3: go play eighteen holes, holding his own media account like

499
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 3: it just it's such a crazy, weird ending, you know.

500
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Speaker 3: And here's an organization of the Bengals that did take

501
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Speaker 3: a chance on Trey Hendrickson, and yes, they were rewarded

502
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: for that, and I think rewarded Trey Hendrickson as well. Sure,

503
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Speaker 3: But what an odd ending to this chapter for the

504
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Speaker 3: Bengals and Trey Hendrickson. Just again how it ended I

505
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Speaker 3: would have And again, no endings are ever really good.

506
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 3: There's never really the mutual where all sides are happy.

507
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: But what a strange way as this kind of all

508
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 3: seemingly will be coming to an end over the next

509
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Speaker 3: few hours with the Bengals and with Trey Hendrickson. Now

510
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Speaker 3: it draws into light I think the importance of the

511
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Speaker 3: Bengals getting it right this offseason and the pressure that

512
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Speaker 3: that puts on the team going into next year. Adam

513
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Speaker 3: Schefter joined the folks earlier this morning on Sportsmanlike on

514
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Speaker 3: ESPN Radio, and we'll give you a little bit of

515
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Speaker 3: that clip as it pertains to Joe Burrow and the

516
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Speaker 3: Bengals when we return. Also your phone calls five one, three,

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Speaker 3: seven nine, fifteen thirty. That's next on ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: From the Court to the Cage, Diamond to the Dome.

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Speaker 2: He brings the heat Moegar today at three pm on

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: Here we go as we continue on it's our one

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Speaker 3: since he three sixty thanks to Skyline Chili, Joe Daniman

524
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Speaker 3: kicks off our number two of your talkbacks. We've got

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Speaker 3: Reds baseball in a loaded college basketball night to get

526
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Speaker 3: to in our number three. Before we get to any

527
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Speaker 3: of that, a little bit here on Joe Burrow with

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Speaker 3: the Bengals, and then your phone calls to finish up

529
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Speaker 3: our number one, So stick with us on hold. We'll

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Speaker 3: get to those in just a few moments. Earlier this afternoon,

531
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Speaker 3: earlier this morning, if you will right here on this station,

532
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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I know, I got a been

533
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Speaker 3: up for a while. I've been up for a long time.

534
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Speaker 3: When did you wake up this morning? Usually I'm about

535
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Speaker 3: seven o'clock? Okay, when did you wake up this morning?

536
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Speaker 3: I'll ask again, since he didn't answer that question, seven fifteen. Okay,

537
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 3: kids slept in today. Bearcats have a late start tonight.

538
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 3: Will you be taking a nap? I don't take naps.

539
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 3: I can't do it. Okay. I feel worse after the

540
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 3: nap than before than nap. This was actually though a

541
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Speaker 3: piece of audio this morning on Unsportsmanlike right here on

542
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Speaker 3: ESPN Radio from Adam Schefter as he was talking a

543
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Speaker 3: little bit about the Bengals and Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 10: I expect Joe Burr to beat Cincinnati and then I

545
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 10: think this year becomes a referendum on what he wants

546
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 10: to after this year. I think it's a year by year.

547
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Speaker 10: I think if he's happy and Cincinnati, all is good.

548
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 10: I think if there's another rocky year and there's more losing,

549
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 10: all options are on the table.

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Speaker 3: So short and sweet, that's from Adam Schefter, take with

551
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 3: it what you want. And again I'm not at the

552
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Speaker 3: point where I'm like, Okay, it's it's the Andrew Lucker

553
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 3: or Joe Burrow's gonna want out of Cincinnati. But whether

554
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Speaker 3: that is accurate or not to me Austin that audio clip,

555
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 3: that's how the Bengals have to operate now and going forward.

556
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 3: That's all I'm asking. The Bengals have to operate with

557
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 3: the urgency that if they don't figure this out, they

558
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 3: could mess up what they have at quarterback.

559
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow will not tolerate an aggressive anything other than

560
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 4: aggressive pursuit of a championship. And if you do not

561
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 4: align with what he needs and his philosophy, which should

562
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 4: be your philosophy. Correct if these two do not align,

563
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 4: then who could blame Joe Burrow?

564
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Speaker 11: Much?

565
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Speaker 4: Like I've said for years, when it comes to Carson Palmer,

566
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Speaker 4: Carson Palmer Bengals fans should love him because he was

567
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 4: demanding more from the organization. And this same situation's happening

568
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Speaker 4: with Joe Burrow if they screw it up again. And

569
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Speaker 4: so the urgency of this offseason cannot be understated. When

570
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 4: it comes to draft picks, when it comes to free agency,

571
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 4: when it comes to extensions, when it comes to coaching decisions,

572
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 4: everything is on the line because if you screw this

573
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 4: up again, you are risking your entire franchise, the face

574
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Speaker 4: of your franchise, the future of your franchise, your season

575
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Speaker 4: ticket holders, your fan base, your potential future stadium, all

576
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 4: of it hangs in the balance by what you do

577
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Speaker 4: this offseason.

578
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Speaker 3: And that's my thing. I don't care who reports it.

579
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Speaker 3: I don't care if it's Adam Schefter. I don't care

580
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Speaker 3: if it's someone local. I don't care if it's someone

581
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Speaker 3: that doesn't even live in this country. I don't know

582
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Speaker 3: the lengths in which these other folks know what Joe

583
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 3: Burrow would or wouldn't do. But you hit the nail

584
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Speaker 3: on the head. Anything less than the aggressive pursuit of

585
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: a championship, and you're rolling the dice on this becoming

586
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 3: a reality, and that, to me, among anything else that

587
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 3: happens this offseason, that should be the driving force on

588
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 3: which the Bengals operate between now and the start of

589
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 3: the regular season. Tip of the cap, as we mentioned yesterday,

590
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 3: they made the layup, Dalton Reisner. That's a layup. What

591
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: else are you going to do? You got to move

592
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 3: back a little bit, hit a mid range, you got

593
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 3: to hit the free throws, you got to hit a three,

594
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 3: maybe come up with a half court shot, maybe come

595
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 3: up with something that you don't even see coming. And

596
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 3: it completely changes the trajectory of where this team is going.

597
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: But are you in a position, if you are this

598
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 3: organization to say, Joe Burrow's happy here, We don't need

599
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 3: to to operate out of our norm You're not. You

600
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 3: have to operate with the urgency that this could be

601
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Speaker 3: a reality if you don't get this fixed.

602
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Speaker 4: You know, Duke Tobin said this week when or last

603
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Speaker 4: week when he was at the Combine that he hasn't

604
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 4: had a chance to sit down with Joe Burrow and

605
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Speaker 4: do a full debrief.

606
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 3: Huh it's March.

607
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Speaker 12: Now.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know what you know Joe

609
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 3: is doing. He says he talks to Joe a lot.

610
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 4: That's fine, and maybe that to me could be indicative

611
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 4: that it could be slightly overblown because if Joe's not

612
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Speaker 4: in his office, or maybe Duke is lying about it

613
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 4: and they have I don't know. But you know what

614
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 4: I am most interested in, and I believe this will happen,

615
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Speaker 4: is does Duke Tobin operate like a guy who feels

616
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 4: like he has to win now?

617
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 3: I should?

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Speaker 13: You know.

619
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Speaker 4: I was listening to Lewis Riddick talking about the way

620
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Speaker 4: that gms and front offices operate, especially when it comes

621
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Speaker 4: to positional value in the draft, and there are teams

622
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Speaker 4: who are thinking years down the line, and we'll say, okay, well,

623
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Speaker 4: I'm not going to take a safety at number ten

624
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 4: because we need the edge rusher. And the Bengals could

625
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 4: be applicable to this, right Caleb Downs or Reuben Bain.

626
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Speaker 4: We've talked about it a lot. Now, guys that are

627
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Speaker 4: new on the job and have a new head coach

628
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 4: and all this, they might be thinking, Okay, we need

629
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Speaker 4: the cheap labor right away.

630
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Speaker 3: We need to you know, we're not gonna.

631
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Speaker 4: Worry about years down the line, and we're gonna get

632
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 4: the best player available and it might be Caleb Downs yep,

633
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 4: or there are other guys who are thinking, shoot, we

634
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 4: gotta win right now. I'm not worried about that down

635
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 4: the line with Caleb Downs and what he's gonna cost me.

636
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 4: I need to get this, dude, and that's where the

637
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 4: Bengals need to be. That's where the Bengals need to

638
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 4: operate out of I'm curious if Duke Tobin operates that way.

639
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 4: Does he operate like a guy who knows if I

640
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 4: don't fix this, I'm going to lose my job. I

641
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 4: think that's how Zach Taylor's operating has to.

642
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Speaker 3: And I think if you're like you mentioned, not having

643
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Speaker 3: the conversation, I don't see Joe Burrow as the guy

644
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 3: that's gonna say, dude, can we talk please. I think

645
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 3: Joe's the types are gonna say, Okay, I'm gonna wait,

646
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna sit back, I'm gonna see if things are different.

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00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna see if things are changing, let's see what happens. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And if that's the case, then Duke should be on

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Speaker 3: the phone saying, hey, can we get together. Can we

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Speaker 3: talk about some things before we really get into the

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Speaker 3: meat of this offseason. That's how I hope it's going,

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Speaker 3: not the latter. Let's take a break, let's come back.

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Speaker 3: Let's finish hour one with you. Your phone calls will

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Speaker 3: happen next five, one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty

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Speaker 3: on the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Tony Pike Cincy three sixty on ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back Cincy three to sixty thanks to Skyline Chilly

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Speaker 3: in our number one on the Home of the Bengals,

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station. Joe Daniman joins us

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Speaker 3: at the top of hour number two. Before that, let's

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Speaker 3: grab a couple of phone calls. Here, Oscar is calling in.

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Speaker 3: What's up? Oscar?

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Speaker 14: My god?

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Speaker 12: What's good?

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Speaker 11: What's good?

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Speaker 12: Which?

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 9: Question?

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Speaker 15: So for us, for us of people who don't understand

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Speaker 15: if they don't franchise train so we just loose him

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Speaker 15: for we just lose him and not receive anything.

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Speaker 3: Is there is there a chance Austin at the compensatory

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Speaker 3: pick if he does walk in free agency?

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Speaker 16: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: There's not a high pick.

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Speaker 4: There are some things that would have to happen, but

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Speaker 4: next season, next Dragon, not this year. They would get

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Speaker 4: a compensatory pick for Trey, depending on if a certain

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Speaker 4: stuff is met, but more than likely nothing.

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Speaker 15: Oh my god, yeah god, all right, that's okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 15: there's about that's about part for part of course.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, sir, that's That's the thing that I think

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Speaker 3: a lot of people are going to wrestle with, is well,

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Speaker 3: if it got to this point, should they have gotten

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Speaker 3: it done last year? And who know, Like we don't

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Speaker 3: know though, what the offer or what offers ever were

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Speaker 3: for Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 4: I remember talking to people, uh this time last year,

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Speaker 4: and they all told me they need to trade him

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Speaker 4: right now. And and these are people that I trust,

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Speaker 4: and I was still over here thinking, okay, well maybe

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Speaker 4: the defense will be better and Trey if all right,

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Speaker 4: But but they all told me they need to trade

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Speaker 4: him right now. His value will never be higher and

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Speaker 4: this is why. And they thought that they were going

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Speaker 4: to be a lot better on defense. They were wrong, yep,

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Speaker 4: And so they've missed the boat on that. And then

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Speaker 4: he got hurt and his value cratered and there's just

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Speaker 4: not any more value there for him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's where we're at right now. Mark, what's

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Speaker 3: going on.

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Speaker 9: And how's it going?

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Speaker 1: Two things.

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Speaker 9: I won't make a point about the Reds and I

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Speaker 9: got a Bengals point. My Reds point is I need

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Speaker 9: one more thing. I need a left handed reliever at

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Speaker 9: the back end of the bullpee pull pen that can

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Speaker 9: throw some meat, because I think you need two guys.

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Speaker 9: I think I like two guys that can close games out.

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Speaker 9: They bought put Gon back and that was fine. He

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Speaker 9: did a pretty good job last year, except when he

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Speaker 9: had to face the middle of the lineup. Okay, but

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Speaker 9: I would like a left that could do the same

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Speaker 9: thing because I think you need two two guys can call.

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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: And then on the Bengals front, aside from the players

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Speaker 9: that they need on defense to help them out, you know,

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Speaker 9: aside from the big picture, I would like to see

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Speaker 9: a philosophy change with them. It's like, if you need

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Speaker 9: a guard, let's draft a guard. If you need a safety,

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Speaker 9: let's draft a safety. You know, let's stop drafting tackles

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Speaker 9: and making them guards. And like with dak Seel, I

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Speaker 9: think it was a slock corner in college and then

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Speaker 9: they bought him, they drafted him, and then wanted them

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Speaker 9: to play safety. So aside from all the needs that

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Speaker 9: you know, whatever position we need, let's draft that position.

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Speaker 9: Like they need a safety, So whoever the best safety

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Speaker 9: is at the time that they're picking, Let's draft the safety.

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Speaker 9: Let's not draft a cornerback and Jen try to convert

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Speaker 9: into a safety. You know how about that that novel concept?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now I get that going forward.

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Speaker 9: So that was my point and then I'll get all

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Speaker 9: of this to the rest of the show.

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Speaker 3: Mark, thank you, And I think that goes to the

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Speaker 3: whole conversation about Duke Tobin of biggest need versus best

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Speaker 3: player available and can cannot mess, cannot match for this

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Speaker 3: team this year at number ten in the draft. One

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Speaker 3: more and then we'll get a break and we'll get

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Speaker 3: to Joe Danaman. What's up, John? That's a new fellows.

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Speaker 3: How are you good?

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Speaker 9: How are you?

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Speaker 18: We're hanging in there, hanging in there, and this disastrous

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Speaker 18: winter we're dealing with it. As far as Trey Hendrickson,

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Speaker 18: I would just move on. And as far as a

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Speaker 18: compensatory pick, I mean that gets kind of worked out

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Speaker 18: in the wash, depending on what they do as signing

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Speaker 18: free agency free agents themselves. So you know that's already

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Speaker 18: something that could be determined later. But I just think

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Speaker 18: it's time to move on from him. I think you

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Speaker 18: could spend the money more wisely for a younger player

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Speaker 18: and a sending player like Odafe Olway.

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Speaker 11: From the Trigers, who were probab cost you.

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Speaker 18: Half the money. He's five years younger. He's as sending

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Speaker 18: that to me, the wiser use of money. And look,

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Speaker 18: the defense at times looked better without him last year.

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Speaker 18: I mean, the defense played better than the second half

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Speaker 18: of the year, or at least the final third of

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Speaker 18: the year, not saying much, but the final third of

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Speaker 18: the year compared to the first two thirds of the year,

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Speaker 18: and he was nowhere to be found. And again lack

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Speaker 18: of leadership. I mean last year in training camp, like

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Speaker 18: you said, Tony shows up looking like he's ready.

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Speaker 1: To play golf.

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Speaker 18: And the year before, te Higgins and Jamar Chase had

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Speaker 18: contract issues, but they were in camp the entire time

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Speaker 18: and they were ready to go when they got the

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Speaker 18: contracts done. I kind of was disappointed that Henderson there's

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Speaker 18: no way to be found for most of the training camp.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that to me, it just and that's why I

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Speaker 3: went back. It was just a weird ending to the

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Speaker 3: Hendrickson tenure in Cincinnati, a tenure that brought a lot

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Speaker 3: of good and as Austin said earlier, he can go

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Speaker 3: down as arguably the best free agent signing in franchise history.

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Speaker 3: Just a weird ending to what at once was a

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Speaker 3: very promising and productive tenure as a Bengal.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: I mean, obviously they're kind of built like the Colts

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Speaker 18: were twenty years ago. Great quarterbacks, score a lot of

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Speaker 18: points and then have edge rushers that you know, kind

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Speaker 18: of close the game that the last couple of years

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Speaker 18: haven't been able to do that because they can never

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Speaker 18: quite get separation because their defense has been so bad.

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Speaker 18: But I think it'd be time to just move on

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Speaker 18: and go for someone younger, cheaper, who can be as productive,

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Speaker 18: if not more productive, and then obviously, you know, try

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Speaker 18: to build through the draft and whatever other free.

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Speaker 3: Agents that you have out there.

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Speaker 11: But I think it'd be time to move.

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Speaker 3: On from Trey Is.

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Speaker 18: As great as he's been here, it might just be

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Speaker 18: it's time to move on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's run its course at this point and you

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Speaker 3: move on from it. I agree. Thanks fellows, John, thank you,

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Speaker 3: appreciate you. I think that's a good way to put

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Speaker 3: at Austin.

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Speaker 19: It is.

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Speaker 3: It's been a good tenure, but it's just it's not

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Speaker 3: working in Cincinnati anymore.

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Speaker 4: And on top of that, they have failed to adequately

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Speaker 4: build around him. Other players haven't developed this quickly. Other

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Speaker 4: players hasn't produced the way you've wanted them to. Some

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Speaker 4: of the other signings haven't quite worked out. And because

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Speaker 4: of that, instead of dedicating more money to one player,

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Speaker 4: you need to dedicate that money to multiple players. It's

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Speaker 4: not just, hey, the Bengals don't like Trey and Trey

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Speaker 4: doesn't like the Bengals. It's not just he's injured or

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Speaker 4: he's older. It's hey, we got to spend this money

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Speaker 4: more wisely to make the defense as a whole better.

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Speaker 3: It's there's a lot of layers to it. Yeah, without

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Speaker 3: a doubt, maybe some layers that Joe Daniman can help

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Speaker 3: us peel back as we get to our number two.

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Speaker 3: He joins us next eight on ESPN, fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Pike since E three sixty about Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: from Cincinnati. This is esp the end of fifteen thirty,

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati's sports station.

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Speaker 3: What a time as we go into our number two

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Speaker 3: since he three p sixty March is here. Madness is

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Speaker 3: ensuing a lot of college basketball to keep up with

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Speaker 3: spring training in full action and the NFL offseason never

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Speaker 3: ceases to slow down. That's why we have guests like

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Speaker 3: the one we're about to welcome in that helps us

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Speaker 3: keep our eye on everything going on, because well that's

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Speaker 3: what he does on a daily basis. From Fox nineteen,

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Speaker 3: our good friend Joe Daniman, Joe, what's going on?

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Speaker 12: Hi, guys, thought of you guys yesterday. So I'm standing

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Speaker 12: outside of pay Course Stadium in the middle of the

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Speaker 12: afternoon doing TV stuff on Dalton Reisner resigning with the Bengals,

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Speaker 12: and there's some construction work going on outside of the stadium,

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Speaker 12: and a young man and a hard hat walked.

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Speaker 11: By as I'm in front of the camera and yelled, yeek.

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Speaker 12: I'm telling you the nation stands up.

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Speaker 11: Made my day. It always does.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. I love it. You mentioned being there

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Speaker 3: yesterday for the Dalton Reisner. Dude, we talked about it

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Speaker 3: on air. I don't think I've ever heard from a

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Speaker 3: more excited and grateful free agent signing than what you

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Speaker 3: got from Dalton Reisner yesterday. And I know everyone kind

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Speaker 3: of assumed it was a layup and the Bengals made

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Speaker 3: the layup, But what did you make of the news

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Speaker 3: yesterday and making sure Reisner's here and now a question

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Speaker 3: that we don't have to answer that we had to.

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Speaker 3: I think each of the last five or six years,

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Speaker 3: you don't really have to answer much about the offensive

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Speaker 3: line going forward.

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Speaker 12: I think that's the biggest takeaway from this is that

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Speaker 12: both Joe Burrow and Dak Taylor said at the end

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Speaker 12: of the year, this is the best the offensive line

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Speaker 12: has played in Joe Burrow's era in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 11: And I think if you get that, you hold onto

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Speaker 11: it for as long as you can.

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Speaker 12: And you think about the many conversations we've had about

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Speaker 12: the Bengals offensive line and getting it fixed and getting

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Speaker 12: it right. They've got it to a point where it's good.

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Speaker 12: It's kind of quietly good across the league. I'm not

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Speaker 12: sure how many people actually look at the numbers outside

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Speaker 12: of Cincinnati and see how good they were this last year.

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Speaker 12: And he's a big part of that. He's a guy

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Speaker 12: who wants to be here. He wrapped his arms around Cincinnati.

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00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 12: It seems like the fan base did it right back

867
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 12: to him. I thought the comment yesterday of him saying,

868
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 12: I'm gonna hug Joe Burrow. We'll see if he hugged

869
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 12: me back was a great line. I mean, he lit

870
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 12: up the room and he does that every time he talks,

871
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 12: and those kinds of people matter at a workplace and

872
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 12: inside of the locker room.

873
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 11: But the fact that Ted.

874
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 12: Karris and Amarius Mims talk about playing their best football

875
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 12: with him out there last year and want him to

876
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 12: be next to them this coming year, I think speaks volumes,

877
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 12: but the terminology is right.

878
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 11: It was a layup for both sides. They both wanted

879
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 11: to get it done. They got it done. And what

880
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 11: do they always say, right, it's march, it's madness. And

881
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 11: in basketball, if you.

882
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 12: Just see the ball go through the net once, that's

883
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 12: when you start cooking. The angles got to lay up

884
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 12: on the board. Now, we'll see if they can knock

885
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 12: down some jump shots.

886
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 3: I think, barring a surprise in the next few hours

887
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 3: with Trey Hendrickson and the Tag, a lot of us

888
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 3: assume Trey Hendrickson's time here in Cincinnati is now done.

889
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 3: If that's the case, which we assume it to be,

890
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 3: how do you sum up Trey Hendrickson as a Cincinnati Bengal.

891
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 12: That it's probably the best free agent signing that I

892
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 12: can remember for the Bengals, considering what he was in

893
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 12: New Orleans and what he became in Cincinnati is a

894
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 12: big part of what the Bengals did to get to

895
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 12: a super Bowl, and a defense that carried them through

896
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 12: the playoffs that year to get to the super Bowl.

897
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 12: The shame of it is is I still believe there's

898
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 12: a lot of really good football left in Trey Hendrickson,

899
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 12: and whoever he ends up playing with next year, I

900
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 12: think you're going to look at it and you're going

901
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 12: to say, man, which he was still here in Cincinnati,

902
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 12: because the Bengals could use that kind of production.

903
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 11: But it's over.

904
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 12: It's a divorce and both sides kind of feel like

905
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 12: they want to go their own separate ways, and I

906
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 12: think now it's run its course. The way last year

907
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 12: played out in the second half of the year was

908
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 12: kind of the final nail in the coffin for Trey

909
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 12: Henderson's time in Cincinnati. But I think it's important for

910
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 12: people to look back at the totality of what he

911
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 12: did in Cincinnati as far as his production and not

912
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 12: just be soured by the final year and the final

913
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 12: half season where he wasn't playing and ultimately it seems

914
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 12: like he forced his way out of Cincinnati. He's the

915
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 12: best free agency signing I can remember for this team

916
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 12: having and what he did as far as production and

917
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 12: helping this team get to places they hadn't been in.

918
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 11: A long time.

919
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 12: I hope that's what's remembered for him, not just the

920
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 12: way it ended with the Bengals.

921
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 3: You had a chance to cover the combine, and the

922
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 3: combine has now passed. But in doing so we heard

923
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 3: from Duke Tobin and Zach Taylor and Dan Pitcher and

924
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 3: Al Golden and Darren Simmons. Did you gather anything leaving

925
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 3: the combine and going forward of maybe how they're looking

926
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 3: to attack this offseason or looking to attack the draft

927
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 3: that has changed for you.

928
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 12: I think the word attack is the right word because

929
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 12: I think the tone I felt, and I felt this

930
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 12: ever since Duke Tobin got in front of a microphone

931
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 12: in January and the very rare postseason media availability with

932
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 12: Duke Tobin was they understand the urgency of this off season,

933
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 12: and while they might not be able to express it

934
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 12: to kind of tip their hand on what they're doing,

935
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 12: I'm fully believing and expecting them to be very aggressive

936
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 12: in free agency and try to fix this roster defensively

937
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 12: as soon as possible.

938
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 11: They know coaching.

939
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 12: Seats are warming, they know the quarterback's patients is thinning,

940
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 12: and they have to get this thing right this off

941
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 12: season and into the season, otherwise there's going to be

942
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 12: some really difficult decisions made by the higher ups, the

943
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 12: ownership group, the front office about what this team looks

944
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 12: like in twenty twenty seven.

945
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 11: They get that.

946
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 12: I think they fully understand that. I also think there's

947
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 12: an excitement for Al Golden for the way the year

948
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 12: finished with the defense playing more functional football in the idea,

949
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 12: he's going to get some new ingredients to play with

950
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 12: this year. I feel like for ten to twelve weeks

951
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 12: last year, Al Golden was coaching with basically kid gloves

952
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 12: on and really couldn't execute the kind of style of

953
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 12: defense he wanted to try to deploy here in Cincinnati.

954
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 12: So I think there's real excitement talking to him about

955
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 12: specific players and about what it might look like when

956
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 12: he gets more pros on his defense in twenty twenty six.

957
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 12: So I know it's one of those things I see

958
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 12: better than I hear. But what I've been hearing from

959
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 12: the Bengals so far ever since the season ended, was

960
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 12: an understanding of the urgency to get it right in

961
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 12: twenty twenty six or else there will be consequences across

962
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 12: the board with this team.

963
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 4: That was kind of what I was thinking too, because,

964
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 4: like I've said a couple of different times that I

965
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 4: think that they understand. I think that they will be active.

966
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 4: Some of the things that they've said would suggest that

967
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 4: as well. But I don't really trust them to understand

968
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 4: the urgency of the offseason, or their definition of urgency

969
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 4: might be different than than what everyone else is. So

970
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 4: I guess where does the the urgency come from?

971
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 3: Is it from Burrow?

972
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 4: Is it from the fact that you know, they haven't

973
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 4: won in three three years, not gone back to the playoffs,

974
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 4: and and why should Bengals fans feel like they actually

975
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 4: do understand the urgency.

976
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 12: I think it's very fair for you to say there

977
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 12: should be skepticism because they've had this window now for

978
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 12: ever since Joe Burrow walked in the door, or and

979
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 12: they really only push their chips to the middle in

980
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 12: that one off season of big time free agency spending.

981
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 12: So I think it's the three years Austin.

982
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 11: I think it's three.

983
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 12: Years of not going to the playoffs. Wait when you

984
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 12: step back and look at it and see what you

985
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 12: invested with Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase and t Higgins, and

986
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 12: the return on that investment is three years without the playoffs.

987
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 12: If you can't look in the mirror and say we

988
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 12: have to do something different this offseason besides just rafting

989
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 12: and developing and trying to retain our own guys and

990
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 12: think that's going to work again, then that's just that's insane.

991
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 12: That's the definition of infanity if you can't do something

992
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 12: different after seeing it three years in a row. So

993
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 12: I think that's the impetus behind it is the unacceptable

994
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 12: outcomes of the last three years. You know, you can

995
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 12: have a one off year, Your quarterback can get hurt,

996
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 12: things might not go your way. It might have a

997
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 12: bad break, your division.

998
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 11: Might be stacked. All those things can be a one

999
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 11: off year.

1000
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 12: I get that, But three years in a row and

1001
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 12: then the quarterbacks starting to show some patients cracking, I

1002
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 12: think those have to be the buttons you push when

1003
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 12: it's time to be urgent and address this thing as

1004
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 12: soon as possible. Now, coaches can be urgent, quarterback can

1005
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 12: be urgent, front office can be urgent. But the question

1006
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 12: is is will they be given the kind of monetary

1007
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 12: tools they have to use to do it? Okay, I

1008
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 12: mean right, you know, you can go to the grocery

1009
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 12: store and you can say I want this ingredient, I

1010
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 12: want to make that I want to do this, But

1011
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 12: then the person with money says, hey, listen, now, we

1012
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 12: can't be spending all this money, and then you're stuck

1013
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 12: with what you're stuck with. And so it has to

1014
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 12: be from every level within that organization and in that

1015
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 12: building to be on the same page and to have

1016
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 12: the same kind of urgency to get this done.

1017
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 15: Here.

1018
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty six, I found it strange that Duke

1019
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 3: Tobin said he hasn't had time to meet with Joe

1020
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 3: Burrow to have a full debrief. What did What did

1021
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 3: you think of that comment.

1022
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 12: I don't know how often Joe's been in town. This

1023
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 12: felt like the the the off season where Joe has

1024
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 12: just kind of wanted to be away and to get away,

1025
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 12: and that's understandable. He seemed frustrated.

1026
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 11: We all saw it.

1027
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 12: He seemed angry sometimes when those emotions kick in, and

1028
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 12: I don't want to psychoanalyze someone I don't know, but

1029
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 12: I'm just trying to connect some dots here. If you're

1030
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 12: having a bad couple of months at work and you

1031
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 12: have a lot of PTO to use, I would want

1032
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 12: to get away from work for as long as I

1033
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 12: could and just kind of clear my head and do

1034
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 12: whatever I had to do. Now, they might not be

1035
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 12: in front of each other sitting down having meetings, but

1036
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 12: I'm sure if there's communication that needs to be had,

1037
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 12: Joe Borrow is going to have that communication with Duke

1038
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 12: Cobin and the important people in that building. But I

1039
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 12: kind of think it's probably by Joe's choice that Joe

1040
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 12: just kind of wanted to get away.

1041
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 11: And you know, I don't believe all the pictures I

1042
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 11: see on social media.

1043
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 12: I don't believe anything anymore when it comes to pictures

1044
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 12: I don't know if it's ai, if it's real, but

1045
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 12: he's everywhere right everywhere but here he's been. He's been

1046
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 12: all over the globe showing up with the most random places,

1047
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 12: and I don't know if it's real or not, but

1048
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 12: it just kind of feels like Joe wanted to get away.

1049
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 12: And that's good, that's fine, that's what he has to do.

1050
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 12: Just just get away for a while and come back

1051
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 12: refreshed and let the people who are paid to make

1052
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 12: these kinds of decisions to fix this and get this

1053
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 12: roster right. Although fair to be skeptical, let them cook.

1054
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 3: On the red side of things. You had a chance

1055
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 3: to visit the Reds at spring training, and we've seen

1056
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 3: what this team has done the early part of spring training.

1057
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 3: Is there any question as to Matt McClain's success being

1058
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 3: tied to his pant length at this point?

1059
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 12: You know what, guys, I'm waiting for somebody to talk

1060
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 12: me off the ninety win LTG.

1061
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 11: Okay, yeah, that's where I am right now.

1062
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 12: You know, I mean, it's an eighty three win team

1063
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 12: and you go back last year and you brought up

1064
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 12: Matt McClain. If I were to challenge you to go

1065
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,439
Speaker 12: through the entire roster. You would go through the roster

1066
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 12: and said, well, Matt McClain left a lot on the bone.

1067
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 12: Spencer Steer didn't perform like we thought he would. La

1068
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 12: Da La Cruz has another level.

1069
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 9: He could hit.

1070
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 12: You go into the pitching staff, guys who were hurt,

1071
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 12: Nick Wodolo the blister. There are so many players this

1072
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 12: team counts on as their core who I would say

1073
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 12: underperformed or we expected more of last year, and they'd

1074
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 12: scraped together in an eighty three win season and made

1075
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 12: the playoffs. Now if even half of those guys or

1076
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 12: all of those guys takes a leap forward and they

1077
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 12: have a growth year, and then you add Aohanneo Suarez

1078
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 12: and now you have left handed specialists in the bullpen.

1079
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 12: Why can't this be a ninety win team. Why can't

1080
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 12: that be a baseline for this team going forward. It's

1081
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 12: funny because you know, Austin and I were texting yesterday

1082
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 12: about Matt McClain and his two arm run day, and

1083
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 12: I said, yeah, you know what, you know, Matt McClain

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Speaker 12: had a nice spring last year.

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Speaker 11: And I went back and looked at it.

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Speaker 12: He really did. He struck out seventeen times in fifty

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Speaker 12: five at bats, he hit about two point fifty at spring.

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Speaker 11: What's his pine? I guess whatever. But then he looked

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Speaker 11: this year.

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Speaker 12: Fourteen at backs, one strikeout and he got pop. And

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Speaker 12: he's been able to try to cover the outside part

1092
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 12: of the plate that gave him so much trouble at

1093
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 12: the end of last year and hit one out to

1094
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Speaker 12: write center yesterday. And if that's the harbinger of what

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00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 12: his season's going to be better played coverage, long pants

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Speaker 12: and having success. I just look at this team and say,

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00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 12: there were so many guys last year that just didn't

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00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 12: have great years, and we expect more from And if

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Speaker 12: those guys take that step, you're looking at a team I.

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Speaker 11: Think should be above ninety wins. It should be the expectation.

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Speaker 12: And I want people to talk me off that expectation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my rebuttal, my attempt to talk you off of

1103
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:10,439
Speaker 4: that ledge would be the words you used about five

1104
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Speaker 4: times during that spiel was if if if, if, if, if?

1105
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 4: Why should I believe that those guys are going to rebound?

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00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 4: Why should I believe that everybody's going to get through

1107
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Speaker 4: the season entirely healthy? Like I don't have a lot

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Speaker 4: of right, That's what I'm saying, Like those things are

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Speaker 4: going to happen, and I just don't you know, the

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Speaker 4: Matt McClain that we've seen, Yes, it was a pretty

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00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 4: small sample size in twenty twenty three. We haven't seen

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Speaker 4: much of it since then. Suarez, Yeah, okay, I'm all

1113
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 4: all on board with that, but he's going to strike

1114
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Speaker 4: out a lot. And who's to say that he can

1115
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 4: keep hitting forty five plus homers a year. It doesn't

1116
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,439
Speaker 4: happen all the time for a lot of people. Hunter

1117
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 4: Green continues to have injury issues. I just I understand

1118
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Speaker 4: where people are coming from because I do think the

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Speaker 4: the ceiling is really high, and I said it yesterday.

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Speaker 4: I think they could win the National League Central. I

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Speaker 4: just don't know that I trust them to put it

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Speaker 4: all together at the same time, because I haven't seen

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Speaker 4: them do that other than for twelve games in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty three and have that team's gone.

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Speaker 12: Because the IF comes with pedigree, and the pedigree of

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Speaker 12: a Matt McLain is a first round draft pick who,

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01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 12: when we saw him healthy in twenty twenty three, looked

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Speaker 12: like a rising star. The IF with Hunter Green comes

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Speaker 12: with being the number two overall pick with an arsenal

1130
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 12: of elite stuff that we've seen be an All Star.

1131
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 12: The IF comes with pedigree with Spencer steer of a

1132
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 12: guy that's hit more than twenty home runs in three

1133
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Speaker 12: straight years. The pedigree matters to me that when these

1134
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Speaker 12: guys are evaluated at a young age and smart baseball

1135
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 12: people project them to be a certain level of player,

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01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 12: those guys typically aren't that far off of what guys

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Speaker 12: become out. Careers can be changed by injury, and that's

1138
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 12: where we are with Matt McClain is wondering what his

1139
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 12: career arc is. Is he twenty twenty three Matt McClain

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01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 12: or is he twenty twenty five Matt McLain the only

1141
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 12: two seasons we've seen him in Cincinnati, So excuse your fire, right,

1142
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Speaker 12: is it the Matt McClain that's going to be a

1143
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 12: star in twenty twenty three or is it twenty twenty

1144
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 12: five Matt McLay. You're wondering is he ever going to

1145
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 12: be the same. And it's hard for me to stand

1146
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 12: on this call here and say it's going to be

1147
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 12: one way or the other. But my IF is going

1148
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 12: to lean on the pedigree with with Matt McClain and

1149
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 12: with Hunter Green, and certainly when you talk about any team,

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01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 12: the idea of health is at the crux of all

1151
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 12: of it. I mean, what are the Dodgers going to

1152
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 12: do with shilhilo, Otani and Yamamoto get injured. I know

1153
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 12: their depth is insane and they'll be fine and will

1154
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 12: make the playoffs, but without.

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Speaker 11: Those guys, they're probably not winning a World Series.

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01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 12: I do like the depths of the Reds rotation, and

1157
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 12: that's baked into this as well, the fact that they

1158
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 12: have probably sick for seven starters. If you want to

1159
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 12: throw Brandon Williamson in there, that can help this team

1160
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 12: over one hundred and sixty two game schedules, they're.

1161
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 11: Going to need all of them. Everybody wants to.

1162
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 12: Debate it's Chase Burns, Areett Loud or the fifth starter.

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Speaker 12: They're going to need all seven of those guys throughout

1164
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Speaker 12: this season to get to where they want to go.

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Speaker 12: I like that now you're seeing some of these utility guys,

1166
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 12: these role guys has moments in spring.

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01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 11: Nathaniel Lowe's had some moments.

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Speaker 12: JJ Blade's had some moments, Dane Myers has had some moments,

1169
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Speaker 12: and I understand it's spring training, but it feels like

1170
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 12: the roster is deeper, especially on the starting rotation. It

1171
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 12: feels like it's deeper and more proven in the bullpen.

1172
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Speaker 12: And if they can get the front line guys in

1173
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 12: their every day eight to take a step forward, I

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01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 12: get it if. But I think that if comes with

1175
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 12: a lot of pedigree for a lot of these guys

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01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 12: that we expect that if step this year to.

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Speaker 3: Get to that ninety win plateau, you would need others

1178
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 3: to chip in and help. And I feel like everyone

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Speaker 3: we've talked to that's been at spring training has talked

1180
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Speaker 3: about south Stewart, and they've talked about Chase Burns a lot.

1181
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 3: South Stewart has had a great start so far to

1182
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 3: spring hitting over four to twenty. He's got two home runs,

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Speaker 3: and then you look at what Chase Burns has done

1184
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 3: fifty four percent with rate, including a seventy five percent

1185
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,919
Speaker 3: with rate on the slider that he's been throwing. Which

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01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 3: of those two players' success would contribute to more wins

1187
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 3: over the season. If you had to talk about what

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Speaker 3: you're getting out of Chase Burns or what South Stewart

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Speaker 3: could be for this lineup, if you had to pick

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Speaker 3: one which one could be more impactful.

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Speaker 12: Such an awesome question to try to pick which one

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Speaker 12: would affect winning more for the rest. My stock line

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Speaker 12: on Chase Burns is this, While the debate at spring

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01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 12: has been he's in competition for the fifth spot, I

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01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 12: think by the end of the year he'll be closer

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01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 12: to the competition of being in the Reds playoff rotation

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01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 12: one of those spots than he is to the back

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Speaker 12: of the rotation. That's where I think he is. And

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Speaker 12: I understand Hunter Green, Andrew Abbott and Nicolodolo exists. I

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01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 12: think he can leap frog Nick Lidolo this year if

1201
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 12: everything goes right for Chase Burns and we'll see about innings, etc.

1202
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Speaker 8: Etc.

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Speaker 12: But I think his upside is higher even this year

1204
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 12: towards the top of the rotation than it is for

1205
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 12: the back of the rotation. But the fact that the

1206
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 12: Reds have that depth at starting pitching and we saw

1207
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 12: last year a team that was shut out what thirteen

1208
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 12: times and really struggle to score runs any pop consistently

1209
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,959
Speaker 12: you can put into this lineup, I think is going

1210
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 12: to be more of an indicator of this team's success

1211
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,959
Speaker 12: than It's hard to say, because baseball is all about

1212
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 12: pitching another elite arm. So if you put my feet

1213
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 12: to the fire and say take one that's going to

1214
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 12: affect winning, I'll take the guy that plays every single

1215
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 12: day and there isn't as much depth at that part

1216
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:52,479
Speaker 12: of the game.

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Speaker 11: I'll take South Stewart.

1218
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 12: But I think Chase Burns feeling is higher, maybe.

1219
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Speaker 11: Than anyone on the team not named Eligam.

1220
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Speaker 3: I have two quick basketball questions before we let you go.

1221
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Speaker 7: One.

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Speaker 3: I saw Jeremy Ralph post a photo today of finishing

1223
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 3: up coaching this year. How would you describe, if you've

1224
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 3: understood it all, Jeremy Rause's coaching style.

1225
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 12: I would say this about Jeremy Ralph's coaching style. He

1226
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 12: gets very frustrated as youth basketball players, which cracked me up,

1227
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 12: and it's a reminder to me why I've never done it.

1228
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 12: I just don't feel like I could commit myself with

1229
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 12: this schedule to find a way. And good on him,

1230
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 12: he found a way to get it done. But I've

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01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 12: seen now my kids are moving out of youth sports

1232
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 12: and their high school sports. Now is the parents playing

1233
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 12: time debate, And I'm so glad I've gotten out of

1234
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 12: that where every kid has to play the same amount

1235
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 12: of time world, and I don't envy any coach who

1236
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 12: has to live in that world.

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Speaker 11: So good on Jeremy. He smoked the cigar in a

1238
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 11: hot sub in Arizona, and I think it was because

1239
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 11: the season was coming to an end.

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Speaker 3: Secondly, we've entered the stage of I guess far sighted

1241
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 3: bubble watch for the Cincinnati Bearcats. And listen, I know

1242
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 3: the start of the year, in the early on, there

1243
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 3: were some bumps along the way, and this team had

1244
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 3: every opportunity to roll over Joe. After the West Virginia loss,

1245
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 3: they've done just the opposite. They've got an opportunity for

1246
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 3: two quad one wins to close out the regular season.

1247
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 3: Tell me about the opportunity that presents itself at Fifth

1248
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 3: Third Arena tonight.

1249
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 11: B Yu is vulnerable.

1250
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 12: They've been vulnerable since Richie Saunders left the lineup. They've

1251
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 12: lost two straight games. Their defense can't stop anybody. This

1252
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 12: is right there for you see now, what's the number? Okay,

1253
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 12: you see the sixteen right now? Sixteen wins is twenty one.

1254
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 12: The number is twenty The number because that would be

1255
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,439
Speaker 12: two wins to end the regular season, and that would

1256
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 12: be two wins in the Big twelve tournament, and it

1257
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 12: would be a.

1258
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 3: Ten and eight regular season in the Big twelve.

1259
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Speaker 11: And I pushed the brakes.

1260
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 12: Right because every year on Selection Sunday, I want to

1261
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 12: write in my note app that the tournament committee does

1262
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 12: not care about the conference tournament as much as we do.

1263
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 12: It just feels that way every single year. But twenty

1264
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 12: wins and you played in the Big twelve and you've

1265
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 12: looked like a tournament team with Gisel James, what's that saying?

1266
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 12: You put yourself in position to be in position, get

1267
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 12: it done tonight, get it done this weekend, and now

1268
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 12: you've got a beating heart going to Big twelve tournament.

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Speaker 3: Is there any sort of IF pedigree for Westviller?

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Speaker 11: Well done? Yes, well done.

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Speaker 3: If you're at twenty wins and then you look and

1272
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 3: you're like man ten and eight in a very good

1273
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 3: Big twelve, I think it gives you life. I think

1274
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,919
Speaker 3: it gives you an opportunity. And to that I say yeap,

1275
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,919
Speaker 3: And I say thank you Joe Daniman for joining us. Yep,

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01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 3: you boy, thanks so. Danniman Fox nineteen's finest follow along

1277
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 3: with Joe, whether it's high school hoops, the Reds, the Bengals, FC,

1278
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 3: Cincinnati College Basketball. They've got it all working for him

1279
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 3: at Fox nineteen right now, and we certainly appreciate his

1280
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 3: time each and every week as we appreciate yours. Which

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Speaker 3: happens next in Talkbacks on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Alexa coos like ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: It's that time for talkbacks.

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Speaker 21: Press the microphone and record your message for Austin and tone,

1285
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:45,560
Speaker 21: please keep it clean and don't be mean, and a

1286
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 21: sprinkle sprinkle.

1287
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 22: Drip drifts.

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01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 21: It's that time for talkbacks. It's our favorite parter since

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01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 21: three sixty. So Austin, buddy, play those talkbacks on your

1290
01:08:58,439 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 21: screen and please drive out.

1291
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Speaker 3: To so here we go the Tuesday edition of talkbacks

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Speaker 3: Right here ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 19: I don't know why my old lady keeps going over

1295
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 19: to the neighbors. I mean, it's kind of fishy. She's

1296
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Speaker 19: there constantly. What do you guys think is going on?

1297
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 11: Steroids?

1298
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 23: Really steroids?

1299
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:30,560
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe steroids?

1300
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 24: All right, Can you guys just try to put yourself

1301
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 24: in the minds of the Browns and Blackburns for a second,

1302
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:41,799
Speaker 24: why are they probably opposed to restructuring Joe Burrow's contract?

1303
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 24: If you see Joe Burrow as the reason you're selling tickets,

1304
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 24: you're a franchise player and you never want to see

1305
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 24: him leave. To the point that we've scoffed at any

1306
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 24: trade talk, why wouldn't you restructures contract so you can

1307
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 24: win now while you have Key and Javar on their

1308
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 24: contracts and you can just pay him a little bit

1309
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 24: more future ears.

1310
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 3: Why. Hmm, it's a good question.

1311
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 4: I don't know that it's a major issue this season, Okay,

1312
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 4: trying to think like they have cap space that they

1313
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 4: feel like they can take care of all their issues

1314
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 4: without restructuring.

1315
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 3: The deals, right.

1316
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 4: I don't know what it would hurt though, No, I

1317
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 4: don't know that it would hurt, and they have cap

1318
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 4: space in years to come that would make sense to

1319
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 4: do it, right.

1320
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 3: I don't know the reason.

1321
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 24: Also, I don't know if I can say their name

1322
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 24: because it's not sponsored, but it's the restaurant that makes

1323
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 24: Mexican food that rhymes with no Play Austin Tony. Do

1324
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 24: you guys like no Play and if so, what do

1325
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 24: you order from there? I'm questioning. I know Tony's not

1326
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 24: ordering beans, but I'm just curious if you frequent there

1327
01:10:57,960 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 24: and what you order.

1328
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 25: That's all I have.

1329
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 3: I used to ask these kind of questions all the time.

1330
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 3: I'll shut up. Now, what's it? What's he referring to?

1331
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 3: Referring to Chipotle? And if so, here's what I get,

1332
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 3: white rice, double chicken, cheese.

1333
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's it. No way, that's it. You're

1334
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 4: like my old boss Todd. Shout out to Todd if

1335
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:23,600
Speaker 4: he's out there. We used to have to go on

1336
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 4: these lunch runs and Todd would make me get, uh,

1337
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 4: the the white rice that's not cilantro lime, and apparently

1338
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 4: this is a thing at Chipotle, like they have plain

1339
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:38,759
Speaker 4: white rice. And you're you're probably writing this down because

1340
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 4: you probably don't like the clani lime rice and you

1341
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 4: should drive me nuts. Here's my order, uh usually bowl

1342
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 4: light white rice, double chicken faheitas hot sauce, corn light

1343
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 4: sour cream, cheese, lettuce.

1344
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 3: Disgusting, Hey, Marker from the grove.

1345
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 17: I know Jeff and New Richmond will be very jealous

1346
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 17: of us Kentucky fans. With Mitch Barnhart finally leaving, just

1347
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 17: with the Caliperry lifetime contract disaster, but got bailed out

1348
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 17: because he left on his own terms and we didn't

1349
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 17: have to buy him out. Just falls with the Mark

1350
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 17: Stoops thing and owing him all that money because of

1351
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 17: a bad contract that he gave him. It was just

1352
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 17: a disaster the last handful of years, and I'm so

1353
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 17: glad he's gone.

1354
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 3: What I gathered from it was some good, some bad

1355
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:33,839
Speaker 3: with Mitch Barnhart.

1356
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 23: Mitch Barnhart did some good things. He hired Mark Stoops.

1357
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:45,560
Speaker 23: That was good for a while until it wasn't. John Caliperry.

1358
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 23: That was good for a while until it wasn't. He

1359
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 23: did some bad things. He hired Billy Gillespie. Don't even

1360
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 23: just started on that. I think over all the good

1361
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 23: outweighs the bad. I think he deserves some, maybe not praise,

1362
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 23: at least some thanks. So I'm okay with him. So

1363
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 23: houde go ridge.

1364
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 3: The Billy Gillespie days at Kentucky.

1365
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 26: Along with Magic City, there's a very famous shoe store

1366
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 26: in Atlanta where all the NBA guys went, where they

1367
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 26: made custom made, huge size shoes for people like Patrick

1368
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:20,600
Speaker 26: Ewing and stuff like that.

1369
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 23: There's a lot of culture.

1370
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 3: In that city.

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01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1372
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:27,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. By the way, Tarleton State is parting ways with

1373
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 3: Billy Gillespie this year. See how that went for Billy.

1374
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 4: Hey, fellas Adam here, I'm a friendly reminder of just

1375
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 4: follow the money.

1376
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 3: You talk about the Magic City thing, Follow the money.

1377
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 12: Did we think ten.

1378
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 27: Years ago that DraftKings would be everywhere and in your

1379
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 27: face and every sporting event and TV commercial?

1380
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 3: Follow the money?

1381
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:47,640
Speaker 11: Hendrickson?

1382
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 25: Why not tag in trade?

1383
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 11: Follow the money?

1384
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 12: What if no team wants to pay the franchise tag price,

1385
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 12: then you're.

1386
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 11: Stuck with a mal content and, in my opinion, a

1387
01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 11: locker room cancer.

1388
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 3: How his just builds up and builds up and builds up.

1389
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:07,679
Speaker 28: Hey, guys, look, I don't know a whole lot about

1390
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 28: all this, and I apologize if you've already talked about it,

1391
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 28: But what about like a tag in trade for Hendrickson

1392
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 28: and Max Crosby.

1393
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:16,719
Speaker 3: Does that Does that make any sense?

1394
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 28: Because it feels like they don't want to lose Max,

1395
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 28: but he might be on his way out the door,

1396
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 28: and we obviously don't want to lose the productivity that

1397
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 28: Trey has. I'm just kind of curious if that would

1398
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 28: make any sense for both sides of the of that deal.

1399
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 3: I don't think so. Yeah, it does not make sense

1400
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 3: for either.

1401
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 13: Side headed down to fifth third tonight. Come on, I'm

1402
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 13: hoping to see one final home win for Day Day Baba,

1403
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 13: Jalen and Wes.

1404
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 3: Bring wait to.

1405
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 8: Slide in there.

1406
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 3: Well done, well guys, Jacob and Texas.

1407
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 15: If the Bengals do not tag Trey, do you think

1408
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 15: that they will offer him a one year deal that

1409
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 15: they think it's fair to see if they can have

1410
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 15: him again?

1411
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 7: No?

1412
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 4: No, no, I think I have a better chance of

1413
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 4: starting on the edge for the Bengals this year than

1414
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson.

1415
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 3: It's you already know. I was checking that interview out

1416
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 3: with Coach Sat.

1417
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 29: That's what I'm talking about, Tony wrapping the city out

1418
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 29: here and Sonny Man, it's getting hot Zona.

1419
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 3: What up, Tony?

1420
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 9: What up?

1421
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 29: Buddy Man? That was a fire interview. I mean, Coach

1422
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,600
Speaker 29: Sat brought my temperature Downsta Tad bitch, you dig what

1423
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 29: I'm saying. He said the right things about Cincinnati, Jeff Ruby,

1424
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 29: sports and all that.

1425
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: But can you win in.

1426
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,640
Speaker 29: November and December for its Coach Sat? Because if not,

1427
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 29: I want to flame it back up. But right now,

1428
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 29: you got me, right now anyway, Bearcats, man gotta get

1429
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 29: this win, trying to make that tournament run, trying to

1430
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 29: catch strut.

1431
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 4: Okay, how about coach sat Okay, a little off season

1432
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 4: leve Let's check back in November.

1433
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 3: See what Ronnie ron has. Okay, Hillo, this is.

1434
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 14: Former president Ronald rigging and Whale is the late great

1435
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 14: Neil Sedaka saying breaking up is hard to do, and Wale,

1436
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 14: that's what this thing between the Bengals and Trey Hendrickson

1437
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 14: feels like, Saidaka also saying love will keep us together.

1438
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 14: But there was just too much bad blood. Wow for

1439
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 14: both sides to be laughing in the ring.

1440
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 3: That's unbelievable.

1441
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 29: One back for a double up, because you know why

1442
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:17,799
Speaker 29: y'all speaking straight facts about the Bengals front office.

1443
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 3: Man, they better not bungle it up. Just don't.

1444
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 29: Because I can't go through another Carson Palmer type deal.

1445
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,679
Speaker 29: And I understood what Corta Palmer did, and I don't

1446
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 29: want Joe Burrow doing that. You know what I'm saying,

1447
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,639
Speaker 29: I'm out here battling for my quarterback. Out here, I'm

1448
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 29: getting shade ung at me. Everybody wants my quarterback. Joe

1449
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 29: Burrows that quarterback dude, he's even Cincinnati. I'm over here

1450
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 29: going to battle for me front office.

1451
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 3: Don't make me look bad. Improve this team.

1452
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 4: Come on, come on, yeah, yeah, I just I've said

1453
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 4: it many times. I don't say the like I can

1454
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 4: stress it enough. If Bengals fans, much like Ronnie ron

1455
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 4: is describing there, have to go through another Carson Palmer

1456
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 4: type of situation, it will do irreparable harm to the

1457
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:11,799
Speaker 4: future of that fan, that Franchi. There will be scores

1458
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 4: and scores and scores and scores of fans yep, that

1459
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 4: will leave. Generations, will not come back, generations of Bengal fans.

1460
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:25,560
Speaker 22: Tony Austin, big fans of the show, appreciate what you

1461
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 22: guys do every day.

1462
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 3: Really enjoy listening. Well, thank you. To have a question though,

1463
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 3: Why are some of the commercials in slow motion?

1464
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 10: It sounds like Freddy Krueger from nineteen eighty six talking

1465
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 10: it's a little creepy.

1466
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 4: Okay, well, we are not experiencing that. I'm sorry that

1467
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 4: you are. We don't get to control that. I would

1468
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 4: ask you to close your iHeartRadio app, assuming you're listening

1469
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 4: on the iHeartRadio app, close your app and reopen it.

1470
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:55,759
Speaker 4: And if it continues. Please let us know because clearly

1471
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 4: we don't want that.

1472
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,799
Speaker 3: Hey call me crazy, and you know I am crazy.

1473
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 3: Yes you will.

1474
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 27: I apologize for my deep wheezy voice.

1475
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 3: I got a deep chest cold going on.

1476
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 8: Anyway.

1477
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:11,680
Speaker 27: I'm looking at Matthew Stafford. I think as soon as

1478
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 27: he retires, I think Burrow will go play for Sean McVay,

1479
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 27: to go for that ring. Mark it down, you know,

1480
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 27: I think Burrow will be I've had enough of this crap.

1481
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 27: I'm going to go play for Sean McVay in the

1482
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 27: LA Rams.

1483
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, he does have a contract here in

1484
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 3: Cincinnati for the next three or four years, so that's right.

1485
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,560
Speaker 30: A couple things about employee ninety one. I think his

1486
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 30: number one problem is Harold Lewis's agent. This guy's basically

1487
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 30: a Jerry Maguire. He represents one other guy making over

1488
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 30: ten million bucks, and that's marcz Valdez. Scanley probably ain't

1489
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 30: in the league next season. If I'm Douke Tobin, I'm

1490
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 30: sitting down, I'm saying, Trey, we've shopped you around. You're

1491
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 30: not worth what you're asking for. I'll give you a

1492
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 30: one year extension with seventeen million bucks.

1493
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 3: That's it. Take it or leave it. You can go

1494
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 3: out there.

1495
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 30: Harold can can pull a rabbit out of his hat

1496
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 30: and get something for you, but it's likely not going

1497
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 30: to happen.

1498
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 3: Stay in Cincinnati.

1499
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 4: Or I did see that Craze agent and Shamar Stewart's agent.

1500
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 4: We're headlining a clown convention in Newport. I don't know

1501
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:13,600
Speaker 4: if you saw that or not.

1502
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 9: Okay, it's the Lord.

1503
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 31: Happy rainy Tuesday. Everybody, you gotta start bench cut. If

1504
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 31: you're moving out of your house, Tony and Austin and

1505
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 31: you had these three people to choose from him to

1506
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 31: help you move, start bench cut. The President Ronald Reagan

1507
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 31: loud talkback guy Eddie Zelik.

1508
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 3: I'd go, I'd start raging because he could rally the

1509
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 3: masses and get help. Yeah, I'd bench loud talk that

1510
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 3: guy because I know he's he's willing and able and

1511
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 3: he'll show up and then just by process of the

1512
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 3: nation Addi's Elik.

1513
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 8: Yeah.

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01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 4: I've never met Eddie, so he would have to be cut.

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01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 4: And in that same vein, I think I know the

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01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 4: President the best, and uh yeah, I would start Yeah,

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01:19:57,800 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 4: I agree with you.

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01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 3: By the way that the clown convention mentioned. Isn't that

1519
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 3: where the Horizon League just did their voting. Yeah, all

1520
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 3: the coaches right now. Doug Gottlieb also a part of that. Yep, Jerkson,

1521
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 3: you got so close.

1522
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 32: To getting away with it, but you're pro far away.

1523
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 32: The journal, the ACL meniscual tears for the Ohio State safety. Well,

1524
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 32: Caleb slide downs to the Bengals and it's deadline day?

1525
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 32: Any chance we still see a.

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01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 3: Tag and tray.

1527
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 1: Question?

1528
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 3: See what you're doing?

1529
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: Serious?

1530
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,600
Speaker 32: Does Tony Pike get a discount on Senior Night at

1531
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 32: U see.

1532
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 3: Pang, You don't get a discount. Oh, I get it.

1533
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 3: You are getting old though.

1534
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 4: By the way, Pat McAfee his show very rarely are

1535
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 4: they the gold standard of journalism?

1536
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 3: I mean almost never.

1537
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 4: But to his credit, his show and his team reached

1538
01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 4: out to multiple NFL teams about Caleb Downs this morning.

1539
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 4: He said, they told us there is nothing in the

1540
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 4: medical that would deter them from taking Caleb Downs.

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01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 16: Okay, hey guys, Happy Tuesday. Yeah, you guys are always

1542
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 16: talking negative. It seemed like Joe Maman was wanting to

1543
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:19,679
Speaker 16: talk to everybody up to see the Reds are gonna

1544
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 16: do well and you guys always take the opposite side

1545
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 16: of well, you're always on that negative side. You guys

1546
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,600
Speaker 16: gotta look on the positive side sometimes.

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01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 3: Man, I'm just I don't know if I can entertain that.

1548
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 3: I don't think you are like that. I think you're

1549
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 3: my positive, disgustingly positive.

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01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 4: Too many times I will raise my hand and say,

1551
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 4: when it comes to the Reds, I'm the most negative

1552
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,600
Speaker 4: person on the planet. And the reason for that is

1553
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 4: that the Reds have sucked my entire life. My entire life,

1554
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 4: they have been terrible, and so I don't buy into pedigrees.

1555
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 4: I don't buy into if I don't buy into the

1556
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 4: back of the baseball card, I buy into what have

1557
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 4: you done for me lately? And yeah, I think there's

1558
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:06,639
Speaker 4: plenty of reason to look at this team and say, yeah,

1559
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 4: they have the talent, but there's a difference between talent

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01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 4: and execution. And for thirty years, the Reds have pulled

1561
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 4: the rug out from underneath me, and they have not

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01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:22,560
Speaker 4: advanced in the postseason. They have been a doormat for

1563
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 4: most of that. So I don't choose to be positive

1564
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 4: when I don't have anything to be positive about.

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01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 33: Fair let's go you see, yeah, byu, they're a little

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01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 33: ever rated. They got one great player you see, should

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01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 33: be smart enough double team.

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01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 34: Hem.

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01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:48,720
Speaker 33: I think Miami's adier have tough games tonight. Hopefully the

1570
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 33: Bengals can get something out of Trey Hendrickson. Congratulations on

1571
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,679
Speaker 33: being Sam Patrick's day Mark.

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01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, Tony.

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01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 1: I'll take it back.

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01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 11: You are positive when it comes to you.

1575
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:07,520
Speaker 3: See, I do appreciate that, and that's not positivity all illusion.

1576
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 3: Do you not remember every weekend series where I'm talking

1577
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 3: at the red sweep They're right back in the race.

1578
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 3: If there, this is Colonel Sanders here, Yeah, all day.

1579
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 3: I just want to thank you for the suggestion of me.

1580
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 3: Hold on, I'm gonna go yep, I'm not gonna Hey, guys, TJ.

1581
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 35: Does Bruce Pearl have one of those Insta face pages

1582
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 35: and he's looking for clickbait?

1583
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 3: What an idiot?

1584
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 35: What a more ronic statement about Miami. Who wouldn't want

1585
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 35: that team in there? We all love Cinderella. This Bangle

1586
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 35: story goes one of two ways. The Bengals win a

1587
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 35: Super Bowl under the Joe Burr administration, thirty five years

1588
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 35: of Mike Brown's utility is forgiven, or Mike brown cements

1589
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 35: is mostly already set in stone. Legacy as being one

1590
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 35: of the worst professional sport franchise owners ever. Which one

1591
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:51,640
Speaker 35: would you lay your sprinkle sprinkled drip on?

1592
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 3: And when it comes to the Bengals, I am overwhelmed

1593
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 3: with positivity. Yep, exactly. You and I are like ships

1594
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:01,680
Speaker 3: passing in the night. The autumns of these two we are.

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01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 22: I believe, Hey, Joe from case here, I do hate

1596
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 22: to see Trey leave and not get a thing for him.

1597
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 22: But hear me out on this. In fifteen years, when

1598
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:14,600
Speaker 22: we forget how it ended, Ring of honor, where's he

1599
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 22: at on the all time Bengals sack list and led

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01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 22: us to a super Bowl on defense in a couple

1601
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 22: AFC Championship games. I think, depending where he's at on

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01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 22: that list, just maybe I don't know.

1603
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 3: Food for thought, WHODEI underrated Chipotle order.

1604
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 36: If you're just looking for a quick meal for cheap,

1605
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 36: you get a kid's meal, you get a protein. I

1606
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 36: recommend steak. It's the same price as chicken. You get

1607
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 36: some rice, you get another size and bean, some corn.

1608
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 36: You can mix it up any way you want. You

1609
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 36: get a bag of chips, and you get a drink

1610
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 36: for like five fifty.

1611
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 11: You can't beat it.

1612
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 3: There you go.

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01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 11: Okay, menu hacks, Hey fellows, ip, you're having a good day.

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01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 28: I just want to also mention that, yeah, some of

1615
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 28: the ads on the app are kind of in slow motion.

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01:24:58,200 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 11: A little weird.

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01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll look at into it. We apologize. Hey guys,

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01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 3: it's a bad anyways.

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01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 37: I got a second that you guys are so so

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01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 37: so negative. I mean, I can't listen all the time

1621
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 37: because I can't have this type of negativity in my life,

1622
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 37: the stress it creates. We live in a wonderful community,

1623
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:30,080
Speaker 37: and our athletic programs collegiately and professionally are awesome. Why

1624
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 37: are you too so negative?

1625
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:33,600
Speaker 3: Yep, we talked about her.

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01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 4: We talked about this once before that there's a difference

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01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 4: in the way that our brain works. Tony looks at

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01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 4: everything and says, Okay, how could this go right? I

1629
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 4: look at everything and say, how could this go wrong?

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01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 4: And maybe the times we're both off.

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01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe that's why we work so well together with

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01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 3: a little bit of yin and yang. I don't know.

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01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 7: Wow, preach Austin. I'm on the exact same page, exact

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01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 7: same page. But yeah, it's been a long time since

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01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 7: ninety one or seventy five or whatever past I want

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01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 7: present results.

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01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 3: Way to go, Austin, lay it out there, brow.

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01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 13: Ski.

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01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 3: Thank you. By the way, there was a guy over

1640
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:20,680
Speaker 3: the weekend spring training game. His last name was bro

1641
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:26,440
Speaker 3: br ea Uxm's be little Louisiana.

1642
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 11: I like that.

1643
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 3: All right, We're done, Okay, one segment when we return, Yes, sir,

1644
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 3: one segment. We'll finish up our number two segment. That

1645
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 3: happens next on the ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1646
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:45,759
Speaker 2: You Pike since three sixty continues now on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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01:26:54,600 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 3: Welcome back since e three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 3: Sports Station. Let's do this. Austin, twenty three days away

1649
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:12,640
Speaker 3: from the Cincinnati Reds returning to Great American Ballpark for

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01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:15,519
Speaker 3: the day that is known as Opening Day. Here in

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01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 3: the city of Cincinnati, no one does it better than

1652
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 3: the Reds on Opening Day. And when you think now

1653
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 3: twenty three days away, is there a name or two

1654
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 3: that stands out to you? Because I immediately I told

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01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 3: you today I hadn't looked at the list yet. I

1656
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 3: think of Jason LaRue of course, yeah, the catcher for

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01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Reds.

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01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 4: How could you not think of old Jason LaRue, it's

1659
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 4: a great one. Who else did you think of?

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01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 13: Well?

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01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:42,760
Speaker 3: I thought of a guy like Nick Martini.

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01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 4: Oh shaken, not starts right, And I'm was going to

1663
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:52,560
Speaker 4: try to play his opening day home runs from a

1664
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 4: couple of years they're gone.

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01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:56,639
Speaker 3: There's a couple twenty threes that could have been what ifs?

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01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 3: What if Jeff Hoffman had been the Jeff hoffmin we

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01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 3: see now sure as a red be a much different

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01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 3: story one. What about Adam Davall who had went and

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01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 3: had a very good career with the Atlanta Braves.

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01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 4: Well, don't forget back in nineteen fifty two, Jim Greengrass,

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01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 4: Jimmy greenngrass, I mean there were some names here. What

1672
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 4: about what about that same year old Dick Sisler. Well

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01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 4: you've got Augie Gallon, Jim Bogery, Ron Northy, Jim Greengrass,

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01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 4: Dick Sisler, Wally Westlake. I mean, who's who of all time?

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01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 3: Read names?

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01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 4: And we always got to remember Lee May, the big bopper,

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01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 4: that's right. I always wanted Lee May to be number

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01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 4: twenty four because my birthday is May twenty fourth, and

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01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 4: I wanted to get a Lee May jersey because I

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01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:39,679
Speaker 4: thought that would have been cool.

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01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:43,640
Speaker 3: The great Doug Flynn, the glue Doug Flynn rock the

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01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 3: number twenty three.

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01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 4: Doug Flynn morisemaw, good guy. That was a how Morris

1684
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 4: fan growing up. Of course he's a fan favorite for sure.

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01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 3: What about obscure red here nineteen ninety nine, Greg Vaughan?

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01:28:56,439 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 4: Of course, one year with the club, just launched a

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01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 4: auncha homers, Greg v donal, what's the German fella?

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01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 3: Can you guess in that nineteen ninety nine year, how

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01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 3: many home runs Greg Vaughn hit? Did he hit like?

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01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 3: Thirty nine? Forty five? Forty five? One year after hitting

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01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 3: fifty for the padres Man Greg Vaughn. Didn't the Reds

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01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 3: change their facial hair policy for him? Probably wasn't that

1693
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 3: a thing? Did I make that up? I don't know.

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01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 3: Somebody probably knows.

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01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:24,680
Speaker 11: I don't know.

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01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 3: All right, we're out it. We gotta go. When we

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01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 3: come back, let's kick off our number three with some

1698
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 3: college basketball. We'll do that next. And your phone calls five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

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01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:36,679
Speaker 3: fifteen thirty on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:41,599
Speaker 2: This is Jim, Hello Jim, This is Tony Pike Cincy

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01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:47,959
Speaker 2: three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati. This is ESPN fifteen

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01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:50,599
Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 3: Welcome back at Cincy three sixty hour, number three. So

1704
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 3: let's talk college hoops and we will get to the massive,

1705
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:03,560
Speaker 3: massive college basketball slate that is happening this evening and

1706
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 3: for the rest of the week as the Horizon League

1707
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 3: Tournament is underway. The regular season for the Big East

1708
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 3: and the Big Twelve will wrap up this coming weekend.

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01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:15,680
Speaker 3: Some big games tonight, but a lot, a lot of

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01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:19,720
Speaker 3: noise ahead of the Xavier Providence game was coming out

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01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:25,679
Speaker 3: around Xavier's campus with some reports that maybe Richard Patino

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01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 3: could be on the move somewhere else.

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01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 4: Is Xavier fans still have a little PTSD. I think

1714
01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:32,599
Speaker 4: from all Shawnie Miller.

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01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 9: They do.

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01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 3: And that's why I wanted to kick off our number

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01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 3: three with this, because this he's ever been called before. Absolutely,

1718
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 3: this gem of a woman. We know her by Sue.

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01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 3: Thanks to Paul Fritchner, because I saw Paul Fritchner posted

1720
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:47,720
Speaker 3: this last night at the Richard Patino Radio show.

1721
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 4: You can also just get it on the iHeartRadio app.

1722
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 4: It's on our market. It's the Richard Patino Radio fantastic.

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01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 4: It's a great show podcast and Taran producers.

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01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 3: And Patino's awesome, and I love the way he's kind

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01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 3: of attacked and he gets out ahead of this. But

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01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 3: let's start with Sue who had this question, and then

1727
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:09,640
Speaker 3: you're going to hear Richard Patino's response right after it.

1728
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 38: So I think I speak for a lot of fans

1729
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 38: that we appreciate your style at the Coaches Show. Thank

1730
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 38: your funny, informative, your insights into the players are really entertaining,

1731
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:33,720
Speaker 38: and I appreciate how well you know your players.

1732
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:34,600
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1733
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:38,879
Speaker 38: So of course rumors are flying around.

1734
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 3: I'll take the compliments. That's a good shut up.

1735
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 38: You're bold, and I just wanted to tell you.

1736
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 39: We hope you don't thank you, thank you, thank you,

1737
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:02,600
Speaker 39: I said, Well, I was telling Byron this. You know,

1738
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:06,640
Speaker 39: you never ever know, with the world of Twitter, what

1739
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 39: bombs are gonna hit you at any moment, you know,

1740
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 39: And I remember the day of the Providence game. All

1741
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 39: of a sudden, your phone's buzzing and I'm like, what

1742
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 39: is going on here? So I tried to squash that quickly.

1743
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 39: Here here's what I could tell everybody here. I promise

1744
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 39: you I will never leave after a fourteen or fifteen

1745
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:29,720
Speaker 39: win season because that that that's not my intent at all.

1746
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 39: You know, I appreciate greatly what Savior has given me.

1747
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 39: Will I say I'm never gonna leave.

1748
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 3: I have no idea. I have no idea. They may

1749
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 3: tell me to leave in a couple of years. I haven't.

1750
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 3: That's happened to me as well.

1751
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 39: But what I can tell you, what I really, really,

1752
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:51,599
Speaker 39: really pride myself in, is building a championship program.

1753
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:54,920
Speaker 3: I left New Mexico. I loved New Mexico.

1754
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:57,479
Speaker 39: I didn't want to leave, but I held my hot

1755
01:32:57,600 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 39: head high in the sense that I cut down two

1756
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 39: nets in a row. So I went to the NCAA

1757
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:04,680
Speaker 39: tournament twice, and it felt like I gave everything to

1758
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 39: New Mexico. I have not given a lot to Xavier

1759
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 39: just yet. So if that tells you what my answer

1760
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:14,559
Speaker 39: is right there, Like we've got a lot of work

1761
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 39: to do and the job is not even close to finish.

1762
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 39: So I would tell you nobody needs to worry about

1763
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 39: any of the stuff they're reading on the internet. Those

1764
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 39: things are really really hard when people tweet those things out.

1765
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:31,800
Speaker 39: And I was telling Byron this, like, for one speculation

1766
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 39: when a coach still has a job. It's really really

1767
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 39: hard for me to ever address something like that, you

1768
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 39: know what I mean? Like that that's inappropriate to how

1769
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 39: hard this profession is. But with that being said, I

1770
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 39: hope to build a championship team here. I want to

1771
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:50,679
Speaker 39: win the Big East in the worst way. At Xavier,

1772
01:33:51,080 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 39: we're not even close to there yet, so all my

1773
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:57,599
Speaker 39: focus and my energy is into that. And I can

1774
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:00,320
Speaker 39: promise you as well. This girl wants to finish high

1775
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 39: school at Summit and she's got three more years, So

1776
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 39: there you go. Me a couple more years.

1777
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:09,640
Speaker 8: But we really do.

1778
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 17: I mean.

1779
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 39: The one thing I hope you guys learn about me,

1780
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 39: I don't really speak in coach speak. And when I

1781
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:20,599
Speaker 39: left New Mexico, I think it was received as well

1782
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:22,599
Speaker 39: as it could ever have because I was very honest

1783
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:26,280
Speaker 39: with people. I wanted to get back East. If a

1784
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 39: Big East job came available that I thought was a

1785
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 39: really good one, I'd be very very intrigued with it.

1786
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 39: So Xavier checks all the boxes. The next thing we

1787
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 39: got to do is win a lot more games, and

1788
01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 39: that's the plan moving forward.

1789
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I like the way this guy operates.

1790
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:43,840
Speaker 3: Man too, very easy to be like, yeah, I'm not

1791
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:46,439
Speaker 3: talking about any of that. That's crazy. And I think

1792
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 3: what he said there at the end holds true. He's

1793
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 3: not in the normal sense of coach speak.

1794
01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 4: And shout out to Sue speaking of journalism. Man, she's

1795
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:54,879
Speaker 4: not afraid.

1796
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:57,680
Speaker 3: No. I like what he said too. Of Look, I

1797
01:34:57,760 --> 01:34:59,439
Speaker 3: gave everything I had to New Mexico, and I was

1798
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 3: honest with the process. And I've talked about on this

1799
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 3: show before. The way Mark D'Antonio left when I was

1800
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 3: at the University of Cincinnati versus the way Brian Kelly

1801
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 3: left when I was at the University of Cincinnati was

1802
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:12,640
Speaker 3: exactly that. Mark D'Antonio was open, he was honest, He

1803
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 3: had the conversations up front about things, and I think

1804
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 3: people view him a lot differently than when Brian Kelly

1805
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 3: left the program. So I appreciate what Richard Patino did

1806
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:26,960
Speaker 3: and how he attacked that, and I also know that

1807
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 3: that it's true what Richard Patino said. They got to

1808
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:31,680
Speaker 3: win a lot more games at Xavier. They got a

1809
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:34,599
Speaker 3: long way to go, and that is the goal. That's

1810
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 3: where they want to be. They get another chance to

1811
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:42,639
Speaker 3: bite into that tonight at the Cintas Center. Against Seaton Hall.

1812
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:45,760
Speaker 3: For Xavier, it's a chance to get their seventh Big

1813
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 3: East win of the year, and they would get them

1814
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 3: back to five hundred on the season. They sit at

1815
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 3: fourteen and fifteen. You want to talk about implications and

1816
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:55,560
Speaker 3: where we are in the process here, at least some

1817
01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 3: of us bubble watch what's going on around the bubble.

1818
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 3: If you are a team like you see that has

1819
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:05,760
Speaker 3: a ton of work to do, you have to take

1820
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 3: care of business, and we'll get to that in a moment.

1821
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 3: You also need other teams to help you out as well. Tonight.

1822
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:13,600
Speaker 3: Xavier is one of those teams. If you are a

1823
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:17,840
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bearcat fan, you want the Xavier Musketeers to win

1824
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:21,040
Speaker 3: tonight because Seton Hall is a team according to most

1825
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 3: that is squarely on that Joe Lonardi bracketology bubble as well.

1826
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 3: So that is it's kind of the lens in which

1827
01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:34,840
Speaker 3: we're viewing this austin which teams can help, which teams

1828
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 3: can hurt going forward, and who do you got to

1829
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:40,639
Speaker 3: root for? So that's what Xavier has ahead of them tonight.

1830
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 3: Other action tonight, especially in the top twenty five TCU

1831
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:50,679
Speaker 3: is at Texas Tech Bubble Watch Asia. You want Texas

1832
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:52,679
Speaker 3: Tech to win that game if you're hoping the Bearcats

1833
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:55,639
Speaker 3: can make a run. Mentioned at the start of the show,

1834
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 3: a lot going on around Miami's basketball program right now

1835
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:02,240
Speaker 3: as they look to go to thirty and Ohero. They

1836
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:07,320
Speaker 3: take on the Toledo Rockets tonight at Malette Hall. Miami

1837
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 3: right now in this game listed as a seven and

1838
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 3: a half point favorite. They got to win at Toledo

1839
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 3: eighty seven to seventy three early in the year, so

1840
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 3: it's an opponent they know well. And you know the

1841
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 3: biggest thing for Miami right now, Austin, I think Miami's resume.

1842
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 3: If they win tonight and they beat Ohio on Friday,

1843
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 3: I think they're in because I don't think even with

1844
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 3: one loss they miss. The only way the door gets

1845
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 3: opened around Miami is if they slip up tonight or

1846
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:40,839
Speaker 3: Friday and then they lose again in the MAC Tournament.

1847
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 3: That's where I think this could get interesting. So two

1848
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:47,920
Speaker 3: more chances to take care of business. They jumped on

1849
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:51,000
Speaker 3: Toledo early in that first match of fifty six to

1850
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:53,800
Speaker 3: thirty six at a half. That would be kind of

1851
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 3: what needs to happen. What do you view Miami wise,

1852
01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:57,680
Speaker 3: do they need to win the next two if they

1853
01:37:57,760 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 3: fall short in the MAC Tournament.

1854
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:03,240
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I don't think you can keep a team

1855
01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 4: out that's undefeated in the regular season.

1856
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:09,599
Speaker 3: Yes, with one conference tournament loss. Yeah, I think it's

1857
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 3: interesting if they lose one of the next two and

1858
01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:12,759
Speaker 3: then don't win the MAC Tournament.

1859
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 4: I also don't think. I think if they're undefeated in

1860
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:19,200
Speaker 4: the regular season, they'll be good regardless. But I also

1861
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:22,360
Speaker 4: don't think they can lose in the first round of

1862
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:26,360
Speaker 4: the back sure, yeah, barring something early in that tournament.

1863
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:32,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. Nebraska Ucla tonight a team A lot of people

1864
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:35,240
Speaker 3: may view UCLA as a bubble team at this point.

1865
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 3: Arizona State. You don't want to see them creep back

1866
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:40,639
Speaker 3: into it. You want to see Kansas knock them off tonight,

1867
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 3: But a lot of local action tonight that will kind

1868
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:48,680
Speaker 3: of have bubble implications. Louisville, by the way, who has

1869
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:52,599
Speaker 3: fallen now out of the top twenty five. They're back

1870
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 3: in action tonight at the Young Center against a bad

1871
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:58,200
Speaker 3: Syracuse team. Again, I don't think Louisville's a team that

1872
01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 3: has to worry about their nca eight tournament hopes, but

1873
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:03,200
Speaker 3: it is a team that kind of needs to write

1874
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:05,840
Speaker 3: the ship of where they're at. And then a very

1875
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:09,760
Speaker 3: interesting one tonight on the road at Texas A and

1876
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 3: M for the Kentucky Wildcats. Right now Texas A and

1877
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:17,040
Speaker 3: M one of the last four buys, so still living

1878
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:19,599
Speaker 3: kind of close to that bubble. You'd like to see

1879
01:39:19,680 --> 01:39:24,040
Speaker 3: him take care of business, I mean, the Kentucky Wildcats

1880
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:26,320
Speaker 3: to take care of business. And then none of this

1881
01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:29,040
Speaker 3: matters if we're talking about the bubble if U see

1882
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 3: does not take care of BYU tonight. It's a nine

1883
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:38,800
Speaker 3: pm tip off, a nine pm tip off televise on

1884
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:40,720
Speaker 3: ESPN two, but more importantly, you can hear it on

1885
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:43,640
Speaker 3: seven hundred WLW with Dan Hord and Terry Nelson.

1886
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:43,720
Speaker 9: On the car.

1887
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:46,360
Speaker 3: Now you're getting it, you see, it's only been years

1888
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:50,639
Speaker 3: two and a half point favorite tonight. It's an interesting

1889
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:56,080
Speaker 3: BYU team because as of the latest Lonardi bracketology, he's

1890
01:39:56,080 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 3: still got BYU as a six seed. But BYU as

1891
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 3: of late, has lost three out of four. They've lost

1892
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:08,280
Speaker 3: their second leading scorer for the season in Richie Saunders,

1893
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:11,559
Speaker 3: and then those two losses neither of them very competitive.

1894
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 3: They got blown out at home against UCF where they

1895
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:17,920
Speaker 3: gave up ninety seven points to the Knights, and then

1896
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:22,599
Speaker 3: just earlier or later last week they went to West

1897
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:24,880
Speaker 3: Virginia and lost seventy nine to seventy one. They do

1898
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:28,000
Speaker 3: have a win over Iowa State in that time, I

1899
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:31,160
Speaker 3: lost to Arizona. But this is BYU without their second

1900
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 3: leading scorer. It's a team that's all of a sudden

1901
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:38,200
Speaker 3: giving up a lot of points and an opportunity, as

1902
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:40,800
Speaker 3: Joe Daniman said, for the Bearcats to make a little

1903
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:43,560
Speaker 3: bit of a statement, that's what they have. They have

1904
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 3: two Quad one opportunities left tonight at Fifthirth Arena, quad

1905
01:40:49,160 --> 01:40:53,160
Speaker 3: one opportunity on the road at TCU this weekend. And

1906
01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:58,760
Speaker 3: if you follow the net rankings in college basketball, TCU

1907
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:03,799
Speaker 3: is high enough in the net that that would quantify

1908
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 3: as a Quad one win right now on the road

1909
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 3: at TCU the latest net rankings, I was pulling them

1910
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:13,960
Speaker 3: up just a moment ago. TCU's forty fifth in the net.

1911
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 3: So it's still an opportunity at a Quad one for

1912
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:21,280
Speaker 3: the Bearcats, who right now quad one wins on the season,

1913
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 3: they're two for ten. That number could change drastically if

1914
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:32,479
Speaker 3: you get to four in ten Quad one opportunities. They're

1915
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:35,479
Speaker 3: four and two in those quad two opportunities. So it's

1916
01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:40,000
Speaker 3: an interesting team. It's an interesting case study. But here's

1917
01:41:40,040 --> 01:41:44,679
Speaker 3: my overall thought on the Bearcats. Who will honor Gisel

1918
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 3: James tonight? I'm not sorry they honored Dayde Thomas, Jayleen, Celestine,

1919
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 3: Babba Miller. It's an opportunity to one finish the Big Twelve.

1920
01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:00,479
Speaker 3: If they win tonight, they guarantee you five hund finishing

1921
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:02,680
Speaker 3: the Big twelve. If they win the next two, that's

1922
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:07,519
Speaker 3: a ten and eight Big Twelve season. That's good. Then

1923
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:09,320
Speaker 3: they go to the Big twelve tournament and if they

1924
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:12,679
Speaker 3: win two in that, now it's a twenty win team.

1925
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:15,320
Speaker 3: So if you're going down the committee list, you say, okay,

1926
01:42:16,120 --> 01:42:18,639
Speaker 3: twenty wins, what are they in the Big twelve? Ten

1927
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:23,120
Speaker 3: and eight? Well, what are their wins? Kansas on the road,

1928
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 3: Iowa state? You would add BYU, you would add TCU.

1929
01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, the resume gets built and built

1930
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:33,160
Speaker 3: and built a little bit higher. So none of this happens,

1931
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:37,439
Speaker 3: none of it if you don't take care of business tonight.

1932
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 3: But take care of business tonight, and that conversation gets

1933
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:45,479
Speaker 3: a little more real, leading into Saturday, and if you

1934
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:49,800
Speaker 3: win Saturday, that conversation certainly goes up to another level

1935
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:53,960
Speaker 3: the following weekend. So the Bearcats are here in this

1936
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 3: spot because they lost, call it what it is, to

1937
01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 3: Eastern Michigan, and they lost to Xavier, who are not

1938
01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:01,519
Speaker 3: having good seasons. The other losses you could probably get

1939
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 3: away with, maybe one of the West Virginia games, maybe

1940
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 3: Arizona State. But even though you look past that, because

1941
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:10,799
Speaker 3: it's tough in the Big Twelve, it's the non conference

1942
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:15,240
Speaker 3: that has crushed the Cincinnati Bearcats and it's kind of

1943
01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 3: led to this point where it's must win situations now.

1944
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:24,720
Speaker 3: Surely the last two regular season games, some say, win

1945
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 3: one Big Twelve tournament game and you got a chance

1946
01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:30,120
Speaker 3: at nineteen. I still think twenty is the number I think.

1947
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:32,719
Speaker 3: I think a twenty win team with ten Big Twelve

1948
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:35,800
Speaker 3: wins is hard to keep out of the tournament if

1949
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:39,160
Speaker 3: you're going on conference strength of schedule. That's just how

1950
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:42,280
Speaker 3: I view it. Are the buck guys back in action

1951
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:46,120
Speaker 3: tonight Austin. You get action there tomorrow. They don't play

1952
01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:48,599
Speaker 3: till tomorrow tomorrow, and then they have a big one

1953
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:52,559
Speaker 3: on Saturday against another bubble team. Uh, with the Indiana Hoosiers.

1954
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:56,639
Speaker 4: I can't stop looking at the videos of the big

1955
01:43:56,760 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 4: twelve led court. Oh man, that changes to all the

1956
01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:03,559
Speaker 4: different teams courts, and now people are are big scared

1957
01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:06,479
Speaker 4: that this thing is gonna get hacked. I saw that,

1958
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:11,439
Speaker 4: and there's gonna be some bad stuff potentially on the floor.

1959
01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 4: What do you think about this? Because like they show that,

1960
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:17,000
Speaker 4: you see one and the floor is black. Yeah, but

1961
01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:19,840
Speaker 4: then they'll flip to Colorado or Arizona State and it's

1962
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:21,240
Speaker 4: like a typical wood floor.

1963
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Speaker 17: Yeah.

1964
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 3: I think it's a cool look. But I just anytime

1965
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:29,200
Speaker 3: you're talking about technology, like to me, what if there's

1966
01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 3: like a short and all of a sudden, like the

1967
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:35,840
Speaker 3: three point line just disappears or you know what. I

1968
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:39,360
Speaker 3: just I I think it's cool. Don't get me wrong.

1969
01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:41,560
Speaker 4: I think it's a it's a it's a How is

1970
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:45,000
Speaker 4: it possible that it doesn't like it bounces the same

1971
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:48,599
Speaker 4: as a normal floor would? Also true, that doesn't seem possible, right,

1972
01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:52,240
Speaker 4: I don't think so they say it does. But what

1973
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:54,479
Speaker 4: if somebody gets hurt then they're gonna blame the floor,

1974
01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:57,160
Speaker 4: And yeah, what if people can shoot poorly because of

1975
01:44:57,240 --> 01:45:00,320
Speaker 4: the I just I just want to know, is is

1976
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:03,240
Speaker 4: this really necessary?

1977
01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:06,040
Speaker 1: It looks cool?

1978
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:08,439
Speaker 3: Now there are like there are there are places that

1979
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 3: do like and I've seen this all over now that

1980
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 3: do like the really cool player intros that have like

1981
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:18,360
Speaker 3: the sure the dynamic introduction type things videos, But that's

1982
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:22,719
Speaker 3: more like a projector above the court. This being used

1983
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:25,880
Speaker 3: throughout the game. I think, is it's gonna be interesting,

1984
01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:27,519
Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say. Do we know what

1985
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:30,120
Speaker 3: the plan is like throughout the game? Are they going

1986
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:32,519
Speaker 3: to change the floor during the game? I would imagine

1987
01:45:32,560 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 3: like timeouts and things like that, it changes all the time, sure,

1988
01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 3: but like during up there, yeah, surely, Like during the game.

1989
01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:42,120
Speaker 3: It's not like can you imagine a three goes in

1990
01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:44,320
Speaker 3: and there's like a fireball that shoots across the court

1991
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 3: kind of cool, or like when the ball dribbles there's

1992
01:45:47,120 --> 01:45:49,799
Speaker 3: like you can see indents on the court underneath.

1993
01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:52,599
Speaker 4: I've seen yeah, almost like they're playing on glass, yes,

1994
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:55,920
Speaker 4: breaking or something. Because I have seen floors like this

1995
01:45:56,280 --> 01:46:01,919
Speaker 4: used at practice facilities to like each plays and spacing

1996
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:04,439
Speaker 4: and positioning, and that I think is cool. I know

1997
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:07,599
Speaker 4: that that's the case in some NBA places where they're

1998
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 4: able to do that I just don't know about a

1999
01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:10,640
Speaker 4: full fledged game on it.

2000
01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:11,160
Speaker 3: Okay.

2001
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Speaker 4: Will the floor at some point be broken during the

2002
01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 4: Big twelve Tournament. I think in some way it will be. Okay,

2003
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 4: I think somebody I think it's a hard foul, comes

2004
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:24,559
Speaker 4: down hard, just shorts out.

2005
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:27,800
Speaker 3: And I'm sure to an extent that's something that you'll

2006
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:31,479
Speaker 3: be able to bet on. Yeah, probably so I know

2007
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 3: something else you can bet on. Matty long Pants, Matt McClain,

2008
01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:41,439
Speaker 3: Matthias w Longball spring training home runs. Let's talk about

2009
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:44,679
Speaker 3: what home run derby looked like in Goodyear Arizona yesterday,

2010
01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:48,120
Speaker 3: and some other top spring training performances going on around

2011
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:52,240
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball. Next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station,

2012
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Speaker 3: No scripts.

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01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:57,840
Speaker 1: No filters, just pure sports talk.

2014
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Speaker 2: Moeger Today at three pm on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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01:47:04,479 --> 01:47:10,000
Speaker 1: Man, this world can tame.

2016
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Speaker 15: You, Bob.

2017
01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:15,599
Speaker 11: And tamp soul.

2018
01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 3: Oh man, do you remember this?

2019
01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:20,760
Speaker 6: Yes?

2020
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:26,439
Speaker 3: Between the Devil and me here. I forgot all about this.

2021
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:32,639
Speaker 3: I just found it during the break the ogs. No, yep,

2022
01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:39,080
Speaker 3: they get it. Man, I think this is this is weird.

2023
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:41,160
Speaker 3: I think you cried the first time we played this

2024
01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:44,880
Speaker 3: on Might half. I know I had goosebumps. Yeah, it's

2025
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:47,840
Speaker 3: hard not to just let songs like this go. I

2026
01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:51,760
Speaker 3: know it's not what we're supposed to do anyway, man,

2027
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:58,560
Speaker 3: But when those gates swing open wide, come on in,

2028
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:07,160
Speaker 3: come home in none to see here, it's tough. It's

2029
01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:09,920
Speaker 3: a daily battle, gates of hell. That's what pictuers see

2030
01:48:10,280 --> 01:48:12,640
Speaker 3: when going up against Maddy long Pants. I mean, not

2031
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 3: only Maddy long Pants, how about this whole roster right now.

2032
01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:20,840
Speaker 3: Oh kidd, bad day to be a Cub pitcher yesterday.

2033
01:48:22,479 --> 01:48:24,960
Speaker 3: Not a great day to be Brady Singer either, But well,

2034
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:26,439
Speaker 3: Brady Singer didn't get any help.

2035
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:27,960
Speaker 4: I don't know if there was something going on with

2036
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:31,559
Speaker 4: that high sky out there in Arizona, but nobody seemed

2037
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:33,559
Speaker 4: to be able to catch the baseball even when they

2038
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:34,400
Speaker 4: hit him in the gloves.

2039
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:36,519
Speaker 3: You think it was hiding something out there A little

2040
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:39,200
Speaker 3: bit tell you they're just The way that they just

2041
01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:42,360
Speaker 3: give out hits is crazy. Yeah.

2042
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:45,759
Speaker 4: I think Tommy Thrall described the official scorer as Oprah

2043
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:47,719
Speaker 4: down the hall, giving hits away to everybody.

2044
01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:48,040
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2045
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:49,960
Speaker 3: I looked at the box square to the game, and

2046
01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:52,240
Speaker 3: I saw that there wasn't one air charged to the

2047
01:48:52,280 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 3: Reds yesterday. And that's wrong. It's not ideal, and Brady

2048
01:48:57,320 --> 01:48:59,400
Speaker 3: Singer is the one that has to answer for that. Yeah,

2049
01:48:59,479 --> 01:49:03,040
Speaker 3: poor guy. Brady Singer's final line two winning, seven hits,

2050
01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:05,920
Speaker 3: five earned runed, earned runs, with two walks.

2051
01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:08,559
Speaker 4: The worst part about that is the walks. Yeah, those

2052
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:12,479
Speaker 4: runs are not all earned. And it was his first

2053
01:49:12,520 --> 01:49:15,320
Speaker 4: appearance of the spring. Brady Singer did not pitch as

2054
01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:17,519
Speaker 4: poorly as that line would indicate.

2055
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:25,400
Speaker 3: Agreed, Agreed, But nonetheless, the walks are are talking point

2056
01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:28,800
Speaker 3: going forward. I'll tell you what I also want to

2057
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:32,120
Speaker 3: make note of. Tj Antone had a nice inning yesterday.

2058
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:35,639
Speaker 3: And I'm not just saying this because you know he's

2059
01:49:35,680 --> 01:49:38,679
Speaker 3: a friend of the show, but I hope tj Antone

2060
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:39,800
Speaker 3: finds a way to make this roster.

2061
01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:40,400
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2062
01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:42,639
Speaker 4: I mean if Graham Ashcraft keeps doing what he's doing,

2063
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:47,400
Speaker 4: but I wouldn't, I wouldn't have a legitimate shot to

2064
01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:48,320
Speaker 4: make the ball club.

2065
01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:52,560
Speaker 3: But you talk about a guy multiple Tommy John surgeries

2066
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 3: that is still going out there and still trying to

2067
01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:58,880
Speaker 3: make a ball club. I give him credit for what

2068
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:02,719
Speaker 3: he's doing and what he's going through, and hope nothing

2069
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:05,439
Speaker 3: more than to see him succeed. Sam Mall had a

2070
01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:11,680
Speaker 3: two strikeout, scoreless inning as well. Brandon Williamson also when

2071
01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:14,280
Speaker 3: two innings, struck out two, did walk one, but did

2072
01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:17,479
Speaker 3: not give up a hit. For the Cincinnati Reds, yesterday

2073
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 3: was not as much about the pitching, though, It was

2074
01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:24,559
Speaker 3: about what this team did at the plate. Noelve Marte,

2075
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:30,280
Speaker 3: Garrett Hampson, Reese Hines, Matt McClain twice. I said, Matt

2076
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:35,360
Speaker 3: McClain twice, you want to talk about seeing the ball, clearly.

2077
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:39,120
Speaker 3: South Stewart also hit a home and it's not like

2078
01:50:39,240 --> 01:50:41,200
Speaker 3: these guys are hitting home runs Austin that are just

2079
01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:47,000
Speaker 3: clearing the wall. These guys are hitting bombs, right, absolute bombs.

2080
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:49,240
Speaker 3: And look, I know every game is not going to

2081
01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:52,200
Speaker 3: come together like it did yesterday, But you don't just

2082
01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:55,040
Speaker 3: talk about the home runs, you know, you talk about

2083
01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:58,120
Speaker 3: key Brian Hayes with a nice double into the gap.

2084
01:50:58,200 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 3: Spencer Steer got him off an extra base hit. It

2085
01:51:01,720 --> 01:51:04,200
Speaker 3: was one of those games where it just felt like

2086
01:51:04,280 --> 01:51:07,840
Speaker 3: kind of everything coming together for the Cincinnati read south Stewart,

2087
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:09,680
Speaker 3: along with that home run, had a double in the

2088
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:10,360
Speaker 3: game as well.

2089
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:14,040
Speaker 4: I think what I liked from yesterday's game is the

2090
01:51:14,200 --> 01:51:19,439
Speaker 4: mix of patients and really punishing the pitches that were

2091
01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:22,280
Speaker 4: in the zone. They had eight walks as a team

2092
01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:26,400
Speaker 4: and just four strikeouts. Sign me up for that every

2093
01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:30,880
Speaker 4: single time I possibly can have it. I think Hayes

2094
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:32,800
Speaker 4: is a good example of that. McClain, I think is

2095
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:34,680
Speaker 4: the best example of that. There were a couple of

2096
01:51:35,320 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 4: plate appearances in which you could just tell he was

2097
01:51:39,120 --> 01:51:43,080
Speaker 4: seeing the ball really well and could immediately say, Okay,

2098
01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:45,800
Speaker 4: that is a non competitive pitch. I'm not even worried

2099
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:48,320
Speaker 4: about it. I'm not even considering that pitch. I'm spitting

2100
01:51:48,360 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 4: on it. And for him to be able to obviously

2101
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:55,040
Speaker 4: be that locked in, I think is a really good

2102
01:51:55,120 --> 01:51:58,360
Speaker 4: sign about his approach and the adjustments that he's made,

2103
01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:00,280
Speaker 4: and I think it's also a good sign for the

2104
01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:02,840
Speaker 4: rest of the team. Key Brian Hayes was one of

2105
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:06,720
Speaker 4: those guys two hits and a walk. Jose Travino had

2106
01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:10,439
Speaker 4: a walk, JJ Blede had to walk, Sal Stewart walked,

2107
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:13,960
Speaker 4: TJ Friedo walked. Like all of these guys being able

2108
01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:19,000
Speaker 4: to really, you know, not swinging at pitches outside the

2109
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:20,519
Speaker 4: zone that are going to get them in trouble or

2110
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:22,400
Speaker 4: turn them into easy outs. I think that's been a

2111
01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:25,799
Speaker 4: theme for the most part offensively to this point in spring.

2112
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:28,759
Speaker 3: I think it's worth noting, and Joe danim Gonna alluded

2113
01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:30,880
Speaker 3: to this as well, and it's a smaller sample size.

2114
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:35,080
Speaker 3: I like the thought process here. Matt McClain, We've talked

2115
01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:36,479
Speaker 3: a lot about him, we will talk a lot about

2116
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 3: him because he's such a key part of this team.

2117
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:47,920
Speaker 3: So far, one strikeout in spring training this year. So

2118
01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:51,400
Speaker 3: I just look at a guy in Matt McClain who

2119
01:52:52,160 --> 01:52:55,240
Speaker 3: last year struggled so much. In fourteen at bats this year,

2120
01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:59,880
Speaker 3: a double, three home runs, nine RBIs, he's walked three

2121
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:03,000
Speaker 3: times and struck out just once. For a guy who's

2122
01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:06,240
Speaker 3: swinging mis rate was so high last year and became

2123
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:09,679
Speaker 3: so problematic, that was really really good to see yesterday

2124
01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:12,720
Speaker 3: the strikeout numbers as a whole. As you mentioned being

2125
01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:15,200
Speaker 3: down for the Cincinnati Reds, I thought it was good

2126
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:18,519
Speaker 3: to see Spencer Steer get himself an extra base hit.

2127
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:22,559
Speaker 3: But anytime you put up seventeen runs and you hit

2128
01:53:22,640 --> 01:53:24,840
Speaker 3: fourteen times, there's not going to be a lot that

2129
01:53:24,920 --> 01:53:26,080
Speaker 3: you don't like from an outing like that.

2130
01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:29,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there are certainly things that you take it

2131
01:53:29,720 --> 01:53:32,760
Speaker 4: with a grain of salt, like out there in Arizona,

2132
01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:35,360
Speaker 4: breaking balls don't move as much just because of the

2133
01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:38,040
Speaker 4: way that the air and sometimes they can hang up

2134
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:41,240
Speaker 4: there and sometimes they can kind of flatten. But I

2135
01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:44,760
Speaker 4: mean everybody is going through that. Every pitcher is dealing

2136
01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:47,880
Speaker 4: with that, and it's not uncommon. And there are also

2137
01:53:47,960 --> 01:53:50,160
Speaker 4: guys that don't hit the ball very well in spring training.

2138
01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:52,240
Speaker 4: And the other part to me that I think is

2139
01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:56,479
Speaker 4: important is they put up six earned runs on Jamison

2140
01:53:56,600 --> 01:54:00,240
Speaker 4: tie On hit two homers against Jamison Town. It's the

2141
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,840
Speaker 4: Cubs were out there throwing their worst minor leaguers. I mean,

2142
01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:05,519
Speaker 4: James and Tyne has had a very good big league

2143
01:54:05,600 --> 01:54:09,040
Speaker 4: career and he's no slouts. He's gonna be a guy

2144
01:54:09,080 --> 01:54:11,240
Speaker 4: who pitches some big innings for the Cubs this year.

2145
01:54:11,320 --> 01:54:14,000
Speaker 4: And so to be able to do that against quality

2146
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:18,240
Speaker 4: pitching and not just low end non roster guys is important.

2147
01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:22,840
Speaker 3: Mentioned this with Joe Daneman at the start of our

2148
01:54:22,960 --> 01:54:26,559
Speaker 3: number two but MLB dot com David Adler put together

2149
01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:31,320
Speaker 3: a list of some of Spring training's most impressive performers

2150
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:36,000
Speaker 3: up to this point cutting off today, and Chase Burns

2151
01:54:36,160 --> 01:54:39,600
Speaker 3: was listed on that list number one. He had Carlos

2152
01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:44,480
Speaker 3: Lagrange for the Yankees. His average fastball velocity has been

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Speaker 3: at one hundred miles an hour. Twenty two year old

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Speaker 3: prospect has been killing it for the Yankees. Number two

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01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:54,120
Speaker 3: Caglioni for the Royals. Number three we've talked about Connor

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Speaker 3: Griffin a lot for the Pittsburgh Pirates, but number four

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Speaker 3: on his list Chase Burns. Last year four or five

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Speaker 3: seven ERA. It says as a rookie that era doesn't

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Speaker 3: show ridiculously how nasty he is. Pay attention to the

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Speaker 3: thirty six percent strikeout rate and thirty two percent swinging

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01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:16,040
Speaker 3: mis rate last year, and he's doin it again this year.

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Speaker 3: Two outings so far, he's getting swinging misses on fifty

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Speaker 3: four percent of his pitches. That's the second highest wift

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Speaker 3: rate of any pitcher with at least twenty five swings

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Speaker 3: that get him against him in spring training ninety seven

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Speaker 3: average on the fastball, forty one percent with rate. And

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Speaker 3: how about this Austin the slider that we talked about

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Speaker 3: with Chase Burns seventy five percent with rate, ninety mile

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Speaker 3: an hour average right now, he has been absolutely nasty.

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Speaker 3: And others, not just here in Cincinnati, anyone that's been

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Speaker 3: at spring training, has talked about Chase Burns. He's being

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Speaker 3: talked about at a national level as well. Right now,

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Speaker 3: he's been awesome. Let's take a break. When we come back,

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Speaker 3: We'll grab a couple of your phone calls before getting

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Speaker 3: to Moeger ONPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Welcome back,

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Speaker 3: since he three to sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: Before we get to Mowago, Let's grab a couple of

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Speaker 3: your phone calls. Greg is calling in. What's going on? Greg?

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Speaker 34: How much you know when you were mentioning the Aracats

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Speaker 34: what they had to do. And you know I've heard

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Speaker 34: this before, you know, on Selection Sunday. But I think

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Speaker 34: another real big thing to add is if, and that's

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Speaker 34: a big if they can get that four game winning streak,

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Speaker 34: because I've heard over the years they said, well, this

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Speaker 34: team only won nineteen games, but you know they won

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Speaker 34: sticked out of their last seven. They had a strong finish,

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Speaker 34: and I think that strong finish really sticks out any

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Speaker 34: way he can get it. And then on Maddy Longpans,

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Speaker 34: I really think that the fact that he had such

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Speaker 34: he had a shoulder injury, and I'm just hoping that

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Speaker 34: that's what kept him down. And you know I always

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Speaker 34: parking back to you know, Devin Mezeraka about fifteen years

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Speaker 34: ago that shoulder injury finished him. So you know, I

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Speaker 34: just think that could be, you know, let's holding him back.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, one day I want.

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Speaker 34: To mention, Uh, you know, I always like Mike's phone calls.

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Speaker 34: But he said I think was last week we were

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Speaker 34: talking about Gus Bell and Wally Post and how Gus

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Speaker 34: Bell finished is a platoon with Wally Well, let me tell.

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Speaker 3: You that never happened.

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Speaker 34: Gus Bell was a good hitter. He's probably the top

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Speaker 34: center other than Willie Mays back in the day. He

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Speaker 34: was the top center fielder period.

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Speaker 11: And he didn't push him with with Wally Post.

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Speaker 8: So anyway, that's not a big deal.

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Speaker 34: But I guess that wasn't the fact for Mike.

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Speaker 3: All good by the way we play at noon on Sunday,

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01:57:56,280 --> 01:57:56,920
Speaker 3: tournament action.

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Speaker 29: So what that was?

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Speaker 3: That's great?

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01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:04,360
Speaker 40: When is the time of my most important.

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Speaker 3: That's it noon high noon on Sunday. Okay, I love it.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Greg, Hey see Budd, you know, shout out Austin

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Speaker 3: to Greg who has back to back weeks come and

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Speaker 3: checked out the Evendale Rec League on Sunday and was

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Speaker 3: nice enough this past Sunday he brought me a birthday

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Speaker 3: card wow from him and his wife.

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Speaker 4: Well, Greg is incredibly kind to his and I, you know,

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Speaker 4: I worry he must not have much going on. If

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Speaker 4: he's goings on Sundays back to back weeks.

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Speaker 3: That's it. You want to talk about missing football season?

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Speaker 3: Tournament time coming up on Sunday as well. We're ready

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Speaker 3: to go. Uh, Mike is calling him?

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Speaker 8: What's up?

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01:58:45,240 --> 01:58:45,400
Speaker 3: Mike?

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Speaker 40: Hey, guys, thanks for letting me on. Did that guy

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01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:53,760
Speaker 40: that just called say something about Wally Posted with Gush Bell?

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Speaker 3: That's he said that? You were incorrect?

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Speaker 40: You're well, he's dead ass. Well, I don't know who

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01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:03,920
Speaker 40: this clown is, but he's wrong.

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Speaker 3: All right, we don't need to call names. We like Greg.

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Speaker 3: Greg's a good guy.

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Speaker 40: I'm sure he is a good guy. But he's wrong

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01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:14,680
Speaker 40: on that because Wally Posts only played right field or

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01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:17,480
Speaker 40: left field, I'm sorry, and gust Beell only played left

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Speaker 40: field wide because Frank Robinson owned right field and Vada

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Speaker 40: Penston owned center field. So you're wrong, my friends. I'm

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01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:27,280
Speaker 40: sure you're a wonderful man, but you're wrong.

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Speaker 4: Well, they both you know, if you go back to

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Speaker 4: the fifties, Mike, I mean they're both when they were

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Speaker 4: both playing for the Reds, They're both played at one

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Speaker 4: hundred and fifty plus games a year.

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Speaker 40: Well, no, they both didn't play one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 40: plus games a year because they platooned him in left field.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at the stats right now. In fifty four,

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Speaker 4: Gus Bell played in one hundred and fifty three games

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Speaker 4: with the Reds. In fifty five he played one hundred

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01:59:53,920 --> 01:59:55,840
Speaker 4: and fifty four, and fifty six he played in one

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Speaker 4: hundred and fifty. What about Wally and Wally post in

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Speaker 4: nineteen fifty four plus one hundred and thirty. In nineteen

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Speaker 4: fifty five he played in one hundred and fifty four.

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Speaker 4: In nineteen fifty six he played one hundred and forty three.

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Speaker 40: And here's the reason for that, because Gus was a

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Speaker 40: left handed left fielder, which is more advantageous, and he

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Speaker 40: he a lot of times came in for defensive reasons

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Speaker 40: depending on the pitcher. Anyway, I won't be labor that point,

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Speaker 40: but I know what I saw at Crosley Field probably

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Speaker 40: fifty times as a young Laddiebucks and the guy that

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Speaker 40: called earlier that said, you know, if Wes Miller's smart,

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Speaker 40: he'll double team the prolific scorer from bringing me up

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Speaker 40: well breddy. If it was that easy, everybody would have

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Speaker 40: done that and.

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Speaker 11: The guy wouldn't be the scorer or he is.

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Speaker 40: So it's not as easy as that, am I correct?

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Speaker 3: Tony correct? I think what's the hardest part about Debonsta

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Speaker 3: is his game is all around. He's very hard to

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Speaker 3: double because of how well he moves without the basketball.

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Speaker 3: He's not just a guy that requires the ball in

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Speaker 3: his hands at all times. And if you look at

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Speaker 3: the success other teams have had UCF crushed BYU, de

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02:01:06,040 --> 02:01:09,160
Speaker 3: Bonsta had twenty nine. He had thirty five in a

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Speaker 3: loss against Arizona. He had thirty six and a two

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02:01:12,600 --> 02:01:16,760
Speaker 3: point win against Baylor. What I'm getting at is there

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Speaker 3: are a lot of games this year that BYU has

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Speaker 3: lost and de Bonsta has had fantastic games without Saunders.

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Speaker 3: My approach would be, Okay, I know de bons is

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Speaker 3: going to get his I can't let anybody else go off.

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Speaker 3: If I can contain the other four and de bons

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Speaker 3: to scores thirty, I still think the Bearcats can win

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Speaker 3: the game.

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Speaker 40: I well I know the Bearcats can win the game

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02:01:39,840 --> 02:01:42,320
Speaker 40: if those two big guys do anything and then deep

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02:01:42,480 --> 02:01:44,920
Speaker 40: data shows up. Yeah, for a change, I.

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Speaker 3: Just don't think you put so much focus on AJ

2285
02:01:47,800 --> 02:01:50,720
Speaker 3: because other teams haven't. He's gonna get his points. Just

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02:01:50,760 --> 02:01:53,080
Speaker 3: don't let anyone else go off for big nights against you.

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Speaker 9: I got you.

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Speaker 40: Well, we're rooting for the Cats.

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Speaker 11: Cards. Let's see if you give.

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Speaker 40: Me another minute, get my brain back in gear here.

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Speaker 40: Do you think it's possible if if if Burns and

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Speaker 40: either Petty or what's the other guys the other loud

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Speaker 40: good rookie. Yeah, if either one of those guys turns

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02:02:16,000 --> 02:02:19,040
Speaker 40: out great. I wonder if Tito would consider a six

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Speaker 40: man rotation because there are two or three other managers

2296
02:02:21,920 --> 02:02:24,440
Speaker 40: in the league that are going to six man rotations

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02:02:24,520 --> 02:02:26,280
Speaker 40: this year to save from arms.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's the big thing. I think it's

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Speaker 3: the it's the inning. Is there an inning restriction on

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Speaker 3: Chase Burns? Is there one on Red Louder? Because that

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Speaker 3: would maybe help you out in that sense. But but

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Speaker 3: I look what Joe Daneman said today. He could see

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Speaker 3: a scenario where by the end of the year, Chase

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Speaker 3: Burns is not battling for the fit spot. But he's

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Speaker 3: he's your two or three in the rotation. I think

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Speaker 3: he's got that much upside.

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Speaker 40: Well, let's hope. So boy, that would be an awesome situation,

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02:02:52,240 --> 02:02:52,680
Speaker 40: wouldn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, seventy five rate on the slider right now is

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Speaker 3: pretty good.

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Speaker 40: That's pretty good. But again, we can't put something we

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Speaker 40: don't want to get too high on this spring training stuff.

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Speaker 40: I mean, it's hard not to because you do it

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Speaker 40: out of out of hope, right out of like yeah,

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Speaker 40: but it's but it's really not very realistic. And last,

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Speaker 40: but not least, I think the four best teams in

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Speaker 40: college basketball Arizona, Yukon, Florida, and Duke. That's not a

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Speaker 40: genius revelation. However, wouldn't it be cool if each one

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Speaker 40: could be in a separate region, if they would do

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Speaker 40: it the way they should, Yukon would be in the East,

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Speaker 40: Duke would be in the Southeast. I don't know then

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Speaker 40: Cozona is going to be out west, so it depends

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Speaker 40: how they distribute Yukon, Florida and Duke.

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Speaker 3: Right yes, I think right now it's it's hard to

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Speaker 3: go against Florida, but it's also hard to go against

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Speaker 3: the way Duke's playing right now as well.

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Speaker 40: You're right, But I just hope that two of those

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02:03:52,760 --> 02:03:56,040
Speaker 40: teams aren't in the same dog gone, because then you're

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Speaker 40: not going to see one of them. Yeah, and you

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Speaker 40: see any team at this point that you think could

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Speaker 40: just get hot and blow people. I thought of Arkansas,

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Speaker 40: but not anymore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I think over the next week

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Speaker 3: or so you still might see a little bit of separation.

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Speaker 3: Michigan State's always dangerous this time of the year. Yeah, Michigan. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Michigan with their bigs in the style they play. I

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02:04:21,480 --> 02:04:24,120
Speaker 3: think Saint John's if they're playing the right basketball and

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Speaker 3: can score it. Alabama is always a team because of

2339
02:04:26,320 --> 02:04:29,560
Speaker 3: the percentage in which they shoot outside. But those top

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02:04:29,640 --> 02:04:31,720
Speaker 3: four right now are those top five when you throw

2341
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Speaker 3: Floord into the mix. I think it's hard to go

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Speaker 3: against any of that.

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Speaker 40: Austin, are you going over to Tony's March Madness party

2344
02:04:40,680 --> 02:04:43,200
Speaker 40: on Friday when you guys are off, It's gonna be wild?

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Speaker 13: No?

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02:04:44,400 --> 02:04:46,200
Speaker 3: I didn't ortunately.

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02:04:47,440 --> 02:04:49,880
Speaker 40: Yeah, my buddy goes down to that bar everybody likes

2348
02:04:49,920 --> 02:04:52,480
Speaker 40: and ready, and he said, the deal is, everybody's going

2349
02:04:52,520 --> 02:04:56,400
Speaker 40: to Tony's house that's.

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Speaker 3: News to me. I will not be in attendance at

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Speaker 3: that one. Thanks, guys, have a good one. We got

2352
02:05:04,440 --> 02:05:06,880
Speaker 3: to get some Bell and Wally conversation going. We got

2353
02:05:06,920 --> 02:05:11,800
Speaker 3: to get to the bottom of that well. I was

2354
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Speaker 3: looking it up. I think I'm leaning towards Greg. I'm

2355
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Speaker 3: leaning towards I'll discuss when I see with Greg on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: More with Mo Wager he joins us next Honey Spill

2357
02:05:23,480 --> 02:05:26,959
Speaker 3: come prepared. I know that he will. Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: W c K now it's time for.

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Speaker 2: A quick hits on Tony Pikes since he was looking

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Speaker 2: for Mo's.

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Speaker 11: In ability.

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Speaker 3: Three year extension. Try Tony Mo.

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Speaker 4: It is being reported by Tom Pelissero, Ian Rappaport and

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02:05:52,040 --> 02:06:00,600
Speaker 4: others that the Cincinnati Bengals officially are not tagging Treydrickson.

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Speaker 4: Ndrickson will become an unrestricted free agent, and as Ian

2366
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Speaker 4: Rapaport said, quote, one of the NFL's best is free.

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Speaker 3: Can't wait till the moment he signs elsewhere, and then everyone,

2368
02:06:12,280 --> 02:06:15,480
Speaker 3: as a Bengals fans just lose their mind because he

2369
02:06:15,560 --> 02:06:16,840
Speaker 3: signed for that and we couldn't do that.

2370
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Speaker 25: There's gonna be There's gonna be one more thing that

2371
02:06:20,240 --> 02:06:24,680
Speaker 25: happens here, just one more like just weird. Yeah, like

2372
02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:27,440
Speaker 25: Trey's gonna show up at a Bengals practice or something.

2373
02:06:27,520 --> 02:06:29,720
Speaker 25: Even after he signed with another team, he'd be like

2374
02:06:29,760 --> 02:06:34,480
Speaker 25: a parting shot, you know. In twenty twelve, I went

2375
02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:38,720
Speaker 25: through a divorce. My first wife and I got separated

2376
02:06:38,760 --> 02:06:43,640
Speaker 25: in April, but we had the divorce hearing in July.

2377
02:06:44,000 --> 02:06:46,400
Speaker 25: Very amicable divorce, so you have to get a divorce.

2378
02:06:46,960 --> 02:06:49,560
Speaker 8: This was the way to do it. But I remember,

2379
02:06:49,800 --> 02:06:50,760
Speaker 8: like after three.

2380
02:06:50,640 --> 02:06:53,800
Speaker 25: Months of kind of knowing, like, all right, the court

2381
02:06:53,920 --> 02:06:57,120
Speaker 25: date is here, walking into that courthouse with her and

2382
02:06:57,160 --> 02:07:01,720
Speaker 25: looking at her, going like really this And that's how

2383
02:07:01,760 --> 02:07:03,080
Speaker 25: I feel about Trey Hendrickson.

2384
02:07:03,320 --> 02:07:06,920
Speaker 8: Man, I'm ready to move on, but I'm not entirely sure.

2385
02:07:06,960 --> 02:07:07,640
Speaker 8: I'm ready to move on.

2386
02:07:09,160 --> 02:07:11,600
Speaker 25: I have and we have, together, the three of us,

2387
02:07:12,560 --> 02:07:16,240
Speaker 25: we have milked this cow to the point that the

2388
02:07:16,360 --> 02:07:17,280
Speaker 25: Teats have rations.

2389
02:07:18,600 --> 02:07:20,160
Speaker 8: The cow has been very good to us.

2390
02:07:20,920 --> 02:07:27,000
Speaker 25: First Ballot fifteen thirty Ring of Honor inductee, So as

2391
02:07:27,080 --> 02:07:30,080
Speaker 25: a Bengals fan, best free agent signing in the history

2392
02:07:30,080 --> 02:07:33,640
Speaker 25: of the franchise, as a sports talk radio host, Trey,

2393
02:07:34,600 --> 02:07:37,160
Speaker 25: thank you, yes, thank you for the last two years.

2394
02:07:37,280 --> 02:07:39,760
Speaker 3: Thank you for showing up before you went and played eighteen.

2395
02:07:39,920 --> 02:07:42,800
Speaker 25: It's been an absolutely awesome run. And by the way,

2396
02:07:43,200 --> 02:07:45,600
Speaker 25: just the last two years, part of two years ago.

2397
02:07:45,840 --> 02:07:47,560
Speaker 25: I'm not even sure we ever talked about him other

2398
02:07:47,600 --> 02:07:48,800
Speaker 25: than him, Sack and the quarterback.

2399
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Speaker 8: Trey.

2400
02:07:50,120 --> 02:07:52,880
Speaker 25: Thank you, yes, thank you for everything you have done

2401
02:07:52,960 --> 02:07:55,839
Speaker 25: for this radio station. Thank you for all the hours

2402
02:07:56,000 --> 02:07:59,560
Speaker 25: of content you've helped us with. And I will never

2403
02:07:59,640 --> 02:08:02,520
Speaker 25: forget that picture of him that we have in studio

2404
02:08:03,000 --> 02:08:06,480
Speaker 25: is never coming down. What a happy moment, the joy.

2405
02:08:06,520 --> 02:08:08,000
Speaker 25: There's a lot of pictures in here that might never

2406
02:08:08,080 --> 02:08:13,040
Speaker 25: come down. Wow, chemistry pictures, It's just a lot. What

2407
02:08:13,400 --> 02:08:15,000
Speaker 25: what do you got coming up on the program today?

2408
02:08:15,040 --> 02:08:17,560
Speaker 25: Paul Danner Junior is going to be with us to

2409
02:08:17,680 --> 02:08:21,040
Speaker 25: talk about free agency. I only have one half of

2410
02:08:21,120 --> 02:08:24,320
Speaker 25: a segment for Trey with Paul, but there's a lot

2411
02:08:25,600 --> 02:08:28,160
Speaker 25: for just a half a half segment. Okay, I'm not

2412
02:08:28,240 --> 02:08:31,080
Speaker 25: sure there's a human being alive who feels more ready

2413
02:08:31,120 --> 02:08:33,880
Speaker 25: to move on from Trey Hendrickson than Paul Danner, mainly

2414
02:08:33,920 --> 02:08:35,600
Speaker 25: because I've made him talk about him every day for

2415
02:08:35,680 --> 02:08:36,120
Speaker 25: two years.

2416
02:08:37,160 --> 02:08:39,720
Speaker 3: Scott's he's going to walk in smoking a cigar today.

2417
02:08:40,560 --> 02:08:41,360
Speaker 8: No, he has one for me.

2418
02:08:41,920 --> 02:08:44,760
Speaker 25: Scott Sadderfield's on the show at four oh five, and

2419
02:08:45,160 --> 02:08:50,200
Speaker 25: Hunter Samsum, the official bracketologist of our show, and apparently

2420
02:08:50,320 --> 02:08:53,960
Speaker 25: Lances does this always happened where I find folks to

2421
02:08:54,000 --> 02:08:55,760
Speaker 25: get on and then they just get cherry picked.

2422
02:08:55,840 --> 02:08:56,000
Speaker 40: Yep.

2423
02:08:56,640 --> 02:08:58,960
Speaker 3: What's hard to think about the Bearcats. We're gonna find

2424
02:08:59,000 --> 02:09:01,280
Speaker 3: out at five oh five. What does he think about

2425
02:09:01,280 --> 02:09:04,839
Speaker 3: the RedHawks? What do you think about the RedHawks?

2426
02:09:05,400 --> 02:09:07,120
Speaker 8: I think if they win their next two games or

2427
02:09:07,160 --> 02:09:08,040
Speaker 8: a tournament team.

2428
02:09:08,440 --> 02:09:10,040
Speaker 3: I said today, if they lose one of the next

2429
02:09:10,080 --> 02:09:12,520
Speaker 3: two and don't win the MAC Championship, it could get dicey.

2430
02:09:13,160 --> 02:09:15,720
Speaker 8: I don't think they're getting in the two losses. They're

2431
02:09:15,720 --> 02:09:16,160
Speaker 8: not getting in.

2432
02:09:16,720 --> 02:09:17,040
Speaker 3: I don't.

2433
02:09:17,200 --> 02:09:20,120
Speaker 25: I mean, i'd feel bad, but I don't think they

2434
02:09:20,200 --> 02:09:22,640
Speaker 25: can survive two losses because they're not Q one. Now

2435
02:09:22,920 --> 02:09:25,600
Speaker 25: we would see if they lost to Akron, but they're

2436
02:09:25,600 --> 02:09:28,080
Speaker 25: not gonna be Q one or Q two losses, lose

2437
02:09:28,120 --> 02:09:31,440
Speaker 25: the Toledo at home and then losing the MAC tournament.

2438
02:09:31,520 --> 02:09:34,320
Speaker 25: I find it unfortunately hard to believe that Miami is

2439
02:09:34,800 --> 02:09:36,360
Speaker 25: gonna have its name called on selections.

2440
02:09:36,400 --> 02:09:40,320
Speaker 3: Signe. I have finalized my Bearcat take. Okay, twenty's the number,

2441
02:09:40,560 --> 02:09:44,360
Speaker 3: okay with the committee. They see twenty wins, they then go, okay,

2442
02:09:44,400 --> 02:09:46,920
Speaker 3: well what are they in the Big twelve? Whoa ten

2443
02:09:47,000 --> 02:09:50,760
Speaker 3: and eight? Okay, winning record in the Big twelve. Maybe

2444
02:09:51,240 --> 02:09:53,280
Speaker 3: at that point they say in and they don't keep

2445
02:09:53,320 --> 02:09:55,520
Speaker 3: scrolling down and see if they lost to Eastern Michigan.

2446
02:09:56,320 --> 02:09:59,760
Speaker 3: Oh it had to be at home. Yeah, it obviously

2447
02:10:00,080 --> 02:10:02,240
Speaker 3: art tonight and I think if if they win tonight,

2448
02:10:02,400 --> 02:10:06,160
Speaker 3: this discussion becomes a little bit louder going forward, but

2449
02:10:06,760 --> 02:10:08,640
Speaker 3: should be a good opportunity and hopefully it's a great

2450
02:10:08,720 --> 02:10:11,080
Speaker 3: environment tonight at a fifth third roe.

2451
02:10:10,960 --> 02:10:14,120
Speaker 25: I think it will be like it's aj debantsa likely

2452
02:10:14,200 --> 02:10:16,120
Speaker 25: to be the top overall pick in the draft.

2453
02:10:16,440 --> 02:10:17,960
Speaker 8: It's a winnable game. I was wrong.

2454
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:21,080
Speaker 25: I thought they'd be slight dogs, their slight favorites, and

2455
02:10:22,040 --> 02:10:23,480
Speaker 25: they do have an at large chance.

2456
02:10:23,720 --> 02:10:24,760
Speaker 8: It's not a great one.

2457
02:10:25,320 --> 02:10:30,280
Speaker 25: And you know, if the Bearcats win the next four, okay,

2458
02:10:30,400 --> 02:10:32,560
Speaker 25: then what do all those teams in front.

2459
02:10:32,360 --> 02:10:32,760
Speaker 18: Of them do?

2460
02:10:32,960 --> 02:10:37,240
Speaker 25: A lot that happen, but like force force the committee's hand,

2461
02:10:37,400 --> 02:10:41,560
Speaker 25: like make it a conversation. I would feel great if

2462
02:10:41,600 --> 02:10:42,480
Speaker 25: they won the next five.

2463
02:10:43,000 --> 02:10:45,440
Speaker 3: Sure, if you win the next four, though, you, you

2464
02:10:45,520 --> 02:10:48,760
Speaker 3: make the argument how well they're playing going into the tournament. Yeah,

2465
02:10:49,240 --> 02:10:51,240
Speaker 3: I don't know how much that would bode for them,

2466
02:10:51,280 --> 02:10:53,080
Speaker 3: but I think that would be at least a conversation long.

2467
02:10:53,080 --> 02:10:54,440
Speaker 25: Time ago, when I was a kid, it was how

2468
02:10:54,480 --> 02:10:56,240
Speaker 25: are you doing in your last ten They don't really

2469
02:10:56,360 --> 02:10:59,600
Speaker 25: view that as they were part of the process. But

2470
02:11:00,200 --> 02:11:01,720
Speaker 25: I think the thing for me that I hang my

2471
02:11:01,840 --> 02:11:04,880
Speaker 25: hat on is they're playing well. I mean, five of

2472
02:11:04,920 --> 02:11:06,840
Speaker 25: the last six games, I think in four and a

2473
02:11:06,880 --> 02:11:09,760
Speaker 25: half of them, they've played like more than just an

2474
02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:12,800
Speaker 25: NCAA tournament team. The team that I've watched for the

2475
02:11:12,880 --> 02:11:14,640
Speaker 25: better part of the last three and a half weeks

2476
02:11:15,600 --> 02:11:17,760
Speaker 25: can win each of these next four games. And I

2477
02:11:17,840 --> 02:11:20,840
Speaker 25: say that not completely knowing who they would play in

2478
02:11:20,960 --> 02:11:24,160
Speaker 25: the first two in Kansas City, But to me from

2479
02:11:24,200 --> 02:11:27,960
Speaker 25: a basketball perspective, like you give them a shot against

2480
02:11:28,000 --> 02:11:30,160
Speaker 25: BYU because of how they are playing, and you give

2481
02:11:30,240 --> 02:11:32,760
Speaker 25: them a shot on the road against DCU because of

2482
02:11:32,880 --> 02:11:34,880
Speaker 25: how they're playing, and you give them a shot in

2483
02:11:35,000 --> 02:11:38,960
Speaker 25: Kansas City because of how they're playing. Now watch tonight,

2484
02:11:39,000 --> 02:11:41,000
Speaker 25: they'll go like two for twenty one from behind the arc.

2485
02:11:41,320 --> 02:11:43,960
Speaker 25: But they are they do look the part, and they

2486
02:11:44,040 --> 02:11:46,520
Speaker 25: are playing well enough to rattle off a bunch of wins.

2487
02:11:46,560 --> 02:11:49,880
Speaker 3: You mentioned a Bonsta obviously, No, Richie Sounders is a

2488
02:11:49,920 --> 02:11:52,360
Speaker 3: big deal you put on your coaching. How are you

2489
02:11:52,480 --> 02:11:54,960
Speaker 3: trying to limit him? Or like, I'm looking at their

2490
02:11:55,080 --> 02:11:59,080
Speaker 3: their recent games thirty thirty five, twenty nine, twenty nine,

2491
02:11:59,240 --> 02:12:01,400
Speaker 3: twenty four, like, but they've lost three of those like,

2492
02:12:01,560 --> 02:12:03,480
Speaker 3: so it's almost like, do you let him say, Hey,

2493
02:12:03,560 --> 02:12:05,520
Speaker 3: he's gonna get his but we're not gonna let anyone

2494
02:12:05,520 --> 02:12:08,440
Speaker 3: else be think So, he's so talented, he works off

2495
02:12:08,480 --> 02:12:10,080
Speaker 3: the ball, you're not gonna take him out of the game.

2496
02:12:10,120 --> 02:12:12,680
Speaker 25: It was interesting, you know, the different types of players.

2497
02:12:12,760 --> 02:12:16,160
Speaker 25: But last week Christian Anderson, they they didn't change how

2498
02:12:16,200 --> 02:12:18,400
Speaker 25: they defended him. No, they did not, and they ran

2499
02:12:18,480 --> 02:12:21,800
Speaker 25: two guys at him and couldn't really figure out a

2500
02:12:21,840 --> 02:12:24,600
Speaker 25: way to stop anybody else or for that matter, Christian Anderson.

2501
02:12:24,680 --> 02:12:27,200
Speaker 25: So I wonder if there's something that could be applied

2502
02:12:27,240 --> 02:12:28,280
Speaker 25: from that game to tonight.

2503
02:12:28,720 --> 02:12:31,400
Speaker 3: I'm excited for it. I'm obstoked. Yes, before we get

2504
02:12:31,400 --> 02:12:33,480
Speaker 3: to that, I get to stoke The Mowagger Show shortened

2505
02:12:33,560 --> 02:12:35,600
Speaker 3: version because of Kentucky basketball. By the way, at five

2506
02:12:35,600 --> 02:12:38,080
Speaker 3: point thirty for UK hoops. All right, we'll see you

2507
02:12:38,120 --> 02:12:39,960
Speaker 3: down there for the early happy hour. I think they

2508
02:12:39,960 --> 02:12:43,400
Speaker 3: should bring Trey Hendrickson tonight to the game tonight. Just

2509
02:12:43,520 --> 02:12:46,600
Speaker 3: one final, just one final. Yeah, he's got to.

2510
02:12:46,600 --> 02:12:48,760
Speaker 8: Do one more silly thing. Leak.

2511
02:12:48,840 --> 02:12:52,440
Speaker 4: The text was Zach Taylor on his way out, show

2512
02:12:52,520 --> 02:12:55,160
Speaker 4: the screenshots that he talked about. Also, if you're a

2513
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Speaker 4: bubble watcher, go Muskies tonight as well. Without question, need

2514
02:12:58,360 --> 02:13:01,160
Speaker 4: the Muskies, without question. A lot of good college basketball tonight.

2515
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Speaker 4: Mowagar next, have a great rest of your Tuesday. Thanks

2516
02:13:04,000 --> 02:13:06,560
Speaker 4: for listening and enjoy The Mowagar Show on ESPN fifteen

2517
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