1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Still celebrating a Broncos victory over the Kansas City Chiefs, 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: number one in the AFC, as we head out to 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: the KA Comma Spirit Health Highline and bring on Ian Rappaport, 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: our NFL Network Insider powered by Chevron. Chevron, the human 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: Energy Company committed to our local communities and safely delivering affordable, reliable, 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: ever cleaner energy. 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: Ian. Good afternoon, sir, Thank you so much for the time. 8 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 2: How are you you? 9 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 3: No problem? 10 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 4: What's going on? 11 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 5: Guys? 12 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 6: How are you? 13 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 5: Oh? 14 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: We're fantastic. 15 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: I mean you can imagine how excited we are here 16 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 1: in Denver after winning that game yesterday afternoon. What has 17 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: been sort of the buzz that you've heard off the 18 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:36,319 Speaker 1: Broncos win? 19 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think it's an interesting one. 20 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 3: The whole Broncos season has been interesting because. 21 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 4: You know, I don't know how like aesthetically. 22 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 3: Pleasing it's been, you know, and generally when you have 23 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: teams that have great defenses and the offenses just sort 24 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 3: of make plays when it matters, like sometimes it doesn't, 25 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 3: you know, quote unquote look great, which I think you know, 26 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: is probably why Broncos fans are feeling like maybe people 27 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 3: don't fully appreciate them, but that's okay because the winds 28 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 3: still count. They're still you know, in commanding possession of 29 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 3: first place in the division. They still beat the Chiefs 30 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 3: and I think, you know, are the. 31 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 4: Biggest threat to Kansas, you know, basically taking away Kansas 32 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 4: City stranglehold. 33 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 3: On the ANFCU West. 34 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 4: Really pretty fascinating honestly around the league? 35 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 5: How do people look at the Broncos now at ninety two. 36 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 5: I'm sure a lot of people didn't envision this when 37 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 5: the seasons started. They'd be nine to two at the 38 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 5: at the break for them, and you said, they've been 39 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 5: winning ugly. It hasn't been that pleasant at times, but 40 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 5: they certainly seem to have the clutch gene bow Nicks 41 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 5: in particular, They're going to be a formidile, formidable team 42 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 5: down the stretch. How are people looking at them around 43 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 5: the NFL? 44 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: Oh? 45 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, and I think you know, they do the things 46 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 7: that good teams really need to do in you know, 47 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 7: December and January when it gets really cold, which is 48 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 7: a hit and they run the football. 49 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: You know. 50 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 4: Obviously that took a took a hit when JK. 51 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 3: Dobbins went out for the season. Obviously there's a chance 52 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: it could be back in February, but I think, you know, 53 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 3: out for the season is generally kind of the thought, 54 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 3: and you know, so look, I think they're going to 55 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 3: be around when it matters. 56 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 6: You know. 57 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 3: The interesting thing is, and especially as it relates to 58 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: bo Nicks, is like, you know, there are plenty of 59 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: things you can point to where you can say, well, 60 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: you know, he's he's inconsistent, and like, you know, for instance, 61 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 3: on you know, on the Thursday night game with it one, 62 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: it was sort of like, well, I mean, consistencies only 63 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: really makes plays at the end. But it's sort of 64 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: like that's what it is, and that's what the NFL is, 65 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: and I think that's how then the margin Prairie is. 66 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 4: You know, if you can hang around. 67 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: And make important plays at the end, you can win 68 00:02:55,120 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 3: plenty games until you know, your consistency and your you know, 69 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 3: everything else kind of catches up. So, you know, I 70 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: think the Broncos are good enough. I think the record 71 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 3: is going to put them in a place where they're 72 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 3: gonna have some advantages in the playoffs. They'll have to 73 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: go play and win, but certainly looks like they're going 74 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 3: to be there again. 75 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: You know, how would you characterize the AFC right now? 76 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: It feels relatively wide open, especially as we consider teams 77 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:25,839 Speaker 1: like Baltimore's, the Kansas City Chiefs, I guess, maybe even Cincinnati. 78 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: In that conversation, the Chargers had a tough loss yesterday, 79 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: and even Buffalo is playing for a wild card. It 80 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: seems like we have a lot of new blood there 81 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: at the top of the AFC right now. 82 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that's you know, for those of 83 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 4: us who've been doing this a. 84 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 3: While, like, you know, nothing against Kansas City obviously, but 85 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 3: you sort of, you know, nothing wrong with some new blood. 86 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: Some new faces. 87 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 4: You get into the playoffs and you're learning about people 88 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 4: and you're watching new people, and you know, it's like 89 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 4: the Bills. 90 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: Are great, and my guess is they're going to be 91 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: there right at the end. But this Patriots team is 92 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: pretty fun and pretty fun to watch, you know. I 93 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: think the Ravens are, you know, kind of the team 94 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: that's lurking right now. One last week didn't even play great, 95 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 3: but are you know, back to five hundred and Lamar's healthy, 96 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 3: and you know, they're a team to really really keep 97 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 3: an eye on. The Cults are another one, you know, 98 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 3: Nobody came into the season talking about the Colts, and 99 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 3: I think they've showed that they do it the right way. 100 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: They have some great weapons, they played defense well, and 101 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: they run the heck out of the ball. That's enough, 102 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: you know. But I'm looking forward to seeing some new 103 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 3: teams and learning about some new teams as you get 104 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: deep into the season and the postseason. 105 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 5: Here Ian, regarding the Chiefs five and five, I'm hearing 106 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 5: some people say the end of a dynasty, Patrick Mahomes 107 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 5: not having a great year. They didn't look that great 108 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 5: yesterday against the Broncos. I could see why people would 109 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 5: say that maybe the dynasty's over for this season. But 110 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 5: let's go look a little bit forward after the season. 111 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 5: Do you think they can rebuild that mojo that they 112 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 5: had with this group they have right now? 113 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm not even ready to give up on the 114 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: season though, because as long as they have Patrick Mahomes, 115 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 3: they got a shot. I mean again, like, God forbid, 116 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: they get into the playoffs. Let's say they get into 117 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 3: the playoffs and they're the seventeen Who in the world 118 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: wants to face Who in the world wants to face 119 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes? You know who in the world. So I 120 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 3: think that's you. 121 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 4: Know, I am not ready to give up on the dynasty. 122 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 3: And it's you know, it's like when Joe Burrow said, 123 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 3: and his own said, you know, how long is the Bengals 124 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: playoff window open? He says, as long as I'm playing. 125 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: I would say this is very very same thing for 126 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 3: Kansas City, no doubt, as long as Mahomes is playing, 127 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 3: the window is opening. 128 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: Have you heard anything on Jayden Daniel's potential availability on 129 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: the other side of this buy for Washington? I know 130 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: they lost yesterday. They're on a bit of a losing 131 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: streak right now. Does that impact at all the way 132 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,239 Speaker 1: they would prepare to bring him back? 133 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I just if he's going to get. 134 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: Back out there, you'd sort of like if it was 135 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: all worth it, you know. 136 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 4: Now, he's gonna want to play, just like. 137 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow is gonna want to play. All these guys 138 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: want to play. They are football players and know what 139 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 3: they do. They play football. So he's gonna want to 140 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 3: get out there, and it'll be interesting to see, you know, 141 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 3: kind of what the team does do they you know, 142 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 3: protect him from himself and if he's fully cleared, you know, 143 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 3: shouldn't he be able to say, like, I want to play. 144 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 3: So I think there's some big decisions coming. My general 145 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 3: sense was that, you know, the Broncos game would maybe 146 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: be a game too early, but no one has ruled 147 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 3: it out either, so you know, we'll we'll see, and 148 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 3: I think more information coming later in the week because 149 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: the plan was to evaluate Jayden throughout the buy and 150 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 3: that's kind of where they're at now. 151 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: The last one I have for you, Michael Pennix Junior going. 152 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: On I are kind of another tough injury for him 153 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: over the course of his young career. The Falcons are 154 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: three and seven, and I obviously going to go Kirk Cousins. Now, 155 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: what do you think that this does for maybe their 156 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: future plans at quarterback, assuming that this season continues down 157 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: the trajectory that they missed the playoffs. 158 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: Well, I would say this, like, there's some ACL damage 159 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: for Michael Pennix, and so if he ends up having 160 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: ACL reconstruction is probably right up against the start of 161 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: the year next year, at the very least, they're going 162 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: to have to bring in some protection for him, a 163 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: bridge starter, a really good backup, you know, someone like 164 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins, but hard to imagine it is Kirk counsin 165 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 3: as he decides to take a very very very low deal, 166 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 3: you know, or unless he you know, maybe plays lights 167 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 3: out the next month and everything has to be reconsidered, 168 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: so you know, they'll need sort of a backup plan. 169 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 3: But if you're asking, do I think that they've stopped 170 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: thinking Michael Penicks as a franchise quarterback? I don't. I 171 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: think the people who are there so invested in him, 172 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 3: people who made the pick. I think there's a lot 173 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 3: to like. He's just, you know, a quarterback without a 174 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 3: ton of NFL experience, who you know, unfortunate. It has 175 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 3: done some things, It made some throws, it makes at 176 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 3: various times it makes you think that he's the guy. 177 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: But then at other times they're kind of like, all right, 178 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: is he so still plenty of answers to come in Atlanta? 179 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. Ian alway appreciated me, and 180 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: we'll check in me next week. 181 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 4: Okay, thanks guys, thank you. 182 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: Er I tell you Ian Rockaport, our NFL Network insider, 183 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: we'll get that up a Kwacolorado dot com. 184 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 3: The whole Broncos season has been interesting because you know, 185 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: I don't know how like aesthetically pleasing it's been, you know, 186 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: and generally when you have teams that have great defenses 187 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 3: and the offenses just sort of make plays when it matters, 188 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: like sometimes it doesn't quote unquote look great, which I 189 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: think is probably why Broncos fans are feeling like maybe 190 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: people don't fully appreciate them. But that's okay, because the 191 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 3: winds still count. They're still you know, in commanding possess 192 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 3: a first place in the division. They still beat the 193 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 3: Chiefs and I think, you know, are the biggest threat 194 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 3: to you know, basically taking away Kansas City stranglehold on 195 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 3: the AFC West really pretty fascinating, honestly. 196 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: Or you're like, you know, it's a bit of not 197 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: a parade because you don't say a parade for a 198 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 1: regular season game. 199 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: But it's a big win. 200 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: It's a massive win considering the stakes and considering the vibes. 201 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: We talked about it last week, the vibes coming off 202 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: the Raiders game. How are they going to respond? They 203 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: play up and they played down to their competition. They 204 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: absolutely played up to the Chiefs and they won that game. 205 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: And they won that game in a lot of ways. 206 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: How the Chiefs tend to win games, which is the 207 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: offense gets the ball last and they don't give it 208 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: back to the posing team. Yeah, I mean the vibes 209 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, I said that, But that's that's what 210 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: it was. So here an Ian there and I always 211 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: like getting his sense of what other people around the 212 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: league are saying about the Broncos. 213 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: There's still a. 214 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: Little bit of a tepid, as you said, tepid feel 215 00:09:59,200 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: about this team. 216 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 5: That's why I asked him that question. And I did 217 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 5: feel like he was a little lukewarm on them. Maybe 218 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 5: we believe in him here in Denver and the rest 219 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 5: of the NFL country. Man, they've seen enough bad things 220 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 5: from the Broncos because Broncos have been on national TV 221 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 5: quite a bit. I was driving in this morning and 222 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 5: I listened to the ESPN National Show Drive and then 223 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 5: I couldn't wait to hear how they would lead off 224 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 5: the show at five o'clock in the morning as they 225 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 5: wrap they do their weekend wrap up. Never even mentioned 226 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 5: the Broncos when I was driving in, Like whoa, And 227 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 5: I did take note of that, like maybe to the 228 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 5: rest of the country, not that big of a deal. 229 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 5: Here in Broncos country. This is the biggest win this 230 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 5: team has had in ten years. Significant and you beat 231 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes, yes, and the Chiefs in a game that 232 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 5: really mattered. So I don't know. I guess the rest 233 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 5: of the league is they want to see more. I 234 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 5: think that's what they want to see is more. 235 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: I mean the Broncos with Bone as their quarterback, our 236 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: one blocked field goal away from Nicks, owning Mahomes, beating 237 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: him head to head twice, and beating the Chiefs. 238 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: Three times again. 239 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna cat that last one at the end 240 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: of the last year because they played their backups. But 241 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: the point of it is, is like your one flukey 242 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: blocked field goal, a thirty five yarder by the way 243 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: away from sweeping and beating soundly those teams. So yeah, 244 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: I guess I kind of see it. There's a little 245 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: bit of a show me. Maybe it's because the league 246 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: has become a high level quarterback league. Like everybody that is, 247 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 1: anybody that believes in in whatever team it is, they 248 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: got to have one of those guys like Josh Allen. 249 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: He's had some inconsistent moments this year, but he has 250 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: six touchdown day yesterday because he's that guy. And we 251 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: know Patrick Mahomes can be that guy. Lamar Jackson can 252 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: be that guy. We were just asking you about the 253 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: AFC picture, the playoff picture, and you've got Daniel Jones, 254 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: You've got Drake May, You've got bon Knicks, and I 255 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: guess Aaron Rodgers there at the top for the top four, right. 256 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: I mean though, those are kind of the top four 257 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the standings right now. And Aaron Rodgers is hurt, 258 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: so we'll see what ends up happening there in the 259 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: AFC North. But that's a weird deal, right, And so 260 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: I can see why people are like, I don't know, 261 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: I don't know about the top of the AFC because 262 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: most of the chatter I was listening to is like, hey, 263 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: if the Bills will be in it, they'll be a 264 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: wildcard team the Chiefs if they make it, and nobody's 265 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: gonna want to play the Chiefs. Like that is what 266 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: the discussion today has been, is if the Chiefs can 267 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: make it in, nobody's gonna want to play them. Nobody's 268 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: gonna want to play Lamar, nobody's gonna want to play 269 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Because everybody views it as it's if you 270 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: either have that quarterback or you don't. And until you 271 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: prove you're one of those quarterbacks, they don't believe in you. 272 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, those guys are much more accomplished than they've been 273 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 5: around a whole lot longer. Bon Knicks in the middle 274 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 5: of his second year and growing still, and he will 275 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 5: get better. We said going into this game against the Chiefs, 276 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 5: you're going to see a much better version of bon Nicks. 277 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 5: We both thought of that, all of us, you, me 278 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 5: and Dave last week thought that the Broncos offense would 279 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 5: show up in the game. And they did. And that's 280 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 5: with all the injuries, that's without JK. Dobbins. There's two 281 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 5: things that concern me move it forward. Number One, all 282 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 5: the penalties. Broncos need to clean those up, and they're 283 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 5: still winning despite being the most penalized team in the league. 284 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 5: Number Two is can they run the ball when it 285 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 5: really matters? Yesterday? I keep saying last night because it 286 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 5: was dark when the game ended, But yesterday they they're 287 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 5: just not consistent running the ball, and I don't know 288 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 5: if they can get any better with the running backs 289 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 5: that they have. They have the line. We know that JK. 290 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 5: Dobbins was running the ball very effectively. But with these 291 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 5: three running backs, can they do the job when it 292 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 5: really matters? And I'm talking in the playoffs? That remains 293 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 5: to be seen now, right. 294 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 1: Jake Blumber, Okay, let's talk about the running game when 295 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: we come back. I definitely want to get into that 296 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: a little bit more, because you're right, that is a 297 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: big factor of not only what they they've been doing, 298 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: but what they need to be doing going forward. 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Buick GMC Dealers in KOA. 305 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 6: Cuts it back off left guard and they try to 306 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 6: get a good push and they continue to push and 307 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 6: a third of the goal line and it is a 308 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 6: differ touchdown with the penalty flag throne off sides Kansas City, 309 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 6: that score counts. I'll tell you what, Julia McLoughlin's showing 310 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 6: you some toughness, you know. 311 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 2: I just want to give it everything I got for 312 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 2: my team. Oh whenever my name is Gaul, So I'm grateful. 313 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: For getting an opportunity to play yesterday and he got 314 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: a touchdown, which was great. And that postgame interview with 315 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: Susie is up on our website Kwaclorado dot com with 316 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: ol of our postgame interviews, and we'll hear from Bo 317 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: Nicks with voice the Broncos Dave Logan a little bit 318 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: after five point thirty tonight. But let's talk a little 319 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: bit about the running game, because you said it a 320 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: moment ago, Rick that it obviously wasn't up to the 321 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: standard of what we've seen this season, but I don't 322 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: think anybody expected it to be. 323 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: With JK. Dobbins going on IR and likely out for the. 324 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: Season, though they did open the possibility if the Broncos 325 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: make the Super Bowl, he can be available for that. 326 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: But let's just forno for now. You know, I think 327 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: the Broncos have an argument for that. 328 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: Let's just for now say JK. Dobbins is not available 329 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: for the rest of the season. So where do you 330 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: go from here? 331 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 6: Now? 332 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: You can could go grab somebody right there and andre 333 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: estimate out there or who had been bring up for 334 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: a Bronco that. 335 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: Space's name right now? 336 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, Latavious Murray as another. 337 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 5: Name I heard that. I don't know, man, I'd rather 338 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 5: get somebody off a practice squad. He's not even in 339 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 5: the league anymore. 340 00:15:58,800 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: No, he's retired. 341 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I would look at somebody's practice squad. Jeff Wilson, 342 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 5: the guy played quite a bit of football for the 343 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 5: forty nine ers. I thought he was a decent back 344 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 5: for them. He's a guy that you could go get. 345 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 5: Who's the other one you mentioned, I mentioned Odrick Estimate. 346 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 5: I don't I don't know if he'd be a game changer. 347 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I don't have a game changer, and 348 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: I don't think you're going to find one just. 349 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 5: Hanging around the big because most of these bass. 350 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: A body for some short yardage situations. 351 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 5: Okay, I'd be okay with that. You got nothing to 352 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 5: lose by bringing him back, and he knows the system. 353 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 5: That's actually a pretty solid choice. He's not a guy 354 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 5: who's going to be, you know, your primary ball carrier. 355 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 5: And the question is who is going to be your 356 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 5: primary ball carrier. I thought it was going to be RJ. Harvey, 357 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 5: and he did take most of the snaps running the ball. 358 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 5: He's still just not a proven commodity running the ball. 359 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 5: Yet he shows flashes. He looks like a guy who 360 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 5: could break one at any time, but he gets stopped. 361 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 5: He seems to be making kind of poor decisions as 362 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 5: a running back, like picking the wrong lane at times, 363 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 5: and you know, gets stopped for a yard or two 364 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 5: yard game. It's really too bad. 365 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: JK. 366 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 5: Dobbins went down and when I heard Ian Rappaport talk 367 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 5: about will he could be back in February, I never 368 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 5: even thought about that. That's so far down the road. 369 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 5: I did see Lane Johnson at a list Frank, and 370 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 5: they're saying that he's not gonna have surgery, So I'm 371 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 5: sure they explored that option with Dobbins. Could he get 372 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 5: by not having surgery bring him back in six weeks. 373 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 5: Maybe it's really too bad, man, because they really had 374 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 5: it going and you're gonna need to run the ball 375 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 5: in the playoffs. There's all these games in the playoffs. 376 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 5: They are tight games like we've been playing. So this 377 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 5: team is built to win those kind of games, but 378 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 5: you need to be able to run the ball. Maybe R. J. 379 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 5: Harvey will emerge as a guy you can count on, 380 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 5: at least to a point. I don't think you're any 381 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 5: give him twenty carries a game, maybe give him fifteen 382 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 5: if if he could even run for sixty five yards, 383 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 5: I think would help you out well. 384 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: And I'm I'm inclined to continue to invest there. I 385 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: agree that the returns of yesterday's game, I mean the 386 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: numbers speak to themselves. Eleven carries for thirty yards every 387 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: two point seven, right, it a long of seven right. 388 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 2: JK. 389 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: Dobbins was significantly more productive for the team, and he 390 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: would have been more productive if he was out there yesterday. 391 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: All that being said, I'll start with the positives. Okay, 392 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 1: Julia McLoughlin's got fresh legs. That was very clear, right. 393 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: He had a couple of nice burst moments. It looked 394 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: like he could. He only got eight carries in the 395 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: eight touches I think total rate snaps. Sorry, he got 396 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: six carries, he got six eight total snaps. He had 397 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 1: one catch for negative five yards, which, by the way, 398 00:18:55,359 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: was so obnoxious. The quick whistle on Jilill McLoughlin. Oh yeah, oh, 399 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 1: I was so frustrated by it and watching it back 400 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: today like that, that moment and then the foul against 401 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: Riley Moss. I mean, I'm like one of the other 402 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 1: pi's but the illegal contact that negated John Ay Barns 403 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: pick six. Like those two moments. For me, specifically watching back, 404 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: I was even more angry the second watch. 405 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 5: Very inconsistent in the way they called that game. I 406 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 5: know we have a bias here, we're the hometown broadcast crew, 407 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 5: but I mean, honestly, I can I can say that 408 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 5: this that that was inconsistent. They didn't call it the 409 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 5: same way against the Chiefs. They were letting obvious call 410 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 5: obvious holes when you can see a hole from the 411 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 5: press box and they don't call it, and we saw 412 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 5: at least two of those in that game yesterday. It 413 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 5: does feel like the league the refs have it out 414 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 5: for the Broncos. I don't think they officially do, but 415 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 5: there does seem to be a case where they're trying 416 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 5: to help the Chiefs home this right, I mean, right, Okay, 417 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 5: go ahead and say it, Dave. But it does feel 418 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 5: like when you've got a dynasty like the Chiefs, that 419 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 5: they they're going to give them the benefit of the doubt. 420 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 5: When you have a team like the Broncos that are 421 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 5: really coming on pretty much out of nowhere where nobody 422 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 5: thought they would be they're not going to get the 423 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 5: benefit of the doubt. And that's happening with Riley Moss too. 424 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 5: On some of these PI calls, that's exactly what's happening. 425 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 5: Some are obvious, but some are really really close. I 426 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 5: almost said a bad word. Some are really really close 427 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 5: calls that could go either way. 428 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: So for me, for the running back, the positives are 429 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: Julia McLoughlin looks like his pre fresh legs, So I 430 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: liked Juliel. I think you you could roll him out 431 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: a little bit more. I still think they need a 432 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: bigger back, but I'm continue to invest in RJ. Harvey 433 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: and the biggest reason why is what he was able 434 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: to do in college. And then you heard Sean Payton 435 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: earlier this week say we drafted you to be a runner, 436 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: and he was a very dynamic running back. In fact, 437 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: he was underutilized as a pass catcher at UCF. 438 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: He was great running the ball there. 439 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: The only concern I really had was more of the 440 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: longevity of how many yards he already had right Trent 441 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: on the tires kind of conversation. But we've seen guys 442 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: like Jonathan Taylor come into the league, and that was 443 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: a big discussion about him, and he's been phenomenal, so 444 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: I'm inclined to believe that he still has something there. 445 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: It just needs to continue to be developed, which means 446 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: he needs reps, he needs time, and he needs to 447 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,959 Speaker 1: gain confidence. And you're only going to do that if 448 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: you keep giving him those opportunities. If you start to 449 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: dial it back, then I think you risk some of 450 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: the development that you've already given. 451 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 5: That's an excellent, excellent take, and with the cushion of 452 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 5: the Broncos have now at nine to two, you can 453 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 5: afford to give him a little bit of time. You know, 454 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 5: they have two weeks off here to get ready for 455 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 5: the next game. You get maybe a couple of games 456 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 5: after that where you can maybe get him comfortable and 457 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 5: get him going. I think that's an excellent way to 458 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,959 Speaker 5: look at that. Regarding Jaliel, I'd like Jaliel a lot. 459 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 5: He's made plays in the past. He's the hardest working 460 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 5: guy on the team. Everybody will tell you that, and 461 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 5: you know what, for a little guy, he doesn't mind 462 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 5: busting runs right right up the middle. R. J. Harvey 463 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 5: is a different kind of runner. Even though he's bigger 464 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 5: than Jaliel, he seems to hesitate a lot when they're 465 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 5: trying to run inside with him, like he's not sure 466 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 5: what he should Sometimes he just kind of stuttersteps around 467 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 5: a little bit. Then he makes that every now and 468 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 5: then you'll see him make a really quick cut and 469 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 5: find a little laid and that's what he's really really 470 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 5: good at. But you're right, I think you nailed it. 471 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 5: I don't think he has the confidence yet. He's not 472 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 5: quite sure what to do with the ball when he 473 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 5: gets it. 474 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: This is only the second time this season he's at 475 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,719 Speaker 1: double Diedji carries the second eleven games into the season 476 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: and the only other one he had was in basically 477 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: garbage time against Dallas where they were giving him some 478 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,719 Speaker 1: opportunities to get some extra run. But otherwise he hasn't 479 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: had a lot of time. It has all been single 480 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: digit carried games until yesterday. He hasn't had high leverage. 481 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: You're our guy, and and once again he he was productive. 482 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 6: Right. 483 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: He didn't have a lot of in he tackled, tackled 484 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: for loss. He had a couple of no gainers in there, 485 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: but he was he was constantly looking for it and 486 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: nothing else. 487 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 2: I'll give him. 488 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: This is his development and timing and rhythm with bo 489 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: Nicks in the passing game has really come along nicely. 490 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: There's a couple of moments where Kansas City was bringing 491 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: extra pressure and he turned his head right away. You 492 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: know the sack that bow Nicks took in the red 493 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: zone on the very first drive on the third down, 494 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: the third goal that they were they were there and 495 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: he took a sack from Chris Jones. I believe that 496 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: play was designed for RJ. Harvey. It just so happened 497 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: that they had a good coverage for what the Broncos 498 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: were trying to do. But I believe that was designed 499 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: to go to r J. Harvey just had a coverage 500 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: there in a flat for him. But otherwise, I really 501 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: like the chemistry that they've built there in the passing game, 502 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: in the quick passing game. 503 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 2: So I'm inclined to want to keep him. 504 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: On the field as much as possible because you know 505 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: you have that available and the other side of that 506 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: is you're not tipping your hand. So many times with 507 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: Julen McLoughlin the last couple of years, it felt like 508 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: every time he was in, well he's not in for 509 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: pass pro, he's in to hand the ball off to him. 510 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: So I feel like you got you got a lot 511 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: more with r J. Harvey, and there's a reason why 512 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: you draft him the second round. So even if you 513 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: bring in an Adric Estimate or Latavious Murray or some 514 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: other bigger back because you want to have somebody for 515 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: short yardage, which maybe you just give it to Adam 516 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: Prentiss or the Nate Adkins or somebody like that, I'd 517 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: say I want to continue to invest in RJ. Harvey 518 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: because if he has some kind of second half explosion 519 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: like we're seeing with Travon Henderson, we're seeing with some 520 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: of these other rookie running backs, well then I want 521 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: to be there for it. And I think that this 522 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,479 Speaker 1: team can go to another level if he ends up 523 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: being what they think he can be. 524 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, the potential's all there. You can see it. And 525 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 5: he's had two long runs on the season, one forty 526 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 5: one fifty yard, but outside of those, it's been a 527 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 5: bunch of three yard carries. 528 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: This is the guy, Like check this out at UCF 529 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: right two hundred three to two carries last year, one 530 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: five hundred and seventy seven yards averaging six point eight 531 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: per carry, twenty two rushing touchdowns, year before two hundred 532 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: twenty six carries, one thousand, four hundred and sixteen yards, 533 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,479 Speaker 1: averaging six point three per carry, sixteen rushing touchdowns, thirty 534 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: eight rushing touchdowns over the last two years, and basically 535 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: three thousand rushing yards. And again he was underutilized in 536 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: the passing game, only twenty carry or twenty catches and 537 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: nineteen catches in the previous two years before that. So 538 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: he's got he's got it, like he has that ability. 539 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: It's not like you brought in a change of pace 540 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: back and now you're trying to teach him how to run. 541 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: He knows how to run. You just got to give 542 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: him those chances. 543 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 5: You want to see him throwing the ball anymore after 544 00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 5: what we got yesterday? 545 00:25:59,520 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 2: Please God? 546 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was that was scary. Yeah, that could have 547 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 5: gone really really bad. Yeah, and he was a quarterback 548 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 5: a long time ago. Well, high school. 549 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: We're going to see it. It's gonna happen. Like you know, Sean, 550 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 2: Sean's been setting this thing up. He's freezing. 551 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 5: I wouldn't have him throw the ball across the field. 552 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 5: What I would do with him is pitch it out 553 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 5: to him and then throw it downfield. Not across the 554 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 5: field or. 555 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 6: A lot of them. 556 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: A wildcat, you know, like, hey, have him take the 557 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: direct work as well. Have him take the direct snap 558 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: and then make him look like he's getting ready to 559 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: run it and then he can throw. 560 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, that play, I don't think anybody wants to see that. Again. 561 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 2: Good heads up by both though. 562 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 5: As far as a big running back at the goal line, 563 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 5: how about this. They may have a secret weapon on 564 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 5: the team already. 565 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: Andre Tillman, Wow, think about that going outside the box here. 566 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: I like it. 567 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 5: Yes, he's got two interceptions, both of them long returns 568 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 5: where he look very comfortable with the ball in his hands. 569 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 5: It was shocking to watch. He was running over people, 570 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 5: he was making cuts, he was he was switching the 571 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 5: ball into the right hand depending on which direction he 572 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 5: was going. Looked like this guy's played running back before 573 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 5: and he's a big dude. I would think after seeing that, 574 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 5: Sean Payton's got to be trying to scheme up some 575 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 5: goal line plays with him. Now. Obviously, when you put 576 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 5: him in the game, everybody knows what's going to happen, 577 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 5: but they still might now be able to stop it. 578 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 5: Just like the Toushbush. They know you're going to do 579 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 5: the toushbush. They can't stop it. This guy. He could 580 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 5: be the new refrigerator, Perry. 581 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: I like where your head's at. 582 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: But I think I would probably lean him more as 583 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:47,479 Speaker 1: a as a fullback, first as a lead blocker and 584 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: then either. 585 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 8: One yeah it to him sometimes right, And then they're 586 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 8: setting up the possibility that he could ever be like 587 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 8: short yardage slash goal line kind of thing where you 588 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 8: hand him the ball instead of handing it to the 589 00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 8: running back. 590 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 2: I could be into that. 591 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he certainly seems very excited about He leads 592 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: the team in interceptions, so that is something that I mean, 593 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: I don't know, he's fun. 594 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: He's it's a fun group, right. 595 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: And you and I've been talking about this now for 596 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: quite some time, and I saw Will Lutts tweeting about 597 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: this that you know he loves this team. 598 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 2: Wanted let me see what he said. He was talking 599 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 2: about our guy. 600 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: Ryan Coenigsberg pointed out that Sean Payton has already celebrating 601 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: that Will LUTs was going to make the field goal 602 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: before he actually made it. And then uh, he said, 603 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: they looked right at Will Lutson and already put up 604 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: his hands like Hey, you already made it kind of thing, 605 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: and Will will Lett said, yeah, right at me, and 606 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: I did it right back. 607 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: Love everything about this team nice. 608 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: There is something about the vibe, right and I don't 609 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: deplay the drop, but there is something about that group 610 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: that is really bought in, don't Yeah, I mean the vibes. God, 611 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: that is bought into the vision of what they are. 612 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: And then that's the reason why I've had so many 613 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: fourth quarter comebacks and why Bo Nicks specifically over the 614 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: last two years has more comebacks than any quarterback over 615 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: a two year span in the history of the game. 616 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 5: It's pretty amazing. Yeah, what that stat alone. Think about that, 617 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 5: that's incredible in the history of the national football lege 618 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 5: career the two years. Yep, Yeah, that's quite the stat. 619 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 5: Bo Nicks is clutch and he has been since day one. 620 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 5: He's been that guy, and that's that's a special attribute 621 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 5: to have as an athlete. Not everybody has that, And 622 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 5: I don't know if that's something you're born with. When 623 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 5: I look at bow Knicks, I look at him as 624 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 5: he was the son of a coach, right. His dad 625 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 5: coached him up from the time he was a little 626 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 5: boy all the way through his high school and college years, 627 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 5: and I think that's part of it. Bo just gets it. 628 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 5: He just knows the game. And BO is at its 629 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 5: best when the chips are down and when you need 630 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 5: to make a play. And there's just some people like that. 631 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 5: Their blood pressure goes down, it doesn't go up. They 632 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 5: relax when they're in that position. Man, it's great to 633 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 5: have that guy as your quarterback. John Elway was the same. 634 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 5: John Elway would play some pretty bad football for three quarters, 635 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 5: three and a half quarters in a close game. You know, 636 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 5: John Elway's gonna win it for you. Bon Nicks has 637 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 5: become that guy. 638 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 4: I think that's the beauty of the game. 639 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 5: The beauty of. 640 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 2: The game is the beauty of the game. 641 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 5: That's right. 642 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: Well, and I don't know if we don't. I think 643 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: there's too many expletives. But Adam Troutman was going off 644 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: in the locker room last night about some of the 645 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: hate that Bonnicks is getting, so they have his back 646 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: and that that has been certainly an important part of 647 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: this process because he's come under a lot of fire 648 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: and some of it deserve it, right, And part of 649 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: that is because Sean Payton built him up to what 650 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: should be maybe a very lofty level, and simultaneously people 651 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: are I think sometimes for the other shoot to drop 652 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: on some of these guys. 653 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: I'll say this, when it comes to like. 654 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: The development of the offense and the realization of what 655 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: they are and what they could be, you certainly hope 656 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: they do eventually become that team, right, Like you see 657 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: the flashes of it and you say, well, if they 658 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: just put this together, he's one of the best fourth 659 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: quarter comebacks in the league right now. But because he's 660 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: not doing all of that stuff all the time, he 661 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: doesn't get to be in the conversation of MVP caliber 662 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: core quarterbacks as they put it that graphic every single 663 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: day of like these are the guys, the betting favorites, 664 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: and it's like you're leading the AFC and you're not 665 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: even in the conversation. Well, you know why, because you 666 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: only do it in one quarter. You need to do 667 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: it more consistently, and you need to do it pretty 668 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: much every single day, every single day. But I'll take 669 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: where they're at now, knowing that they haven't played their 670 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: best football yet, that they are still hungry and pushing 671 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: for their best football, and that keeps them grounded, you know, 672 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: you were talking about it a little bit earlier about 673 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: you know, you didn't maybe I was actually talking about 674 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: with the temper. But it's just like this, like they're 675 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: not getting buttered up by anybody. Even we had ian 676 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: rapport order. He's not buttering up the Broncos. He's like, yeah, 677 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: it's they're an interesting team. You know, they're nine and two, 678 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: but they're kind of an interesting team. That's that's the mindset. 679 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm great with it. I am more than 680 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: great with it because keep doubting, keep telling these guys 681 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: that they're not playing good enough. 682 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 2: Because it's working. 683 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 5: I'd like you, man, I'd rather be under the radar 684 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 5: and then exceed expectations, then beyond the radar. I didn't 685 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 5: really care for Sean Payton saying that preseason. I thought 686 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 5: it put a target on their back. I'm sure he 687 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 5: said it now looking back at nine to two. He 688 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 5: said it that let the team know, hey, man, be 689 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 5: confident because you guys have super Bowl caliber talent. I okay, 690 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 5: now I get that, but yeah, I'm the same. I 691 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 5: want to be under the radar and let's keep it 692 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 5: that way. Let's keep it that way down the stretch 693 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 5: and when you think they're nine and two and they 694 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 5: haven't played their best football yet and that's to come. 695 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,959 Speaker 5: Their best best football is ahead of them. And another 696 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 5: thing Sean Payton says that I love. He said, we're 697 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 5: going to play in bigger games. And he's been saying 698 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 5: that all along. And when you talk like that, man, 699 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 5: these young guys, man, they're heavily influenced by that type 700 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 5: of talk, and they're they're bought in and they're believing. 701 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 5: They're believing nice if you want to put it that way. 702 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 5: And Bo's going to get better. I'm confident Bo will 703 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 5: continue to get better. He's that kind of guy. He's 704 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 5: a hard working dude and he takes it very seriously. 705 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 5: And there's been some quarterbacks in the league that were 706 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 5: first round draft picks that didn't I won't name any names. 707 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 5: They just thought they could show up. But he's not 708 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 5: that guy. He's going to get better. The only concern, 709 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 5: once again, the running running back situation. Can you run 710 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 5: the ball when it really matters? We didn't see that yesterday. 711 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: On the text line, I six six nine zero. You're 712 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: reading my mind about Tillman. I was just going to 713 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: text it, but I was driving I just feel like 714 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: you continue to develop the guys you have if you 715 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: want to get clever or cute. I mean, I guess 716 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 1: there's an argument for it. I like the short yardage idea. 717 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: I like him more as a lead blocker than necessarily 718 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: handling the ball. 719 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 5: You can do both. 720 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 2: We'll see. Well let's see here. 721 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: Well, then you're also doing this half back pass in 722 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: the red zone. You almost took away at least three 723 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: points and had a ten point swing. No that I 724 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: mean that was I mean it just sort of hung 725 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: up there. Good for both to play defense. I've been 726 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: waiting to see Harvey toss a half back pass. I 727 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 1: hope I have to wait a long time to see 728 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 1: it again. 729 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I think Cortland Sutton is a better passer 730 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 5: than him, based on what I saw from that throw yesterday. 731 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 5: Cort can throw the ball all right, and he has 732 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 5: he's got a touchdown pass, and Harvey could do that. 733 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 5: That just wasn't the play to try that across the field. 734 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 5: Too many trick plays. Now, this is two games in 735 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 5: a row where they've called up trick plays in really 736 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 5: clutch situations that didn't work, especially. 737 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 2: When you're already moving the ball right. 738 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: I think one of them was like a second and 739 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: one or third and one, and you're calling and that 740 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: was the double pass. Right, You're like third and one. 741 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: You've been running the ball, you've been gaining yardage, and 742 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: then you're like third and one, let's go ahead and 743 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 1: throw it deep, and you're just like okay. 744 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 2: And then and then. 745 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: Cortland got sacked in the process. Right, his double pass 746 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: with Courtland sudden, and then he got sacked and lost 747 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: five yards and now you're at a field goal range. 748 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 5: Yeah what Yeah, that's two games in a row that 749 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,959 Speaker 5: I don't think we'll see that R J. Harvey play 750 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 5: again this year. I really don't. 751 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 2: I don't think it's either. 752 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: All right, marbit tacks five six, six nine zero. We're 753 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: gonna hear with from bot Nix coming up here in 754 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:46,399 Speaker 1: just a minute.