WEBVTT - 1-8-26 Wes Miller Show 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:03.680 This is the West Miller Radio Show, live from the 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:07.400 original montgomery In, brought to you in part by Skyline 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:11.760 Chilly feeling good. It's Skyline time and the original montgomery 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:14.800 In and the montgomery In at the Boathouse, home of 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:19.440 the world's Greatest Ribs. Now, here's Dan Horde, Terry Nelson 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:22.720 and You See's head coach Wes Miller on the Home 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:26.000 of the Bearcats seven hundred WLW. 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:35.800 It is showtime, A very pleasant, good evening, everybody, Greetings 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:38.760 from the original montgomery In, home of the world's Greatest Ribs. 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:41.120 Welcome to the West Miller Radio Show. I'm Dan Horde 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:44.360 of former Bearcats stand out Terry Nelson, and the star 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:47.120 of the show, the head coach of your You See Bearcats. 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:54.160 Let's hear it for Wes Miller. We have an awesome 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:57.600 crowd here at the original montgomery In tonight. We greatly 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:02.680 appreciate it. I know coach does too. After two really tough, 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:06.039 heartbreaking losses where you were in position to win and 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:07.839 just weren't able to pull it out in the final 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:11.600 three or four minutes of those games. Players are resilient. 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.679 High level athletes have to be tell us about kind 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.640 of the emotional tenor of the team right now. 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:22.520 Well, first, guys, i'd like to apologize for the way 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:24.200 I came out of the locker room the other night, 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:27.639 apologize that you obviously talked to you guys off. 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:29.640 Air yesterday, but I want to say it on air. 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:34.160 None of my emotions or anger or frustration was directed 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:37.559 at you. None of it was directed at any body 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:38.720 of people in particular. 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:41.600 You guys are the best. You guys know how I feel. 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:43.680 I don't think you' all took it that way. 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:47.240 We did not for the record, and it's completely unnecessary, 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:48.320 but I appreciate the thought. 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:51.880 No, it needs to be said, and then listen, there's 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:55.120 a lot of there's so many awesome people. I love 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:58.880 our fan base that there's standards here, there's expectations. 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:00.480 When we don't meet. 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:05.000 Those, it's extremely frustrating. I pride myself on being professional, 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:07.440 handling it the right way when you're supposed to when 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:09.720 you lead a program like this. At that moment, I did, 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:11.600 and then for that, I'm sorry. But now it's time 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:13.560 to move on and let's let's reach those standards. 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:15.440 One of the things I love about it is you 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:18.680 always come to face the music. H winter loss. You all, 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:21.600 you don't send an assistant. You come now conferences. Conference 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.800 term is different because you have media obligations, so you'll 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.200 send one of that, but you always come out. My 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:30.160 question is do you think you should take a. 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:31.080 Moment to gather yourself? 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:34.519 Because when I went and interviewed you down after the 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:38.600 Clemson game, I believe it was I said take a moment. 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:43.119 Yeah, no, absolutely, yeah, And again I needed. 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:45.200 Because you're so invested in the game. 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:50.080 Well, I think I think people appreciate this the because 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:52.320 people care a lot, which is what makes this place 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:55.480 so special, this program special. But I care as much 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.359 as you could care about our program winning the basketball game. 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:02.320 So when we lose the way that we did Saturday, 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:03.960 or the way that we did at West Virginia, where 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:05.360 you feel like you have the game in hand and 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:09.440 have control of the game, you know, the emotions and 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.880 the heartbreak and that what you feel for the players 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.919 in the locker room. You know, that's real raw emotion, 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:16.280 and yeah, you got to take a step back and 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:18.880 take a breath, and then you know you can do 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:19.639 what you have to do. 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:21.960 But I was very frustrated. I was very hurt for 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:23.079 our players. 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:27.880 And just trying to figure out solutions for them, you know, 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.160 to make sure that we're moving forward the right way together. 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:34.560 So driving back from Morgantown yesterday, I had this thought 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:39.240 about end of games. Anybody can play good defense for 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.760 four minutes. It's hard to play great defense for forty 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:44.800 but anybody can play good defense for four minutes. And 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:48.720 now we're talking about the Big Twelve with incredible athletes, 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:52.080 So it's really hard to get easy shots in the 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.760 last four minutes of a tight game. West Virginia didn't 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.760 get any, but they made two tough threes, including one 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:01.480 that was borderlined impossible that they put into the kid's credit. 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:05.200 How would you describe that challenge of trying to run 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:08.400 offense and get the best shot you can get in 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.160 the last few minutes of a tight Big Twelve game. 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:12.800 Well, I think you said it. 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.320 You're gonna try to generate an easy basket or the 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.000 easiest possible basket you. 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.360 Can, but you want to get a shot. 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:23.599 And I think there's this balance of making sure that 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:25.880 you're doing everything you can to execute to get a 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:27.640 great shot, to get the ball in the right spot, 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:29.560 but you don't want to turn it over. And I 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.159 think some of the things you've seen in the last 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.360 four minutes, we failed to even get the ball to 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:37.120 the rim on possessions. That's extremely frustrating because if you 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:38.680 get a shot, you still got a chance to go 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:40.479 rebound the dang thing late in the game. 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.320 So you're trying to get a shot. But you said it. 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:45.440 You know, we. 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:50.560 Lost two games here in the last four minutes. Houston 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:52.720 got the layup in transition and that they got to 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:54.960 put back on the dunk on the offensive rebound. 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:56.279 But it wasn't like they were. 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:58.839 Just coming down running a play and getting a great shot. 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:01.200 They were having to really work and made a big 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.520 isolation play late in the game to shoot it over 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:06.920 the top. I mean, in our league, you're gonna run 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.479 good action, it's probably gonna be defended in a close game, 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:11.200 and then you have to be able to go make 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:11.960 the next play. 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:13.680 We worked at that. 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:15.920 We worked at that going into the West Virginia game, 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:17.919 and then we worked at that again today in practice. 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:21.560 One of my partners sent me something where he did 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.920 the percentages of shots from three that you guys take 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.520 when it's guard to guard and the percentages when it 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:31.640 touches the post or there's a paint touch and the 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:35.400 and the percentage is almost double when the ball is 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.560 touched in the paint, whether it's a post player or 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:41.000 guards penetrating and kicking out and getting feet set in 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:41.479 the whole. 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:42.000 Nine over there. 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:44.920 And I know you talk about this paint touches. 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:45.560 And all the other things. 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:47.080 Is that something that's. 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:51.240 Discussed in your in your circles as you are preparing 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.080 that we have to touch the paint to be better shooters. 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.080 Yeah, we talk about inside out shots, you know, and 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:59.440 we do chart paint touches. We don't share the paint 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:01.479 touch number with the players during the game, but we 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.359 do have them. But we talk about inside out shots. 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:07.240 And you're right, I mean, think about it. Every kid 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:07.840 growing up. 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:08.839 What the ball? 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:11.960 You know, it got passed to you from somebody rebounded 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:14.559 it and passed it out right, you're stepping into the shot, 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.120 you're in rhythm, you're square to the rims. 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:19.480 Like managers, it's rebounding and passing it back to what 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:21.920 you're saying about us is not exclusive to us. 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:24.560 That's basketball, right, When the ball comes inside out, it's 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:28.279 a higher percentage shot. There's exceptions to that because there's 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:31.520 there's guys like Dayda Thomas, that it's hard for them 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:33.720 to even get a look because the way they're being defended. 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:36.200 And if they can get one on a swing or 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.760 a pitch ahead, yeah, that's a great shot. 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.279 For a guy like Dada and some others. 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:42.960 But some guys need to just take the inside out 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.800 ones and that's something we've been talking about showing film 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:48.120 and holding accountable for In practice. 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.919 Tyler McKinley came back the other night, first time he 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.160 had played in five games. I thought he played well. 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.800 He scored a career high six points, but he only 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:59.080 played nine something minutes. Was that about all he was 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.360 ready for. He hasn't really practiced much either over the 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:02.239 last few weeks. 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.160 His first day of practice since our Georgia game the 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:08.400 day before our Georgia game was the day before the 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:11.640 West Virginia game. So he went through that practice, not 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:15.240 even every aspect of it, but for the most of it, 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:17.640 and then we kind of didn't know how it would go, 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:18.840 but he felt really good. 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.160 I thought our our medical staff did a. 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:25.200 Really nice job over from the Georgia game on of 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:27.080 not just getting him to where maybe he could practice 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:28.840 or play, but trying to get him back to being 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:33.400 confident and feeling healthier about his knee. And so you know, 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.800 he practiced again today and he looks good. He's he's 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.000 obviously tremendously important to our team. 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:40.240 Gisel James back in the starting lineup. 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:44.040 He came out with a great first game, but his 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:47.120 last two games, his shots have been He was one 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.080 of seven in the Houston game, three of thirteen. The 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.640 floor game has been good, but he is You're starting 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:53.320 to see some I don't know if it's fatigue or 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.960 just not having his legs under him yet, but the 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:57.040 percentages are not there. 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:01.200 You know, he has a small sample size right now, 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.240 so I think let's just give it some time. 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:06.400 He's he settles us down. 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:09.200 We're a different offensive team with him back in the fold. 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.160 A big picture of the numbers are saying that in 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.040 our analytical stuff, we feel it, the players feel it. 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:18.560 I know he'd like to have some of those opportunities 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:20.560 back in the game, especially that pitch ahead turnover. 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.720 We got a five point lead and we you know, we. 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:25.920 Get the rebound and you know we got a chance 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:27.880 to have a great offensive possession at three fifteen. 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:29.440 I know that when he'd love to have back some 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:30.080 of those looks. 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:34.720 But listen, Gisel James Is being back is very good 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:37.240 for Cincinnati basketball. It's been very good for our team 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:38.760 and it'll really help us moving forward. 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:41.680 Seannabiev was one for five in the game. He made 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.679 one three, but I thought his shots were good. They 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.640 were not from several steps behind the line. They were 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:49.600 on the line, they were in rhythm. I feel like 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.560 if those are the shots he takes going forward, he's 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.560 going to make a bunch. Did you like the shots 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:56.560 that he took in that game? 0:08:56.679 --> 0:09:00.599 Sure, he needs to play confidently. We need him to 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:01.160 shoot the ball. 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:04.640 You Terry talked about or maybe you did Dan, In 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:06.600 the last four minutes of games, people are gonna be 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.440 guarded and there's gonna be chances where guys have to 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:11.240 go make a tough shot and make a play. Shawn's 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.880 a guy that can go do that. We're gonna need that. 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:17.120 Knowing the time to do it is important. But he's 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:19.400 got We got a lot of big basketball ahead of us, 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.520 and Shawn's gonna really break out. 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:22.400 I really believe that. 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:26.480 I'm a power forward that played with the land of 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.640 power forwards back in the nineties when power forwards had 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:32.520 value or big man had value. But Nick never threw 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:34.680 me the ball. If I never wanted the ball, you know, 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:36.319 he would look at me and if I didn't call 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:38.160 for the ball with my hands, if I didn't say Nick, 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:39.800 you know, I didn't call his name, if I didn't 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:42.520 have my hands look excited, he would look at me 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.120 and wave and I would, you know, go sitting on 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.720 the ball screen and get out the way. But he 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:50.040 would say. Hugs said, you know who shoots the ball 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:52.400 the most? White, Nick shoots the ball the most. And 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:54.280 then Corey said, because he's a ball hog, and he 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:57.560 goes no, because he calls for the ball the most. 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:01.280 I say that because I don't see Mustafa Child calling 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.320 for the ball when you guys need a basket down low. 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.319 And he's so good, his touch is so good, and 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:10.920 it seems to me he allows defenders to easily front 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:13.840 him and to negate him from a play without him 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:16.880 trying to establish himself and get the ball. It's important 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:18.600 for him to catch the ball for everything that the 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:22.720 offense runs around, post paint, paint, touches, his turnaround jump shot, 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:24.040 how the offense runs. 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:26.240 If he catches the ball on the block, it's a 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:26.760 different team. 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:32.119 You know, I'm I'm I'm probably the hardest on Mustafa 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.160 every day, you know, because I just think there's so 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:36.880 much ahead of him. I think there's so much more 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.679 room for growth, and he's still so young. He is 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:42.960 in that in basketball, he's a baby still, you know. 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:49.760 And I say that there's a compliment. Listen, the last 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:52.079 let's go back to the second half against Houston, he 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:52.679 was terrific. 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.320 He was that game was great. He didn't call for 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.280 the first second end of the game against Clemson. He's terrific. 0:10:58.880 --> 0:10:59.760 In the Houston game. 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:02.160 An the West Virginia game, he's getting doubled in the post, 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:04.959 and I think that's the next step. Right, he's starting 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:07.959 to have success scoring back to the basket, and he's 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:11.079 found his touch and we're allowing him now to shoot 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:13.000 the jumper and the turnaround that I think has just 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.440 helped his confidence. But the next step is then embracing 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:19.520 that double team, you know, because that might mean you 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:21.680 don't score down there, Terry, but it might mean you 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:22.880 create offense for our team. 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:24.600 All the double in the bat. 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:27.400 Yeah, And I think he got doubled twice and the 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:29.040 last game wins a turnover one. 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:32.559 He hits Gisel for in the first half, so I. 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:34.600 Think we'll continue to build on that. But when they 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:36.760 start doubling you, that's that's a good sign. That means 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:38.880 people are worried about you. And then, as you said, 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:41.160 and this has been the emphasis with him since the 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.679 day he got the campus, when you catch it in 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:45.880 the post box and you catch it at three or 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.320 four feet, you can't be doubled because you're gonna shoot 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.040 it before the double team gets there. And that part 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.640 of his game he shows flashes of it. But when 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:56.520 that becomes consistent, it's all over. Right, it's all over. 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:59.800 He's going to be just completely dominant. So it's coming. 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:05.760 But the effort and the approach every day is what 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.520 it should be. There's not a day I come out 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:10.880 of the gym and I'm frustrated with new working at it. 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:13.080 And when you're that young and that gifted and you 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.800 work at it like that is a coach, you're fine 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:19.520 because you know what's coming. And I've seen improvement even 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:20.600 here in the first part of the year. 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:22.560 All Right, we're gonna take our first time out. We 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:24.680 are alive with the original Montgomery in Home of the 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:27.880 World's Greatest Ribs it's the West Miller Radio Show. Got 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:30.280 a bunch of stuff to give away at the end 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:32.360 of the show. We appreciate the bear Cat fans who 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:46.600 are here on seven hundred WLW. We are back at 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.319 the original Montgomery In home of the world's greatest Ribs 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:52.640 and the West Miller Radio Show. Appreciate our engineer Joe Strucker, 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.880 appreciate Joe Idel back in the studio, and really appreciate 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.360 the Bearcat fans who are with us here tonight. We've 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:00.880 got a bunch of stuff to give away. At the 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:04.240 end of the show. We were talking about Mustafa chob 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:07.280 prior to the commercial break. He will be going back 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:11.240 to where he played last year on Sunday Cincinnati taking 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:15.440 on UCF in Orlando. I would imagine he's probably not 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:18.880 going to get the kindest greeting after transferring to a 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:22.040 school within the conference. Do you even say anything to 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.800 him about something like that, just prepare him for what 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:25.559 he might face. 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:30.079 Yeah, I think previously, you know, maybe a couple of 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:33.160 years ago, stuff like that, I wouldn't say much to 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:36.240 any of these guys. But I think after you know, 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:39.720 last year's conference season, seeing how you know, things affected 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:44.160 our guys been way more proactive this year about, you know, 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:46.160 trying to to just talk. 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.640 About things with them because they're young people. 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:51.920 And I think the thing that we have to remember 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:55.959 about this generation is different than mine, different than Terry's, is. 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:00.559 They don't just hear it in person, that hear it on. 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.360 Their phones, you know, And I think that's a different 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:07.520 that's an entirely different dynamic and paradigm, and so trying 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:09.680 to find solutions for that, I think is very important. 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:13.000 That's not just at Cincinnati, that's at any elite program 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:15.280 or in any professional sports leader. 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.280 Kishan Tiller got nine minutes in the previous game, and 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.680 he was I thought his minness were really good. He 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:23.680 came in and steady. You played a lineup I haven't 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:25.560 seen before. You had three point guards on the floor 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:28.080 with Daddy Thomas, Gisel James and Kishaan. 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:30.280 Is that something that you'll see more going forward. 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:34.080 I think it's just Terry about putting the most competitive 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.800 guys that we can out there that are gonna play like, 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:40.120 regardless of size, play bearcat basketball and play with some 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:44.200 edge and toughness. And I've loved Keishawn's attitude and approach 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.880 since we came back from Christmas, It's been what you. 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:48.360 Want it to be. 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:51.440 And you know, with Kerr going down with the shoulder, 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:54.640 there's some opportunity there. I thought he made that made 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:58.239 the most of that opportunity. In Morganton, Kerr. 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.480 Tried to come back and play in the huge game 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:03.600 after separating his shoulder in the first half. Gave it 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:05.920 a you know, gave it the college try, played a 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:07.960 few minutes and then absolutely had to come out and 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.320 did get a three before he would he's crazy and 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:13.440 that had to sit out the West Virginia game. How 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:14.800 do things look for him going forward? 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:17.640 You know, I hope sooner rather than later. Dan that 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:18.200 that hurt, you know. 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:21.160 I think the lineup of you talk about lineups, did 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:25.640 lineup of dayDay Kerr and Gisel analytically was like our 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:29.640 best offensive lineup that we've we've played in years, you know, 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:31.720 in a very short burst. But we were feeling that 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:35.200 in practice too. We're really excited about the moments that 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:39.200 we had those guys together. So I can't wait to 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.760 get back to that. But hopefully he'll be back soon. 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:43.640 But as I told you guys, I think the last 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:45.680 time we were up here when it comes to the 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:46.320 doctor stuff. 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:47.640 I'm the last guy to talk to. 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:51.840 I know he wants he was He's so emotional, you know, 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:53.880 in the Houston game when he couldn't play. He was 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:57.640 emotional at halftime, emotional after the game. And you can 0:15:57.680 --> 0:15:59.560 tell it's just not quite himself because he wants to 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:00.200 be out there. 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:02.680 Watching Jalen Celestine. 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.240 Every time he checks in the game, he's gotta it 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:09.640 takes him like thirty seconds to unwrap stuff, and he's 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:11.800 pulling stuff off, and he's got a heating pad on 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.000 his back and he keeps leaving it in front of 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:15.320 Dan and I and the managers. 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:16.800 I'm looking like, are you guys gonna. 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:17.200 Come get this stuff? 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:19.600 Every time he comes out, he's like he's in a 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:21.920 geriatric unit or something walking out, you know, there's some 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.000 old man walking out. Then he comes in there and 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:26.560 he's knocking down three after three. He's five to nine 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.760 from three, and it's like, man, this dude is when 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:32.960 we talk about him being a late shot clock maker 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:36.080 and you didn't, like you kind of like surprised, and 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.240 I'm like no. Then he comes right out and hits 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:40.240 the late of the end of the shot clock shot 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:42.200 and I'm like this guy just has a different level 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:45.680 of focus at the end of clock situations. 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:49.120 Are you noticing that? What I notice? All the crap 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:49.760 that he has all? 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:54.400 And then you know, this is this has been a 0:16:55.200 --> 0:17:00.160 strange thing, but I've never had this occur. We'll be 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.720 in the time out and we're sitting there, right he's 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:04.080 in the game, so he's sitting in one of the 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:06.760 five chairs. He'll just stand up because you know, he's 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:08.600 trying to keep his back from stiffing it up. 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:10.520 And I'm sometimes I'm. 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:12.200 Like, what the hell's he standing up for? Like we're 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:16.239 only twenty seconds into this time out, but he's you know, 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:20.680 he's I'll give him credit. The back surgery was serious 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:25.440 this summer. You know, he basically didn't practice or he 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:27.280 didn't do anything for three months or so, and then 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:30.920 he was completely limited in practice. And you know, he's 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.480 trying to do everything he can to get himself ready 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:35.560 to play every night, and he's getting better and better 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:37.399 and getting more up to speed what we're doing. 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:39.760 But you know, there's one point. 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:42.520 I thought, we we put together this team with all 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:46.320 this experience, right, all these older guys and experience, and 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:48.679 we put the team together, and then we looked up 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:51.600 in a game right after a Thanksgiving week and there's 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:55.000 like Key Shawn and Tyler McKinley and Sean and. 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:56.000 Somebody else on the court. 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:58.360 I'm like, there's like four In Moustapa there was there 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:00.679 was three freshmen and the sophomore out there in a lineup, 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:02.720 and I'm going, you know, And then the other side 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:04.680 of it is, you know, the old guys are coming 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:06.800 out with all their contraptions and stuff now. 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:10.320 But you know, but I think, yes, we like the 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.120 mix of it. But getting the ability. 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:15.640 To have the oldest, most experienced guys on the court 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:17.119 is important thing in the Big twelve. 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.919