1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: This is the West Miller Radio Show, live from the 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: original montgomery In, brought to you in part by Skyline 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: Chilly feeling good. It's Skyline time and the original montgomery 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: In and the montgomery In at the Boathouse, home of 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: the world's Greatest Ribs. Now, here's Dan Horde, Terry Nelson 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: and You See's head coach Wes Miller on the Home 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: of the Bearcats seven hundred WLW. 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: It is showtime, A very pleasant, good evening, everybody, Greetings 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: from the original montgomery In, home of the world's Greatest Ribs. 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: Welcome to the West Miller Radio Show. I'm Dan Horde 11 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: of former Bearcats stand out Terry Nelson, and the star 12 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: of the show, the head coach of your You See Bearcats. 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: Let's hear it for Wes Miller. We have an awesome 14 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: crowd here at the original montgomery In tonight. We greatly 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: appreciate it. I know coach does too. After two really tough, 16 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 2: heartbreaking losses where you were in position to win and 17 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 2: just weren't able to pull it out in the final 18 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: three or four minutes of those games. Players are resilient. 19 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: High level athletes have to be tell us about kind 20 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 2: of the emotional tenor of the team right now. 21 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: Well, first, guys, i'd like to apologize for the way 22 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 3: I came out of the locker room the other night, 23 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,639 Speaker 3: apologize that you obviously talked to you guys off. 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 4: Air yesterday, but I want to say it on air. 25 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 3: None of my emotions or anger or frustration was directed 26 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 3: at you. None of it was directed at any body 27 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: of people in particular. 28 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 4: You guys are the best. You guys know how I feel. 29 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 4: I don't think you' all took it that way. 30 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: We did not for the record, and it's completely unnecessary, 31 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: but I appreciate the thought. 32 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: No, it needs to be said, and then listen, there's 33 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 3: a lot of there's so many awesome people. I love 34 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: our fan base that there's standards here, there's expectations. 35 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 4: When we don't meet. 36 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: Those, it's extremely frustrating. I pride myself on being professional, 37 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 3: handling it the right way when you're supposed to when 38 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 3: you lead a program like this. At that moment, I did, 39 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 3: and then for that, I'm sorry. But now it's time 40 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 3: to move on and let's let's reach those standards. 41 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 5: One of the things I love about it is you 42 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 5: always come to face the music. H winter loss. You all, 43 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 5: you don't send an assistant. You come now conferences. Conference 44 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 5: term is different because you have media obligations, so you'll 45 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 5: send one of that, but you always come out. My 46 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 5: question is do you think you should take a. 47 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 4: Moment to gather yourself? 48 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 5: Because when I went and interviewed you down after the 49 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 5: Clemson game, I believe it was I said take a moment. 50 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, absolutely, yeah, And again I needed. 51 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 5: Because you're so invested in the game. 52 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 3: Well, I think I think people appreciate this the because 53 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: people care a lot, which is what makes this place 54 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 3: so special, this program special. But I care as much 55 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 3: as you could care about our program winning the basketball game. 56 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: So when we lose the way that we did Saturday, 57 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 3: or the way that we did at West Virginia, where 58 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 3: you feel like you have the game in hand and 59 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: have control of the game, you know, the emotions and 60 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: the heartbreak and that what you feel for the players 61 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 3: in the locker room. You know, that's real raw emotion, 62 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: and yeah, you got to take a step back and 63 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: take a breath, and then you know you can do 64 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 3: what you have to do. 65 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 4: But I was very frustrated. I was very hurt for 66 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 4: our players. 67 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 3: And just trying to figure out solutions for them, you know, 68 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: to make sure that we're moving forward the right way together. 69 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: So driving back from Morgantown yesterday, I had this thought 70 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: about end of games. Anybody can play good defense for 71 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: four minutes. It's hard to play great defense for forty 72 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: but anybody can play good defense for four minutes. And 73 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: now we're talking about the Big Twelve with incredible athletes, 74 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: So it's really hard to get easy shots in the 75 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: last four minutes of a tight game. West Virginia didn't 76 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: get any, but they made two tough threes, including one 77 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: that was borderlined impossible that they put into the kid's credit. 78 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: How would you describe that challenge of trying to run 79 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: offense and get the best shot you can get in 80 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: the last few minutes of a tight Big Twelve game. 81 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: Well, I think you said it. 82 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: You're gonna try to generate an easy basket or the 83 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 3: easiest possible basket you. 84 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 4: Can, but you want to get a shot. 85 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 3: And I think there's this balance of making sure that 86 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 3: you're doing everything you can to execute to get a 87 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 3: great shot, to get the ball in the right spot, 88 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: but you don't want to turn it over. And I 89 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 3: think some of the things you've seen in the last 90 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 3: four minutes, we failed to even get the ball to 91 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 3: the rim on possessions. That's extremely frustrating because if you 92 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: get a shot, you still got a chance to go 93 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 3: rebound the dang thing late in the game. 94 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 4: So you're trying to get a shot. But you said it. 95 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: You know, we. 96 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: Lost two games here in the last four minutes. Houston 97 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 3: got the layup in transition and that they got to 98 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 3: put back on the dunk on the offensive rebound. 99 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 4: But it wasn't like they were. 100 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 3: Just coming down running a play and getting a great shot. 101 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 3: They were having to really work and made a big 102 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: isolation play late in the game to shoot it over 103 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 3: the top. I mean, in our league, you're gonna run 104 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 3: good action, it's probably gonna be defended in a close game, 105 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: and then you have to be able to go make 106 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 3: the next play. 107 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 4: We worked at that. 108 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: We worked at that going into the West Virginia game, 109 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 3: and then we worked at that again today in practice. 110 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 5: One of my partners sent me something where he did 111 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 5: the percentages of shots from three that you guys take 112 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 5: when it's guard to guard and the percentages when it 113 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 5: touches the post or there's a paint touch and the 114 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 5: and the percentage is almost double when the ball is 115 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 5: touched in the paint, whether it's a post player or 116 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 5: guards penetrating and kicking out and getting feet set in 117 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 5: the whole. 118 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: Nine over there. 119 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 5: And I know you talk about this paint touches. 120 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: And all the other things. 121 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 4: Is that something that's. 122 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 5: Discussed in your in your circles as you are preparing 123 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 5: that we have to touch the paint to be better shooters. 124 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, we talk about inside out shots, you know, and 125 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: we do chart paint touches. We don't share the paint 126 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 3: touch number with the players during the game, but we 127 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 3: do have them. But we talk about inside out shots. 128 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: And you're right, I mean, think about it. Every kid 129 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 3: growing up. 130 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 4: What the ball? 131 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 3: You know, it got passed to you from somebody rebounded 132 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,559 Speaker 3: it and passed it out right, you're stepping into the shot, 133 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 3: you're in rhythm, you're square to the rims. 134 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 5: Like managers, it's rebounding and passing it back to what 135 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 5: you're saying about us is not exclusive to us. 136 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: That's basketball, right, When the ball comes inside out, it's 137 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 3: a higher percentage shot. There's exceptions to that because there's 138 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: there's guys like Dayda Thomas, that it's hard for them 139 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 3: to even get a look because the way they're being defended. 140 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: And if they can get one on a swing or 141 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 3: a pitch ahead, yeah, that's a great shot. 142 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 4: For a guy like Dada and some others. 143 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: But some guys need to just take the inside out 144 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: ones and that's something we've been talking about showing film 145 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: and holding accountable for In practice. 146 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 2: Tyler McKinley came back the other night, first time he 147 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 2: had played in five games. I thought he played well. 148 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: He scored a career high six points, but he only 149 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: played nine something minutes. Was that about all he was 150 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 2: ready for. He hasn't really practiced much either over the 151 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:02,239 Speaker 2: last few weeks. 152 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 3: His first day of practice since our Georgia game the 153 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: day before our Georgia game was the day before the 154 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 3: West Virginia game. So he went through that practice, not 155 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 3: even every aspect of it, but for the most of it, 156 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: and then we kind of didn't know how it would go, 157 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 3: but he felt really good. 158 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 4: I thought our our medical staff did a. 159 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 3: Really nice job over from the Georgia game on of 160 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: not just getting him to where maybe he could practice 161 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: or play, but trying to get him back to being 162 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: confident and feeling healthier about his knee. And so you know, 163 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 3: he practiced again today and he looks good. He's he's 164 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: obviously tremendously important to our team. 165 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 4: Gisel James back in the starting lineup. 166 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 5: He came out with a great first game, but his 167 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 5: last two games, his shots have been He was one 168 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 5: of seven in the Houston game, three of thirteen. The 169 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 5: floor game has been good, but he is You're starting 170 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 5: to see some I don't know if it's fatigue or 171 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 5: just not having his legs under him yet, but the 172 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 5: percentages are not there. 173 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 3: You know, he has a small sample size right now, 174 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 3: so I think let's just give it some time. 175 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 4: He's he settles us down. 176 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: We're a different offensive team with him back in the fold. 177 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 3: A big picture of the numbers are saying that in 178 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: our analytical stuff, we feel it, the players feel it. 179 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: I know he'd like to have some of those opportunities 180 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: back in the game, especially that pitch ahead turnover. 181 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 4: We got a five point lead and we you know, we. 182 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 3: Get the rebound and you know we got a chance 183 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: to have a great offensive possession at three fifteen. 184 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 4: I know that when he'd love to have back some 185 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 4: of those looks. 186 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 3: But listen, Gisel James Is being back is very good 187 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 3: for Cincinnati basketball. It's been very good for our team 188 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 3: and it'll really help us moving forward. 189 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 2: Seannabiev was one for five in the game. He made 190 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 2: one three, but I thought his shots were good. They 191 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: were not from several steps behind the line. They were 192 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: on the line, they were in rhythm. I feel like 193 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 2: if those are the shots he takes going forward, he's 194 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 2: going to make a bunch. Did you like the shots 195 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 2: that he took in that game? 196 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,599 Speaker 4: Sure, he needs to play confidently. We need him to 197 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 4: shoot the ball. 198 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 3: You Terry talked about or maybe you did Dan, In 199 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: the last four minutes of games, people are gonna be 200 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 3: guarded and there's gonna be chances where guys have to 201 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 3: go make a tough shot and make a play. Shawn's 202 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 3: a guy that can go do that. We're gonna need that. 203 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 3: Knowing the time to do it is important. But he's 204 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 3: got We got a lot of big basketball ahead of us, 205 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 3: and Shawn's gonna really break out. 206 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 4: I really believe that. 207 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 5: I'm a power forward that played with the land of 208 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 5: power forwards back in the nineties when power forwards had 209 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 5: value or big man had value. But Nick never threw 210 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 5: me the ball. If I never wanted the ball, you know, 211 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 5: he would look at me and if I didn't call 212 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 5: for the ball with my hands, if I didn't say Nick, 213 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 5: you know, I didn't call his name, if I didn't 214 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 5: have my hands look excited, he would look at me 215 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 5: and wave and I would, you know, go sitting on 216 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 5: the ball screen and get out the way. But he 217 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 5: would say. Hugs said, you know who shoots the ball 218 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 5: the most? White, Nick shoots the ball the most. And 219 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 5: then Corey said, because he's a ball hog, and he 220 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 5: goes no, because he calls for the ball the most. 221 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 5: I say that because I don't see Mustafa Child calling 222 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 5: for the ball when you guys need a basket down low. 223 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 5: And he's so good, his touch is so good, and 224 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 5: it seems to me he allows defenders to easily front 225 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 5: him and to negate him from a play without him 226 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 5: trying to establish himself and get the ball. It's important 227 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 5: for him to catch the ball for everything that the 228 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 5: offense runs around, post paint, paint, touches, his turnaround jump shot, 229 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 5: how the offense runs. 230 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: If he catches the ball on the block, it's a 231 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: different team. 232 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,119 Speaker 3: You know, I'm I'm I'm probably the hardest on Mustafa 233 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: every day, you know, because I just think there's so 234 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: much ahead of him. I think there's so much more 235 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 3: room for growth, and he's still so young. He is 236 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 3: in that in basketball, he's a baby still, you know. 237 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 3: And I say that there's a compliment. Listen, the last 238 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 3: let's go back to the second half against Houston, he 239 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 3: was terrific. 240 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 4: He was that game was great. He didn't call for 241 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 4: the first second end of the game against Clemson. He's terrific. 242 00:10:58,880 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 4: In the Houston game. 243 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: An the West Virginia game, he's getting doubled in the post, 244 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 3: and I think that's the next step. Right, he's starting 245 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 3: to have success scoring back to the basket, and he's 246 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 3: found his touch and we're allowing him now to shoot 247 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: the jumper and the turnaround that I think has just 248 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 3: helped his confidence. But the next step is then embracing 249 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 3: that double team, you know, because that might mean you 250 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 3: don't score down there, Terry, but it might mean you 251 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 3: create offense for our team. 252 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 4: All the double in the bat. 253 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think he got doubled twice and the 254 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: last game wins a turnover one. 255 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 4: He hits Gisel for in the first half, so I. 256 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 3: Think we'll continue to build on that. But when they 257 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 3: start doubling you, that's that's a good sign. That means 258 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 3: people are worried about you. And then, as you said, 259 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 3: and this has been the emphasis with him since the 260 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 3: day he got the campus, when you catch it in 261 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 3: the post box and you catch it at three or 262 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 3: four feet, you can't be doubled because you're gonna shoot 263 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 3: it before the double team gets there. And that part 264 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 3: of his game he shows flashes of it. But when 265 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 3: that becomes consistent, it's all over. Right, it's all over. 266 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 3: He's going to be just completely dominant. So it's coming. 267 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 3: But the effort and the approach every day is what 268 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 3: it should be. There's not a day I come out 269 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 3: of the gym and I'm frustrated with new working at it. 270 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 3: And when you're that young and that gifted and you 271 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 3: work at it like that is a coach, you're fine 272 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: because you know what's coming. And I've seen improvement even 273 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 3: here in the first part of the year. 274 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna take our first time out. We 275 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 2: are alive with the original Montgomery in Home of the 276 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: World's Greatest Ribs it's the West Miller Radio Show. Got 277 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff to give away at the end 278 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: of the show. We appreciate the bear Cat fans who 279 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: are here on seven hundred WLW. We are back at 280 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 2: the original Montgomery In home of the world's greatest Ribs 281 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: and the West Miller Radio Show. Appreciate our engineer Joe Strucker, 282 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: appreciate Joe Idel back in the studio, and really appreciate 283 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: the Bearcat fans who are with us here tonight. We've 284 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 2: got a bunch of stuff to give away. At the 285 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: end of the show. We were talking about Mustafa chob 286 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: prior to the commercial break. He will be going back 287 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: to where he played last year on Sunday Cincinnati taking 288 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 2: on UCF in Orlando. I would imagine he's probably not 289 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: going to get the kindest greeting after transferring to a 290 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: school within the conference. Do you even say anything to 291 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: him about something like that, just prepare him for what 292 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 2: he might face. 293 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think previously, you know, maybe a couple of 294 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 3: years ago, stuff like that, I wouldn't say much to 295 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 3: any of these guys. But I think after you know, 296 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 3: last year's conference season, seeing how you know, things affected 297 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 3: our guys been way more proactive this year about, you know, 298 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: trying to to just talk. 299 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 4: About things with them because they're young people. 300 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 3: And I think the thing that we have to remember 301 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 3: about this generation is different than mine, different than Terry's, is. 302 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 4: They don't just hear it in person, that hear it on. 303 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: Their phones, you know, And I think that's a different 304 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: that's an entirely different dynamic and paradigm, and so trying 305 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 3: to find solutions for that, I think is very important. 306 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 3: That's not just at Cincinnati, that's at any elite program 307 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 3: or in any professional sports leader. 308 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 5: Kishan Tiller got nine minutes in the previous game, and 309 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 5: he was I thought his minness were really good. He 310 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 5: came in and steady. You played a lineup I haven't 311 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 5: seen before. You had three point guards on the floor 312 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 5: with Daddy Thomas, Gisel James and Kishaan. 313 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 4: Is that something that you'll see more going forward. 314 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 3: I think it's just Terry about putting the most competitive 315 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 3: guys that we can out there that are gonna play like, 316 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 3: regardless of size, play bearcat basketball and play with some 317 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 3: edge and toughness. And I've loved Keishawn's attitude and approach 318 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: since we came back from Christmas, It's been what you. 319 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 4: Want it to be. 320 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 3: And you know, with Kerr going down with the shoulder, 321 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 3: there's some opportunity there. I thought he made that made 322 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,239 Speaker 3: the most of that opportunity. In Morganton, Kerr. 323 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: Tried to come back and play in the huge game 324 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: after separating his shoulder in the first half. Gave it 325 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: a you know, gave it the college try, played a 326 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 2: few minutes and then absolutely had to come out and 327 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 2: did get a three before he would he's crazy and 328 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: that had to sit out the West Virginia game. How 329 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: do things look for him going forward? 330 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 4: You know, I hope sooner rather than later. Dan that 331 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 4: that hurt, you know. 332 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 3: I think the lineup of you talk about lineups, did 333 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 3: lineup of dayDay Kerr and Gisel analytically was like our 334 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 3: best offensive lineup that we've we've played in years, you know, 335 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: in a very short burst. But we were feeling that 336 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 3: in practice too. We're really excited about the moments that 337 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 3: we had those guys together. So I can't wait to 338 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 3: get back to that. But hopefully he'll be back soon. 339 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 3: But as I told you guys, I think the last 340 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 3: time we were up here when it comes to the 341 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 3: doctor stuff. 342 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 4: I'm the last guy to talk to. 343 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 3: I know he wants he was He's so emotional, you know, 344 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 3: in the Houston game when he couldn't play. He was 345 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 3: emotional at halftime, emotional after the game. And you can 346 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 3: tell it's just not quite himself because he wants to 347 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 3: be out there. 348 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 4: Watching Jalen Celestine. 349 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 5: Every time he checks in the game, he's gotta it 350 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 5: takes him like thirty seconds to unwrap stuff, and he's 351 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 5: pulling stuff off, and he's got a heating pad on 352 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 5: his back and he keeps leaving it in front of 353 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 5: Dan and I and the managers. 354 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: I'm looking like, are you guys gonna. 355 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 4: Come get this stuff? 356 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 5: Every time he comes out, he's like he's in a 357 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 5: geriatric unit or something walking out, you know, there's some 358 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 5: old man walking out. Then he comes in there and 359 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 5: he's knocking down three after three. He's five to nine 360 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 5: from three, and it's like, man, this dude is when 361 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 5: we talk about him being a late shot clock maker 362 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 5: and you didn't, like you kind of like surprised, and 363 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 5: I'm like no. Then he comes right out and hits 364 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 5: the late of the end of the shot clock shot 365 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 5: and I'm like this guy just has a different level 366 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 5: of focus at the end of clock situations. 367 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 4: Are you noticing that? What I notice? All the crap 368 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 4: that he has all? 369 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 3: And then you know, this is this has been a 370 00:16:55,200 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 3: strange thing, but I've never had this occur. We'll be 371 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 3: in the time out and we're sitting there, right he's 372 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 3: in the game, so he's sitting in one of the 373 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 3: five chairs. He'll just stand up because you know, he's 374 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 3: trying to keep his back from stiffing it up. 375 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 4: And I'm sometimes I'm. 376 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 3: Like, what the hell's he standing up for? Like we're 377 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,239 Speaker 3: only twenty seconds into this time out, but he's you know, 378 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 3: he's I'll give him credit. The back surgery was serious 379 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 3: this summer. You know, he basically didn't practice or he 380 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 3: didn't do anything for three months or so, and then 381 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 3: he was completely limited in practice. And you know, he's 382 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 3: trying to do everything he can to get himself ready 383 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 3: to play every night, and he's getting better and better 384 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 3: and getting more up to speed what we're doing. 385 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 4: But you know, there's one point. 386 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 3: I thought, we we put together this team with all 387 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 3: this experience, right, all these older guys and experience, and 388 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 3: we put the team together, and then we looked up 389 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 3: in a game right after a Thanksgiving week and there's 390 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 3: like Key Shawn and Tyler McKinley and Sean and. 391 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 4: Somebody else on the court. 392 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,360 Speaker 3: I'm like, there's like four In Moustapa there was there 393 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 3: was three freshmen and the sophomore out there in a lineup, 394 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 3: and I'm going, you know, And then the other side 395 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 3: of it is, you know, the old guys are coming 396 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 3: out with all their contraptions and stuff now. 397 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 4: But you know, but I think, yes, we like the 398 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 4: mix of it. But getting the ability. 399 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 3: To have the oldest, most experienced guys on the court 400 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 3: is important thing in the Big twelve. 401 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 2: Let's talk about your game coming up on Sunday. UCF 402 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 2: was not a team that was widely expected to be 403 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 2: great this year. Their top twenty five got some really 404 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: good wins to this point of the season. Now they 405 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 2: lost their last game on the road at Oklahoma State. 406 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: No shame in losing there, certainly, What do you make 407 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: of UCF and the season they've had to date? 408 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 3: Done a great job. It's it's like us, it's a 409 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 3: completely new roster. You know, you're going to see that 410 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 3: in college athletics now with all the changing around you. 411 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 4: Know, sometimes you don't. 412 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 3: Know do they get there right, But they did a 413 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 3: great job of putting the team together, and they're so long, 414 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: like they're huge. They they make other teams on tape 415 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 3: look small that aren't small. I mean they're starting three. 416 00:18:58,800 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 4: Man is six'. 417 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 3: Nine do you know they start a seven foot or 418 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 3: at the five they're they're they're starting To Riley coogle's 419 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 3: sixty six. ATHLETIC i mean they. Are they're a massive 420 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 3: team that jumps. Out they they're doing a great job 421 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 3: of getting downhill and putting pressure on the rim getting. 422 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 3: Fouled they're shooting a great percentage from three and not 423 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 3: taking a ton of, them but they're shooting a great 424 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 3: percentage when they. Do and it seems like it comes 425 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 3: from different places with a bunch of different guys in double. 426 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 3: Figures so now they've they've had a really nice start 427 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 3: and top twenty five game on the. 428 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 4: Road you have. 429 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 5: A bona fide junkyard dog In Sincere, harris so you 430 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 5: can sick on just about any guy out there on the. 431 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 5: FLOOR i mean he is guarding and when you guys runs, 432 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 5: on he finds himself guarding a big when he's when 433 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 5: you need somebody just When hunt was, hot you Put 434 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 5: harris on him and he cooled him. DOWN i, mean 435 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 5: he just he does so. 436 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: Much do you have to go with the other? 437 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 5: Stuff like you get so much good stuff out of 438 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 5: him on the, defense do you have to put up 439 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 5: with some of the shots that you would like to 440 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 5: get back from him on the offensive? 441 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 4: End, No, NO i don't think it's put. 442 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 3: UP i think it's just he's got to continue to 443 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 3: mature as a player every because he's a good. Player and, 444 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 3: yeah he's an, impactful winning, player and you know he's 445 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 3: he's got to. Continue he has offensive ability and we 446 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 3: have confidence in. It he works at it pretty hard every, 447 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 3: day and so we got To he's got to continue to, 448 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 3: mature to be in the right spots and make better, 449 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,479 Speaker 3: decisions AND i think he'll do. 450 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 4: That he's a winning player. 451 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely Dayde thomas is making ninety five percent of his free. 452 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: Throws no player AND u see, history has ever shot 453 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 2: better than ninety in a. SEASON i, Heard, yeah that's, 454 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: accurate that's. Accurate i'm An i'm an exceptionally Good papa shot. 455 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 2: Player can can. Day they work with his teammates helping 456 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 2: them become, better make them a free throwing. Coach it's 457 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 2: it's been. EXTRAORDINARY i, mean thirty nine for forty, one that's. 458 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 4: Crazy, yeah that's good. Stuff he's, uh he's really turned 459 00:20:58,960 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 4: into a great. 460 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 3: PLAYER i know there's some plays in the last game 461 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 3: you'd like to have, back but he's he's turned into 462 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 3: a real bear, cat big time, player big time, leader 463 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 3: And i'm proud of all of his. Development with our 464 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 3: free throw, shooting it'll continue to get some proved since 465 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 3: the first part of the, year it'll get. Better we 466 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 3: got to get back to getting fouled. Again you, know 467 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 3: we haven't gotten fouled here the last couple, hals and 468 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 3: we got to get back to getting ourselves to the 469 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 3: free throw a. 470 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 2: Long all, right do you have something you'd like that 471 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: oruld you like to take a? Break, oh let's take a. 472 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: Break all, Right we're gonna take a. Break questions from 473 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 2: the audience when we. Continue we are live at the 474 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 2: Original montgomery In home of The World's greatest ribs A 475 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: News radio seven HUNDRED. Wlw we're back at the Original 476 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 2: montgomery in all of the world's greatest ribs and The 477 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,719 Speaker 2: West Miller Radio Show here on News radio seven HUNDRED. 478 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 2: WLW i THINK i just blew out some ear. DRUMS 479 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: i apologize for. That brian has the mic in. Hand 480 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: you're up first one. 481 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 6: Man, hey, COACH i know that you and your staff 482 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 6: are working really hard to try to turn this, corner 483 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 6: AND i know that the players are working really hard 484 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 6: to turn this. Corner but at the end of the, 485 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 6: day you want them to still enjoy playing, basketball and 486 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 6: you don't want it to be so much work that 487 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 6: you hate what you're. Doing is there anything that you're 488 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 6: doing to try to keep that balance and to keep 489 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 6: the positivity along with trying to. 490 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 4: Get over that hurdle that you're struggling with at the. Moment. 491 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 3: Absolutely we had that talk after The houston, game and 492 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 3: then we we actually played. Knockout like one of the, Kids, 493 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 3: JACK i believe over, there one of my campers is 494 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 3: sitting over, there who's been at our camp in the, 495 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 3: summertimes but. 496 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 4: Knockout it's a big camp. 497 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: Game but the coaches and, players the coaches that were 498 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 3: physically able played knockout and it's. 499 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 4: Like anything like you just see a pure joy in those. 500 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 4: Moments and then. 501 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 3: We talked about how nothing can take that joy. Away 502 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 3: that's why we all got into this at one. Point 503 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 3: we all started playing just for the love of. Playing 504 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 3: you can't lose, that and you gotta find joy in the, Work. 505 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 3: Brian you gotta find joy in the. Process you gotta 506 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 3: find joy in the opportunity to come back and compete 507 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 3: again at the highest. 508 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 4: Level you can't lose sight of. 509 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 3: That so it's something that's a, message and then you 510 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 3: try to find ways to remind guys of. That and 511 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 3: then no matter, what you're, frustrated you're. Angry you want 512 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 3: results to a. 513 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 4: Level that's even hard to. 514 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 3: Explain so you can't let yourself get caught up in 515 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 3: that as a, coach because at the end of the, 516 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:34,959 Speaker 3: day it is supposed to be very. 517 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 2: Joyful all, Right next, question, coach. 518 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 7: Thanks for all you're doing for our Bear. CATS i 519 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 7: have a, question how do you as a coach maintain 520 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 7: the cohesiveness of the team when you have this portal 521 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 7: system going? On can you speak to that a little? 522 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: Bit, sure it's you, Know dan AND i were talking 523 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 3: come off air here just a minute ago about the 524 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 3: dynamics of college sports and how much they've. CHANGED i 525 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 3: think that that's a different challenge than it used to. 526 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 3: Be you, know like cohesiveness with With Dade thomas And 527 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 3: Gisel james is. Simple we've been together for two and 528 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 3: a half now almost going on, three three full. Years 529 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 3: we've been through a lot. Together there's a level of 530 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 3: trust that we, Have Like tyler McKinley's only in his 531 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 3: red shirt freshman, year but Cruited tyler. McKinley i mean 532 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 3: since the first MONTH i got, Here i've known him 533 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 3: and his mother and his. 534 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 4: Brother so there's. 535 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 3: Relationships but some of this stuff with The portal now 536 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 3: you don't even know anybody in any kind of way 537 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 3: until after you spend time with them when they show, 538 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 3: up you. 539 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 4: Know so that's a. 540 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 3: Different, dynamic and you're trying to find every single way 541 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: that you can to create that. 542 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 4: Coherences within the. 543 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 3: TEAM i think it shared adversity is the best way 544 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 3: to come. Together we talked about that a little bit 545 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 3: as a team that we've we've been through some stuff 546 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 3: together that's actually gives us a leg up on other 547 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 3: people that haven't if we handle it the right. Way 548 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 3: so there's there's not one answer because every way you 549 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 3: can think, of we're trying to create that. Dynamic i'm 550 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 3: really proud of this Group they've made efforts in the 551 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: summer to get to know each, other to get to know, 552 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 3: everybody people from different, backgrounds different, countries and they've continued 553 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 3: to do, that but it's it's a challenge in today's. 554 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:29,719 Speaker 4: Climate brian has another, question you're a, shooter did you win? 555 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 4: KNOCKOUT i don't want to talk. 556 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 3: About, that as As terry, SAID i might need to 557 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 3: cool down BEFORE i answer that. Question but the the 558 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 3: NO i did not day day, one which is not 559 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 3: probably not a surprise in any of you, guys But 560 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 3: Sean abiab was behind. 561 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 4: Me and before the ball bounced he'd made it behind. 562 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 4: Me so there you. Go all. 563 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: Right any other audience, questions if, show if, SO t 564 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: now will find. You, yes, Sir hello. 565 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 8: COACH i know this IS uc bearcut, night BUT i 566 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 8: just wanted to comment About miami and, secondly somebody like 567 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 8: In miami is having great. 568 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 4: Success does that put a lot of. 569 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 8: Extra pressure on the, program Where, okay this is what 570 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 8: you can, do we expect it every. 571 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 2: Week miami, Football miami, Basketball Miami university In oxford And. 572 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 3: Oxford, yeah oh, well congrats to those. Guys John holmes 573 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 3: on their staff is one of my great. Friends one 574 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 3: of the assistant coaches is there is one of my great. 575 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 3: Friends i'm really happy that those guys are doing. 576 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 4: Well, NO i. 577 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 3: DON'T i don't look at it that way at, all 578 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 3: BUT i certainly when my friends are doing, WELL i 579 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 3: feel good for. 580 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 4: Him that's the first THING i feel. 581 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 3: Like, SERIOUSLY i love seeing a buddy in coaching do 582 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 3: well and being able to shoot him a text tell them, 583 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 3: congrats because you know what everybody's putting into. 584 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 2: It all. Right we have a young lady who has. 585 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 4: A, question what do you feel ice? 586 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: Cream, oh, well there you. GO i know you like ice, 587 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: cream so it's a legit. 588 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 3: Question and my Girlfriend lauren over there is smiling as 589 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 3: big as you can smile BECAUSE i have an ice cream. 590 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 4: Problem that's my. Vice ice. 591 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 2: Cream and you move to the right. 592 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 3: City Great graters has BECOME i got the rewards system 593 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 3: going At, graters but chocolate chip cookie. Dough but WHEN 594 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 3: i go To, graters which is too, often And i'll 595 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 3: go every after every radio, show we stop at The 596 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 3: graters At kenwood on the way, home and every single 597 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 3: Time lauren, says don't do. It and every TIME i pull, 598 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 3: in BUT i get a scoop of cookie dough with 599 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 3: scoop of cookies and cream and rainbow sprinkles every single. 600 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: Time solid, order very solid. Order you, know when people 601 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 2: Say Happy New, YEAR i remind them That Peach month 602 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 2: is only five months. Away so that's one of the 603 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: best parts about the calendar Hitting january. First all, right 604 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: we're gonna take a time. Out more questions when we 605 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 2: come back With Coach. Miller this is The West Miller Radio. 606 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: Show we're live at the Original Montgomery, In home of 607 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: the World's Greatest, ribs on seven HUNDRED. Wlw got a 608 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 2: great crowd tonight here at the Original Montgomery, In home 609 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: of the World's Greatest ribs and The West Miller Radio. 610 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 2: Show we've got about six things to give away at 611 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 2: the end of the. Show you got to be here 612 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: in order to. Win got some good prizes to give 613 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 2: away at the end of tonight's. Show all, right more 614 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: questions from the. Audience fire, Away. 615 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 9: Yeah, coach back to the portal and roster turnover. Discussion 616 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 9: if you were named commissioner OF Ncaa, basketball what are 617 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 9: the two or three things you would do to make 618 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 9: sure players are equitably? Compensated but then also there's continuity with, 619 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 9: rosters fans can follow a, player say from freshmen to 620 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 9: sophomore to. 621 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 2: Junior, year and that kind of. Thing best Question i've 622 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 2: ever heard right. 623 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 4: There, WELL i enjoy coaching so. 624 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,959 Speaker 3: MUCH i don't want to be the, commissioner BUT i 625 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 3: WISH i could tell the mission or what to. Do 626 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 3: and then WHAT i would tell them to do Is number, 627 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 3: one we have to Be i'd have multi year. CONTRACTS i, 628 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 3: mean this is professional. Sports we need to have professional, 629 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 3: contracts uh where they they're tied down for, two, three four, 630 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 3: Years so we can have and, if like, anybody they 631 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: can get bought out of those, contracts like. Right but 632 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 3: then there's the like all of us that are, professionals 633 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 3: we signed contracts and we're bound to those. 634 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 4: CONTRACTS i think that. 635 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 3: Has to happen so there's continuity and we can get 636 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 3: back to some similar to. 637 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 4: That that that'd. Be that's the main. THING i. Think 638 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 4: there has to be a real. 639 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 3: Cap whatever they call a cap now that is it 640 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 3: is completely irrelevant and non. EXISTENT i mean nothing nothing 641 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 3: can hold up in a in a in a court 642 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 3: of law right. Now, uh you know it's all anti trust. 643 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 3: Stuff so you, Know i'm no. LAWYER i live with, 644 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 3: one which is scary. Times but you know you're gonna 645 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 3: have to collectively. Bargain AND i know that that that 646 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 3: causes a lot of problems in other areas for other. 647 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 3: Sports but if it's just about basketball and you, WANT 648 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 3: i don't see another. Way i'd love it to be another. 649 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 3: Way but you're gonna have to collectively. Bargain you're gonna 650 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 3: have to have a real cap with real. Teeth you're 651 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 3: gonna have to get exemptions from From congress and from 652 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 3: the federal. 653 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 4: Government there's already. 654 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 3: Models they're Called Professional Sports, league and that's that's that's 655 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 3: the only way that this thing is going to get 656 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 3: back to being something that has some level of fairness 657 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 3: across the. Board it's never been. Fair it's not fair 658 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 3: in THE, nfl it's not. 659 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 4: Fair in THE. Nba but at least the rules. 660 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 3: Are everybody knows the, rules everybody's got to play by the, 661 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 3: rules and we have to get back to some level of. 662 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: That it's the only way you can have competitive balance 663 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 2: in professional. Sports THE nfl has a, cap THE nba 664 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: has a, cap THE nhl has a. Cap baseball doesn't 665 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 2: have a. Cap but you are committed to your original 666 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: team for your first six years of your, career and you, 667 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 2: have you, know a tax for the teams that spend 668 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: over the spending limit, essentially so there are ways to 669 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 2: make it fair for, everybody whether you have a cap or. 670 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 2: Not college sports doesn't have any of that right. Now 671 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: it's unlimited free, agency unlimited. Spending it makes no sense. 672 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 3: None and this is the part that you, know bothers 673 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 3: me the most is people, say. 674 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 4: The, kids the, kid the, kids the kids are no. 675 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 3: Different the adults screwed this one. UP i mean, seriously, 676 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 3: like the adults screwed this. Up the kids are just, 677 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 3: kids and you know they're they're being now directed to 678 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 3: do all these different things to improve their you, know 679 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 3: like improve their personal. Situation but they're they're being directed 680 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 3: by because adults. 681 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,239 Speaker 4: Changed all these. 682 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 3: Rules they're doing what any of us would have. Done 683 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 3: and it's it's not fair to them to blame. Them 684 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 3: it's the adults that screwed this. 685 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 5: Up is there a level of frustration amongst college coaches 686 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 5: about the portal timeline opening up when the season's not. 687 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 3: Over the truth IS i try not to get too 688 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 3: involved in, it BUT i couldn't tell you one college 689 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 3: coach not one that is happy with the way things, 690 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 3: are not. 691 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 4: One there's not one coach that, goes, oh this is. 692 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 3: GREAT i think every single college, coach whether they'd say 693 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 3: it publicly or, not is privately very frustrated because, again 694 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 3: there's no Like dan, said there's no there's no rules 695 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 3: or understanding of what the playing field. Is AND i 696 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 3: think that's chaos and nobody likes, living you, know twelve 697 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 3: months a year in that chaotic. 698 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 4: Thing but, yeah the portal, THING i. DON'T i, mean 699 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 4: what is the role this? 700 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 3: Year Change? Terry it changes every, month, MAN i. Don't 701 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 3: didn't they come back and do something different? 702 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 4: Now but it's short, first but they shortened it. Again 703 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 4: maybe that was the. 704 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 5: First it was the second Of january to like the 705 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 5: fourteenth or, sixteenth so it was two. 706 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 4: WEEKS i don't. 707 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 3: Know but they're gonna do something and then they'll do 708 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 3: something the next. Year and who knows That this is the. 709 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 3: Truth you, Know it used to be that the season 710 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 3: is a it's, fun like this is fun even the tough, 711 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 3: days it's still. Fun it's but it's a crazy, grind, 712 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 3: right like the grind of the everyday part of the, 713 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 3: season and that stretch used to be the most difficult 714 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 3: time of the year mentally physically for coaches is, that you, 715 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 3: know especially you get the conference Play january Through march 716 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 3: and then it ends and you, GO i take a 717 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 3: breath AND i start my spring recruiting and that kind of. 718 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 3: Thing but you did get to take a Breath april And. 719 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,239 Speaker 3: May now those are the two most difficult months of 720 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 3: the season or the of the year by one, HUNDRED 721 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 3: i mean by one, Hundred LIKE i can't Even, yeah 722 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 3: you're building a roster from virtually scratch every, year and 723 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 3: every minute it's. Changing you, know like you have a 724 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,439 Speaker 3: big board in, recruiting and you know we all did 725 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 3: this for. Years you have the you, know the top, 726 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 3: guys the next, guy and you, know in a normal recruiting, 727 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 3: cycle you, know maybe a guy slides off the board 728 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 3: one week and then you add another guy your big, 729 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 3: board and recruiting can change in three hours in the. 730 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 4: Portal and that's not an. 731 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 3: EXAGGERATION i, mean you could be recruiting somebody two days 732 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 3: later you'd even know their. Name and that's not just, 733 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 3: us that's everybody that's chaos and eventually it'll all figure itself. 734 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 4: Out but it's it's, wild all. 735 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 2: Right we do a thing on the pregame show every 736 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 2: game Called Tea time with T neel WHERE i Hit 737 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,479 Speaker 2: terry with some offbeat, questions And i've had a couple 738 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 2: recently THAT i hit him with THAT i want to 739 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 2: hit you. With all. Right so a couple of games, 740 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 2: ago we were talking about, coaches AND i, Asked, terry 741 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 2: give me a couple of college basketball coaches that you 742 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 2: would have liked to play for back in the. Day 743 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 2: SO i know you played for the coach that would 744 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 2: be at the top of your list In Coach, Williams 745 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 2: but aside From Coach, roy give me a couple of 746 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 2: coaches college basketball history that you would have loved to play. 747 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 4: For, wow that's a heck of a. Question that it. 748 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 2: Was cartanian was at the top of Ten l's. 749 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 3: LIST i like that because you, Know hugs And tarcanian were. 750 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 3: Similar huggs wouldn't have liked. ME i wouldn't have wasn't 751 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 3: this type of guy as a. Player, now Tom izzo 752 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 3: sticks out to. Me i'd like to play for Tom. 753 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 3: IZZO i was on A it's funny recruiting. 754 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 4: The summer In. JULY i was out Somewhere. 755 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 3: LAGOON i don't, know some tournament Didas national tournament was 756 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 3: out in Like Laguna beach or. SOMETHING i, mean how 757 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 3: the heck can they get through? That but, anyway so 758 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 3: there's a red eye from Like John Wayne, airport which 759 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 3: is Like Orange, COUNTY i, think To atlanta because THE 760 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 3: Nike finals is In, Augusta. Georgia so you watch games 761 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 3: UNTIL i don't know the last the last game you 762 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 3: can watch to go catch this red. Eye you watch 763 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 3: like the eight o'clock, game and then you drive To 764 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 3: John wayne AND i get on the red eye And 765 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 3: i'm about to lay back and go to, sleep and 766 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 3: the next guy that comes Is Tom izzo and sits beside, 767 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 3: me And i'm, GOING i was starting to feel bad 768 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 3: myself a little bit, Here i'm gonna take a red. 769 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 4: Eye i'm gonna land In. Atlanta i'm gonna drive to 770 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 4: august And. 771 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get at the nine o'clock game In, Augusta, 772 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 3: georgia And i'm Going i'm tougher and, EVERYBODY i, mean 773 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 3: nobody else is doing. THIS i don't know how Old 774 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 3: tom Is tho, is But i'm, like, damn that's something. 775 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 4: Else you know. 776 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 3: That BUT i respect from a, distance AND i don't know. 777 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 3: Him we talked the whole, flight SO i didn't sleep at, 778 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 3: all BUT i respect from a distance how hard he 779 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 3: works at, it how tough his teams. Play AND i 780 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 3: you know that that was the GUY i played. FOR 781 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 3: i could play for a guy Like so that just 782 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 3: off the top of my. Head But i'm sure there's 783 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 3: quite a. 784 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 5: Few our sports information director who bears all the gifts and, Tickets, 785 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 5: uh just text me the date of the. Portal it 786 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 5: Opens april seventh through the twenty first this, Year so 787 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 5: those two weeks seventh to the twenty, first and the 788 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 5: last year we were in The Crown tournament and The 789 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 5: portland opened up while the teams are still, playing WHICH 790 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 5: i just think it's just it's, like finish the job. 791 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 5: Before you wouldn't have The kiffin situation right. Now if 792 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 5: no coach could talk until football season was, over you 793 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 5: wouldn't have the issues that you have in. Sports and we. 794 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 3: Could we could make the commissioner a lot of people 795 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 3: and they'd get a lot better real. 796 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 4: Quick terror you could be the. Commissioner we get it. 797 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 2: Fixed you, know it would be nice if there was a. 798 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 2: COMMISSIONER i mean that Was the question was if you 799 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 2: were the. Commissioner there isn't a. Commissioner be nice if 800 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 2: there was somebody that that was overseeing the, sport that 801 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 2: was actually trying to. 802 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 4: Fix Nick saban would be for. 803 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 2: FOOTBALL i like that. Idea all, right here's another tea 804 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 2: time For temael. Question this was from the last. Game 805 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 2: there's a statue Of oscar outside our. Arena there's a 806 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 2: statue Of Jerry west outside of The West Virginia. Arena 807 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 2: could those guys have played? Today of, course come, on come, 808 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 2: on let athleticism some people don't think they. 809 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,479 Speaker 3: COULD i Mean Oscar robertson's was ahead of his time. 810 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 3: ATHLETICALLY i mean triple double, averaged, big big physical. GUARD i, 811 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 3: mean imagine if they did the way they don't call 812 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 3: fouls now in THE, NBA. 813 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 4: I mean do whatever you, can dribble the ball wherever you, 814 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 4: want or the way they do call. 815 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 3: FOWLS i, say, like imagine a guy Like Oscar, robertson 816 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 3: he could get. 817 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 4: To any spot he wanted on the. Floor he'd be. 818 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 3: Incredible That the argument about like MY mj and all 819 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 3: this not having to play against today's players is. Hilarious 820 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 3: if you played guys Like oscar if the rules were 821 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 3: they were in the league when they, played they'd be even, 822 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 3: better you, know and so and Then Jerry west is 823 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 3: one of the greatest shooters that ever. Lived and shooting, shooting, shooting. 824 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 3: Shooting there's been some guys that played in THE nba that. 825 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 3: COULDN'T i, mean you AND i are more athletic than 826 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 3: they are now, recently but they could then they shooted 827 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 3: it such a crazy clip they get on AN nba. 828 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 3: Floor So Jerry west would have been just, fine all. 829 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 2: Right terry, agreed by the, Way terry thought that those 830 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 2: guys could could. Play all, right here's the next. Question 831 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 2: at what point at how bad would a modern player 832 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 2: have to be to attempt The Rick berry underhand granny 833 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 2: style free? Throw have you? 834 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 3: Ever have you, seriously have you guys ever listened to 835 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 3: the Podcast malcolm Glad we'll had a Podcast Revisionist, history 836 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 3: like season. One it's one of the first ones he 837 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 3: ever did in season one on this like very famous 838 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 3: podcast he, had and he talks about it's. Fascinating everybody should. 839 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 3: Listen but to, me it's about the. Result But Wilt 840 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 3: chamberlain stopped doing it. 841 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 2: Correct because in the hundred point. Game he shot granny 842 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 2: style and made a good, percentage and then he was 843 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 2: so embarrassed and so many people mocked him that he 844 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,280 Speaker 2: stopped doing it and was a horrific free throw shooter 845 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 2: for the rest of his Care. 846 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 5: He even tried duncan from the free throw line until 847 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 5: they put the so you can't go outside the. 848 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 2: Circle, yeah take a running. Step, yes they tell you 849 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 2: cannot leave the. 850 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 5: Circle an he wore because he would go and finger 851 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 5: roll it as long as his feet didn't touch the 852 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 5: grammar for the ball went to the. Basket he did 853 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 5: that a couple of, times and then that looked. 854 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 3: Crazy Rick barry's son played in college. BASKETBALL i don't 855 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 3: know at some points Since i've been in coach and 856 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 3: he shot on her hand and shot A d SO i, think, 857 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 3: uh his youngest. SON i think his name Was. Canyon but, 858 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 3: shoot if it goes, in shoot. IT i, Mean I'm 859 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 3: i'd be all. For maybe we should try it with the. 860 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 5: Couplers have you ever seen the Movie This Is Way 861 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 5: Before Your? 862 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 4: Time the fish that Say pitchbird With doctor. J, Yes. 863 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 5: So they had a guy on the team that is 864 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 5: he was the background of the of the movie his 865 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,399 Speaker 5: name was Set. Shot he only got in the game 866 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 5: to take the charge and get ran over and then 867 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 5: he would make a free throw to win the. Game 868 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 5: but he never got in the, game and it was 869 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 5: like one possession game and the coach would, say, okay 870 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 5: you know what you gotta, do go let and run you, 871 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 5: over and he would get ran, over kicking the, chest 872 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 5: need hit his head and then you, know the music 873 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 5: was coming down to the camera was. Slow he would 874 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 5: wipe off the, sweat get to the free thom line 875 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 5: and he'd be the star of the. Game do you 876 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 5: think that you would ever put a guy in the 877 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 5: game in a situation that he didn't touch the floor 878 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 5: all game just to come in and get fired to 879 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,240 Speaker 5: make a free throw at the end of a situation 880 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 5: if he wasn't. 881 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 4: Warm IF i thought it would, Work i'd do. 882 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 3: It if there was ANYTHING i thought would, Work i'd 883 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 3: do it for. Sure IF i thought it made, Sense 884 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 3: i'd do it if it would help us. WIN i don't. 885 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 3: Know IF i don't, know IF i believe in that 886 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 3: one be a pretty special guy to sit over there 887 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 3: the whole game coming. In what's your take on. 888 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 5: Guys PLAYING nba or getting drafted by THE nba and 889 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 5: coming back to college if they don't you know the 890 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 5: rules of. 891 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 2: It SO. 892 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 4: I don't. Know, AGAIN i think IT'S i think it's. 893 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 3: Absurd you, Know i'm not knocking anybody that does, it 894 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 3: because everybody's trying to find every single. Edge we, listen 895 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 3: we'd take that same edge if we were if we 896 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 3: were first to think of. THAT i, mean BUT i 897 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 3: think it's. Absurd we have to have, rules and if 898 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,720 Speaker 3: that miss a rule that we all know, about then't. 899 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 3: Great BUT i think this stuff that just pops up 900 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 3: all the time is. 901 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 2: Absurd all. Right on that, note we're gonna wrap things up. 902 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 2: Again we've got a bunch of stuff to give away 903 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 2: here momentarily to the people who came out to the. 904 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 2: Show greatly appreciated. Tonight if you've been listening on the, 905 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 2: radio thanks for tuning. In we got The bearcats coming 906 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 2: up AT Ucf sunday at five. O'clock our radio coverage 907 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 2: will start at four thirty On sunday until. Then For 908 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 2: tmail And Coach, Miller I'm Dan. Horde thanks for listening 909 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 2: to The West Miller Radio, SHOW A News radio seven HUNDRED. 910 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 2: Wlw thanks, guys