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Speaker 1: From the fish filled Midwest Lakes to the deep woods

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Speaker 1: of the North Upland prairies filled with pheasants, to the

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Speaker 1: whistling wings of duck ponds. This is Saturday Morning Fan Outdoors,

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Speaker 1: your show for hunting and fishing tips, topics and conversations.

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Speaker 1: You can also send us a question or opinion by

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Speaker 1: emailing us booth at kfean dot com. Here's your host,

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Speaker 1: the Fans, Captain Billy Hildebrand.

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Speaker 2: Heard Morning Fan Outdoors, faithful, Yes, good morning to you. Well,

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Speaker 2: getting here today was a whole lot easier than it

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Speaker 2: was last week because last week there's a road tore

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Speaker 2: up on the way to the studio from the North

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Speaker 2: Metro and it caught me by surprise in the dark,

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Speaker 2: and I kind of panicked. And actually that was two

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Speaker 2: weeks ago, and last week I had forgotten about it,

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Speaker 2: and then the panic set in. But this week, piece

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Speaker 2: of cake, Piece of cake, even in the dark, I

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Speaker 2: could tell which roads I needed to take to get

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Speaker 2: around it and get here and join you on this

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Speaker 2: fine morning, the twenty second day of November today when

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Speaker 2: it lightens up, which it's not right now, but as

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Speaker 2: I did my weekly peer out the garage as I

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Speaker 2: opened the door. It's partly cloudy and about thirty seven

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Speaker 2: degrees right now. We're shooting for a high of forty

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Speaker 2: five degrees in the North Metro. I'm not sure it

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Speaker 2: is what it'll be where you are, but you can

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Speaker 2: kind of throw this out the window if you'd like

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Speaker 2: and see what happens in your world. But they're predicting

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Speaker 2: a west southwest wind five to ten miles an hour.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday it was quite balmy for this time of year

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Speaker 2: in November, and I actually cleaned my yard for the

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Speaker 2: I've cleaned it for the last time like three times now.

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Speaker 2: But that's I guess. There's a lot of people that

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Speaker 2: don't do anything with their yard. They just leaves collect,

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Speaker 2: and when I get a west wind, they all collect

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Speaker 2: looking up at me and it's not a big deal,

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Speaker 2: but it irritates me a little bit. And we'll just

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Speaker 2: let that fly to today. Sun will arrive at seven

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Speaker 2: twenty and set at four thirty eight. And if you're

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Speaker 2: a Sisconsin night that likes to hunt deer, this is

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Speaker 2: your white tail opener. But Minnesota's has come and for

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Speaker 2: the most part gone. But it was a good opener

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Speaker 2: from all the records and everything that I have looked

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Speaker 2: at and seen a few more deer. They predict at

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Speaker 2: the end of our seasons, which includes muzzleloading and muzzleloading

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Speaker 2: and muzzleloading, we will have either gotten close to last

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Speaker 2: Difference in Minnesota and Wisconsin a lot of them. And

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Speaker 2: I'll choose to stay here. I guess that's kind of

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Speaker 2: probably be hunting deer with Eric and Chad, and that

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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving around the corner. That brings me to one of

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Speaker 2: the things, one of the topics that we'll broach a

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Speaker 2: if you listen to a lot of the TV news,

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Speaker 2: they're going to have videos and they're going to have

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Speaker 2: horror stories about deep frying your turkey. Listen, it ain't

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Speaker 2: that big a deal. If it's intimidated you the end

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Speaker 2: be a lot less intimidated. I have cooked probably twenty

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Speaker 2: I have yet I have yet to burn my house

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Speaker 2: I thank him for joining because there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: mother Nature to keep talking about. And when our time

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Speaker 2: often than not that man is right on the money.

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Speaker 2: So I hope it will be entertaining for you as

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Speaker 2: and think to yourself, what would you do in this situation.

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Speaker 2: The man, from everything I have read, was an incredible

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Speaker 2: And it turns out that he and his best friend

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Speaker 2: So I asked you to think about what you would do.

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Speaker 2: And I know people will say you're just supposed to

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Speaker 2: you with all sincerity that I wouldn't do this thing,

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Speaker 2: honest to goodness. There's something about a dog, a hunting dog,

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Speaker 2: Something about hunting dogs that make them at least in

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Speaker 2: It's a very very sad situation. But from everything that

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Speaker 2: And it's a terrible, terrible tragedy that didn't really have

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Speaker 2: to take a pause. But it's the Wisconsin deer opener.

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Speaker 2: Minnesota probably made a great call this year because they

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Speaker 2: my opinion anyway, because a lot of things I have

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Speaker 2: heard were Eric shot a big but big buck, nice buck,

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Speaker 2: Out on land, that they have permission, that are they lease,

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Speaker 2: that they have permission to hunt? They pay for it,

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Speaker 2: but they do have permission, he said, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: And if you do shoot a deer, I would recommend

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Speaker 2: little bit of fission. Either from shore or still in

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Speaker 2: we'll be back right after this eighteen minutes after the

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Speaker 2: Saturday morning yep, coming at you until the eight o'clock hour.

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Speaker 2: In fact, one of our favorite guests is patiently waiting

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Speaker 2: for me to quit the appen and just bring him

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Speaker 2: on the air. So how do I do that? Tommy?

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Speaker 2: George joins us right now. Good morning, my friend.

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Speaker 4: Good morning Billy and Brett. And where where he's at?

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Speaker 4: Good morning to Pop.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't know where he's at.

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Speaker 4: You've said that before. It's going to be a good day.

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Speaker 2: Ay, that's good, I hope. So Tommy, are you still angling?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Yes, I am. I put the boat away. Well,

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Speaker 4: I shouldn't say that because, like I've told you before,

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Speaker 4: my boat is always ready to go. And I had

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Speaker 4: Like you said about cold water and stuff. Always oiler

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Speaker 4: life jacket and just to go slow with everything. You know,

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Speaker 4: you don't have to scream to your hot spots or anything.

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Speaker 4: But anyways, my boat's always ready. But I have been

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Speaker 4: fishing from shore lately now. The last time I was

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Speaker 4: I went out to our lake Cedar like overn in Wisconsin,

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Speaker 2: Well, speaking of nothing like it, Tommy, have you seen

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Speaker 4: You know, Billy, I kind of laughed when I heard

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Speaker 4: I know, it was so cold, Billy. I was in

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Speaker 4: You know, I sent you involved that little video, I

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Speaker 2: There's no way. Tell me, there's no way on God's

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Speaker 4: Right? But you know I've gone over there to see

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Speaker 2: I think about it often too, Buddy, I really would

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Speaker 2: Well, one of the things I'm wondering. You said that

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, whatever. Usually the water temperature is what you're feeling

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Speaker 2: And if it's not fun, and I don't care what

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Speaker 2: you're doing, Tommy, I said to Greg, who is here

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Speaker 2: Just make sure. And I've stole that the dads that

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Speaker 4: You're right, hundred percentage of it's let the kids enjoy

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Speaker 4: mean he'd start the car up. This is when you

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's what I told Eric too. And he's

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Speaker 2: I said, if if you don't make it fun, he's

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Speaker 4: It is that. It doesn't get any better than that,

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Speaker 4: And but I would always bring them on nice days

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Speaker 4: God bless him, he knows what he's doing with this

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Speaker 4: And you taught the guys, the kids well, and now

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Speaker 2: And that's got that's how you promote the sport, Tommy,

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Speaker 2: I'm and I don't care if it's hunting, fishing, camping,

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Speaker 2: if you just send them with a neighbor. And I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you got a lifelong partner now, Billy with little

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Speaker 2: You've got to I remember the kids used to tell

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Speaker 2: We're going to fire up the engine and we're going

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Speaker 5: But yeah, if you don't do it one.

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Speaker 4: And they I says, do you want to go fishing?

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Speaker 4: That's first thing I asked. They say, oh, we're going

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Speaker 4: But they've got their little favorite candy bars or whatever

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Speaker 4: it is. And sometimes the mothers don't like it because

431
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 4: of feeding them too much sugar. But it's just fine.

432
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 4: But I love taking the kids. I do, so I'll

433
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Speaker 4: always I always ask them sometimes if they like to go,

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Speaker 4: and nine of the time they do a billy unless

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Speaker 4: I've got some other commitments.

436
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just looking. I can't find it right away,

437
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: but I've got a video that I'll play for you

438
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: in the audience the one time when I can find it.

439
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: But it's it's kind of in my opinion anyway, is

440
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: kind of the epitome of a young man catching a

441
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Speaker 2: fish and the excitement that they have and captured it

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Speaker 2: on video. But I will I'll try to do that

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00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: maybe later in the program if I can during break,

444
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: I'll find it. But of course, when you're looking for something,

445
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: you can't find it right away.

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00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 5: But anyway, I got another one, you bet, Tommy.

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Speaker 2: I thank you for your time, buddy, and be sure

448
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Speaker 2: you'll let me know take a picture of the mermaid

449
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: if she shows up. Okay, I definitely will maybe get

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Speaker 2: an autograph.

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Speaker 4: And everybody, I hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving this year,

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Speaker 4: and I hope you're dumpling Steward soup turns on again.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Tommy, you take care, buddy. Happy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: That's Tommy George, pro angler Tommy George, and he is

456
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: a pretty special guy. I really really enjoy talking to him,

457
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: and I enjoy fishing with him a great deal too.

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Speaker 2: We will take a pause and mister Stan Tequila will

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Speaker 2: join us next Well, naturesmart dot com you can find

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Speaker 2: him and don't tell my grandkids, but we got him

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Speaker 2: something from Stan for Christmas. Uh huh, I'm thinking that way,

462
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: but you may want to too. It's pretty special. I've

463
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Speaker 2: already looked at the books by Stand that I've given

464
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: my kids, and they my grandkids. They are their favorites.

465
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: They're out laying on the floors or reading it. One

466
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: of them comes up and says, Papa, read to me,

467
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: read this, read this, so you'll enjoy it. We'll talk

468
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: a little bit about that with Stand too, but I'll

469
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: tell you what they're going to get if you promise

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Speaker 2: to keep it to yourself. Okay, All right after.

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Speaker 3: This, Welcome back to Fan Outdoors, joined now by author,

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Speaker 3: naturalist and photographer Stan Tequila. Whether it's in Minnesota, Alaska,

473
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 3: or Africa, he's always in search of all things wild

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Speaker 3: and natural. He may even know more about animals than

475
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Speaker 3: they do. Themselves, and you thought the cat knew the outdoors.

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Speaker 3: Here's fan favorite Stan Tequila on Fan Outdoors.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Stan, how are you sir?

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Speaker 5: Good morning? How are you doing today?

479
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: That intro has got to be the classicist the most.

480
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it is just stay at

481
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: It makes me smile every time it comes on. It's

482
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: so cool.

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00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, as you know, that was sprung on me.

485
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Speaker 6: I had no idea, but I sure like it.

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00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: I still I still think it'd be a great intro

487
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: when you go out and speak to a lot of

488
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: people and just come in with a a hawire and

489
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Speaker 2: just settle down there. There's like a bird coming back in.

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Speaker 6: Anyway, speak speaking of it, speaking of intros while while

491
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Speaker 6: giving presentations, I recently gave a presentation down in Florida

492
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Speaker 6: and yeah, last week and they I was at one

493
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Speaker 6: of it was an Audubond group down there, and they

494
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Speaker 6: had a eight year old, a third grader who was

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Speaker 6: a super fan of mine, who introduced me.

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Speaker 5: And it was one of the best introductions I've ever had.

497
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Speaker 5: It was absolutely one.

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Speaker 2: That's incredible. Stand that's awesome.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, it really was was. I've had quite a

500
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Speaker 6: bit of experiences. I do quite a bit of speaking

501
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 6: engagements all over the country and just uh, you know,

502
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 6: so you can imagine every time it's different, and this

503
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 6: is one of those times where.

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00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 5: It was like, wow, well that's never happened before.

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00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: Oh, good for you, man, that's cool. That's very cool.

506
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: So have you been out and about with uh, with

507
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: my nature lately.

508
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been.

509
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 6: Trying to get out as much as possible for the

510
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 6: white tail deer rut and it's it's been it's been good.

511
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 6: I've spending a lot of time trying to film doing

512
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 6: a video of white tails and their natural behaviors that

513
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 6: they do. So these are the males, you know, scraping

514
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 6: and rubbing and you know, just basically running about. And

515
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 6: so that's what I've been spending a lot of time

516
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 6: with it. And I got to tell you that every

517
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,959
Speaker 6: single time that I get within you know, uh, nose

518
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 6: distance of these big males that are running, the smell

519
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 6: is just such a it's such a unique smell. So

520
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 6: what's happening is the males are putting out a a

521
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 6: sent uh usually on their hind legs and this this

522
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 6: scent is it's like a musky, sweet smell that you

523
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 6: can smell from quite a distance, and that strikes me

524
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 6: every single time I'm out there and I uh, you know,

525
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,240
Speaker 6: I'm creeping through the woods trying to be as quiet

526
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 6: as possible and you know, trying to remain undercover and

527
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 6: all that, carrying about a gazillion pounds of camera gear

528
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 6: and so then I just you know, it's not easy.

529
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 6: But that that smell, then it's like it's almost satisfying.

530
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 5: That it's like, Okay, you got a good one.

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Speaker 6: You got to you know, you're you're near You're near

532
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 6: a male who's you know, really advertising for the girl,

533
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 6: and that's that's kind of fun.

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Speaker 2: Well, I've I do know the smell stand very well

535
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: because there's a gland in the back of the male's

536
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: leg when I have grabbed them to move them while hunting.

537
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 2: I only have done this once. I grabbed in the

538
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 2: wrong Yeah, that's a bad thing. Man. It stays with

539
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 2: you for a long time.

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00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 6: It's called the tarsisk gland. In this gland on the

541
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 6: males who are not really breeding much, h you don't

542
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 6: notice it as much. But when the males are, you know,

543
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 6: the real dominant males, it kind of leaks down its

544
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 6: leg and which technically it's it's foot, but let's we

545
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 6: don't have to get into that. And it stains it

546
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 6: really dark, almost black, and so that you know, when

547
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 6: you see that, you know, okay, this is a does

548
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 6: a hot mail. He's really he's really working for it.

549
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 6: And it's it's real satisfying when you find one like that.

550
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 6: Is the rut winding down now a.

551
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Speaker 2: Bit, do you think?

552
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 5: Well?

553
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 6: Which is an interesting thing that because so the females

554
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 6: are available for breeding only a matter of hours, you know,

555
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 6: so it's a very short narrow window of time. Uh,

556
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 6: And so for the females, the the rut, the you know,

557
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 6: the breeding time is definitely winding down. Males, on the

558
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 6: other hand, and that usually is sometime in November, early November.

559
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 6: The males back in October a full month before, are

560
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 6: already starting to rut, you know, starting to rut and

561
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 6: starting to really uh build up. You know, their nexts

562
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 6: are swollen, they're they're you know, not feeding as much,

563
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 6: and they're following their nose and they're going around. This

564
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 6: goes for quite a long period of time and it

565
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 6: goes through the first rut, and then any female that

566
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,919
Speaker 6: doesn't get bred in that narrow window of time during

567
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 6: the original rut. Time will come back into estrus about

568
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 6: twenty eight thirty days later, and so the males have

569
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 6: to be still ready to go, you know, for that

570
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 6: second round, which usually happens in December, and so they are.

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00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 6: The males really don't drop out of it very quickly.

572
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 6: In fact, they're they're they're you know, hopped up and

573
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 6: still going and still still looking around. They may not

574
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 6: be encountering the females because they're you know, they're wandering

575
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 6: around following their noses. And it's an amazing thing to

576
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 6: watch because they just they go around and if there's

577
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 6: a female you know, bedded down somewhere, he'll come up

578
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 6: and kind of approach, and as he approaches, the females

579
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 6: all get scared and you know, I can identify with that,

580
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 6: and they jump up and they go away, and then

581
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 6: he'll go over and smell where they were laying to

582
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 6: determine this case it you know, is this a viable

583
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 6: option or not. And then that when he smells like that,

584
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 6: that will determine if he moves on or starts hanging

585
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 6: around that female for a while. And so this goes

586
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 6: on for quite a long time, you know, well into December,

587
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 6: so while the major breeding activity has peaked and come,

588
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,479
Speaker 6: you know, come and gone, but the males are still

589
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 6: in that breeding condition.

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00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: With when you're trying. Hey, I've got this mental picture

591
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: of you loaded up with gear trying to sneak through

592
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 2: the woods, and that's that. Can't be hardy, can't be

593
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: a pretty thing. I'm just saying anyway, No, yeah, kN

594
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: are you really concerned about your scent? And does that

595
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: mean that you are going to be aware of the

596
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 2: wind and everything else or do you try to eliminate

597
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 2: your own scent if that's even possible.

598
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 6: I don't try to eliminate it, but I try to

599
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 6: stay downwind of, you know, where where the action is happening.

600
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 6: And as as I do that, then it kind of

601
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 6: gives me a little bit of an of an advantage.

602
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 5: Uh that way.

603
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 6: I also use a fairly long lens, and these are

604
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 6: large animals, so a five hundred millimeter lens can allow

605
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 6: me to be quite a ways away. That's why I

606
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 6: prefer areas where the deer are out in the open,

607
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 6: because if you're in the forest in the woods, the

608
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 6: further away you are, the more branches are between you

609
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 6: and the subject, and it becomes more difficult to capture

610
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 6: any video of that.

611
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, that's what I was because that's what I

612
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: was wondering about, because it's it's got to be a

613
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 2: difficult thing to do because their their nose is so

614
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 2: acute and they're so good at it and that's how

615
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 2: they live.

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00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 5: Well, it is, but it's also what's getting them in

617
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 5: trouble at this time of year because the males are

618
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 5: so yeah, they're so unifocused and you know, trying to

619
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 5: get the to accomplish what they're what they're trying to do,

620
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 5: and so they're really a little bit more easily approachable.

621
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Speaker 2: Then when those fonds come in the spring stand and mom.

622
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: The does are are aware of it because they're taking

623
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: care of their they're young. Are they more wary than

624
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 2: the bucks are?

625
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 6: I think the dose are always wary. They're always trying

626
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 6: to to be safe. And it seems to me, at

627
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 6: least my impression, and you know, of course, my human

628
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 6: mammalian impression of it is that is that there the

629
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 6: spring is an easier time for them. Food is abundant,

630
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 6: cover is abundant. They're busy trying to reproduce you know,

631
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 6: you know, give birth and uh and and you know,

632
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 6: and one of the things that a lot of people

633
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 6: don't understand is the amount of time that the females

634
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 6: spent away from their from their newly born you know,

635
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 6: doze uh they it is a you know, it almost

636
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 6: seems unnatural that they're that apart for that long because

637
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 6: like all day long, the babies are just laying there

638
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 6: by themselves, and the females know where to be found.

639
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 6: And then later on, you know, when it gets starts

640
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 6: to get dark, then she'll come around and call to

641
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 6: the to the young, and the fauns and the fawns

642
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 6: will come out and they'll uh, you know, kind of

643
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 6: get back together for the evening and for the night.

644
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 6: And we we look at that as abandonment, you know,

645
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 6: it's like, oh, my gosh, left this poor baby all

646
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 6: alone and ill, and when in fact, that's just that's

647
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 6: it's that's their survival technique, that's how they do this.

648
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 2: Well then oh my mind, I lost track.

649
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'm all, I'm all about that. Well, I

650
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 6: feel it, I feel you, I really do it all important.

651
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 6: I'm yeah, I'm I'm I'm right now. I'm packing to

652
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 6: get ready, I'm leading a photo to it down in

653
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 6: Costa Rica, and so I'm gonna be heading out here soon.

654
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 6: And man, I've been there several times, and I'm trying

655
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 6: to remember all the things I need to bring, and

656
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 6: I'm like, now, what the heck do I know? It's

657
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 6: been a challenge lately trying to figure out things and

658
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 6: get things going in the right direction. Yeah, sure, I

659
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 6: go mess things up and forget things.

660
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: I'll always forget things, and I remember things I should

661
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: have remembered before I'm planning. But with that, with the doze, oh,

662
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 2: I remember with the doze and birth because I've had

663
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: I haven't had, but my dogs have had litters of puppies,

664
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Speaker 2: and it seems there's there's sometimes there's one born that's

665
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 2: not very healthy, and I can't recall I think a

666
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: couple of times. No, I've done had a lot of it.

667
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: But I think that that once in a while there's

668
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: still still born too. But do animals like a white tail,

669
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: do they ever have difficulty giving birth or do well

670
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 2: they are that you're aware of that they will give

671
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 2: have problems with that with a young.

672
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Speaker 6: I think there's definitely that possibility of it, and those

673
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 6: would be uh, you know, when they when they have

674
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 6: complications during birth. That is all part of the survival

675
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 6: of the fittest, right uh, you know scenario that goes

676
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 6: on with these animals. And in the fact that it

677
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 6: is if they you know, if they can't reproduce readily

678
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 6: and with ease, uh, this is not going to you know,

679
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 6: bode well for their future.

680
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 5: So those are called out of the.

681
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 6: Herd right away, and it also opens them up to

682
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 6: more predators and such. And this is what keeps and

683
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 6: this is why we we need to get back to

684
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 6: understanding that the predator prey relationship is extremely important to

685
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 6: keeping right uh, these you know, these animals healthy and

686
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 6: keeping them you know, the breeding stock to be in

687
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 6: good shape and to weed out those types of errors

688
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 6: or malfunctions or whatever it may be, you know, during

689
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 6: during that those natural processes.

690
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 2: I just yeah, I just thought maybe and all of

691
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: your travels and things, you you would perhaps come across

692
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: something either in process or shortly thereafter. That's what I

693
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: was wondering about.

694
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 6: Yes, I've seen that plenty of times where the fawn

695
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 6: has still have the umbilicous hang from it, So it's

696
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 6: been you know, it's probably only twelve to twenty four

697
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 6: hours old or so, or forty eight hours old, and

698
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 6: you know those you know, that's what's so good about

699
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 6: nature is that in order for that individual to survive,

700
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 6: it has to have a certain set of skills and

701
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 6: be able to be strong enough to be able to

702
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 6: get up and move or hide or whatever it takes

703
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 6: to survive. And if it doesn't, then it doesn't survive.

704
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 6: And those genes are not passed on. The ones who've

705
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 6: got those skills are the ones that pass on the

706
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 6: genes and are you know, in triumph.

707
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: And I think that as humans, there aren't a lot

708
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: of people that keep that in mind as far as

709
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: the natural evolution and keeping the herd strong, that there's

710
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: they should be just like humans, or we should do

711
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 2: everything we can keep them alive and and such that

712
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 2: it just seems like we and I'll put myself in

713
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: there too. The empathy that we feel is not realistic

714
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 2: at times.

715
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, but yeah, I've been. I've been.

716
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, well it's normal to have that empathy, and

717
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 6: thank goodness we do because it would be a pretty harsh,

718
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 6: cold world without it, and.

719
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 5: At least the human existence would be so. But I've

720
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 5: been uh.

721
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 6: You know, I I've been known to say things like,

722
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 6: for example, now and then every couple of years, we

723
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 6: have somebody has a hummingbird who doesn't migrate and is

724
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 6: trying to eke out a living at somebody's feeder. And

725
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 6: somebody sees this, and you know, the compassion goes out

726
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 6: to them and they they you know, well into November,

727
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 6: they're heating up you know, bird nectar solution and providing

728
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 6: it to them, putting out heat lamps and you know,

729
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 6: you know, protecting this bird in order to trying to

730
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 6: catch it so that they could put it on an

731
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 6: airplane and you know, fly it down south and release it.

732
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 6: So that and my biological brain is saying to me

733
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 6: that there's clearly something wrong with this bird and it

734
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 6: shouldn't be it shouldn't be contributing to the genetics of

735
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 6: the future in the case that you know what I'm saying.

736
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 6: So it's like, well, I understand the heroics. I understand

737
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 6: that that that our desire to do that that makes

738
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 6: perfect sense to me. But on the other hand, I

739
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 6: also think, well, I mean, technically, if this bird didn't

740
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 6: have any human intervention, nature would take its course, and

741
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 6: you know, all would be right with the world.

742
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 5: Still.

743
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I get it. I do understand, Stan, we

744
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: have to take a pause. You're okay staying with us, Yes, sir, wonderful.

745
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 2: I have a question again when we come back that

746
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 2: just came to mind, but I wrote this one down

747
00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 2: so I won't forget. So we'll we'll make that pause

748
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: and we'll be back with part two of our conversation

749
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 2: with mister Stan Tequila. Find him at naturesmart dot com.

750
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: We'll be right back and four minutes after the hour

751
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: of seven o'clock on a fan outdoors Saturday morning, Billy

752
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 2: Hildebrand here our guest, mister Stan Tequila, and I want

753
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 2: to send a good morning shout out to and from Alec.

754
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 2: She is one of one of a very a group

755
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: of very ardent listeners listens every single Saturday morning. So

756
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 2: good morning, Anne, Stan. I said that I had something

757
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you. Well, I'm going to give

758
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: it up to one thing first, and that is my

759
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: grandkids are getting something new from Stand Tequila for this winter,

760
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: the Christmas holiday under the tree, and it is your

761
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: brand new game.

762
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 5: I hope I made a good decision. Oh yeah, oh

763
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 5: you'll like it and it's not annoying either.

764
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 6: You know, sometimes those things can be you know, And

765
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 6: this is a just as what you're talking about is

766
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 6: the Who's Butt.

767
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 5: Memory game card or card game, excuse me.

768
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 6: And it is a just a fun little thing for

769
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 6: young kids to be able to play a game with

770
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 6: an adult or with other kids. And it's just trying

771
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 6: to memorize the cards and which is really easy and

772
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 6: fun for kids to.

773
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 5: Do, really it is.

774
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 6: And yeah, and they just have a good time with it.

775
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 6: So this is available. You can go to my website

776
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 6: that Nature Smart Calm and then click in the bookstore.

777
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 6: You can find it there, and you have a choice,

778
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 6: by the way, when you get there, you can you

779
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 6: can either purchase from Amazon or you could purchase directly

780
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 6: from the publisher, and either one of them will take

781
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 6: care of you. I don't sell them directly myself. It's

782
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 6: just passes through my website.

783
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: I got I got mine from Amazon. And one of

784
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 2: the nice things I like about it because I've gotten

785
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: the kids so many of your books there. But there

786
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: will have be a list of what I have bought

787
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 2: because I at times I funny.

788
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I can't believe how many times I hear

789
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 6: that from people when I'm at you know, different events

790
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 6: and things.

791
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,439
Speaker 5: They said, you can't remember which books I have of yours. Yeah,

792
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 5: it's just it's a common thing.

793
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 2: But if they only had I think they only had

794
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 2: four or five lap that said there, and I don't

795
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 2: know if that's accurate either. I'm sure they can get more.

796
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, there was a time that they uh ran out.

797
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 6: They sold out of the first, uh first or second

798
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 6: printing of it, and so that I know they do.

799
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,919
Speaker 6: They did get a new uh print batch. I don't

800
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 6: know what you would call it, but a new shipment

801
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 6: of them. So everything should be back in stock.

802
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 5: And ready to go.

803
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 6: But I didn't. They don't let me know that stuff.

804
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 6: I just happened to hear about it. So well, again,

805
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 6: I'm just the author and creator of these things. I

806
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 6: don't understand. Thank god, I'm glad you do that. But

807
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 6: anything about the rest of it, Yeah, but the publisher

808
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 6: takes care about everything else.

809
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 2: So is there anything else in the works that are

810
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 2: similar to that?

811
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 6: Well not for not for the holiday season coming up.

812
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 6: If people like the Who's Butt book, I do have

813
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 6: the Whose Baby Butt, which is a smaller version and

814
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 6: has baby animal butts, in it. Uh, And people seem

815
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 6: to really like that, and then I do have.

816
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,280
Speaker 5: Uh.

817
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 6: One of my personal favorites is A Hidden Critter, and

818
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 6: it's a it's a book with large pictures of animals

819
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 6: kind of hidden inside the picture. I didn't they're not

820
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 6: photoshopped there, you know, there are actual pictures that I

821
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 6: took just the way they are, and we didn't you know,

822
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 6: alter the pictures or anything like that.

823
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 5: And so that's one of my favorites.

824
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 2: Also, I'm and then I'm chuckling stand because you're telling

825
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: I'm thinking to myself, I've got that. I got that.

826
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 6: Oh good, Yeah, And for you know what, for adults

827
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 6: who are interested in, you know, like an adult gift.

828
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 5: I always liked my Through the Seasons. It's it's it's

829
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 5: a book without pictures. It's a book all of my

830
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 5: writings of through an entire years, starting in the winter,

831
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 5: going through to the spring, summer, and fall, of different

832
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 5: adventures and different stories, highlighting different animals and things like that.

833
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: I don't know.

834
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 6: I think it's called a Year in Nature, and that's

835
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 6: one of my one of my favorites also. And it's

836
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 6: a quick and easy read, a couple hundred pages. And

837
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 6: I think people would like that. It's just a uh

838
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 6: you know, it's it's not a picture book, so don't.

839
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 5: Don't think it is. Yeah, I kind of disappointed.

840
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 2: I kind of like looking at pictures too, but yeah,

841
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 2: that's I wasn't aware of that, so I need to

842
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 2: look at that. I will look at that. But anyway,

843
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 2: I just I wanted to share that, but I uh,

844
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 2: they came yesterday and opened it up, and for some reason,

845
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 2: I was expecting a bigger box. I have no idea why,

846
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 2: but I think the other card memory things they come

847
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 2: in a box. Yeah, this is much more handy too.

848
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 2: I like that, well done.

849
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, kind of stocking stuffer size.

850
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was very nice. All right, back to

851
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 2: my question, Okay, go ahead.

852
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say, while people, if people do

853
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 6: stop by nature smart dot com, reminder that I've got

854
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 6: my new biweekly newsletter that people can sign up for.

855
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 5: It's free. It's just me, you just I don't sell

856
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 5: emails or anything like that, so it's just me. You'll

857
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 5: get an email once every two weeks which has my

858
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 5: blog and then has.

859
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,720
Speaker 6: Some advertisement for different trips or announcements of new books

860
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,600
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00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 6: smart dot com. Go ahead and sign up for the newsletter.

862
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 6: And then also I've got just a reminder every night

863
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 6: when it gets dark, I've got my flying squirrels on

864
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 6: on my live stream.

865
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 5: So you go to naturesmart dot.

866
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 6: Com and then go to the bottom of of the

867
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 6: opening page and you'll see the link there. And like

868
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 6: I said, every night at that time, the best time

869
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 6: to see the flying squirrels is right away, right at sunset,

870
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 6: because they come in and they hit those peanuts hard

871
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 6: and it goes for about two two and a half

872
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 6: hours and usually by nine o'clock or so, activities died down,

873
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 6: most of the peanuts are gone. I usually stop the

874
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 6: stream at that point. And so anyhow, something to check out.

875
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 6: And I did get installed my a camera on my

876
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 6: great horn owl nest, so keeping fingers crossed that this

877
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 6: winter because they great horn owls nest in January February March,

878
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 6: so this winter, if they start nesting, I will go

879
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 6: live with the stream to watch the nesting of the

880
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 6: great horn owls and that'll be a fun interesting thing.

881
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 6: So the camera's all installed, ready to ready to stream,

882
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 6: and we'll see how it goes.

883
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 2: How much work is that to put that together? Stand

884
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 2: quite a bit?

885
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, well, crazy amount of work. Really, well,

886
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 6: the technology is, you know, a little bit beyond me.

887
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 6: So I have my very good friend Tom helped me

888
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 6: out with all this stuff. He's a genius when it

889
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 6: comes to this stuff. And then the physical part. So

890
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 6: this nest is thirty feet up in a tree. I

891
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 6: had to put the camera at thirty five feet so,

892
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 6: and I'm not a young man. Climbing trees is not

893
00:55:55,880 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 6: my forte anymore. And so I rented a I rented

894
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 6: a lift to get up in there and install this

895
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 6: camera above the nest. And so that's not easy. And

896
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 6: I had to run about three hundred feet of Cat

897
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 6: five cabling, put it inside of a protective tube, and

898
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 6: then bury that underground. And yes, it's a lot of work.

899
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 6: So it's not easy. Believe me, it's not easy at all.

900
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 6: And I do I don't obviously, this is free. I

901
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 6: don't charge for anything like that. I just do it

902
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 6: because I love it. I love doing it.

903
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 5: I love sharing the nature, I love showing the you know,

904
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 5: cool things. You know. I love my flying squirrels.

905
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 6: And so it's one of those things where I just

906
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 6: enjoy this, and so that's why I do it.

907
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 2: Well, is it as difficult to install a camera in

908
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 2: a wood duck house?

909
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 6: Totally different type of camera. The cameras I'm dealing with

910
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 6: are large, very large, but size of a football maybe,

911
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 6: And they they tend to be a bit they're you know,

912
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 6: they're uh high high quality, weather proof, all that stuff.

913
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 2: You know.

914
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 6: They can be outside think of a like a think

915
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 6: of like a security camera for a large building or

916
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 6: something like that. You know, sometimes you see those types

917
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 6: of cameras hanging off of buildings all around. It's similar type,

918
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 6: similar type of thing like that. Now inside, when I'm

919
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 6: doing things like just monitoring myself, then I can use

920
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 6: the smaller camera like that can fit inside of a

921
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 6: duck box to use Wi Fi uh to uh you know,

922
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 6: move that image back to uh a computer. But when

923
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 6: you're doing livestream like this, you need things need to

924
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 6: be hardwired. They need to be uh, you know, pretty

925
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 6: rock solid so that they're not you know, dropping off

926
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 6: all the time. So there's a lot too. They stuff

927
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 6: a lot more than what you might think, a lot

928
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 6: more than I thought when I first started down this road.

929
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, is it if I'm thinking about putting a camera

930
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 2: in the wood duck house that I have that's occupied

931
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 2: pretty much every year now, because I see, yeah, I

932
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 2: think it would be fascinating for the grandkids to come

933
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 2: and just be able to look inside the house and

934
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: see what's happening.

935
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 6: And and well, you definitely want to do that. Yeah,

936
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 6: that that is definitely something you're going to want to do.

937
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 6: And that shouldn't be hard at all, depending on what

938
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 6: you do. Uh, there's a lot of small, very small

939
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 6: Wi Fi based cameras that the only issue there would

940
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 6: be getting power to it. So if you like, this

941
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 6: is in your backyard or something like that, and you

942
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 6: can reach an extension cord to it, because it doesn't

943
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 6: have to be there permanently, it can be there just

944
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 6: you know, for a month when the ducks are are nesting,

945
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 6: So you just run an extension court out there and

946
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 6: plug in that and then if your wife, hopefully your

947
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 6: WiFi reaches that far, then then you also have to

948
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:02,439
Speaker 6: go and you can have you can watch this now.

949
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 6: I personally use the Wise cameras wysee, I think it

950
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 6: is And you can purchase these at online or Amazon

951
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 6: or even home Depot has these things and they're really

952
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 6: inexpensive Wi Fi cameras that are well run about thirty

953
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 6: eight dollars or something like that. They used to be

954
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 6: a lot cheaper, but everything's going up in price, I

955
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 6: mean everything, And honestly, I just picked one up the

956
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 6: other day that is kind of blown my mind because

957
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 6: it was seventy dollars and it is solar powered, so

958
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 6: you don't have to worry about power. And it's a

959
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 6: PTZ camera, meaning that it will track and follow anything

960
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 6: that moves around, so it's just like and it's Wi Fi,

961
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 6: so then as long as your WiFi reaches to that area,

962
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 6: you're all set to go. So there's many many different

963
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 6: options out there in which you can do to you know,

964
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 6: kind of watch your wildlife in your own yard. And

965
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 6: people can email me if they want, and I can

966
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 6: give more information about that, uh you know, of which camera.

967
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 6: But this newest one is just kind of mind blowing,

968
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 6: and that it's I have another one that's also solar power,

969
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 6: and it has a battery on it, and you they

970
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 6: say you need to charge the battery once a year

971
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 6: and and then the solar power kind of keeps you

972
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 6: going the rest time. This new one I got, they

973
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 6: say just one hour of daylight a day is enough

974
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 6: to keep the camera going all year, no problem. So

975
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 6: and I'm thinking, wow, So I've got that and set

976
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 6: up right now, and I'm just starting to play with it,

977
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 6: trying to figure things out with it.

978
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 5: So it's it's just kind of a fun avenue.

979
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 2: And okay, I'm I'm pastime to take a break. Stand Okay,

980
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 2: I know we've got to do that. I don't I'll well,

981
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 2: I do want to, but I don't want to house that. Uh,

982
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: let's take a break and we'll come back, and you're

983
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 2: going to give us one more segment. You said today

984
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 2: so it was good to be wonderful. We will take

985
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 2: that pause and come back, and I've got a kind

986
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 2: of a pheasant question for stand next after this, man,

987
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 2: we're back pantoforas coming your way. But keep it right

988
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 2: here on the fan because Davey Sinecon follows us with

989
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 2: a one hour presentation before we jump into the Gophers

990
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 2: pregame shows right here on the fan, and the game

991
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 2: is at eleven o'clock. Correct, Yeah, wonderful. All right, Stan

992
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 2: Tequila is our guest. Find him at naturesmart dot com

993
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 2: and you can also go down to the bookstore, click

994
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 2: that and find who's but matching a may up you

995
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 2: can order or right there and kind of be like

996
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,919
Speaker 2: me that way, because I think the kids are gonna

997
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 2: love it. I know I am. I'm really looking forward.

998
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 2: Jack beats me. That beats the pants on me all

999
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 2: the time. So anyway, when it comes to this, Stan,

1000
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 2: I said, I had a kind of a pheasant question.

1001
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 2: I heard from my oldest son yesterday, who's out at

1002
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,479
Speaker 2: their least land hunting, and I said, I just texted

1003
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:25,919
Speaker 2: him and said, did you get any did you get

1004
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 2: any birds today? And he says, I saw all kinds

1005
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 2: of birds, but they all got up wild way ahead

1006
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 2: of me and the dog. And how come, Well you

1007
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 2: won't probably know how come, but we recognize that sometimes

1008
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 2: the pheasants anyway, I don't know about other birds, but

1009
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 2: there's something going on that has some very spooky getting

1010
01:02:55,520 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 2: up and flushing wild wilder than other days. And I

1011
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 2: wonder why that would be the case.

1012
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 6: Which you think it's kind of a sometimes the pheasants

1013
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 6: win and sometimes the hunters win.

1014
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, just that game, mate, if it was,

1015
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 5: if it was that easy, you know, to get them.

1016
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 5: I think the a lot of the allure would be out.

1017
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 6: Of uh, you know, activities like hunting and things like that,

1018
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 6: if it was just so darn easy all the time.

1019
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 2: Do you ever do you ever notice that they have

1020
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 2: different attitudes depending on a day.

1021
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely.

1022
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 6: Conditions are different every day too, you know everything, everything

1023
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 6: is different every time. And that's why whenever I hear

1024
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 6: people start, you know, lamenting about the good old days,

1025
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 6: you know, how it used to be and things like that.

1026
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 6: First of all, as people, we always you know, glorify

1027
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 6: those those those types those times, and when in fact

1028
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 6: they're probably not as good as we remember them.

1029
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 5: And then, uh, also, it always changed, is It's nature.

1030
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 5: Its nature is dynamic. Nature is always changing. Nature needs

1031
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 5: to change all the time, because if it doesn't, then

1032
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 5: you know, it'd be too. It wouldn't evolve, it wouldn't

1033
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 5: you know, become better over time.

1034
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 2: I do that though, stand when I'm I'm out in

1035
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 2: the field that I've been around all my life, and

1036
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 2: I will say to the boys when we're together, reminding

1037
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 2: them about what it used to look like and how

1038
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 2: the landscape has changed, and how the habitat is that

1039
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 2: it used to be there, it's no longer existing. And

1040
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 2: how it's so black where it used to have cattail

1041
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: slews and all kinds of other things. But I do

1042
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 2: lament about that they're good old days.

1043
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 6: I agree with you on that one, that the landscape

1044
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 6: is changing dramatically and it is not like how we

1045
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 6: remember it.

1046
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 5: And that is.

1047
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 6: You know, obviously due to human activity, and it's as

1048
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 6: long as we're as people are here doing things, that's

1049
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 6: going to continue. Yeah, So yeah, we just have to

1050
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 6: sort of work at trying to come up with some

1051
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 6: better solutions.

1052
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. I hope Mother Nature survives degradation, but yeah, I

1053
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 2: don't know what to do. I also got another text

1054
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 2: from Tommy George who asked. He said, his backyard he

1055
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 2: has just a couple of gray schools squirrels, but he's

1056
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 2: got an abundance of black squirrels. Now, oh nice. Yeah,

1057
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 2: I was thinking I don't have any kind of like

1058
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 2: we share. But the black squirrels is that genetic?

1059
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's an interesting thing. If you follow.

1060
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 6: My, uh my blog or my newspaper column. I just

1061
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 6: wrote about this about two weeks ago, and it is

1062
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 6: a genetic thing that occurs in So they're all Eastern

1063
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 6: gray squirrels, but they come in different colors, and one

1064
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 6: of the colors is a black morph or. I don't

1065
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 6: like the word morph because morph makes it sounds like

1066
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,919
Speaker 6: it's changing, but it's not. These squirrels are born black

1067
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 6: and they stay black with their entire lives. But it

1068
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 6: comes from the adults. So let's back up just really

1069
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 6: quickly here and hopefully we have enough time for this.

1070
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 6: I'll say the eastern gray squirrel. They looked at the genetics,

1071
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 6: and they looked at the gene that causes the black

1072
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 6: or the melanin that is produced to darken the fur

1073
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 6: of these squirrels. And it is the same gene that

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Speaker 6: came that is found in the fox squirrel. The fox squirrel,

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Speaker 6: are you familiar with this species. It's a large orangish

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Speaker 6: species is found out in farmlands and such like that. Apparently,

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Speaker 6: at some point thousands of years ago, a fox squirrel

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Speaker 6: made it with a gray squirrel, and this genetic, this

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Speaker 6: darker gene, was passed on and now it's moved through

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Speaker 6: the uh, you know, over thousands of years, it's moved

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Speaker 6: through the population of squirrels and things, and so now

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Speaker 6: it's found in the eastern gray squirrel. If the if

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Speaker 6: the Uh.

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Speaker 5: One of the adults has the black gene and the

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Speaker 5: other one doesn't. The offspring tend to be light light

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Speaker 5: gray or dark gray light black uh and are kind

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Speaker 5: of a not totally jet black. If both parents have

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Speaker 5: this gene, then uh you get these jet black uh

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Speaker 5: offspring that have sometimes have auburn colored tails to them.

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Speaker 5: So you have the variation in the amounts too. So

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Speaker 5: these squirrels, uh, they did studies on this and they

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Speaker 5: found some really interesting things. These squirrels are the black

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Speaker 5: ones have a slight advantage when in uh conor for

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Speaker 5: forests large conor for forests, the dark coloring helps them

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Speaker 5: to blend in and they are prey upon less pond

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Speaker 5: than the gray ones are. However, in the deciduous forests,

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Speaker 5: the trees with the leaves, it's just the opposite too.

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Speaker 5: So technically this all began in the northern forests where

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Speaker 5: northern confer forests. Now, if you look at the populations

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Speaker 5: of these black squirrels, they're found all over down to

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Speaker 5: Kansas and Missouri and things like that, and you got

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Speaker 5: to wonder, or not, how to heck did they get

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Speaker 5: down there. Turns out in eighteen hundreds, these black squirrels

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Speaker 5: were kind of a cool thing, and people were trapping

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Speaker 5: them and translocating them to different areas. Different universities wanted

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Speaker 5: them on their campuses and things like that, and so

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Speaker 5: they were brought all over the country, introduced all over

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Speaker 5: the country. And now we have populations of these black.

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Speaker 6: Squirrels all over the place, and you can see them,

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Speaker 6: just like I said, all over different places.

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Speaker 5: But they tend to be in pockets.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, The only place I've really seen a bunch

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Speaker 2: of them are up around the Niswa area, and sure,

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Speaker 2: sure I don't I saw one around the cabin this

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Speaker 2: last summer on somebody else's yard south of me, but

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Speaker 2: they never they don't make it up to my place.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how anyway, interesting, yeah, again, depending on

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Speaker 5: what type of habitat you're in, and you know, the

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Speaker 5: squirrels that have moved around. The up of Michigan is

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Speaker 5: an area that has a lot of black squirrels, and

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Speaker 5: that is an area with a lot of conferent trees

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Speaker 5: and and so you see a lot of those dark

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Speaker 5: squirrels up there too. If anybody's in Minneapolis, last time

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Speaker 5: I checked, it's been a few years, But last time

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Speaker 5: I checked. Loring Park was a great location for lots

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Speaker 5: of to see these black squirrels, and they come in

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Speaker 5: all sorts of different colors and color phases. And by

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Speaker 5: the way, if anybody does have these things in their

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Speaker 5: yard and uh sees them or feeds them on a

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Speaker 5: regular basis, I'm always looking for opportunities to capture different

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Speaker 5: colorations of these squirrels. So if some you know, some

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Speaker 5: of them have a whitehead or some different coloring to them,

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Speaker 5: I'm always looking to be able to capture these things,

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Speaker 5: document these different color phases of these of these eastern

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Speaker 5: gray squirrels. Nature smart dot com. You'll find it there.

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Speaker 2: You go, come on, Tommy, give stand a call. You'll

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Speaker 2: find out if you've got a bunch. But anyway, yeah,

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Speaker 2: well well then is it possible then for a gray

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Speaker 2: squirrel and a fox squirrel to breed.

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Speaker 5: It is, but it's not. It's not very common. They

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Speaker 5: say it happened.

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Speaker 6: Uh, it's happened in the past, you know, obviously could

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Speaker 6: possibly happen in the future.

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Speaker 5: So uh, but they're they're different.

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Speaker 6: Species, and so uh that that hybridization of them uh

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Speaker 6: sometimes and oftentimes does not produce viable offspring. Offspring that

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Speaker 6: have the ability to reproduce themselves too. So nature is

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Speaker 6: a very interesting thing, and we've talked about this in

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Speaker 6: the past to like, for example, the in Yellowstone, over

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Speaker 6: sixty percent of the wolves in Yellowstone are black, and

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Speaker 6: they've again been able to isolate these genes and figure

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Speaker 6: out where it came from. And this actually came from

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Speaker 6: the dark coloring came from a wolf interbreeding with a

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Speaker 6: dog thousands and thousands of years ago. So people, obviously

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Speaker 6: dogs came from wolves, People's and bread, all these things,

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Speaker 6: different types of breeds of dogs with different colorings to them,

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Speaker 6: and then at some point it went back the dog

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Speaker 6: went back to the wolf. There was an interbreeding introduced

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Speaker 6: that black gene, and now it is found in different

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Speaker 6: pockets throughout the United States. Here in Minnesota, by the way,

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Speaker 6: I think it's less than five percent of our wolves

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Speaker 6: are black, so we don't have a lot like that,

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Speaker 6: unlike Yellowstone, where you know, sixty percent of them are black.

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Speaker 6: It's an interesting thing to see. Some studies show that

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Speaker 6: the black coloring gives the wolves an advantage when it

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Speaker 6: comes to things like uh mites, these little you know,

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Speaker 6: it's called mange that and it helps them that way.

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Speaker 6: So there's all sorts of different things you can uh,

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Speaker 6: you know, kind of read into these things once you

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Speaker 6: start getting the bigger picture.

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Speaker 2: When you're talking about bigger picture, when do you leave

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Speaker 2: for your next travels?

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Speaker 5: Heading out this week, heading to Costa Rica. I've got

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Speaker 5: a group of photographers taken. We're going to be photographing

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Speaker 5: birds and you know, just about anywhile. If of course,

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Speaker 5: Costa Rica is a wonderful place to uh see of

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Speaker 5: you know, huge diversity and the you know, the rainforest

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Speaker 5: is always a uh, you know, such a hot spot

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Speaker 5: for all sorts of different animals. But I'm really looking

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Speaker 5: forward to it, looking forward to being able to you know,

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Speaker 5: it's so green and lush and be able to see

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Speaker 5: that again. And it's always it's something I'm always happy

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Speaker 5: to uh to see and and uh and and go to.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 6: I recently went to Ecuador, and Ecuador is now quickly

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Speaker 6: becoming one of my favorite places to Costa Rica used

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01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 6: to be like one of my top places. Now I'm like, wow,

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Speaker 6: this Ecuador is pretty amazing too, So uh, get out

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Speaker 6: there and see a few things.

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Speaker 2: People does the uh that area does it afford an

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Speaker 2: opportunity for any of the North American birds to winter.

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Speaker 5: Oh absolutely, yeah, without a doubt. And uh yeah.

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Speaker 6: When you go down there, you see all sorts of

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Speaker 6: things like, for example, you see Baltimore orioles, You see

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Speaker 6: all the warbler species that we have here too. And

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Speaker 6: by the way, when they're there, they call them their birds, yeah,

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Speaker 6: and when they're here, we call them our birds. And

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Speaker 6: the big difference there though, is that when they're down

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Speaker 6: in the tropics for the winter time, they're not breeding again.

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Speaker 6: They are they're you know, wintering, They're they're resting and

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Speaker 6: feeding and getting ready for the breeding seas and again

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Speaker 6: in the spring. So that should tell you that our

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Speaker 6: habitats in our own backyards is extremely important to all

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Speaker 6: of these birds. Whether your yard is a stopover area

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Speaker 6: on the way north, or if it's a place where

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Speaker 6: the orioles or the warblers are hummingbirds are nesting, that

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Speaker 6: is critical habitat for them because they have no other place.

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Speaker 6: They don't turn around, go down south, breed again, and

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Speaker 6: everything's fine and dandy in the world.

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Speaker 5: It's not. They only have the one shot at it

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Speaker 5: when they come back up here to the Northern States

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Speaker 5: to be able to breed.

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Speaker 2: Is the plumage the same as when they left here

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Speaker 2: and the breeding plumage is much more, much brighter and

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Speaker 2: more distinct or is it?

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Speaker 5: Depending depends on the species. It depends on the species.

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Speaker 6: Some of them have are in winter plumage when they are,

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Speaker 6: you know, in the tropics for the wintertime. But later on,

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Speaker 6: you know, storage February and March, they're going to be

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Speaker 6: back in their breeding plumage and the be heading out

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Speaker 6: and moving north, and so you can see them in

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Speaker 6: their full breeding plume too. Other species look just like

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Speaker 6: they normally would. So it's uh, you know that all

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Speaker 6: depends on the species.

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Speaker 2: And you have when you get down there, you're going

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Speaker 2: to have some unique species of birds too, correct.

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Speaker 6: Oh, gosh, hundreds thousands species, hundreds of there's so many

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Speaker 6: different species that are unique to the tropics. That are

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Speaker 6: all the two cans, you know, the you can imagine

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Speaker 6: when the two cannon is with those big long bills

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Speaker 6: on them, different colored bills. You got all the parrots,

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Speaker 6: the macaws, You've got a million tannagers. Oh, so many

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Speaker 6: tannager species. It's just crazy how many there are. And

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Speaker 6: there's we have one species of hummingbird, I think there's

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Speaker 6: eighty species in uh just in Costa Rica alone, So

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Speaker 6: there's It's yeah, it's a bit mind spinning. Mind like that.

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Speaker 6: If people are interested in doing a photo tour with me,

1238
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 6: but again nature smart dot com, go to the a

1239
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 6: photo tour tab and you can see I've got trips

1240
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Speaker 6: coming up. I got a trip coming up to Ecuador

1241
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 6: and a trip to Costa Rica that you can sign

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01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 6: up for.

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Speaker 5: Plus I've got a lot of local things.

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01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 6: You could do too, so you can check out your

1245
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 6: you know, have an adventure, go out and do this.

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01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 6: And by the way, I think I'm putting together, it's happening.

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01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 6: I've got it on the website. It's slowly coming together.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to be doing another trip to the Glopagos

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Speaker 6: in twenty twenty eight. This is a trip where if

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01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 6: you've ever won, if it's been a bucket list trip

1251
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:33,879
Speaker 6: of yours that you've always wanted to go to glocost

1252
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 6: you don't need to be a big time photographer or

1253
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 6: anything like that. You can just go and and join.

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01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 6: In fact, I'd say about half the people went on

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Speaker 6: my last trip to the Glopicos that they weren't a

1256
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Speaker 6: photographer at all, but it's a bucket list trip for them,

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Speaker 6: and that is that is a trip that people absolutely love.

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Speaker 6: It is such a first class We're on a boat

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Speaker 6: for eight days in the Glopagos. It is stunning and

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Speaker 6: it's one of those if it's like I said, if

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Speaker 6: it's always been on your bucket list trip, this would

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Speaker 6: be this would be the trip for you to sign

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01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 6: up for because it is so good. Gourmet meals every night,

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01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:10,440
Speaker 6: you know, just everything is unbelievable.

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01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm so hungry right now. I got just

1266
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 2: threw on my finger.

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Speaker 5: I'm how is it just throwing that out there for

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Speaker 5: people to consider it.

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Speaker 2: And I've got a number of comments I'm looking at

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Speaker 2: about black squirrels, but one of them kind of sticks

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Speaker 2: out and we do have to go to break in

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Speaker 2: a moment. But how important somebody wants to know? How

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Speaker 2: important is a squirrel's tale to what they do and

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Speaker 2: how they live?

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Speaker 6: The squirrels tale is extremely important to it overall health.

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01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 5: It uses it. By the way, the species the.

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Speaker 6: Genus name, no the species name because it's squirrets anyhow,

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01:17:56,520 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 6: the translation for its genus and species names means lives

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Speaker 6: in the shadow of a tail, and that's exactly what

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Speaker 6: it is, because the tail does curl up over the

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01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 6: squirrel and you know, kind of provides its shade, if

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01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 6: you will, not not for anything biological that we can

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01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 6: think of, but it's just an observation. And that's how

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Speaker 6: it's got its name. Uh, it's a it's a genus

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01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 6: and species name. And and so the tail is extremely

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01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 6: important to it. They use it for warmth, they use

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01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,640
Speaker 6: it for balance because look at these guys are acrobats

1288
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 6: when they're jumping and running along branches, and they don't

1289
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 6: occasionally they do fall, but they don't usually fall off branches.

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01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 6: They jump, you know, great distances, and the tail is

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01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 6: does everything for them. So the tail is extremely important.

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01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 6: You wouldn't have a big fluffy tail like that if

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01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 6: it wasn't extremely important, you know, to the to your

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01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 6: overall survival.

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01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 2: And he also says that or she and he has

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01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 2: a they have a tailless squirrel running around uh for

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01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 2: way longer he says, than I ever thought possible.

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01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh, it definitely happens. And also albino squirrels too,

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01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 6: the all white ones with pink eyes. That's another condition

1300
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 6: that occurs. And you can see that in these squirrels.

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01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 6: I would love to be able to someday do a

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01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 6: book just on squirrels, because I think they're absolutely amazing.

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01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 6: We have so many species of tree squirrel and so

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01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 6: many species of ground squirrels that it would be it

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01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 6: would be so cool to, you know, kind of be

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01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 6: able to compile everything into one area where you can

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01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 6: learn all about the different types of squirrels that we

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01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:28,679
Speaker 6: have in the United States.

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Speaker 2: Stan, I thank you, my friend, and safe travels to

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01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,679
Speaker 2: you and enjoy your trip. I'll look forward to chatting

1311
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 2: with you on your return, my friend.

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01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 5: All right, sounds good. Talk to you.

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01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 2: That's the Stan Tequila naturesmart dot com. We'll take a

1314
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 2: pause and it'll be me that's back right after this,

1315
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 2: and I'll probably start our conversation with what it's like

1316
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,560
Speaker 2: for a youngster to catch one of his first fish.

1317
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 2: I'll give you the audio of it on my return

1318
01:19:56,360 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 2: right after this. We're back. Last segment, yepe before in

1319
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 2: the zone, so keep it here, okay. You know I

1320
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 2: said earlier we were talking with Tommy George, and I

1321
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 2: said that I was looking for the audio or the

1322
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 2: video of my camera of my grandson and granddaughter and

1323
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 2: some first fish from last summer and how excited kids

1324
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 2: are when they do catch that. Well, this is a

1325
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 2: very short snippet of audio only, and I have the

1326
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 2: video which is classic. It's so awesome, but I will

1327
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 2: share it with you and then we'll talk a little

1328
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 2: bit more about deep frying eeyore a turkey. Right after this,

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01:20:49,960 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 2: Jack and Ava Hildebrand out fishing. That's good, isn't it.

1330
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened. Well, yeah, huh, I've done

1331
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,720
Speaker 2: something to it. Well, we'll see if I can get

1332
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 2: that at a later date. It must be something because

1333
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 2: I just listened to it earlier anyway, So you're going

1334
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:30,879
Speaker 2: to describe it. And he just really he's really excited,

1335
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 2: and he says, oh yeah, baby, yeah, baby, get the net.

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01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 1: Get the net.

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01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 2: And uh, it's just a little sunfish. But that's how

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01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 2: Ava is being encouraged to keep real and keep realing,

1339
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 2: keep realing. Jack gets this little sunfish and day slaps

1340
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 2: it on the side of the pontoon and we get

1341
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 2: it in the boat. He drops his rod and comes over.

1342
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 2: He wants to hold it. So that's kind of where

1343
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 2: it is. But I will see what happened to it

1344
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 2: and hopefully and give you the excitement that they hear,

1345
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 2: that they feel, and you can feel it too. We

1346
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 2: talked about defrying a turkey. You are going to see

1347
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 2: here tales of wool on TV coming up, and I

1348
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 2: can tell you it's not like that. It isn't, not

1349
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 2: at all. The only thing I would stick to a

1350
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 2: fourteen yeah, around fourteen maybe give or take a pound

1351
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 2: size turkey. And it's my turkey is out in the

1352
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 2: fridge right now, falling for Thursday. So you want it

1353
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 2: to be well thought out, and you want it to

1354
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:39,639
Speaker 2: be dried out. Now you can brain it if you want,

1355
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 2: but be sure it's dry because you're going to put

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01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 2: it in boiling oil. And so let's say you've got

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01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 2: a thought out turkey. You've dried it best you can.

1358
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 2: And I always inject mine with a Cajun creole butter

1359
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 2: and inject it with a syringe. And it's usually a

1360
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 2: couple times in the thigh and the leg, and then

1361
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 2: a couple times, probably three or four times across up

1362
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 2: on the breast, and that's about it. So you've got

1363
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 2: a deep fryer, a pot, and a source of heat,

1364
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 2: and usually it's a propane source of heat, so you

1365
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 2: heat the oil up first, and you know, just heat

1366
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 2: it up, and you need a thermometer that's going to

1367
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 2: go in the oil to tell you the temperature because

1368
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 2: you want to maintain it. And usually I'll use a

1369
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 2: three gallon box of deep fry oil and I get

1370
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:47,160
Speaker 2: mined at Fleet Farm and it's about thirty nine bucks,

1371
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 2: but you can use it a few times to just

1372
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 2: have to take it out and leave the junk when

1373
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 2: it dries on the bottom of the pot and discard that.

1374
01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 2: So you're going to turn your pot on and heat

1375
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 2: the oil up to three hundred and fifty degrees and

1376
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 2: take the weight of your turkey times three and one

1377
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 2: half minutes, and that's how long it's going to take

1378
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 2: to deep fry your bird, and it's usually around forty

1379
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 2: to fifty minutes, depending on the size. Three and a

1380
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:26,639
Speaker 2: half minutes a pound. Get your oil to three point

1381
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 2: fifty and when you put the bird in, it's going

1382
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 2: to drop, but it'll come back okay, So just leave it.

1383
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 2: Don't panic if the oil the temperature drops way out.

1384
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 2: So oil is heated and I always put some some

1385
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:46,480
Speaker 2: cardboard down underneath it. I do mine in my driveway

1386
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 2: and the biggest thing about this. Where people really screw

1387
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 2: up is they put the bird of the oil and

1388
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 2: walk away and they're going to come back in forty

1389
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 2: one minutes. Check it. No, stay with your bird. Okay,

1390
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 2: stay with it. If you're not sure how much oil

1391
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:12,799
Speaker 2: before you get it in there at all, put water

1392
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 2: in it. Take three gallons of water and put it

1393
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 2: in the pot. Drop your bird in it to be

1394
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 2: sure there's enough oil to cover it, or get close

1395
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 2: to covering your bird and not spilling over all. Right,

1396
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 2: Be sure you do that, and then you just have

1397
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 2: to dry the bird out, dump the water out, dry

1398
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:37,639
Speaker 2: it out, and you're ready to go for the oil

1399
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 2: to go in that way, when you put your bird in,

1400
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:44,719
Speaker 2: you're going to have a carrier that comes with the pot.

1401
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 2: Usually I've got a bucket with holes in it. I

1402
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,000
Speaker 2: put the bird in, take a crook or a hook,

1403
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 2: and put it in the oil slowly, really really slowly,

1404
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 2: so to wear a mit because it's going to be

1405
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 2: hot right there. Not going to put your hand in

1406
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 2: the oil, but just drop it in slowly. Once you

1407
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:10,759
Speaker 2: get it down, it should boil and boil and boil,

1408
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:14,680
Speaker 2: and it's going to be cooking your bird. When the

1409
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 2: time is up. Whatever it is three and a half

1410
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 2: minutes a pound, and that time is up. Take the

1411
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 2: bird out, Lift the bird out slowly, Let it drain.

1412
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 2: Turn the heat off of your oil. Don't forget that.

1413
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 2: Turn the heat off of the oil. Let it drain.

1414
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 2: And I take mine inside on a cookie sheet. Leave

1415
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 2: it right on. If it's in a pot, or if

1416
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,599
Speaker 2: it's just on a hangar, put it on a cookie sheet.

1417
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 2: Take it in and let it rest. Let everything rests

1418
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 2: for a while. Then carve your turkey. And for me

1419
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:59,719
Speaker 2: and our family, it is the best turkey I have had.

1420
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 2: It's incredible tasting, it's moist, and it's wonderful. In fact,

1421
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 2: my youngest son is deep frying a turkey today for

1422
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 2: his neighbor who just can't believe how good it is.

1423
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 2: And Chad is going to show him and they'll be

1424
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 2: doing it on their own this afternoon. So that's easy.

1425
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 2: It's not a stress, and it's not a strain. Your

1426
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 2: bird will be awesome, promise. I did it once for

1427
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 2: my mother in law when she was still alive, and

1428
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 2: it was so good I was crowned king of doing

1429
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 2: it every year from then on. Plus it was easy

1430
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 2: and she didn't have to worry about it either, which

1431
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 2: is the other thing too. But it is easy, and

1432
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 2: then I'll put it away kind of a mess, not

1433
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 2: a mess. Kind of something I hate is pouring the

1434
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 2: oil back once it cools off, leaving the junk in

1435
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 2: the bottom, cleaning it up. But honest to gosh, the

1436
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 2: taste of the bird is so good. I guarantee if

1437
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 2: you try it, you will enjoy it. And it's not

1438
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:16,440
Speaker 2: doom and gloom like they're going to tell you on television.

1439
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 2: Be sure you stay with a bird, don't leave it,

1440
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 2: And if you don't know how much to put in it,

1441
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 2: do the water thing with your particular bird first and

1442
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 2: then you'll have an idea. Just be sure it doesn't

1443
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 2: boil over, might spit a little bit, but be sure

1444
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 2: it doesn't come flowing out of the pot. That's crucial

1445
01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 2: and important. Okay, Well, it is Thanksgiving and it is

1446
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 2: the weekend, and for a lot of people it's going

1447
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 2: to be some hunting later that weekend, perhaps the next day,

1448
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 2: maybe Saturday. But one of the things we found Chad

1449
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 2: found out last week just because you see a wildlife area,

1450
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 2: public hunting area, waterfall production area near a tired road.

1451
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 2: I've always thought, but somebody here on this program once said,

1452
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 2: and he remo remembered it. Oftentimes people drive right bay

1453
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:18,639
Speaker 2: that they think everybody is hunting it. He stopped last

1454
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 2: week last Sunday, fifteen minutes and he got his two

1455
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 2: bird limit and a stranger went on the other side

1456
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 2: of it. He shot his two bird limit too. So

1457
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 2: the music playing, which means we're out of here. Keep

1458
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 2: that in mind if you're looking for a place to

1459
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 2: hunt over the weekend too. Okay, I want to say

1460
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:44,680
Speaker 2: thank you to Tommy George for joining us, Thanks to

1461
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 2: Stan Tequila. I want to say a hearty thanks to

1462
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 2: my producer, extraordinary mister Brett Blakemore. I'm Billy Hildebrand. Have

1463
01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:01,560
Speaker 2: a fantastic weekend and a great Thanksgiving. We'll see you

1464
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 2: next Saturday. Till then in the zone, Tata m HM.