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Speaker 2: No sholl peper saw it plan, so learn.

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Speaker 1: A scar approach will fail. It's time for common man,

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Speaker 2: Charge the housework was like going.

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Speaker 1: Can what a shoot? Where we play? That's nonsense, objectivy man.

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Speaker 1: It's time for common.

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, why should anybody aspire to be a common man?

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Speaker 3: An average man? Do you realize what it means to

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Speaker 3: and the lousiest of the best. Now, if we demand

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Speaker 3: more and more for producing lesson less, while the have

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Speaker 3: and maximum effort, if we deify the common man while

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Speaker 3: they encourage and reward the uncommon one, well, the end

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Speaker 3: result of such a lopsided race as that is too

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's like, hello, wait, don't young man?

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Speaker 1: Is a cold blooded connection.

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Speaker 4: You know sometimes when you practice, you'll set up chairs

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Speaker 4: when your run through chairs just to show zones set

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Speaker 4: by some defense to tagas chairs. All the defensive backs

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Speaker 4: covering are just approchous today for Minnesota baking.

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Speaker 5: Here maybe closer than they appear.

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Speaker 1: Camn Dancer, what are you doing. Let's go. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: say some conversation that you boy well Birsac, just see.

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Speaker 6: You, yap.

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Speaker 1: I'm un limited, mister unlimited, Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay. What

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Pay you doubted us? But now ahead, I'm a fraud.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he's the clown from Brown. He's the fourth in

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Speaker 2: the north. This is the common man, dan Cole.

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Speaker 6: The heck, haven't I doubt it over the years? A

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Speaker 6: little doubt here, and a little doubt there, here, doubt there,

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Speaker 6: good afternoon, and ak akadacadac daca act you in yours.

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Speaker 1: I'm a common man, dan Cole.

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Speaker 6: Keys tend to be he to me what Tanto was

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Speaker 6: to the lone range for a faithful companion. I'm a

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Speaker 6: radio dinosaur. The fan is my libre of tar pits.

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Speaker 6: Someday archaeologists and paleontologists will be sifting through the rubble

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Speaker 6: that is sixteen hundred you ac Avenue South will stumble

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Speaker 6: across my skeletal remains in my cold dead fossilized lips

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Speaker 6: attached this Norman BC. I'm one of four Michcrophone and

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Speaker 6: mill sake. This guy, I think he was probably a

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Speaker 6: the olden days and microphone. We're here until three. The

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Speaker 6: New bit to introduce tenneby, a regular listener of the

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Speaker 6: Grum who's actually a friend of mine. He says, anytime

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Speaker 6: Rosen says something astonishing, he writes it down. And now

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Speaker 6: he's starting to see me. He's given me two today

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Speaker 6: I don't know what we could call it, you know,

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Speaker 6: Football is the only sport I watch now on television.

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Speaker 6: watch last night's National Championship, GameStar, I did dose off

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Speaker 6: Indiana wins the NATTI sixteen tenn Toby, that's first team

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Speaker 6: In Iowa, you can't do it in You can't you

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Speaker 6: It was a really good football game last night, and

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Speaker 6: Did you watch any of the game? Tenabe did you

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Speaker 1: I was watching the Wild Game, Okay, I did watch.

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Speaker 6: To be national champion Indiana Hoosiers, had his field goal

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Speaker 1: But we know the math. You know, if you kick

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Speaker 6: it when you have the best player in college football,

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Speaker 6: because that's what the Heisman Trophy wants. He's the best

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Speaker 6: and look it worked out. They won the Natty. They're

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Speaker 6: But I still think, to me, it's kind of a contradiction.

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Speaker 6: And it wasn't like, well, he was such a really

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Speaker 6: Winning the Heisman hesured the best player in college football.

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Speaker 1: But it didn't work.

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Speaker 6: It worked out Miami went down the field that threw

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Speaker 6: But that's I just I found that odd that he was,

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Speaker 1: But you know, all's well, it ends well. I do

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Speaker 1: know there would have been.

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Speaker 6: Questions had Miami tied the game there went on to

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Speaker 6: By the way, I see text coming into the Paul

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Speaker 6: my Miami tied that game or scored a tuddy and

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Speaker 6: Not only did it change the outcome of the game

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so they he may have gotten you know, they

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's why those narratives where you make conclusions

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Speaker 1: Why did people.

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Speaker 6: Why did so many people in this in this town

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Speaker 6: dislike Sam Darnald.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. He played well he was while he

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Speaker 5: was here. He didn't do anything that should have been

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Speaker 5: a he I think he probably wanted to return. He did,

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Speaker 5: but he got a much more lucrative offer somewhere else.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well they didn't advice. Vikings didn't want to match it.

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Speaker 6: That was the thing. They didn't want him. It was

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Speaker 6: more in the Vikings. I'm sure Sam would have stayed here.

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Speaker 6: The Vikings made him an offer he couldn't refuse. Sue

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Speaker 6: Ann's at it. Jim, Sue and his team commens Fisher

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Speaker 6: Factory West had I loved Jim does great work. He

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Speaker 6: has His piece today was five thoughts on the NFL

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Speaker 6: Playoffs in the Vikings after the divisional round. Here's what

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Speaker 6: he writes. A segment of the Vikings fan base will

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Speaker 6: scream about Darnald making it to the NFC CHAMPI your

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Speaker 6: game of the Seahawks. That's why you need to watch

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Speaker 6: the games, not just the scoreboard. Donald's not played well

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Speaker 6: as of late. He threw for one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 6: four yards and Seattle's forty one six Division round victory

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Speaker 6: on January seventeen over the forty nine ers over forty hours,

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Speaker 6: teams shredded by injuries. He ran for zero yards. He

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Speaker 6: was playing with an oblique straight and had every reason

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Speaker 6: to be cautious. He's also played for a team that

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Speaker 6: doesn't always need the forward pass to win. The Vikings

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Speaker 6: let Donald lead because he looked over matching the two

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Speaker 6: biggest games of his career last season. Donald played well

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Speaker 6: for a couple of months for Seattle, but over the

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Speaker 6: last month or two he's become more of a game manager.

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Speaker 6: Bikes needed to win games are driving their passing attacks.

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Speaker 6: Seattle just needs him not to make mistakes. Donald made

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Speaker 6: the best decision of anyone in the free edge of market.

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Speaker 6: He picked a powerhouse team that can win even when

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Speaker 6: he doesn't play well. Yeah, Sam made a great decision.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure he's very happy with where he's been. I

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Speaker 6: just think there are people that are into it goes

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Speaker 6: back to unless you have the gaudy, flashy stats, the

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Speaker 6: fantasy football stuff, quarterback isn't any good. That's why I'll

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Speaker 6: take Eli Manning every single time in a big game,

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Speaker 6: every single time Eli Manning doesn't have the flashy stats.

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Speaker 6: Tend to me you're amongst the many people that don't

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Speaker 6: think his complete body of work is worthy of being

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Speaker 6: in the Hall of Fame. And you can make that argument,

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Speaker 6: and probably if you compare it to all the other

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Speaker 6: quarterbacks in the in the Hall of Fame, his numbers don't.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a five hundred quarterback overall.

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Speaker 6: But all I know is I take Eli Manning on

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Speaker 6: my team playing quarterback in the playoffs or in a

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Speaker 6: big or in the big game. He's two and zero

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Speaker 6: in big games last I check. I mean, what more

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Speaker 6: do you want from a guy? You're right, Darnold isn't

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Speaker 6: asked to do as much, but he I think some

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Speaker 6: people are, well, that's what I think. I think there

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Speaker 6: are some people that aren't watching the games because they

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Speaker 6: only look at the gaudy status or did he run

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Speaker 6: for any yards?

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Speaker 1: If you watch the San fran game.

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Speaker 6: He made some big throws in the San Fran game

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Speaker 6: when they when they when when they beat San Fran

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Speaker 6: a couple of weeks ago, in the Pivotal game, he

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Speaker 6: made some brilliant throws in that game. I don't know

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Speaker 6: why everybody's and you know what, I realize, Sam as

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Speaker 6: a guy, he's not the best quarterback in the league.

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Speaker 6: Against the Rams, he might end up costing them the

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Speaker 6: game with a bad throw. You got to take the

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Speaker 6: good with the band with a guy like Sam Darnald.

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Speaker 6: But people want to point to those two games, and

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Speaker 6: let's face it, the Rams game was more with the

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Speaker 6: Vikings offensive line than it was with Sam Donald. The

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Speaker 6: Lions game was on Darnald. I get that, But isn't

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Speaker 6: a guy in as big as moment as any He'd

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Speaker 6: never been there before. It is his first great is

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Speaker 6: so if any quarterback that has a that lays an

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Speaker 6: egg or has a bad performance in his first ever

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Speaker 6: really big game, are we just going to dismiss him forever?

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Speaker 6: You wouldn't dismissed Caleb Williams after last year, is what

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Speaker 6: you would have done. Did you see how bad he

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Speaker 6: was last year? Nobody took more sacks he was indecisive.

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Speaker 1: He did.

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Speaker 6: He looked lost out there. Better get rid of him. Okay,

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Speaker 6: that's what you want to do. I think Seattle is

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Speaker 6: excited and delighted to have Sam Donald. They're in the

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Speaker 6: NFC Championship game. The Vikings ain't. I don't know what

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Speaker 6: more he needs.

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Speaker 5: Also love that he used Sam stats against They just

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Speaker 5: play San Francisco. Yeah, what the one hundred and some

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Speaker 5: yards passing, zero yards rushing, as if that was a

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Speaker 5: negative against him? Right, I'm gonna try to do a

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Speaker 5: hockey analogy all heck, let's let's do a golf analogy.

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Speaker 1: Let's do a golf I understand thet Let's say you

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Speaker 1: and I are.

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Speaker 5: Playing one on one and there's a lot on the line,

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Speaker 5: and we're down to the hiking rights on the air.

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Speaker 6: That's a lot.

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Speaker 5: We're down to the final hole. We're on the eighteenth hole.

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Speaker 5: Let's let's do eighteenth hole at TPC Twin Cities Plane. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 5: you have a five shot lead on me.

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Speaker 6: Yep.

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Speaker 5: If you have a five shot lead on me and

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Speaker 5: you hear your driving, you're gonna hit it right down

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Speaker 5: the middle.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Now on your second shot, are you going to lay?

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Speaker 5: Up on the left side and the fairway over there.

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Speaker 5: Are you going to try to hit this ball two

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Speaker 5: hundred and thirty yards over the water to try to

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Speaker 5: give yourself the best possible score. You're up five shots,

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Speaker 5: You're not going to go for it. You're gonna go

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Speaker 5: lay up over there.

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Speaker 6: You are correct.

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Speaker 5: So using Sam Donald's yardage against him, they were up

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Speaker 5: massively in the first half. The second half, they're not

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Speaker 5: passing the ball right, they're running the clock out. And

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Speaker 5: even as a decision maker in those spots, you're not

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Speaker 5: going to try to attempt the thirty yard pass down

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Speaker 5: the middle that might get picked off and change momentum

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Speaker 5: in the game. You're gonna dump the ball and just

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Speaker 5: try to keep moving the chains and keep.

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Speaker 1: The clock going.

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Speaker 5: So it's just ridiculous to even use those numbers against him,

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Speaker 5: because and like the team put up forty one points.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know some of that. You know the

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Speaker 1: special the special teams touchdown right off the gate, right

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Speaker 1: out of the gate. But it's not like they won.

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Speaker 5: Ten to three, right and and darn you know, and

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Speaker 5: and Donald didn't do enough to put up some points

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Speaker 5: on he was efficient enough.

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Speaker 6: One other thing that Sue am brought up, and I

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Speaker 6: think a lot of people will agree with this. And

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Speaker 6: I disagree, but I think a lot of people will.

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Speaker 1: He writes.

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Speaker 6: The playoffs aren't the same without Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, and

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Speaker 6: Joe Burrow. The quarterback matchups in the fun four May

588
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Speaker 6: versus Stidham, Darnold versus Stafford. Only one of those four

589
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Speaker 6: quarterbacks has won a playoff game before this season. That

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Speaker 6: would be Stafford. Blah, Baseball's at his best when the

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Speaker 6: Yankees are good enough to cheer for against the NFL's best,

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Speaker 6: when the best quarterbacks are playing for the trophy. Couldn't

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Speaker 6: disagree more? Couldn't disagree more. It's fun to watch if

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Speaker 6: by if, by hook or by crook, if the results

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Speaker 6: take us there, I do enjoy it, right But I

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Speaker 6: to me, this is refreshing.

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Speaker 1: That I don't have. I've said this so many I

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Speaker 1: think I must be in the minority.

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Speaker 6: I was so tired of Tom and save me the

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Speaker 6: You just don't appreciate greatness, Yeah I do. I'm tired

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Speaker 6: of his greatness. I like seeing other people succeed. I

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Speaker 6: like other stories. I like guys that have picked themselves

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Speaker 6: up by the boots. The Stidham story could be brilliant.

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Speaker 6: What if he's just to me, I would rather watch

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Speaker 6: if he's able to guide his team down to the

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Speaker 6: winning field goal or touchdowning get to the big game.

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Speaker 6: To me, that's much more. It's it's different, it's exciting.

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Speaker 6: I like that storyline better than Pat Mahomes gets to

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Speaker 6: another big game and runs down the field going that's

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Speaker 6: what I do, That's what I do. That's what I do.

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Speaker 6: I like the different I like when different teams make it.

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Speaker 6: I like when there's unsung heroes. Would anybody say the

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Speaker 6: same thing. How many Viking fans would say, yeah, I

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Speaker 6: really didn't like case Keenum getting to the NFC Championship game. Hey,

615
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Speaker 6: because he's not one of the big quarterbacks. I'd rather

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Speaker 6: the Vikings not made it. I'd rather watch somebody else.

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Speaker 6: Now you can say, well, now, come out, you're talking

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Speaker 6: about your favorite team. But my point is I like

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Speaker 6: the Drake May Story's fun young quarterback. Now again, maybe

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Speaker 6: some Viking fans, I suppose are bidder because you know,

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Speaker 6: we didn't get made. Now, it's not like we passed

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Speaker 6: on and we we didn't move up to get him,

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Speaker 6: but it's like, yeah, we made him a lucrative offer,

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Speaker 6: But I don't understand.

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Speaker 1: To me, I am, I like it.

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Speaker 6: It's different. And look, when you have the very best

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Speaker 6: quarterbacks and pro football playing that that's fun too. I

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Speaker 6: get that you get to see some high end football,

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Speaker 6: but I like one. You give how much fun will we?

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Speaker 6: And the Donald story? For me, it doesn't matter. I

631
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Speaker 6: just remember everybody loved the Donald story last year when

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Speaker 6: he was playing for the Vikings. Now we don't like

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Speaker 6: the Donald story anymore. Why because he's not playing for

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Speaker 6: the Vikings. That's another good story. A guy that had

635
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Speaker 6: been cast off everywhere he went. He was terrible with

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Speaker 6: the Giants. Was it the Panthers or Jacksonville? Whoever he

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Speaker 6: was with, he was terrible with them or Jets. I

638
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Speaker 6: think he was drafted by the Jets's hat right. He

639
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Speaker 6: was terrible for three teams, well not San Francisco wasn't terrible.

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Speaker 6: He just sat on the bench the entire time, and

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Speaker 6: all of a sudden he learns from brock Purty. He says,

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Speaker 6: I learned everything about being a quarterback. Give give O'Connell

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Speaker 6: some of the credit, if you want, give Jefferson, give

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Speaker 6: you know, give the entire team credit. But the guy

645
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Speaker 6: puts up a wonderful football story and again Detroit game

646
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Speaker 6: is bad. He had no protection in the Rams game.

647
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Speaker 6: And now people, because he's not here. If you're mad

648
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Speaker 6: at anybody, it should be for the Vikings not signed.

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Speaker 5: They wanted to believe the reason he was successful last

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Speaker 5: year because KOs is a quarterback whisper and can take

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Speaker 5: any quarterback. And now that entire narrative has been flipped

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Speaker 5: on them, where Donald's having success elsewhere and the quarterback

653
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 5: or quarterbacks that KOs had to run with this year

654
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 5: to not do very well. So now they had a

655
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 5: mindset of and you know, I fell victim to a

656
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 5: little bit last right, and I said, hey, KOs might

657
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 5: be the best coach in football. Right And now a

658
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 5: year later you look back at and you thought you

659
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 5: had maybe one of the best top five coaching football

660
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 5: for the next ten years, and now you're going, oh,

661
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 5: maybe he's not a miracle worker.

662
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 4: Right right.

663
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 6: And as I said earlier in the I just said

664
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 6: in the last segment, I completely realized and I'm fully

665
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 6: aware that Donald you know a lot of times when

666
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 6: he's dropping back to pass, you kind of cover your

667
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 6: eyes and just peek through your fingers because you don't

668
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 6: know where it's going to go. And I get that, Yeah,

669
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 6: that comes with Sam Darnold, Swave goes with McCarthy. You

670
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 6: can't even watch the game. Now, that could change. He

671
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 6: could get better. We talked about that again. I still

672
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 6: get the people that.

673
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: Think we've given up.

674
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 6: On him already. Well, no, no, because there were some

675
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 6: moments last year, late in the season where he played

676
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 6: a little better, again playing against three of those last

677
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 6: Did he play in all five of those last games

678
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 6: or was it the last four because he didn't he

679
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 6: miss one because of the uh, he did miss one

680
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 6: because of the hairline fracture. But yeah, that's correct. The

681
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 6: other games that he played in. I think the opponents

682
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 6: had the twenty ninth, the thirty first in the thirty

683
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 6: second ranked defenses in pro football. That's not his fault.

684
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 6: Nine didn't put their their roster together. He's not coaching

685
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 6: their defense. But you're playing games that don't mean anything,

686
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 6: and you're playing against really bad teams. But it's you've

687
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 6: heard me say this six seven times better to play

688
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 6: really bad against really bad teams than the alternative, because

689
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 6: the alternative means, oh, now we're in some trouble, right,

690
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 6: But he did, and we'll see how it goes. And

691
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 6: I would assume, like everybody else, the Vikings will I

692
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 6: don't know who that backup quarterback will be. We know

693
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 6: you're not going to get a guy that thinks that

694
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 6: wants to start. You're not going to get a Danny

695
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 6: Dimes guy. That's the reason he didn't stay, or at

696
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 6: least he felt he had a better chance to win

697
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 6: the job with the Colts that he did with the Vikings.

698
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 6: And I don't think it's because he thought McCarthy was

699
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 6: better than Richardson. I think it was because he knew

700
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 6: the Vikings had put all their eggs in that McCarthy basket,

701
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 6: and that's the guy they wanted because he's our future.

702
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 6: We traded up top ten pick. This is the guy

703
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 6: we want. We're giving him every opportunity to win the job.

704
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 6: You he would have to be so bad in preseason

705
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 6: and in camp, and Danny Down's gonna have to have

706
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 6: been so good. That was the only way he was

707
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 6: going to get that sturdy job. So I don't know

708
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 6: who that player would be for the Vikings, right, Could

709
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 6: it be Stidham?

710
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 4: What if?

711
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 6: Stand even if he loses. What if he plays really well?

712
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 6: What if he puts up you know, for for you know,

713
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 6: the people that love the glaudy stats, they like seeing that,

714
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 6: maybe puts up some real nice stats. He could make

715
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 6: himself some money. He could make himself some money. So

716
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 6: what if he's really good? Would he be a bell?

717
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 6: I don't know what his contract statuses? I I have

718
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 6: no idea.

719
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 5: Typically those backup quarterbacks are not on long term deals.

720
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 6: That's that's correct. So I mean would that.

721
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: Only be in the introducer. They're kind of year to

722
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: year at this point.

723
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,479
Speaker 6: They are, they are here to you. Yeah, you're thinking

724
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 6: about a change. I've been thinking about that for about

725
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 6: twenty years. Well, hold on, give yourself a rim shot

726
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 6: there which play that's I've been a rim shot. That's

727
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 6: just the truth of hold truth with some segment of

728
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 6: the truth.

729
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 4: Uh.

730
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 6: And there there are other people that keep you, you know,

731
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 6: bringing up you know, well, the Vikings could have Bonnicks too. Yeah,

732
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 6: you know again, you know they could have. They certainly

733
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 6: could have went out and got Bonix and they wanted Uh.

734
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 5: And it does look at bon Nicks also. Not trying

735
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 5: to take anything away from Boenicks, but he's had one

736
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 5: of the best offensive lines in football. So just because

737
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 5: bo Nicks is doing well somewhere else doesn't necessarily mean

738
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 5: he would be doing that exact same thing here.

739
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 6: And he he does look like he has a bright future.

740
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 6: I mean, he got his team to the divisional round

741
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 6: and really that.

742
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: Game was theirs.

743
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 6: That game was theirs to win, bro they did win.

744
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 6: So he just got he injured. He should be in

745
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 6: the in the in the ANFC championship game. So yeah,

746
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 6: but I don't know if you were with me, Tenneby,

747
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 6: I mean, I you know, I do it. It's it's

748
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 6: fun to watch the Mahomes magic, it's fun to watch

749
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 6: Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, all the great quarters. It's fun

750
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 6: to watch. But I I like, that's why the Williams thing.

751
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 6: And I know Viking fans and Packer fans and Lions

752
00:37:55,160 --> 00:38:01,479
Speaker 6: fans fight. It hard to root for Chicago, but I'll

753
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 6: throw at at those people what everybody threw at me

754
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 6: about the Homes and Brady Well and what Brian Oak

755
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 6: does about musicians and bands. You don't have to like him,

756
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 6: but you have to appreciate what they do right now,

757
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 6: what he says, respect, respect, what they do yeah, and

758
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 6: so okay, all right. I would say the same thing

759
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 6: about Kayler Williams. I know you don't like him, because

760
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 6: you don't anybody, that's being honest. I've was talking to

761
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 6: b about it. Burah's in passing yesterday and he's a

762
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 6: Bears fan. So he's like, I go, as he was

763
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 6: coming by, I go, you have the best quarterback in

764
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 6: pro football, and he's going to be the best player

765
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 6: in pro football. Here's gonna be the best quarterback in

766
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 6: the best playing in pro football in the next couple

767
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 6: of years. If not, he isn't already. He goes, well,

768
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 6: he's got to learn to throw this kind of a

769
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 6: pass or that kind of a past, the kind of

770
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 6: thing that you know, Brady, I think talks about where

771
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 6: remember you have the you have.

772
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: The bullet pass, and you have the little lob over

773
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: the top.

774
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 6: Of my bus. And I looked bro I said, well, yeah,

775
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 6: but in his second year.

776
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: I think he'll figure that out.

777
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 6: I think he if there are some passes, he's not

778
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 6: good at her decisions he's not making. He had a

779
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 6: terrible first year where he hung onto the ball, he

780
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 6: didn't have an offensive line. Ibra Flus apparently didn't know

781
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 6: what he was doing. To the point he's not. He's

782
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 6: been fired twice in two years, got fired as a

783
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 6: head coach, and wasn't he the offensive coordinator?

784
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 1: Was it for Dallas?

785
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 5: This year has not been a good look for him, No,

786
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 5: with how much Chicago turned around.

787
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 6: This year exactly, And then you figure everybody tells me,

788
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 6: I don't know that. The Ben Johnson defense is a

789
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 6: bit complicated. It's it it it it. You've you've got

790
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 6: to really, you got to you you you got to

791
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,479
Speaker 6: burn the midnight oil. You have to put your nose

792
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 6: inside that book like you're like you're studying for a

793
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 6: uh for an exam. And if he was able to

794
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 6: accomplish the things he was able to accomplish this year,

795
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 6: really look like he's starting to figure things out. And

796
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 6: directly it was come from behind victories. You can say

797
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 6: what you want. That could change.

798
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: You're right.

799
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 6: We talked yesterday about you know, there's the overreaction stuff.

800
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 6: Can well the as be as good as last year

801
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 6: and they think is well, they're probably not gonna make

802
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 6: they're not going to have seven or eight whatever it

803
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 6: was there was seven fourth quarter comment. You're right, probably

804
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 6: not that still doesn't mean you can't take that away

805
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 6: from what he did. He still engineered those comebacks, so

806
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 6: he has it in him. That's all I can tell you.

807
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 6: That's why with even with McCarthy, we saw him do

808
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 6: some really nice things, So it's in him.

809
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: It's there. But the trick is, can you do it consistently?

810
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 6: Well, bad things too, horrifically bad things, right, but if

811
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 6: you can eliminate the horrifically bad things and continue to

812
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 6: build on the good things and do them consistently quarter

813
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 6: in quarter out, game in game out year, I have

814
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 6: asked where you that's where you make your bread and

815
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 6: butter and you get the big contracts. So I I

816
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 6: don't know what you think of Caleb Williams. I mean,

817
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 6: right now you know the best quarterback I would I

818
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 6: would still say Mahomes is the best in the business.

819
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: After that, you can make your heart still put Josh

820
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: Allen there.

821
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 6: You can put Josh Allen there, you can put Joe Burrow.

822
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 6: He can't stay healthy, but when he's We've seen when

823
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 6: he's good. Mr Jackson's good. And there's a handful of

824
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 6: other guys. Stafford, you know, despite his age, he's you know,

825
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 6: he's he's got all kinds of town. But I I

826
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 6: and again when you put all the intangibles, when you

827
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 6: put together where he's been, where he's going, where he's

828
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 6: at an age especially, I take Caleb Williams right now.

829
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 6: If you if you said, well, you pick one quarterback

830
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 6: for your franchise, who do you want? I'd Takeayla Williams.

831
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 5: When he was drafted, he was thought to be a

832
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 5: generational quarterback and they had comparisons to Pat Mahomes out

833
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 5: of college.

834
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 6: And now we're seeing why, at least here what we

835
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 6: saw for the.

836
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 5: Day, if he stays on this trajectory, because year one,

837
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 5: year two is a massive improvement.

838
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and.

839
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 5: You know you're what you what you use the most

840
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 5: as to what makes a great quarterback. We he had

841
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 5: this year the fourth quarter. How many times were they

842
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 5: down multiple scores in the fourth quarter? Two minute warning,

843
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 5: you know, two minute drills. He had lots of brilliant moments.

844
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 5: He was at his best when his best was needed. Yes,

845
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 5: is that the phrase of the football people like to use?

846
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 4: Yeah?

847
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 6: I think that is. I think that's what I think.

848
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 6: That's what KOC said. Regardy McCarthy at his best when

849
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 6: he needs to be at his best, he says common antenna.

850
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 6: Quarterback can make an offensive line look better than they are, right, Ye,

851
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 6: Drake May May Bradbury a pro bowler, and while that

852
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 6: td to tie the game even the best way I've

853
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 6: ever seen, But Caleb Williams ain't the best quarterback in

854
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 6: the league right now while he's healthy. It's Pat Mahomes

855
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 6: and this Josh Allen ain't far behind. Drake May is coming.

856
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 6: That's Ron from Golden Valley. Tied to your opinion, I'll

857
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 6: take Caleb Williams over all four of those guys every

858
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 6: single time. He's only going into his third year and

859
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 6: he's just scratching the surface.

860
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: I think.

861
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 6: And now again, I said that about RG three, I

862
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 6: said that about brock Osweather, I said that about Jay Cutler.

863
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 6: I love those guys. I like Dan Pastorini's still one

864
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 6: of my favorite quarterbacks of all time. And I'm just

865
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 6: telling you, Caleb Williams, I mean.

866
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't dispute you.

867
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 6: I'd be the general manager that would lose my job

868
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 6: because I would do everything I couldn't get him. He's

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Speaker 6: the guy I would remember when that forty Niners traded

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Speaker 6: was a third three first round to get Fields? Was

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Speaker 6: it Fields?

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Speaker 1: Who is the Trey Lance?

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Speaker 6: I would? I would, I would trade three first round

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Speaker 6: draft picks to get Caleb Wooden.

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Speaker 1: Oh, you wouldn't able to get him, you wouldn't.

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Speaker 5: They tried to trade three first round picks to get

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Speaker 5: Drake May before he ever played a snap.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and they couldn't get him. So the legendary one.

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Speaker 6: We'll see what he has to say about all this.

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Speaker 6: Anytime Tenneby we seem to be an unstable ground here,

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Speaker 6: we always go to the stabilizer, Mark Rose, and he

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Speaker 6: always seems to He always got that that common sense

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Speaker 6: that we.

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Speaker 1: Always look forward to.

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Speaker 6: So he joined us neaps here in the common Man

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Speaker 6: Program on the family