1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Mark Madden Show. You like it, you 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: love it, you want more of it. We got Connor 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Clifton from the Penguins on at four thirty. 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: They're on the road. 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: They won yesterday at Seattle, which we'll talk about. He 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: did a pretty funny bit interviewing teammates on the plane 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: to Seattle, and that kind of didn't go viral, but 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people have seen it and like it. 9 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: So we'll talk to Clifton at four thirty. Between then 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 1: and now, we got Pierre Maguire at three thirty, Mike 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: Defabo talking Steelers at four pm. 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 2: But right now we got Tommy Radio. 13 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: Tom do you agree that a lot of assumptions are 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: being made about the Steelers high that it's gonna be this, 15 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna be that it's gonna be what it's always been? 16 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely. 17 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 4: I feel like people are just gonna assume, since you're 18 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 4: three for three, you're gonna go four for four. They 19 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 4: are assuming in terms of success and style, right yeah, 20 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 4: the whole nine yards. But they also are assuming that 21 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 4: it's gonna be a defensive minded guy, you know what 22 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 4: I mean, Like a young, up and coming defensive guy. 23 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 3: And I think that that assumption is correct. 24 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 4: I do think that they are going to go down 25 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 4: that path, and that's what kind of disturbs me the most, 26 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 4: because Shula and Schelhouse, I think, are the two front 27 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 4: runners as far as I'm concerned. I want to pick 28 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 4: from that Rams tree, but I would go with Sielhaus. 29 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 4: Just go with the offensive guy. Try a little bit 30 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 4: different than they are going to. I don't think they will. 31 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: Probably won't. That's correct. My assumption is still Chris Shula. 32 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. 33 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: But do you think that they might rush to higher 34 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 1: if the Rams make the Super Bowl? If they can't 35 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: do interviews with them in person, they can interview them 36 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: on video. 37 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: Right, they've already did. They already talked to both of them. 38 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: Well, right, I'm wondering if I mean, what's the difference. 39 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: I guess, but I don't know. I think I kind 40 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: of want to have that in person interview just to 41 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: feel it out. 42 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: Don't know, I do, But I would not disqualify them 43 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: from I would not rush to hire somebody. 44 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: If the Rams do make the Super Bowl. 45 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: You're just qualifying them from the successes of the team 46 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 3: that they're contry coributing to. Right now, that'd be so stupid. 47 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: Well, like I keep saying, she Shula is the favor 48 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: favorite for me. I think he's safe. I think he's traditional. Uh, 49 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: sheel has is who would hire and I don't rule 50 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: him out. McCarthy's a long shot. And now an article 51 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: came out you see on Bleacher Report that McCarthy and 52 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: Rogers like hate each other's guts. I thought it was 53 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: merely like kind of butting heads, but apparently Rogers held 54 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: a grudge because McCarthy was the ocie at San Francisco 55 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: when they drafted Alex Smith instead of Rogers, and Rogers 56 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: held McCarthy responsible for that in perpetuity. 57 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 3: Sounds like Aaron Rodgers, right, Someone that would hold a 58 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: grudge like that. 59 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: An absolute petty dipstack. 60 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 4: Even though he won a Super Bowl with Mike McCarthy. Yeah, 61 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 4: that's why I don't think it'd be a lock that 62 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 4: he would just bring Rogers back. 63 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: If it's McCarthy, well, if he's not going to bring 64 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: Rogers back, from the team's point of view, there's no 65 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: reason to bring in McCarthy, then I wouldn't. 66 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 4: Probably McCarthy no matter what, Probably not. McCarthy's a good coach, 67 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 4: but it's it's over for him. He said two cycles. 68 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 4: Two I'd say two actually successful cycles. He won twelve 69 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 4: games with the Cowboys three three times, and that's a 70 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 4: tough situation with Jerry looking over your shoulder. He shouldn't 71 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 4: have been fired. He probably should still be heading that 72 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 4: ship right now, and just seeing that Dak Prescott era 73 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 4: through and then you finally decide to move on from him. 74 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 4: But it's Jerry Jones. So but it's done for Mike McCarthy. 75 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 4: I don't hate the interview though. I think it's it's smart. 76 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 4: You know, he is an experienced coach. 77 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: Well, no like like Allen Saunders said, maybe you're boonds 78 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: and some stuff off for coach that you could apply 79 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: vis a vis which young coach you decide to hire. 80 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: So for me, Shoe is the favorite. Sheeljas is kind 81 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: of a long shot, but with decent odds. And but 82 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: but honestly, after Shoel, I'd say a black guy gets hired. 83 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: I think the Rooney rule does figure in. That's not 84 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: a bad thing. But I think just to be blind 85 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: to that figuring in that it's called the Rooney rule 86 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: would be foolish. Now there are reports that players are 87 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: lobbying to bring Rogers back. Can you believe the gall 88 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: of players on a team that haven't won a playoff 89 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: game in nine years going to management and say they 90 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: want Rogers back, who was brought in specifically to win 91 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: a playoff game but didn't. 92 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: And you know that's spearheaded by Watton Hayward. 93 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 4: The goal of players on a team that don't have 94 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 4: a coach right now to be going to ownership and 95 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 4: being like, we need this, we need that. How about 96 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 4: we figure out who the coach is going to be 97 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 4: first boys, And honestly, Mark, that's a bad sign right 98 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 4: for how this is gonna go. And if those guys 99 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 4: are gonna be good conduits to that locker room for 100 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 4: the new head coach, or if they're gonna be a 101 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 4: little bit resistant and be like, oh, Mike t didn't 102 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 4: do it this way. 103 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: I don't know about this guy who's. 104 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 2: Going to be the quarterback because they have zero idea, 105 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: don't they. 106 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 4: You don't think Will Howard and Mason Rudolff, you just 107 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 4: rule that out. You crumple that up and throw it 108 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 4: in the trash. 109 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: I like that path. 110 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: I think that's in their back pocket. 111 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: I think they should put it in their front pocket. 112 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 4: Maybe they shouldn't out loud put it in their front pocket, 113 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 4: but kind of just go their way through the offseason, 114 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 4: have it organically be the starting quarterbacks. 115 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 3: That's what I mean. 116 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 2: That's what I mean. 117 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: And then it pops up and it's like, hey, well 118 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: Howard and the fans would love it. 119 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: They consider this, consider that, but they wind up going 120 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: to camp with Rudolph and Hocke. 121 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then some other guy that they picked, like 122 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 4: maybe seventh. I think he's out there right now. Unrestricted 123 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 4: free agency sucks. Uh. 124 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: Paul's Ice made a good point that the NFL coaching 125 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: mary go round is out of control. When guys thought 126 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: to be very good coaches and with decent records, they 127 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: all got their walking papers within a short time. Whether 128 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: it's mcderbott, Harbaugh, Stefanski, Tomlin, et cetera. 129 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 3: It is pretty wild. 130 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 4: But I don't know if I disagree with any of 131 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 4: those teams moving on from their coaches. Do you like, 132 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 4: I see a lot of reason for everyone that you 133 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 4: just listened there. Yes, they're good coaches, but I mcer 134 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 4: and Buffalo you would have moved on from the GM, right, Yes, 135 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 4: isn't it. 136 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 3: So weird that he promoted himself. 137 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: No, no is a mark. He's he's a good guy. 138 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: He's done a lot, not just for sports in Buffalo, 139 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,559 Speaker 1: owning the Sabers and Bills, but obviously for Penn State Hockey, 140 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: built the rink. 141 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: He's paying Gavin McKenna his salary. 142 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: If you wanted to get rid of James Franklin, Pagola 143 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: did that big Penn State a lot, a lot of influence. 144 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: But but h but the GM has Pagola's ear and 145 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: that's why he stayed and got the promotion and why 146 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: McDermott left. But I think that Bill's fans need to 147 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: take a good look if they're celebrating this. Josh Allen 148 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: got their very raw out of Wyoming and McDermott developed 149 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: him into the best quarterback in the NFL. Not that 150 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: that's translated into winning anything. You know who got fired, 151 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: but he's a very good coach, and everybody knows it 152 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: is Mike McDaniel. He got canned in Miami, tom And 153 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: and got tagged with the geek label. I love what 154 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: when Rex Ryan makes fun of McDaniel for being a geek, Well, 155 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: you're a foot fetish meat had jagged off, and nobody 156 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: want you to exactly, so why don't you shut the 157 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: freak up? But everybody's interviewing McDaniel for their jobs, except 158 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: of course Pittsburgh. 159 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 4: I honestly think, and maybe I'm foolish and and maybe 160 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 4: I'm missing something that the first fetish guy, Rex Ryan, 161 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 4: is getting. But I think the Raves and the Bill 162 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 4: should be in a race right now to get to 163 00:06:58,560 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel. 164 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: You shook the words right out of my mouth off 165 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: the notes page here, Tom, the Steelers better home. 166 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: McDaniel. 167 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: Don't go to Baltimore because with his offensive brain, he 168 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: might maximize Lamar. 169 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 4: He's the best running game coordinator I think football has 170 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 4: to offer as far as that side of things is concerned, 171 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 4: and I think he is good with a quarterback like 172 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 4: he did have to a playing at a high level 173 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 4: until the concussions just became overwhelming and Tua became a 174 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 4: shell of himself. Buffalo or Baltimore should be absolutely banging 175 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 4: down his door asking him what's going to take to 176 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 4: take over friendship, because Buffalo is a great running team too, 177 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 4: and they could build up that way. And the other 178 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 4: thing McDaniel did in Miami that was good that Buffalo 179 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 4: so sorely needs. He got playmakers on the outside for 180 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 4: his quarterback hill and his prime and waddle. 181 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: I mean, that's speed right there. It would be perfect 182 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 3: for that. 183 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: That said, everything you described also describes a team that 184 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: underachieved on McDaniel's watch. Then again, I think that was 185 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: mostly down to Tua. 186 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: Tom. We got Pirate talk up next. I bet you're 187 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: excited one oh five. 188 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 4: To nine prime and didn't really perform are particularly great 189 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 4: in those playoffs on his career playoffs exactly, And hey, 190 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 4: I don't want to hold that against him, because he 191 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 4: was great aut of time for the Pirates, of course, 192 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 4: But yes, it's time to move on. And by the way, 193 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 4: it's not just the Pirates that don't think he can't 194 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 4: play defense. Why doesn't anybody else ask to sign him? Right? 195 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: Nobody else wants that bat in their lineup, No, they don't. 196 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: I don't think Roberto Klemene would have been begging for 197 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: a job on Twitter. Then again, he would have been 198 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: like an LA Dodger or a New York Yankee. As 199 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: soon as free agency permitted that Arm could have played 200 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 1: right field until he was sixty. Mark, Yeah, sad to 201 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: think about he I think he had three or four 202 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: more really good years left in him. Pirate talk's been 203 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: kind of quiet, to say nothing of no more roster editions. 204 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: I guess they think they're good enough. 205 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 4: I guess which is so bad, because they're they're getting 206 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 4: close to being good enough, I think, to being a 207 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 4: wild card contender. 208 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: They just need that one bat And you know. 209 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 4: People talking about all you gotta get cut, you got 210 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 4: to bring Cutch back before Pirate Fest starts and before 211 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 4: spring training starts. Everybody every day. If they're true Pirates 212 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 4: fans should be pounding the table for au Hennio Suarez 213 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 4: somebody like that. Put your chips in the table for 214 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 4: somebody there, not just bringing back the mascot to be 215 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 4: the DH. How'd you pronounce his first name, au Hennio? 216 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 4: Is that really how you pronounce it? 217 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: It's awesome. 218 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: Should it be Eugenio? 219 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: No? 220 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 4: I think it's au Henio. That's how he likes to 221 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 4: pronounce it. That's how they pronounce it when he comes 222 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 4: up to bat au Hennio Suarez. Could you imagine Guy 223 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 4: Junker saying that? 224 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 2: I could? That would be pretty awesome. You've talked me 225 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: into it. 226 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: It reminds me when I was a kid park Jari 227 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: in Montreal, where where a ten year old Mark Madden 228 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: went to see the Pirates play doubleheader in their seventy 229 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: one World Championship season and it got rained out. My 230 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: heart was broken. That's when Willie Stargel was rude to 231 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: my mother at the airport when I was getting autographs. 232 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: But but I digress. The announcer there they had a 233 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: catcher now at bet for the Expos. 234 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 2: Number so and so John Buck g Bella. It was 235 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: like he ordering it Ala familia. 236 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 3: Just like that, just like that, like he was in 237 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: the scene in Inglorious Bastards in the theater. 238 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, that's right, Dominique the Coco and Dominique 239 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 4: the Coca magrit. 240 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: And you also had a guy how about this for 241 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: and he was Rookie of the Year for the Exposed. 242 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: The catcher No, no, no, Buck, no Buccabella was like, 243 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: he's split time. How about I remember stuff like this? 244 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: Cy he split time behind the plate with John Bateman. 245 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: I remember remember the Expos catching battery. Back then, I 246 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: could I could name the lineups from like the seventies, 247 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: but not now, because I cared then. I was a 248 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 1: kid who loved baseball, and the Pirates ruined it for me. 249 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: But but there's their third basement rookie of the year, 250 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: Coco Luboy Just uh great, great for a like that 251 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: francophone accent with the announcer. 252 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 2: It was just just tremendous. 253 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 3: Uh. 254 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: What did you make of the National Championship game? I 255 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: thought it was a real good game. I thought Miami 256 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: was closer to winning then people figured. But but people 257 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: were saying it's the greatest game, the greatest story in 258 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: sports ever. 259 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 2: I don't know about that. 260 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: No. 261 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 4: I think that's you know, the classic. We're all gonna 262 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 4: be hyperbolic right here in the face of seeing an 263 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 4: awesome game and just crowned immediately and say how great 264 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 4: this was. 265 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: It was the greatest ever. I mean, it was awesome. 266 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: It was awesome. I'm glad for Signetti. 267 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 4: I'm glad for Mendoza. That's like a great season, like 268 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 4: one of the best. That touchdown where he like flew 269 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 4: into the end zone. That was like Elway in the 270 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 4: Super Bowl ature moment the one year. 271 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: So that was great. 272 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 1: But like what I hear people saying, this is the 273 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: greatest story in sports history. Okay, let's start with the 274 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: Miracle on Ice in nineteen eighty, which this is nowhere 275 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: close to, not even remotely. 276 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 3: I'm not ready to even say it was the best 277 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: National championship game ever. As far as the. 278 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: Sport, I'm talking about the story of Indiana coming out 279 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: of nowhere sixteen to zero Signetti. 280 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 2: It's a great story. 281 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 3: It's awesome story, but yeah, not miracle on ice. 282 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 4: And to your point when you said people might not 283 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 4: be talking about as much how close Indiana was to 284 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 4: losing Carson Beck, dude, you drive that ball towards the 285 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 4: end zone, put a little bit more air on it, 286 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 4: let that receiver get under it. That's a touchdown. Like 287 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 4: most quarterbacks, Mason Hinchel's in that past Mark, I tell 288 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 4: you that right now. 289 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: No, he wouldn't, but that that picked in the game. Basically, 290 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: if that's a better ball, it's a touchdown, without question. 291 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: It was like the guy was open, he's behind the guy. 292 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: You go to the end zone there, you lead him 293 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: into the en zone with a little bit more pep 294 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: on it. He just kind of threw a lollipop. It 295 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:17,479 Speaker 1: was an awful pass. 296 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 4: You know what. 297 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: I'm happy for. 298 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: Even though he's like kind of the the big fat 299 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: drunk guy on on barstool is Mike Kdick, Who's my 300 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: buddy's kid I grew up with. I grew up with 301 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: with with Mike Senior, and and Mike's a good kid, 302 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: and he had a great career in Indiana. I think 303 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: his knees prohibited from going pro uh and I thought 304 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: he could have played. I if I were him, I 305 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: would have got a couple of years out of it. 306 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: Maybe some workman's comp whatever the NFL version is in that. 307 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: But I'm glad that he's so happy they won. And 308 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: then a lot of people, including somebody on Indiana shouted 309 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: him out on TV, saying that Mike changed the culture there, 310 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: which I'm sure he did. 311 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: Mike just a team first type of kid. 312 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 3: No, he's a huge part of it. Like I think 313 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 3: I heard his story, like he was to go to 314 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 3: the pros. 315 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 4: He was thinking about doing that, and then he talked 316 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 4: to Signetti when he got there, because he was there 317 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 4: for Signette's first year last year, got him some nice 318 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 4: nil money, convinced him to come back be center for 319 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 4: that team. And as you heard on the podium from 320 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 4: all those players, like he was a huge bridge glue 321 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 4: guy for all the JMU guys that came in because 322 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 4: he was an Indiana guy there, so he bridged that 323 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 4: gap between the two. 324 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 1: Locker room Junior was a culture changer. His dad's a 325 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: real good guy. So I was glad to see him. 326 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: I'm sorry he didn't, you know, stick Around wasn't able 327 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: to another year. 328 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 4: But I saw Sloetti on the buses after saw him 329 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 4: and like, daft hi up and there's a clip of 330 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 4: sing you can hear him being like you were a big. 331 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 3: Part of this, and they could have used them too, 332 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 3: without question would have started. 333 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: Oh well, not only that. 334 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: I mean, if there's one, I don't want to say weakness, 335 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: but their O line won't great last n oh, Like 336 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 1: in Miami, it's unbelieved the pressure they put up. That's 337 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: what made the game that Mendoza played so good. He 338 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: was under siege the whole game. 339 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 4: Oh in the bloody lipt early in the act, like 340 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 4: three times in the road to open the second half. 341 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 4: It was crazy, and I do like that there was 342 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 4: a little bit of blood there. I hope he bladed 343 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 4: actually because that gets you over big time, right juice. 344 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 4: It was awesome though, just it was it was really 345 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 4: fun game. It does suck that everybody rushes to say 346 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 4: greatest of all time, better than the Miracle on the 347 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 4: ice though. 348 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: Well they didn't say that. I mean that comparison has 349 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: not been made. But like it's not the greatest sports 350 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: story ever. By the way, if I play in the NHL, 351 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: would be gay because you know hidden rivalry of right, 352 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: he did rivalry, Well, there's a Freudian slip. But if 353 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: I played in NHL, I would keep a fingernail sharp 354 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: and every time I got high stick the juice. 355 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: Okay, to get to get the double min or the major. 356 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 3: I think that's great strategy. I don't know why players 357 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 3: don't do it. More. 358 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: Do you think Mendoza is going to be a good pro? 359 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 3: I think his floor is really high. 360 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 4: Like, I think he's gonna be pretty decent, you know 361 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 4: what I mean, like a worse they'll become like an 362 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 4: Andy Dalton type of quarterback where he's just like, is 363 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 4: he good? 364 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: Isn't he good? 365 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 4: You get to the playoffs every night, and he's got 366 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 4: to take him? Right, he's number one this year. Let 367 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 4: me let me throw something out there. 368 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: I would consider we're I Vegas, Okay, And by the way, Davis, 369 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: what Mark Davis, the Raiders owner kid, right, Uh he 370 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: was there last night and yeah, yeah, so I mean, oh, Brady, 371 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: I forgot Brady's in the owner. Brady's gonna make sure 372 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: they take of course good Mendoza. But but I would 373 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: see what's out there offered for that first pick, because 374 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: if it was overwhelming, if it was like a herschel 375 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: Walker type return, I'd consider it because even though I 376 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: think Mendoza has a chance to be, like you said, 377 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: a very high floor. I if I'm not sure he's 378 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: a nailed on super Bowl winning superstar, I might. I 379 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: might see what I can get into trade. 380 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's worth exploring for him. He's not 381 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 4: Andrew Luck. You know, Trevor Lawrence was like that when 382 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 4: he was coming out where it was like, this is 383 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 4: the clear number one pick, like he'll change your franchise. 384 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 4: I don't think Mendoza is at that level of a prospect, 385 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 4: so I think he got to entertain it. If someone 386 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 4: offers you like three first. 387 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: They won't they won't you. 388 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: I had forgotten about about Brady being part of Vegas's 389 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: ownership in football staff, love himself a winner into that 390 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: and totally violating every conflict of interest definition that's ever 391 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: ever existed by being on Fox I know, and yet 392 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan he becomes team president of the Falcons, he 393 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: resigns like a gentleman from CBS. 394 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 3: He plays by the rules. 395 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: Because nobody's gonna tell Tom Brady he can't do anything 396 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: except Giselle one oh five ninety. 397 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 4: X, the only show weekday mornings at six wherever you 398 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 4: are and totally free on the iHeartRadio app. 399 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 2: Penguins made a trade. 400 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: They got defenseman I solo Off, Is that right, Ilia Soliyoff, 401 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: defenseman from Colorado, Belarussian, in exchange for the winger Pustin 402 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: and who played here a bunch of times and really 403 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: was small and useless. 404 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: And they threw in a seven tron pick. I don't 405 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: know anything about this. 406 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: Soul of you off, but but hey, what the heck 407 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: can't hurt because all they give up was Pustin in 408 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: h I'm going to the North Hills game tonight. I 409 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: think Tom north Hill's hosting Butler. The team's tied for 410 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: second place in the section and only a game back 411 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: of I think Newcastle is the leader. North Hill's gotta 412 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: beat by Newcastle. Last week former Newcastle cheerleader Jen Balano, 413 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: no dot happy about that, And Tom, I want to 414 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: talk about soup. Are you a fan of soup? So yeah, 415 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: I found myself in a discussion on Twitter last night 416 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: about soup, and I love soup, especially this time of year. 417 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: Here's a question, this chili Kana soup. That's a tough one. 418 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 3: I think no. I don't think it does count a lot. 419 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: I think probably no too, but I'm still gonna eat it. 420 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: Of course, chili too, Like chili and soup are just 421 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: awesome for winter. And I love all those different different 422 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: Mexican kitchen type of soups, like chicken tortilla soup and 423 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: chilata soup. And then like some of this stuff is 424 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: almost like a stew, not soup, like like stuffed pepper soup, 425 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: the stuff that's really thick, loaded potato soup. I love 426 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: wedding soup. I love tomato soup. I've had grilled cheese 427 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: and tomato soup. Now another question is soup. 428 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 3: Yes, I think soup is a meal. I think it does. 429 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 4: Depend on the soup though, if it's like a party 430 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 4: or to be a big bull. This is just episode. 431 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 4: They already did this episode when they were asking about that. 432 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 4: If it's hardy, I think yes, it is a meal, 433 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 4: bigger bowl for sure. Like you're talking like a chowder, 434 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 4: you're talking like something like that. 435 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 2: It's chapter soup. That's a tough one too, right. 436 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 4: I think chowder is soup. Does that conflict me saying 437 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 4: chili isn't? I don't think so. I think I'm good. 438 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 2: There might be a bridge. 439 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 3: I don't think I'm hypocritical there. 440 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: The bridge between soup and chili. You might be chod. 441 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 2: And again, I've been in New England. 442 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: I've got seafood Chotter it has There's this place the 443 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: no name on the dock in Boston. 444 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 2: I was at years ago. I'm sure it's still there. 445 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: It's a very traditional. 446 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: Seafood restaurant and basically they take whatever seafood they have 447 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: a bunch of that day's catch and throw it in chowder. 448 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 3: Sounds so good. 449 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 450 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: And you can literally get lobster in there like anything 451 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: like gal Yeah. No, I've been there two or three times. 452 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: It's always excellent. Fact, I'd like to get back there 453 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: at some point before I croak. Those are some of 454 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: my favorite soups. 455 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 4: Mark is the seafood kind of variety of soups, the 456 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 4: clam chowders, the lobster bisks, the crab soups. 457 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 3: Those are awesome. 458 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: Now there's this place on McKnight Road called Stokes Grill 459 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: and it's great for soup. They have like this big 460 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: sign with eight or nine different soups every day. And 461 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: soup was a big deal in the winter when I 462 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: was a kid, even out of a can, like it 463 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: felt like something special when you come in, like from 464 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: playing street hockey in the cold, and you know your 465 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: you know, my mom or my grandma would make make 466 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: soup out of a can. 467 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: Now here's what I don't like. I don't like chilled soups. 468 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 3: I don't even know if I've had a children. 469 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:44,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, not interesting. 470 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 4: I don't even think I've tried it, to be honest 471 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 4: with you, that wouldn't appeal to me. The part of 472 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 4: soup that's so appealing is that warmness of it. I'm 473 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 4: not the biggest fan of French onion soup. 474 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. When's the last time I've had 475 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 3: French onion. 476 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: You know what, it depends how you make it, Okay, 477 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: friends onion soup with like the the huge triple layer 478 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: of cheese on top. 479 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 3: And the onion. 480 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 2: That's just cheese. Okay, that's soup. That's just cheese. 481 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: I like minimal cheese and a lot of onions chopped 482 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: up in kind of a spicy broth, which the onions 483 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: would make it. 484 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 3: I like the onions choped up too. 485 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 4: I don't like it when they're like thicker onions in there, 486 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 4: but I'm not I wouldn't gravitate towards fresh onion soup 487 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 4: if I had other choices. It's not one of my favorites. 488 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 4: Now you're a sprinkle like crackers into a soup guy, right. 489 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 2: It depends. 490 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: It depends on not like like what I Well, the 491 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: best soup for a waking one eighty is their tomato soup. 492 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: And I don't know if you're supposed to make it 493 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: this way, but to me, the most even way is 494 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: I run water through my cure eg without a cup, 495 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: and the hot water it's the perfect temperature when it 496 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: hits the soup mixed. Yeah, and their Italian tomato is 497 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: very good. But they make these like vegetable chips. I 498 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: do crumble up the vegetable chips. That sounds good to 499 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: put in air. It is good that's their best soup 500 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: forty seven pounds later. Do Awaken one eighty. They'll pay 501 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: me more if you do, but I normally don't. To me, 502 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: I'll take like a couple of spoons the soup, and 503 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: if it doesn't have the thickness, then I will, you know, 504 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: put like like crackers or whatever into it. But it's 505 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: not something I look to do. Now Here's how I 506 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: define soup as a meal. I like soup with either 507 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: a small salad, a half sandwich, or fries like some 508 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: small side dish, and I will dip the fries in 509 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: the soup depending on the soup. 510 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 2: Like fries and tomato soup, that's a winner. 511 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm open for that, but I still 512 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 4: think like a nice big bowl of like a chop 513 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 4: with potatoes in there, Yes, without any of the sides. 514 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 3: I can get away with that, like that can be 515 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 3: my lunch. 516 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: But if you get like a cup of tomato soup 517 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: with fries, cup of tomato soup with half a sandwich, 518 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: cup of tomato soup with a salad. 519 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 4: It's also one of my favorite moves that really any 520 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 4: restaurant I go to is to just take a look 521 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 4: at that soup. Menu before I get my main meal 522 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 4: and just say, like, do we have anything nice on 523 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 4: the soup menu today? Then I might want to have 524 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 4: a little cup of just for a little taste. I 525 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 4: love soup so much. Do you do bread bowls? 526 00:21:59,320 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 3: Are you fan of that? 527 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: No? 528 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: It's too much, it's too much. It overwhelms, that's fair. 529 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 2: And you know what else? 530 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: I don't like when I get like a like a 531 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: taco salad if they have the tortilla bowl, I don't 532 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: like that either too much. 533 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 3: It's too much. 534 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, boy, I wish I was like eleven again, 535 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 2: Tom with my dog and my mom and grandma and 536 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 2: an aunt and soup and soup, super big souper. 537 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: I think more so back then, sup a big part 538 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: of the households than it is now. I'll tell you what, 539 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: I would much rather talk about soup than the freaking 540 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: Steelers coaching search. You know, as you just said, do 541 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: you know why I can leave here and go have soup? 542 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: Maybe it's still grow Whereas with the Steelers coaching search, 543 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: I don't feel like it's going to be decided. I mean, 544 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: I think it will go till after the Super Bowl. Well, 545 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: it depends if the Rams I think that the Rams 546 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: go out in the Conference Championship, I think they'll decide, 547 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: not necessarily to pick one of those guys, but I 548 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: think they'll talk to them and decide within a couple 549 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: of days. 550 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 4: They can talk to them if they win. If they 551 00:22:58,560 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 4: win and go to the super Bowl, you're open. It's 552 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 4: open season because they have that bye week. So as yeah, 553 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 4: I'm positive permit yep, they're allowed to do that, but 554 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 4: they don't permit like now right, No, you can't do 555 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 4: it now. They got to get to the Conference championship 556 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 4: game first. Would you got to wait for that? 557 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: How would you feel if you're the Rams, those guys 558 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: taking away from prep time to do the interview? 559 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 3: I guess you can't say it's a minimal. 560 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 4: It's the bye week before the super Bowl, and it's 561 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 4: gonna be scheduled, you know, that Monday or Tuesday, right 562 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 4: after the Conference champion. 563 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: And it's still like college where if you hired Schule, 564 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: you would make him leave right now to start. 565 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: Preparing exactly he's still coaching the Super Bowl. 566 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 4: They wouldn't name Shula while he's still coaching in the 567 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 4: Super Bowl, would do that. 568 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 3: I think it's I think that's on a faric game. 569 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: It's going to be Shoel in it. 570 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 3: I hope it kind of is. I kind of think 571 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 3: that would be smart. 572 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 2: Here's why I hope it's Schuler. I like that McVeigh tree. 573 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: Well, if it's not Schule or shiel House, it'll be 574 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: a bad pick. I'm telling you it'll be a bad pick. 575 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 4: Tomorrow nights, the Pens go head to head against the Flames. 576 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: Game time is nine to thirty. Pregame starts at eight thirty. 577 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 4: Listen to every game and the best Pens coverage on 578 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 4: your home at the Pittsburgh Penguins one O five. 579 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 3: To nine d X from the one oh five nine 580 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 3: the ex Weather Center. 581 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 4: It's going to be partly cloudy and cold today, Hi 582 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 4: of only seventeen clear to partly cloudy. 583 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 3: And it's the Mark Mannon Pregame show on one oh 584 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 3: five nine DX. 585 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: First hour of the show brought to aspire good friends 586 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: at Shendorovit, Shendrovich and Fishman. They charged twenty five percent, 587 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: the others charged forty. Tom, what have we got for 588 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: today's trifectam? 589 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 3: For today's trifectam? 590 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 4: Mark, Since we're in the midst of a coaching search 591 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 4: right now for the Steelers, I picked three coaching hires 592 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 4: in movies that I think you could say are objectively 593 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 4: bad coaching hires. This is going to take some explaining 594 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 4: for these because they're movies, right, So a lot of 595 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 4: these coaches are getting over number three. I'll put Jimmy 596 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 4: Dugan on there in a league of their own, because 597 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 4: he did work out and did help the team in 598 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 4: the end. But you have to say, at the time, 599 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 4: what a terrible move that was. He was a fallover 600 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 4: or drunk. He was a sexist. I mean, he was terrible. 601 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: Higher, let me ask you, Jimmy, you're still a fall 602 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: down drunk. Well, that certainly is blunt. 603 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 4: Mister Harvey number two, and you're gonna have to go 604 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 4: with the other one. I'm gonna go with Jackie Moon 605 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 4: and his decision to hire himself to be the head coach. 606 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 4: Just a terrible head coach. 607 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 2: But come on, guys, he plays power forward for his 608 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 2: own team, but. 609 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 3: He follows it up with a great head coaching higher 610 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 3: with monics. 611 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 4: Although actually, now that I'm thinking about it, he was 612 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 4: kind of mutinied into making that higher. 613 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: Well, no, no, Jackie was still the head coach monics 614 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: was offensive defens how. 615 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 4: Can I forget That's blasphemous that I would forget that 616 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 4: OC and DC monics. Number one though, is Lou Brown 617 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 4: from Major League, Because from Rachel Phelps's perspective, it was 618 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 4: the absolute worst hire she could have ever made. Right, 619 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 4: she was hiring guy to look to fail and he 620 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 4: was the best manager to win. 621 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,959 Speaker 1: That's one of the logic holes. Well, every movie has 622 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: a lot of holes in logic. But the GM Charlie 623 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: Dunovan didn't know who lu Bron was. Of course he 624 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: would know who he was if he managed in the 625 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: minor league to the Toledo Mudhens right right right. 626 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 2: Down the road. 627 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: I assumed they were the farm team and the Indians 628 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: in the storyline. But one of my favorite lines that 629 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: movie is, Lou, how would you like to manage the 630 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: Cleveland Indians? 631 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 2: I don't know, Charlie. 632 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: I've got a guy in the other line about some 633 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: white walls. I'm gonna have to get back to you. 634 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: Just tremendous stuff. That's a good trifecta. Brought to us 635 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: by Danny's Pettern Hogies, Pittsburgh's original oven bake togy since 636 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty. That's Danny's o root ad to ad in 637 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: Bethel Park. Tom I gotten a bit of a skirmish, 638 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: a short one with a guy on Twitter. He's like 639 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: a podcast, a blogger, some like X minor league hockey 640 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: guy who thinks he's an expert. And he said that 641 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: you know, Taves came back to Chicago last night playing 642 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: for Winnipeg, right, And by the way, Tave stinks now awful. 643 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: And he said every kid grew every kid playing hockey 644 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: grew up wanting to be like Jonathan Paves, like every center. 645 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: And I go, what you never heard of, Sydney Crossby? 646 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: And I said, Taves is the most overrated player that 647 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: I remembered Hawk history. And the guy of course, and 648 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people on Twitter forgot that when you 649 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: say overrated, it doesn't mean the guy blows or was insignificant. 650 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: It means he's just not as good as people say 651 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: like Taves should have never been. Remember that centennial the 652 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: NHL's top one hundred players. Taves made it and Malkin didn't. 653 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: That's absurd talking so much better than Taves in his prime, 654 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: and and certainly now look who had the staying power. 655 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 4: I used to you know, high school into college, Tom, 656 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 4: you know, that's that stretch when the black Hawks we running, 657 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 4: then into the Penguins winning. Used to hate Jonathan Taves 658 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 4: just because of the comparisons that would always be made 659 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 4: to Sand and how people would try to put them 660 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 4: on that same pedestal. 661 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: Sarah Spain, Who's just a dipstick. He's a leader, He's 662 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: the greatest. I mean, come on, Sid's a better leader. 663 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: Sid's a bigger winner, yes, and better everything. And Taves 664 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: did win three Cups and he was the captain. But 665 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: but but the podcaster said, you know, talking about Taves 666 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: as gold medals. Okay, Like, okay, Sid was on those 667 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: teams too. There's been a lot more. 668 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: He's got the golden goal. Maybe you've heard of it. 669 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 4: Also, Mark Taves great player, don't get me wrong, and 670 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 4: it is prime a huge contributor to the Blackhawks dynasty. 671 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 4: Then that run Kine was the best player on the 672 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 4: team though, like it was Patty Kane's Blackhawks. No one 673 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 4: thinks that Jonathan Taves was the one driving. 674 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 2: And you can argue that Duncan Keith made impact. Yeah 675 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 2: yeah on defense. 676 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: Tom of the coaching dismissals and we're including Tom Win 677 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: in that even though he did quit, and he did quit. 678 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: But the of the of the guys who left their jobs, 679 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: which one should feel the most hard done by, which 680 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: in your mind was a bad firing. 681 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 3: That's a really great question. 682 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 4: It might honestly be Stefanski because his ownership just completely 683 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 4: hijacked pretty much every decision making. He couldn't Watson contract doom, Yeah, 684 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 4: and I don't know if he was, and then drafting 685 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 4: I mean not after drafting Gabriel right right at the 686 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 4: owner's behest. 687 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: Yes, that didn't help Stefanski either. 688 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 4: Because you know, the owner just saw Shador keep slipping 689 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 4: and slipping and he was like, get it on the 690 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 4: phone right now and get me Stefanski into that war room. 691 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 4: We gotta take Shador. It's falling into our laps right now. 692 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 4: So he was just dealing with a medaling owner a lot, 693 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 4: and through that he was still able to make the 694 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 4: playoffs a couple times with the Browns, beat the Steelers 695 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 4: in the playoff game. 696 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: Got coach here twice. 697 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, like you said, beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh in 698 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: a playoff game, which he's such a superior coach, he 699 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: didn't even have to show up for that. Remember he 700 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: had coached Couch, right, right, right. I think he might 701 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: be right, But I would say it's McDermott because of that. 702 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: As I mentioned earlier, McDermott deserves some credit for developing 703 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: Allen and Buffalo because Alan came from Wyoming hardly a 704 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: football power, was very raw, no guarantees when you brought 705 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: him in. And obviously you know a lot of people 706 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: went into developing Josh Allen there, but probably nobody more 707 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: than McDermott. And under McDermott, Allen became the best quarterback 708 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: in football. I'llbeit a guy who can't win big games. 709 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 4: The only thing I would say against McDermott, though, is 710 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 4: the defense for the Bills just hasn't been able to 711 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 4: really catch up to that offensive side of the ball. 712 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 4: They haven't been able to feel a defense recently that's 713 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 4: good enough to get to a super Bowl with Josh Allen, 714 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 4: and that's his that's what he's supposed to bring to 715 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 4: the table, So I would say that's a point against him. 716 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 4: But I think Bean it should have been a total 717 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 4: clean house if you're gonna do anything from Bakula. The 718 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 4: fact that Beans still gets to stay around The number 719 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 4: one problem is that roster can struct. 720 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: I said, beans has Pagola his ear. That's how you 721 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: survive with Pogol. You have his ear, you get to 722 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: meet with him. Ever, it's like, I'll give it an example. 723 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: I hope, I hope wrestling fans are listening. It's like 724 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: AE W with Tony Kahan. 725 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: Who's who we like? 726 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: Tony was in the studio. But if you're Tony's buddy, 727 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: you get a lot of TV time. If you have 728 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: his ear, you're a star. 729 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 3: That's the way to get on. Just talk him up. 730 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 2: It's not the way to wanting. 731 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: Uh taul one one last thing before before we end 732 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: the first hour. If you could pick one guy for 733 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: the Steelers not to hire, who would be Who's who 734 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: would be the worst hire they could make? And I 735 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: want the fans to call in at the fans I 736 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: saw like mister Friday afternoon. I want callers at a three, three, 737 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: four one two w XDX. Who's the guy you wouldn't hire? 738 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: That'll be for calls on the fifties. But who's the 739 00:30:58,840 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: guy you wouldn't hire? 740 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 4: It's two guys in my mind right now, it's the 741 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 4: Weaver guy in Miami or it's Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy 742 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 4: gives me pause because he's an offensive mine, but I'll 743 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 4: final answer Mike McCarthy don't why. 744 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:09,959 Speaker 2: Why don't you want him to hire? 745 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 4: I just don't feel like he has any juice. Really, 746 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 4: I feel like there's a lot of other guys that 747 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 4: have more juice. 748 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: I don't disagree. You know who I wouldn't hire. I 749 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: don't think of Miami's defense too. I think Forest. Why 750 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: are people ignoring that Forest was an absolute disaster as 751 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: a head. 752 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 3: Coach in Miami. 753 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 4: McDaniel far greater success in Miami as a head coach, 754 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 4: and the Steelers don't want to talk to him at all. 755 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, I'm I'm outraged they never talked 756 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: to Stefanski. I'm getting to that point with Mike McDaniel 757 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: based on how many teams are talking to him, although 758 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: time will tell if somebody hires him. But if he 759 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: goes to Baltimore, the Steelers are gonna get trampled by 760 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: Lamar under McDaniel, mark my words. 761 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 3: Think would be great high for them. 762 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 4: Like I said, I think Buffalo and Baltimore should both 763 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 4: be trying to get into bed with him, he'd be 764 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 4: perfect for them. 765 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: Well, I think Steeler fans need to be patient Tom, 766 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: because a new day will dawn for those who's wait. 767 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: I've done that a couple of times in the last week. 768 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: One oh five nine the X. 769 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: Now here's your chance to win one that