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Speaker 1: So this is the Mark Mannon Show. Rever Hans, top

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Speaker 1: of the league, Rever Hans, Reverhans, top.

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Speaker 2: Of the league.

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Speaker 1: Jenor Sanders won his first start for Cleveland, and like

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Speaker 1: I said, Miles Garrett was utterly dominant. Pickins made this

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Speaker 1: unreal catch. Had a huge day for Dallas. Bit Uh,

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Speaker 1: the big thing is Dallas upset Philadelphia field goal at

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Speaker 1: the death, big comeback. Cowboys still kind of in a Heck,

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Speaker 1: every team in the friggin League is still kind of

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Speaker 1: in it. Lucky for you because the Steelers are still

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Speaker 1: kind of in it. But guess what. They're in second

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Speaker 1: place right now. Guess what, They're not in a playoff

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Speaker 1: spot right now. Guess what I told you. I told you,

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Speaker 1: I told you, I told you they have one hope.

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Speaker 1: They have one hope, one hope, one hope. Do you

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Speaker 1: know what that one hope is. I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1: That one hope is to win at Baltimore on December seventh,

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Speaker 1: a day that we'll live in infant Penguins are just

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Speaker 1: one point excuse me, got just one point out of

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Speaker 1: four in two games at home on the weekend, and

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Speaker 1: they're definitely on the slide.

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Speaker 2: I should get this in there.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of a news item that Hoffman Group in

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Speaker 1: Chicago will not be buying the Penguins. I broke that

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, that deal is dead. Fenway Sports Group isn't

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Speaker 1: pissed about the deal dying. Fenway ain't looking to dump

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Speaker 1: the team per se. It's just that the Hoffman Group

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Speaker 1: didn't have enough cash on hand, wasn't liquid enough to

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Speaker 1: make the deal go. Mario and Burkele are not back in.

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Speaker 1: I repeat, don't fantasize it's not gonna happen. FSG is

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Speaker 1: appointing somebody to be in Pittsburgh full time to oversee

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Speaker 2: And that's good. It's it's long overdue. Dan Mues real

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Speaker 2: mad after the overtime lost Saturday.

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Speaker 1: That's good, that's good, talked about it wasn't good enough,

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Speaker 1: be mad. If we think this team can make the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and right now, by the way, they are not in

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Speaker 1: a playoff spot, either them and the Steelers, then Dan

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Speaker 1: Muse should get mad. There was something about this FSG

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Speaker 1: th and I forget what it is, oh well, could

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Speaker 1: be too important. It just involves the sale of the

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Speaker 1: hockey team I've supported since I was a boy.

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Speaker 2: Back to Stiller Talk, where did I put my notes? Today?

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Speaker 1: Is gonna be amazing? At least it should be. I

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Speaker 1: need you to call, like even three o'clock. I'll take calls.

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Speaker 1: Then we're gonna bring Tommy Radio on it a minute,

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Speaker 1: But even three o'clock, I'll take calls then, because if

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Speaker 1: you're not mad, you should be. But I bet you're

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Speaker 1: not mad because you're stupid. And I am being really

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Speaker 1: hard on the Steelers and really hard on you today

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Speaker 1: because I knew how this would go, and it's going

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Speaker 1: just like I said. They're not good, they're badly coached.

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Speaker 1: What don't you get? It's not Mason Rudolph, no matter

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Speaker 1: what you think. And Aaron Rodgers, well he might have

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Speaker 1: won that game, he might have figured out something those

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Speaker 1: last two possessions. But Rudolph did about what we didn't expect. Hey,

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Speaker 1: here's the bottom line. Your backup quarterback played, you lost

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Speaker 1: by less than a score, and your defense allowed thirty

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Speaker 1: one points. So I know what i'd put to blame.

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Speaker 1: But then again, I'm a lot smarter than you. Uh

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Speaker 1: Toma just doesn't know what he's doing. He's cowardly and clueless.

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Speaker 1: And again I say, I'm gonna say it all day,

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Speaker 1: tune in elsewhere if you don't want to hear the

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Speaker 2: It's not a very good team. It's not.

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Speaker 1: Uh Nardozzi made that awful fake punt call up fourteen

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Speaker 1: at Georgia Tech and almost blew the game. Pitt won anyway,

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Speaker 1: on Saturday. Like I said, that's Nardoozi wanting attention. Look

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Speaker 1: the genius coach sealed the game with that face. Oh

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Speaker 1: he didn't make it. They almost lost, but they won.

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Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you, Nardoozy might be adulled. But

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Speaker 1: Tomin makes Dardoozi look like Chuck Nole dipton Bill Walsh.

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Speaker 1: And right now, like I said, the Steelers are not

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Speaker 1: I guarantee it. How can they fix this? They're still

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Speaker 2: My god? Oh did I mention? Baltimore is in first

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Speaker 1: The Steelers had a three and a half game lead

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Speaker 1: I bet Baltimore winds up winning the division by three games.

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Speaker 1: But wait, let's go down to Dow. They always play

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Speaker 1: good against Baltimore. They'll beat Baltimore, no problem. They're still

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Speaker 1: a very good team and Tom was a terrible coach

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Speaker 1: and that's the bottom line because what we all see

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Speaker 2: Tom.

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Speaker 1: The coaching miscues really powed up by Tom, don't you think.

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Speaker 1: I mean I'd have gone forward on fourth and nine.

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Speaker 2: I get not.

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Speaker 1: I'd have kicked it, you know, sixty four yards at

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Speaker 3: Well, to me, it's just they always coach scared. At

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Speaker 3: every opportunity that they can get, they coach scared. They

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Speaker 3: try to be the most conservative team that they can

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Speaker 3: possibly be. I mean, you look at that passing chart

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Speaker 3: from Mason Rudolph in this game. It's disgusting. I can't

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Speaker 3: believe that that's an NFL quarterback passing chart. They just would

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Speaker 3: I hate the scared nature in punting goes into that

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Speaker 1: Don't you feel, though, that we got enough from Rudolph

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Speaker 1: and that the defense once again is dodging blame. You know,

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Speaker 1: they got up thirty one points, three hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: But I don't think takeaways necessarily make up for lack

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: You have the strip sack touchdown, but that's just deodorant

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Speaker 3: for a really abysmal performance from the pass rush. Well,

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Speaker 3: but I mean they had one quarterback hit Mark aside

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Speaker 3: I mean Williams had the easiest game he's had all season.

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Speaker 2: They only had two passes defense.

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Speaker 3: They both came in the second, So the people on

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Speaker 2: They did nothing upfront.

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Speaker 1: Cam's an old man. He has to hold onto his walker.

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Speaker 1: He can't always get his arms up. I give ka

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Speaker 1: Well Williams degree of credit. Though he struggled mightily in

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Speaker 2: It out in the second. It's a sign that he

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Speaker 3: Don't you think that he had a play that looked

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Speaker 3: as bad as that stripsack did, because that was really

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Speaker 2: Just get out, get out of the end zone.

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Speaker 1: He should have just got rid of me and he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, once you are going down, tuck that ball. In

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Speaker 3: the fact that he was still so loose with it

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Speaker 3: was just it was a rookie kind of play. But

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Speaker 3: the fact he bounced back from that and Mark, remember

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Speaker 3: the Bears fumbled on their next possession too, Why you

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Speaker 3: black stole the ball away?

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Speaker 2: Williams was fine.

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Speaker 3: He was like, whatever, well, weather this storm, I'll have

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Speaker 3: a touchdown drive on our next possession, and he did.

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Speaker 1: Where are the Steelers at now in the AFC North

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Speaker 1: and in the playoff picture out?

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Speaker 3: Well, presently they're obviously out. Literally happen? Where does it

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Speaker 2: Turre me out. They're not going to make the playoffs

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Speaker 1: You know whaten't surprised me though, in this sounds like

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Speaker 1: something that say down the dial they could beat Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: but they could beat Buffalo. Yeah, Buffalo's got the best

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Speaker 1: quarterback in football right this second. But other than that,

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Speaker 1: the team stinks There running back Cook he's good too.

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Speaker 1: You know what, though, I'm gonna backtrack. I'm gonna pick

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Speaker 1: Buffalo because they'll score enough points.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you there, I just don't think Josh

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Speaker 3: Allen's gonna let the Bills lose this game and the

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Speaker 2: Aren't gonna offer he just let him lose to Houston. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but Houston's got the best defense in football.

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Speaker 3: The Steelers defense is not gonna offer enough resistance to

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen in a game that the Bills just as

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Speaker 3: desperately need to win.

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Speaker 1: And Baltimore is now a top the division on a

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Speaker 1: tie breaker, same record, and Baltimore struggled to beat the Jets,

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Speaker 2: That's five wins in a row.

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Speaker 1: But you know what they're probably saying down the dial, Well,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers struggled to beat the Jets too, and Baltimore

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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: I just hate that my prediction of six and six

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Speaker 3: verse six and six isn't gonna come true because the

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Speaker 3: Ravens are gonna be seven and five. They're gonna win

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Speaker 3: every single game leading into that Steelers game. Then they

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Speaker 3: will beat the Steelers and they will create and then

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Speaker 3: that will create what it will be a two game

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Speaker 3: cushion at that point. I mean, they won't play starters

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Speaker 3: week eighteen at Akrossure Stadium.

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Speaker 1: I still think that December seventh game, Tom is going

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Speaker 1: to be so fetch and I will make fetch happen.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm doing now on the trip, I'm

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Speaker 1: inserting the term fetch and every column, every column, just

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Speaker 1: find an excuse.

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Speaker 2: I will make fetch happen. Even if what was her name?

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Speaker 1: The character's name, Regina George, No, no, Regina said that.

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Speaker 3: Who oh the other one? I don't know the other

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Speaker 3: one's names. I know Amanda Seefried was one of the

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Speaker 3: actress's names. I can't remember.

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Speaker 2: They actually smoking all of them, Oh my, all of it.

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Speaker 2: I mean the funny part was Regina George, the actress

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Speaker 2: from That's Rachel McAdams. Yeah. She she was in uh

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Speaker 2: wedding crashes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, she was the least detractive of the group,

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Speaker 1: but she was really hot.

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Speaker 2: Boy, A power ranking of those four girls. You might

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Speaker 2: be right, So we need to do that.

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Speaker 1: Save that for the summer because we got all the

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Speaker 2: But yeah, power rank the mean girls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and Amanda Seefried that how you pronounced that?

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Speaker 2: That's right?

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Speaker 1: She played Linda Lovelace and the Linda Lovelace biopick, which

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Speaker 1: was brilliant. Anybody's not seen the Linda Lovelace biopick titled

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Speaker 3: And I just love how Seafreed's character in Mean Girls

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Speaker 3: is just so ditsy, you know what I mean, I

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Speaker 1: Now, by the way, did you see that Pickens catching

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Speaker 1: if he was here in Pittsburgh, he wouldn't have the stats,

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Speaker 2: I think so too.

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Speaker 3: I think that I'm starting to think that the Steelers

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Speaker 3: have not a decent amount of blame, but some blame

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Speaker 3: when it comes to what was wrong with Pickens, because

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Speaker 3: the offense is too prehistoric for.

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Speaker 2: Someone like that.

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Speaker 1: Now, I don't think you win with Pickens, but but

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Speaker 1: I do gotta say, you know, I understand more now

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Speaker 1: and Sideline targets him said, man, this ain't fetch one

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Speaker 2: Hey, we're in your smart speakers. It's the Mark MANX.

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Speaker 1: Just to clarify, I'm not happy the Steelers lost.

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Speaker 2: I mean not that happy.

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Speaker 1: I just I just the mad that they won't solve

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Speaker 1: their problems. And I'm mad that people think this can

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Speaker 1: be fixed. I mean fix to what level. Fixed to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, it can get to that level. I

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Speaker 2: don't think it will, but it could.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just mad that that nobody thinks big picture

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Speaker 1: that we saw a bit of that yesterday when Rogers

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Speaker 1: next week against Buffalo and moving forward. That said, it

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Speaker 1: strikes me more and more than that was a Rogers' decision,

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's look at Mason Rudolph. Here's the numbers.

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Speaker 1: Twenty four out of thirty one for Bucks, seventy one

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Speaker 1: one touchdown, one pick. Passer rating eighty six point nine.

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Speaker 1: That is slightly above average, very slightly, not even a

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Speaker 1: that next test will be. Rudolph didn't lose the game,

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Speaker 1: nor did he win it. That early pick was a

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Speaker 1: bad look, but DK needs the battle more. He let

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Speaker 1: he plays small looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. Rudolph

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Speaker 1: was asked to dink and dunk and he did just

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Speaker 1: game was very good, one hundred and eighty six rushing yards,

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Speaker 1: although they fed up the tush push. They're pushing the back,

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Speaker 1: and I know you think Rudolph lost the game because

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Speaker 1: talking about the quarterback is all dopes understand or think

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Speaker 1: they understand. But Rudolph didn't lose the game. Rogers might

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Speaker 1: have won the game. I'd like to have seen him

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Speaker 1: on those last two possessions. Tom Win said Rogers should

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Speaker 1: be back against Buffalo this coming Sunday. Yeah, he'll probably

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Speaker 1: opt old Josh Allen. But coaching lost that game, and

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Speaker 1: the defense lost the game more than the quarterbacking lost

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Speaker 1: the game. Let's talk to Tommy Radio. Tom The coaching

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Speaker 1: miskews piled up and the defense lost the game more

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Speaker 1: than anything, I think. But here we are blaming Mason Rudolph.

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Speaker 1: And I thought he played okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought he played okay too.

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Speaker 3: And if you're someone that's gonna blame Mason Rudolph, like

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Speaker 3: what are you pointing to? You're pointing to the interception

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Speaker 3: on the first pass of the game. You're one hundred

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Speaker 3: percent when it comes to that could have been a

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Speaker 3: better placed ball.

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Speaker 2: But DK Metcalf make a play on it. Please, You're huge,

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Speaker 2: go up and get a ball deep early.

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Speaker 1: Even though I want them to throw deep more than

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Speaker 1: they do, whether it's with Rudolph or Rogers. Like, the

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Speaker 1: guy hasn't played much in how long I'd let him

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Speaker 1: get in a shorter rhythm as opposed to, you know,

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Speaker 1: jumping the gun with the long ball. That said, he

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Speaker 1: he did throw a pick. I mean, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to absolve from any blame. I just don't think he's

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Speaker 3: I feel it deep early, but the situation begged for it, right.

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Speaker 3: It was second and one, they were pressed up on DK.

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Speaker 3: You gotta go there.

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Speaker 1: It's just incredible that they won't throw in the middle ever, ever, ever,

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Speaker 1: And that is why, you know what, I'm having an epiphany, Tom,

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Speaker 1: That's probably why the tight ends aren't very involved, because

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Speaker 1: you use tight ends in the middle.

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Speaker 2: That's why they're not sideline guys.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, So when you're blaming Rudolph, if it's not the interception,

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Speaker 3: is it the dink and dunk nature to how he played?

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Speaker 3: That was coaching, That was what the game plan was,

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Speaker 3: and he executed it perfectly. Is it the strip sack?

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Speaker 3: Is it coughing up the ball when you were driving

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Speaker 3: an infield goal range? Why did you have Darnell Washington

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Speaker 3: won on one with Montes Sweat. That was the problem there,

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Speaker 3: not Rudolph not being aware in the pocket or holding

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Speaker 3: onto the football. Montes Sweat isn't an elite pass rusher,

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Speaker 1: I will say I wish Rogers could have had a

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Speaker 1: You know, like like he played good, he threw three tds,

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Speaker 1: But you gotta take more deep shots and use the

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Speaker 1: middle of the field war if you're the Steelers. No

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Speaker 1: matter who the quarterback is, the offense as it's deployed

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Speaker 1: never feels like a threat.

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Speaker 2: There's never a quick strike.

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Speaker 1: Look at the Steelers' touchdowns drives yesterday, thirteen plays, seven plays,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Tom, it's not that kind of league. Even

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Speaker 3: And they just have no player that other teams fear like.

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Speaker 3: There are players that put up the most statistics are

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Speaker 3: most explosive plays.

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Speaker 2: On the team.

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Speaker 3: But teams don't lose sleep over stopping Gainwell or Warren.

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Speaker 3: It's supposed to be DK, and he's been invisible, and.

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Speaker 1: They figured out the DK ain't that he is not

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Speaker 3: But I think you're onto something when you say it's

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Speaker 3: but maybe he did. But I just find that hard

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Speaker 1: I see, I think again. I go back and forth.

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Speaker 1: The defense sucks. Thirty one points is too many. The

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Speaker 1: no time on stuff for the Steelers. But I keep

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Speaker 1: coming back to the coaching as the primary culprit. I

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Speaker 2: I don't think they have any clue what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: I think they're coaching in a fashion that's so outdated

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Speaker 2: Chance half the time. No, I agree with that.

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Speaker 3: I think that the players aren't being put into good situations.

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Speaker 2: Look at the Bears second half. Think DK regrets coming here.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, because he's got thirty million dollars in

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Speaker 3: his bank account, but there you go.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that wears off the next year. Quarterback money Does

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 3: After a while, Like after maybe next year and you're

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Speaker 3: still not getting your target this week. This gets old, right,

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Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball. I don't know exactly

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Speaker 3: the numbers. I don't imagine that they blitzed very much

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Speaker 3: But those adjustments just never seem to happen. They have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they script the plays at the beginning of

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Speaker 1: they don't at all deviate from that. And little moments

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Speaker 1: I haven't yet mentioned that a penalty took away that

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Speaker 1: Porter interception which he almost fumbled away. That could have

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Speaker 1: been bizarre, Tom, because you know the Bear's got a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, her big jumps.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So if Porter would have Porter did fumble the

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Speaker 3: Porter exactly, and they get the ball right there because

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was ridiculous. I have done, but but

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Speaker 3: But someone who grew up in a football household like

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Speaker 2: You just have to. That saves three points at the

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Speaker 1: Now that illegal formation penalty that called back Rudolph Scramble.

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Speaker 1: Because I see people blaming Rudolph that he's should have

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Speaker 3: I think that Rudolph should have spotted it. He's just

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Speaker 3: it's the person who lined up wrong who's most to blame.

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Speaker 3: You're an NFL player, lineup on the.

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Speaker 1: Rodgers on the side one yelling that's so legal, that's illegal.

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Speaker 1: And that was the only time we saw is his

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Speaker 3: we're gonna get this play called back. People that point

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna happen now, No, was it dirty?

439
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Speaker 2: It was twenty two? Well whatever run that long? Yeah?

440
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Speaker 1: Like when when when he held up his arms when

441
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Speaker 1: he was yelling that's the legal, I said, Well, at

442
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Speaker 1: least his left arm didn't get amputated. We've seen his arm,

443
00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 1: just not yet his wife. Now, what's your take. I

444
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Speaker 1: gotta get this in there. What's your pick on the

445
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Speaker 1: pit win at Georgia Tech. You're a pit guy and

446
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Speaker 1: on Nordoozy's absurd fake.

447
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Speaker 3: Punt, Well, they'm sorry. Fake punt was ridiculous. I think

448
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 3: what you said at the beginning of the show. It

449
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 3: was such a show me move, kind of like I'm

450
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Speaker 3: trying to make the big splash. Coach does you had

451
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Speaker 3: one hundred yard pick six. You already made the splash

452
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Speaker 3: in that game. All you had to do was milk clock.

453
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Speaker 3: That's it. That's the rest of the game plan. It

454
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Speaker 3: was so arrogant that he went for that. They do

455
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Speaker 3: win despite him. But here they are, Mark with a

456
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Speaker 3: chance to go to the AEC Championships to happen, for

457
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Speaker 3: them to go to the a SEC Championship game, beat Miami.

458
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Speaker 1: By the way, moving forward, you are our total correspondent

459
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Speaker 1: on what has to happen because I don't care.

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Speaker 3: Gotcha beat Miami, that's number one. Then they need either

461
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Speaker 3: Virginia to lose to Virginia Tech. Virginia Tech thinks, but

462
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Speaker 3: that's a rivalry game.

463
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Speaker 1: Frank coaching right now, or he's taking over seasons out, Yeah,

464
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Speaker 1: seasons even the interim guy in he's just recruiting right now.

465
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Speaker 2: Good decision by him. Oh yeah, you can't do that.

466
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Speaker 3: They have to lose to Virginia Tech, or SMU has

467
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Speaker 3: to lose to cal if SMU and Virginia Tech win,

468
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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what Pitt does.

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Speaker 2: They play in the final Virginia and who would play

470
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Speaker 2: in the championship game.

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Speaker 3: If they win and SMU loses, it would be Pitt Virginia.

472
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Speaker 3: If Virginia loses, it'd be Pit SMU. If both those

473
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Speaker 3: team loses and Pitt wins, it's like a four way tie.

474
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Speaker 3: It could be Pitt Georgia Tech. Again, it could be

475
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Speaker 3: Pit Miami, but Pitt would be in regardless, it would

476
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Speaker 3: be in.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

478
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Speaker 2: Could do you see.

479
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Speaker 1: Pitt making the playoff if they beat Miami but don't

480
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Speaker 1: get in the ACC championship game?

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Speaker 2: No, they lost to West Virginia. That eliminates to you.

482
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Speaker 1: Now let me ask you, there's a Pit fan and

483
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Speaker 1: trying to read Nardoozi's obviously feeble mind. I think Nardoozi

484
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Speaker 1: would be happy. He still a lot of Pitt fans

485
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Speaker 1: with winning out but not making the ACC, not making

486
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Speaker 1: the national playoff, because then it doesn't end bad. And

487
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Speaker 1: you have the complaint because Pitt fans love to complain.

488
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Speaker 2: I know you do. Yeah, but here's my complaint.

489
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Speaker 3: Back to Nardoozi, you jackass, if that's an area does

490
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Speaker 3: play out, if you would have focused on the Notre

491
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Speaker 3: Dame game a little bit more and beat Notre Dame.

492
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Speaker 3: You might have had a case for an at large

493
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Speaker 3: bit here for the playoff.

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Speaker 1: I don't I think Pitt could have beat Notre day

495
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Speaker 1: Man West Virginia and they're not getting that large bit. Oh.

496
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Speaker 3: I don't know about that. A one lost ACC team

497
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Speaker 3: they would get in a win over Notre Dame too.

498
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Speaker 3: Notre Dame is a real good team.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. Joel one O five ninety X.

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Speaker 2: It's the Woody Show tomorrow morning from six till ten.

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Speaker 1: Whoa you got a Wednesday about the three t's of Thanksgiving?

502
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Speaker 2: Right Turkey?

503
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Speaker 1: Well that's the food table, that's for holding the food

504
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Speaker 1: and touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's for the winning with draft.

506
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Speaker 1: I reported earlier that the Penguins purchased by the Hoffmin

507
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Speaker 1: Group in Illinois is dead. They're not funded well enough,

508
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Speaker 1: they don't have the liquid cash. Now I'm told that iHeartMedia,

509
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Speaker 1: our parent corporation is in potentially as a byron, and

510
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Speaker 1: that they would appoint me the next EM. No, I

511
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Speaker 1: don't want to fire Kyle. Well, it depends what the

512
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Speaker 1: money would be.

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Speaker 2: Tom.

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Speaker 1: We're doing the Steelers post mortem after that. You know

515
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Speaker 1: it was a narrow loss, But I keep calling it

516
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Speaker 1: a disaster because in terms of you should have won

517
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Speaker 1: the game, you had it in your grasp in the

518
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Speaker 1: first half, and now your playoff picture looks pretty sucky.

519
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Speaker 2: I think it was a disaster.

520
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Speaker 1: Sure. Early outlook on the home game against Buffalo next Sunday,

521
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: who were barely ahead of the Steelers in the playoff picture.

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Speaker 1: I've seen the Bills play enough to think that except

523
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Speaker 1: for Josh Allen, who might be the best quarterback, the

524
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Speaker 1: Bill suck.

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Speaker 3: Oh, the Bills definitely suck around Josh Allen. They're seven

526
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Speaker 3: and four, seven and four, and he is doing herculean

527
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Speaker 3: things to get them that seven. I mean like they

528
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Speaker 3: would be one of the worst teams in football.

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Speaker 2: Phrase. Thank you, don't ever sound smarter than me again,

530
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Speaker 2: I promise I won't.

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Speaker 3: My early outlook on the game, the Steelers need to

532
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Speaker 3: run the football because the Bills have one of the

533
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Speaker 3: worst running defenses in the league.

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Speaker 1: They ran it against me, didn't pan out, and I thought,

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Speaker 1: you know what's funny they got They got so many

536
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Speaker 1: yards and gain what was up near one hundred individually

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Speaker 1: and warned did good too? I thought they dumped out

538
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Speaker 1: of the running game a bit early. They always did, yeah,

539
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Speaker 1: like without reason to do it. That said, I don't

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Speaker 1: think it was the Offensi's fault they lost, So I

541
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Speaker 1: hate to like, I hate the nitpick with the offense

542
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Speaker 1: because the yokals out there who just want to blame

543
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Speaker 1: Rudolph will let that add up in their feeble minds.

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Speaker 3: You know, they ran the ball thirty six times, so

545
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Speaker 3: it's hard for me to say that there was a

546
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Speaker 3: lack of commitment in this game to running the football.

547
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Speaker 3: But you're right, it felt like there were moments later

548
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 3: in the game they should have run it even more

549
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 3: and they were kind of resistant to do that. And

550
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Speaker 3: they have been resistant to commit to this running game,

551
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Speaker 3: even though it's shown some signs. It was good numbers wise,

552
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Speaker 3: but I think we have to remember a bit skewed

553
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Speaker 3: because of the gain weell fake push push a bit skewed.

554
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Speaker 3: Now those yards count, but I'm just saying the traditional

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Speaker 3: running the football sense too.

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Speaker 2: It was awesome that ripped off. Didn't Philadelphia do that?

557
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Speaker 2: Or who did that? Mark Andrews?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Andrews just took a snap and kind of

559
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Speaker 3: did a pirouette and ran himself. He didn't do the

560
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Speaker 3: hand I kind of like the handoff more than the

561
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Speaker 3: tight end actually spinning out.

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Speaker 2: I showed a lot of contempt for the audience today,

563
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Speaker 2: haven't I.

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Speaker 1: They deserve it that with that mine this the pregame

565
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Speaker 1: show brought to us by Senderova, Shendroovich and Fisherman. They've

566
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: got your back, not your wallet. And if you're unhappy

567
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Speaker 1: with what I'm saying, you can enlist them to sue me.

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Speaker 3: You asked me about early. I look to the Bills.

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Speaker 3: One more thing I'll throw in there. They are not

570
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Speaker 3: good at passing the football because Allen has no receivers,

571
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Speaker 3: no threats. Worst pass defense in the league is the

572
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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers. Here comes the medicine for Buffalo as far

573
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Speaker 3: as they're passing offense.

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Speaker 2: Is that Onen the best quarterback in football right this second? Yes?

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Speaker 2: I think so, right this very second. He is.

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Speaker 3: How much do his legs have to do with that?

577
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Speaker 3: A pretty decent amount. But he's still an unbelievable thrower

578
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Speaker 3: of the football too. He's got a cannon for an arm.

579
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Speaker 3: He's crazy accurate, which was a knock on him coming

580
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Speaker 3: out of Wyoming. But he's gotten so much better. If

581
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Speaker 3: they didn't have Josh Allen, this Bills team would be

582
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Speaker 3: four and seven, three and eight, they'd be garbage.

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Speaker 1: They'd be in positioned to draft the next Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: Kansas City beat Indian overtime. What's to say about where

585
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Speaker 1: both them teams are at.

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Speaker 3: I just think Kansas City has just had a couple

587
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Speaker 3: of these games this year where they're up on the

588
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Speaker 3: ropes and you think that they're going to get the

589
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 3: kill shot given to them, and they just they always

590
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Speaker 3: find a way to win the game. They're gonna be

591
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Speaker 3: gritty enough to scratch and claw their way into the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Watching the game peripherally, I still say they don't make him,

593
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Speaker 1: so they don't have to, because I've been saying it

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Speaker 1: all season.

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Speaker 2: You still have a chance for that.

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Speaker 1: Watching the game peripher I'm struck. Mahomes just is fading.

597
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Speaker 1: He's still very very good, Like if you're ninety percent

598
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Speaker 1: of what he used to be or eighty five, that's

599
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Speaker 1: still one of the top quarterbacks in football.

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Speaker 2: But I think Allen's clearly ahead of him. He is

601
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Speaker 2: Alan is ahead of him, but the Burrow were healthy,

602
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Speaker 2: so would he be.

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Speaker 3: And Lamar I think Lamar is ahead of some diicy

604
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 3: games though too, especially coming back from injury. He hasn't

605
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Speaker 3: been the quarterback that he quite was at the beginning

606
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Speaker 3: of the season when they were losing a ton of games,

607
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Speaker 3: but he was playing extremely well. It was telling on

608
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Speaker 3: the Colt side of things though, that whenever things get

609
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 3: tight and intense, Danny Dimes kind of turns into the

610
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 3: old Danny Dimes again. He had a terrible fourth quarter.

611
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Speaker 3: It wouldn't shot me if Indy were one and done

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs. I would not be shocked either. Would

613
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Speaker 3: it shock you if Skimmers will beat him? Would it

614
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Speaker 3: shock you if.

615
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Speaker 2: They blow their division?

616
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Speaker 3: Houston is just two games back now and they play

617
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Speaker 3: the Colts twice still like they control their own destiny.

618
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Speaker 3: The Texans and the Texans defense is for real. The

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Speaker 3: Colts in the Wildcard.

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Speaker 1: Made me say right now, I would say Indian Houston

621
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Speaker 1: split the games and wherever that.

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Speaker 2: Leads, that would probably lead to Indy probably winning the division.

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Speaker 1: New England barely beat Cincinnati. The AFC is wide open.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure there's a great team in the whole conference.

625
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Speaker 1: Maybe not in the whole league, but tom it won't

626
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: be long before we're saying that Shador Sanders is the

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Speaker 1: best quarterback in football.

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Speaker 2: He was eleven for twenty two hundred nine yards, but

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Speaker 2: he had.

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Speaker 1: Completions of sixty six, fifty two, thirty nine and seventeen yards.

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Speaker 1: A lot of that was jack but he had three

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Speaker 1: completions longer than Rudolph had yesterday. Why because he took

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Speaker 1: some shots and a lot of those Jak catches were

634
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Speaker 1: throws in the middle that turned into long games.

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Speaker 3: Wells Stefanski, he has an offensive mind with him. And

636
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Speaker 3: as much as people want to say it out there

637
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 3: nationally that Stefanski hates Shaudor and wants him to fail,

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Speaker 3: that's absurd.

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Speaker 2: It didn't, didn't Shannon sharpernocho sink. Yeah, they're talking about

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Speaker 2: that after the game. Why didn't you give him a

641
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Speaker 2: game ball?

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Speaker 1: Because you know, Rafanski is literally coaching for his job. Yeah,

643
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Speaker 1: he needs to win, and I hope he gets fired,

644
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Speaker 1: and I hope Tom w quits because he'd be the

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Speaker 1: guy to bring in.

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Speaker 3: By the way, good coaching to not give your ego,

647
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 3: maniacal rookie quarterback the game ball after just one win.

648
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Speaker 2: Ye, that's what them guys were bitched about. It yeah, like,

649
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: give them the game ball. He deserves it.

650
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Speaker 3: No, there's bigger goals when it comes to Shud or

651
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: Sanders than just one game ball him.

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Speaker 1: It's not because he's black, it's because he's not white. Now,

653
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Speaker 1: I did like the Steelers running game, Like we talked

654
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Speaker 1: about one hundred and eighty six yards total ninety two

655
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Speaker 1: by gain Well.

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Speaker 2: Sixty eight by Warren.

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Speaker 1: But again, the commitment wasn't sus state, which is funny

658
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Speaker 1: because to a certain point it was.

659
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Speaker 2: That's what I mean, thirty six carries in the game.

660
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Speaker 1: As a time right, I might have run even when

661
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: they trailed late on a few plays.

662
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Speaker 3: See, I think that they should be open to do that.

663
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 3: It's not even so much a Steelers specific thing. I

664
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,479
Speaker 3: think too many teams around the league do that. They

665
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 3: get away from running the football, even if they're great

666
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 3: at it, because they see they're down thirty one to

667
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 3: twenty one and they're like, oh crap, we got to

668
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 3: play catch up now, and they panic a little bit.

669
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Speaker 3: The Steelers all off season, we thought that was going

670
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: to be their identity. Run the football and then run

671
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Speaker 3: it some more. And it just feels like there's always

672
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Speaker 3: been this just resistance to that, and I don't know

673
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 3: if it's Arthur Smith, why would it be.

674
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 2: He loves running the football. Is it Rogers the quarterback?

675
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what it is.

676
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 3: But they just can't get the running game going in

677
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 3: perfect sync like they needed to.

678
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: I want your calls to come in now for the

679
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: three to fifteen calls on the fifteens, which I will

680
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: may happen, just like my use of the word fetch

681
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: and calls at that point would be so fetched by

682
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: the way, So line up now, even though it's absurd

683
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: for you to do so, because we're pretty far away

684
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: from from three to fifteen. But a three, three, four

685
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: to one to two WXDX Tom. What's your take on

686
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: the River Hans winning the USL Championship scoring one goal

687
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: total in four playoff games, to be fair, conceding none

688
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: and winning three shootouts which requires a whole lot of balls.

689
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 3: It kind of has a little bit of poetic justice

690
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 3: nature to it, right, For all the years that the

691
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 3: Hounds were like first in the league in a really

692
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 3: good contender.

693
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: Well a couple of years ago to be specific, Yet

694
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: when they lost to Detroit, it like losing to Detroit

695
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: when they finished first overall.

696
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: I think that was two years ago.

697
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: Shows the fallacy of one game playoffs in soccer, but

698
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: at least they reward from it this.

699
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 3: Year exactly at least that fallacy went in their favor.

700
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 3: So that's kind of my takeaway. You got a little

701
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 3: poetic justice out of it. Their goaltender, Dick is awesome.

702
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: I mean the save that he had, he was surviving.

703
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: He was man of the match. I believe, MVP of

704
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: the whole playoffs, I think so.

705
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it just like a couple of point blankers

706
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: off headers against Tulsa.

707
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: Just tremendous stuff.

708
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: So congratulations to the River Haunds, Robbie Merch, the local

709
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: lad sean super in the middle of the defense who

710
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: was on the show not long ago, Danny Griffin, the captain,

711
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: and most of all, Tuffy Shallenberg are the owner because

712
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: untold money and effort, dedication was put into all that.

713
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: And he's going to expand high Mark Stadium on at

714
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: Station Square. Tom and I like owners in this town

715
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,239
Speaker 1: who constantly their hands out. He can do so with

716
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: a winning product and not asking for nearly as much

717
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: as those leeches.

718
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 3: No, and it's such a cool project that they have

719
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 3: going down at Himark Stadium. It's going to bring that

720
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 3: place alive even more so. I mean the concerts that

721
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: are going to be there. Could even think about maybe

722
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 3: moving some of the high school football games. They're like,

723
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 3: they don't play.

724
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I won't have it. I don't

725
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: want football lines on that field ever. That is our

726
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: soccer cathedra. Okay, don't never mention it again. You love

727
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: high school, You'll never mention it again. River Hans, River Hans,

728
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: top of the league. River Hans, top of the league.

729
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: One oh five nine The X.

730
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 3: Wednesday night, the Pens go head to head against the Sabers.

731
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Speaker 2: Game time is seven.

732
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 3: Our coverage starts at six here every game and the

733
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Speaker 3: best coverage right here on your Home of the Pens.

734
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Speaker 1: Five nine The X.

735
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: Is the season. Some sad news.

736
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Speaker 1: A place where I've gone to for years, the Grand

737
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: Bar and Millville, which is an institution, great primary, but

738
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: on Saturday nights they're closing for good. Very sad to

739
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: hear that. Not because of financial difficulties. I just think

740
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: they didn't want to run it anymore. Uh but uh,

741
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to get their Saturday afternoon for

742
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: one last slab of prime rib and thanks to them

743
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: for being great host to me for many years.

744
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: And here's some even sadurer news, but it's funny.

745
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal of the Athletics says the Pirates never even

746
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 1: made an offer to Josh Naylor.

747
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: Remember that story, The.

748
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: Biggest free agent offer the Pirates ever made. They never

749
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: even made him an offer. Naylor, We up with Seattle.

750
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: Apparently it happened so quick, the Pirates never got a chance.

751
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: But we kept hearing it's the biggest free agent offer

752
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: they ever made, seventy four million or whatever. But the

753
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: Pirates never even made it. Everything about the Pirates is

754
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: one horseman ure and Jeff Passen is a big eared stooge.

755
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: Tom, What do we got for the trifecta?

756
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: Brought to us by Danny's Petron Hogies on Route eighty

757
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: eight in Bethel Park.

758
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 3: Today's trifecta is about George Pickens in relation to the

759
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: Steelers receiving corps.

760
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: I love it.

761
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 3: Number three Pickens has more yards yes or had more

762
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 3: yards in yesterday's game than Dk Metcalf has had in

763
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: the previous four games combined.

764
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Speaker 2: I'm not surprised.

765
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 3: Number two Pickens has just two less touchdowns on the season,

766
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Speaker 3: with eight than all of the Steelers wide receivers combined

767
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 3: with their ten. But the most laughable stat all Steelers

768
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 3: wide receivers have made up for one thousand and eighty

769
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 3: two yards so far this year. Pickens himself has one

770
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 3: thousand and fifty four. He is just he's less than

771
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: thirty yards behind them. Twenty eight yards.

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Speaker 1: Ye, tar Steelers wide receiver core, that's just the wide

773
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: wclude the tight ends, but the.

774
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: Tight ends between it probably had at least one hundred

775
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 2: yards that they would pass him.

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00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 3: Then if you include the tight ends, but I'm talking

777
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 3: about receivers only, well, no, he's slightly behind the receivers,

778
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 3: Pickens by twenty eight yards by himself.

779
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, every picture tells the story, don't it.

780
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: That said, I still think they did the right thing

781
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: not keeping him, and he would have been wasted here anyway.

782
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: Had he stayed, he'd just be unhappy here at least.

783
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: I mean, he's obviously Quirky's probably a nice way to

784
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: put it right, but he's happy there.

785
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: He wouldn't be happy here.

786
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 3: That The latter of what you said is what I'm

787
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 3: really starting to believe more and more is that he's

788
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: just a They just don't know how to use a

789
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 3: weapon like that.

790
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: No, no, they just don't want to use a weapon

791
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: like that. You think they know how?

792
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: No, I don't that that's a good point, but you know,

793
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you.

794
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: Know what's funny.

795
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: The more I see how prehistoric and crappy this offense

796
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: is with the Steelers, the less mad I am in

797
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: him for having acted up when he was here, Like, like,

798
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: if I knew I wasn't gonna get the ball in

799
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: any good situation or enough, I'd show up just before

800
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: kickoff too.

801
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 2: What's the friggin point? See?

802
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 3: Less mad about him popping off like on the field

803
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 3: and that stuff. But you got to show up before

804
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 3: the I mean, you can't show up ten minutes.

805
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: Before a game.

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00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 1: The way this offense is, I'm surprised that any receivers

807
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: show up at all except Ben's scaroniic who he cut?

808
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: He cut the longest pass yesterday, half that like and

809
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: there was was it over the middle? Kind of close?

810
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,959
Speaker 2: It was like close to being inside that funny there's

811
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Speaker 2: I forget who this was.

812
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Speaker 1: I remember the media said you win with guys like

813
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: Ben's Coronik, And I'm like, really, what's he ever won?

814
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: And secondly, fu shut the frig up. See that's the

815
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: thing the media is don to dal go there right now.

816
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: This season can be saved. Here's what you have to do.

817
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: Like that's that's the premise. A lot of people try

818
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: to drive talk with here's what you have to do.

819
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: My premise is this is a freaking Viking funeral. The

820
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: boat's on fire, it's been set out to see and

821
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: let's watch.

822
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 3: You say that stuff about Skoronic two, like he did

823
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 3: win with the Rams, he want to super with the Rams,

824
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 3: and like people probably said that he.

825
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 2: Was a bystand. That's what I'm doing with a freaking bystand.

826
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 2: People they get they give the ball boy away exactly.

827
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 3: People like to point at like a Skeronic who had

828
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 3: a big block or a big catch somewhere along the line.

829
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 3: It's like, yo, win because you got a guy like

830
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 3: that on the roster. No, you won because you had

831
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: Cooper Cup in his prime and Matt Stafford throwing him

832
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 3: the football and Jalen Ramsey, yeah in his prime still,

833
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: and Aaron Donald.

834
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Speaker 2: That's why you won.

835
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Speaker 1: Did you see this tweet? I retweeted one of the bloggers.

836
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go into this in depth in just a

837
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: few moments. But all the Steelers who have left here,

838
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: including Pickens, and have improved noticeably. And it's a relatively

839
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: recent phenomenon.

840
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 3: I haven't seen that tweet, but Pickens is obviously the

841
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: one that comes to mind Dotson in La since we

842
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 3: were just talking about the Rams. He's become a huge

843
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 3: factor on that off defensive line, a key starter for them,

844
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: and that's a team that's the super Bowl favorite right now.

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Speaker 1: There are some names, tom that you wouldn't believe or

846
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: any good and they're not stars. But like I checked

847
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: out a couple of names that you I don't want

848
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: to this is what we call the keys Tom as

849
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: you know in the radio business. I don't want to,

850
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: you know, do a spoiler. But there's some guys that go,

851
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: are you sure these guys are playing better? And then

852
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: I looked up you know, stats in a couple of

853
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: articles too, saying yeah they are.

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00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, though, this phenomenon did not apply to Chase Claypool,

855
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: who I think is selling insurance right now.

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00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: Where is he? What didn't he play Canada for? I

857
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 2: think he did end up going to Canada? What an

858
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: ass he was Chase.

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Speaker 1: If you're listening, I hope whatever's happening to you is

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Speaker 1: bad one oh five nine they x