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Speaker 2: No the way, No, I'm looking out for you, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking out for you on the Connecticut Water Systems

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Speaker 1: Hotline for the first time in twenty twenty six, he's

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Sandard Heat and Air Conditioning. He's

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Speaker 1: been Guessling making his weekly appearance on Bumper to Bumper.

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Speaker 1: Happy New Year, Ben Gesling, how are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing well guards the Happy New Year to you

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Speaker 4: guys as well.

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Speaker 1: Six four six eighty six is the bratch on Brian

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Speaker 1: Cafe in text line if you want to text Guestling

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Speaker 1: any questions.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk some vikings in a second.

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Speaker 1: But as a proud University of Minnesota alum and also

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Speaker 1: one of us, how is the cooy perrich news hitting you?

446
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Speaker 2: Ben Gesling?

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Speaker 4: Oh man, it was funny I was texting with a

448
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Speaker 4: group of my Minnesota Daily fellow Minnesota Daily alums. We

449
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Speaker 4: have a group text that probably gets revved up more

450
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Speaker 4: with Gopher stuff than just about anything else. And I

451
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Speaker 4: think one of them yesterday had predicted, like, hey, watch

452
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Speaker 4: Koy hit the transfer portal. So then when that hit

453
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Speaker 4: last night, he's feeling it and said, man, you called it.

454
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Speaker 4: So yeah, it's uh. I mean you kind of wondered

455
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Speaker 4: if something like that would happen, but yeah, it's just

456
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Speaker 4: when a guy that's one of us and wanted to

457
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Speaker 4: be here and has played as well as he has

458
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Speaker 4: is going. It's the state of college football. It's where

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Speaker 4: things are gone. But yeah, it's one of those that's

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Speaker 4: like it hits hard enough to be a little bit

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Speaker 4: more profound than most of these are.

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Speaker 2: Are you jealous of?

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Speaker 1: Do you envy Randy Johnson today that just has to

464
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Speaker 1: talk about all the players that are going into the

465
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Speaker 1: portal that you don't have to do that with Justin Jefferson,

466
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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, Aaron Jones, Andrew Van Ginkle that if they

467
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Speaker 1: sign a contract, you might have to talk about restructuring

468
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Speaker 1: at some point or trades or things like that, but

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Speaker 1: you don't have. You don't have a day like that

470
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Speaker 1: where you're just monitoring who's staying and who's going every

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Speaker 1: single year like college football reporters have to do.

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Speaker 4: Now. You know, it is wild that that beat has

473
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Speaker 4: become what it is. I mean, like you typically talk

474
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Speaker 4: about the NFL in terms of player movement and how

475
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Speaker 4: much of it there is, and you know, different sports

476
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Speaker 4: are different rhythms of this, but college football has never

477
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Speaker 4: been that. You would sort of look at that and say,

478
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Speaker 4: the off seasons are not this crazy, drinking from a

479
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Speaker 4: fire hose news kind of thing. But that has changed completely.

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Speaker 4: I mean you're doing that every year now, at least

481
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Speaker 4: in the NFL. Sometimes it's like you may cover a

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Speaker 4: guy for three or four years. The heck, I was

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Speaker 4: in the locker room today kind of lingering talking to

484
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Speaker 4: Harrison Smith, the guy that I've covered sank his rookie year.

485
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Speaker 4: That was my first year on the beat. So you

486
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Speaker 4: don't have that. Number one. Those kinds of relationships are

487
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Speaker 4: number two. It's just that offseason rhythm has changed so

488
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Speaker 4: much that everything is moving all the time. It just

489
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Speaker 4: it's just wild to me how much different it is,

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Speaker 4: and it changes certainly things for players, for fans, for coaches.

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Speaker 4: But you know those of us who are just chronicling

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Speaker 4: these things as well, you feel that difference, no doubt

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Speaker 4: about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no rhythm. I think the word you use rhythm.

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Speaker 1: There's no rhythm now in college sports. The rhythm is gone.

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Speaker 1: We're in a rhythmic shock. I don't know, you would

497
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Speaker 1: know you're smarter than me. Yeah, today's wild and yeah,

498
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Speaker 1: and it's a buzzkill, right, it's a buzzkill that he's

499
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Speaker 1: one of a few that can, as I said in

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Speaker 1: the first segment or the second segment of the show,

501
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Speaker 1: you he can pick his price and he can pick his.

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Speaker 2: Place, right.

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Speaker 1: That's why it was such a big deal to get

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Speaker 1: him in the first place. And so we'll see where

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Speaker 1: he ends up. I mean I would I would keep

506
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Speaker 1: my eye in Miami really because that's where his old

507
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Speaker 1: coordinator is. They're in the playoff. It's warm there. It

508
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Speaker 1: seems like it fits him, you know, something like that.

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Speaker 1: Ohio State obviously was the runner up the first time around.

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Speaker 1: But there's not a ton of those guys that can

511
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Speaker 1: just literally because I don't think it's all money.

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Speaker 2: He's not volunteering here.

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Speaker 1: He'll probably get paid more wherever he goes, but I

514
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Speaker 1: do think, you know, for a select few, if you

515
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Speaker 1: want to go chase the championship, he's one of those

516
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Speaker 1: guys that can do that, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No doubt. And he's one of those guys that can

518
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Speaker 4: make a difference in a championship type game, which is

519
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Speaker 4: probably going to be rare for where the Gophers are

520
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Speaker 4: as well. But yeah, it just reminds you how much

521
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Speaker 4: this is about an open market all the time now.

522
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Speaker 4: I mean, it just has changed the way you have

523
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Speaker 4: to compete in college sports so much. I mean it's

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm sitting in the locker room yesterday before

525
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Speaker 4: the quarterfinals and Miles Price of Indiana is able to

526
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Speaker 4: sit there and give grief to a lot of the

527
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Speaker 4: SEC guys. It's like, right, the world we live in now.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Indiana was always the team that I think

529
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Speaker 4: always had the longest Rose Bowl drought.

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Speaker 2: There are longest Big.

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Speaker 4: Ten title drought tied with the Gophers, yep, and they

532
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Speaker 4: went in sixty seven to the Rose Bowl. Because the

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Speaker 4: Gophers have been on more recently and now they're the

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Speaker 4: team that he's able to go in and talk a

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Speaker 4: lot of noise and then Indiana backs it up. I'm

536
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Speaker 4: blowing them out. So yes, when you have the money

537
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Speaker 4: and you have that engine going, it has changed everything

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Speaker 4: about college sports, and a lot of that stuff is

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Speaker 4: just kind of disorienting to see.

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Speaker 1: That nugget that you just unveiled has spoken like a

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Speaker 1: true University of Minnesota Daily alum that had to write that.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure in a copy or two, Indiana and Minnesota

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Speaker 1: tiede from THEE that was off the top.

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Speaker 4: Yep, that's when we wrote quite a bit. I think

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Speaker 4: probably one of those years. I think the year I

546
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Speaker 4: was covered in them, they started five and zero, lost

547
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Speaker 4: in the Big House, and I think I was a

548
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Speaker 4: junior for the famous Thursday night game at the Metro Dominggainst, Michigan.

549
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Speaker 4: So yeah, I had a couple of those those years

550
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Speaker 4: where it's like, hey, they may have a chance, and

551
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Speaker 4: then you're pulling all those stats out and then you realize, Nope,

552
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Speaker 4: that's the counter is going to continue to go up.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk a little bit of vikings. Those

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Speaker 1: of us said, why you've had Ben on five minutes?

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Speaker 1: You haven't brought up the vikings because I can't get

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Speaker 1: fired up for this one. Ben as speaking of one

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Speaker 1: of us. I've lived through enough border battles. You've been

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Speaker 1: You've been obviously a Minnesotan for your whole life. You've

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Speaker 1: been although you were in San Diego for a minute.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, you've covered the team for a long time.

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Speaker 1: This feels like bottom five border battle all time right

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Speaker 1: here on the fan this weekend. Is that fair in

563
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Speaker 1: terms of buzz and excitement?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's right, and you can hear all

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Speaker 4: about it on the Vikings pregame show, which will be

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Speaker 4: on with mus Sunday morning. Thanks for killing the lead

567
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Speaker 4: in for that, But yeah, I think that's right. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I think back through the fourteen years I've covered them,

569
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Speaker 4: and it's the only one that comes to mind for me. There. Well,

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Speaker 4: I guess two that have less or similar lack of buzz.

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Speaker 4: Twenty thirteen, they had a tie at lambeau Field that

572
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Speaker 4: was just an awful game.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: It ended up being I think Scott tolteen started that,

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Speaker 4: Matt Flynn came in against Christian Ponder and it went

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Speaker 4: to overtime and the Packers force tigh. So that one,

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Speaker 4: and then I think at twenty seventeen the Vikings went

578
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Speaker 4: in there and shut the Packers out of Brett Hunley

579
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Speaker 4: and and the Vikings defense was dominant there on the

580
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Speaker 4: way the NFCY title game, but it just was not

581
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Speaker 4: much of a fight at all because the Packers had

582
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Speaker 4: nothing left. The fact that this one is in the

583
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Speaker 4: Vikings playing for, you know, kind of a consolation prize,

584
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Speaker 4: the vanity record of hey, we won more than we lost,

585
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Speaker 4: and the Packers don't have anything to play for, in

586
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Speaker 4: part because they've lost their chance to win the division

587
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Speaker 4: when they looked at the beginning of the season like

588
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Speaker 4: a team that may be a contender. Yeah, it is

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Speaker 4: not high on that list. But the wild thing I

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Speaker 4: was looking this up yesterday and tweeted it in the

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Speaker 4: middle of day and got every range of different responses

592
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Speaker 4: on it. But if they had covered that kickoff against

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Speaker 4: the Bears back in November, or at least stop that

594
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Speaker 4: drive no matter what it happened, and they win that game,

595
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Speaker 4: they are This game on Sunday would have been for

596
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Speaker 4: a playoff spot, which means it's probably a three twenty five.

597
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Speaker 4: The Packers are playing their starters, and if the Vikings

598
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Speaker 4: were in that spot, they beat the Packers and the

599
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Speaker 4: Bears lose to the Lions, the Vikings would have been

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Speaker 4: ten and seven, the Bears would have been ten and seven.

601
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Speaker 4: Vikings would have won the NFC North based on the sweep,

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Speaker 4: So like, they are not far away from this being

603
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Speaker 4: a game that mattered. And then the question is do

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Speaker 4: you look at that and say, hey, it's not that

605
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Speaker 4: far off we can run back to an extent, or

606
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Speaker 4: do you look at it and say, yeah, even with that,

607
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Speaker 4: there are a lot of flaws here that need to

608
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Speaker 4: get addressed. So how they view all of this after

609
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Speaker 4: the game will have a lot to say about how

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Speaker 4: the offseason goes. But yeah, this one is not going

611
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Speaker 4: to be among the greatest of the border battles I've

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Speaker 4: seen in my life.

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Speaker 1: So remind us what JJ McCarthy is dealing with, and

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Speaker 1: he will be the starter this weekend. My dream of

615
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Speaker 1: one more Brozemer Brownstone rendezvous, Coy Parris will not be there. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: he'll be doing something else. My dream of another Brozemer

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Speaker 1: Brownstone watch party is dead. So the kid JJ gets

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Speaker 1: another crack at it.

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Speaker 2: He does. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell said today that he got about as close

621
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Speaker 4: to a full week of practice as you could get

622
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Speaker 4: they felt okay about his ability to grip the ball.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that was the big question all week is

624
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Speaker 4: how effectively could he grip it after that airline fracture

625
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Speaker 4: in his hand and the time that I saw him throwing,

626
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Speaker 4: and he looked good. I mean he didn't have anything

627
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Speaker 4: on his hand, didn't have any padding or extra protection.

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Speaker 4: So him thrown a little bit at the beginning of

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Speaker 4: practice today and you know, just a little bit kind

630
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Speaker 4: of an individual drills the other days of the week,

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Speaker 4: and he was thrown it well. I mean the ball

632
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Speaker 4: looked like it was coming off his hand fine. He

633
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Speaker 4: spun it as effectively as you'd want him to do it,

634
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Speaker 4: hitting guys and stride all those kinds of things. So

635
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Speaker 4: I I think throwing wise, he'll be fine. The question

636
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Speaker 4: is if he gets hit that then get aggravated, is

637
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Speaker 4: there you know, something that would raise the level of

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Speaker 4: pain or the level of limitation in his grip to

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Speaker 4: the point where they have to take him out. I mean,

640
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Speaker 4: that's that'd be the question as you go into Sunday.

641
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Speaker 4: But everything we saw this week I think is as

642
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Speaker 4: good of an indicator of his health as they could

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Speaker 4: hope for at this point. So now it becomes can

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Speaker 4: they get one more game that starts to make them think, yeah,

645
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Speaker 4: there's some signs of progress here. And I do think

646
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Speaker 4: that is the stuff that matters here. How good do

647
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Speaker 4: they feel about him going into this offseason is going

648
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Speaker 4: to have a lot of ramifications in the next few months,

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Speaker 4: And it's not like playing the Packers' backups is going

650
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Speaker 4: to be something that makes everybody feel like things are

651
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 4: fine and good to go and let's just you run

652
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Speaker 4: it back. We don't need to address it any get

653
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Speaker 4: the quarterback position. I'm not saying that, but I think

654
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Speaker 4: if they can continue to see momentum from him even

655
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 4: a little bit, it probably affects to some degree how

656
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 4: aggressive they feel like they need to get at the

657
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 4: quarterback position in terms of bringing somebody else in to

658
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 4: compete with him. So I think that stuff is worth watching.

659
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 4: If they feel like he's starting to figure out the offense,

660
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 4: the decision making is better, they can work on the

661
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 4: mechanics in the offseason, you know, if the levels of

662
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 4: improvement they've seen over the last few weeks continue, I

663
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 4: think that is a takeaway from this game that's worth

664
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Speaker 4: monitoring if you're a fan watching it, and I certainly

665
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Speaker 4: think they're going to be paying pretty close attention to that.

666
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Speaker 1: Ben Gessling making his weekly appearance on Bumper to Bumper,

667
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Speaker 1: which right now is common. But it's Friday, it's January,

668
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: tewod we're out a little bit early because of World

669
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: Junior Hockey, so everything's a little bit influx today. But

670
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: he's brought to you by Standard Heating and Air on

671
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672
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Speaker 2: Picks with Gerby about forty five minutes from now.

673
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Speaker 1: Todd Tuesday, with Sauce and Ryan Donaldson coming up in

674
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Speaker 1: about ten minutes.

675
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Speaker 2: Have you spent much time, Ben.

676
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Speaker 1: Wondering if JJ McCarthy is injury prone or or if

677
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: he's just unlucky?

678
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 4: I certainly have. I mean, I think the number of

679
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 4: different injuries this year, you know, does make you wonder

680
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 4: that he hasn't had a lot of that in his

681
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 4: career previously. But he was playing behind great offensive lines

682
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 4: at Michigan, and he's probably not getting hit anywhere in

683
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 4: as much in high school either. He plays in a

684
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 4: way that he's certainly not afraid of contact. The hockey

685
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 4: guy stuff comes out there. He was a hockey player

686
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 4: growing up, and he certainly is not shy about taking

687
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Speaker 4: on contact or even dealing it out at times. So

688
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 4: you know, there's been a lot of the discussion this

689
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 4: year of does he need to do a little bit

690
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 4: more to protect himself, whether that's I mean, he talks

691
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,959
Speaker 4: about diving head first and the strategic reasons for that.

692
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 4: He actually said that's something Jim Harbaugh taught him, that

693
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 4: you're less likely to take a shot to the head

694
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 4: if you go down head first, and there actually can

695
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 4: be some strategic ways to protect yourself a little more

696
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 4: than it may seem as opposed to sliding. But he

697
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 4: plays out of the lot, and he's gotten hit out

698
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 4: of the pocket. A lot of the injuries have come

699
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 4: on plays outside the pockets. So there are some of

700
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 4: those things that you say, if he's gonna play that way,

701
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 4: is his body going to hold up over the long term,

702
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 4: and how much can he play that way? Does he

703
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 4: need to pick his spots and go out of bounds

704
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 4: a little more often rather than hitting the ground or

705
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 4: maybe even making contact and trying to get a couple

706
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 4: more yards. I think those have been long term discussions

707
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 4: with him, but yes, just in general, when he's had

708
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 4: this many of them and it's been different things. It's

709
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 4: been the hand, it's been the ankle, it's been a knee,

710
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 4: it's been a concussion. You know, there's just been enough

711
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 4: various body parts that you're not saying this is a

712
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 4: one time injury that may not happen again. And it

713
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 4: hasn't been soft tissue stuff. It's been a lot of

714
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 4: bone I guess the meniscus is a Cardilalo's injury there,

715
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 4: but it's been a lot of bone type stuff. It's

716
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 4: been impact based injuries. And the way that he plays,

717
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 4: I do wonder how much of that will get changed

718
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 4: or tailed to a degree because we have seen that

719
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 4: toll that up. And the biggest thing you have to

720
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 4: have from the quarterback is a guy that shows up

721
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 4: and is on the field every week. I mean back

722
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 4: in the Cousins Condos days, people would get on him

723
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 4: for a lot of things, but you could usually count

724
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 4: on him answering the bell and being on the field

725
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 4: on Sunday. And that's one of those things that I

726
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 4: think until you lose that, you probably don't appreciate that

727
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 4: to the degree that maybe you should.

728
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Speaker 1: More likely to be a Viking next year. Harrison Smith

729
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: or Brian Flores.

730
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Speaker 4: Boy, that is a good one. I would say Brian

731
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Speaker 4: Flores at the moment. Now, I do think if Brian

732
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Speaker 4: Flores is back, it makes the Harrison Smith possibility a

733
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 4: little more likely. But I think I mean Harrison I

734
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 4: believe is you know, you're fourteen, He's got kids that

735
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 4: are fairly young, He's played a lot of football. Just

736
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 4: talking to people and chatting with him a little bit,

737
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 4: it seems like he's at a point where if he

738
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 4: walked away, he'd be set notified with his career. He'd

739
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 4: be satisfied with the run that he's had with one team. Obviously,

740
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 4: it's something you're not going to see very often. I

741
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 4: was thinking about this this week, that I may recover

742
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Speaker 4: another athlete as long as I've covered him, I mean,

743
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 4: fourteen years covering one guy. He would take somebody else

744
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 4: staying around here that long, and that's not a very

745
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 4: common thing to have happened. So it seems to me

746
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 4: like he's probably comfortable with where he's at and he's

747
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 4: probably going to say I'm done, But you know, you

748
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 4: never know if that changes when you get into the offseason.

749
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 4: He's skill a little bit of that itch. I don't

750
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 4: think we'll get that word from him right away. I

751
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 4: don't think we'll have it on Sunday or anything like that.

752
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 4: But I do think that's probably where we're headed, and

753
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 4: I think before as it will depend on if they

754
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 4: get a deal done and how much does he want

755
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 4: to explore the market. I know they they want it back.

756
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 4: I know they're in a position to pay him as

757
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 4: the best or you know, among the very best paid

758
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 4: defensive coordinators in the league. I don't think that'll be

759
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 4: the question. It probably will be what else the market

760
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 4: looks like for him, And that may be everything from

761
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 4: opportunities he has for growth to does he feel like

762
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 4: there's a team that's closer to contending if you have

763
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Speaker 4: a defense that's playing this well, because that defense has

764
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 4: kept them in a lot of games this year and

765
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 4: they've probably won the last couple. Yep. And if you

766
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 4: are in a position that you have an offense that

767
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 4: you're with that can make that take off and go somewhere.

768
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 4: I could see that being something he looks at. But

769
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Speaker 4: I would say at this point it's more likely that

770
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Speaker 4: Floras is back than Harrison Smith. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, I wanted to spend a minute or two on

772
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Speaker 1: Flores because it's been an interesting talker all week, and

773
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Speaker 1: I know you guys asked him about it. When he

774
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Speaker 1: says the football stuff has been a fit. Now we'll

775
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: see I'm sure you know the quote I played it.

776
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: Now you know we'll take care of the business side

777
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,439
Speaker 1: of it, or business is business? What does he mean

778
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: by that? Translate that for us? Is that I got

779
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: to see if I'm going to be a head coach.

780
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: Is that I need to make more money? Is that

781
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: I want even more say over who I'm bringing in

782
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: to actually play for me on this because kind of

783
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: like I said with Coy Parritch, I can't imagine KAOC

784
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: doing much more for him than PJ did for Koy,

785
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: letting him kind of do his own thing. Right, you

786
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: handle this, you tell us who you want. So what

787
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: would what would the hold up be if the football

788
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: is a fit and now we figure out the business

789
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: part of it?

790
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 4: Well, I think when he said the football is a fit,

791
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 4: it's the relationship with O'Connell, it's the relationships he has

792
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 4: with players and all of that structure stuff being what

793
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 4: he wants. I think the business part of it, certainly

794
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 4: money is going to be involved. I mean that's that's

795
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 4: always going to be part of it. I think when

796
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 4: you are in any sense of this and people are saying,

797
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 4: I might look at the market, you're looking at that

798
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 4: from a financial perspective. I don't think that will be

799
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 4: an issue. I think it's something that the Vikings will

800
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 4: be competitive with him to get done. I think the

801
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 4: the idea of how the structure works. I mean, he's

802
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 4: had a lot of say in the defense, basically saying

803
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 4: I want to get this player, and that kind of

804
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 4: happens as he has wanted it to. I think for

805
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 4: the most part, he's had the chance to say I

806
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 4: want this guy in here, and it goes.

807
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: And gets done.

808
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 4: But is there an arrangement. Is there a structure that

809
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 4: maybe leads to him having even more say in those

810
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 4: things that he's got a scouting background. I don't know

811
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Speaker 4: quite what that looks like, because there's obviously a lot

812
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 4: of other pieces in that discussion, but that could be

813
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 4: something they're thinking about. I wouldn't be shocked if that's

814
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 4: part of the conversation. I think, you know, certainly money

815
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 4: is going to be one of the big factors here too,

816
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 4: but it's one that I think there's a lot of

817
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 4: reasons to think that if he's going to be a

818
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 4: defensive coordinator, this is as good of a spot as

819
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 4: he could have to do it because of the latitude

820
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 4: he gets in not just the schematics standpoint, it's the

821
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 4: I can go get the types of players I want,

822
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 4: and I have a front office that takes my word

823
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 4: pretty seriously. So I think it's a pretty good situation

824
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 4: for him that way. But you have a lot of

825
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 4: that stuff that I think has to get figured out.

826
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 4: And then yeah, just that question of do you feel

827
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 4: like this next stage of your career, your best chance

828
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 4: to be competitive and get to a Super Bowl again

829
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 4: is going to be here. I mean, you're talking about

830
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 4: a guy that won a number of these things in

831
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 4: New England and obviously had a defense that played a

832
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 4: large part in that, but also had the greatest quarterback

833
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 4: in NFL history on the other side of the ball.

834
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 4: So I think that process of I'm used to playing

835
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 4: into late January, if not February, just about every year.

836
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 4: I'm sure that's part of the thinking as well. And

837
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Speaker 4: we'll see what kind of a head coaching candidate he's

838
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 4: going to be. I think they'll be some interest in

839
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 4: him I think there'll be people that want to talk

840
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 4: with him, especially because how the scheme has gone. The

841
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 4: lawsuit is an ongoing question. There are people going to

842
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 4: want to bring him in when that is still going on.

843
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 4: I think there are going to be questions about how

844
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 4: would he manage a quarterback, how does he manage a

845
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 4: whole team? All of that stuff would be part of

846
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 4: the interview process. But with regard to the defensive coordinator stuff,

847
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 4: I think it's money. And then just is there a

848
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 4: structure that maybe looks a little bit different that is appeeling. Man,

849
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 4: I'm kind of thinking out loud about this. Yeah, I

850
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 4: have enough background. I think that may be part of

851
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 4: the conversation.

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Speaker 1: Well, we look forward to following at the Star Tribune

853
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: startsbune dot com, and certainly we will not miss your

854
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: final pregame show appearance with Muss when the Vikings take

855
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: on the Packers. That should be electric Ben, Thank you brother.

856
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah, we we'll burn it down for you

857
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 4: in that one. We'll make it as entertaining as we can.

858
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 4: They certainly will be left no stone left unturned before

859
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 4: Clayton Tune versus JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: Happy new your buttons too, soon.

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Speaker 4: Happy New Year man, we'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 1: we come back, we hop on Asher Avenue. We turn

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Speaker 1: left on Beckham Boulevard, Swingle, another left on the Curtis

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Speaker 1: Causeway and end up on Devin Drive.

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Speaker 2: It's a todd Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: It's a Todd Tuesday with the original Todds, Ryan Donaldson

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Speaker 1: and MEETSOS Paul Lambert right after