1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: You are listening to Let's Garden with Scott Berlin. I'm 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: here with Mark Wessell from Gardens Alive, my good friend 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: and uh on the line. We have a good friend 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: as well, good friend slash nemesis. How do you describe Mary? 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: What would how would you describe Mariann Wilburn. 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: Mark, Well, she's very refined and refined. Contrast to you, Scott, 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: she's refined and genteel and soft spoken and non abrasive. 8 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: We were once at a conference and introduced in. The 9 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: person was talking about us both together and said beauty 10 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: and the beast, and I did not. There was a 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: look confused which one was which, until everyone told me 12 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: it was me. 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 3: That was the beast. 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: Really, yeah, yeah, marian How are you this morning? You're 15 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: out in California. It's five am your time. Thanks for 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: being here. 17 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 3: How you doing? 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm doing great, Mark. I'll give you that ten 19 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 4: bucks later. 20 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: Ten dollars is all it took. 21 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 4: Thank you. Yeah, I'm cheap and it's early boy. Yeah, 22 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 4: it's five am out here and I'm still looking at 23 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 4: the stars out on my parents' deck and a beautiful morning. 24 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 5: Good morning, gentlemen, Good morning to you and you're what 25 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 5: the Sierra Nevada foothills maybe out in the country were 26 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 5: still very very dark. 27 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is very very dark. The sky is beautiful 28 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 4: out here. I mean there's still a little bit more 29 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 4: light pollution than there was when I was growing up. 30 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: Huh. 31 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 4: But it is extraordinarily beautiful. And we've had some incredible 32 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 4: weather this week and last week, just just that perfect 33 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 4: California weather that you and I experienced when we were 34 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 4: going down the state for California Spring Trials. 35 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember that. That was so much fun. And yeah, 36 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: yeah California weather. 37 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: I mean, the minute you get off the plane, you're 38 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: just like, ah, I've in California. 39 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: It's so different here. 40 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: It's so nice, unless you're get off the plane in Bakersfield. 41 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 3: Yeah there. 42 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: I guess it matters a little bit where where you land. Marianne, 43 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: you are the author of two books, Uh, Small Gardens, 44 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: Big Dreams. 45 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 3: Did I get that? Writer? Is it the other way? 46 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: The other way? Big Dreams, Small. 47 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 4: Gardens, Dreams, Small Garden. 48 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and the seductive almost r rated Tropical Plants 49 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: and How to Love Them. 50 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 4: Yes, yeh's correct. 51 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: We'll have to talk about how that's laid out it's 52 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: a it's a fun book, a great one, a good 53 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: tropical book that you know really hasn't been done in 54 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: a long time. 55 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 3: Uh. 56 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: You've written for magazines, several major magazines, major newspapers, and 57 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: you're a partner on the blog site garden Rant with 58 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: me and several others. 59 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, you own a or co owner, I guess, 60 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: of a travel company. 61 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 4: No, I am. I am the full yeah, sole owner, 62 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 4: but I partner with Andrea Gasper to create travel trips 63 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 4: to Europe to see fine gardens called hort cultural and 64 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 4: we are leaving in about a month month and a 65 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 4: half to go to Chelsea and to see some of 66 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 4: the gardens in the UK in the southeast. 67 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: That's a pretty good gig if you can get it, 68 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: I think. But it was a lot of hard work 69 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: for you putting that together. 70 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 3: I know that. 71 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there's a lot of moving parts in that situation, 72 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 4: and it does take you away from your garden. And 73 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 4: I know you know this because you and Mark speak 74 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 4: a lot around the country and there's always that that 75 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 4: that push and pull of leaving your own garden, which 76 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 4: that's why we got into it, right. 77 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, you're gone for a few days and you 78 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: come back and you can't believe the state of things. 79 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 3: Uh. You you do. 80 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: Travel around and speak a lot. Last, but not least, 81 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: this is the last part of your introduction. 82 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: Uh. 83 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: You are now a major podcaster on the scene with 84 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: the viral the Garden Mixer along with Leslie Harris. It's 85 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 1: really fun. You guys make a great team, always funny 86 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 1: and great information. 87 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 4: Well, thank you, Scott. I mean, now that you're a 88 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 4: big shot radio radio host, you know, that's still king 89 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 4: to me. I'm still old school. It's pretty it's pretty 90 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 4: cool that that you're on the radio. That's amazing. Although 91 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 4: I don't envy. We get to we you know, we 92 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 4: record in the evening for the cocktail in hand, and 93 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 4: you're sort of going to be bleary eyed for the 94 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 4: for the remainder of your life here in the morning 95 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 4: on Saturdays. 96 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,239 Speaker 1: On Saturdays. It's a big commitment, big responsibility. 97 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 2: Well, we just didn't go to bed, you know, cocktail 98 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: hour stretched. 99 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: Into about about a half hour before the show. 100 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: Maybe I still got it, got it, we're handling it. 101 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, So you know, I got you on the show here, 102 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: but we I didn't really have a whole lot to 103 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: talk about, so why don't you take over and just 104 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: tell us what to talk about. 105 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 4: How how are the tulips going at Cincinnati at the zoo? 106 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 4: I mean, you guys are pretty close or going on? 107 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 4: Is it happening. 108 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: It's happening. 109 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just just shy of peak actually, which is 110 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: a little early. Peak is usually April mid April, so 111 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: it looks like, you know, in an early year this year. 112 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: Peak maybe in another week ten days, but right now 113 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: it's absolutely spectacular. I mean, one hundred thousand tulips is 114 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: just amazing to see. 115 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 4: It's a bit excessive, don't you, Thanks Scott, It's a 116 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 4: bit excessive. 117 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: It is excessive in the most beautiful possible way. You know, 118 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: there are times for excess, you know that. 119 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 4: I know that more is more, it turns out. 120 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, we just had Teresa Woodard last week with her 121 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: show The Maximalist or the Garden Maximalists, and yep, the 122 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: whole theme of that is more is better. 123 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well you guys do it well there 124 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 4: and that beautiful period before quote peak, when those tulips 125 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 4: are just still clasping their petals together and there's so 126 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 4: much potential, that is such an exciting time that's just 127 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 4: as it's a sexy moment in the garden. 128 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: It absolutely is, and you know, the best time to 129 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: see it. It's easy this time of year because the light, 130 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: the sunlight is the sun is still low on the 131 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: horizon for ust to day. But when those tulips are backlit, 132 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot better. It's almost like they 133 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: have their own energy. 134 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 4: And I I understand you personally planted all one hundred 135 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 4: thousand of those tulips. That was amazing. That's just an 136 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 4: amazing effort. 137 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: A bit of uh, a bit of you know, graduation exaggeration. 138 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 3: You know, I'm losing my words. It's it's it's past 139 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 3: my bedtime, way past my bedtime. Uh yeah, I planted 140 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: most of them. 141 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: But uh yeah, you know how fragile Scott is noways 142 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: in his old age. 143 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to plan them all. Now I rely 144 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: on some help. Actually I don't. I just planted a few. 145 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: Half of our team is so good. They got out 146 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: there and and and they get the ground till the 147 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: tulips in, you know, with help from the volunteers. It 148 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: is a machine. It is absolutely wonderful to watch, and 149 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: I did, I just watched it. 150 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 3: You probably just get in the way I do. 151 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, Scott out of the way, and sometimes they 152 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: don't use the word Scott, dude, it's much much worse. 153 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. 154 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 4: One of the coolest things about for me about I 155 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 4: grew up in California but I have been back in 156 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 4: Virginia and mid Atlantic for the last twenty some years 157 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 4: is coming back home home home to California around March, 158 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 4: and I get to witness two springs and sometimes end 159 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 4: of February, so you get to have that tulip moment 160 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 4: and in because it's usually in containers because they're so 161 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 4: parched and dry in the ground in this area, and 162 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 4: then in and then go back to Virginia and see 163 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 4: it there. But that's actually going to be coming to 164 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 4: an end here because we're packing up my parents' home 165 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 4: and and yeah, it's yes, it's it's tough, but it's 166 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 4: been wonderful to have that those two places to see 167 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 4: spring twice. Yeah, when I when I come back at 168 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 4: this time. 169 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: Maria, we got to take a break. We'll be back 170 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: in just a few minutes to continue this conversation. 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We were just talking about you 215 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: having two springs and and I know you mentioned that 216 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: you'll be driving south on a phone call to me 217 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: earlier this week to Texas and you're kind of going 218 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: to divert just a little bit around to see the 219 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: super bloom. 220 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 4: We are, I'm hoping to catch a little bit of it. 221 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 4: And you know, we could just go straight down the 222 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 4: state like you and I did down the Central Valley, 223 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 4: hitting stops, but we thought this. We we crossed the 224 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 4: pass and we'll find one of them that's open, right 225 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 4: because it's still early, and then come back down the 226 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 4: backside of the mountains and head into the top side 227 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 4: of Death Valley and through the super bloom, which is 228 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 4: usually every sort of ten years is when the conditions 229 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 4: are right. Have you seen that mark? Have you come 230 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 4: down and seen that that beauty? 231 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've often work in the Central Valley and in 232 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: March April, so I've been fortunate enough a few times 233 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 2: like to see the Carreso Plains and Antelope Valley and 234 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: it is just spectacular acres and acres of color. It's 235 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: just amazing. 236 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: Really get the exact route, Yeah, yeah, I do that. 237 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: It's it's something everybody should see. I think it's it's 238 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: absolutely spectacular. 239 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: And these are a lot of them are they're beautiful plants, 240 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: but they're just some of them are kind of bizarre 241 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: looking up clothes. It's a unique environment. 242 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 4: We probably should explain what the whole super bloom even means, 243 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 4: because it just sort of feels like, well, wildflowers, right, yeah. 244 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 3: No, i'st qualified here. 245 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: Well, in the West, a super bloom, well anywhere, you 246 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: just have to have the right conditions to create just 247 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: an incredible bloom. So in California it usually requires some 248 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 2: autumn winter rains to get things started, to get the 249 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 2: seedlings to pop, and then some moisture in the late 250 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 2: winter early spring to get everything to really flush. And 251 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 2: when that comes together, it's just a spectacular sight. 252 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 4: Those beautiful loopens, the orange poppies. I know, Scott and 253 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 4: I didn't actually technically see this the super bloom when 254 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 4: we were heading down the state for casts, but we 255 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 4: saw some, you know, some pretty spectacular displays. 256 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: Well that part of you know, in California they get 257 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 2: that winter, especially the coastal area, they get that winter moisture. 258 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: So even on a you know, average year, it's very nice. 259 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: Do you remember, Marianne, we were driving through a pass. 260 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: It was it felt like we were way out in 261 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: the country, you know, in the mountains between the coasts. 262 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: It was one of the coastal mountain passes, and we 263 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: came across that field with dough to Kathy and and uh, 264 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: I had how were you saying it? It was funny. 265 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: We had this discussion about how to pronounce it. 266 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 4: I've just been I was just discussing this on on Instagram. 267 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 4: Actually do to cathlon do to kathy on right? And 268 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 4: I used to try and say I would always want 269 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 4: to say do decahedron when I would see it. But 270 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 4: the deal, here's the deal. They've just moved do to 271 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 4: kathy on into primula. They took all the fun out 272 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 4: of it. So I think do kathy on is in 273 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 4: is now part of the species name. These are shooting stars. 274 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 4: They are blooming right now at my parents' house. And 275 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 4: I found a couple and pressed them and was thinking, geez, 276 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 4: I just finally got it to roll off of my tongue. 277 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: I was just telling you, you know, act like a 278 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: French person. It's do deon And I tried that multiple 279 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: times and he struggled with it, but eventually you got it. 280 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: Now it's meaningless because like you say, those taxonomists is 281 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: jerk taxonomist And I'm. 282 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's why been invited to parties, all the 283 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 4: taxonomous party shooting stars. 284 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: Kind of easy to say, Yeah. 285 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 3: You could get away with that. It's a great native wildflower. 286 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 2: Oh it's a beauty. 287 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: And I was surprised to see it in California. I 288 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: don't know if it's the same species. It looked just 289 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: like our. 290 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 4: Eastern I could not figure out what I had in 291 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 4: terms of the species. But I think we would bore 292 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 4: all your listeners trying to talk about that, you know, 293 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 4: the like the plant geeks you and you can be. 294 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: I know, Mark is, well, why start boring our listeners now? 295 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: And we've been doing it for almost two and a 296 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: half hours. 297 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 3: Uh, you know what's happening back home in Virginia in. 298 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 4: Your garden, Well, the spring of semarals are happening, and 299 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 4: I am I am a little sad that I'm missing 300 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 4: I'm missing that emergence of the Virginia blue bell, in 301 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 4: my opinion, the best bluebell. 302 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 3: We talked about that earlier this morning. 303 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 4: Oh were you that's such a cool emerging and there's 304 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 4: nothing like it, that purply blue leaves coming up through 305 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 4: all of the you know, all of the just duff 306 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 4: in the in the forest layer that there's Claytonia is 307 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 4: going to be coming out soon. Spring beauty and theirs 308 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 4: throniums are out, even though they won't bloom for me 309 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 4: because they just want to run and run and run. 310 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 4: And there's just so many beautiful, beautiful things, and may 311 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 4: apples are emerging, just starting to emerge. Michael keeps sending 312 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 4: me photos vicariously. Okay, No, somebody's got to hold down 313 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 4: the sort we tag came because the menagerie that we 314 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 4: have requires somebody there at all times. 315 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, So you live the pioneering life out there in 316 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: your hollow, your Virginia. 317 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 4: Hollow, down in hollow. 318 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty thirty minutes from DC or now from DC, 319 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: but my world away. 320 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 4: Someday you'll come and visit me when the garden actually 321 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 4: looks good instead of me having to ply you with 322 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 4: prosecco to keep you slightly tipsy while you walk around 323 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 4: in muddy march. 324 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 3: It's always better. 325 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: I would prefer to see it in muddy March because 326 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: then I can you know ras you about how ugly 327 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: everything is. 328 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 3: That's the kind of relationship here have. 329 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how we do do things well. 330 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 4: The spring ephemerals are out, but also the daffodils obviously 331 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 4: or are out. And my goal is to just keep 332 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 4: adding daffodils so that it literally blows your eyeballs out 333 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 4: when you come down and look at the valley. And 334 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 4: that is my goal. That is my thirty year goal. 335 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,479 Speaker 1: So I'm getting there slowly, so easy to buy a 336 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: few more or one hundred or two hundred more every 337 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: year and put them in and just create that bigger 338 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: display every you know, incrementally, so that you know, in 339 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: a few years you've got something totally spectacular. When we 340 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: come back, marian I don't know what we're going to 341 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: talk about, think about it and you take charge. 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I'm 365 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: here with Mark Wessel in the studio, my good friend 366 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: from Gardens Alive, and also another good friend, Mary Ann Wilburn, 367 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: currently in California, but lives in what's your town in Virginia. 368 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 4: Again, I'm in love Atville, Virginia, Lovetsville. That's right, you're 369 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 4: I should have I should have said I'm in an 370 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 4: undisclosed location. That would have sounded more mysterious. 371 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it would make it harder for your enemies 372 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: to find you. Uh there in there where Maryland, Virginia 373 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: or West Virginia and Virginia all meet more or less, right, Yeah, where. 374 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 4: They all come together, and it's a very special mystical spot. 375 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 3: It really is. 376 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful area. It's been too long since I've 377 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: been there. You need to invite me back, you know. 378 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: I just disgrace you on national radio just to get 379 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: this invite. But you know, since I've been there, the 380 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: last time, you put in a pottedgier garden or big 381 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: vegetable garden. You've put in deer fence, you put in 382 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: other beds. First of all, tell us about the garden 383 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: vegetable garden that you put in, because I've seen pictures 384 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: in it looks amazing. 385 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, I put in raised beds, and I put in 386 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 4: really strong raised beds this time, because I've gone through 387 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 4: different iterations of them, and. 388 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 3: These are you did Michael did. Michael did the work well, you. 389 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 4: Know, to be fair, Michael did this last iteration. But 390 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 4: all of the past iterations of this work have been 391 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 4: completed by me, which. 392 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: Is why this time it was well built. It looks 393 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: so good, but it does look studdy. 394 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 4: Are you hearing those here we go? 395 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it could get ugly, very ugly. But you've got 396 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: a little greenhouse there. It all looks magical. 397 00:22:59,480 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 3: Obviously. 398 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 4: I have a Northwest panel greenhouse, which I love because 399 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 4: it's made of cedar, and every time you walk into it, 400 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 4: it's just that beautiful smell. Even we've had it, oh gosh, 401 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 4: five years now six years, and it's it still has 402 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 4: that wonderful warmth and smell in it. And you know, 403 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 4: I don't use it as a greenhouse should be used. 404 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 4: I'm not using it to its full potential because I 405 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 4: don't heat it. But I use it like a big 406 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 4: cold frame. Basically. It means that I can I don't 407 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 4: have to use the little hoop houses I make over 408 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,239 Speaker 4: my rais as I can stand up straight, and I 409 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 4: can and and extend that season on both sides. And 410 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 4: when you have a greenhouse, you don't have to use 411 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 4: it as a greenhouse, that's true. 412 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: You know, you can simply use it as a mental 413 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: health station, because there's nothing better. You know, when it's 414 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: been cold and gray, you know, and in your you've 415 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: got cabin fever, and you just go out to your greenhouse. 416 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: You open that door, it's already, you get a blast 417 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: of heat. You close the door behind you. It's warm, 418 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: it smells like earth, and you've got plants growing. It's 419 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: pure joy for at least a little while. 420 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 6: You know. 421 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 4: Yankee Candle used to have a candle fragrance called greenhouse 422 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 4: and it was damn good. It was a really good candle. 423 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 4: They got rid of it. I guess there were only 424 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 4: like five people in the United States who wanted one, 425 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 4: me being one. But it smelled tremendous. And you're right, 426 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 4: it is a it is a mental health station. 427 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: Everybody that knew, everybody knew the magic of that smell 428 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: works in greenhouses, so they didn't need the candle. 429 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 4: That's right, That's totally right. You know, my vegetable garden 430 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 4: is an amazing thing in my house. But I would 431 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 4: far rather talk about the deer fence right now. 432 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 3: Because I. 433 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 4: Can't. In fact, we can continue to talk about this 434 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 4: on the podcast. I can't stop talking about it. I 435 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 4: know I'm making a lot of people jealous, but it 436 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 4: has been so many years with deer damage in Anybody 437 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 4: who who has a garden, who has any kind of 438 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 4: deer pressure, knows that feeling of coming out in the 439 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 4: morning and thinking, oh good that I can't wait to 440 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 4: see that X. And then you stand in front of 441 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 4: that X with your cup of coffee and see it 442 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 4: nibbled down to the ground. All of the you know, 443 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 4: on woody shrubs, especially all of those branches that can't 444 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 4: grow again, easily cut down a tree, you know, knocked 445 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 4: in half because of rutting, and it is so destroying. 446 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,719 Speaker 4: And I watched my parents deal with it here, you know, 447 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 4: years ago, when I was when I was sort of twenty, 448 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 4: and my mother would almost be in tears about the 449 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 4: sort of twenty. It was twenty ish, but I had 450 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 4: no understanding of what it meant to dig a hole 451 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 4: for two hours in the decomposed granite of the California 452 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 4: Foothills and put a golfer cage in and then stick 453 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 4: a special woody or a woody plant or a tree 454 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 4: in there, and then to come back and find that 455 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 4: they had destroyed it, and she could almost be in 456 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 4: tears over it, and I would think, well, you know, 457 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 4: just don't plant that plant, you know. Yeah, I'm surprised 458 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 4: you didn't slap me, you know. 459 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: And then you grew up and you planted those plants 460 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: over and over and over to see those yeah, eaten 461 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: rubbed all that. 462 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 463 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 2: And one point that you bring up a good point 464 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 2: for me. Exclusion of whatever your pest is is kind 465 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: of the first line and best defense. That way, you're 466 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 2: not well for deer, You're you know, you're always spraying 467 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 2: deer repellents on there. My community garden, we have Deer's 468 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: not the problem. One of the problems is rabbits. And 469 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: I put up, you know, a foot and a half 470 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 2: chicken wire around the bottom, and it just totally took 471 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 2: care of that. But you have to be vigilant and 472 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 2: you know, check for they're always looking for a new 473 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 2: way in and they find them and then they just 474 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 2: keep using them. 475 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 3: You have nothing but time to think it through. Do 476 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 3: you have rabbit they. 477 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 4: There, I have a possible rabbit problem. We're sort of 478 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 4: I have two terriers who take We had groundhogs. That 479 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 4: was our big issue. And when we moved into our place, 480 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 4: there was a warren of tunnels sort of like watership 481 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 4: down under our barn for groundhogs. And my terrier, Mango, 482 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 4: was one year old and he was ready to go 483 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 4: and that that was sorted. We haven't had groundhogs since then, 484 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 4: and he kept the rabbits never even thought about moving 485 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 4: into my valley. I'd see him. I'd see him occasionally 486 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 4: at the top of the road and it felt like 487 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 4: I was looking at Caddyshack, you know, like I'd see 488 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 4: a rabbit there looking at me, and I think, don't 489 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 4: go down in that valley. There's a terrier waiting for you. 490 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 4: But then he got like we all do, old and 491 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 4: blind and deaf, and they started moving in and so 492 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 4: we had a few and I we've got a new 493 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 4: puppy and he's learning. So we'll see. You know, you 494 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 4: fix one problem in the garden and then you move 495 00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 4: on to the next one rightly, but literally welcome. Not 496 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 4: that we're I'm advocating cruelty in any way. 497 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, or whacking anything. 498 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, rabbits, rabbits could you know, could be 499 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 4: a problem. And I may be starting to invest invest 500 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 4: in in a lot of chicken wire, but right now 501 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 4: we're doing okay. The deer was we're such a big problem. 502 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 4: And when you're in the country with the deer, it's 503 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 4: it's a it's a weird problem. A lot of city goers, 504 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 4: especially in our suburbs, these big bedroom communities in the 505 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 4: DC area, they have a far worse deer problem than 506 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 4: I do because there's no way to hunt them. The 507 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 4: populations are out of control. There's a some of those 508 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 4: areas have one hundred deer per square mile, and so 509 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 4: you are assured of everything is deer damage every day. 510 00:29:55,320 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 4: And for me, it was that possibly it will be eaten, 511 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 4: Probably it will be eaten, but you never sure when, right, 512 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 4: and so it would literally be a false sense of 513 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 4: confidence and then and then it would be taken out. 514 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 4: And yeah, and why have a garden devoted to fragrance 515 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 4: when you got to spray deer spray all over it? 516 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, no doubt. It's not a pleasant task that 517 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 3: anybody really wants to do. 518 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 2: There's some deer event in our yard a few years ago, 519 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: and I just had enough, and you know, I can't. 520 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: I don't have a weapon and I'm in the city, 521 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 2: so I bought a slingshot and it were it helped me. 522 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: I felt good shooting them in the hind quarters and 523 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 2: watch them run off, But they never never changed their behavior. 524 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,479 Speaker 3: It's very frustrating, Mariya. What do you have going on 525 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 3: with your podcast coming up? 526 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, we're talking about a lot of things. Just 527 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 4: just dropped an episode on the Spring of Samarals and 528 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 4: we are talking with Aaron Shannon. Actually, I think next 529 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 4: week on just the Spring Panic. Aaron Shannon, the impatient 530 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 4: gardener from Wisconsin, and she is a load of fun 531 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 4: and knows how to mix a cocktail. Showed me how 532 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 4: to make a dakerie. I always assumed dakries were red, 533 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 4: but it turns out those are strawberry jakeries. That's going 534 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 4: back to being twenty again, and we're talking about all 535 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 4: of the ways that you're just sort of overwhelmed and 536 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 4: how to prioritize the overwhelmed because there's just so much 537 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 4: that has to be done at this time of year, 538 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 4: so many things needing your attention. It's like having you know, 539 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 4: five two year olds in your house and trying to 540 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 4: trying to cope with okay, who needs the most attention? 541 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 4: Where do I go first? 542 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 3: What do I do? 543 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 4: And then to realize that you can't do everything. Some 544 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 4: things are going to going to have to wait. And 545 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 4: when that happens, the sense of freedom of you know what, 546 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 4: it's okay, I'll do it. I'll do it next year. 547 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,479 Speaker 4: I'll get to that job next year, or I'll get 548 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 4: to it in a couple of months. 549 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: Well, with that thought, we'll have you back again. It's okay, 550 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: we couldn't couldn't get everything in today. We'll have you 551 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: back again to take care of more conversation coming up soon, 552 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: Marian's been a delight to have you on. 553 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 4: Thank you, Scott. 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