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Speaker 2: We got football? Am I right? Danny?
Speaker 1: Am I up to date on that? Not being a
Speaker 1: sports Gerbil, You're correct? Thank you very much. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: we're going to do something this morning. I've never had
Speaker 1: an opportunity to do in thirty two years. And I
Speaker 1: don't know why it took me so long to get
Speaker 1: to it, but you know it, sometimes it's just the
Speaker 1: way it is. And I have John Akers with me.
Speaker 1: He is with the Kentucky Department of Fishing Wildlife and
Speaker 1: he is a program coordinator for their twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: fall auction, which is today, by the way.
Speaker 2: And am I right on that? Did I have a
Speaker 2: date wrong?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Today's October fourth? So so is it today or is
Speaker 1: it Monday the sixth?
Speaker 3: Monday? Monday? Okay?
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, my apologies, I'm misreading something anyway, John,
Speaker 1: this is I'm I.
Speaker 2: How do I want to say this?
Speaker 1: I've never seen so much equipment that's been confiscated by
Speaker 1: an agency and it's maybe something boy I'd like to
Speaker 1: look into this for like Montana or Colorado. God knows
Speaker 1: what might come up, So tell us what is going
Speaker 1: to be happening, and then you know, get into some
Speaker 1: of the parameters.
Speaker 2: We've got plenty of time this morning, so have.
Speaker 3: About it well. We will open the gates chip at
Speaker 3: about seven o'clock. We'll have a registration area where we'll
Speaker 3: have a lot of people in excess of five or
Speaker 3: six hundred at a time trying to get in and
Speaker 3: get registered for the auction. Auction won't start typically till
Speaker 3: nine thirty. We'll prolong it for a half iron if
Speaker 3: we have a big line of people still getting registered,
Speaker 3: but typically it starts up at nine thirty eight. At
Speaker 3: ten o'clock in the morning, we will start out with
Speaker 3: confiscated items such as cameras, crossbows, guns, traps, anything that's
Speaker 3: used in the process of the violation of the Fish
Speaker 3: and Wildlife regulation. Then those can be confiscated by the
Speaker 3: court and their issue does for resale. And we we
Speaker 3: actually work off of a rig that was placed in
Speaker 3: our statues many years ago. It's forty five a point
Speaker 3: four two thives. But everyone's to look it up and
Speaker 3: it's the surplus and excess property ability to auction those
Speaker 3: items OFLF and so.
Speaker 1: And of course none of this can be viewed beforehand
Speaker 1: before the auction.
Speaker 3: Day, correct. And the point point to that is chip
Speaker 3: we could have people come in and look things over
Speaker 3: for two or three days and then sometimes and it's
Speaker 3: happened before. I'm missing parts off things. You know, things
Speaker 3: are misplaced, the tags are torn off. So to make
Speaker 3: it fair to everybody that shows up and registers at
Speaker 3: the auction, we let them view the morning of the sale.
Speaker 1: Okay, Now where will this take place? And we'll repeat
Speaker 1: that again at the end of the or the end
Speaker 1: of the morning.
Speaker 3: So it's at our office headquarters on number one Sportsman's
Speaker 3: Lane here in Frankfurt, Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Fantastic. So this is this an outdoor event indoor.
Speaker 3: It is, Okay, rainer shine, It's an outdoor event, So.
Speaker 1: Be prepared depending on what the weather is going to be. Yes, sir, okay,
Speaker 1: just I guess some of the what are some of
Speaker 1: the parameters? What as I noticed, some things are available
Speaker 1: only to Kentucky residents. Other things are available to anyone
Speaker 1: from outside Kentucky.
Speaker 3: Yes, things that are surplus equipment that we purchase as
Speaker 3: an agency can be bought by anyone. Things that are
Speaker 3: confiscated and addition to firearms that we either own or
Speaker 3: have confiscated can only be bought by Kentucky residents. Okay,
Speaker 3: and that's part of those statutes.
Speaker 1: Okay, fantastic, So everybody, you be prepared for that. I
Speaker 1: mean if I was a sportsman or something and somebody looking.
Speaker 1: But you can look at this the equipment online, correct.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a listing. A listing is online. Now there's not
Speaker 3: pictures involved, but do your homework. We've got them divined,
Speaker 3: you know where they're They're understandable in the language, and
Speaker 3: you can look at you know, there's a gun on there,
Speaker 3: we tell you what kind it is, what size, caliber,
Speaker 3: and hall. If there's a tractor, we list the type
Speaker 3: of tractor it is or ATV's the same way. We've
Speaker 3: got some Yamall big Bear four hundreds I think in
Speaker 3: it this year, and a Caboda UTV. So there's there's
Speaker 3: a variety of of of off road equipment. There's a
Speaker 3: variety of farm equipment that we use on our wm as.
Speaker 1: This is how long does something like this take to
Speaker 1: accomplish from start to finish.
Speaker 3: Well, I start collecting things twice a year. We have
Speaker 3: an auction the first Monday in May and the first
Speaker 3: Monday in October, and I'll start taking items in from
Speaker 3: staff across the state. Law enforcement will typically bring in
Speaker 3: confiscated goods towards the end of that season prior to
Speaker 3: the auction, but we store house at catalog getting start
Speaker 3: getting it compiled a couple months before each one.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, you sit tight, John Acres.
Speaker 1: I'm quite fascinated by this, and I just recently got
Speaker 1: into auction, going to auctions, and I'm retired, okay, so
Speaker 1: I'll get a little time on my hands, and I
Speaker 1: find it quite fun. And sometimes food's great with a
Speaker 1: food truck. So John, you sit tight. We'll be back
Speaker 1: with more in the Big Outdoors News Radio seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Back in the moment, seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: My guest is John Acres.
Speaker 1: He's the program coordinator for the Kentucky Department of Fish
Speaker 1: and Wildlife. I guess what you'd call a bi annual auction,
Speaker 1: which is coming up at the Office Complex Outdoors on
Speaker 1: Monday morning, October sixth, and John welcome back. So, you know,
Speaker 1: on a typical auction day, how long does the auction
Speaker 1: actually run? And I'd love to hear that COVID story too.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, okay, okay, Well, typically chip an auction to
Speaker 3: run from nine to two or three o'clock, you know,
Speaker 3: four or five hour auction is a standard auction. It
Speaker 3: depends on how fast it goes and how fast people
Speaker 3: are raising their hand and pushing through things. We don't
Speaker 3: We don't antagonize the auctioneer to elevate prices and drag
Speaker 3: it on. We want to sell it and move it
Speaker 3: and be done with it. And so we run through
Speaker 3: them pretty good sometimes.
Speaker 2: But that's quite good. Yeah yeah, Now.
Speaker 3: Let me I'll give you the COVID side of that.
Speaker 3: When we were we were in COVID and we were
Speaker 3: mandated not to have any public access or any kind
Speaker 3: of uh you know, personal contact. We canceled our auctions
Speaker 3: for about three years. I think it was a photo
Speaker 3: of five auctions total. And so in the course of that,
Speaker 3: business went on as usual, and as things broke down
Speaker 3: and we decided to buy and trade things in we
Speaker 3: collected farm equipment and surplus property that was bigger than
Speaker 3: I've ever seen, and I've been there for about thirty
Speaker 3: five years. So when that morning broke and nobody had
Speaker 3: been to an auction in three or four years, we
Speaker 3: had a line out to the highway almost of vehicles.
Speaker 3: We had a line of eleven hundred and twelve hundred
Speaker 3: people in line at one time getting registered, and the
Speaker 3: Sheriff's office actually shut down Highway sixty coming into the
Speaker 3: complex on both ends because the traffic was backed up
Speaker 3: all the way in town. So anyway, so we know
Speaker 3: not to save them up anymore like that.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I hope you don't have to do that.
Speaker 1: I imagine the state police, Kentucky State Police were just
Speaker 1: awfully happy, weren't they.
Speaker 3: Well they helped us work that, one preacharged. So yeah,
Speaker 3: very nice.
Speaker 2: I think you do know some people you do not?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I know them now better than I did before.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, So.
Speaker 1: At your auctions, did you sign up when you get in?
Speaker 1: When you get there, you take cash, check, credit card?
Speaker 2: Is how does that work?
Speaker 3: Chip? We'll take cash, credit card, check. If you bring
Speaker 3: us a check and you buy an item or a
Speaker 3: volume of materials more than five thousand dollars, you need
Speaker 3: a letter from your bank show them that you are
Speaker 3: covered to that purchase. Fair enough, but typically you know,
Speaker 3: people will pay cash because there is a virus premium
Speaker 3: and there is a three percent on credit card use.
Speaker 3: So like other auctions, I think that standard across the
Speaker 3: world now. So if you buy some one hundred dollars,
Speaker 3: you're going to end up paying about one hundred and
Speaker 3: thirteen or something.
Speaker 2: So yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: So in the case of firearms, if you buy a
Speaker 1: firearm at this auction, does that can you take it
Speaker 1: with you or do you do you have to go
Speaker 1: does it have to go through like a you know,
Speaker 1: an ffoul licensed individual.
Speaker 3: Here's here's the process of that. We have the guns here.
Speaker 3: We don't let people handle guns anymore because people are
Speaker 3: crazy these days, and so we hold the guns up
Speaker 3: on an auction block. They show it to the public,
Speaker 3: they show size of it. They don't work the action,
Speaker 3: they don't point it towards people. We do in a
Speaker 3: safe manner, and people see what the gun is. People
Speaker 3: that have looked at our listing before know what that
Speaker 3: gun is, and they can see how good it looks.
Speaker 3: And if there's a gun that is damage broken or
Speaker 3: illegal in any way we have those destroyed with they
Speaker 3: don't go to the auction block. These are good guns, now,
Speaker 3: well they have a rust or scratch on them or something.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's possible because you know, we don't have some
Speaker 3: those treats are gun that we've been and we've confiscated
Speaker 3: from someone. So in the process of that, you bat
Speaker 3: it gun. It has a lot number, We take it
Speaker 3: back and put in our building. Nobody handles it. When
Speaker 3: they pay for that item, they take that receipt and
Speaker 3: payment and they go down to and we have a
Speaker 3: contract with the nearest gun store and that's Gilbert's Guns.
Speaker 3: This is about a half them out in the roof
Speaker 3: from us right now, and we take the guns to them,
Speaker 3: they take possession of them. Then FTL Licensed dealership and
Speaker 3: that's where that process of the background check has to
Speaker 3: be performed.
Speaker 1: Okay, is that on site, Dens, that's gun store on
Speaker 1: It's not on site.
Speaker 3: No, no, you can't. In the other days, we used
Speaker 3: to do it them on site, but we don't anymore.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Well that's for those out there that are
Speaker 1: are not in favor of my second mannerment rights.
Speaker 2: You've heard it from the tour.
Speaker 1: So sit tight more with John Akers with the Kentucky
Speaker 1: Department of Fish and Wildlife's two two five action in
Speaker 1: just a moment on the Big Outdoor seven hundred WLW
Speaker 1: Cincinnati News Radio is seven hundred WLW Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Danny, did I mention what's happening around here today? I
Speaker 2: think I forgot?
Speaker 3: Did I?
Speaker 1: First segment?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, Well anyway, Gary Jeff's up at the bottom of
Speaker 1: the hour with his usual cast of characters and Michael
Speaker 1: k Allen the same thing from nine to noon, and
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. That's the day, and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a hell of a lot of fun. That's
Speaker 1: how I look at it. You know this is around here,
Speaker 1: I know, I know. Thanks Danny for helping me out there.
Speaker 1: John Akers is with us. He's with the Kentucky Department
Speaker 1: of Fish and Wildlife program coordinator for the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five Fall auction. I know we need to we need
Speaker 1: to catch up on some additional rules here regarding firearms.
Speaker 2: So you get it out there.
Speaker 3: Shut me to get it out there.
Speaker 2: I want you to get it out there.
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, here's what it is. And on all these goods.
Speaker 3: Chip everybody has to pass a background check, and so
Speaker 3: we do that off site at a FTO licensed dealership
Speaker 3: which is just right down the road. So after the
Speaker 3: auction of the guns is completed, just the guns only,
Speaker 3: we will have staff, our law enforcement guys will take
Speaker 3: those guns down and process them over and give them
Speaker 3: to that dealership and they will in turn take paid recipients.
Speaker 3: After they pay us, they'll go down to the receipt
Speaker 3: and they'll do the background check. And they've already got
Speaker 3: a listing of the guns, so we've expedited us pretty good.
Speaker 3: All they have to do is look up the serial
Speaker 3: number of the gun, but the person's name on if
Speaker 3: they fill out the background check, and then they see
Speaker 3: if they pass. As long as they pass, they can
Speaker 3: pick up the gun that day when they're done. If
Speaker 3: there's a hold on it, sometimes there's a twenty four
Speaker 3: hour hold, sometimes there's a three day hold or a
Speaker 3: seven day hold, they'll have to come back and as
Speaker 3: soon as it's cleared.
Speaker 1: So well, you know, I'm looking at your list of
Speaker 1: fire arms and it's quite quite impressive, and you know,
Speaker 1: just doesn't matter, I guess, just a point of discussion.
Speaker 1: Just do these things like go for maybe half their
Speaker 1: value or something like that. I mean, I you just
Speaker 1: never know.
Speaker 3: I'm torn between this answers. So I'm gonna give it
Speaker 3: to you this way. No, they don't. They don't sell
Speaker 3: cheaper than you boum its store. Okay, sometimes they'll be
Speaker 3: worth more because sometimes they're somebody's grandfather's gun and he
Speaker 3: went it back. Yeah, and so if there's some little
Speaker 3: value to it, who knows what it'll go for. But
Speaker 3: in most cases, I would bet in most cases the
Speaker 3: value of the guns are probably eighty to ninety percent
Speaker 3: of what they're worth.
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's an auction, and you just you know,
Speaker 1: you just know, you never know. And this this is
Speaker 1: a darn big one. So I got to ask you, John,
Speaker 1: what else is your responsibility with Kentucky Department of Fish
Speaker 1: and Wildlife? Because you're a very nuts and bolts gonna guy.
Speaker 3: Well, let me see if I can simplify without spending
Speaker 3: the rest of the day on it. I'm the I'm
Speaker 3: the guy that that monitors are inventory agency. If we
Speaker 3: have trucks or boats, or motors or guns or any
Speaker 3: kind of equipment at our three camps. We have three
Speaker 3: conservation camps in the state. All of the equipment our
Speaker 3: agency utilizes uses and is in possession that are fixed assets.
Speaker 3: And a fixed asset is like a tool or a
Speaker 3: commodity with a serial number. We don't inventory corn or
Speaker 3: chemicals or things like that that we utilize. That's that's
Speaker 3: a usable commodity.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: So if you can, if you can imagine anything worth
Speaker 3: five hundred dollars or more that you can purchase in
Speaker 3: the state of Kentucky, that fish welefid use. I have
Speaker 3: it listed and a monitor, it's whereabouts and who's in
Speaker 3: possession of it?
Speaker 1: Okay, and that's all your your all your game warnings
Speaker 1: and biologists.
Speaker 2: And audio staff, field staff. Yeah anything.
Speaker 1: I never gave that any thought whatsoever in thirty two years.
Speaker 1: Somebody has to keep track of all that crap.
Speaker 3: Well I can. I can make it uglier. The second
Speaker 3: part of that is the vehicles. I monitor the insurance
Speaker 3: on the vehicles and the damage and the repairs through
Speaker 3: our fleet management program people, so it does stop.
Speaker 2: Did they give you an award every year?
Speaker 3: I got one one year. Yeah, okay. I have to
Speaker 3: retire to get it so well that that's that's just awesome.
Speaker 1: Let's uh, you know we're going to hit a break
Speaker 1: here shortly. But I and you're with the agency thirty
Speaker 1: two years.
Speaker 3: I've been here since eighty nine. I retired for a
Speaker 3: year and then they talked to me into coming back.
Speaker 3: And and I've dropped my keys on their desk two
Speaker 3: three times that they won't let me quit. So but
Speaker 3: I'm working on them. I'm working on Okay.
Speaker 2: So have they given you an apprentice yet?
Speaker 3: You know I've got one coming next believe it or not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because obviously that's what they hadn't planned on, is
Speaker 1: that they needed to get somebody in there with you, okay,
Speaker 1: for you to train to do it the way it
Speaker 1: should be done or has to be done to satisfy
Speaker 1: all the regulations, so to speak.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm glad you've recognized that, and you said it
Speaker 3: for me. I won't have to go preach it again,
Speaker 3: so good.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, tell me I'll call your boss.
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll give you a number when we hang up. Okay,
Speaker 3: all right, but.
Speaker 1: I'm not letting you go yet because I got a
Speaker 1: two minute wrap up. I want you to come back
Speaker 1: and give us the particular this again. Thanks all right,
Speaker 1: John said, tight with that, I'll be back at a moment,
Speaker 1: chip Park, The Big Outdoors News Radio seven hundred w
Speaker 1: l W, Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: News Radio seven hundred w LW. Hey, we're back The.
Speaker 1: Big Outdoors News Radio, seven hundred WLW, Cincinnati, Chip Park.
Speaker 1: My guest, John Acres, Kentucky Department Official, My life and John,
Speaker 1: I've had a fun morning.
Speaker 3: Good good.
Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for the time, and you've
Speaker 1: enlightened me on a number of different fronts. So give
Speaker 1: people the particulars for the auction. Your twenty twenty five auction.
Speaker 1: Monday morning, October.
Speaker 3: Six, YEP Gates gates a little at seven o'clock, come
Speaker 3: in and register. We'll start the auction if depending on
Speaker 3: the registration how well that's going, about nine thirty, sometimes ten,
Speaker 3: we'll we'll wait a little bit, but it'll start here
Speaker 3: at the at the confiscated area where we keep guns
Speaker 3: and confiscated items, and then we'll progress on down the
Speaker 3: field into the surplus items, surplus vehicles, farm equipment, UTV's, ATVs,
Speaker 3: that type of equipment tools. Just generalize stuff that is
Speaker 3: on the list. If anybody wants to get online and
Speaker 3: look at it on our website.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I'll tell you what. That's fantastic.
Speaker 1: And folks, gosh, you got Christmas coming up, so get
Speaker 1: out there and get something right. John Acres, thank.
Speaker 2: You very much. And I'll look up catching catching up
Speaker 2: down the road.
Speaker 1: But you know, if you retired, then I gotta I
Speaker 1: gotta work with your apprentice next time around.
Speaker 3: Well, I'll make sure I introduce them. Please.
Speaker 2: You appreci all right, take care of that. We gotta
Speaker 2: get out of here. Gary Jeffers.
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Speaker 2: Be Safe in the woods and safe on the water.