1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,559 Speaker 1: Well, I'm in a good mood. I'm in a good 2 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: mood for many reasons. I'm in a good mood that 3 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: I'm back in this chair. I'm a good mood that 4 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: my friend Jackson Feltz is in that room right there. 5 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm in a good mood because Hugh Breed love millin working. 6 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: I think like our number thirty of the day on 7 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: the radio station is with us. 8 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: Hi, Hugh, you are you? Did you get a nap 9 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: at some. 10 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 3: Time at some point? Yeah, And I'm gonna just apologize 11 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 3: to our P one listeners. Those in the uh in 12 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 3: the industry, they call those what do they call those? 13 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 3: Jackson the one a day? 14 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: Right? 15 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, that have to hear me for the third time. 16 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 3: But I was asked, I was asked to fill in 17 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 3: with Softy, and it's great to be with Dick and Jackson. 18 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 3: So let's uh, let's rev it up, man, Let's hit 19 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: this thing hard. 20 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: And finally, I'm in a good reason because we have, gentlemen, 21 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: a thirteen and three football team for just the third 22 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: time ever, we have a team that has a one 23 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: and eighty one point differential that is second Old only 24 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: by five points to twenty thirteen. So with a decent 25 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: size win next week. They can eclipse that. They have 26 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: seven road wins, tied for the most ever. They have 27 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: four hundred and seventy points scored gentlemen, which is the 28 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: most ever. And yet we think this offense for the 29 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: most part, stinks. So it's I mean, there's an interesting 30 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: dichotomy going on right now with this football team. But 31 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: I'm just in a word, guys, I'm appreciative of what 32 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: we have here in Seattle. I'm appreciative of what John 33 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: Schneider has done to change over this football team. I 34 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: am appreciative of what Mike McDonald has come in in 35 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: the first two years. I'm appreciative of what Sam donald 36 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: has done in the sixteen games this season. I may 37 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: be in the minority, but I am going to bask 38 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: in thirteen and three right now because Hugh thirteen and three, 39 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: as we know, does not come around very often. In fact, 40 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: it's only come around three times in fifty years. 41 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I couldn't agree more. And you're the second 42 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 3: youngest team in the NFL, and you've got a quarterback 43 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: who's twenty eight years old, and and you know you 44 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 3: went on the road. Did Carolina look like a real 45 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 3: formidable team. No, not at all, but Seattle helped that 46 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: perception and recalled it. Just a couple of weeks ago, 47 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 3: the Rams went out there and Carolina put up thirty 48 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 3: one points in a thirty one to twenty eight win. 49 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 3: And Carolina went to green Bay when green Bay was 50 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 3: flying as high as they could, when Michael Parsons was 51 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 3: still healthy, and they beat green Bay at green Bay. 52 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 3: So this is a team in Carolina that was you know, 53 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: entered the game and actually, as we know, still in 54 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: the position to win that division. You know, I don't 55 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: think they're going to strike fearing many teams that have 56 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 3: to play them, but they weren't the dregs of the NFL, 57 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: and they went out and absolutely dominated over the course 58 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: of sixty mon in dominate for thirty minutes, but sixty minutes, 59 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 3: seventeen point win against a team fighting to win the 60 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: division on the road. 61 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: Pretty good and one of the best defensive performances as 62 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: far as yards are allowed in fifty years of Seahawks football, 63 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: I mean, eighth fewest yards allowed in franchise history, fewest 64 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: since twenty fifteen. We've had a lot of good defenses, 65 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: maybe not a lot of great defenses since twenty fifteen. 66 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: But we've had a lot of good defenses since twenty fifteen, 67 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: and this was the fewest yards allowed in a decade. 68 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: And I think it seems like every the further we 69 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: go along this season, the further it kind of feels 70 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: to me like this is kind of twenty thirteen all 71 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: over again. And what I mean by that is that 72 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, I mean when we were sitting here 73 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: and I'm sure we did a show right after the 74 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: Monday night football game in Saint Louis, when the Seahawks, 75 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: you know, needed a late Golden Tate touchdown to score 76 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: fourteen points in a fourteen to nine game, when we 77 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: needed over time. The week after that, on November the 78 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: third of twenty thirteen to beat Tampa Bay, a terrible, awful, 79 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: horrible might even have been winless Tampa Bay team at 80 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: that point, where we got down like seventeen to nothing 81 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the game, When we had this 82 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: terrible game against San Francisco down there where we only 83 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: scored seventeen points, when we lost the last game of 84 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: the regular season to the Arizona Cardinals seventeen to ten, 85 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: it feels it feels. 86 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 2: A little bit like deja vu. 87 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: Here man A Jogi would say, deja vu all over 88 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: again here where this offense was criticized soundly all October 89 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: November December of twenty thirteen long, and yet they got 90 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: it all together. They scored enough against New Orleans to 91 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: win twenty three to fifteen, They scored enough against San 92 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: Francisco to win at twenty three seventeen, and they scored 93 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: more than enough in the Super Bowl to win at 94 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: forty three to eight. 95 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 2: How many can can you? Can you sense any. 96 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: Similarities between kind of the angst that that team had 97 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: to go through and the arrows that Seahawks fans were 98 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: firing at Russell Wilson in that offense twelve years ago 99 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: and kind of compare it to today. 100 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a lot of good apt comparisons 101 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: and and and it's good to be reminded of all that. 102 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: And obviously that was the legion of Boom. We didn't 103 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: know it, but we were at the beginning the second 104 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 3: year of four where the Seahawks were number one in 105 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 3: the NFL fewest points allowed. I mean, that is quite 106 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 3: a stamp at the lob made and it's the only 107 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 3: team in the Super Bowl era that has ever done that, 108 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: and so you know, and had they you know, they 109 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: just narrowly, had you know, missed a shutout, it would 110 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 3: have been could you imagine if that was the only 111 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: shutout in the history of the Super Bowl and that 112 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 3: was against a a st record setting offense. You know 113 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: that if you go to the two thousand Super Bowl 114 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 3: where the Ravens beat the Giants, you know, the Giants, 115 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: you know, they were kind of feeble on offense, and 116 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 3: the same thing for Tampa Bay in two thousand and two. 117 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say the Raiders were feeble offensively, but they 118 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 3: were nothing like what the Broncos were in twenty thirteen. 119 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: That was a record setting in so many statistics, number 120 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 3: one in the history of the NFL. And that's what 121 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 3: Seattle's defense did. Anyways, we're kind of getting into the 122 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 3: grain with the twenty thirteen team just the comparisons. Yes, 123 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 3: you're right, and certainly this is a defense dominated team. 124 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 3: They got a long way to go to be compared 125 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 3: or to be you know, thought to be the parallel 126 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: of the LOB. But what they're doing is they're right 127 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: on track. They are right on track with a young 128 00:06:55,360 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 3: defense and Mike McDonald, and you know how how I 129 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 3: feel about him. So it's fun times. 130 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: It is, and it's you know, it would be unfair 131 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: to compare this defense to the complete picture of what 132 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: the lob accomplished. 133 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 3: It would be. 134 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: More fair to compare this defense in year two under 135 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 1: mcmike McDonald to where the LOB was in this time 136 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, because at this time, at twenty thirteen, 137 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: there was no Super Bowl championship, there was no back 138 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: to back Super Bowl appearance, there was no number one 139 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: in the NFL scoring defense year after year after year 140 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: after year. They'd only done it one time in twenty twelve, 141 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: and we're on their way to doing it again in 142 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. But the one where the comparison ends, I 143 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: think you is the turnovers. And and let's kind of 144 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: let's kind of dive in to the turnovers and the 145 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: root cause of the turnovers, because I mean one, you 146 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: know one cause maybe maybe you're telling me, hey, Arrel's 147 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: much more close to the vest Kobiak and Mike McDonald 148 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: let Sam Donald rip a little bit more than in 149 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: Russell will was, and that's why there's so many fewer turnovers. 150 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: That year than this year, or you. 151 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: Might tell me that day Russell Wilson was just heck 152 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: of a lot better protecting the ball than Sam Donald 153 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: was as a quarterback. Would how would you delve into 154 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: that conversation there, Well. 155 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 3: First of all, I would say, if you're saying you're 156 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: comparing twenty thirteen to this year because it's year two, 157 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 3: just remember and I know you know this, but as 158 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 3: a reminder, that was Pete Carroll's fourth year. First year 159 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 3: was twenty ten, and they had the combination of Gus 160 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: Bradley and Dan Quinn and so that there was stability 161 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 3: in terms of how they they taught the cover three 162 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: and what have you, and Snyder they had to get 163 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 3: their pieces. So it wasn't until year excuse me, year 164 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 3: four of Carol that you win the Super Bowl. So 165 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: I think Mike McDonald, I mean, you could make argument 166 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 3: this is comparable to twenty eleven. Yeah, that's right, which 167 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: is which means that Mike McDonald is way ahead of 168 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 3: the curve. Now you know that's not the only way 169 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 3: to analyze it, but it's a way to analyze it. 170 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 3: But you're you're talking about turnovers offensively or. 171 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, offensively I'm talking about the fact that, you know, 172 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: Sam Donald is one of the higher turnover both fumbles 173 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: and interceptions in the NFL, and that was not part 174 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: of Russ's game. We just want to continue this, you know, comparison, 175 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: which I kind of started obviously with twenty thirteen because 176 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: I am you know, when I've launched this thought that 177 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: I'm launching on the air here, when I've launched it 178 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: on Twitter, the main pushback I get is, yeah, but 179 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: that team took care of the ball and this one doesn't. 180 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: So let's kind of delve into that. I mean, we're 181 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: going to break down this game. We're going to talk 182 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: about all the plays that happened in this game, but 183 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: overall in general, how would you respond to those people 184 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: that are pushing back and saying, yeah, but this quarterback 185 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: puts the ball on the ground and puts the ball 186 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: in the hands of the opposition far more than we've 187 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: seen in the past. 188 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, and it's something that you'd prefer to 189 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 3: not put the ball on the ground and not throw 190 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 3: interceptions as opposed to doing it. I would just say 191 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 3: it's kind of like the game of Djenga. You know, 192 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 3: be careful, you know, how you upset you want to 193 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: pull out the interceptions, just be prepared as to what 194 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: the unwanted consequences could be, because I look at it 195 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: and I say, yeah, yeah, Like nobody excuses interceptions. But 196 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 3: you're getting in Sam Darnold, the quarterback with the number 197 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 3: one rating in passer rating on deep throws, number one 198 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: in the NFL. You're getting the quarterback number one in 199 00:10:54,960 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 3: terms of where passing yards per dropback, number one in 200 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 3: the NFL, Number one in the percentage of plays that 201 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 3: are ten yards or more, number one in number two, 202 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 3: now number two and percentage of plays there are twenty yards. 203 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: I mean, there's all these statistics that point to the 204 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 3: big plays. And I touched on it with Ian. If 205 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: you run correlation numbers on interceptions and correlate correlation is 206 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: you know I've said it before, is okay hot days 207 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 3: in the summer. Number of hot days is going to 208 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 3: correlate to ice cream sales positively, right, right, But number 209 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 3: of hot days is going to negatively correlate to hot 210 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 3: chocolate sales. Correct. Okay, So we get all that, and 211 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 3: the closer you are to zero that is statistically insignificant. 212 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 3: No correlation the closest you are. It's like a batting average, 213 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 3: you know. You know, if you had a seven hundred 214 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 3: batting average or a five hundred batting average, that'd be 215 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 3: a great batting average, right, So it lives in that 216 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: world with the negative. So this year, interceptions have a 217 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 3: zero eighty one correlation, right, less than one hundred. That's 218 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 3: very clear. Imagine a bat baseball hitter hitting eighty one 219 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 3: last year was you would expect it. By the way, 220 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: when I say negative, we would expect you say, wait 221 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 3: a minute for correlating it to wins. Wins go up 222 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 3: as interceptions go down, so you would expect them to 223 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 3: have like I would. My hypothesis would be it would 224 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 3: be certainly a negative correlation, and it would be relatively 225 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 3: moderate to high in correlation, like negative five hundred, negative 226 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 3: six hundred compared to some others. For example, you know, 227 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: just to put it into context, passing yards per dropback 228 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: has a positive five eighty four correlation, which is large, 229 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 3: and Sam Donald's number one, that's that's that's large five 230 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 3: eighty four. Think of a hitter going you know, bat 231 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 3: in five eighty four. So here's the correlations over the 232 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 3: last six years for interceptions, just gross and total numbers 233 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 3: of interceptions, as as it relates to winning percentage. This 234 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 3: year it's point eighty one, so it's eighty one last year. 235 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 3: And that's, by the way, a positive not negative. Yes, 236 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 3: so it's actually not lasting. 237 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: You at all. 238 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 3: Last year was negative. You'd expect it, but it's only 239 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 3: twenty eight. The year before that was oh my god, 240 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 3: it's not only is it positive, it's two fifteen, So 241 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 3: the only time it's not even been close to zero, 242 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: it's actually as a positive. What that means is the 243 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 3: more interceptions you're throwing, the more you're winning, not to 244 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 3: a great extent, because two to fifteen isn't strong. The 245 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: year before that twenty twenty two, negative eighty nine. Yes 246 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 3: it's negative, but it's only eighty nine. Remember now, the 247 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 3: the what did I say on the five eighty four 248 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 3: for passing yards per dropback? 249 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 4: Right? 250 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 3: The year before that thirty one. The year before that 251 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 3: negative forty four. So in five of the last six 252 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 3: years the correlation has been under one hundred. In three 253 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 3: of the last six years it's been positive. Three of 254 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 3: the last six years been negative. If you do the aggregate, 255 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 3: it's a positive twenty eight almost the statistic professors that 256 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 3: are driving around going positive twenty eight is next to nothing. 257 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 3: That's basically like are you putting on your left sock first? 258 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 3: Or you're right? 259 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 5: Well? 260 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: And the only logical hypothesis for this, because somebody's driving 261 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: around goal, howait a second, Hugh, how can you possibly 262 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: throw more interceptions and it helps you win? 263 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: Well? 264 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: Because throwing more interceptions would lead me to believe that 265 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: the quarterback is taking more shots down field. And as 266 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: you and as you mentioned, the the shots down field, 267 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: the chunk plays, the explosive plays are more favorable to 268 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: winning than the turnovers are favorable to losing. 269 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: That's exactly right. And you know, and then a deep 270 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 3: pass deep attent passer rating, uh Sam Darl's number one 271 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 3: in the NFL, that is a five thirty one correlation 272 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 3: to winning. So everything that you point, Look, I don't 273 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 3: want to just say, well who cares about interceptions? Like 274 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: nobody thinks that way. What What what I'm saying is 275 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 3: that they're these numbers are indisputable. And and you say, okay, 276 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 3: that's the numbers base argument. Now kind of do the 277 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 3: common sense, Well you just articulate it exactly right. It's 278 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 3: it's what you have is the winning quarterbacks or they 279 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 3: are pushing them. There's an aggressiveness to what they do 280 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: and the difference. What the stats show is there's not 281 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 3: a hell of a lot of difference between throwing an 282 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 3: interception and then going you know, three and out and punting. 283 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: And I think we as Seahawks fans and me in general, 284 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: because I am I am a more conservative offense, especially 285 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: when I have a G eight defense. I mean, I 286 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: was screaming, you know, at the top of my lungs yesterday, 287 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: just just run the ball, just run the ball. Just 288 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: don't give it to them. Caroline is not gonna score. 289 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: And I've said that other than the Rams game, I've 290 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: said that for basically every other game the Seahawks have 291 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: played over the last six weeks. I've been like, hey, 292 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: just win the game thirteen to seven. Man, They're not 293 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: gonna score more than seven points. And basically none of 294 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: these teams have scored more than almost more than ten points. 295 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: So we could have won that way. That hasn't been 296 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: what Kobeak and McDonald have chosen, and they've been right. 297 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: They've won all the games. 298 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: And they've ended up scoring Yeah, in the twenties every time, 299 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: just about it. 300 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and I want you to think about this. 301 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: Can we look up, Jackson, can you look up the 302 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 3: date that Seattle signed Sam Donald? 303 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 4: Well, you know, if Hugh, I will, I will do 304 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 4: that in the break because we've got to go to 305 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 4: the commercial. 306 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: We'll take a break, Jackson, do that in the break 307 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: and we'll come back. And I've got I've got a 308 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: Sam Donald related Twitter pool. I think you guys will 309 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: be very very interested in as well. Softian Deck without 310 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: the soft One. He's out today and tomorrow. Jackson is here. 311 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: Hugh is here on ninety three point three KJRFM from 312 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: the R. 313 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: And R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. 314 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 5: Now back to SOFTI and Dick on your home for 315 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 5: the Huskies, Kraken and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety 316 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 5: three point three kjr FM. 317 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: Welcome back, Softian Dick without the soft One. Taking a 318 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: few days off here around. 319 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: January first, will be off Wednesday Thursday, but Hugh. 320 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 2: Is with us. Jackson is with us. 321 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: Today, tomorrow and Friday. And he has been on many, 322 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: many times today, which has been fabulous. I've been tuning 323 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: in and out all morning long, all early afternoon long, 324 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: and a conversation that Hugh and Ian had in a 325 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: one o'clock hour led me to this Twitter poll. Pick 326 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: the one that is the most accurate. The the Hawks 327 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: are winning because of Sam Donald the Hawks are winning 328 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: in spite of Sam Donald. Now, obviously the correct answer 329 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: is somewhere in between, but Hugh, we don't allow weasel 330 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: options on the Twitter poll. 331 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 3: So if you're. 332 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: Fifty point one percent that Sam Donald is is causing 333 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: you to win more than he's hurting you, than you 334 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: would vote for the Hawks are winning because of Sam Donald. 335 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: In it is unbelievably tight right now, fifty one percent 336 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: to forty nine percent say the Seahawks are winning in 337 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: spite of Sam Donald. 338 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: Jackson, how would you vote on. 339 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 4: That, Poles, Because it's I think, and I don't even 340 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 4: think it's that close. It's I mean, I would just 341 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 4: refer you to the drive in overtime against the Rams 342 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 4: a week and a half ago where he throws some 343 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 4: money balls, not only of course the winner to Sopper, 344 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 4: which was just a millimeter from going off a Ram helmet, 345 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 4: but also how about that passed a Cooper cup down 346 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 4: the right sidelines. 347 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that is a pro Bowl, you know. 348 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 2: Starter level pass. He threw some guards in the second half, Yester, 349 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: I was gonna say. 350 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 4: And then you go to yesterday's game, that eight minute 351 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 4: drive in the fourth quarter that took eight off the 352 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 4: clock and ended in three points. 353 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Sam Darnald came up huge. 354 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 4: Come on, people like, let's give some credit. 355 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: Where it's due. 356 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: This dude is bawling right now. 357 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: But Hugh, there is this, there is this general consensus 358 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: amongst a lot of people out there that you know, 359 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,479 Speaker 1: we're just kind of winning in spite of Sam darnld 360 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: So how would you respond to those people? 361 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: Well, I think that winning is more than just making 362 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 3: the plays to win. It's avoiding the plays that lose 363 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 3: the games. And I think that there are are many 364 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 3: ways that he's avoiding. Like you say, well, he's got interceptions, 365 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 3: but there's other things that are happening in those games. 366 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 3: You know, at Pittsburgh when things were really really tough, 367 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 3: on that third down, Patrick Queen comes unblocked, he spins around, 368 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 3: gets a twenty seven yard or at Arizona that was 369 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 3: a losable game as the defense kind of collapsed in 370 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. He hits the two fade routes up 371 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 3: the right side to line up the left with you know, 372 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 3: in the in the the tight situation that was I 373 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 3: mean even even that, you know Atlanta was losable. The 374 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 3: plays against Jacksonville where that was a losable game, I mean, 375 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: there's far more losable games. I mean, you know you're 376 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 3: talking about in Darnold. He's tied for the NFL in 377 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 3: wins for this win percentage for this season, right you 378 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 3: go over the so over one season, he's tied for 379 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 3: first over two seasons last year. In this he's first 380 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 3: over four seasons going back to twenty twenty two, he's first. 381 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 3: That's over forty starts. Forty starts. It's thirty nine and one. 382 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 3: That's that's better than Mahomes, better than thirty better than 383 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 3: Josh Allen. 384 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: He said, thirty nine and one. I don't think you mean. 385 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: I'm sorry thirty one to nine, thirty one and nine, yeah, yeah, 386 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: out ahead of myself. I'm thank you for I'm not yeah, 387 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 3: he's good, not that good. I'm silly, but I'm not 388 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 3: got cha. So thirty one and nine and and by 389 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 3: the ways of the guys in the top five, he's 390 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 3: the only one who has a hundred passer rating. The 391 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 3: others are below that, So I look and I and 392 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 3: I would just follow it up with this, let's play 393 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 3: a little thought experiment. The Seahawks traded Gino Smith on 394 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: March seventh. They signed Sam Donald on March thirteenth, So 395 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 3: it's basically a week they had where where John Schneider 396 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 3: and Mike McDonald didn't know who the quarterback was going 397 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 3: to be. You know, you didn't know who was going 398 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 3: to throw money at Sam Donald, right, And so let's 399 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 3: say there they're really zeroing in on Sam Donald and 400 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, a football genie pops out 401 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 3: from the closet or I guess they come out of bottles, right, 402 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 3: And it says, hey, before you sign that, I'm going 403 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 3: to show you a crystal ball of everything that Sam 404 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 3: Donald's gonna do this year before you sign that. Now, 405 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna show you others. It's kind of like, 406 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 3: let's make a deal. I'm gonna show you what's behind 407 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 3: door number one. You get to see every single thing. 408 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 3: And this is what they say. Okay Schneider and mcons says, yeah, yeah, 409 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 3: Gene showed me that crystal ball. Well this is what 410 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 3: he's gonna say. Well, you're going into the final game 411 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 3: of season. You're gonna be the number one seed and 412 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 3: tied for the winning winning this record in the NFL, 413 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 3: You're gonna have tied a franchise record with a chance 414 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 3: to beat it. You're gonna set a franchise record for points. 415 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 3: You're gonna be number two in the league in scoring. 416 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 3: Your quarterback. Darnold is going to be number one in 417 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 3: the NFL in deep passer rating, number one in the 418 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 3: NFL in passing yards per dropback, number one in the 419 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 3: NFL in percentage of plays there are ten or more yards. 420 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 3: He's gonna be number two in off target percentage, So 421 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 3: he's gonna be the second most on tiget. That's by 422 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 3: the NFL stats, Number two in success plays. That's the 423 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 3: uh that's forty the needed yards on first down, sixty 424 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 3: percent of the needed yards on second and and all 425 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 3: the needed yards on third and four. So there's going 426 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 3: to be not just a big play component, but there's 427 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 3: gonna be an efficiency point again, number two in that 428 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 3: and he's gonna be number two in EPA per dropback 429 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: expected points. Added that said that new metrics I'm going 430 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 3: to tell you, and by the way, he's gonna have 431 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 3: the eighteenth highest contract at thirty three and a half million. 432 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 3: Not only would John Snyder and Mike McDonald sign sign up, 433 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 3: it would be like you know, in the movie Pretty Woman, 434 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 3: you got Vivian played by Julia Roberts Edward played by 435 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 3: Richard Gearing. You remember they negotiate three thousand dollars for 436 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 3: Vivian to stay with Edward for a week. Vivian comes 437 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 3: up and says, with a little smug smiuse says, I 438 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 3: would have stayed for two thousand and he. Edward replies, 439 00:23:54,480 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 3: I would have paid four that right, like Mike mc 440 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 3: donald John Schneider would have paid way more than thirty 441 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 3: three point five. And I'll close the thought experiment with this. 442 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 3: If you gave them all those facts and then and then, 443 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 3: and then they asked the genie, well, how many interceptions 444 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 3: he's gonna throw? Genesis, I'm not gonna tell you. You 445 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 3: know what they would have said, Well, if you give 446 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 3: me all those facts, here's a blank check. You write 447 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 3: as many interceptions as you want on there. I don't 448 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 3: care if it's four or forty, right, as many as 449 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 3: you want because obviously, and oh, by the way, you know, 450 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 3: let him know that the Seahawks are either number one 451 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 3: and or number two in all the defensive stats. Right, 452 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 3: so it didn't it didn't cripple the football team. If 453 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 3: you gave them those stats. John Schneider would get writ 454 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 3: a bank, give you a blank check on interceptions. You 455 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 3: think I'm being I'm playing around. I'm being dead serious 456 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 3: because you get prevent you from getting all that other stuff. 457 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: That's right, and you and you gave the and you 458 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: gave the win loss record. Is he out performing what 459 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: you thought he would do this year? Or or is 460 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: this about what. 461 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 2: You thought Sam Donald would be as a Seahawk quarterback. 462 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 4: Oh? 463 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 3: I didn't think they'd be sitting here at thirteen wins. No, 464 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 3: I just mean his performance. Yeah, yeah, I I he's 465 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 3: he's outperforming what I would have thought. Yes, I think 466 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 3: he is too. So I think he is too. 467 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: I didn't. 468 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 1: No, I didn't necessarily see that this many turnovers. 469 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: But I didn't. I absolutely didn't see see. 470 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be a much more conservative 471 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: game plan this year. I thought it was just gonna 472 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: it was gonna be dnk and dunk, it was gonna 473 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: be boots, it was gonna be really pound the run 474 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: and then if Sam Donald can win you a game 475 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: down the stretch at some point, great, but if not, 476 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: we're not gonna have him lose the game for you. 477 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: It's been way more wide open than I ever thought 478 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 1: this offense would be this year. 479 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would agree with that. I mean there was, 480 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 3: you know, the thought they're gonna get into twenty one 481 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 3: personnel and maybe jack hammer a little bit more, some hardball, 482 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 3: but you know, and then play action. I don't even 483 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 3: go into the playoffs stuff where he's number one. So so, 484 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 3: but he was. He was a big play producer last 485 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 3: year with the Vikings. Everybody says, well, he's got Justin 486 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 3: Jefferson and acid, right, but he's taken that big play 487 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 3: ability and he's taking it right over to here. So 488 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 3: so yeah, we talked about in the first segment. Nobody 489 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 3: wants these interceptions, but the mentality when you hear Mike 490 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 3: McDonald come on and say, hey, we're just say Sam, hey, 491 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 3: let it rip, you go do your thing. We're hearing 492 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 3: that because Mike McDonald understands the delicate Jenga tower. That 493 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 3: is the way a quarterback has to perform and the 494 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 3: way he has to approach what he's doing. And now 495 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 3: the argument against that would be, well, that the big 496 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 3: plays were mostly front loaded. He hasn't played as well 497 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 3: in in the last seven games. 498 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 2: But his second halves have been good the last month. 499 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 3: He's and this is another part of it that you'd 500 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 3: want to see in the crystal ball. Well, when he 501 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 3: plays poorly, how does he play in the crunch time well, 502 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 3: the second half against the ram excuse me, the fourth quarter, uh, 503 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 3: and overtime against the Rams when he had had a 504 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,439 Speaker 3: passer rating of fifty one after that second interception and 505 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 3: he closes out with the passer rating of like. 506 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: Four. 507 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 3: I believe that is, honest to god. I said it 508 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 3: that night, that next day. I still believe it ten 509 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 3: days later. That's one of the guttiest quarterback performance by 510 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 3: any seat quarterback I've ever seen, because it's so hard 511 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 3: to have when he's in the year one in his 512 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 3: team and he's looking around at all these guys and 513 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 3: Ernest Jones went and said, f you if you want 514 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 3: to criticize my quarterback. But he's still in year one. 515 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 3: He's still trying to do it. The fans. You know, 516 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 3: he knows this. On national TV. Hell, he was asked 517 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 3: about it you know, all in the week leading up, 518 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 3: how about this idea, you can't win the big one? 519 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 3: You know, Well, he's too humbled to say, wait a minute, 520 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 3: when we beat the Packers last year on December twenty ninth, 521 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 3: and my teammates threw me up on their shoulders and 522 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: basically celebrated like we had just won the super Bowl, 523 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 3: Like that wasn't a big game, you know. You know, 524 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 3: so he doesn't get credit for the games that he's 525 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 3: won being big right, So anyways, the enormous weight after 526 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 3: he threw that second interception, he could feel the stadium, 527 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 3: he could feel what the enormity of Oh Sam Donald 528 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 3: can't win the big one? For him to dig freaking deep, 529 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 3: dig that deep and find that performance in the fourth 530 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,479 Speaker 3: quarter and overtime, I can't tell you how much respect 531 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 3: I have for that gut. And I just have to really, 532 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 3: I think I just want everybody to just pause for 533 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 3: a second and try and be Sam Donald in that moment, 534 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 3: try and be that guy with knowing how everybody is 535 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 3: looking at you. Oh my god, this guy is such 536 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 3: a choke artist, right, And he said nope, not tonight. 537 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 3: So it's fascinating when we'll. 538 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 2: Get back to him. 539 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: We have got a lot of plays we want to 540 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: get to. We haven't ven dived really into the Carolina 541 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: game yet at all. We've been talking more big picture 542 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: here in the three o'clock hour. We've got Fun with 543 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: Audio coming up next. You'll hear from Mike McDonald in 544 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: the four o'clock hour play some of his press conference. 545 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: Brandon Brown's gonna join us at five point thirty. He 546 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: is the host of Believe in Michigan podcast. There has 547 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: been a monumental shift in the Big ten, Kyle Whittingham 548 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: taking over as the head coach of Michigan. We'll talk 549 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: to him at five thirty about that, ever fits you. 550 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: At six fifteen, leading into Crack and Hockey on ninety 551 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: three point three KJRFM. 552 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 2: It's now time for Someday in Dick's Fun with Audio. 553 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: Jimmy g porn Star, Jimmy mister garoppolo. Now let's have 554 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: some fun with audio, all right. 555 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: Let's have some fun with audio show we Hugh Breedlove 556 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: Millan joins us and hey, Hugh. 557 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 2: Did you hear that? 558 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 3: What's that? 559 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: Dick Scott Van Pelt last night Sports Center in real 560 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: time learning that the ESPN family of Networks was getting 561 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: both Panthers Bucks and Seahawks forty nine ers this coming week. 562 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 6: Have our games for next week breaking news one second, 563 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 6: that's to massleback. Next week we've got hold on now Panthers, 564 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 6: Bucks four thirty, then Seahawks Niners. 565 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 3: Wow, we get both those games. Well, thank you very much, NFL. 566 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: What do you know about that little New York doubleheader? 567 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: We got pretty good, pretty good double dev he finds 568 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: out in real time. But it just got me thinking, though, 569 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: it's does it not just feel like a high school 570 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: basketball evening where you got the jv game at five 571 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: thirty in the varsity game at seven? I mean, my god, Bucks, Yeah, okay, Bucks, 572 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: Panthers winner of the division. 573 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 2: That's great. 574 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: It's also the winner gets housed by an NFC West 575 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: representative in the first round of the playoffs, right. 576 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 3: Well hopefully well, I mean well, let me let me 577 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 3: rephrase that. If it's the if it's the forty nine ers, 578 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 3: then I hope that they don't get out. Yeah, yeah, no, 579 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 3: I hope that there's an upset. But but no, I 580 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 3: thought that was great. Actually, I was watching that live 581 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 3: when it happened, and you know, Van Pelt's great I 582 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, that's firstly, I think I think 583 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 3: he's really good at what he does. And I thought 584 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 3: that was a very you know, candidate answer. But you're right. 585 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 3: I mean, look at this Saturday night. They they make 586 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 3: way for this game. I imagine it's gonna be a huge audience. Now, 587 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,959 Speaker 3: one could argue that the NFL put the Seattle San 588 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 3: Francisco game behind the Pittsburgh Baltimore game, right, Uh, that 589 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 3: is gonna be played Sunday night. I think that the 590 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 3: immediate thought is how it impacts, you know, a day 591 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 3: shorter for Seattle, having flown across the country and then 592 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 3: now they have to fly again. San Francisco, for their part, 593 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 3: they had to play on Monday night last week, so 594 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 3: they get the second straight week back to back of 595 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 3: a short week. Is a cumulative effect that impacts them adversely, 596 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 3: we hope so. But yeah, I knew it was gonna 597 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 3: be something like that. I just hadn't thought of the 598 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 3: Saturday night game. 599 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: Well, the Seahawks are the twentieth team Speaking of the schedule. 600 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: The Seahawks are the twentieth team in the last three 601 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: years to play back to back road games where the 602 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: second game is on a short week, and in the 603 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: first nineteen of those games, that team has gone six 604 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: and thirteen when they have had to play back to 605 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: back road games and the second game is on the 606 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: short week. So history, at least recent history is against 607 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: the Seahawks going in this game. I saw where the 608 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,959 Speaker 1: I've seen pick them. I've seen Hawks favored by as 609 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: much as one and a half. So it's probably gonna 610 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: bounce around like the line of the Rams Niners game 611 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: did Hey here there? 612 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, part of that is just that as 613 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 3: a general rule, teams don't play as well on the 614 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 3: road Seattle. 615 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 2: True, that's fair. 616 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 3: And so even if you I'd like to compare that 617 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 3: to back to back road games when you have seven 618 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 3: week seven days as opposed to sit right on the 619 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 3: second Is. 620 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 2: It the short week or is it the road? 621 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: Like, what's the correlation to losing the fact that you're 622 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: going back to back on the road or the fact 623 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: that the. 624 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 2: Short week is the is the second week? 625 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 3: But Seattle, you know, their statistics are much better defensively 626 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 3: on the road, and I have to think a portion 627 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 3: of that. It The question intrigues the heck out of me. 628 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 3: How much of that is due to better communication. 629 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: It has been mentioned, I don't remember. I think it 630 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: might have been Ernest Jones. I don't remember. Somebody was 631 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: asked over the last week or two from the Seahawks 632 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: and they said, yes, some of our breakdowns at home 633 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: defensively has been because we could not communicate with each 634 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: other and we got to get back of that. 635 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 2: Hey, Hugh, did you hear that? 636 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 3: What's that? Dick? 637 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: On the Saint Brown Podcast, the Lion's wide receiver a 638 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: Monros Saint Brown only shared his feelings speaking of scheduling 639 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: about having to play games this year on both Thanksgiving 640 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: and Christmas. 641 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 7: I don't think I've ever played on Christmas. Maybe I 642 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 7: have my rookie year against the Falcons. I might have 643 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 7: been Christmas Day. This is like Christmas Day during the week, 644 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 7: which is a little different. I've never played really Christmas 645 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 7: Day like this. So how many Thursday night games have 646 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 7: you guys had this year? This is a third? 647 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 2: Three? 648 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 3: Is crazy? 649 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 7: Bro? How do I feel about playing on Christmas Day 650 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 7: and we had Thanksgiving? I really I'm not a fan. 651 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 7: We got they the two biggest holidays. I feel like 652 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 7: in the United States we played on both of them, 653 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 7: and I don't have kids yet, Like, if I had kids, 654 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 7: I'd be even more pissed, Like you can't really spend 655 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 7: it with your family. Get this year, you know, your 656 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 7: kids open gifts. I feel like that's something that a 657 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 7: lot of parents, you know, love to see and can't 658 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 7: wait for. 659 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 3: So I don't even like it. 660 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 7: I'm not even to father yet, so I can't imagine 661 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 7: what you know, dads and our teams are feeling, like. 662 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 1: Well, Hugh, you've I'm sure you missed a lot of Christmases. Yeah, 663 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: but I mean it doesn't really matter if you're playing 664 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: on Christmas or if you're on the road during Christmas. 665 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: I mean, if a Monroe had a game on the 666 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: twenty sixth on the road, he'd still miss Christmas. 667 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 2: He just happened to be playing on Christmas. 668 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:12,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. 669 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 3: I think his point is that that, hey, wait a minute, 670 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 3: you already have us miss Thanksgiving right every year, you know, 671 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 3: to make us play on Christmas Day. 672 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: You know. 673 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 3: I think he's got a fair point. But I also 674 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,720 Speaker 3: I also say, well, that's the cost of doing business 675 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 3: to being a professional athlete. You paid a lot, and 676 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 3: you know you have to just accept the decisions of 677 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 3: the league. What's best for the league, and they thought 678 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 3: there was a you know, Christmas Day. It wasn't. But 679 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 3: a few years ago the NFL thought that that was 680 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 3: sacrileged to playing Christmas plan Christmas. But then they looked 681 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,879 Speaker 3: at the NBA and they just kind of said, wait 682 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 3: a minute, Yeah, you know, that looks like there's some 683 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 3: eyeballs worth grabbing. And in year one, look it up, 684 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 3: they ten xt the NBA. The NBA was averaging about 685 00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 3: two and a half million. They went over twenty five 686 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 3: millionaire year one, and and you know, Lebron James is 687 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 3: all ticked off, and and you know what, they just 688 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 3: acted like a capitalist predator they did. 689 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: Now these now you got to miss these three Christmas 690 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: games were brutal. 691 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's kind of beside brudet And and 692 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 3: you know they're chasing you off on you know, was 693 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 3: it Netflix. 694 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,760 Speaker 2: And Amazon Prime? 695 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, when one was on Prime, the night one was 696 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: on Prime, the one before that was on Netflix. 697 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then haven't they had one on Paramount? Possibly 698 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 3: I think there was a game that I was chasing 699 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 3: on Paramount or something. But but but any event, uh, yeah, 700 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 3: I think at this juncture they do whatever the hell 701 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 3: they want. 702 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 2: That's right. That's right, we got time for one more. 703 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 2: Hey here, do you hear that? 704 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 3: What's that? 705 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: During the Military Bowl on Saturday between pittan East Carolina, 706 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: there appeared to be a sixty eight yard touchdown run 707 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: by EC running back Marlin Gunn. However, a few moments later, 708 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,959 Speaker 1: head referee Luke Richmond wiped the play off the board. 709 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 8: Die it goes under center for the first time today. 710 00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 8: Pitch right, gun gets there first down. He see you 711 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 8: spinning three steal on his feet. Norland Goodjr. It's gone 712 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 8: sixty yard touchdown bat the Invernent whistle. 713 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 2: A runner got the line to game balt me spotted 714 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 2: at where the whistle was blown. 715 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 3: Carolina. 716 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 8: Oh my, oh my, an in inverting whistle is gonna 717 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 8: wave this touchdown off. 718 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, got the line to gain. 719 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,439 Speaker 1: But sorry, you don't get the touchdown because I blew 720 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: my whistle too early. 721 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 4: Do you see the little note that I had in 722 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 4: there about more context? 723 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:36,879 Speaker 2: Yes? 724 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: So two plays later, Hugh Pitt got a scoop and 725 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: score fumble recovery for a touchdown. So not only did 726 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,919 Speaker 1: East Carolina not get the touchdown, two plays later Pitt 727 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: got a touchdown to take a fourteen dead lead. But 728 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 1: all's well, that ends well boys. East Carolina ended up 729 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: winning the game twenty three to seventeen. Oh man, have 730 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: you ever seen you? Have you ever seen an inverted 731 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: whistle wipe out a touch. 732 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 3: And maybe not a touchdown, not a long touchdown, it 733 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 3: was was there contact where the official might have thought 734 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 3: that a knee was down? Or did he just the. 735 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 4: Running back goes around the right corner and turns up field. 736 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 4: What's interesting about that? And I can play it again 737 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 4: if you want, But there's no whistle on the they 738 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 4: have mics on them. 739 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 2: You can't hear a whist. 740 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 4: You can't hear a whistle on the field, which led people, 741 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 4: lots of people on the internet to say that the 742 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 4: referee made up the whistle. 743 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 3: This is totally rigged. They win. 744 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 4: It became a massive controversy. 745 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 3: Over the weekend. My question is was there anything that 746 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 3: would appear to be like a reason that he or 747 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 3: he ran out of bounds or or was it just 748 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 3: he was just running scot free, untouched nobody around him, 749 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 3: right to the end zone and somebody blew a whistle 750 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 3: for even close to an apparent reason. 751 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 4: When the running back turns the corner. He steps about 752 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 4: a foot from the from the from the line the sideline, 753 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 4: but he doesn't come probably within a foot of the sideline. 754 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 2: So I don't know that's brutal. That's really East Carolina one. 755 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: All right, four o'clock Now we're coming up Mike McDonald's 756 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: press conference at four point thirty. We're gonna find out 757 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 1: what is going on in ann Arbor, Michigan with their 758 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: new head coach, uh, the ageless wonder Kyle Winningham. Everard 759 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: Fitzgherwill joined US six fifteen, getting a set for cracking 760 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 1: hockey at seven On ninety three point three kJ raup