1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: It's not sure. Yeah, now he's not going to be 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: MVD Boyd, Saron, your Lakers got Annihilators night. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 2: By the way, I'm sorry. 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: It's the Ernst The ESPN fifteen thirty Ernston Associate's Final 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Four Show, presented by Dui Matt dot Comer, broadcasting from 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: the Airport Pain and Body Broadcast Area from here in Indianapolis. 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: Also sponsored by Liberty Mutual Insurance. Liberty Mutual customizes your 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: auto and home insurance so you only pay for what 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: you need. We chat it with Jared Calhoun earlier. Jake Diebler, 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: the head coach at Ohio State, is going to stop 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: by a little bit after four o'clock. Jason Horowitz is 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: the Leeds studio anchor and host for Westwood Ones coverage 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: of college basketball, and so you'll hear him prominently this 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: weekend if you listen to any of the Final four 15 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: radio broadcasts on Fox Sports thirteen sixty. I'm just glad 16 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: we were able to finally find a broadcaster from Syracuse. 17 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: I haven't been back to Syracuse though in eighteen years. 18 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: So let's see what year is this? Twenty six? 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 3: Might be fifteen, okay, so that might be more rare. Though, 20 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 3: if that makes you feel a little bit better. 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: Moment I work with Dan Horde. Yeah right, he goes 22 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: he's gone back, goes back. 23 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: It's honored, and I like, I have to see that 24 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: the text from all the Syracuse guys, so like I 25 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: hear about New House and series. 26 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: The text chain though with Dan. 27 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: Dan's a little bit older than I am, but you 28 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 3: and I are both on the NFL. Where's a We 29 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: have a text chain with a thirty two NFL play 30 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 3: by play announcers that all share a text chain together. 31 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: So that's where I usually get a text from Dan 32 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: every now and then. I might want to look at 33 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: on that. 34 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: Yeah you want to pardon it? Yeah, it's awesome. I 35 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: appreciate you doing this. What's final four weekend? Like from uside? 36 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: For the uh you know that the on air part? 37 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, we get here a little bit earlier than 38 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 3: everyone else because on Thursday we do our interviews with 39 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: all the players and coaches that that airs on Saturday, 40 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: and so we spend most of Thursday talking to the 41 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 3: starters for all the teams and the bench player here 42 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: or there are doing some features this morning on Friday, 43 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: we're doing a feature that's gonna aired to Martyr in 44 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: the pregame show, But I went and had a conversation 45 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: with Bobby Plump, who's the real life basis of the 46 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 3: movie Hoosiers Jimmy Chitwood. He's the real guy and he's 47 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: got a sports bar here in Indianapolis called Plump Slash Shot. 48 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun. 49 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 3: He's almost ninety, his recall is unbelievable, his storytelling is 50 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: so cool. And since Brayln Mullins for Yukon is an 51 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: Indiana kid who hit the shot to bring his team 52 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 3: back to Indianapolis, we started the conversation by talking about 53 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: what's it like to hit a shot that no one 54 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: will ever forget? 55 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: And it was awesome. We had a great time. That's 56 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: pretty cool. 57 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: Awesome all right, So you have that the matchups themselves. 58 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: What do you look forward to sing unfold tomorrow night. Well, 59 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: let's start with the second game. I hope that Arizona 60 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: Michigan lives up to the hype. You know, from a 61 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: numbers standpoint, from a statistical standpoint, from where they've been 62 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: all year, it feels like one of the greatest Final 63 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: Four games. 64 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: Ever, or it could be. 65 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 3: I hope it lives up to that where they're both 66 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 3: back and forth, nobody leads by more than six points 67 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 3: either way. You know, maybe twenty lead changes, great shot 68 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,399 Speaker 3: making to win it, that type of thing, and then, 69 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 3: you know, like any other game, you just hope both 70 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 3: games are really good and and Illinois has an opportunity 71 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 3: with Yukon that feels like it could be a really 72 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 3: good game. Obviously, Yukon's got some magic right now, and 73 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 3: Illinois's got this. I've got this European flair, and they 74 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: all the guys talking to them yesterday, they know it, 75 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: they feel it, they like each other, they're they're completely 76 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 3: embracing the aspect of European basketball in the United States 77 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 3: and what Mars Madden is maybe they didn't know about 78 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: it but now really appreciate it. But also, like I 79 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 3: think they have this perspective that people in the United 80 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 3: States think that European basketball soft and they are very 81 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: much not that, and they're trying to live that too. 82 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: I think you have four interesting types of coaches, And 83 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: I like Dan Hurley. 84 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 2: Dan Hurley's a Bengals fan, so I like that. 85 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: He is a diehard, but he's been the ruler of 86 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: the Jungle he's called our show. 87 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: So I'm a Dan Hurley. He and Dan Horde text 88 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: each other too. 89 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: It's funny you say that. So at a tournament site 90 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: years ago, Hurley's coaching Rhode Island and like walks up 91 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: to Dan and he's asking about like draft possibilities and 92 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: Dan's like. 93 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: What what what? Team? 94 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so the Bengals made him ruler of the Jungle. 95 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: We reached out to you KONK. Dan Hurley came on 96 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: and he's like talking about the team. He's a diehard fan, 97 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: but he's got this huge personality. I do think this 98 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: weekend is going to be interesting just to see what 99 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: the nation learns about Brad Underwood, just lifeer, absolute grinder, 100 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: Tommy Lloyd, who's now long term in Arizona, and then 101 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: obviously Dusty May as well, who the country got familiar. 102 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: With a couple of years ago. 103 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 3: And Dusty's a really likable, caring team you know. Even 104 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 3: if Michigan is I grew up in Michigan, Michigan. My 105 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: brother went to Michigan State, but I grew up a 106 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: family of Michigan fans, so it was like a mixture 107 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: I fully grasped by. Michigan is a not a likable 108 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 3: figure among schools in the Big ten all over there, 109 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 3: and I get that, and particularly how you know, Jim 110 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 3: Harbaugh kind of added that to that a little bit 111 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: the last few years before he went to the Chargers. 112 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: But like he's a likable figure. 113 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 3: Yaxil Lendeboorg is a really likable figure, and his story 114 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 3: has been told a lot, but I'm sure still people 115 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 3: are and used to it. You know, a kid that 116 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: was really struggling with grades, his mom helped change his life. 117 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 3: He went to JUCO during COVID for a couple of years, 118 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: UAB could have gone anywhere, took less money to go 119 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: to Michigan because he and Yaxtell told me yesterday we 120 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: were having this conversation when he was at UAB playing 121 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: FAU the year after FAU. 122 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 2: Was at the Final four. 123 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,679 Speaker 3: Remember Dusty stay for one where he's like, I asked 124 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: my teammates would it be. 125 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: Wrong to ask if I could take a picture with 126 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 2: Dusty May? 127 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: And we had it, and I'm so we talked about 128 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 3: like is real life Dusty May playing for him better 129 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 3: or worse or different? And it was really cool conversation 130 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 3: that'll be part of our broadcast tomorrow. He's a likable figure, 131 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: you know, and I and I think that's really enjoyable, 132 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 3: whereas like the one figure in all of this that's 133 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: not is Dan Hurley, and you're talking about that, and 134 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 3: Alex Carabin was telling me yesterday he's kind of a 135 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: misunderstood figure. He's like, I'm very much Dan Hurley, so 136 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 3: I appreciate him. I'm just a lot more introverted. 137 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 4: I'm like, you don't say, you know, I've watched Dan 138 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 4: Hurley and Mick cron and coach against each other, so 139 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 4: we got a chance to see that earlier in this tournament. 140 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: I want to know who's the most entertaining. 141 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: Play by play guy on the NFL play by play 142 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: guy threat? 143 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 3: You mean from a text chain or like Mike in 144 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: real life? Yes, oh god, I have to go back 145 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 3: and think about it. You know, I don't know that 146 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: any There's a lot, you know, what's interesting, there's a 147 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 3: lot of showing pictures of booths, and whoever is playing 148 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: the Dolphins that week is complaining it because the Dolphins 149 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: booth not only is in the corner with a closed 150 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: window that you can't open. Anyone who's ever been your 151 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 3: listeners may not know this, but like, you want to 152 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 3: have the booth open so you can experience the stadium 153 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: and feel what it's like. And the Dolphins booth doesn't open, 154 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 3: and you're in the corner. But not only you're in 155 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: the corner, you're in the corner opposite TV. So you 156 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,119 Speaker 3: have to change your mindset about the direction it's going 157 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: based off of what you're seeing on your monitor when 158 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 3: they're showing replays and stuff, which is interesting. So whoever's 159 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 3: playing the Dolphins is usually complaining. But what's really weird 160 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: to me is that the Dolphins guy's never complained and 161 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: they're doing it nine times a year. 162 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 2: Brad Sham is vocal voice of the Cowboys. 163 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 3: He's always on there a lot, Western on the Voice 164 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 3: of the Welkins is usually talking a lot. There's a 165 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 3: lot of really good dudes who are really big in 166 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 3: the industry too. Ye. 167 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate you doing this, man, Yeah, absolutely appreciate it. 168 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 2: Thanks well. 169 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: Jason Horowitz is the Westwood One pregame, post game and 170 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: halftime host for coverage of college basketball, obviously including the 171 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: Final Four this weekend, and you could hear those games 172 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: tomorrow and on Monday next Door on Fox Sports thirteen sixty. 173 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: When I say next door, I mean next door from 174 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: the studio that we are normally and by the way, 175 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: we do this every single year on the Monday of 176 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: the National Championship game, broadcasting from Twin Peaks. You know, 177 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: Twin Peaks is back for the upcoming season, the home 178 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: of the Tony and Mo Football Show, and we're there 179 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: every Monday during the football season. But I need like 180 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: a Twin Peaks fix, and so we'll be there on Monday, 181 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: the Westchester location from A three to six doing our show. 182 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,239 Speaker 1: I just at some point, I'm just going to decide 183 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: to never do the show in studio. So here in 184 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: Indye the last couple of days Twin Peaks on Monday, 185 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: looking forward to it. Let's see, we're here till six o'clock. 186 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: It's Radio row at the Final Four. A number of 187 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: coaches making the rounds yesterday and today. One of them 188 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: is Jake Diebler, the head coach at Ohio State. The 189 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: Buckeyes made the tournament this year. Gonna say goodbye to 190 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: Bruce thorretton this offseason. We'll talk with Jake about how 191 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: he plans to move on without the program's all time 192 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: leading score we'll have that conversation when we come back. 193 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: It's coming up on four o'clock. My name is Maegar. 194 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 195 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: We're protecting your identity.