1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Every Republican who has gone on TV the last twelve 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: hours or so has called this the Schumer shutdown. What 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: do you say about that name? Center of Schumer? 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 2: Can you hear me? I can't hear Center of Schumer? 5 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 2: Can you hear me? 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: I don't think Senator of Schumer can hear me? 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 2: Right now? 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: Maybe the government shutdown included audio on Capitol Hill? 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 3: What are you doing? 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 4: Democrats? That was for CNN. 11 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 3: Pretty much personifies what's taking place right now with the 12 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 3: Schumer shutdown. 13 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 4: Schumer's not doing so great, and I'm here for it. 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 4: I'm here for you. 15 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 3: Twenna City's News Talk Am eleven thirty one oh three 16 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: five FM from the six' five to one Carpet Next 17 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 3: Day Install. 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 4: Studios my name Is John justice. 19 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 3: Next door and the master control booth Is devin And 20 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 3: i'm glad that you are with the show this. Morning 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: so we've Got Devid Gartenstein. Ross he'll be joining us 22 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 3: with SOME ai talk coming up at six point. Thirty 23 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 3: we will introduce you To Killy. Norwood Tilly norwood is 24 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: the next Great hollywood, actress but she doesn't. Exist, yes that's, 25 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 3: right she's AN ai. Actress that's causing quite the controversy In, 26 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 3: hollywood plus ANY ai related questions that you might have For. 27 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 3: David you can get those in via the talkback on 28 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 3: the iheartar radio. App we have Some Keith ellison talked 29 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: to get to next. Hour he's very upset about the, 30 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 3: shutdown and he's getting a lot of help from our 31 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: local media in the way that they are framing the 32 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: articles surrounding are. Illustrious Attorney. General since the Sarcasm Maxwell 33 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 3: house is getting a name, change we'll talk about how 34 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 3: ridiculous that. 35 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 4: IS i made a. Prediction it was not a hard 36 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 4: prediction to. 37 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: Make needless to, Say i'm accurate once again because there 38 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 3: was a protest that took place in front of the 39 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 3: potential reopening of an ice facility here In. Minnesota also 40 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 3: in the eight o'clock, hour we'll continue to talk about 41 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: the political, theater that is the walls in THE, dfl 42 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 3: the walls that's funny walls in DFL's attempt to make 43 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: THE gop the bad guys relating to a special. 44 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 4: Session and also this is a back and forth. 45 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 3: Going on right now between The Mounds View Mayor moron 46 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 3: and The Minnesota Gun Owners. CAUCUS i have some audio 47 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: from friend of the show from The Minnesota Gun Owners 48 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 3: Caucus Rob door To share coming up at eight. O'clock 49 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: you definitely do not want to miss. That and also 50 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: an interesting documentary that'll be debuting this evening ACROSS abc 51 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: on station's a precarious. State it almost looking at watching the, 52 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: trailer and i'll play the audio for you a little 53 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 3: bit later. On we're going to have THE i believe 54 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 3: he's the, director but he's the, individual the face and 55 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: the name behind the. Documentary rick cupceell is going to 56 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 3: be joining me in studio at eight thirty this morning 57 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 3: to talk about the, documentary, which AS i watched the 58 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: trailer and read the, description it really kind of sounds 59 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: like a sequel to The fall Of, minneapolis wherein The 60 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: fall Of minneapolis certainly chronicled everything that transpired around the 61 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: death Of George. Floyd this seems to be really focusing 62 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: on the, aftermath relating to the riots and how the 63 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: city Of minneapolis just simply hasn't. Recovered there was another 64 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: fantastic documentary and it came, OUT i don't, know maybe 65 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: five years, ago if not, more Called seattle Is dying 66 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: much along the same, lines and So i'm looking forward 67 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 3: to Having Rick cupchella join us in. Studio let's go 68 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: right to The iHeartRadio app, though as we get the 69 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: show rolling this morning for A, thursday your talkback's brought to, 70 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: you of course By Lindahl. 71 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 5: Realty Hakeem jeffries and his tax have Spent. Democrats they've 72 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 5: been painting a picture in our minds for years Of 73 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 5: trump with An Adolf hitler mustache and a swasticker. Armband 74 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 5: so he can't take a joke with a sombrero on 75 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 5: his head from THAT ai. Video he's such a hypocrite 76 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 5: that he's undermining his own credibility by being so. 77 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: Hypocritical, yeah the entire sombrero meme right now is giving 78 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: me entirely too much entertainment. Value right, Now i'm having 79 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 3: too much fun watching. This i've been reposting some video this. 80 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: Morning So Vice PRESIDENT. Jd vance did give his word 81 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 3: yesterday that the memes mocking The house And Senate minority 82 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 3: leaders would stop If jeffries would help end the ongoing government. 83 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: Shutdown so the memes began with one video posted On 84 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 3: trump's x account and truth social and it Showed Hakeem 85 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: jeffries wearing a sombrero that was super imposed on his 86 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: head along with a. Mustache here's What, jdvans Our Vice, 87 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 3: president had to say yesterday regarding. 88 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: This, okay go and ask the second. 89 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 6: Question so The president's been posting some images Of Leader 90 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 6: jeffries And Senator schumer. Lately you've said that you're interested 91 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 6: in good faith negotiations with these, leaders but you know 92 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 6: what messages That's and is it helpful to post pictures 93 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 6: of leaders Of jeffries and is From brero if you're 94 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 6: trying to have good paid talks with? 95 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 2: Him, OH i think it's. 96 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 7: Funny The president's joking and we're having a good. Time 97 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 7: you can negotiate in good faith while also poking a 98 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 7: little bit of fun at some of the ob of 99 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 7: The democrats', positions and even you, know poking some fun 100 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 7: at the absurdity of The democrats. Themselves And i'll Tell 101 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 7: Hakeem jeffries right, NOW i make this solemn promise to 102 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 7: you that if you help us reopen the, government the 103 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 7: sombrero memes will. Stop AND i talked to The president 104 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 7: of The United states about. 105 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: That the sombrero memes will continue as long as the 106 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 3: shutdown does. Well, again what world are we living in right? 107 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: Now there was another vote. Yesterday it was. Rejected i'll 108 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 3: give you details on. That we have some more audio 109 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,799 Speaker 3: to share FROM. Jd vans And Caroline levitt from. Yesterday 110 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: and this is not going well For. DEMOCRATS i, mean 111 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 3: they've Lost The Washington post is their editorial board is 112 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 3: warning the shutdown is Favoring, trump just like we said 113 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: that it was going. To and there's a very specific 114 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 3: reason for. THAT i will dive into that next and 115 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 3: we'll get to more of your comments from The iHeartRadio 116 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: app as we get rolling on A thursday morning here 117 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 3: On Twin City's News Talk am eleven thirty and one 118 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 3: oh three FIVE Fm. 119 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 8: Morning AND i love your. 120 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 2: Show you, KNOW i thought THAT. 121 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 3: I thought The Coffee day was Like. Monday Apparently International 122 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: Coffee day was. YESTERDAY i guess that makes more sense 123 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 3: BECAUSE i was confused BECAUSE i thought there was like 124 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 3: A United States Coffee day and An International Coffee, day 125 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: to WHICH i was wondering why there was, two but 126 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: apparently there only is. ONE i was thinking about this, because, well, 127 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 3: one the machine is broken in the. Breakroom not that 128 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: it matters because the coffee here, sucks but there. 129 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 4: Was a listener that. 130 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: POSTED i posted on x At John, Justice jon and 131 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 3: a photo just a little comment less than ideal day 132 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: after A National Coffee, Day, right seems, Appropriate but there's 133 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 3: an error code attached to. It and a friend of 134 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: the show went and actually looked up the aer code 135 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: to provide a solution to how to fix the coffee. 136 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: Machine SO i thank you for. That, again not that it, 137 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: matters because the coffee here is. AWFUL i need to 138 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: change up my coffee. Game for far too LONG i 139 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: have Treated i've had sort of a utilitarian attitude towards, coffee. 140 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 4: Just treating it more. 141 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: Function but for as much coffee AS i, CONSUME i 142 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: really need. 143 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 4: To drink better. 144 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: COFFEE i get the feeling that IF i have a 145 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 3: good cup of, COFFEE i can definitely tell the difference 146 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 3: between that WHICH i get here or WHAT i make at. 147 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 4: Home you know, WHAT i, KNOW i deserve. It you're 148 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 4: fascinating to talk. 149 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 3: From the six' five to one Carpet Plus Next Day, 150 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 3: Install Studios Twin Cities. 151 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 4: News talk my Name Is. 152 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: John Justice the senate once again rejected the continuing resolution 153 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 3: to keep the, government funded and having failed both, votes 154 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 3: yesterday no end inside. On this here's a little bit 155 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: more of. What jd vance had to say yesterday regarding, 156 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 3: the Shutdown the shoomer, shut down whatever you want to. 157 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 7: Call it democrats say that they care a lot about 158 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 7: lowering health, care costs and yet When the president took 159 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 7: his storic action to work with the drug companies to 160 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 7: lower prescription, drug Prices the democrats did nothing to. Help us, 161 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 7: in fact we would have loved to Have the democrats, 162 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 7: helping us but. They didn't they talk about, doing something 163 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 7: they don't actually do the hard work of making. It 164 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 7: happen what they have done instead is to shut down 165 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 7: the government because we won't give billions of dollars to 166 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 7: health care funding for. 167 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 2: Illegal aliens that is what has actually. 168 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 7: Happened To the american people who. Are watching the reason 169 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 7: your government is shut down at this very minute is 170 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 7: because despite the fact that the overwhelming majority Of congressional 171 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 7: republicans and even a Few moderate democrats supported opening, the 172 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 7: Government The, CHUCK schumer aoc wing Of The, democratic party 173 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 7: shut down the government because they said, to us we 174 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 7: will open, the government but only if you give billions 175 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 7: of dollars of funding for health care for. Illegal aliens 176 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 7: that's a. Ridiculous proposition let me say two other, quick 177 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 7: things and Then again i'll take. Some questions, number one 178 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 7: we all Understand that Democrats and republicans have. Policy Disagreements 179 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 7: their democrats want to. Do things Look When chuck schumer 180 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 7: And A keem jeffreys were in here a couple of, 181 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 7: days ago they made some suggestions That the president was 182 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 7: more than happy, To, say yes let's sit down and 183 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 7: talk about how we can solve the healthcare crisis that 184 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 7: we inherited From the. Biden administration but it's one thing 185 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 7: to say that we should solve the healthcare Crisis. For 186 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 7: americans it's another thing to say that we're going to 187 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 7: shut down the government unless we Give the democrats every 188 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 7: single thing that, they, want Which as, caroline says includes 189 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 7: giving billions of dollars a tax payer funding for health 190 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 7: care for. Illegal migrants. That's ridiculous you don't have policy 191 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 7: disagreements that serve as the basis for a government. Shut 192 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 7: down let's have the conversation about how To fix american, 193 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 7: health care about how to make health care. More accessible 194 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 7: As the president showed he's more than willing to act 195 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 7: on behalf Of the american people for this. Very reason 196 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 7: what you don't do is say unless you do exactly 197 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 7: what we want, to do Is, congressional democrats we're taking 198 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 7: hostage and said it turns out is critical essential services 199 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 7: That the american. People need caroline talked about some. Of 200 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 7: it let me talk about. Some more our troops are not. 201 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 9: Getting paid thank goodness THAT the Gop and republicans in 202 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 9: this country are standing up To the democrats and not. 203 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 9: Backing down we're having some fun and exposing the ridiculousness 204 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 9: and the stupidity Of the democrats. 205 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 10: That want power, and money and now we're standing up 206 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 10: For the. American people keep, MOVING, Forward gop you're doing a. 207 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 10: Great job don't Let these democrats Intimidate. 208 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 9: To. 209 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 11: Hey John brandnacottage grove just want TO say Jd and 210 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 11: trump are. ABSOLUTELY hilarious i had the honor OF meeting 211 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 11: jd for a couple of DAYS when i took over 212 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 11: his Position in iraq and his spot on a class 213 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 11: act all. 214 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 12: THE way. 215 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 11: I just. LOVE it i hope they keep going. WITH 216 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 11: everything i hope they can making fun of these weird 217 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 11: people on. The left have a. 218 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 4: Great DAY what i like ABOUT. 219 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 3: What jd vance is doing right now ahead of twenty, 220 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 3: twenty eight is that he really is establishing himself as his, 221 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 3: own person his own. Unique personality but it's no less 222 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 3: interesting or Compelling Than President donald trump. Is now there's 223 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 3: going to be and there's plenty of time to talk 224 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 3: about this in the years, To come but there's going 225 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 3: to be an attachment to and an extension of the 226 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 3: continued criticism and Opposition to TRUMP. That jd vance will 227 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 3: face assuming that he runs in twenty. Twenty EIGHT but 228 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: i like the fact that he's establishing himself now as 229 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 3: his own person but still continuing that trend Of what 230 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 3: trump has forged. 231 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 4: Before. 232 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 3: Him Now The washington post not kind to What the 233 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: democrats are doing. Right now Even The washington post editorial 234 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 3: board is warning That the democrats shut Down. Favors Trump 235 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 3: the post explained it. This way progressive embraced the same 236 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 3: disastrous mentality that Led The House freedom caucus to believe 237 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 3: it could come out ahead in previous government. Funding standoffs 238 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 3: they wrongly assumed their political leverage would withstand the. Ensuing 239 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 3: fallout Left, wing democrats Like the freedom caucas, Before them, 240 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 3: they write enter this shut down in a position. Of 241 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 3: Weakness President donald trump And his Budget Director russell vatt 242 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 3: now have extraordinary authority to choose which agencies, to close 243 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 3: what spending, to prioritize and even which government workers to. 244 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 3: LAY off i mentioned this yesterday on the show. And 245 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 3: listen because Of the democrats' intentions being nefarious as opposed 246 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 3: to being honest lacking, common sense it should be no 247 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 3: surprise whatsoever that their narrative efforts are failing. Right now to, 248 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 3: THAT point I Think hakeem jeffries regret it GOING on 249 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 3: cnn Yesterday When, jake tapper of, all people ended up. 250 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 4: Embarrassing Him donald trump blessed it. As well so let 251 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 4: me ask. 252 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 8: You about a provision That the republicans are talking about quite. 253 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: A bit i know you want to talk About. 254 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 8: And democrats want to talk about Extending the obamacare subsidies 255 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 8: which expire at the end of twenty. Twenty five but 256 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 8: they talk about the provisions and it's, Right HERE. Subtitle 257 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 8: e and this has to do with the repeal of 258 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 8: healthcare subtitle. 259 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 4: Changes and specifically what. 260 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 8: It is how they characterized characterize it as you want 261 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 8: to give health insurance to. UNDOCUMENTED immigrants i understand that's 262 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 8: not really an. Accurate depiction but what it does do 263 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 8: is it's. 264 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: A lie it's. 265 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 8: A lie but what you support does bring back funding 266 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 8: for emergency medicaid, to hospitals some of which does for 267 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 8: undocumented immigrants and people who don't have. 268 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: Health insurance and also there. 269 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 8: Is this provision and it's not about, undocumented immigrants it's 270 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 8: about people with asylum seekers and people with temporary, protected status, 271 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 8: et cetera, et cetera but about their ability to. Get 272 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 8: medicaid so they're, non citizens they're, not undocumented they're. Not 273 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 8: illegal why even include that in a bill knowing that 274 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 8: they're going to seize right upon that and use that's 275 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 8: A message i understand. 276 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 4: That exactly. 277 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: If it's not doing the thing that you said that 278 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: it's going, to do why not just go ahead and. 279 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 4: Remove it then. 280 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 3: This is What the democrats don't understand or, do understand 281 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 3: and simply. 282 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 4: Don't care. 283 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: I'll keep. 284 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: Saying it they've dug their heels in so deep to 285 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 3: oppose Anything That donald trump And the, republicans propose that 286 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 3: this is where. They've landed they will not give, an 287 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 3: inch even Over rational commons policy or the removal of 288 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 3: such that is actually supported by a Majority, of americans 289 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 3: and HOW do i? Know that all you have to 290 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 3: do is look at the election results going. 291 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 4: On almost a. 292 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: Year ago, all right, coming up leave us a talk 293 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 3: back if you have any artificial intelligence related questions, to 294 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 3: ask we'll switch things up. A bit axios has an 295 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: interesting piece that we haven't had a chance to talk 296 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 3: About with David Garten, stein ross why you SHOULD be, 297 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 3: Ai obsessed and then we're going to get into THE 298 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 3: big ai news story, This week hollywood actors and the 299 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: Unions in hollywood SLAMMING an ai synthetic performer pitched as 300 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: The Next. Scarlett johansen we'll talk about This with David 301 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 3: Garten stein ross next right Here On Twin City's NEWS 302 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 3: talk am eleven thirty and one h THREE. Five Fm 303 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 3: Twin City's news talk from the six' five, To One 304 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 3: Carpet Next. 305 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 4: Day install studios My Name. 306 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 3: Is john justice glad you're with the. Show this morning 307 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: axios has a piece out from a week. 308 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 4: Or so ago It's In My David. 309 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 3: Gartenstein ross stack several readers have asked us WHY we're 310 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 3: so ai obsessed in our columns and business Planning. Right to, 311 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 3: axios our response imagine knowing Electricity. Or the internet we're 312 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 3: coming before fully and holly, up ended it fully and 313 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 3: wholly upended business. 314 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 4: Culture and LIFE that's the ai. 315 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 3: Moment we, see unfolding today and it's part of the 316 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 3: reason Why We have David gartenstein ross on as frequently, 317 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 3: as WE do The Ceo of expert THEORY and, our 318 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 3: ai analyst to. Discuss these matters and he joins us once, 319 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 3: Again This, Morning gornon devid how we? 320 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 2: Doing? 321 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 13: Doing great john it's always a GOOD morning when i 322 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 13: get to join you and your audience Getting to. 323 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 3: This axios Piece and again i've had this in the 324 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 3: stack of prep for you, for a while which, Is 325 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 3: growing tall like we're going to need to do like 326 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 3: A five hour ted talk. 327 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 4: And just go through all THIS material that i haven't 328 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 4: been able. 329 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 3: To cover yet, but THEY write every ai company an 330 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 3: investor has a massive incentive to hype THE most, glorious 331 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 3: ai case and so the technology might never live up. 332 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 4: To its promise but this next line. Made me laugh but. 333 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 3: This WOULD require Every ceo of america's the seven biggest 334 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 3: companies to be collectively delusional about where they are spending trillions. 335 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 3: IN combined capital i have a. Question regarding THAT but 336 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 3: before i, get to that do you have any sort 337 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 3: of instinctive reactions to the beginning Of the z axios 338 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: piece sort of explaining why THEY'VE been covering ai as 339 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 3: much as. 340 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 13: THEY have been i agree WITH them covering ai as 341 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 13: much as. THEY have been i wonder about THE statement 342 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 13: that ai may never live up. 343 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: To its, HYPE to, me i mean it hasn't it 344 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 2: already to. 345 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 13: Be on it and we're going TO talk about ai 346 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 13: that's able to, replicate an actress where other actors you 347 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 13: cannot really TELL that it's ai until, they are told 348 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 13: and where major studios in Or unions in hollywood are 349 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 13: freaked out that this is going to cost. HUMAN beings, 350 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 13: jobs i mean anybody who's chatted with an online chat 351 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 13: but's sure it'll, make some mistakes. There's some lmsms, but 352 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 13: you know in twenty twenty two or early, twenty twenty 353 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 13: three did you think that a computer could be this 354 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 13: responsive to any conversation you wanted to have. Under the, 355 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 13: sun to me what WE have an, ai even today 356 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 13: and it IS the worst ai is ever going to 357 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 13: be in our lifetimes compared to every other day, in 358 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 13: the future is absolutely mind blowing, and to me it 359 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 13: has met all of the hype that we HAVE. 360 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: Intended, for ai? 361 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 3: Well WHAT'S interesting and i have this question attached to 362 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 3: The Story, of tilly norwood which we'll get into here 363 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 3: in just. A few minutes THIS is the. Ai generated 364 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 3: actress but let ME see if i can. Formulate this, 365 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 3: succinctly in short there seems to be in tandem THIS 366 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 3: development and ai and it being utilized by. These, MAJOR 367 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 3: corporations well i mean, corporations in general not. Just major 368 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 3: corporations it seems like every business IS. Somehow utilizing ai 369 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 3: and then you have the public, awareness of it wherein, 370 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 3: the technology arrives it gets used in these trendy ways, 371 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: by the public but then it. Immediately drops off so 372 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 3: like all these videos that were BEING, created via, ai 373 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 3: you know over the course of the past month or 374 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 3: so during our conversations and what we were talking about, 375 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 3: a month ago like people are already got kind of 376 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 3: bored with it and. 377 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 4: They've moved on but that DOESN'T mean that ai. 378 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 3: STILL isn't DEVELOPING i just i find those two things 379 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 3: together in. 380 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 4: Tandem, RATHER interesting. 381 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 13: Yeah i think it speaks to the fact that we 382 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 13: have short attention spans, as human beings, and you know 383 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 13: we are impressed for a few. 384 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: Minutes and then. 385 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 13: We lose focus this ties in with SOMETHING you and 386 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 13: i have talked about a, number of times which is 387 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 13: SOMETIMES we'll use ai poorly or only, scratch the surface 388 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 13: and then we'll run out of. Attention for it that 389 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 13: doesn't mean it's, not mind blowing right the videos that 390 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 13: you talked about where people were able to create short 391 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 13: videos that, look very, cinematic really, impressive but like what's 392 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 13: the utility once, everyone's doing it it's not. ALL that 393 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 13: interesting i compare it to anything else, we, do online, 394 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 13: TikTok YouTube. SHORTS et, cetera i mean if you've had 395 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 13: people experimenting with it and a wave, of interest coming 396 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 13: then TikTok would be. Worth nothing today it wouldn't be 397 00:21:55,400 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 13: the addictive and culture changing and culture defining andoics defining 398 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 13: institution that it. 399 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: IN fact is i WOULD look. At ai similarly it's. 400 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 3: Interesting to me because there appears to be a CORRELATION 401 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 3: with what i was just mentioning in what you, were 402 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 3: talking about and also the fact that in, its initial 403 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: arrival when the public became FULLY aware of ai and 404 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 3: it was here and the concerns that immediately erupted. OVER 405 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 3: job loss i was just seeing another. ARTICLE this morning 406 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 3: i didn't pull it because we've talked about, it so 407 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 3: Often but now i'm. Discussing it anyway but it was 408 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 3: Basically saying what, i'm saying now and that is the 409 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 3: doom talk of people LOSING job surrounding ai just hasn't. 410 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 3: Come to fruition it, seems as if much like so, 411 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 3: many emerging technologies, wherein, people think well this is going to. Have, 412 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 3: devastating effects no it turns out that this is now 413 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 3: currently being utilized in ways to go and enhance existing. 414 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 4: Businesses and services. 415 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 3: Doesn't necessarily mean that people are going to end up 416 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,239 Speaker 3: losing jobs because it. Hasn't, HAPPENED yet, YEAH i mean 417 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 3: i think it has an impact on a certain, class 418 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 3: of jobs and this is WORTH acknowledge because i think 419 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 3: it already is. Reshaping, job markets observationally it seems like 420 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 3: entry level jobs are becoming fewer and fewer BECAUSE of 421 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 3: what ai enables. 422 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: People to do and this leads. 423 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 13: To one, Thing and look i'll say that our hiring 424 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 13: practices are already, based around this AND from what, i 425 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 13: can see this is the case for a. Lot of 426 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 13: companies for anyone coming, into our company we expect that 427 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 13: they're going to be familiar with HOW to use ai to, 428 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 13: enhance their productivity and if they're, not fully familiar that 429 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 13: they're able to pick up best. Practices relatively quickly, in 430 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 13: other words we see facility with large language models as 431 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 13: just a basic part of what we're looking for. 432 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 2: IN hiring somebody. 433 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 13: I do think that there is an impact, on JOB 434 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 13: markets and i think that the impact is subtle enough 435 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 13: that it's not being felt, in mass numbers but it's 436 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 13: influencing the shape of job markets in a, way that 437 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 13: again people need to. Be familiar with and THIS is 438 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 13: why I say THAT i think ai has lived up. 439 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 13: To the hype there's almost no corner of OUR lives 440 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 13: that ai is not having an. Impact on today and 441 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 13: that's with this, relatively you know BASIC version of ai 442 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 13: that when we look back on it, ten years ago, 443 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 13: will we'll, say you KNOW remember what AI only DID. 444 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 2: X y z. 445 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 13: This is the EARLY, days of ai and already the 446 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 13: impact on every corner of our lives might, not be 447 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 13: huge but it can be felt in almost everything that we. Touched, 448 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 13: day today. 449 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 3: Yeah it's going to be like when we talk about 450 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 3: geocity sites, OR you know, aol dial up but probably 451 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 3: even to, the more extreme given JUST how POWERFUL ai can. 452 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 3: Ai can Be in, this axios piece and we had 453 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 3: a couple of talkbacks that rolled down and that are 454 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 3: kind of along, these SAME lines so i wanted to. 455 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 4: Bring this, up. 456 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 3: They mention so you should get ahead of the transformational. 457 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 3: Times to Come this is axios writing A worst case 458 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 3: you're exponentially better versed in the most interesting technology, advances 459 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 3: in decades again justifying, why they, believe you know YOU should, 460 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 3: be ai obsessed and they talk about government, assistance at 461 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 3: scale and THIS is what i wanted. 462 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 4: To bring up and we can get to. These talkbacks too. 463 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 3: It says these technology firms are fusing, with the government 464 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 3: creating a codependent relationship growing tighter and bigger. By The 465 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 3: day president trump AND coordination with ai companies and investors 466 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 3: is helping to incentivize and ease, investment, into chips, data 467 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 3: and ENERGY the. Key ai INGREDIENTS planeteer and ai company 468 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 3: with Close ties, To trump writes axios just ink to 469 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 3: ten billion dollar CONTRACT With. The us army this is. 470 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 3: The NEW norm when i, Initially read that i'll just 471 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 3: say upfront that kind of. Made a nerve i'm not 472 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 3: going to lie a little bit relating to know just the. 473 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 3: Partnership going on but at, THE same time i also 474 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 3: understand that these types of partnerships are. Absolutely nothing new 475 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 3: this is just another partnership relating to a. New emerging 476 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 3: technology before we get to the, talk back questions do 477 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 3: you have any Thoughts on what axios had to say. 478 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 13: WITH that partnership i think there's two tracks there that are. 479 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 13: Being looped together so the second thing You, mentioned was 480 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 13: Palenteer Which is, peter thiel's firm and the ten billion 481 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 13: dollar CONTRACT With the Us. Department of defense but, that's. 482 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 13: Nothing new right palenteer has been around for. A long 483 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 13: time it's designed for defense, and intelligence purposes and it's 484 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 13: been signing. Big contracts forever, So to me i'm not 485 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 13: sure What's new about, palenteer being there other than The 486 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 13: fact that palenteer at first was much more involved in 487 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 13: kind of building out a world of link, analysis and 488 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 13: mapping and it's increasingly ATTACT in. An ai direction as. 489 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 13: One would expect for, the second one which which is, 490 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 13: the digital infrastructure it ties in with WHAT you and 491 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 13: i have talked about A lot right, ai right now it's, 492 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 13: very energy intensive, though becoming less so it's very intensive 493 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 13: in terms of use of water, for data facilities which 494 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 13: has an impact. On local COMMUNITIES and, this ai infrastructure 495 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 13: which everyone agrees is going, to be needed is something 496 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 13: that we want the government involved in, in my opinion 497 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 13: because of how It relates, to number one THE, race 498 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 13: for ai which IS Mainly a, us china race thres 499 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 13: being the two countries that have the most advanced. Artificial 500 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 13: intelligence capabilities and given THIS, race for ai it really 501 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 13: does fundamentally relate to the. US's geopolitical standing, so to 502 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 13: me that is a. Government type issue but the two 503 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 13: things are a. Little bit different the infrastructure one isn't 504 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 13: so much defense. And intelligence purposes it's a general infrastructure 505 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 13: that we need to continue to SCALE adoption of ai 506 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 13: and to do, so without, having you know, rolling energy, 507 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,719 Speaker 13: crises water crises and other problems THAT you and i 508 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 13: have discussed as things that are also emerging concurrent with THIS. 509 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 3: Boom and ai Talking With AN Experts Theory Ceo, david 510 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 3: gartzenstein ross let's Go to the iHeartRadio app talkbacks brought 511 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 3: To You by lyndahl, realty and first we'll hear from 512 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 3: a friend, Of, The show, Scott, Good morning John. 513 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 12: David and devin as somebody that grew up in the 514 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 12: seventies and then became an adult, IN the eighties i 515 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 12: did not have the technology that, they HAVE today and 516 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 12: i did Watch the first terminator Show in which skynet, 517 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 12: came To be and, i'm telling you it scares the 518 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 12: dickens out of me TO see what ai is. Doing 519 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 12: right now and it's just a matter of time before 520 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 12: somebody comes in asking. For sadah knas it. 521 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 3: Is really fastating when we in one, of these days 522 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 3: we'll have a lighthearted CONVERSATION about which ai related films have, 523 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 3: gotten it, right you. Know the best but, when you 524 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 3: do when you go back and watch those those films 525 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 3: before they get to the, more fantastical elements like the 526 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 3: lead up to, where you know all hell breaks loose 527 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 3: and the, MACHINES take, over i mean it is incredibly 528 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 3: similar to what we're looking at and dealing. WITH right 529 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 3: now i mean directly related to the conversation that we 530 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 3: were just having with military, and private, corporation. 531 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 4: You, know collaboration, Yeah, you know. 532 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 13: Look PEOPLE working on ai will acknowledge that there is 533 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 13: not insubstantial existential RISK, posed by ai meaning, that you 534 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 13: know it could. 535 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: Severely harm or threaten to. Wipe. 536 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 13: Out humanity right there's a larger risk above the EXISTENTIAL 537 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 13: risk that ai could be used. 538 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 2: To. 539 00:29:55,640 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 13: Enslave humanity right and it's interesting just how blase we 540 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 13: are about this for a. Variety of reasons, PART of 541 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 13: it i think is because of THE perception that, ai 542 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 13: has UNDERPERFORMED which again i don't think, that. 543 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 2: IT has right i think the main. 544 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 13: Thing is that nobody can figure out a way really, 545 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 13: to contain it or, to regulate it or to constrain 546 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 13: the negative impacts that. It CAN have and i think that. 547 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 13: SHOULD be, ALARMING i mean i. Don't think, terminator you 548 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 13: know there's some ways in which we can say it's, 549 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 13: a bad analog, but it also more or less is. 550 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 13: A true, Analog, what's interesting john even people who see 551 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 13: the RISKS posed by ai, as being catastrophic you HAVE 552 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 13: their own ai firms and are involved. 553 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: In That race elon musk. Is one example he ended his. 554 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 13: Friendship With, with larry page one of The, founders of 555 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 13: google over differences in terms of in THEIR. View of, 556 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 13: Ai You know elon musk was worried about the EXISTENTIAL, 557 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 13: risk Of Ai and larry page ridiculously. 558 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 2: Argued that he was being speciist, in that view and 559 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: that was kind of the end. Of their, friendship and 560 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 2: obviously Of course. 561 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 13: TODAY elon has groc and is himself INVOLVED in. The 562 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 13: ai race that shows you how difficult it, is, to 563 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 13: constrain right if you're looking at the question of how 564 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 13: do we deal with this downside and the CATASTROPHIC risk 565 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 13: of ai IS one that i don't know anybody is 566 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 13: doing serious, thought about TODAY given the ai arms RACE 567 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 13: between The, us and china given the WIDESPREAD, commercialization of 568 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 13: ai given the lack of, a regulatory framework AND, to 569 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 13: constrain ai you would really need an. International COOPERATIVE framework 570 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 13: and i don't see any of this being. In The, Cards, 571 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 13: so terminator yeah it's it's worth worth getting out your 572 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 13: old vhs. 573 00:31:58,640 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 4: And. 574 00:31:58,760 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: Watching, it yeah well. 575 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 4: Especially actually when you watch any of. 576 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 3: The videos of the the robots that, have been, created 577 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 3: you Know Whether it's Boston Dynamics or, elon musk's versions 578 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 3: it just your mind just, kind, Of goes yeah i've, 579 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 3: seen that before and and and it didn't go well 580 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 3: for it didn't go. Well for humans and there's it's 581 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 3: so fascinating, to watch it like when they're walking through 582 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 3: piles of rubble and, working around it just it looks like. 583 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 3: A human being it's, it's it's cool but also terrifying 584 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 3: at the same time and. Terrifying as well as if 585 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 3: you go back about. 586 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 13: Five years one of the, conventional wisdom points which was 587 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 13: true at the time in terms of THE limitations of 588 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 13: ai at robot technology is that robots cannot. Learn to walk, 589 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 13: five years ago they could. Not walk effectively and comparing 590 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 13: that to the videos that, you're talking about that again shows, 591 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 13: the leaps. 592 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 2: Forward the massive leaps forward that. We're constantly seeing. 593 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 3: So let's Touch Upon this tilly norwood briefly here and 594 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 3: then we'll spike in a couple of these talkbacks that 595 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 3: rolled In Talking With David Gartenstein Ross The media LABOR 596 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 3: union sag aftra has come OUT against a ai generated 597 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 3: actress being touted by its creators As The next Scarlett Johansson. 598 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 3: Or natalie portman, the synthetic performer which goes by The Name, 599 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 3: of tilly norwood was CONCOCTED by a uk, Based production. 600 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 3: Studio particle six, To Be clear tilly norwood is. Not 601 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 3: an actor it is a character generated by a computer 602 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 3: program that was trained on the work of countless professional 603 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 3: performers without. Permission or compensation According, to, sag aftra listen 604 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 3: let me let me. Jump to this i'm not exactly 605 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 3: sure unless they're just trying to get out. Ahead of 606 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 3: it i'm not exactly sure what the major concern. HERE is, 607 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 3: yet i mean it's essentially like another, form of animation 608 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 3: and it hasn't been used yet in. 609 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 4: A commercial for. 610 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 3: COMMERCIAL purposes, yet i know you get further, into the 611 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 3: piece it talks about the potential of this individual maybe 612 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 3: taking jobs from from actors or actresses if they make 613 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 3: a male. Version of this but the concern coming from, 614 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 3: Sag after here I'M not sure. I quite understand did 615 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 3: you did you get a better gauge of what they're. 616 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,399 Speaker 13: MORE concerned, about i mean they're concerned about what you put, 617 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 13: your finger on job lossing being an. Actor or actress it's. 618 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 13: At top levels it's an. Incredibly lucrative profession, and You 619 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 13: Know obviously tillie norwood is. Simply one character you can create, 620 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 13: a male version you can create. MULTIPLE female versions i 621 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 13: don't see a reason why, within you know two years, 622 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 13: we wouldn't, have you know A pretty good ai generated 623 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 13: movie that's really. Threatening to profession so if you look 624 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 13: at kind of the litany of things, they're throwing in 625 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 13: they Throw In how chilly norwood was trained on other people's, 626 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 13: acting without permission which seems a little bit ridiculous given 627 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 13: that you can just kind of watch all the movies 628 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 13: right they're. There to see they're part of our debate, 629 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 13: of cultural cachet and other actors do, trade on it 630 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 13: but they're concerned, about JOB loss and i think they're 631 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 13: right to be concerned. 632 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 3: About, job loss well wouldn't we go and sort of 633 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 3: look at this from the same way we've been looking 634 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 3: at the other issues relating? To JOB loss and I, 635 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 3: THINK for hollywood i would imagine it would be a 636 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 3: little bit More DEFINED wherein and i. AGREE with you 637 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 3: i think eventually we're going TO get, An AI movie 638 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 3: but i just imagine another genre. Film being, created you 639 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 3: know whether or not that successful among audiences remains. To 640 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 3: be seen but much like we HAVE traditional, two d 641 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 3: animation we have YOUR traditional, three d animation and then 642 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 3: you have. YOUR live ACTION i just i just envision 643 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 3: another category of THIS is an ai film or whatever 644 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 3: they decide to Land on in hollywood to describe this particular, Genre, 645 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 3: OF entertainment. 646 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 13: Yeah i mean there's a lot of different things to. 647 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 13: Talk about, here, one is obviously what unions are looking 648 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 13: to do is not really. Protect the superstars they're looking 649 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 13: to protect and increase the payment available to the vast array, 650 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 13: of their members most of whom. Are not headliners and 651 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 13: if you LOOK at where I, would use ai it 652 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 13: would really be like extras or, minor, Roles first right 653 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 13: suddenly you don't need to pay hundreds of people for. 654 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,479 Speaker 13: A crowd scene you COULD mainly use ai for. THE crowd, 655 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,479 Speaker 13: scene i mean if you look across the wide array 656 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 13: of people who, COULD be impacted i think that those 657 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 13: impacts in terms of the field of people who might 658 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,240 Speaker 13: be get money to be, in a movie it adds 659 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,959 Speaker 13: up relatively quickly when you look at the raison debt. 660 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:02,280 Speaker 2: Of a, UNION so, yeah i mean. 661 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 13: Looking at, what you SAY though obviously i agree that 662 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,919 Speaker 13: there will. Be new genres all this puts a finger 663 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 13: on a question that, we've asked before which, IS really 664 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 13: like ai raises this deeply interesting, and disturbing question which 665 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 13: is what does it mean? 666 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 2: To, be human yeah what is the value? 667 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 13: Of, being human right So that the union is Talking 668 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 13: About how chillie norway doesn't, have life experience there's no 669 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 13: real emotion behind it. And the like they're making their 670 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 13: case for what it means, to be, human you know 671 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 13: and so of. Your listeners know i'm a tournament chess 672 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 13: player at this. Point in time you know chess that 673 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 13: any chess engine can absolutely eviscerate the best chess player. 674 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 13: In the world but people are still interested in humans 675 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 13: playing chess much more than they're interested in watching computers 676 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 13: play chess. With, one another like the question of what 677 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 13: it means to be human is a. Really interesting one 678 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 13: it's a. Really important one and ultimately the fact that 679 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 13: we're asking it going back to the very first part, 680 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 13: of the show so IT means that ai really is 681 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 13: advancing in. 682 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 2: Leaps and bounds It is. 683 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 3: Not john, underperforming all right let's get one question IN 684 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 3: here For Dvd. Garten stein ross it should be, a 685 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 3: QUICK one and i think this is pretty much along 686 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 3: the lines of probably the number one question that you 687 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 3: receive just in TERMS. 688 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 4: Of, UTILIZING ai john i just wanted if You. 689 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 13: Could, ask kevin yeah if it's better to learn to 690 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 13: USE like chat gtp or, one particular model or so 691 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 13: try to learn three or four at. 692 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 2: The same time what. 693 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 4: Do YOU THINK to v. 694 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 2: I think that if you, know one model you can 695 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 2: use other. 696 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 13: Models as well there is more advantage to having a 697 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,399 Speaker 13: single model that you tend, to work, on because one 698 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 13: you can buy an upgraded, version of it like a. 699 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 13: More professional version, and number two as you work, with 700 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,399 Speaker 13: it more you can, train it better meaning that the 701 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 13: more you use, one particular model the better it will perform. 702 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 2: For You Personally. 703 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 3: Garten STEIN ROSS Is ceo At expert to THEORY and. 704 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 3: Our ai, analyst as always thank you for the, time 705 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 3: THIS morning and i look forward to the next time 706 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 3: we have a. 707 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 4: Chance, To Talk. 708 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 2: Likewise john great joinning you have. 709 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 3: A great day senate again rejects the cr government stays. 710 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 4: Is Shut Down. 711 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 3: Minnesota attorney general according, To The headline keith ellison comes 712 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 3: Out swinging against trump. Administration over shutdown we'll get to 713 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 3: that coming Up Next On Twin. 714 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 11: Cities, NEWS talk well i guess all those lefty actors 715 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 11: could do what everybody else has been. 716 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,720 Speaker 4: TOLD to do i guess they could learn to code